Six … and counting

The Canadiens are within one of their record for consecutive home-ice losses … but at least the latest one wasn’t an embarrassment.

After Marc Denis, who had not won a game this season, made a brilliant leg save on Saku Koivu to complete his shootout shutout,  there was stunned silence in the Bell Centre, rather than the raucous boos that have rained down on the team after recent losses.

Canadiens came back from a 2-1 third-period deficit and salvaged a point against Tampa Bay. 

"We battled back," said Saku Koivu. "We’ve talked a lot about playing 60 minutes and not having letdowns. We can’t take a period off."

Like the second. If the stat sheet is to be believed, the Canadiens had 13 giveaways in the middle period, 22 after 40 minutes – to two for Tampa Bay. Lightning scored their second goal off a blooper reel giveaway by Ryan O’Byrne, who played two minutes of the thhird period and was benched for the OT.

The Canadiens didn’t quit. Tomas Plekaanec tied the game at 2 with four and a hlf minutes left, and the Canadiens had the best of the OT.

"We have to take the third period, memorize it and play like that for 60 minutes," said Alex Kovalev.

The coach thinks Canadiens "have to find a way to turn chances into goals."

Maybe Thursday in Philadelphia. And then, with that record for home-ice futility looming, Toronto is here on Saturday. 



  1. doug says:

    totally agree. screw the “find the best french canadian we can get” approach. he’ll suck under the pressure – who was the last talented french player who didn’t get booed out of town?

  2. doug says:

    Marleau would be an unmitigated disaster. i completely agree with you, Bill.

  3. showey47 says:

    Because kovy is not a defenceman, lol

  4. showey47 says:

    Marleau is 5 years younger and has never been injury prone. Like it or not saku’s time as a hab is gonna come to an end either through a trade or when he is a ufa after next season. I would love to see saku retire a hab and hoist the cup for us but i don’t see either happening.

  5. showey47 says:

    rds just showing the fact that kovy is averaging 4 minutes less per game as a hab than any other time in his career. Ask mike keenan if he thrives on lots of icetime

  6. Bill says:

    What potential? Marleau has played more games in the NHL than Koivu, and has fewer career points to show for it, by the way. He scored exactly three more points than Koivu last year, and he makes what, 2 million more per year than Koivu?

    Count me out!

  7. Yeats says:

    Unlike pond hockey, first goal wins!

  8. ebk says:

    hey Ian, enjoy your crown royal
    my suggestion would be to score more goals than the other team for a change

  9. Ian Cobb says:

    Good evening hab fans and Tommy B sir, Well here we go again. Looks like TSN has the game tonight. Being an old fart watching this game alone with some Crown Royal and my feet to the fire, I’M READY, I hope to hell our club is. No sence in evaluating anything right now with this club, you never know what we might get tonight! Just hope we get an honest effort. If i could give them 1 tip it is GET THE PUCK OUT OF OUR END for a change.

    GOING FOR A DRINK—-Post latter. Have fun!

  10. showey47 says:

    You may not see the leadership (even though he is the captain) in marleau but marleau is also 5 years younger, bigger, stronger,faster than koivu. He would fit the role of big center that we need. Like i said in an earlier post i doubt saku is gonna be in this league in the next 2-3 years. Either way i doubt he is gonna resign if carbo is the coach

  11. NLhabsfan says:

    Whey would you want to trade a leader like Koivu??Blame the coach and his system which is NOT working.

  12. Kevin says:

    La Presse is reporting that Carbo plans on giving Kovalev more ice time, but that the extra time wouldn’t be with Koivu. It would be nice to see Kovalev get 20minutes a game, but I’m left asking, why not some time witk Koivu??

  13. Kevin says:

    La Presse is reporting that Carbo plans on giving Kovalev more ice time, but that the extra time wouldn’t be with Koivu. It would be nice to see Kovalev get 20minutes a game, but I’m left asking, why not some time witk Koivu??

  14. Grabbed The Cup says:

    At first glance this looks to be a no-brainer, but commiting 6.3m per year for Marleau is a bad idea for two reasons.

    1) Marleau hasn’t looked very good since last years playoffs, thus making him a 6.3m gamble.

    2) Paying him would make it near impossible to make a play for Vinnie after next year. Admittedly a trade for him is not possible, but nobody would complain if we paid 10m a year for him as a UFA.

    Far from being a ‘Jump on it’ deal, it’s a tough call.

  15. Bill says:

    I remember when they traded Kirk Muller to the Isles for Turgeon (Schneider and Darby also went for Malakhov). That was a brutal trade, and so would this be. Trade Koivu never. Marleau is Somebody Else’s Problem. I don’t care about Ryder so much … though I hope everyone is prepared to watch him score about 60 goals playing with Thornton.

    Saku forever!!

  16. Kevin says:

    When your superior doesn’t know exactly what he’s doing, you can only go on for so long before you’re drained. Their energy is sapped by a dysfunctional system.

  17. Kevin says:

    What he deserves is to be on a winning Canadiens team with a coach who has a good system. Any way to get Bowman back?

  18. Sbah Reverof says:

    Inasmuch as their lacklustre attitude goes, the players are the problem. These are the same guys who were tearing up the league not too long ago, after all. But you’re right, if their heads aren’t in it, it stems from inconsistent coaching and feeling stifled by an all-too-rigourous defensive system.
    That being said, I hope we can somehow pull a win out of our a$$ tonight.
    Go Habs!

  19. Habs-Kat says:

    What does it matter? Saku or Marleau – neither will make an impact with Carbo’s system. The players are NOT the problem.

  20. Keith says:

    I just heard that Tampa’s plane was stuck on the tarmac for over two hours and they didn’t arrive at their hotel til 3AM lol. This should help the Habs from a fatigue standpoint but we still have to be ready to stop Vinnie. As far as the potential deal between San Jose, I say do the deal. I don’t think Saku has been happy this year but for all years he has played here and put up with the outrageously high expectations we place upon the team, he deserves to go to a contender.

  21. likehoy says:

    Marleau wears the C over in San Jose…he must be doing something right

  22. likehoy says:

    if we’re willing to trade saku…we might look into re-uniting him with his long lost buddy mark recchi…for marian hossa ;)…atlanta could be looking for a number 1 centre for kovalchuk…and marian hossa can rock our socks

  23. John Doe says:

    Showey47: I actually have been wondering if the opposite isn’t true. Maybe Saku was approached with a trade and that has him (and the whole team) down. I wouldn’t trade Koivu unless we were getting someone with at least as much leadership back. I don’t quite see that from Marleau.

  24. likehoy says:

    good call too bouillon for a 3rd rounder…that’s 2 million we’re shaving off a dman who should be making half that (cuz he’s half the size of a regular NHLer)

  25. showey47 says:

    The more i think about it, the more i think that saku has quietly asked for a trade. Probably tired of carbo playing him with fourth liners and defencemen on his right wing. It may also explain his poor play as of late. But if i am gainey i make this trade happen, i would probably throw in bouillon just to free up a spot for gorges or obyrne

  26. Derek says:

    I see that happening… their backup has done absolutely crap in San Jose. If there is a package deal in place, one of our backups is definitly in there somewhere. I say Halak chances are…

  27. MathMan says:

    Koivu-for-Marleau would be a huge, huge deal…. and a major shakeup for both teams, as it would be a captain-for-captain deal. Both are slumping right now, so it would have change-of-scenery undertones. I am very skeptical, but Bob McKenzie is hardly some Internet speculator so one must consider the possibility.

    For Montreal it would be a big change in philosophy, or at least, a big expression of the new direction Gainey is taking this team (Chipchura, Latendresse, Pacioretty, etc.). Marleau may not be quite a game-breaker, but he is very skilled, and more importantly he is fast AND big… he would help with so many things that ail the Canadiens. So I think Montreal must do this deal if it is available, even though it will be a sad, sad day when Koivu is no longer the Habs’ captain. One one hand I feel Koivu deserves better… on the other, he may feel his odds are better in San Jose and may welcome the chance to go there and be reunited with his friend Craig Rivet, so this may not be so bad for him. Plus he has a NTC, so it’s not like he has to go if he doesn’t want to. But I feel that Montreal would be much the poorer for losing Koivu-the-person, even if they find an adequate replacement for Koivu-the-player.

    Why does San Jose do this? One presumes they would look for a defenseman instead, where they are relatively thin (even with Rivet — who they have on their top pairing). One may indeed be packaged in the deal as an adjunct as Montreal has a surplus. But the one reason the Sharks would consider this would be if they are looking for a shakeup and an infusion of heart, as there are few players who can provide more of it than Koivu. And I have no doubt Koivu would be an excellent second-line center behind Thornton.

    That said… Joe Thornton on the same team as Saku Koivu would be a weird, weird, WEIRD thing.

  28. sidhu says:

    I made the same suggestion — Koivu and Ryder for Marleau and Bernier — last week:

  29. P St. Pierre says:

    Cheechoo and Roenick are also on the injured reserve. That may or may not play into this proposed trade.

  30. MikeL says:

    When did McKenzie say this? I’m searching his TSN blog and I see nothing. Was it on TV?

  31. Chuck says:

    Where did you hear that rumour?


    “Vote Saku for All-Star… or little Timmy gets it!!!”

  32. likehoy says:

    check that, imagine Jumbo Joe feeding Cheechoo and Ryder…those who were scared that Ryder would be a 40+ scorer for another team should be even more scared since he’s going to be playing with the league’s (arguably, but i don’t like sid the kid) best playmaker.

  33. Wops says:

    Rumours of Halak/Koivu for Marleau/Kaspar too…

    Hope somethings happen… I hate to get excited for no reason…
    CH is for Chris Higgins

  34. moser17 says:

    Of the possible trades that could occur to shake things up, this one seems one of the worst. There is better trade bait than Koivu, who is a good leader and needs consistent play from his teammates. Ryder, on the other hand, is good bait, and we are sitting on two NHL calibre goaltenders in Denis and Halak who could get thrown into the mix. I can see Ryder, a goalie and maybe Kostopolous attracting a couple of power forwards. Though not from SJ. I don’t like this deal at all.

  35. Gilles Poisson says:

    Tampa sucks on the road. Tampa are a tired team who played last night and arrived late because of a delay. They missed their morning skate today. Richards is hurting. They have no defense or goaltending. The Habs OWE their fans a win. If the Habs lose tonight, it’s going to get really really hot in Montreal. I think Gainey and Wilson have been speaking on and off since the draft so there may be a nugget of truth there. But I think Montreal would have to sweeten the pot significantly over the above proposal.

  36. likehoy says:

    I say do it, Marleau has more good years left in him than Koivu. Maybe he’s grown complacent in San Jose with Jumbo Joe being the central figure after Marleau was top dog for so many years. Koivu’s leadership could be lossed, but Marleau IS the captain of the Sharks, so I’m sure he’ll bring some leadership with him. And he’s a great skater.

    Reminds me of when someone said that the Habs like to choose a team and make them their trading-partners for a while. Seems like that theory is true.

    Bernier and Latendresse will give us 2 up and coming power-forwards, but from the looks of it, they’re probably at the same level in their development.

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