The West is the test

And your Montreal Canadiens are flunking.


  1. longtimehabsfan says:

    What’s the cure for the Habs anemic offense?  Sit AK and put in Pyatt.

  2. subdoxastic says:

    Gomez was benched. They called it a lower body injury, but he was benched.

  3. ooder says:

    last line should read:

    Minus side? upstairs or worse Moen and Pyatt


    88 is the new 23

  4. Captain aHab says:

    Gomez playing hurt is total conjecture on your part. Maybe AK is playing hurt?

    But if whatever you try with Gomez requires waiting 20+ games for him to get it, then why not give AK 20+ games to see if he can get out of his funk? He was playing faaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaar better than Gomez at the beginning of the year and I would argue that JM may have killed the Pleks line momentum by kowtowing to Gomez’ needs. Now AK pays for the momentum loss.

  5. MathMan says:

    I have no issue with not benching Gomez. He was not actually playing much differently than he is now, but he could not buy a goal for him or his linemates. Just like AKost, his slump was the result of bad luck.

    And benching AK now is a mistake for much the same reasons as benching Gomez then would have been. They both help the team win even when not scoring, and getting out of their slump was only a matter of time and sticking with it.

  6. Hockey Socks says:

    To be fair, Gomez’s backchecking is rarely, if ever, in question. He’s almost always a defensively responsible player – which is why he earns PK time too.

  7. MathMan says:

    See, I don’t feel AK has been subpar except in the last game, and I don’t particularly trust JM’s judgement of him (last year’s “he must shoot more” episode when AK led the team in shots was a pretty telling start).

    So benching AK for a guy who gives off the appearance of hard work but isn’t as effective sends the wrong message — the message that you care more about your messages than about winning. I can’t imagine the team is too pleased with that decision, and I am not sure last year gave Martin a whole lot of credibility to play with (in fact I suspect his players were already getting exasperated).

    And one more thing: Martin did not coach the team to the ECF. That he happened to be behind the bench when the team got there was, not coincidence, but less than that: the team got there in spite of him, on the back of a very hot shooting streak, unbelievable goaltending, and a big load of luck. All that despite a genuinely atrocious play style that meant the Habs gave up ridiculous numbers of high-quality chances and got much fewer in return. The team’s overall level of play in the playoffs was outright appalling, and they realistically had no business getting past 5 games against a team that dominated them to the extent the Caps did. Martin’s brilliant coaching involved crossing his finger and hope Halak stood on his head.

    If the team played this season like they did in the playoffs, they would be in the cellar now. They were that bad. Thankfully, they empathically did not, something I had been crediting Martin for. I’m starting to revise that opinion now however.

  8. punkster says:

    Haha if only it were that easy, eh?


  9. Captain aHab says:

    The early season Gomez point system:

    Get to the rink: earn 1500 points

    Get to the rink on time: earn 2000 points

    Miss the net with a shot: deduct 10 points from your wingers

    Don’t backcheck: deduct 10 points from the d-men

  10. nick says:

    Couldn’t agree with you more.

    If you want consistent players, you need consistent coaching. Making an example by benching one, and letting another get away with bloody murder for 2 months isn’t quite what I call consistent.

  11. Captain aHab says:

    Score one goal and earn a point


    Miss the net and lose 563 points and eat hot dogs in the rafters.


    This is what the scoring system is like now.

  12. Captain aHab says:

    That’s great and all but if it works for AK, why was it not applied to Gomez when he was sucking badly for 20+ games and not trying hard at all?

  13. Chuck says:

    Coaching 101: you CAN NOT treat all players the same. You have to figure out how to push their buttons, and treat the player accordingly. With some players a closed-door session with the coach will do the trick. With others it takes a benching to get their attention.

    Plus, it would appear as though Gomez was playing hurt. My guess is that Martin “benched” Gomez by forcing him to take a couple of games off to rest. He wasn’t getting the job done, so he didn’t play.

    The 2010 Montreal Canadians Christmas Card

  14. SPATS says:

    So easy to fix AK. This is a step in the right direction, however, he should be rewarded and punished based on his performance like a business owner is rewarded or punished for performance and decision making. At this point, we can’t reward or punish him financially, however, being a contract year, we can punish him by making his ice time and pairings equal financial gains or losses. Hire a f*****g translator to make it simple for him.

    Hit somebody, earn a point

    Cause a turnover, earn a point

    Wrister on goal earn a point

    Score with said wrister 3 bonus points

    Create a turnover, lose 2 points

    Get your pocket picked lose 2 points

    Add em up and reward / punish accordingly

    Make transgressions hurt more and get his attention. Explain to him that he controls his destiny and everybody’s watching

    Finish on the plus side? Next game with Pleks

    Minus side? Moen and Pyatt or worse upstairs



  15. MathMan says:

    The problem is that if you’re benching a player who’s been playing pretty well (but been unlukcy), and in doing so really hurt your team’s chances just before a game they really need to win, it sends a different message to both the player and the team: the message that you don’t particularly care about fairness or winning, and care more about sending your messages than about the two points. And if the team feels your message doesn’t need to be sent, you lose credibility.

    And given the mess the team was last year, I’m not sure Martin built enough credibility last year to start making harmful decisions to pass dubious messages.

    But when you don’t coach to win and instead coach to send messages, that’s the risk you take.

  16. Natrous says:

    I don’t think Nagy is Hungarian, pretty sure he’s Latvian or Slovakian.. if only there was a way to find out for sure..

  17. Chuck says:

    Here’s why benching a player that you want more consistency from (AK46, for example) is the right move:


    What does EVERY player in the league want? More ice time during the game. So if you want to send a message to AK, then you have to take away his ice time. Nothing else will work. Bag skating him between games? It might drill it into his head that you’re upset with his performance, but it won’t work as an individual punishment because you’re not denying him of the one thing that he really wants: to play. 

    As long as he still gets his ice time, nothing will change. Ever watch the program Intervention? It’s about getting junkies to kick their habit by taking away the one thing that they really need: an environment that allows them to continue their habit.

    You can send AK–or any player, for that matter–all of the messages you want before, after and in between games, but it’ll continue to fall on deaf ears if in the end he gets his ice time, and doesn’t have to face the consequences for his play. 

    The 2010 Montreal Canadians Christmas Card

  18. SeriousFan09 says:

    I sometimes wonder if his medication doesn’t throw him off, seems to display such great skills in one stretch than the next, all his timing has disappeared. Unfortunate but it might be possible.


    – I shall always remember Captain Koivu. Habs and Hockey.

  19. Shiloh says:

    Yeah – he has such great skills, but it’s always like he’s on the verge. I wonder if his medical issues are some of the cause. He was being touted as a consensus top-3 pick until they discovered the epilepsy.

  20. SeriousFan09 says:

    In 06-07 he sat yes, but he had 15, 16 minutes time per game over those two seasons and Guimauve tended to be in the 12-13 minute range. He also had a lot more PP time compared to Gui.

    This is a long time to wait for Andrei to emerge as a consistent player for the team, he was drafted in 2003 it is time he delivered consistency.

    – I shall always remember Captain Koivu. Habs and Hockey.

  21. SeriousFan09 says:

    We didn’t call Guillaume LaTenderness for no reason… No motivation to go to the front of the net and he had no passion on the ice. A lazy self-entitled child who blamed everyone but himself when he was traded. His physical prescence was never useful when he was here.


    – I shall always remember Captain Koivu. Habs and Hockey.

  22. Shiloh says:

    Perimeter? AK has hit more people harder than Billy the Slug ever dreamed of. I actually admire LaSlowesse – he’s gonna make an NHL pension on zero talent.

  23. Shiloh says:

    ? right back at you. TOI per game. But how many games? Lets think back to when AK would get called up and basically sit – not sure the year(s). Yet a slow, less talented, less committed LaSlugesse gets the hero’s welcome. AK46 has hit more opponents harder that LaGluesse has ever dreamed of – and he’s faster, a better checker, a better shooter, a better scorer, a better passer…

    It’s OK to sit him – but I’d hate to see him buried. It’s worse for Weber who is getting close to being buried – and all he did to earn it was play the best hockey of his career.

  24. G-Man says:

    Shiloh likes perimeter AK and still hates Latendresse from afar. I knew we’d miss his physical presence but go ahead and keep AK, who is turning into the next enigma.

  25. G-Man says:

    AK playing to get traded?

    He hasn’t improved in what now, 4 or 5 seasons?

    Great shot, but after that, what?

  26. Chuck says:

    Hungarian-Irish? If you cook, I’d bet that your stew is delicious!

    The 2010 Montreal Canadians Christmas Card

  27. avatar_58 says:

    When the coach changes you can’t really blame him for the past coach’s issues.

  28. SeriousFan09 says:


    Kostitsyn led Latendresse in TOI per game by several minutes during the 07-08, 08-09 seasons.


    – I shall always remember Captain Koivu. Habs and Hockey.

  29. nick says:

    Here are some stats on the CH, and their game winning goal leaders.

    Gionta 4.

    Halpern 3.

    Kostitsyn, Plekanec, Cammy, Pouliot all tied with 2.

    He’s also tied for the best +/- on the team with a +9… Pouliot is a little lower down, +2.

  30. Shiloh says:

    Nothing new for AK46. He rode the pine often while LaUseless got three years of steady shifts while sucking mightily. I think he hasn’t played as well lately – but even his down games were a huge improvement from the swoons of the past. Hope Martin has it figured out – Weber could use another game.

  31. Captain aHab says:

    Have we seen the last of Brett Favre? The guy has had a great career but I hope so.

  32. Captain aHab says:

    Look at our top two lines. Here’s Martin’s thinking perhaps:

    I have a bigger guy with some skill and good work ethic (Eller and MaxPax) to dig the puck off of the boards and pass it to a smaller playmaker (Pleks, Gomez) who can then feed it to a scorer (Cammy and Gio). Could this be Count Chocula’s thinking?

  33. Former Jets Fan says:

    I’d always thought of Hungary as an Olympic canoe powerhouse.

  34. Captain aHab says:

    I agree with you that Martin should have let the lines be but if he’s going to tinker and if the tinkering leads to Eller playing well on a top-two line, what I wrote above is what I would like to see tried.

  35. the Maritimer says:

    The Saulniers? No way! Jonathan Huberdeau is way better than either of those two. If you want the double kill get Tomas Jurco as well.

  36. Mike Boone says:

    Ooh, you’re skating on thin ice, my friend.

  37. Lafrich says:

    Mike putzface…HAHAHAHAHAHAHA…funnniest frickin thing you have ever written. Man I love your humour Boone!

  38. SeriousFan09 says:


    Sneak Preview of the Draft Day remarks if that happened.


    – I shall always remember Captain Koivu. Habs and Hockey.

  39. mbplekfan says:

    Martin is about sending messages not winning. That’s why Darche plays in the final minutes of a one goal game. Thats why Pouliot gets benched for a few bad shifts. That’s why AK sits tonight.

    Benching your best players allows your pluggers to play more and score less. Carbo worked this strategy perfectly and now counsels JM to do it from the safety of the TV studio.

  40. MathMan says:

    Martin has the horses to build sensible, stable lines now that he has MaxPac. Eller is perfectly fine in his 3-4 C spot, slowly learning to handle tougher minutes. This needless scrambling of the lines and pointless benching of AKost is entirely on him and I fully expect it to backfire.

  41. Bill says:

    I wonder if there is any way PG could pull a Burke and swing a deal to get two early first round picks together and draft Alex and Allain Saulnier out of the Moncton Wildcats? It’d be worth a steep, steep price.

    Full Breezer 4 Life

  42. MathMan says:

    Mired in a 1-4 slump that your team can’t afford to see continue?

    Why not bench one of the team’s too-few legitimate top-six wingers, neuter the fourth-line by moving the center who carries it usually into a role he’s not ready for (and play him out of position while you’re at it), send a dubious message that’s more likely to hurt morale than help, all against a Western team that may not be as strong as its record but is nonetheless on a roll.

    Yeah. I’m suddenly very pessimistic about this road trip.

  43. JD_ says:

    Hungarian-Irish, myself. Inherited my contempt for a whole host of things from both sides.

    Hungary’s claim to sports fame, outside of a lengthy dry spell in the 80s and 90s, has long been water polo, which is sort of like summer pond hockey.

  44. habs001 says:

    ak46 rarely scores a clutch goal ..he and pouliot cannot  be relied on in tight games or overtime..martin realizes if our line up gives up 3 goals or more we will not win…he rather have non goal scorers in the line up as they make less mistakes in tight games…

  45. Chorske says:

    Holy kamoli! This is the hockey post equivalent of the movie 2012.

  46. Chorske says:

    Hungarian hockey players are like unicorns.

    Really, how many of them are there? I can think of Nagy. That’s it. It’s pretty pathetic.

    I am half Czech, half Hungarian. Unfortunately, I inherited my love of hockey from the Czech side, but my actual hockey playing talent from the Hungarian side.

  47. Captain aHab says:

    If Eller pans out on the wing and Pax keeps playing well, here’s what I’d like to see the Habs try:

    Bring up Desharnais and play him with AK and Pouliot on a third line. Have Halpern pivot a fourth line with whoever else Moen, Laps, Darche, etc….tell Desharnais that his meal ticket to stay in the NHL is to get two inconsistent performers to perform consistently….then give all four lines some pretty good ice time so everyone stays healthy and try it for a few games…

    If it pans out, you get three good lines and a very good checking line. If it doesn’t, you go back to using the Random Line Generator. ;-D

  48. JD_ says:

    Have the Stars’ roster right in front of me and don’t see a Mike Putzface.

    Anyone know if he’s a call-up from one of Dallas’ minor league affiliates? Just curious about his stats and, on a side note, his genealogy. Based on the spellin’, I’m guessin’ Germanic-Hungarian roots, probably pronounced poots-fa-che.

  49. phillyhab says:

    I see your point.  Just seems like scapegoating when Picard could just as easily be benched for the same game-breaking gaffes — plus that would let Weber play, who never gave a reason not to be iced.

  50. notbigbird says:

    “Big D – home to the most obnoxious franchise in the National Football

    I thought the Steelers were in Pittsburgh?! 😉

  51. Habhopeful says:

    subbans playoffs, was a small sample size, after an 82 regular season, you start to see the warts from every player no matter how good they are, and when it comes to the point of costing the team games more than once, somethings gotta be done, prices adversity last year was great for him, whatever downturns subban suffers from early in his career, will be better for him in the future, that’s a fact, we are here to win and if it means benching your possible future superstar, so be it, it will be better for him, and if he is ruined, then we never had a superstar to begin with

    “I went to see a fight the other night…And A hockey game broke out!”

    ~Rodney Dangerfield~

  52. Captain aHab says:

    I’m willing to bet that AK was sulking after being replaced by Eller…

  53. phillyhab says:

    I agree.  He’s not going to get his confidence back squeezing his stick, playing tense, tentatively, wondering if this shift is going to be the one that gets him benched.

  54. Arrow77 says:

    Dumb, dumb move.

    First of all, Kostitsyn doesn’t strike me as the kind of person that will react well to humiliation. He’s more likely to react like his brother and play worse and worse until he’s kicked out of town.

    Secondly, Martin has treated players so differently that he has to feel the punishment is unfair. He was dominating at the beginning of the season when Gomez couldn’t do anything well – now, he has a few rough games and he’s already benched. This double standard can’t sit well with players.

  55. Habhopeful says:

    If subban is ruined after a couple
    of benchings, he isn’t as good as we initially thought, to thive in the NHL you need a strong mentality, subban has that, but if you say he’s ruined, obvi he isn’t as strong mentally and that’ll prevent subban from becoming a premier NHL player,
    don’t be such a drama queen swingking,

    let me ask you this,

    would you rather see subban make mistake after mistake where it costs us games and sends us out of the playoffs? Or would you rather this team make the playoffs and be a contender for the cup? If you choose the former, you have no clue what it means to be a TEAM…this s coming from a huge PK fan

    “I went to see a fight the other night…And A hockey game broke out!”

    ~Rodney Dangerfield~

  56. nick says:

    Totally agree about AK.

    My memory isn’t so great but didn’t a guy by the name of Gomez go quite awhile without any? I don’t recall him sitting too much, they just kept sticking him with better wingers and breaking up lines that were successfull.

    It’s f. irritating to watch.

  57. Kingofswing74 says:

    oh yeah im totally overreacting, i know. more out of fear than anything…i mean, subban is a superstar in the making, and its hard to see him being develloped so haphazardly. martin is acting as if he hasn’t seen subban play good defense before. I remember last years playoff against pittsburgh, when subban was playing over 20 minutes a game of solid defensive minutes and creative offesnive minutes. we could have that on a daily basis is martins pace maker could handle a few rookie mistakes.

  58. Captain aHab says:

    Well that’s interesting…is Pouliot playing?

  59. SeriousFan09 says:

    Overreact: Verb, ‘to react or respond more strongly than is necessary or appropriate.”


    – I shall always remember Captain Koivu. Habs and Hockey.

  60. Kingofswing74 says:

    that would be insanity, scratching a top 6 forward whose been having a good season against one of the best offensive teams in the league? where did you hear that?

  61. phillyhab says:

    I think that was Mike Putzface

  62. MikeMcLaren says:

    That would be:

    “Mike Putzface”


  63. Hockey Socks says:

    AK46 a healthy scratch tonight.

  64. likehoy says:

    subban – gorges

    gill – weber


    – Gomez is holding down the suck button

  65. Kingofswing74 says:

    if p.k. sits tonight, and doesn’t recover, i will never forgive jacques martin. he will always be the inpatient jerk who costed us our best young player in 20 years. end of story.

  66. likehoy says:

    @boone, no mention of fan favourite mike ribeiro?

    – Gomez is holding down the suck button

  67. howtathor says:

    The media chatter today seems to indicate that Subban is sitting again tonight. Bah humbug! 

  68. JD_ says:

    I do.

    I crave stew and make it all the time, never the same way twice.

  69. longtimehabsfan says:

    Stat of the day:

    Tampa Bay is 19-10-4 and is -5 in goal differential.

  70. cautiousoptimist says:

    I haven’t lost faith in Martin yet — he’s done a lot more good than bad in his stay here so far, I think — but here are a couple of things I’d really like to see tonight:

    Partner Subban with a vet: a solid stay-at-home guy like like Gorges or Gill.  Someone needs to hang back while P.K. razzle-dazzles.  Put P.K. in a position to be the kind of player he is: a guy who pinches, dekes, makes great plays, and as a result occasionally gives the puck away.

    Weber in the lineup: Sit Picard, who hasn’t been great lately, and bring some offense to a blueline that has almost none.  Partner Weber with a vet too — whichever one of Gorges and Gill that Subban isn’t paired with.  It’s painfully obvious that Gill’s, Spacek’s, Hamrlik’s, Gorges’s and Picard’s point shots aren’t going to give any opposing goalies night terrors, and with his huge wind-up, Subban’s shots are foreseen and blocked more often than not.  Weber’s got maybe the best slapshot on the team — let the kid use it.

    Lay off AK46: Kostitsyn hasn’t scored in a while, sure. But he’s got 21 points in 32 games — really not that bad.  Even with his mini slump, he’s on pace for 52 points this season, and his career high is 53.  He’s not an 80-point guy and probably never will be, so let’s stop punishing him for being what he’s always been: a streaky winger with size who”s good for 20-25 goals a year.  His salary’s about right for that level of production, and only the most wildly optimistic fans cast him as a superstar, so let’s judge him by his numbers and not his ability to meet fans’ unrealistic expectations.

    Stop the damn line juggling: The top two lines are solid and should be set in stone for at least a few games, unless someone really goes into a tailspin.  Let Eller centre Pouliot, instead of playing him on the wing, and give him another winger with decent hands: Lapierre, say, or even Desharnais, who’s tearing up the AHL and leads that league in assists.  Let Moen play the plugger role he’s so good at with Halpern and Lapierre/Darche/Pyatt, and leave well enough alone.

    Play the bloody third line: It’s a good third line.  Give it some ice time.

    Stop sending messages in the last two minutes of the game: Wanna punish AK46 for a lousy game?  Fine: bag-skate him at practice.  But when it matters, in an actual hockey game, you play the best players you’ve got, and like it or not, Kostitsyn is one of our best.  In the last minute of a game you’re losing, sending a message by giving his spot on the ice to Darche is just plain dumb.  Which player is more likely to win the game for you?


    Mike Boone: “With Gainey at my side, I’d walk into any dark alley in the world.”

  71. Chuck says:

    They’re in a 1-4 slump, in which Kostitsyn has delivered way below what we’re used to seeing from him. He’s been a non-factor, so by sitting him in favour of a player who, albeit less-skilled, works his ass off and does what the coach tells him, does indeed send a message about winning. Specifically, the kind of effort that’s needed to win hockey games.

    If a player hasn’t been playing up to the coach’s standards for the first 59 minutes, what makes you think that his effort is suddenly going to chance in the last 60 seconds?

    Martin coached a team that didn’t know each other on day one of training camp to the ECF last year. I’m pretty sure that in that span he built up some credibility.

    The 2010 Montreal Canadians Christmas Card

  72. 24 Cups says:

    Speaking about trouble, attendance is down in the heart of Texas.  Fans are being offered a ‘holiday hat-trick’ package of two tickets for each of three upcoming games.  The games include Detroit, Chicago and the Rangers.  Total cost for the six seats is $129 or $180 for a location upgrade.  Sweet.

  73. HugeHabsFan says:

    Wow.  That’s unbelievable.  What I wouldn’t give to be able to buy Habs tickets at that price! 


    “Thank you Cammy for making my day even more amazing!”


    Cammalleri: “I almost feel bad for a guy who plays an NHL career without experiencing what it’s like to be a Montreal Canadien”.

  74. HardHabits says:

    No worries. Canadians will pay for those seats. Meanwhile the Stars will tank for a few seasons and pick up a few top flight draft picks with which to build a championship team. Then all the fans will flock back. No need for the Habs to win a championship. Their stands are always full.

  75. sidhu says:

    The “flu”, eh?  Does Dallas have that big of a club scene?  Or did Denver?

  76. Timo says:

    What a bunch of BS. There is no pride on the ice tonight.

  77. hablifting says:

    That’s brilliant Picard, start messing with Morrow with your hands down around your waist.

  78. Lafrich says:

    Boone: I beg of you. Please do not write a “quick hits” or an “about last night”.

  79. ctony says:

    Picard’s last official act as a Hab.

  80. gmd says:

    Wow Morrow is tough.  Taking a swing at a guy while wearing a full face mask.

  81. sidhu says:

    Dear Don Cherry, where’s the honor in Morrow throwing a punch, with the glove on, at a player when he can’t fight because of his full face-shield?  Total wuss move in my view.

  82. Barts says:

    Morrow, real tough guy with the plastic on.

  83. Habnofear says:

    Stars are one big ,wicked good team! And our Habs need alot of work!

  84. HNS says:

    I like Morrow’s cheap shot with that plastic toilet around his head. Picard needs to crack that thing open to let the candy fall out.

  85. gmd says:

    Hw won’t as he’ll be using the time to make pancakes to toss on the ice for the next game.

  86. Timo says:

    I would give dallas an edge. 

  87. PeterD says:

    Time to make some moves Pierre G.

  88. HNS says:

    they were good cause we sucked so bad. don’t fool yourself

  89. Bill says:

    Hmm, did anyone play well??

    JM is looking like a genius for benching AK though. That really sent a message/tightened things up.

    Full Breezer 4 Life

  90. Timo says:

    So, who was stopping him? I thought he has a stick in his hands… sounds like it would have been a good thing to use.

  91. MathMan says:

    On some level I wish I could say Martin’s mistake with AK just blew up in his face. But that’s just not what happened.

    Oh, sure, it hurt the team. But AK wouldn’t have made the difference. The reality is that it was just a classic blowout. One team gets a lot of goals on not very many chances, the game goes out of control, and before you know it it’s garbage time. The goalie has a bad night, bounces or just not in it. Or whatever.

    These games happen during a season and they’re completely meaningless. They are not the result of a genuine differential in quality of play. Montreal could just as easily blow out Carolina next game. 

    Shot attempts tonight: 72-38. For Montreal. And the shot chart in is worth a look. It’s not like Dallas controlled the play all the time. It’s a normal tendancy to think that the team that is a lot behind in the score got pasted in all phases of the game, but hockey rarely works that way.

    These games are hard on morale though. Now is not the time for JM to make another boneheaded panic move. Good lines, good match-ups, stability, this is what will pull the Habs out of the hole. His ham-fisted approach will only make things worse.

    But a game like this? A lot of things will get written about it, many of them pretty silly. But there’s no conclusions whatsoever to draw from a game like this one, except that “stuff happens”.

  92. HNS says:

    All I saw was Picard go down fast. Think the refs jumped in there to leave that Piniata intact.

  93. larisalapointe says:

    People, it’s time to let Halak go. He is 12-10-4 with most of those wins coming in October. Yes this game was a stinker, but blaming the goalie is so excruciatingly boring. Didn’t losing Patrick Roy teach us anything?

  94. larisalapointe says:

    They are 1st in the West dumbass.

  95. HNS says:

    I hope Mr. Softie doesn’t show up

  96. habs001 says:

    pouliot has played okay overall this year but i believe if we want more than 15-17 goals a year he is not the player…he is at best a career teens goal scorer…i still believe so is maxpac…ak46 may score goals in the twenties but because they are not spread out and come in bunches his value is not that of a 20-25 goal scorer…we also have a streaky camm and gion…gomez looks like will be a 10 goals scorer and the rest of the line up will struggle to hit 8-10 goals…we have minimum goal scoring from the d and they give very little offensive support for our forwards….

  97. HardHabits says:

    I am having a hot rum toddy:

    2 ounces of rum (you can use whiskey, preferably scotch, or brandy too)


    lemon juice

    a dash of ground cinnamon, ginger and cloves

    boiling hot water

    all together in a magic bullet and voila!!!!

  98. Malreg says:

    Ah, well it’s nice to have some eblow room on the bandwagon now!

  99. habs_1993 says:

    I don’t see Kostitsyn sitting next game…….as well as Pyatt played. we need offence

  100. larisalapointe says:

    Tell that to your wife.

  101. joeybarrie says:

    Are you calling me an Imbecile?

    That Gomez comment sure qualifies.  I’ll let you off the hook, were you misquoted or being sarcastic?


    You know considering Gomez made most of the passes and his line had 14 shots on net Plus the shots taken on our PP, I dont think some people are really watching the game. 3 Times AT LEAST Gomez took the puck into their zone and set up for a great shot. If we hit the net AT ALL we got a HUGE chance at a goal. You could easily see all the room in the net from the opportunities.

  102. HNS says:

    oh yea, they didn’t suck, moron 

  103. larisalapointe says:

    haha, I’ll go to bed when I want to.


  104. Habbu says:

    Thanks for the tip, but I am having scotch right out of the bottle. What a Christmas I’m having so far. We need Whiskers to save Christmas cause the Habs just aint doin’it for me.

  105. Timo says:

    Oh FFS… on Off the Record they are discussing “what happened to Carey Price”. Freaking morons – the rest of the team happened to him. JM happened to him. That’s what effing happened. Terrible defense and even worse offense happened to him. Lack of size and and balls happened to him. 

  106. larisalapointe says:

    I already said it was a stinker in another post. And that’s Ms. Moron to you please. :)

  107. Vid says:

    seeing commenters with their babies as their avatars arguing childlishy and calling each other names is ironic.

  108. Timo says:

    Our great coach coming up on RDS. I’d stay and listen but… I think I pretty much know what it will be. So good night folks. Good times as always.

  109. olematelot says:

    great post!!! thanks

  110. HardHabits says:

    Martin needs to stop dicking around.





    Play these lines. Platoon the D. Give Auld more games then he’s getting. Play simple stupid hockey. The playoffs are still a long way away and it’s best to be fresh for them. Hot toddy’s in my brain already.

  111. HNS says:

    How do you think you got here, son

  112. Timo says:

    I hear AK got a new high brick breaker score on his BB tonight. Does that qualify?

  113. HardHabits says:

    This is so lucid that even in my inebriated state I am reading this loud and clear.

  114. HNS says:

    Drop the gloves, bitch

  115. larisalapointe says:

    Pool boy

  116. larisalapointe says:

    Milk man?

  117. ProHabs says:

    Gomez, go back to number 91 please. By the way, that was one heck of a nice pass Gomer made to Richards to send him in on a breakaway.

  118. showey47 says:

    no,it was me.The purolator guy,lol.

  119. HNS says:

    I’m not the one under that moose 

  120. larisalapointe says:

    No thanks, this is the last time I reply to you.

    And ignore my posts from now on.

  121. keepthefaith says:

    Here is a sneak peek at Boones quick hits for tonight.

    Game sucked.

  122. keepthefaith says:

    I agree. Those are our best lines by far. Put them together and leave it alone for a bit and see what happens. How hard is that to comprehend?


  123. HardHabits says:

    Happy Holidays!!!!

  124. larisalapointe says:

    Thanks for making me laugh too showy.

  125. Beaco says:

    MathMan For The Win.

  126. StevieRay says:

    That’s his claim to fame .. a great passer , setup man ….

  127. smiler2729 says:

    I’ve never liked the Stars. Two reasons: they’re in Dallas and I HATE the Cowboys and they stole a cool Minnesota hockey team. Throw in Mike “The Weasel” Ribeiro and it’s a trifecta of detestitude.

    Ugly uniforms and logo too. Move ’em to Canada!

  128. MikeMcLaren says:

    The big, bad Flyers lost 5-0 to the Florida Panthers last night.

    Any given night.


  129. arcosenate says:

    The only good thing that’s come out of Dallas is an empty bus.  Oswald acted alone, just like Markov when they paired him with Komisarek. Get ready for the Steve Ott show, who’s going to take care of business with him tonight?

  130. cautiousoptimist says:

    Remember when a Hamilton kid took exception to a big Ott hit on Koivu, and pounded the guy despite the fact that Ott’s broken hand kept him from fighting back? :)

    1. – not a hockey site, but still kinda neat
    2. Mike Boone: “With Gainey at my side, I’d walk into any dark alley in the world.”
  131. DearyLeary says:

    I’m expecting a good bounceback tonight.  Some bad luck against the Avalanche, but they didn’t play a bad game.  They’ll come into Dallas hungry and well rested.

  132. phillyhab says:

    Alex Henry?  crazy good PK after the instigator and we got the momentum back — that was a great great game!  Carbo’s last W, think it was his last game too.

  133. cautiousoptimist says:

    Yeah!  zThat was a great game!  And it says something about Ott that no Stars jumped in to help a teammate with a broken hand who was geting pummelled. : )

    1. – not a hockey site, but still kinda neat
    2. Mike Boone: “With Gainey at my side, I’d walk into any dark alley in the world.”
  134. ooder says:

    try Greg Stewart..


    88 is the new 23

  135. SeriousFan09 says:

    Of the 5 Cup Champions since the lockout, only DET hasn’t needed MTL to foot the bill for some of their seasons, how sad is that?


    – I shall always remember Captain Koivu. Habs and Hockey.

  136. Chuck says:

    And if the empty seats continue to show up at Joe Louis, even that could change.

    The 2010 Montreal Canadians Christmas Card

  137. longtimehabsfan says:

    News flash: The Habs aren’t winning the Cup.

  138. joeybarrie says:

    If the Habs listened to what people thought they would not have made the playoffs last season. The wouldn’t be sitting 3rd and keeping up with teams like Washington, and Boston. Who were supposed to be the best in the East this season…. They said the same thing last season, and Cammi tied a playoff record. Keep up the talk, this team continues to prove that (thankfully) the Pros know more than the fans…

    There may be other teams, but only ONE Club De Hockey…

  139. Born in a Bad Year says:

    Someone was saying that AK46 for Bieksa would be a big win… I think for Vancouver.

    Look at how we hurt Washington by trading O’Byrne.

    O’Byrne goes to Colorado, we get a prospect.

    They get an upgrade to Hannan, who they sent to Washington straight up for Fleischmann.

    Flieschmann lights it up for Colorado, Washington starts to tank.

    Take out the middle and you have O’Byrne for Fleischmann. Fair trade? 

  140. mbplekfan says:

    You put AK on the wing with the Sundins and it looks like a checkstop with all the flashing red lights. Bad trade for us.

  141. Da Hema says:

    Uh, Boone: I think you have a typo above.

    It’s Mike Pukeface.


    An important announcement from the Government of Canada:

    Health Canada is reminding Canadians that consumption of the Toronto Maple Leafs has led to vomiting, fever, bloody diarrhea, dementia, and penile dysfunction.

  142. Man Dingga says:

    AK needs to be playing with Cammy and Pleks.  That line was fantastic to start the season.  Same with the PHD line, although I like the Gomer, Gionta and Pouiiot line too.  Martin needs to stop shifting these lines around and its messing with the chemistry.  Bring Weber back while your at, the kid played great.  Sit Picard for the love of god!

  143. 24 Cups says:

    Man, there seems to be a lot of cryin’ and bitchin’ going on today.  The H I/O family could sure use some tissues right about now.  I thought of posting a few thoughts but decided to pour a Rusty Nail instead.

    Just sittin’ down in front of the fire with Faith, my golden, waiting for the game to start.

    Come to think of it, my avatar is finally back in season.  Great time of year to count all our blessings.


  144. Ian Cobb says:

    Rusty nail, always a favourite.

  145. punkster says:

    And Steve, when it comes to the Habs, blessing number one is that they have so far outperformed many of our expectations…2003 draft picks excepted.


  146. _Habsoloutly_ says:

    I just poured a glass of Stella and am getting ready to watch the game with my dog to. He likes to sit on the bed and watch me watch the game.  lol

  147. Ian Cobb says:

    Happy Holidays to all our HIO family.!

    From Andree and Ian!!

    click here

  148. B says:

    They are only 2 points out of 8th. If not for the questionable practice of placing division leaders 1, 2 and 3 then they would be in 7th in the East right now.

  149. B says:

    Montreal last season was 8th with 88 points, 33 points out of first (121 points). The season before that they were 8th with 93 points, 23 points out of first (116 points).

  150. Harani says:

    From the National Post: “Kellogg Canada is aware of some recent waffle activity at Toronto Maple Leaf hockey games,” he said. “We are not clear on the origin of this new tradition or its meaning and find it hard to believe that consumers would throw away the opportunity to enjoy delicious wholesome Eggo waffles.”

    Read more:


  151. Rugger says:

    I’m sure they are throwing the grocery store generic waffles.

  152. duffy says:

    Costco has reported sales of there giant packages of WAFFLES have gone up significantly in the TORONTO area.

  153. Danno says:

    Wasting a wholesome Eggo® waffle on a team so awful should be unlawful.


    “Hey Richard, two minutes for looking so good!”

  154. CHsam says:

    HAH !!! If I was going to throw one, I’d butter it UP and soak it with Aunt Jemima’s finest…. and, maybe a little something special. Your choice.

  155. Captain aHab says:

    Brian The Truculent has EGGO on his face.

  156. Captain aHab says:

    When they buy the Laffs, Rogers Media will rename the rink Kellogg Arena.

  157. HardHabits says:

    Hey Boston. Leggo my draft pick.

  158. Danno says:

    Indeed. But will Leaf fans Eggo Mike Leggo?

    Or will they leggo Mike Leggo?


    “Hey Richard, two minutes for looking so good!”

  159. CHsam says:

    You and 1 other person Likes this ==b

  160. petrov14 says:

    Ha! Love it!

    ______________________________________ Long live Captain Gionta.

  161. Danno says:

    Who will be the brilliant entrepreneur to produce and sell millions of Nerf® waffles?


    “Hey Richard, two minutes for looking so good!”

  162. CHsam says:

    Harold Ballard. Stays in the family, baby.

  163. Danno says:

    Giggity giggity!


    “Hey Richard, two minutes for looking so good!”

  164. WestHab says:

    9pm start = 7pm here. This may be the first game I don’t pvr. Gonna miss not racing through ads. Pvr ing games may have saved my marriage since most of the games are during “our” diner time and “we” insist on breaking bread without the TV on.

    – Who will be at the Heritage Classic?

  165. Rad says:

    I have a hunch that AK46 is going to be traded very soon, perhaps to Vancouver for Bieksa. Both expiring contracts, about the same amount, so it would work capwise. This might be why Kostitsyn is not playing tonight. Just a hunch, but it seems logical. The Bieksa to Montreal talk has been going on for weeks.

  166. scrowe21 says:

    that would be an unbelievably bad trade. AK is a top 6 forward who is still a RFA. Bieksa we don’t even need, and would be a UFA. Our D solution is simple..split up Hammer and Spacek. Put Hammer – Subban , Gill Gorges, Spacek – Weber.

    Spacek goes back to the side he likes to play, and we deal with Subban and Weber mistakes and let them develop.

    If they trade Kostitsyn, it better be in a package deal to get a top 6 forward to fill the whole he would leave.

  167. yukonhab says:

    Hey WestHab!

    6pm start in the West!


    Can you say pvr?






    Support your local indian – Price 31

  168. Hockey Socks says:

    I don’t know how I feel about AK46 for Bieksa, but I really do think that the solution to the defense isn’t that simple. We need a puck-moving defenseman in his prime (like Markov). Subban has shown that he’s not ready to be THE man just yet. Best available guy is Kaberle, but I don’t envision him coming to Montreal this year.

  169. Rad says:

    Might be able to pick up Kaberle for nothing in the Summer. He’s a good friend of Plekanec, who will probably try to sell him on the virtues of playing in Montreal.

  170. scrowe21 says:

    I dont think they do. They just need to start burying their chances offensively…its not like they’re not getting them..and its not like they’re letting in a ton of goals against either. ( Yes I know Price has been great ) but the D isn’t THAT bad.


  171. MathMan says:

    “We were giving up 50 shots, or even more, but they were mostly from the outside,” Spacek said. “That’s where Jaro, and now Price, will have success. We know he can make that stop. We have to make sure there are no second and third chances. We keep the shooters on the perimeter.”

    I’m sure Spacek actually believes that. Unfortunately, last year, this was factually untrue — as casual glances to some shot charts can attest. Montreal was a defensive disaster last year. It’s an easy myth to debunk, because the evidence is right there, and I wish people who should know better would stop propagating it.

    But ultimately the problem with the system last year wasn’t how they defended, it was that they did entirely too much of it. Without a controlling offensive game, any defensive system is doomed to failure via overtaxing. And last year, the team badly overcommitted to defense — which, ironically, made them one of the worst defensive clubs in hockey.

  172. Miltie01 says:

    Why am I suddenly worried now that Maguire is all over Leblanc at the Juniors like a fat kid on a doughnut ?

    Is it just me, or does this bother anyone else ? Maybe it’s just me…….LOL

  173. habs001 says:

    ak46 and pouliot are probably 50 point players that is not bad but they need to be upgraded for better producers but to get those players is very difficult as we are talking about 75-80 point guys…to get that type of players it can only be done by free agency,high draft pick, a salary dump or a player who will be ufa next year…these scenarios dont happen very often…this year we have to realize that our best chance is to win 2-1 and 3-2 games as we will not scare any team with our goal scoring abilities…

  174. Captain aHab says:

    Here’s the Cooke hit on Yandle….I wish the league would finally decide to come down hard on buffoons like Cooke.

  175. MathMan says:

    One-goal games

    Stars lead the league at 14-2-3. Canadiens are 6-4-2.

    This is a red flag for Dallas and a good sign for Montreal. One-goal games are heavily luck-driven; they are not the result of strong defense, grit, clutchness, or what have you. At the least, they show that a team operates with very little margin for error, and any little slump can get that one-goal record careening the other way. Eventually, this catches up to you — as some Montreal teams of the past can attest.

    Good teams routinely win games decisively, and rarely lose them decisively as well. Montreal is 13-8 in games decided by two goals or more (12-6 when discounting empty-netters), whereas Dallas is 6-8 in such circumstances (6-6 without empty-netters). Montreal certainly has the advantadge here and this is a better barometer of team strength than one-goal record.

    But, of course, Dallas plays in the tougher conference, and Montreal insists, insists in hamstringing itself with inane lineup decisions. So I’m not optimistic.

  176. yukonhab says:

    sorry wrong time zone!!Support your local indian – Price 31

  177. PeterD says:

    I like that trade, especially if we can sign Bieksa to an extention right away.

  178. Just A Guy says:

    From behind, with an intent to injure. Hell, Yandle looked like he had almost dodged the entire hit when Cooke’s elbow went up. Just disgusting, if he can’t stop himself then the league has to.

  179. keepthefaith says:

    The rumors have been that Montreal and Vancouver have been talkin trade forever. Maybe its not Bieska . Maybe Christain Ehrhoff? He is more like a Markov type . It doesnt have to be AK for a D straight up either. Ehrhoff and Canucks are not close on a contract and he is UFA at the end of the year.

  180. PeterD says:

    With all the nashing of teeth, hand wringing and coach bashing the past day or so..if we win tonight all will be forgiven and JM will be allowed to drive the CH bus back to the hotel tonight…

    Go Habs…

  181. darcy1 says:

    how does a guy with that reputation get away with a 2 min boarding penalty?

    How much you want to bet that the league does nothing because the ref called it boarding?

  182. 24 Cups says:

    My wife has me watching What Not To Wear before the Hab game starts. 


  183. Propwash says:

    JM isn’t going to get fired for something as trivial as benching AK. Half of everyone here wanted him on the sidelines not too long ago.

  184. PeterD says:

    Now there is a “cockroach”…oh sorry probably a clean hit to Milbury and Cherry


  185. darcy1 says:

    Not sure if this has been talked about yet, but Elliotte Friedman’s column on had some tim-bits [puns are fun! :-)] about the habs… such as this:

    21. Tampa — a rumoured destination for Nabokov — called up Cedrick Desjardins on Monday. Desjardins asked for a trade from Montreal because the Canadiens gave their backup job to Alex Auld this season. Let’s see if he gets some work.

  186. RiverviewCanadien says:

    Seriously, what is with this incessant piss and moaning about The Martin Era.

    Do any of you REALLY think you know this team? You feel that YOU know best? Seriously?

    COME ON!

    Martin and his staff know what to do with these players (for crying out loud they still lead the division and will get of this slump), and the rest of the organization has done all the right moves thus far (under the new regime). Jacques doesn’t ruin anyone, and when they have no need for a player,  a trade is made to a team that will play them.

    Class, all the way from the top down.

    I know I am going to enjoy watching Eller on that top line tonight, gotta good feeling about that kid.


  187. darcy1 says:

    go sit on the can for 30 mins! :)

  188. PeterD says:

    What not to wear?…that would be a Leafs jeresy

  189. RiverviewCanadien says:

    Shut Up!

    Been there…just get a drink.

  190. joeybarrie says:

    You can come to my house, where my wife is watching Jerseylicious before the game…………

    There may be other teams, but only ONE Club De Hockey…

  191. StevieRay says:

    Seriously …get a grip man …. I’m watching the World Juniors,,….

    For better or for worse …eh ??   says it all. Hopefully you’ll be rewarded with a win !

  192. StevieRay says:

    good one !

  193. Bill says:

    If we all didn’t secretly think we knew best, we wouldn’t bother preaching :)

    Seriously though, Riverview, it’s an opinion board. If you took away all the opinions … what would be the point?

    Full Breezer 4 Life

  194. says:

    IS this guy really 6’?

    Watching him in preseason, I thought he was smaller.

    Future looks bright.

    They Call Me Shane

  195. Born in a Bad Year says:

    I have seen a picture of him in a compromising picture with a goat…

  196. JIMVINNY says:

    Pierre is such an idiot.  Ref makes a terrible call on a headcheck (which clearly hits Howden in the shoulder, but his head snaps around), and Pierre starts talking about the swede leaving his feet, which he never did.  What a moron.

  197. HardHabits says:

    These are opinions? Are you telling me that we don’t have to post facts? I was for certain that everybody had statistical evidence to back up their statements. It’s hard to believe that people are just surmising.

    Wait a second. Don’t tell me Santa Claus is make believe too. Bill. Say it aint so!!!!

  198. Mark C says:

    Cedrick Desjardins, that’s the cat that the entire “management sucks” contingent said was traded because he was going to be too much competition for Price, right?

  199. PeterD says:

    Canadiens site and Bullodgs have him llisted at 5′ 11”

  200. scrowe21 says:

    Lol yeah that was dumb. Leblanc getting no powerplay time. Haven’t seen him much tonight. Landeskog looks good.

  201. RiverviewCanadien says:

    I understand it is an “opinion board”, but really, this fan base on here is so Jekyll and Hyde…if it ain’t one thing, it’s another.

    Just sit back and stop over analyzing everything.

  202. Sheldon says:

    This will be a massive test for The System! I hope they gel tonight!

  203. JIMVINNY says:

    Yeah, the Leblanc with no PP time is rather questionable, because the PP has looked poor so far against Sweden.  And Leblanc might be the best playmaker on the team.

  204. Propwash says:

    Glen Beck has nazi tourettes, HIO has fire Martin tourettes.

  205. MNaslund26 says:

    looking for a live feed for the game tonight… anyone? preferably with RDS and not the american announcers..

  206. HabFab says:

    Who is this Dustin Boyd playing for Hamilton? 5 goals in 4 games!

    Wonder if he will make SeriousFans prospect list next week?

  207. Habhopeful says:

    Effin finally!


    “I went to see a fight the other night…And A hockey game broke out!” ~Rodney Dangerfield~

  208. Chorske says:

    I love my girl. Jessica is a HGTV fan- so I get to watch walls get knocked down. DIY Disasters is friggin hilarious.

  209. MICP says:

    I blame the referees for our poor draft picks.  They forced us to take poor players.

  210. Malreg says:

    Ugh! Tim Peel again?

  211. Habnofear says:

    What does that say about Desharnais!

  212. Chorske says:

    The worst is watching him, sitting in the box, shaking his head, thinking, why me? Wha? What did I do?

    I don’t get the logic of a guy like Mike Richards bitching about PK chirping, and talking about how something is going to happen…. and yet no one will take a stick to COoke and break that fecker’s teeth. Because he has it coming.

  213. Sheldon says:

    Goods seats still available for tonight’s game!

  214. sidhu says:

    Great sightlines for this game — I like where the cameras are set up

  215. andrewberkshire says:

    Great job by Pouliot to draw that penalty.

  216. Chorske says:

    Subban with another ten minute windup on a slapshot that doesn’t make it past the faceoff circle.

    The wrister from the point is underrated, Subbie. AND more accurate.

  217. Chorske says:

    Agree- the cameras feel closer.

  218. scrowe21 says:

    I believe hes been playing with Maxwell’s line. But Desharnais on the powerplay

  219. joeybarrie says:

    OH MAN, Gio had an opening in the top corner. Great pass by Gomez

    There may be other teams, but only ONE Club De Hockey…

  220. Chorske says:

    Someone score soon. It’s almost bedtime.

  221. Chorske says:

    Not what I had in mind

  222. JIMVINNY says:

    Nice one, jacka$$.

  223. JIMVINNY says:

    WTF was that?

  224. joeybarrie says:

    WOW, What the F was that

    There may be other teams, but only ONE Club De Hockey…

  225. andrewberkshire says:

    High stick. No review? That was clearly a high stick.

  226. joeybarrie says:

    Nope, good goal.

    There may be other teams, but only ONE Club De Hockey…

  227. Chuck Chuck Goose says:

    Looked like it was just under

  228. punkster says:

    Not really.


  229. sidhu says:

    Cammy, weak backcheck

  230. JIMVINNY says:

    Unfortunately, that is par for the course.

  231. punkster says:

    AK would have stopped that. Damn you JM!


  232. JIMVINNY says:

    LOL. I would hope not…

  233. Chorske says:

    Serves me right for being such a pussy.

  234. MathMan says:

    Hmm, maybe replacing Kostitsyn with Eller against the league’s 4th-best record wasn’t so hot an idea?


  235. sidhu says:

    Off the glove, right?  C’mon, Tarana….

  236. John Cobb JR says:

    Directed it in with his glove NO GOAL PLEASE

  237. habsfaninboston says:

    Looks like he punched it in.

  238. habguy says:

    another softie from Price.

    Price is  allowing a softie every game now.

    where’s Halak when we need him.

  239. shootdapuck says:

    Subban is the modern day Jacques Laperierre

    Huge windup and the safest place to be when he shoots is in front of the net!



    “The three stars as selected by Red Fisher of the Montreal Star:
    1st star: Henri Richard
    2nd Star: Doug Harvey
    3rd Star: Jacques Plante

    Final score Detroit Red Wings 5 Montreal Canadiens 3″

  240. Keith says:

    Where’s the intensity?

  241. JVF says:

    PFFFT! Where’s #13 when you need him?

  242. Shiloh says:

    The only possible factor which could negate it is if it went in off his glove – but it’s good.

  243. JF says:

    I guess the game’s over.  We never win when we don’t score first…. nowadays we don’t win even when we do score first….

  244. joeybarrie says:

    Sitting on the bench while his team beats Atlanta.

    There may be other teams, but only ONE Club De Hockey…

  245. andrewberkshire says:

    I’m calling a shutout tonight. Offense looks anemic.

  246. andrewberkshire says:


  247. John Cobb JR says:

    My fingers have more intensity right now then the Canadiens

  248. Shiloh says:

    Cammalleri has played as poorly as AK46 – and Weber at some point deserves a start over Picard.

  249. shootdapuck says:

    It was deflected by the forward crashing the net.

    No chance whatsoever on that one!

    Softies are on the increase though.



    “The three stars as selected by Red Fisher of the Montreal Star:
    1st star: Henri Richard
    2nd Star: Doug Harvey
    3rd Star: Jacques Plante

    Final score Detroit Red Wings 5 Montreal Canadiens 3″

  250. punkster says:

    Whoa there. Let them get a period or two in before passing judgement. We’ve generated a couple of good chances already but our D looks awefully slow again.


  251. Chuck Chuck Goose says:

    The same Cammy who’s on a 7-game point streak?

  252. Propwash says:

    That was not a softie. As much as you wish it was.

  253. scrowe21 says:

    Gio should have 2 goals now. Bench him.

  254. punkster says:



  255. JIMVINNY says:

    Troll, troll, troll, your boat…

  256. Shiloh says:

    Gomez gets the puck in the clear after the faceoff and makes a nice little soft pass to the Dallas defenseman at the point.

  257. zozotheclown says:

    Late game, west coast, scored on early…

    Looks like we’re heading that way

  258. HabFanSince72 says:

    And 5 goals in 7 games.


  259. joeybarrie says:

    Even worse is he has lost his last 3 starts and only has 2 wins in his last 10 games…

    There may be other teams, but only ONE Club De Hockey…

  260. Chuck Chuck Goose says:

    REALLY want the Habs to get the 2 points to take advantage with the Flyers and Bruins stinking it up last night

  261. scrowe21 says:

    defensively, away from the puck.. Cammalleri is pretty bad..

  262. Shiloh says:

    Yep – that’s him.

  263. Chorske says:

    Habs playing with fire, we’ve gotten away with a couple d-zone hooks.

  264. John Cobb JR says:

    Ellers hustling I’ll give him that..

  265. olematelot says:

    yup, 7 game point streak, gotta be better than that

  266. JIMVINNY says:

    He may not be pointless in the offensive zone, but he sure is pointless in the d-zone.

  267. joeybarrie says:

    The same Gomez who has had 3 passes turn into shots at the net so far this game???? I say AT the net, cause we couldn’t hit the net. His last one on the PP was great and gave Gio a great chance.

    There may be other teams, but only ONE Club De Hockey…

  268. andrewberkshire says:

    Just looks like one of those nights, you throw everything at the net and everything bounces to a Dallas defender. We’re getting beat to every puck in every zone.

  269. Chuck Chuck Goose says:

    unlike AK, at least he’s putting points on the board

  270. Lafrich says:

    I am in total agreement. Unless they score, then I take it back…

  271. Barts says:

    Ya you do actually, you gotta be good away from the puck as well.

  272. sidhu says:

    I was in the Bell Centre when they announced the Riberio for Niinimaa trade on the big screen.. during a preseason game against the Senators. 

    Seemed to be a good deal at the time… haha

  273. Chorske says:

    If there has been one guy this year who can’t be blamed for losses, it’s Carey.

    You need to change your tune. It’s boring.

  274. Keith says:

    PK goin for the ole round-house right!

  275. Chuck Chuck Goose says:


  276. zozotheclown says:

    Subban having some balance issues in that fight, could have been a good one too, he looked into it.

  277. joeybarrie says:

    Subban needs to work on his balance…. But he got the only good hits in there. Should be an extra instigating penalty

    There may be other teams, but only ONE Club De Hockey…

  278. andrewberkshire says:

    How long before you get banned again?

  279. Chuck Chuck Goose says:

    The tip changed the direction, tough save for any goalie

  280. andrewberkshire says:

    Looked high on the initial play.

  281. punkster says:

    He’ll be gone before Xmas I’ll bet.


  282. JIMVINNY says:

    Well, if he could stay on his feet, he might actually be able to land a punch.  Good on Sutherby for letting him get back up.

  283. Barts says:

    A little bit of the code there from Sutherby, he could’ve hurt him.

  284. sidhu says:

    Subban trying the Avery style of fighting — going right after him instead of waiting… Sutherby was more like a bull fighter there

  285. scrowe21 says:

    PK swinging for the fences. that was terrible.

  286. Barts says:

    Jesus, what a waste, and so embarrassing as well. Keep your gloves on P.K.

  287. Habnofear says:

    Habs need a kid line to shake things up  Max Pax- Desharnais – Eller .Put AK back on  1st  line  and get us a fighter…..

  288. Shiloh says:

    They could have called a slash on Dallas before the fight.

  289. JIMVINNY says:

    I’m rather shocked we’re getting some calls tonight.  Maybe Molson finally had some words with Monsieur Campbell.

  290. Graves says:

    Good on Sutherby for not pounding on him when he fell. That fight’s kind of a microcosm for the Canadiens’ play lately…sloppy.

  291. Chorske says:

    Darche gets a 10, 10, and 9.5 for that one.

    Definitely not being picked on by the refs tonight.

  292. Chuck Chuck Goose says:

    Hope the rest of the team responds to PK’s throwdown

    I sense a big period coming for Max Pac and the energy guys, think they’ll get at least one on the board in the 2nd

  293. joeybarrie says:

    These guys better wake up.

    There may be other teams, but only ONE Club De Hockey…

  294. zozotheclown says:

    Friggen shorties, lookin like that kinda night tonight…

  295. sidhu says:

    Weber, please

  296. andrewberkshire says:

    So glad Martin is willing to piss two points away to ‘teach a lesson’. Pathetic.

  297. Danno says:

    Goodnight Irene


    “Hey Richard, two minutes for looking so good!”

  298. Graves says:

    Speaking of sloppy…ugh.

  299. Keith says:

    FFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFF!!!!!! I don’t believe this S**T!

  300. Shiloh says:

    Price – stop one friggin’ breakaway! He is an absolute fish for a soft one along the ice.

  301. twilighthours says:

    Pathetic call. Ref waits for Darche to look at him. Awful.

    Almost as bad as that shorty.

    Go to bed, folks. This one’s over

  302. Chuck Chuck Goose says:

    Argh…..the blow is SLIGHTLY lessened by the fact Benn is on my fantasy team, but I’d rather it hadn’t happened…..

    still see that big 2nd period coming though :-)

  303. Barts says:

    Markov??? Who needs Markov?

  304. habfab14120 says:

    Yuck!, but wow did e make our D look like they were sanding still.

  305. Born in a Bad Year says:

    Can we please get rid of Picard forever? How about now?

  306. JIMVINNY says:

    So Benn goes 5-hole, this time Price gets the stick down, but it just rides up the stick and in.  These are definitely starting to look like the bad-luck goals that have plagued Price for the last couple of seasons.


  307. andrewberkshire says:

    Why is Picard still in the lineup? Absolute garbage the last 10+ games.

  308. Chorske says:

    NO bounces!

    It’s like that line from the Mummy: this place… is cursed.

  309. joeybarrie says:

    Not a good first period at all so far. Pretty ugly stuff from us.

    There may be other teams, but only ONE Club De Hockey…

  310. MathMan says:

    Pretty much.

    It was a coach’s game and we’re starting to see our answer.

  311. andrewberkshire says:

    Yup to both points.

  312. Chorske says:

    Hey, I just yelled at Habs in the Blood for saying the same thing.

  313. JVF says:

    How embarrassing…

  314. shootdapuck says:

    Good Night Irene!

    Perfect time for teaching lessons!

    Hey RobertL is this a December swoon?


    “The three stars as selected by Red Fisher of the Montreal Star:
    1st star: Henri Richard
    2nd Star: Doug Harvey
    3rd Star: Jacques Plante

    Final score Detroit Red Wings 5 Montreal Canadiens 3″

  315. habs001 says:

    gorges and picard on the pp to other team in the nhl has 2 worst pp point men than these 2

  316. joeybarrie says:

    NOPE. Your dead wrong. These goals plague EVERY GOALIE in the League. The difference is people don’t see them when your team cames back to help and scores a few… Thats been our problem in front of Carey in these games. Same with Halak VS Philly….

    There may be other teams, but only ONE Club De Hockey…

  317. habguy says:

    it’s not bad luck.

    Price stinks.

  318. Habnofear says:

    Ah,some here thought he was better than OBryne;)

  319. Shiloh says:

    Because Weber played too well. One more great game by Weber and JM would have been forced to play him ahead of Picard. Solution? Sit Weber for a couple of weeks until he’s good and cold while Picard shows us all why he’s a career 7-8 defenseman on his 5th team.

  320. punkster says:

    How does AK stop that one?


  321. Chorske says:

    He is pretty bad lately. His play at the beginning of the season was one of the reasons the Habs figured O’Byrne was expendable. That trade isn’t looking that great these past few games.

  322. Shiloh says:

    I hoped it would never happen – but Price has not been as sharp the past couple of games. He is very bad on breakaways.

  323. hockeydoc says:

    as usual you don’t know what you are talking about

  324. andrewberkshire says:

    I still have no problem with the trade, because the fact is we have a much better player than Picard sitting in the pressbox for no reason. If the 3rd D pairing is going to be insanely risky, might as well put two offensive studs there with Weber and Subban, instead of Subban trying to do everything himself while Picard makes stupid mistake after stupid mistake.

  325. olematelot says:

    nope, you’re pathetic

  326. Chorske says:

    Have to admit, it does not seem fair that Weber was sat. I don’t get it either.

  327. scrowe21 says:

    and then PK returns the favour by punching him while he’s down…that was dumb. Cherry will be ALL over that.

  328. showey47 says:

    So if martin is willing to put 6 forwards on the ice when our goalie is pulled,then why won’t he put a forward on the point for the PP instead of gorges? Picard also should have put yanked for weber weeks ago.

  329. shootdapuck says:

    Does not compute!

    Does not compute!

    Does not compute!

    Systeme error!





    “The three stars as selected by Red Fisher of the Montreal Star:
    1st star: Henri Richard
    2nd Star: Doug Harvey
    3rd Star: Jacques Plante

    Final score Detroit Red Wings 5 Montreal Canadiens 3″

  330. sidhu says:

    Gotta say the honeymoon is over for Picard and PK.  As much as I like both and want both to succeed, they are wearing thin on me

  331. Chuck Chuck Goose says:

    Boyd has goals in 4 straight, that’s encouraging

  332. John Cobb JR says:

    Gomez take the puck to the net please

  333. joeybarrie says:

    NOW were talking. Keep this up, and we can come from behind…..

    There may be other teams, but only ONE Club De Hockey…

  334. sidhu says:

    Check the grassy knoll for the second shooter and the Habs’ skating legs

  335. habs001 says:

    this game right looks like the habs can play 20 periods and may not score a goal…


  336. Sheldon says:

    Looks like another tough night for The System!

  337. JIMVINNY says:

    I think we went down 2-0 to the Stars in the Carbo-being-fired game, but won 3-2.

  338. scrowe21 says:

    Wow…That was a great glove.

  339. sidhu says:

    Picard nails Richards, nice…. Still, Weber > Picard

  340. Chorske says:

    Positives: Pacioretty playing well.

    Uh. And. er.

  341. JIMVINNY says:

    Lehtonen is robbing Patches blind.  This is ridiculous.

  342. joeybarrie says:

    Good end to the period. but thats about it. If we keep this up, we can pull it off. MaxPac wants it and he wants to stay on that line…

    There may be other teams, but only ONE Club De Hockey…

  343. Barts says:

    I’d love to sign the Habs up for eHarmony… so they can meet the BROADSIDE OF A BARN!!!!!! There are NO natural scorers on this team. So frustrating. We haven’t had one since Stephane Richer!!!! Jeesuz!!!

  344. punkster says:

    Hmmmm…looks like a good night to be a Doom and Gloomer. I may have to trade in my rose coloured glasses for a few hours.


  345. Harani says:

    It’s only 2 goals. Habs can overcome it. Go Habs! 

    “It must be love!”

  346. JVF says:

    Not impressed. At all.

  347. Wops says:

    Shit game again… Maybe we were praising JM too soon, it was all Carey…


    If Carey keeps cooling off, we’re screwed…

  348. Keith says:

    Hate to go to bed being down 2-0 but I gotta work tomorrow. Hope I dream for a win tonight. G’night.

  349. vic says:

    The genius coaches system is  working. He sure sent a message,Which player gets the blame tonite and sits

  350. andrewberkshire says:

    Team is struggling mightily to score, and JM answers this quagmire with sitting a scorer for Pyatt, keeping in turnover machine Picard, and playing the Gill/Gorges pairing with the top line so they have absolutely zero offensive support from the back end. Sometimes Martin drives me batsh!t insane. No logic to his decisions lately, at all.

  351. punkster says:

    It’s all upside. Or uphill. Or upchuck.

    Trying to lighten it up here. Need a glimmer of hope. Someone throw me a line.


  352. JVF says:

    2 goals, 7 shots. Take it easy, folks.

  353. andrewberkshire says:

    They’ve overcome a deficit after a single period a whopping ZERO times this season…

  354. Barts says:

    That goes without saying.

  355. punkster says:

    Well you have to admit he hasn’t much to work with. No big guns, no big hitters, no league leading D men. Remember, it’s the silly season and nothing matters until April. Just get us to the dance an who knows, right?


  356. usversusthem says:

    Easy to win when your goaltender’s letting in one goal a game. Harder to win games when he starts coming back to earth…

  357. Chorske says:

    Andrew has a link to a clip of Mila Kunis making sweet sweet love to Natalie Portman. I think that is about the only thing that could make up for the emotional duress caused by this western debacle.

    Just a suggestion. It worked WONDERS for me.

  358. MathMan says:

    Not much anyone can do in a scoring slump except keep trying.

    Martin, though, is taking decisions to make the problem worse, which strikes me as, well, stupid.

  359. temekuhabs says:

    What’s the plan for le deuxieme periode????

  360. sidhu says:

    1) I believe we can come back

    2) I may be too sleepy to see it happen

    Boone, how about some Four Loko to keep us awake?

  361. joeybarrie says:

    Your right…. WE ARE DUE…

    There may be other teams, but only ONE Club De Hockey…

  362. Mats Naslund says:

    I’m just gonna go ahead and start the “SIGN ALEXEI YEMELIN NOW” fanclub. I don’t wanna talk smack about the old guys – but they’re looking slow, slow, slow. Of course Gorges and Picard look bad too – but they shouldn’t be out there at all on a PP. 

    This one isn’t over – but there isn’t 1 example this year of us coming back so I’m not holding my breath.

  363. Habnofear says:

    I heard the manufacture of Rose coloured glasses is in T.O.

  364. habguy says:

    the usual December-April nose dive.

  365. HNS says:

    This team is incredible at beating itself and it looks like Mr. Softie is back too.

  366. Shiloh says:

    He’s absolutely right. Price has been awesome this season – but only very good lately.

  367. andrewberkshire says:

    I’d personally rather get to that dance in a good position, instead of the team blowing it’s energy in two opening rounds against the two best teams in the NHL like last year.

    We have plenty of big guns, as I count them we actually have 7 top 6 forwards now with the way Pouliot has played this year, trouble is JM refuses to utilize the weapons he has, sitting Weber and Kostitsyn in favour of stone hands Pyatt and piece of *** Picard.

  368. Wops says:

    A tipped goal and a breakaway are qualify as softies??

  369. BC HAB says:

    Something seems wierd about the habs. Not very impressed with this period. Can’t complain about penalties. We are getting our powerplays.  Only one that has impressed has been Max Pac. The rest of the team seems off.

  370. andrewberkshire says:

    There’s no such thing as being due. The Habs got all the calls that period and couldn’t take advantage. The offensive punch is pathetic to non-existant, and thats why they can’t ever stage a comeback.

  371. BC HAB says:

    I totally agree with you.

  372. andrewberkshire says:

    HNS is a Halak troll.

  373. coachdoug says:

    T@barnac!…Habs are in a scoring funk right now…no one can put it in the net even when they get a good chance…

    Martin is going to have to get these guys going on this road trip…Can’t ride Price every night…

    PG needs to take that Cap Space and get a no sh#t goal scorer…I know he is probably waiting until the deadline to float a bargain…

    Habs can come back and win this if they get some pucks in this period…stats are showing it’s almost impossible trailing going into the third…

    “Six more years…God Bless You Turtleneck Man!”

  374. ctony says:

    JM is the impediment not the solution.

  375. olematelot says:

    not the same Halak whose save % is 26th in the league

  376. Chorske says:

    Always seems to be the way.

  377. olematelot says:

    they qualify as softies to him because if it was him in that situation he could have made the saves with ease

  378. ctony says:

    That’s what every “troll” has been saying for weeks.  Take away the best goaltending in the game and JM is exposed as the fraud he is.  

  379. MathMan says:

    The team hasn’t needed miraculous goaltending much this year, even though it got it.

    But tonight, after the coach deliberately hamstrung the team against a top club, well, they might need it.

  380. HardHabits says:

    Suffice it to say next goal is huge.

  381. sidhu says:

    No point keeping Pricey in this.

  382. C3P1 says:

    poor price…we are officially in a slump, folks


    Avon Old Farms: 2007, 2008 & 2010 New England Division I Hockey Champions – #5

  383. Propwash says:

    FIRE JM!!!!!!!!!!!

    Sorry, sorry…… It’s the “fire JM tourettes” kicking in there….



    Goalies in Montreal have two roles, netminder and scapegoat. 

  384. Shiloh says:

    Pretty slow whistle.

  385. andrewberkshire says:

    It was over before it even began. Martin was intent on blowing this game for the purpose of “sending a message”. I’m disgusted.

  386. joeybarrie says:

    Well thats all she wrote. done deal…

    There may be other teams, but only ONE Club De Hockey…

  387. punkster says:

    What the heck was PK doing behind the net?


  388. t1tan5 says:

    Nice D coverage.

  389. MICP says:

    Game over boys.  See u thursday night as the referees screw us again.  Should be 7-0 Habs by now.

  390. ctony says:

    Oh oh.  The early season Price magic may be gone.  Check out the defeated look on his face and the earlier stick on crossbar action to understand his mindset.  

  391. JVF says:

    Carey needs a rest. And so do I.

  392. JVF says:

    We’re going DOWN!

  393. Shiloh says:

    Price was not given the benefit of a quick whistle – but he crawled around on his knees for ten seconds or so befor the goal. He dropped that habit for the first third of the season.

  394. Mr.Hazard says:

    What are we, 1-4-0 since PK came back?

  395. scrowe21 says:

    If Price starts to lose his confidence…We are f*cked.

  396. JVF says:

    3 goals, 10 shots.

  397. twilighthours says:

    Some clown named “hockeydoc” calling me out?  Check

    Habguy and other random clowns annoying me? Check

    Montreal losing with no hope of winning? Check

    The kind of night to get my account banned?  Maybe…. just maybe…..

  398. sidhu says:

    Let’s see… who to bench next?

  399. Chorske says:

    A dude I have never heard of (SKRASTINS?!) scores exactly the kind of goal that was winning us games back in October and November. Anyone remember the PHD line?

  400. Barts says:

    Lots of speed yes, but there’s no jam, no team toughness, no size, no finish, no support, and it’s just no fun to watch. Good night.

  401. ctony says:

    JM’s epitaph:

    After much line juggling and lineup changes, he finally got
    Gomez going.  At the expense of Plecs,
    AK, PK, Price and the fragile ego of a team trying to build on an improbably
    successful playoff run.



  402. hablifting says:

    Smurfs getting pounded tonight.  Cannot win a single puck battle in the corners.  The Dallas hits are causing the  Habs D and forwards to cough up the puck or make bad passes.  This teams makeup needs some adjustments.

  403. Propwash says:

    Bah, im gonna grab a shower and check on the game a little later


    Goalies in Montreal have two roles, netminder and scapegoat. 

  404. Shiloh says:

    Nice hit Max – but Benny can’t do a thing.

  405. Habnofear says:

    Love the way Lapierre tries to get it going and spark  it up!

  406. C3P1 says:

    OK – here is a serious question.  Is it time to give price a little bit of a break?  I mean, he’s started the most games in the NHL by a wide margin.  He now has not allowed fewer than 3 goals in two weeks.  he looks a bit tired. granted, he wasn’t going to have a 2 GAA and a 935 SP all season, but he just hasn’t been making that huge save lately like he was at the beginning of the year.  Not all his fault, I know but the job of a goalie is to carry a team in spots like this.  I’m as big a fan as anybody of the kid and he’s been unreal this year, best goalie in the NHL, but maybe he needs a little mental breather.  especially with this rough, rough road trip.  thoughts?


    Avon Old Farms: 2007, 2008 & 2010 New England Division I Hockey Champions – #5

  407. twilighthours says:

    Girls don’t appreciate that comment

  408. Graves says:

    At least we play the Islanders on Sunday.

  409. Matt_in_TO says:

    8th place here we come


    – In Price We Trust

  410. Mr.Hazard says:

    “Habs’ commitment to ‘D’ key to their success”

    Strange time for Basu to write a column about that!

  411. Shiloh says:

    Start Auld – can’t hurt.

  412. Mr.Hazard says:

    It’s the mid-season standings-freefall! Woohoo! What’s it been, 3 out of the last 4 years, at least?

  413. temekuhabs says:

    This road trip may not be good

  414. Shiloh says:

    A bad night all round – the kids have been waiting for the “douze pouces/cinq dollars” commercial and it hasn’t been on yet.

  415. Matt_in_TO says:

    The December one never is


    – In Price We Trust

  416. Habnofear says:

    Team sport ….give the whole team a break!  What you want to put in AULD during a loosing streak? Ha!

  417. Chorske says:

    I love the noise the guy makes in the Videotron ad when he opens the crabs book and there is a PVR inside.

    Cracks me up EVERY time.

  418. C3P1 says:

    I agree..but I don’t think JM will conceded until after christmas


    Avon Old Farms: 2007, 2008 & 2010 New England Division I Hockey Champions – #5

  419. ctony says:

    Last year we had Price and Halak.  Nice to be able to rest one and have the other start (notwithstanding Price’s W-L record).  This year we can only play Auld against bottom dwellers.

  420. punkster says:

    Not true. check the histories.


  421. Shiloh says:

    The only thing old around here is the Price-worship. He’s God when he’s great and the Son of God when he lets in a soft one.

  422. punkster says:

    Yes, because he’s just a self-centred old man with no interest in seeing his team win.

    Come on Andrew. It’s a losing streak. Some teams have them. Even good teams. These guys are playing like crap the past couple of weeks and this losing streak is on all of them, not just one man.


  423. andrewberkshire says:

    Have they been playing like crap? They outplayed Detroit, Philadelphia and Boston during those weeks you’re saying they’ve been playing like crap. They’ve been losing, but they haven’t been playing like crap. Just like Kostitsyn hasn’t been scoring, and yet he hasn’t been playing like crap. The reason we’re losing tonight has more to do with coaching than any loss so far this season, and it’s enraging me that Martin continually chooses to ice a weaker lineup to keep a career loser like Picard in the lineup, meanwhile he’ll scratch a player who’s been a better player than our captain so far this year for a turnover that wasn’t his fault. Is he wrong about everything he does? No. But stop pretending he’s infallible and flawless, Dave. He’s human like the rest of us and tonight he effed up big time.

  424. HNS says:

    Give your head a good shake there genius 

  425. andrewberkshire says:

    Thanks for the advice troll.

  426. HNS says:

    Mommy wants to know why you’re still up. Time for bed now.

  427. HNS says:

    Past your bed time now little one, nighty nite

  428. temekuhabs says:

    what a stop..

  429. coachdoug says:

    Stars are skating Habs are watching…

    “Six more years…God Bless You Turtleneck Man!”

  430. ctony says:

    Top 10 excuses for tonight’s loss on tomorrow’s HIO boards:

    10.  The game started past our bedtime

    9. The refs had it in for us

    8. Bettman and Campbell instructed the refs to screw us over

    7. Cherry and Richards upset PK Subban

    6. Picard is a journeyman

    5. Price is merely human

    4. HNIC Bostonians called us cockroaches

    3. AK46 somehow poisoned the locker room

    2. Gomez is overpaid and we couldn’t sign a quality free agent

    1. Spacek and Hamr are too old and looked slow

  431. shootdapuck says:

    And you are a moron troll!

    Back to waffle-land and enjoy!


    “The three stars as selected by Red Fisher of the Montreal Star:
    1st star: Henri Richard
    2nd Star: Doug Harvey
    3rd Star: Jacques Plante

    Final score Detroit Red Wings 5 Montreal Canadiens 3″

  432. JIMVINNY says:

    Dallas is not this good.  WTF are these guys doing in the d-zone.  That last sequence was pitiful, and if not for a fantastic save, would have been another goal.

  433. king ddd says:

    hopefully martin pulls his head out of his as* and put ak and webber in instead of picard( whom im starting to hate mor and more  and  benny! nxt game



  434. Shiloh says:

    What a pass by Spacek – tape to tape baby!

  435. Chuck Chuck Goose says:

    Dreading a Stars PP at this point

  436. Chorske says:

    Pyatt and Darche. Our offensive juggernauts

  437. joeybarrie says:

    We deserve it. Will we get it?

    There may be other teams, but only ONE Club De Hockey…

  438. Matt_in_TO says:

    it’s going to get called back


    – In Price We Trust

  439. Shiloh says:

    It won’t count.

  440. Harani says:

    Common in most losses these past few games: Habs come out flat most of the time, get behind early, are only behind by 1 goal in the thitd, outshoot and outhustle opponents in the 3rd, their goalie stands on his head and Habs lose.

    “It must be love!”

  441. HardHabits says:

    It goes off of the Dallas player.

  442. JIMVINNY says:

    That’s the kind of game you need to play to beat the Stars.  Unfortunately, neither of our top two lines can play like that.  Time to bump Pouliot back up, maybe take Cammy’s place.  Need some size up there.

  443. Mr.Hazard says:

    Didn’t touch Darche. Stars commentators are saying it looks like a kickin motion, but it didn’t even hit Darche.

  444. temekuhabs says:

    think its off Skrastins


  445. Shiloh says:

    Off the interior of his right knee – should be OK.

  446. Chorske says:

    As a guy who has worked sound for a number of shows, I want to register a protest (and maybe barf a bit) at the ridonculously huge mess of cables attached to the refs head while he reviews this goal

  447. joeybarrie says:

    WE DESERVE IT….  They couldnt PROVE it wasnt a goal…

    There may be other teams, but only ONE Club De Hockey…

  448. sidhu says:

    Plan the parade.


  449. temekuhabs says:


  450. punkster says:

    Yes. Pluggers rule. It’s a workers paradise!


  451. temekuhabs says:

    2 more ugly ones like that

  452. Shiloh says:

    Gomer – the buzz killer. He slows down so the Stars can catch up. Meanwhile, MaxPac and Gio are on a flight to nowhere.

  453. joeybarrie says:

    Could easily be 3-3…

    There may be other teams, but only ONE Club De Hockey…

  454. king ddd says:

    lmfao the dallas play by play dudes were so lost



  455. Chorske says:

    I KNEW the PHD line would get us going.

  456. Lafrich says:

    Of  course they are

  457. Jbird says:

    Dallas colour guy just called Prices last save mastedonic.  That is awesome.  He also decribed the save as fantabulous.

  458. krob1000 says:

    actually feelin the comeback …. too much bizarre crap a happenin out there.

  459. joeybarrie says:

    If MaxPac and Gio could finish tonight, we would be winning…

    There may be other teams, but only ONE Club De Hockey…

  460. Born in a Bad Year says:

    His only clear pass was to Picard, and there was no way he was going there…

  461. hablifting says:

    Dallas color guy may be one of the best in the league when it comes to filling all that BS time with things that make you go..waaaa?  In a good way 😉


  462. JVF says:

    Get. Desharnais. Up. Here. Fast.

  463. JIMVINNY says:

    Spacek nearly had a stroke there.

  464. AH says:

    WOW!, what a genius we have in JM…the team is struggling so he’ll right the ship! Bring in Pyatt, sit AK, and put Eller with Pleks and Cammi (who has also sucked big time by the way), and the result of these line up changes: ZILCH!

    Boy Pyatt and Eller are sure lighting it up aren’t they? pffft!

  465. hockeydoc says:

    no effort on the backcheck by Gomez and Price robs Dallas

  466. ctony says:

    Could easily be 6-1.

  467. sidhu says:

    Lehtonen taps Darche, thanking Darche for not showering him.. gotta love that sort of sportsmanship

  468. punkster says:

    Lay those magic hands on the TV there K-man. Believe!!!


  469. scrowe21 says:

    Who do you sit for him, Eller or Halpern?  Gomez and Pleky obviously aren’t an option

  470. HNS says:

    not his fault, he’s usually the Fox affiliate anchorman

  471. ctony says:

    A little levity — sit back, relax, and enjoy.

  472. ctony says:

    Look at that, PK with Gill – just like people have been clamouring for.

    And, PK needs a stick and not one of his TEAMMATES will give him one.

  473. JIMVINNY says:

    Nobody wanted to give PK a stick there.  He was a little, okay, a lot, upset.

  474. sidhu says:

    Subban almost looking like a baby on that one.

  475. Shiloh says:

    The entire play is in our end because PK panicked and passed it to a defenseman who was covered. He had a clear lane but made an awful play.

  476. joeybarrie says:

    We gotta score those

    There may be other teams, but only ONE Club De Hockey…

  477. Shiloh says:

    Should be a delay of game penalty for taking out his own net.

  478. HardHabits says:

    Ice Girls.

  479. JIMVINNY says:

    Laps should have shot that.  No way Pouliot hits the net, regardless of whether the puck is on his stick or not.

  480. Shiloh says:

    Eller is a centre – he’s not that great on the wing.

  481. The Teacher says:

    Wow, GREAAAT hands by Pouliot there…not

  482. Mats Naslund says:

    Picard tricked me into thinking he was alright… not cool.


  483. MathMan says:

    In their own building, the Stars have 11 shots … but three have gone in.”

    Big leads do that. Teams that are a lot ahead tend to get less shots (but they are higher quality), teams that are behind the reverse.

    It would be nice for the Habs to get one of those 3-goals-on-10-shots deals from time to time though.

  484. Matt_in_TO says:

    PK is playing his way to Hamilton


    – In Price We Trust

  485. Chorske says:

    PK gets one of these per game, minimum

  486. JIMVINNY says:

    Dumbsh*t penalty.

  487. king ddd says:

    holy SH*T was that nelson



  488. scrowe21 says:

    What the hell is wrong with PK.. that was dumb. Even Price lifted his glove like..”what were you thinking?”

  489. ctony says:


    Boone: 2P 5:01Pleks quiet lately, eh?





  490. Norm0770 says:

    That’s pretty weak.

  491. C3P1 says:

    get carey out. now.


    Avon Old Farms: 2007, 2008 & 2010 New England Division I Hockey Champions – #5

  492. JIMVINNY says:

    Gorges tipped that in.  FFS.  No good breaks tonight, ladies.

  493. punkster says:

    Now don’t anybody go telling me he should have had that one too. Lucky deflection.


  494. sidhu says:

    Put in Weber and Henry.  Sit PK and Picard.

  495. Shiloh says:

    Put Gorges in front of the net when (if) we get a pp. What hands!

  496. ctony says:

    Not at all.  It was his play for the first 30 or so games that masked all the deficiencies.

  497. king ddd says:

    night folks im going to watch wrestling




  498. JVF says:

    4 goals, 13 shots. PFFFFFT!

  499. sidhu says:

    Are we going to see Auld in the third?

  500. C3P1 says:

    dude, we get it.  you don’t think this is price’s fault.  but he has to step it up


    Avon Old Farms: 2007, 2008 & 2010 New England Division I Hockey Champions – #5

  501. joeybarrie says:

    Well I guess the Trolls and Bashers will have plenty of ammo tonight and tomorrow.

    We need to fill the hole on D. We can’t go the whole season like this.

    The only good thing about this is it shows that over time we need to fill in the hole.

    There may be other teams, but only ONE Club De Hockey…

  502. Barts says:

    Arghhh, I’m back because this is driving me nuts!!! Josh Gorges, either pay the price, or GET THE F#$% OUT OF THE WAY!!!!

  503. Chorske says:

    Amazing, we’re getting such good hockey from guys like Eller and Patches. But our normally reliable guys like Gorges and Gionta are coming out flat.

  504. ctony says:

    You would appreciate this.  I posted an analysis a few days ago that showed our W-L record this year correlated with shooting percentage.  Almost all loses have a shooting percentage under 7.5%.  Almost all wins have a shooting percentage over 9.5%.  

    3 out of 10 would be off the charts.

    We don’t finish. 


  505. JIMVINNY says:

    Do you have any clue what you are talking about?  Step up how?  Make ANOTHER impossible save on a ridiculous deflection?  He’s not the one that has to step it up.  That honor belongs to the majority of the rest of the team.

  506. ctony says:

    the word you’re looking for is “realists”.  

  507. Harani says:

    Good Night!! Even the optimist in me can’t watch anymore. And can’t stand people criticizing Price. FYI, he can’t score goals. You win if you score goals. 

    “It must be love!”

  508. Habnofear says:

    Agree and put Subban as a forward as to learn how to play in the league….He`s not ready as a Dman,not even close.

  509. andrewberkshire says:

    No, he had it right.

  510. The Teacher says:

    Get Price out of there. Not his fault so get him out for some rest.

  511. scrowe21 says:

    Lehtonen is killing them..that and Gio missing the net on a great chance..but Lehtonen absolutely robbed Pacioretty twice…and Eller now. oh..and the short handed goal..brutal.

  512. Shiloh says:

    It will never end here. Price has been praised like the Second Coming for four years – during which he has played well for about a quarter of the time. They absolutely love him here – he is a deity and there is no competing with that. Hell – the guy who saved our seasons the last two and a half years couldn’t even get the grudging title of 1st-String goalie. Nope – it’s all Carey-love all the time.

  513. punkster says:

    No he’s bang on with that comment.

    Edit: though I also believe we need a scorer more a good D has been a requirement for 3 years.


  514. ctony says:

    Does that mean finding fault with JM, pointing out a need for a top 4 Dman, or complaining about certain players sitting out a certain times suggests a troll? 

  515. MathMan says:

    Hate to say but I knew this already. Percentages are a heavily-studied area and the high correlation between winning and percentages is already well-known.

    But shooting percentage is largely dependent on goaltending and luck — and starting goaltenders are very close to one another in true puck-stopping ability these days. The only way to win consistently is to outshoot; the percentages tend to even out over time and there’s little evidence teams can affect their own shooting percentage over time in a significant manner.

    That’s why panicking in the middle of a scoring slump is silly. Eventually, these things even out. And it goes for teams as much as players. They’ll probably get a lucky run of shooting later in the year.

  516. joeybarrie says:

    Just ring a bell…

    There may be other teams, but only ONE Club De Hockey…

  517. C3P1 says:

    I am terrible at typing…honestly meant to say WE need to step it up.  It is a team game.  I have no issues with his play, but he just isnt making those saves right now.  I honestly think he’s tired. that’s all.  my mistake.


    Avon Old Farms: 2007, 2008 & 2010 New England Division I Hockey Champions – #5

  518. C3P1 says:

    shiloh im as big a carey fan as there is, im sure you know that.  he has carried our team this season, hes the reason that they are where they are, you are smart enough to know that about hockey.  I just think he needs a little mental break, hes tired.


    Avon Old Farms: 2007, 2008 & 2010 New England Division I Hockey Champions – #5

  519. punkster says:

    Stephen, zip your fly. Your nuts are showing 😉


  520. ctony says:

    Punkster – we’re all saying the same thing.  We need a finisher and another top 4 Dman .  Andrew has been railing about JM’s decisions all night.  These are the complaints of reasonable people.  Not trolls.  Don’t minimize the problems.

  521. habguy says:

    yes it’s never Price’s fault.

    so tired of people making excuses for Price.

    he’s coming back down to earth, or the real Price is emerging again.

    he’s average, no better.


  522. C3P1 says:

    halak scored on himself


    Avon Old Farms: 2007, 2008 & 2010 New England Division I Hockey Champions – #5

  523. The Teacher says:

    You just set yourself up for a reply of “at least he can score, eh” lol

  524. olematelot says:

    why are you constantly bashing Price, he’s been hung out to dry tonight, you have absolutely no credibility, none, zippo

  525. ctony says:

    Good man.  You know everything about sports stats.  I worked with a professor on a project when I was an undergrad mathguy at Waterloo a hundred years ago.

    Were you the one commenting the better team only wins in hockey 60% of the time?  If you are, I had a thought (although, you’ll probably tell me it’s already been done)… Could you test this theory by comparing actual results for (say) the past three years against results against the spread.  Do this for NHL, NFL, etc. and you would be able to make a pretty interesting story.



  526. Habnofear says:

    Not the Goosestepping troll hunt again……

  527. larisalapointe says:

    The Blues won their game tonight with Conklin in net.

    The Blues lost their game last night with Halak in net.

    If Price wasn’t playing for our team, it would be twice as bad.

    Ask the other 29 teams who they would rather have. Price or Halak.

    Nobody is taking Halak Shiloh.

  528. larisalapointe says:

    I don’t!!

  529. ctony says:

    Godwin is that you???

  530. Harani says:

    The third period will be an amazing one by the Habs but itll be too little too late.

    “It must be love!”

  531. BC HAB says:

    Im gonna be sick too.  I’m turning this shyt off.  Is it time to be worried? I don’t have a good feeling about this downward slide.

  532. MathMan says:

    I’ve been worried for a while. It was starting to look like a death spiral even before the AK fiasco and this debacle.

  533. HNS says:

    You know you’re in bad shape when a player with his head in a fish tank beats you

  534. temekuhabs says:
    Auld for the third?:

    Why not?


    Yup..I agree

  535. BeachHabFan says:

    man, i feel like this is one of those games where there is no puck luck, lots of good effort but a few brain cramps and bad bounces and whammo, yer down a bunch of goals

    big concern for me: what happened to the shot blocking that was so great in the playoffs and start of the yer? moen blew the first goal on the pk on sunday, pyatt/georges blow another one tonight, lots of standing and wincing and none of the flat-out selfless play that was making them a success.

    PK – WTF

    and how many times have we heard ‘rater le filet’ in the past 7 games? screw the PP and PK at practice, just have them shoot at those freakin showdown foam targets and build a bit of confidence

  536. MathMan says:

    I’m not looking forward to JM’s next panic move.

  537. temekuhabs says:

    so, with JM big line up “experiment” and Muller with his “tirade” and this team plays like this??? What happens now?

  538. gumper says:

    Players only meeting? Always works for the Leafs;)

  539. BJT says:

    Man, HIO has been a depressing place lately..


    Formerly known as Camel_Larry.. ‘Sub-BAM! What a hit!’
    ..”No more Looser on this teams!!” – Canadienboy

  540. AH says:

    Lost their last game 3-2, tonight 4-1 after 2 periods, 4 goals on 12 shots, SERIOUSLY, where is the leadership on this team right now????

  541. gumper says:

    Completely outmatched from the opening whistle. If this is a “measuring stick” game, we are alarmingly shorter than we thought. Turns out it’s neither length nor girth that matter…it’s depth.

  542. MathMan says:

    It’s actually pretty meaningless. A classic blowout, one team scores a lot of goals on not too many chances. It happens and generally means absolutely nothing. Montreal could play Dallas in two weeks and the situation might be entirely reversed.

    It’s interesting though because a lot will be made of Martin’s controversial decision and its impact on the game and it really didn’t matter. Obviously it’s hurting the team, natch, but AK wouldn’t have made the difference in a game like this.

  543. Jar Jar Binks says:

    weesa is never goin to score if weesa shoot from da outside all da time. da defence is runn around likein chickens with der heads cut off.

  544. olematelot says:

    out shooting them 20-12 is hardly being outmatched

  545. MathMan says: has real-time shot charts nowawdays. Have a look at tonight’s game, it’s not that Montreal hasn’t been trying to shoot from the slot.

    Dallas, however, has had no problem scoring by shooting from the outside. >.<

  546. Habnofear says:

    Lehtonen is ONE HECK OF A Goaltender!

  547. andrewberkshire says:

    Best part of the night. Literally destroyed my frown and made me burst out laughing. Thank you.

  548. hablifting says:

    Ouch Subban just ko’d himself


  549. HardHabits says:

    Concussion. My heart is getting trounced here.

    EDIT: Subban back on the ice. Phew!!!!

  550. Timo says:

    just tuned in… sounds like a great game. All these messages JM was/is passing seem to work. I think Brunet mentioned that Hammer is -2 on the night… meaning PK will be sitting in the presser next game. 

  551. vic says:

    Well it wont be Picard who will sit.So PK foks that want him benched will be happy.

  552. HNS says:

    you must have finally looked up the meanings of your comments

  553. hablifting says:

    PK just walked into someones shoulder, he prob won’t be playing for a bit.

  554. C3P1 says:

    price just needs a rest – use your noggin JM


    Avon Old Farms: 2007, 2008 & 2010 New England Division I Hockey Champions – #5

  555. Les-Habitants says:

    Gotta hit the net boys….

  556. Timo says:

    Gomez – gallop, gallop, gallop… lose the puck. Backtrack to own end, get the puck, gallop, gallop, gallop – lose the puck, go for a well deserved rest.

  557. hablifting says:

    It may be time for a couple of trades 😉

  558. Barts says:

    What I wouldn’t give to see someone hit the net…with accuracy.

  559. Chuck Chuck Goose says:

    someone should tell the Habs D the game’s not technically over yet

  560. coachdoug says:

    Habs are getting mauled…looks like a AAA midget team playing the Stars…

    We need some growth hormones and a good Steroid regime…maybe we can get a Tour de France doc to help out…A good big team is way to much for the Habs…

    “Six more years…God Bless You Turtleneck Man!”

  561. andrewberkshire says:

    Are you lost?

  562. temekuhabs says:

    you haven’t missed much, a train wreck all around Timo

  563. Timo says:

    Who can we get for our coach and GM?

  564. Habnofear says:

    NO SHIT…..:)

  565. Timo says:

    seriously… the shooting accuracy is about 0.

  566. Timo says:

    you’re saying it like were expecting any different.

  567. hablifting says:

    Yeah, thats the main issue.  almost 20 years of worthless management.  To be honest I’m suprised we’re not worse.  I have no idea why nobody has ever thought of mixing skill and toughness when building the Habs the last 17+ years.  Where’s our Brendan Morrow?  We haven’t had a guy like that since Muller.  It’s pathetic.

  568. gumper says:

    SOGs don’t always mean a lot, and in this case, it’s the only evidence you have that they were ever in this one.

  569. larisalapointe says:

    Yes he’s tired. Sick and tired of playing his ass off with no goal support, and having to be constantly compared to a so-so goalie.

  570. Barts says:

    Anemic PP… are 13 and 14 even dressed tonight???

  571. Timo says:

    that was some powerplay. Very… umm… powerful.

  572. gumper says:

    Habs would have to improve a lot over two weeks to compete against this team.

  573. Jar Jar Binks says:

    most thesa in close chances weesa from Maxie Paxie

  574. BeachHabFan says:

    markov ain’t comin back this year, and there’s no guarantees he’ll ever regain his form (or stay healthy for long even if he does). time to trde for a serious d-man and wish markie well in his future endeavors

  575. hablifting says:

    The habs problems run deeper then goaltending.  Patrick Roy would be telling fans in the first row he’d played his last game for Montreal tonight.  Enough talk about Price, he’s done just fine tonight.

  576. Timo says:

    Hey, did Mikey Ribs score on us tonight to complete the humiliation?

  577. Timo says:

    I have a full trust in PG’s ability to bring us a replacement worthy of Markov.

  578. habs001 says:

    we all should have seen that this is not a top team over 82 games…we should be happy if we make the playoffs and as proved last year anything can happen…i have mentioned many times it makes no difference where we finish in the standings as we can beat any team in the playoffs and we can be beaten by any team in the playoffs…

  579. hablifting says:

    Nope.  Another reminder of inept Habs management.  Oh yeah he was a cancer..or whatever bullshit people make up to feel better about being robbed.  Complete garbage.

  580. temekuhabs says:

    Nope the little puke hasn’t

  581. scrowe21 says:

    or a consistent goal scorer.

  582. MathMan says:

    This reminds me of one time the Rangers blew out the Habs 6-2. Everyone was making grandiloquent proclamations about how the Habs got outclassed and how the Rangers were clearly a much better team in all phases of the game.

    Two weeks later the Habs played the Rangers again and won 6-0.

    Blowouts are meaningless. Seriously, once a hockey game goes out of control the teams don’t play the same and you can’t draw any conclusions anymore. And it doesn’t help that confirmation bias makes the observer naturally think the team getting blown out must be vastly inferior. Most of the time it’s not actually the case.

    Heck, if it weren’t for the score, the 62-30 shot attempt differential would tell you whether the Habs can compete.

  583. larisalapointe says:

    Better than fine, no arguments from me there.

  584. olematelot says:

    What’s nauseating is all the so called fans bashing the team, real fans stick with the team through good and bad, it’s very obvious that there are a large number of pretenders on here, so sad

  585. gumper says:

    I see why they call you “MathMan”.

  586. hablifting says:

    Seriously?  This team isn’t that great.  I’m not going to pretend otherwise for some whining little puke like you. 

  587. ctony says:

    Julien, Carbo Demers, and Vigneault all had better records with Habs than JM since 1994.  

  588. matraque says:

    Have we started bashing JM yet??


    Canadien en 5!

    Never go Full Retard

  589. ctony says:

    Yeah, when he was hired.  The bonus question will be “how did JM’s line carousel ef up Plecs?”

  590. Timo says:

    Hah… Habs are so easy to handle even Stars players look bored.

  591. Vid says:

    I smell a 3rd period comeback new york style

  592. gumper says:

    Your olfactory glands are delusional.

  593. HNS says:

    a christmas miracle?

  594. showey47 says:

    nah, i think you just farted.

  595. Habnofear says:


  596. Bill says:

    Habs are really struggling for the first time this year. Can’t score. Getting beat on D. Price looking sort of like Price of last year, bad bounces and occasional softies.

    Every team has a few slumps during the year, so probably no point in getting bent out of shape about this one. UNLESS it’s directly tied to the loss of Markov. Or unless this actually is the best offence the forwrads can muster. Or unless Price was just having a hot streak and is now reverting to form. If any of those things turn out to be true, they are screwed big time. Oh well *nervous laugh* I’m sure there’s nothing to worry about and everything will be fine soon!

    At least we will probably get AK back in the lineup, unless JM thinks he screwed up this game from the peanut gallery. I would bet PK is out next game though.

    Full Breezer 4 Life

  597. MathMan says:

    The problem that I see is that JM is going ballistic over them and making ill-considered, boneheaded panic moves when the team probably needs more stability and to just work through it. He’s hurting more than he’s helping.

    But yes, hopefully this is a swoon and not a death spiral. Still hard to feel optimistic right now though.

  598. Propwash says:

    Well, thats all she wrote. Everyone needs to go to bed, you all are way too grouchy. Slumps happen, the team will pull out of it.



    Goalies in Montreal have two roles, netminder and scapegoat. 

  599. punkster says:

    Hmmm…what was that?


  600. Timo says:

    Queue the comeback.

  601. joeybarrie says:

    I dont care what you say. Gomez hs not had a bad game. He has been pretty good.

    There may be other teams, but only ONE Club De Hockey…

  602. ctony says:

    so that makes the opposite of troll, imbecile. 

  603. sidhu says:

    Now that is a bullet

  604. BeachHabFan says:

    i don’t get all this martin bashing. if pouliot could finish, or someobody hit the net (ahem – gionta – even to generate a rebound), or the veterans could play smart (dump it deep rather than force pucks to the blue line, a la gomez, moen, cammy), it’s a different game. same thing on sunday. he’s giving pk ice time but the kid is either a disaster or play of the week waiting to happen. the boys are skating hard and driving the net but the mental game is off and the confidence level is low. 

    and now that i finished typing that sentence gio wires one. who should i criticize next?

  605. temekuhabs says:

    What a shot

  606. sidhu says:

    Don’t know why we bothered to keep Price in this game — there’s nothing to gain from having him in.  Why not give Auld some time?

  607. Timo says:

    Uh, no. Hold off that comeback thing. Ma bad.

  608. Scott in Montreal says:


  609. scrowe21 says:

    Meh..That was a sweet goal by Gionta..problem is he gets amazing chances each game and misses them way too much. but I agree with everything you said.

  610. HNS says:

    Stars would be foolish if they don’t go out tonite and buy some lottery tickets, lucky shmucks…..

  611. Timo says:

    Gomer got an assist on Gionta’s goal. He has like what… 3 points now? 

  612. Barts says:

    I gotta say, for a coach known for his defensive system, the D zone coverage tonight has been atrocious.

  613. C3P1 says:

    I am very annoyed that JM kept price in this game.  no reason at all.


    Avon Old Farms: 2007, 2008 & 2010 New England Division I Hockey Champions – #5

  614. olematelot says:

    It’s a slump folks, every team has them, look at Washington. They’ll get through it and the love fest will begin again

  615. Chuck Chuck Goose says:

    shots by Max Pac = shots by Cammy + Pleks + Eller

  616. HNS says:

    Loui Erikson, WTF is that?

  617. aemarchand11 says:

    The need for a top 4 Dman is pretty obvious tonight..

    Go Habs Go!

  618. scrowe21 says:

    Price was definately asked if he wanted out..and you know he would say no.

  619. ctony says:

    JM should send Cunneyworth a thank you card for his reclamation work.

  620. Timo says:

    I would like to hear Mario’s opinion on that on l’Antichambre.

  621. olematelot says:

    Thank goodness that little f*&^ didn’t score

  622. HNS says:

    the McRib still blows

  623. gmd says:

    I love Josh but this is the worst I’ve seen him.  If he’s hurt sit him out.

  624. Habnofear says:

    Dude…they got Ovie..

  625. Rob Maguire says:

    Boone, do you still think you can claim that Price has not had one bad game this season? Or does this game qualify as “mediocre”, rather than “bad”?

  626. sidhu says:

    Benny has to sit the next game — Lappy had him set up for a lay-up, and he seemed disinterested.  The Pleky line could use AK46 back. 

    Weber is wasting away in the press box. Someone young should play, whether it be in the big leagues or in the A. 

  627. scrowe21 says:

    Cant believe he didn’t score..robbed big time. Hope he doesn’t get scratched next game.

  628. showey47 says:

    Gorges has been pretty bad. I don’t think i’ve ever seen him play this poor.

  629. Timo says:

    Time to pull Price.

  630. Timo says:

    Closeup shot of him on the bench showed he was in a pretty big discomfort.

  631. HNS says:

    Get out the bags for the skate tomorrow boys

  632. punkster says:

    Well, there’s two and a half hours of sleep I could have used…wasted!


  633. scrowe21 says:

    Weber better play the next game…but there is no point in sitting Benny, just sit him down, go over the tape and yell at him to get his shit together.

  634. scrowe21 says:

    “Have you watched this game? Considering one goal was not due to a deflection or D mistake!”

    Heard that every single game he played last year.. shitty luck.

  635. olematelot says:

    Did you watch the game, how can you say he had a bad game with the kind of goals that beat him

  636. olematelot says:

    With a comment like that I gotta ask, did you watch the game?

  637. Gindan69 says:

    I would qualify it as average. First goal was mid air tip, nio chance. Second one was stoppable if Price is in stgame stealing mode. 3rd goal he did his job, covered the puck, probably deserved a whistle, but even then had 5 guys in white just standing and one guy in black poking it lose and still given eneough time to tap it home. 4th goal was a tip courtesy of georges. 5th goal was a tip. So of the 5, only one was really stoppable. The D does its job, and 4 of those goals don’t happen. I’m thinking as the season wears on, a guy like Picard, despite his good numbers now, will just not be able to handle the increased intensity and speed as we get deeper. Time for webber to play and Picard to pinch hit for the old guys who will need nights off down the stretch.

  638. Rob Maguire says:

    Did you read my comment? I’m asking a question, not making a rhetorical statement. But I suppose putting words into others’ mouths and slagging critics as “pretenders” is a far more constructive use of a public forum. 

  639. Rob Maguire says:

    Thanks for the illuminating response I was looking for — much appreciated!

  640. olematelot says:

    Granted some are critics who make constructive comments, those I have no problem with, it’s the ones that constantly bash and never ever have anything positive to say. Those I label as pretenders

  641. keepthefaith says:

    Are you serious? did you watch the game or just read the stats? You think those shots are saveable? Give me a break man. The team sucked. What you want him to save the tip in front? Or how about the tip from Georges? You want him to anticipate that do ya? Or you blaming him for the shorthanded breakaway? Or the one where there is four habs standing around looking stupid and the dallas player bangs it in?


    edit: I guess i should have scrolled down before posting the same thing as everyone else. As you were.

  642. JustSomeguy says:

    Hamrlik was -3 on the night; at the end of the day, that’s worse than Gorges. Which ain’t good. FWIW, Gill only played 15 minutes with Hamrlik on for 24. With that kind of disparity along with Hamrlik having an off night, methinks something might be up with Gill.

    Anyway …

    Looking for some positives: Lapierre was 100% for faceoffs. Subban had a +/- of 0.

    And, at the end of the day, having a funk in December is better than having one in April. Or early May.

    They’ll snap out of it and quietly start climbing back up in the east. Montreal may have been punching above its weight through October and November, but no way is this a team that’s out of the playoffs come spring.

  643. Timo says:

    Now, now. We go through this every year. We have a great start, parade route is mapped, then inevitable happens – december hits the calendar. Habs show their true colors and it all comes to the last season game against the laffs to get into the playoffs. So no need to get all soggy over here. 

  644. joeybarrie says:

    Are you calling me an Imbecile?

    There may be other teams, but only ONE Club De Hockey…

  645. ctony says:

    That Gomez comment sure qualifies.  I’ll let you off the hook, were you misquoted or being sarcastic?

  646. ctony says:

    It’s hard to respect a person who can’t take a criticism and one who won’t defend his comments in the thread where they began.  Especially one who is so quick to use the dreaded “T” word on anyone who questions Hab management, play or players.  

    Did I hurt your iddy biddy little fee-wings?

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