The Madness of Coach Don

Last night’s edition of Coach’s Corner began with a cool mash-up and then continued with videos of a few fights and Cherry rambling all over the NHL landscape – but not picking on P.K., unless you see his praise of less chirping by Ryan Kesler as a veiled slam on Subban.

Cherry concluded the segment with an angry reminder that Dec. 25 celebrates the birth of Jesus Christ.

Wha???

Call me paranoid, but I think the old coot is setting himself up for a third career.

The speech at Rob Ford’s inauguration, bashing “left-wing kooks”, the use of the public airwaves to promote a particular religion …

Cherry is positioning himself for either politics (he’s too old and, frankly, too ignorant) or the more likely bet: a gig on Sun TV, the Canadian version of Fox News that Pierre Karl Péladeau wants to launch.

(Thanks to GG11 for Don the Evangelist, another brilliant PhotoShop)

 

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167 Comments

  1. hockeydoc says:

    The Crusades were launched in the name of Christ for the purpose of converting nonbelievers. That is historical fact.

  2. CHsam says:

    “If one of the many FOREIGN news casters on CBC…..”   Love it. So foreign.

  3. BJT says:

    Phenomenal post.

     

    Formerly known as Camel_Larry.. ‘Sub-BAM! What a hit!’
    ..”No more Looser on this teams!!” – Canadienboy

  4. BJT says:

    I don’t see what the issue is. If one of the many foreign news casters on CBC decided to say at some point in the year something along the lines of pointing out a Muslim holiday or the likes, we’d all say “Oh. Ok then, this person is a muslim.” But because it’s a christian holiday there’s protesting and complaining? Calling it ‘Madness’ and ‘Promoting religion’? It’s a fact. That’s what Christmas is. If you don’t like it that much then maybe you shouldn’t celebrate Christmas at all. 

     

    Formerly known as Camel_Larry.. ‘Sub-BAM! What a hit!’
    ..”No more Looser on this teams!!” – Canadienboy

  5. RockinRey says:

    i know where he stand re leafs and bruins but I have never heard him say that the habs are chicken or gutless. I have seen him show video evidence of A. Kostitsyn ( slew foots and sticking stick in opposing players legs when chasing an icing) and Pleks make a couple of dirty plays. But these guys are surely no more dirty than any other player in the league. And I have not heard him say chicken or gutless directly towards Habs players. So i dont know what you are talking about.

  6. Danno says:

    And Happy Festivus for the rest of us. I hope this doesn’t offend anyone or ruin your holiday.

     

     

    “Hey Richard, two minutes for looking so good!”

  7. Miltie01 says:

    The fact is that is the way it is set up, but not the way it happens in real life. Cherry, as far as I am concerned, should limit his conversations to hockey. I also feel he should not be chastised, he is not the only one who does it.

  8. Miltie01 says:

    Actually, it doesn’t , and I absoluitely loved that episode !!!

  9. habsgirl74 says:

    Great post and Merry Christmas

  10. RockinRey says:

    Well put. A little balance!

  11. Miltie01 says:

    Yes Boone, freedom of speech

  12. habsgirl74 says:

    well said, Cherry was not in the wrong for saying what he did, Dec. 25th as been celebrated as the birth of Jesus ever since Emporer Constantine made it that day and reminding others thats what the day is ther is nothing wrong with that , would it have been a problem if he mentioned another religions holiday, i think not

  13. Miltie01 says:

    I have seen many a broadcaster, even HNIC, wish people well at there holidays, Muslims, Jews etc.

    Neither should be done according to those who say a publicly funded, secular broadcaster should not allow this kind of thing. Cherry was talking to HIS audience, which I am sure if you check out the demographics you would find out are white anglo saxon protestants. The rest should try and do as we christians are asked to do, politely let him say what he has to say and then carry on.

  14. Miltie01 says:

    Guess what, I have read the Bible, many, many times. I suggest you actually read it, and try to understand it.

  15. RockinRey says:

    Spoken like a true Hab fan ! Well put!

  16. Miltie01 says:

    Chanukah is not celebrated on December 25 is it ? And yes, others do celebrate Christmas without any influence of Jesus. That is fine. Others celebrate their religious festivals arounf this same bunch of weeks yes. Yet they are allowed to proclaim from the highest mountains of the land that it is there festival’s time of year and are not admonished, why can’t Cherry ?

     

    Now you are freaking out about the crusades, which Jesus had nothing to do with by the way, right after you go on a tirade about wanting to have a crusade of your own in grade five.

  17. RockinRey says:

     

    I never said I was Christian or it was hard. I never said anything about my nativity scene. I said how can you be offended by it? Never said the Grinch was stealing it! Can’t privelege one religion over others? Get serious and really get a grip and think about what you just said.

    I never said that Christians pander, or any other religion pander. I said we ( as in a collective society overcompensate ) by worrying about what might be offensive to others. We collectively pander to anyone who does not agree or express a certain faith in any religion. How a nativity scene in a mall is offensive is anyones guess. Whether it be an atheist, Jew, Muslim, Sikh…. whatever. How they could be offended is mind boggling. Maybe the bigger question is what issues does that person have??

    I have an inclusive vieew of the world. I have never said my religion is more Canadian. I have said Boone has an agenda. And I have asked repeatedly how can someone be offended by someone saying Merry Christmas and reminding what the true ( official) meaning is. And I did say Christmas means different things to different people.

    Re #3 , you may want to reread that one. I didn;t express my religious views. I said how could someone get offended ? I never said I am offended that he did not agree with Don Cherry.

    If we were in a Muslim country no problem.There are Muslim Countries you know. Are you offended? There are state sponsored television stations in Muslim countries where the preponderance of the population is muslim and other religions coexist.But would any body have the nerve to speak out there and say I am offended because the imam reminded people of the prophet and they should pray 5 times a day?

    We are in Canada and for the most part the country has its roots in Christianity. Notwithstanding that there has been a shift to more secular ideas as noted in another post. There is no problem at all with saying Merry Christmas or reminding people.

     

  18. RockinRey says:

     

    I never said I was Christian or it was hard. I never said anything about my nativity scene. I said how can you be offended by it? Never said the Grinch was stealing it! Can’t privelege one religion over others? Get serious and really get a grip and think about what you just said.

    I never said that Christians pander, or any other religion pander. I said we ( as in a collective society overcompensate ) by worrying about what might be offensive to others. We collectively pander to anyone who does not agree or express a certain faith in any religion. How a nativity scene in a mall is offensive is anyones guess. Whether it be an atheist, Jew, Muslim, Sikh…. whatever. How they could be offended is mind boggling. Maybe the bigger question is what issues does that person have??

    I have an inclusive vieew of the world. I have never said my religion is more Canadian. I have said Boone has an agenda. And I have asked repeatedly how can someone be offended by someone saying Merry Christmas and reminding what the true ( official) meaning is. And I did say Christmas means different things to different people.

    Re #3 , you may want to reread that one. I didn;t express my religious views. I said how could someone get offended ? I never said I am offended that he did not agree with Don Cherry.

    If we were in a Muslim country no problem.There are Muslim Countries you know. Are you offended? There are state sponsored television stations in Muslim countries where the preponderance of the population is muslim and other religions coexist.But would any body have the nerve to speak out there and say I am offended because the imam reminded people of the prophet and they should pray 5 times a day?

    We are in Canada and for the most part the country has its roots in Christianity. Notwithstanding that there has been a shift to more secular ideas as noted in another post. There is no problem at all with saying Merry Christmas or reminding people.

     

  19. Miltie01 says:

    What exactly is the Jewish Holiday, or festival that is celebrated on Dec. 25 ? I am not aware of one, maybe Boone can answer this. Again, with the rest of your post you carry on about something you don’t understand. The fact is Don mentioned Jesus in a public forum and is being raked over the coals. That does not happen if Buhda, the Dahli Llama or most others are mentioned, because we as christians , and the rest of the country as Canadians have been taught to be respectful of other people.

  20. Miltie01 says:

    The more I read HIO the more I realize where the bigotry is. Here, where the world is big enough for all people, of all races, creeds and viewpoints………as long as they don’t disagree with me.

     

    Merry Christmas folks, the baby Jesus won’t ruin your holiday.

  21. VancouverHab says:

    Hey, Mats! You’re one of my heroes: great to hear from you. (You had a great thing going with Don Cherry back in your day — don’t turn coat on him now ;–)

  22. Miltie01 says:

    Go on talking about something you have no idea about. While I agree that coach’s corner, as well as HIO are no places to discuss religious views, it is obvious to me other views can be bandied about freely. Whether it is of other faiths, or in your case, absense of any faith. Why does Don not have the right to state his opinion, when others are allowed to……on the CBC, and HIO ?

  23. christophurrr says:

    thumbs up

  24. DearyLeary says:

    What conspiracy theory?  He’s using the CBC as a pulpit, and we’re paying him for the privilege.  Get him off the air already.  Same goes for Milbury, Cole, Healy, May… they’ve assembled a confederacy of dunces.

  25. BJT says:

    We in north america would not celebrate Dec 24th and 25th and get 2 weeks off merely because of Chanukah and the winter soltice.

     

    Formerly known as Camel_Larry.. ‘Sub-BAM! What a hit!’
    ..”No more Looser on this teams!!” – Canadienboy

  26. Mats Naslund says:

    Give me a break. Don Cherry used the fact that Bruce Boudreau DIDN’T use “the lord’s name in vain” in his swear-laden HBO rant as a chance to remind everyone that ” December 25th is the Lord Jesus Baby birthday” (his words not mine) with a finger point, and “remember the troops” in tow. Is it really that outrageous to question why on a show entitled “Coach’s Corner” ANY of that is necessary?

  27. habsruleworld says:

    the point is, you missed it completely bub!, it’s a publicly funded show, paid by taxpayers, where the platform is provided to spew BS, by be-littling in particular ” Le Club  de Hockey Canadien”

    Staff at HNIC seemed to be hired as long as they have a deep hatred for the Montrel Canadiens, that is why they refer to the Habs as cockroaches.

    That is why they regulalrly attack Lapierre, Subban etc.

    HNIC has zero credibility, they cannot bring any level of Objectiveness to anything!

    To have americans on a canadian broadcast attacking a canadian team such as the habs, and regularly! can you ever see such a scenario being repeated in the USA?!  fAck No!

    Cherry regularly depicts himself  as the true canadian? he’s an embarassment, and I want my tax dollars better spent to represent tolerance, objectivity, fairness, which is definitely not in the vocabulary of INFLAMATORY, BIASED, DIVISIVE HNIC.

     

  28. DearyLeary says:

    For someone who wanted an elected senate, Harper seems extremely insincere, as he has appointed more senators than any PM in the last 100 years.  

    I’m not going any further into politics… lets keep this about something that’s actually important, like the Montreal Canadiens.

  29. BJT says:

    Wow you’re freakin’ annoying. Any respect for you I’ve ever had is gone.

    I am being persecuted now by you telling my faith is BS, telling me I’m stupid, and saying you would eliminate christianity if you had the chance. 

    And wow, I’ve said consistently that the reason we in North America celebrate Christmas because of Christ’s birth, I never said that it’s timing is historically accurate to the birthtime of Christ, because it was never intended to be. You pulled that one out of thin air and out of your bias.

     

    Formerly known as Camel_Larry.. ‘Sub-BAM! What a hit!’
    ..”No more Looser on this teams!!” – Canadienboy

  30. habsruleworld says:

    Tommy I do think the emails and letters are taking effect. HNIC changed their format, Cherry did not say anything about Habs or their fans, HNIC is getting it, they are fighting back, although also saying Cherry is going down blazing. I hope this means he’s gone soon. To not write/email/voice our feelings would be wrong in my opinion. we must stay vocal and engaged.

  31. VancouverHab says:

    Cherry is positioning himself for either politics (he’s…frankly, too ignorant)”

    Don Cherry has been making a public affirmation of the Christian character of Christmas, to my certain knowledge, for over a decade, so the conspiracy theory here is preposterous.

    And you are actually saying that Mr. Cherry is too ignorant for Canadian politics? You are serious? The House of Commons and the Senate are bodies of governance populated in the main by the non-ignorant in your opinion? If Mr. Cherry did match your belittling characterisation of him then he would be as indistinguishable in our parliament as a black crow at a rookery.

    Cherry concluded the segment with an angry reminder that Dec. 25 celebrates the birth of Jesus Christ.

    If Canadian religious pluralism means anything, it means that individual adherents to any one religion are free to openly make affirmative statements about their chosen belief system, without threat or fear of condemnation, whatsoever their public position.

    If a public utterance in simple affirmation of one’s religion is to be condemned and marked for supression, whatever the speaker’s place is in society, then we have entered a state of intolerance and opression by secularism. Secularism is only one of the players in the multicutural game: it is not the Referee.

    Mr. Cherry mentioned, at the municipal inauguaration to which you refer, that he was the object of attack in the media for the mere fact of him attending church. That attack, which your present article reinforces, is open bigotry and is a manifestation of the very intolerance of which hypocricy is accusing Mr. Cherry.

  32. habsruleworld says:

    Some stats on NHL penalty minute allocation by referees:

    Toronto 31 gp, +66 mins on
    powerplay. Vancouver 29 gp, +13 mins on powerplay. Calgary 31 gp, +12
    mins on powerplay. Edmonton 32 gp, +8 mins on powerplay. Montreal 32 gp,
    -43 mins on powerplay. Ottawa 34 gp, -59 on powerplay, penalty shots are counted,
    10 min misconducts are excluded since there is no advantage

    Why do laughs lead league in 5 – 3 ‘s?,,,,,,things that make you go  Hmmm

    Canadian taxpayers pay so that CBC can regularly have a
    platform to  continue with divisive, biased and cheap shot attacks on
    the Montreal canadiens hockey team, and their fans

    for those that
    want to try and make a change and let those responsible know , here is the email to the head honcho at CBC, responsible.

    David.Masse@CBC.CA

     

    might not solve the issue, but at lest they will know!

  33. BJT says:

    The Bible does not support rape, that’s just stupid. It does not support pillaging.. the old testament contains many books about Christians seiging castles, lead by god. Every time it instructs not to steal or take from the city attacked. Also, It does not support murder. Ever heard of the ten commandments?

    I have read it, if not in whole, large chunks of. And I do believe it. 

    Maybe you should read some too, it’d do you some good I’m thinking.

     

    Formerly known as Camel_Larry.. ‘Sub-BAM! What a hit!’
    ..”No more Looser on this teams!!” – Canadienboy

  34. Jbird says:

    The Senate is where he will go.  His appointment is probable in my opinion after what he did for Ford and Fantino recently. And I argue that it will be Cherry’s appointment that will bring major changes to our parliamentary structure.  Seriously.

    Harper’s whole plan from his early days in Calgary has been for an Elected senate. But while the senate had a Liberal Majority the Liberals did not mind the senate being a useless institution where they put people who did the PM a favour (NDP says abolish it and I personally agree with that) and the Conservatives/ Reformers squawked away about it. Now that the Conservatives have the majority in the Senate – and are actually vetoing bills!! the Liberals will now support Harper’s original position of the elected senate or they will want to join the NDP in abolishing it. It really is a brilliant plan by Harper.  

    Cherry is likely going to get appointed into a governing body that can veto legislation in Canada if he wants the job.  Frighting!!!  And it will change our Parliamentary system cause at least 1/2 of Canadians think Ron Churley is a menace to society and the Liberals just go with the flow and all parties will want to change the Senate.

    Apologies for having to write this, I have been thinking it all month.   

  35. andrewberkshire says:

    How are you being persecuted? By someone challenging your statements of absolute fact when you’ve already admitted they were false? Yes, I did insult you, because you’re being so ridiculously inconsistent that I’ve facepalmed about 20 times reading this drivel. I really don’t care if you think I’m being a douche, the point is that you’re wrong about why this season is a holiday, and you admitted it, but now you’re saying you were right in the first place… Ridiculous.

  36. TOEmastro says:

    That’s what he said. and yes

  37. RockinRey says:

    I haven’t gotten personal with you. I haven’t attacked you. I said that Boone had an agenda and I did not see any anger from Don. So buzz off.

    First of all I agree it is the holiday season and there are other religions recognizing them. I understand quite clear what you and he are talking about . Its easy for guys like you to play a race card( i know you didn’t) or criticize someone for having a different view point. As I stated numerous times now who said he has to say Happy Quansa, happy Hanukah, and happy Ramadan because it is a public broadcaster?

    And as  i said it seems personal with Boone and Don. How the hell someone is offended by a person expressing Merry Christmas and talking about Christ and it is not about Santa is beyond me. Maybe you should look at yourself and wonder why it is you get your back up about these things so quickly.

    Not so sure Mr. Boone needs you to defend him!

  38. Mats Naslund says:

    Particularly relevant due to the xmas ranting.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EwsAruHCHHw

    Dear Coach’s Corner – Propagandhi – Winnipeg, Man.

     

    Dear Ron MacLean. Dear Coach’s Corner.
    I’m writing in order for someone to explain
    to my niece the distinction between
    these mandatory pre-game group rites of submission
    and the rallies at Nuremberg.
    Specifically the function the ritual serves
    in conjunction with what everybody knows is,
    in the end, a kid’s game.
    I’m just appealing to your sense of fair play
    when I say she’s puzzled by this incessant pressure
    for her to not defy collective will and yellow ribboned lapels,
    as the soldiers inexplicably repel down from the arena rafters.
    Which, if it not so insane,
    they’ll be grounds for screaming laughter.

    Dear Ron MacLean, I wouldn’t bother with these questions
    if I didn’t sense some spiritual connection.
    We may not be the same, but it’s not like we’re from different planets.
    We both love this game so much we can hardly fucking stand it.
    Alberta-born, and Prairie-raised.
    It seems like there ain’t a sheet of ice north of Fargo I ain’t played.
    From Penhold to the Gatinaeu, every fond memory of childhood
    that I know is somehow connected to the culture of this game.
    I just can’t let it go.

    I guess it comes down to what kind of world you want to live in.
    And if diversity is disagreement, disagreement is treason.
    Well, you’ll be surprised if we find ourselves
    reaping a strange and bitter fruit that that sad old man beside you
    keeps feeding to young minds as virtue.
    It takes a village to raise a child, but just a flag to raze the children
    till they’re nothing more than ballasts for fulfilling
    a madman’s dream of a paradise. Complexity reduced to black and white.
    How do I protect her from this cult of death?

  39. B says:

    Cherry closed by expressing the thought that Christmas is not just about presents, but is about celebrating the birth of Jesus. Of course he did it in a loud, bombastic Don Cherry like way. If you simply have a problem with the way he expresses himself, then yes, I agree that he is an over the top loudmouth. It sounded to me, however, like you had a problem that he expressed his thought about Christmas (as opposed to how he expressed it) and I just didn’t see that as one of the multitude of stupid things he has said that is worth going “Wha???” over.

    Your subsequent bring up of Iranian theocracy, official state religion and public airwaves did not reinforce to me that it was the way he said it (bombastic loudmouth) and not what he said (thought on Christmas) that you were reacting to. I certainly am not defending Cherry’s caricature.

  40. Graves says:

    Cherry’s been doing the whole “it’s baby Jesus’ birthday” shtick on the last Coach’s Corner before Christmas for years now.

  41. WestHab says:

    all in all though I think we are getting too sensitive about anti Hab this and anti Habs that. Of course cherry and mulberry bush hate the Habs. They are who they are and all this anit Hab stuff will get worse as the Habs get better and they will. This is the price of sucess.  The leafs will never get this much universal hate cause they are pitiful. Sometimes we need to be a bit like Lapps and just smile it right back to them.

    - Who will be at the Heritage Classic?

  42. Mats Naslund says:

    OK I apologise, but my BS detector is going bananas over here. Who are these

    community leaders in Toronto that are espousing Sharia law (with an agenda to supercede rights and freedoms) and  high profile business men saying Jews should only marry Jews”.

    This is the kind of drivel that people always bring up every year in defense of those who try to jump on their soapbox about how hard it is to be a Christian in this country. Its frankly a load of BS. Nobody is trying to steal Christmas away from you. We just can’t privilege one religion over the others. Your nativity scene belongs in your house, with your family – Not in a shopping mall – unless you’d also like to see religious symbols of all kinds in the mall.

    The funny thing is that you say “we pander to everyone so that this kind of thing is not perceived as offensive” – as though:

    #1: “We” are Christians, and “They” are everyone who is not.

    #2: You represent the dominant group, and “pander” to those who are not within your group. They can live in YOUR country as long as they acknowledge that YOU are more Canadian.

    #3: That someone who sees religious endorsement in a public space as problematic is offending YOU personally because your religious expression is somehow different, and more authentically Canadian than the rest. 

    I don’t mean to jump on you, but this is the kind of accepted idea that drives me crazy. Celebrate Christmas. Celebrate Ramadan. Celebrate Hanukkah. Celebrate Festivus or whatever! I just can’t imagine what the public outcry would be had he gone on TV and reminded everyone of the spirit of the prophet Mohammad, and why all the kids should remember to pray 5 times a day. 

  43. andrewberkshire says:

    You would have this holiday off anyway even without christianity existing, fact, because it’s been a holiday for thousands of years, before baby jesus was born (allegedly) in Nazareth, not Bethlehem, in March.

  44. BJT says:

    THIS is unintelligent crap, and you’re being a douche. I’m not legitimately replying to this one because you’re now solely calling me stupid and my beliefs illegitimate. I defended each and every point you made intelligently and each time you got more and more pissed and the swearing and insults followed. And you want me to ‘pretend’ I’m being persecuted? Now I don’t need to, because I am. By you. Fact, jerk.

     

    Formerly known as Camel_Larry.. ‘Sub-BAM! What a hit!’
    ..”No more Looser on this teams!!” – Canadienboy

  45. andrewberkshire says:

    This is exactly the kind of arrogance that pisses everyone off when it comes to Christians. You’re out on the attack but you don’t even take the 10 minutes to understand what other people are talking about. This is a HOLIDAY season, not the CHRISTMAS season. There are a ton of holidays this time of year involving a ton of different religions and secular ideas.

  46. andrewberkshire says:

    Your last statement is called a ‘no true scotsman’ fallacy. If you think the bible doesn’t support rape, murder and pillaging, you haven’t read the bible. You should try it, you probably won’t believe it afterwords.

  47. RockinRey says:

    There is another OFFICIAL meaning to Christmas? Christmas means a lot of things to different people. Just as Thanksgiving does. But there is only one official meaning.

    Why would you make a big deal about him reminding people( kids) about the official meaning ? The words ‘all kids should recognize Christmas and only Christmas” did not come out of his mouth. Most of us understood he was speaking to those who would take the time to recognize it whether it was because of a devout faith or because of family tradition.

     


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