Ribeiro’s revenge

Take that, Bob.

Mike Ribeiro scored a goal and added two assists, leading Dallas Satrs to a 4-1 stomping of the woeful Canadiens.

And so the Dec. 23 jinx continues.

Canadiens have not won a road game on this date since 1945.

The only solution: Dec. 23, 2008 in Boston.

Bruins were the team they beat in ’45. 


  1. doug says:

    count me as one of his remaining fans. . . i like the guy and think he’s worked hard. i think it’s unfortunate we (collectively) seem to hate the guy so much.

    it’s like people calling for gainey’s head. . . can we give the guy a little break for being a bit distracted? where’s the compassion?

  2. doug says:

    sarcastic. . . people think we’ll be fine without him and with only price. cournoyer12 and i disagree; i prefer him to price this year and maybe next, which is not anti-price, but pro-huet. buddy.

  3. doug says:

    that one did make me laugh. . . at least i broke a smile! thanks for that, ali.

  4. Ali says:

    true that, hes like a worse version of Jussi Jokinen lol

  5. Ali says:

    i agree, thats where the coaching staff and team leaders have to be held accountable. But some guys are not controllable, like Kovalev. And Ryder is working hard, and considering some stuff thats been going on with his family (His brother, his house firebombed or something) i dont think his head is totally in hockey right now. Nobody imagined he would be as bad production wise as he has been

  6. Y says:

    Huet sucks?
    Ok there buddy

  7. doug says:

    i don’t want that guy, nor do i want theodore. i liked and like ribeiro’s game.

    the point i made about his shootout skills is all i was saying. . . he was the best we’ve ever had in that department.

  8. doug says:

    no, haven’t you seen? he sucks as much as ryder and huet do. . . only difference is he’s a former canadien who terrorizes us while the latter two are future former canadiens who will terrorize us.

  9. Barts says:

    Gonna have to turn this off pretty soon, I want to enjoy my Xmas.

  10. Ali says:

    this is getting ugly, and Ribeiro must be loving every second of it.

  11. doug says:

    though i wouldn’t mind having a cancer-causing player with two assists in this game. damn.

  12. doug says:

    agree with that.

  13. Ali says:

    if you think Latendresse is slow, he’s lightning compared to Dagenais.

  14. doug says:

    fair enough. i just don’t like seeing a guy score 90-100 points for another team when we haven’t had someone like that in years.

    i think we push the panic button too early. maybe i picked the wrong guy as an example, but the yearly “cancer” award thing (natasha last year, ryder this year) is as tiring as the nightly “the refs are against us” crap that we post on here.

    maybe we should look in the mirror once in a while?

  15. Yeats says:

    Janne Ninnima was slower than crap coming out of a dog’s bum in winter!

  16. Ali says:

    dagenais can’t sakte, he’d be on the bench the whole game. Theodore, well, you know what happened there. There’s no doubt that we could use Ribeiro’s production, and being a local boy he would have been perfect for this team, its just a pity that: A) he didn’t grow mature enough to be able to handle the spotlight and pressure here in a way that was beneficial to the team, and B) that we didn’t get enough for him becase it was well known in the league that he was that way.

  17. Barts says:

    Pierre Dagenais is playing for Innsbruck EV in Austria… 17 goals, 12 assists in 31 games.

  18. Ali says:

    immaturity is one thing, causing a split in the dressing room is another. And these things are not secrets in the league, it was never going to be not a position of weakenss, because everyone knew his personality.

  19. doug says:

    agree on that. . . but did we have to deal all three or could we have kept just one?

    i’d like to have dagenais for shootouts alone. . . is he still in the league?

  20. Barts says:

    Give me a break. Ribeiro would never have flourished in Montreal. The best move Bob has made was getting rid of the ‘Three Amigos’, Ribiero, Dagenais, and Theo. Besides, no one should be permitted to disgrace a Habs jersey with a hairdo like that.

  21. DYCSoccer17 says:

    Why does everyone think taking a dumb penalty early in a game is good?

    “Defending his captain” – what a line of BS. Our captain can defend himself.

    If you want to defend the goalie, then that’s one thing. If you get pissed and take a dumb penalty over a clean hit on your captain, then that’s another thing.

  22. Alirio says:

    Anyone else notice Markov getting hurt on the PK?

    I’ve made a huge mistake…

  23. doug says:

    so you’re telling me you’d trade dallas’ leading goal scorer for a guy who sucked last year and is now in switzerland? i see good for him. . . but for us?? we underestimated his talent because we thought he was immature. never deal from a position of weakness.

  24. sidhu says:

    If anyone is wondering, Niinimaa is playing for Davos in the Swiss-A league this year.

  25. Ali says:

    Ribeiro was a cancer here, he was treated like a superstar just because he was a local boy, and with his buddies Jose and Pierre cause a split in the dressing room.

    I believe the reason he’s doing well in Dallas is that he had to earn his respect there, and it wasn’t just given to him. Guys like Modano and Zubov, as well as a coach like Tippett won’t let you get away with that crap.

  26. doug says:

    next gaffe: ryder for bag of pucks

  27. Kenny says:

    I disagree….i think ribeiro is playing well because it was a change of scenery. It was best for both the team and him to go to dallas. I doubt he would be playing this well if he was still with the Habs….

  28. doug says:

    first point for ribeiro

  29. doug says:

    ribeiro trade was one of the bigger gaffes in recent memory, although not on par with chelios/savard or leclair/desjardins for recchi

  30. Barts says:

    Nice forearm shiver on Koivu by Robidas. Guaranteed folks, Gord Dwyer and Mick McGeogh will have you pulling your hair out by the end of the night.

  31. Ali says:

    uh oh, Markov is hurt…

  32. Ali says:

    ah it was a love tap, trying to get his attention!

  33. Flake says:

    what kind of a call was that??!!

  34. sidhu says:

    Kosto – cross-check

  35. sidhu says:

    Gotta defend the Captain

  36. Ali says:

    to the defence of his captain, Good job TOM THE BOMB!

  37. Ali says:

    so what was the call exactly? Did Bouillon get the 2 or was it Kostopolous?

  38. showey47 says:

    1P 20:00: Great: Mick McGeogh

    I was thinking the same thing mr.boone, and gauging by the first penalty he is already starting his garbage

  39. DYCSoccer17 says:

    Again, no fighting straps tied down. How come the Habs are the only team penalized when it comes to this crap rule?

  40. linp says:

    Bouillon’s play is getting more solid recently.

  41. sidhu says:

    Ribeiro one on one with OB, good job by the rookie

  42. Barts says:

    All I want for Xmas is Mike Ribiero in the Komisarek trolley tracks…

  43. Cable Guy says:

    Whats Mike talking about when he says ‘ridiculous’ travel between atlanta and dallas? The 2 cities are only 1100 km away from each other, it’s like 2-3 hours flying time…..this seems normal to me.

  44. ebk says:

    The good news…..
    Habs claim 4th overall in the Eastern Conference( and 2nd best point total) with a win tonight in Dallas

    The bad news…..
    ah heck it is Christmas, there is no bad news for the next few days

  45. yukonhab says:

    Half hour before lift off…The “Young Guns” will be looking to change history from this day forward. I believe in the youth bring’n us to victory…from the nets out…we are going to be hard to stop…we are one player from being at the BIG Show this yr. Thank you Ryder for bringing us hope with the hat trick last yr in T.O. May your guns blaze glory once again!


  46. Exit716 says:

    Koivu eats Ribs for dinner tonight to silence his friends in the French press.
    Saku gets a hat trick.

  47. howtathor says:

    let’s hope the distractions of being “home for the holidays” works against the Stars. Wonder if Ribs is still doing his pimpin’ act? That really turned Gainey off! Three amigos..! Now we’ve got the Fantastic Four: Chips, Price, Higgy and Gorges!

  48. The Teacher says:

    Habs are winning 4-2. Send us off into the holidays in a good mood.

  49. showey47 says:

    you to doc, sorry about not being able to play for you guys tonight but i gotta work at 4:30 tomorrow morning. Renzella told me last night that they are gonna be very short also and were trying to find a goalie.

  50. fun police says:

    showey, have a merry christmas.

  51. tony d says:

    hey Mike in case I forget, I wanna wish you and your family a Merry Christmas
    and all the Habs fans out there.
    We are a masochistic bunch but united in our never-ending faith in the bleu, blanc et rouge.
    Thanks for the laughs, the insights, the stats and predictions over the past year.
    looking forward to more of the same in ’08.
    Be well

  52. Ian Cobb says:

    Mike, you mean Dallas is Canadians Pearl Harbour!

    We better send the Vingt-deux

  53. Moey says:

    Hi Ian, I won’t be able to see the entire game tonight but I’ll catch the socre here and there.

    Don’t know if you are a movie watcher, but here’s a good one for you to rent, “Mystery, Alaska”….a hockey flick with Russell Crowe and Bert Reynolds. Brilliant, a bit of everthing in it. Hockey, humor, romance etc. Mike Myers does a Don Cherry like broadcaster as well. If you have a chance pick it up, you won’t be disappointed.

  54. yathehabsrule says:

    Let’s just end Ribeiro’s point streak and the curse of the 23rd as well! Was there a bad trade or something to make this day difficult to win on?

  55. showey47 says:

    This one is gonna be tough, 3rd game in four nights all on the road and tonight against a motivated ribiero. I just hope we bring last nights energy and lapierre makes mikey ribs night absolutly miserable.

  56. teamplayer says:

    yeh that is a really good movie, i agree, it is a must see if you have yet to see it.

  57. Ian Cobb says:

    I might get it after boxing day sometime.

    Hope my friend is home tonight, he has a dish. so i can watch the game or its cjad and my favorite bunch on here!

  58. Ian Cobb says:

    Well we play tonight against the team that Bob Gainey built.

    This will give us an idea of what kind of a team he is now building in Mtl.

  59. Habssince1983 says:

    Guys I’m gonna stand on my pedestal and call it, you heard it first from me…. If the Habs win tonight, they win the cup!!!!

  60. The Teacher says:

    Let’s send good vibes to ward off the curse of Dec. 23rd.

    wiggling my fingers saying “ohhaahooooaaa”

  61. Y says:

    I knew that Ribeiro would come back to haunt us.

    Pathetic. This one is over.

  62. doug says:

    i think we all knew it. . . which is why i started off the night in a bad mood. it always happens when montrealers play against us, and former canadiens who were sent out for nothing are particularly vindictive. . . especially when they’re damn good players, personality’s aside.

  63. Barts says:

    Ribiero is loving it? How about Brendan Morrow? He’s married to Carboneau’s daughter.

  64. Steiner says:

    im actually bored.

  65. MatttheHabsFan says:

    sounds like this game just might ruin some people’s christmas:P

  66. Girth says:

    It’s December 23rd isn’t it?

  67. doug says:

    Habs PP rank in December – 15th in the league. . . stat was just put up on television broadcast.

  68. Habs-Kat says:

    We will never beat a Western conference team. If by some miracle we make it to the finals, I’ll be smelling a sweep.

  69. Ali says:

    not even Columbus? Yeah, you’re probably right.

  70. Yeats says:

    Their house league is better than ours.

  71. Girth says:

    A good PP so far…

  72. Ali says:

    Anyone else want Komisarek or O’Byrne to completely wreck Ribeiro before this game is over?

  73. Yeats says:

    I’d enjoy that. Count me in!

  74. doug says:

    he’s embarrassing us. . . i’d like to think we can stop him rather than goon up or hurt him. . . that’s 1980’s era bruins versus canadiens when they couldn’t beat us in goals on the ice so they just beat us on the ice.

  75. mcLovin says:

    ribs is really ugly

  76. doug says:

    i guess we have to find some reason to not like the guy given his scoring prowess and our bad judgment.

  77. Barts says:

    O’Byrne wreck Ribiero? Doubtful, he’s still busy looking for his check on that last goal. *yawn*

  78. showey47 says:

    actually morrow was hamrliks check but was hauled down by morrow which is why he was so open for the goal

  79. the_vipah says:

    Ribiero is owning us as I knew he would. We tossed him for nothing. He is an elite playmaker and it would appear he can also score (at a better clip then anyone we kept). Like usual our player management (trades, signings etc..) is embarassing.

  80. Ali says:

    Hey i just noticed Ribs changed his number, maybe that was the problem all along!

  81. showey47 says:

    dallas defenceman has no stick and grabs on kovy and no holding call, pathetic

  82. Steiner says:

    Price looks so angry.
    He keeps throwing the puck whenever he catches it…

  83. Ali says:

    Biggest problem in that period? We for some reason thought we were playing half court hockey, and that our half of the court is where the game was being played, because i think about 15 minutes of that period was in our zone.

  84. Barts says:

    Ya sorry, the refereeing is the reason the Habs are down two.

  85. doug says:

    there are only three things in life that are certain: death, taxes, and showey complaining about the refs

  86. doug says:

    amen. we kicked butt without the biased refs. funny how the whole league is out to get us. . . the ontario refs want us to lose because they hate quebec.

    yep, it’s not that we’re young and rebuilding (well) and clutch a lot.

  87. Chuck says:

    Time to start generating some offence, boys! Yeah, Morrow unfairly generated some open ice on that last goal (nice call, by the way), but we’ve still got to put the puck past Turco at the other end. Pressure!

    “Vote Saku for All-Star… or little Timmy gets it!!!”

  88. Girth says:

    Ain’t it always the way …

  89. Chuck says:

    Damn you showey for exposing the truth! 😉


    “Vote Saku for All-Star… or little Timmy gets it!!!”

  90. sidhu says:

    That was some pass from Todd Collins to Chris Cooley for the touchdown… I mean, oh yeah, go habs go

  91. doug says:

    every game?

    only losers complain about the refs (and i’m not referring to showey, i’m referring to the team)

  92. Chuck says:

    I knew it! Thanks for confirming my suspicion!

    “Vote Saku for All-Star… or little Timmy gets it!!!”

  93. RiverviewCanadien says:

    screwed again like last night

  94. Yeats says:

    You know, if hockey were played wearing showshoes instead of skates, Janne Ninnima would be the equivalent of Pavel Bure!

  95. Ali says:

    and almost the equal of Mark Messier as well, considering if we had beaten Buffalo that game, his prediction would have been true!

  96. Yeats says:

    Four, you forgot Huet losing the shootout.

  97. RiverviewCanadien says:

    SK74 ML40 AK27 = goals…hard work pays off

  98. tony d says:

    i think i picked the wrong night to order RDS from my cable supplier
    for those of you not watching the game, our boys are being outplayed, outhussled, pinned in their end, ya know, the usual sloppy style they tend to fall back on…
    let’s hope for a more physical and focussed 2nd
    go habs go
    man I can’t stand that cocky Ribeiro, wanna smack that smile off his skinny little bug eyed face

  99. Rob² says:

    It’s sad how it’s so obvious that the refs have been closing their eyes to should-be infractions against the habs. It’s been the story all year and I’m surprised nothing has been brought to the league.

  100. Yeats says:

    He was a rock of leadership. Oh well, at least a rock.

  101. doug says:

    Four: yeats complaining about huet losing a shootout (or predicting it beforehand) 😉

  102. JB_15 says:

    This sorta reminds me of the Mighty Ducks vs. Team Iceland. Maybe it’s because of Dallas’ dark jerseys. But yeah, this is clearly a one-sided affair.

    Anyone know if that Gunner Staal of Team Iceland is any relation to Jordan Eric or Marc?

  103. doug says:

    how can we honestly think it’s only us? that they’re out to get us? are you guys serious? has it come to this?

  104. Ed says:

    Ribeiro played 7:49 in the 1st, more than any Montreal forward, & was +2 with 2 assists. Not bad for a guy not wanted in Montreal. Gainey is lucky that Ribeiro only plays Montreal once every 2 years. What a waste to let a talent like that escape us; actually we gave him away.

  105. Yeats says:

    But, Janne Ninnima makes us all appreciate Lats’ speed!

  106. JB_15 says:

    Can everyone here please stop making Mike Rebeiro out to be in the “elite” of the league. This is a gross overstatement. Is he having a good year? Yes. Did he play poorly for us a lot of the time? Yes. Has he proven that this year is not an anomaly? No. He was timid, lazy, and cocky when he played here, and I hated him. Just because he has 33 points (or whatever) dont make him out to be a tier 1 superstar. He’s far from it, and the youth in our system far surpasses him both in work ethic and natural ability in my opinion.

  107. doug says:

    Ed, you and i are in the minority. . . read below. . . everyone else is glad that he’s gone even if it was for nothing.

  108. The Teacher says:


  109. Alirio says:

    Habs look to be on their way to another shutout performance. They need to skate more. They’re tired and it shows.

    I’ve made a huge mistake…

  110. doug says:

    i agree with most of what you said. and i agree with the point that hindsight is 20/20. just wish we got something for him. and just worried because ryder is being run out of town and we’re impacting his trade value as well. . . which ticks me off.

  111. Ed says:

    Yes Doug, I think they are just afraid to admit that Montreal made a big mistake.

  112. Chuck says:

    Time to start giving our goalie some support!

    “Vote Saku for All-Star… or little Timmy gets it!!!”

  113. Girth says:

    Well… hindsight is 20/20…

    Remember there are many risks of dragging a chronically slumping player on your roster… (re: Ryder)… Don’t get me wrong, I’m glad Rebiero found his game. I’m simply not sure I would have wanted to risk the possibility that, perhaps it was something in the situation here in Montreal that impeded his development.

    Given the circumstances it seemed like an acceptable move.


  114. Chuck says:

    Who’s Mike Rebeiro?

    “Vote Saku for All-Star… or little Timmy gets it!!!”

  115. DYCSoccer17 says:

    And so begins the line-juggling.

    You can juggle all the lines you want…the team is still back in Atlanta. Nothing is going to wake them up.

  116. Rob² says:

    ok, well it’s not only us really… I’ve watched a few non-habs games as well and it seems to be a problem across the board from what I’ve see. The problem is that there tends to be a trend to be lob-sided with the calls I think. The Canadiens seem to be on the short end of the stick more often than not. This is why we take a “why us” attitude.

  117. The Teacher says:

    The player they got in return was the mistake. Getting rid of him was not.

  118. The Teacher says:

    Higgins needs to start making smarter decisions.

  119. The Teacher says:

    If someone is tired..why isn’t Ryder playing..he isn’t I’m sure.

  120. showey47 says:

    man do we need the next goal in a big way

  121. JB_15 says:

    I hear ya, really I do. And it always sucks, but it happens to every team in every sport. You cannot sit around and wait forever. Ryder isn’t performing. Game in and game out he fails to produce. How many chances are you supposed to give these guys? If you screw up at work enough times, you get canned. These guys are lucky it doesnt mean being out of work, but just moving offices. Ryder is not doing anything to suggest that we should keep him in the lineup – he alone is diminishing his trade value with his play. Other GMs dont listen to fans or the media, they show up to games and watch the player. Ryder has embarassed himself in front of other teams’ scouts I am sure. I think its unfair to blame his failures on the city itself.

  122. TommyB says:

    Habs just want to get out of this game and on with their individual plans for wherever each is heading for Christmas.

  123. Yeats says:

    The best way to support your goaltender is by scoring some freaking goals!

  124. doug says:

    don’t disagree with that at all. but some are unwilling to admit he had any value. i find that ludicrous. . . as is the argument that the “word was out that he was a cancer and it affected his trade value”. . . who spread that word? the habs did.

  125. Yeats says:

    Just stay with the system. We’re going to put Dallas to sleep by the end of the second.

  126. Ali says:

    Are you sure? Based on what I’ve seen tonight, its giving him a tap on the pads after he lets one in!

  127. Chuck says:

    Maybe they should have cancelled Christmas break since 1946…

    “Vote Saku for All-Star… or little Timmy gets it!!!”

  128. doug says:

    i think it’s a waste of energy, though. i also don’t think we get the short end of the stick – i think we’re biased and we see it the way we want to see it because we want to win, as do any good fans. appreciate the reply, though.

  129. Rugger says:

    Way too much negativity here tonight.

  130. Ali says:

    this is what freaks me out.

    If Carbo puts Koivu and Kovalev together when hes desperate for a goal, why wouldn’t you have them together ALL THE FREAKING TIME?????!??

  131. Yeats says:

    That’s actually third best after marking your man in the defensive end.

  132. Girth says:

    lol… that reminds me of Bob Cole!

  133. showey47 says:

    hey no need for insulting here, i’m just stating the obvious

  134. TommyB says:

    You’re a mean one, Mr. Grinch! lol

  135. Yeats says:

    Too much offense puts “The System” in peril.

  136. imafogdevil says:

    Just heard Ryder to Carolina to take Justin Williams place. Carolina asked for scouting report. This was from Murray Wilson on CJAD.

    Would be good for all involved.

  137. doug says:

    thanks, jb. . . i just think it’s a slump, pure and simple. and i think he’s worked hard and will come out of it. and i guess i disagree about the city – i think that we are impatient and confuse that with players “not being able to play under the pressure.” it’s not the pressure, it’s the impatience and the resulting calls for trades prematurely. . .

  138. RS says:

    I would have liked to see Ryder in the lineup tonight, if only for that one reason.

  139. TommyB says:

    What comes our way?

  140. Ali says:

    Why is there a trade freeze in December? To stop the any Christmas Miracles allowing the Canadiens to obtain their bonafide sniper.

  141. Yeats says:

    Free cigarettes for a year!

  142. Ali says:

    Future considerations?

  143. Mattee. says:

    wow, I came out of my coma when I heard “system”… how is everyone?

  144. JB_15 says:

    I’m not disagreeing that the fans and media get ansy really quickly. But do you think this has any actual bearing on the movement of players? Ryder has skill, no question. And if enough GMs agree with you, then they will be willing to give up more than we think for him. I cant speak for other organizations though, and I dont know what the consensus on him is. I for one hope they agree with you so that we get someone good in return.

  145. Mattee. says:

    again with the system their yeatssss… I want to smash the system.

  146. Yeats says:

    I agree, it’s biased. What about other religious holidays?

  147. JB_15 says:

    Especially because we dont play the canes again this year (I dont think). So if he does revive, it wont affect us.

  148. doug says:

    send him to the western conference. . . not to another team we have to face relatively often.

  149. Ali says:

    True, I’ll get the council on Reasonable Accomodation to put that on their agenda.

  150. Yeats says:

    Get with The System before The System gets with you! LOL

  151. showey47 says:

    i’m guessing so you don’t get traded in the middle of christmas dinner

  152. JB_15 says:

    Why is there no Kwanza trade freeze?

  153. Chuck says:

    Did somebody mention that we’ve still got only 10 shots?

    “Vote Saku for All-Star… or little Timmy gets it!!!”

  154. doug says:

    as per my comment about your photo the other day, you look awfully nervous about it, though 😉

  155. TommyB says:

    “Maintains the illusion”….gotta admit Mike, pretty much sums it up tonight.

  156. Ali says:

    sure, thats the “Official” reason…

  157. Yeats says:

    And, no trades before sundown during the Month of Ramadan.

  158. Girth says:

    yup… 10 shots in 35 minutes.

    That’s like one every 3.5 minutes. We’re on a role!

  159. Chuck says:

    Great… now if only we could get Criss Angel to suit up for the CH!

    “Vote Saku for All-Star… or little Timmy gets it!!!”

  160. Ali says:

    Why is our team an attempted replica of the 1999 version of the Dallas Stars?

  161. Yeats says:

    Well, for obvious reasons, there should be no trades on St. Patrick’s Day.

  162. Ali says:

    its only fair! and we can work in Hannukah, Passover, Easter, etc.

  163. JB_15 says:

    If you get traded in the middle of christmas dinner from say, detroit to st.louis, does that mean you have to shut off the motown music and put away the turkey in favour of jazz and ribs?

  164. Yeats says:

    One of the primary tenents of “The System” is economizing on shots. Waste not, want not.

  165. JB_15 says:

    All we need behind the bench now is Mike Keane and we’re set.

  166. Ali says:

    economizing is the system, since we give up so many shots, the avg shots per team should not be excessive, so we don’t shoot. As long as it averages out, 40 shots allowed, 10 for, average = 25 shots per team.

  167. Ali says:

    all drafts are not created equal. See 1999.

  168. Yeats says:

    Excellent point! We generally don’t do anything with our shots anyway, so why take them in the first place?

  169. Girth says:

    A primary trait of this “economizing” system is that we’re supposed to maintain possession longer, restricting the opponents ability to take shots.


  170. doug says:

    hope that was ignored because it was stupid, not insulting. was meant to be sarcastic; apologies if missed the mark.

  171. Yeats says:

    Technically speaking, yes! But, it’s all so theoretical anyway.

  172. Sulemaan says:

    I really hope I’m reading this incorrectly and you guys are not mocking other religions. If so, take it some other blog and not on a hockey blog about the Habs.

    If I’m totally off in left field and misread this entire stream, my apologies gentlemen but I’ve had enough racial comments for 2007. Some right here in this blog no less directed towards me.

  173. Ali says:

    No Sulemaan, we’re trying to find a way to incorporate other religious miracles into this league, since the trade freeze disallows any christmas miracles. By the way, Eid Mubarak!

  174. Ali says:

    wasted energy i say! Goal for tonight, 15 shots or less. Anything more and i’ll be dissapointed.

  175. ebk says:

    I think you hit the nail on the head, sir. The Habs are trying to reduce their carbon footprint. It is absolutely brilliant!

  176. Sulemaan says:

    Thanks for clarifying Ali. Merry Christmas to you mon ami. Let’s incorporate as many religious miracles as possible. Beauty of Canada, eh?

  177. doug says:

    read below. . . you and i are the only ones who don’t think it was a good trade. janne is lighting it up in switzerland, just didn’t have a good defensive pairing here i guess 😉

  178. mcLovin says:

    yah.. cuz he really produced great when he played for us. you can’t expect gainey to have perfect hindsight time and time again. ribeiro was weak when he was in mtl. he avoided checks, he fell over a lot, and he didn’t produce nearly enough. so he got the boot. dallas is the most boring team in hockey, and he happens to be doing well. but it wont last. and they wont win a cup. so whatever.

  179. the_vipah says:

    Strange, im pretty sure he lead our team in scoring one of those years.

  180. PattyBoy31 says:

    I bet the exact same thing will happen with Ryder

  181. doug says:

    but we were one of the most boring teams in hockey, and he just led us, but it wouldn’t have lasted. and we wouldn’t have won the cup. so whatever.

  182. doug says:

    at least whoever made the fearless prediction at the beginning of the night that if we win tonight we’ll win the cup won’t be putting his neck on the line (unless we really turn this around, which for some weird reason, i retain some faith about).

  183. doug says:

    desperate for a goal here.

    turco is really good.

  184. doug says:

    desperate for a goal here.

    turco is really good.

  185. doug says:

    boone – think turco is going to get a shutout? can you call it now? before the 5 on 3 is over?

  186. The Teacher says:

    that crosscheck saved a goal

  187. Chuck says:

    When in doubt… go to the net!!!

    “Vote Saku for All-Star… or little Timmy gets it!!!”

  188. JB_15 says:

    That should unequivocally be an automatic penalty shot.

  189. Chuck says:


    “Vote Saku for All-Star… or little Timmy gets it!!!”

  190. Ali says:

    WTF?? Sergei’s on the point?

  191. JB_15 says:

    Hahah “Is it fair to say that’s a terrible performance after two periods?”


  192. Ali says:

    Just as classy as quietly squeezing him out of the picture.

  193. Chuck says:

    C’mon Kirk; tired or not, it’s been a sucky two periods.


    “Vote Saku for All-Star… or little Timmy gets it!!!”

  194. doug says:

    was that the interview on rds? i have the dallas feed. what did muller say?

  195. Chuck says:

    Thus sets up the only 3rd period comeback of 2007…


    “Vote Saku for All-Star… or little Timmy gets it!!!”

  196. Erik says:

    what a bunch of crap! What about that Andrei Kostitsyn BRUTAL!!!!

  197. Chuck says:

    Kostitsyn the Either is playing tonight? Who Knew?

    “Vote Saku for All-Star… or little Timmy gets it!!!”

  198. Erik says:

    I dont need to hear crappy excuses This is sickening SICKENING!!!! CARBO FEEL FREE TO GO crazy in the second intermission. INEXCUSABLE!!!! I think maybe Andrei Kosty could use a little time in HAMILTON!!!!

  199. The Teacher says:

    I don’t think he’s playing that much worse than Higgins?

  200. showey47 says:

    exactly, tampa bay walked into our building last tuesday playing their third game in 4 nights with vinny, richards and st.louis all playing close to 30 mins and beat us. Carbo’s reasoning for rolling 4 lines is so the team would not be tired in a condensed schedule.

  201. TommyB says:

    No NO No…..Carbo shouldn’t do that. Got to be careful with the fragile confidence of this team….you know, that fragile space between their ears. LMAO

    Yer damn right he should feel free to go crazy on these guys. Sticks should be smashing in the room as we speak.

  202. The Teacher says:

    How do you know what was being said? who said Markov needs to reply? You people need to take chill pills, PLEEEASSSEEE

  203. Habssince1983 says:

    I’d take back what I said if I was a fickle fan. I still believe that they (the Habs) can pull a W out of their asses tonight. GO HABS GO.

  204. Ali says:

    I missed the 2nd and 3rd yesterday, what happened?

  205. Girth says:

    The HABS are like a box of chocolates… you never know what your gonna get.

    .. from one game/day/period/shift to the next.

  206. showey47 says:

    higgins seems to get chances but he either misses the net or hits the goalie in the chest.

  207. Ali says:

    Koivu would be a point per game player if Higgins didn’t miss as many chances as he does. I agree with McGuire, he can think of himself as a 40 goal guy, but I think he tops out at 30-ish.

  208. Girth says:

    Especially with a guy like Jarvis around, who never missed a single game in his entire career. 962 consecutive starts.

  209. JB_15 says:

    I am feeling a good third akin to the florida game. Something about this being the home stretch. We are still in this, they know that. I bet this will be entertaining at the very least.

  210. DYCSoccer17 says:

    enough of this garbage.

  211. JB_15 says:

    Nevermind. 3-0.

  212. Yeats says:

    Tell me that did not just happen!

  213. sidhu says:

    Oh flip. Ribs couldn’t have planned a better game against us.

  214. showey47 says:

    Well that sums the game there

  215. Chuck says:

    Wow. World-class shot by Ribeiro. Where was that in Montreal?

    “Vote Saku for All-Star… or little Timmy gets it!!!”

  216. Ed says:

    Ribeiro sends his best to all his bashers. That was a beautiful shot upstairs. I bet he is better than a lot of our guys on the shoot out.

  217. Girth says:

    I heard they have tequila shooters behind the bench!

  218. Barts says:

    There he is laughing at all of us, and especially Bob Gainey.

  219. Alirio says:

    Para espinga!

    Poorly spelled portugese expression that means TAKE THAT!

    Giving Tibeiro away was short-sighted.

    I don’t care whose grand-daughter he hit on.

    I’ve made a huge mistake…

  220. Ali says:

    what the heck was Ribeiro doing out there on a defensive zone face-off in the first place? I’ve never seen that happen before!

  221. Cable Guy says:

    When is there a game where an ex-habs players didn’t really nail us……you could see this coming. I say we break ribs legs.

  222. Blitzen says:

    Hamrlik needs to go sit down now…

  223. TommyB says:

    Merry Christmans, Happy Holidays guys! There’s gotta be something better to do with the rest of this night.

  224. sidhu says:

    Well, at least it wasn’t Ribs.

  225. Ali says:

    you know, people say that it takes a perfect shot to beat Carey upstairs when he goes down in that butterfly, but people are getting that shot perfect far too often…

  226. Chuck says:

    Sure the team’s young, but at least you expect some consistency out of your veterans!

    “Vote Saku for All-Star… or little Timmy gets it!!!”

  227. showey47 says:

    even if we did have ribiero in a shootout, carbo would have him shooting after bouillon or gorges

  228. Yeats says:

    But, our forwards are so young and crafty. Never post with a mouth full of beer. I almost spit the whole load out. Yes, I crack myself up sometimes.

  229. Blitzen says:

    Sorry but nobody would have stopped Ribeiro’s shot. That was right in the corner. Ribeiro even took a second look to make sure it was in.

  230. Ali says:

    i was talking about the Morrow goal, I agree Ribeiro’s was fine.

  231. Chuck says:

    Dammit! I knew that it was all his fault! 😉

    “Vote Saku for All-Star… or little Timmy gets it!!!”

  232. the_vipah says:

    As per usual a former Hab that was traded for nothing come back to completely dominate the Habs. Another brutal trade in a long line of brutal trades the last 20 years.

  233. JB_15 says:

    I really dont care that we’re losing that much. I care that Carey Price was hung out to dry again. I care that Guy Carbonneau decided to start Price against a far superior dallas team on a night when the team was obviously going to be tired. There is no reason for him to be in goal this game, Carbonneau once again, contribute to destroying the confidence of the young stars within this organization by misusing them.

  234. RS says:

    I remember some kid named Patrick Roy who used to have the same problem!

  235. Ali says:

    the RDS guys should just go get on their knees in reverance to Ribeiro after the game…

  236. the_vipah says:

    They should, hes better then anyone we have, and by a longshot.

  237. Ali says:

    Don’t get me wrong, there is no way this loss is his fault, he was awesome in the 2nd. But, to say there are not area’s in his game to be improved, thats not true either.

    I have complete faith in his abilities as a goalie, but he is still young, and will only get better.

  238. The Teacher says:

    oh give me a break already

  239. TommyB says:

    You think it would have been better to play Huet….in what would have been his third game in four nights?

    Yeah, bonehead move.

  240. Chuck says:

    Youre right: this loss has nothing to do with the 20 guys in the lineup… it all Bob’s fault!!!

    “Vote Saku for All-Star… or little Timmy gets it!!!”

  241. the_vipah says:

    Err is that your argument that he is not?

  242. The Teacher says:

    You’re not a fan, please go away 😛

  243. Ali says:

    oh come on, people act like we traded away Guy Lafleur. The guy was a disaster here, he acted like a primadonna, he publicly called out the Captains leadership in an interview (I saw it), and had absolutely no positive influence. Not only that, he would have infected the other younger players with his attitude. Even with tonights performance, i’m still glad he’s gone.

  244. The Teacher says:


  245. the_vipah says:

    Not at all. Simply said the last 20 years of brutal management have left us with a team of ok players while we’ve traded away tons of top notch players.

    I’d name them all, but thats an easy excercise if you’ve watched the team that long.

    In return we have….??

  246. the_vipah says:

    The fact is we got NOTHING for him, and that is the usual for us.

  247. RS says:

    Two games in two nights, you use two goalies if you got em. We have enough problems, don’t manufacture some other artificial issues.

    As anybody could forecast before the season started, the Habs are a mediocre team in a battle for a playoff spot. So far, and even after tonight, the Habs are right around where we might reasonably hope.

    I’d love to bring the Rocket and Doug Harvey back from the dead (or trade a few fourth liners for a superstar) but it ain’t going to happen.

  248. Yeats says:

    He’s absolutely right. We suck and Ribiero was the man tonight.

  249. Exit716 says:

    He’s a gutless little puke.
    He soiled the organization by diving against Boston and then laughing.
    If you hate the Habs so much, cheer for the Avalanche or the Pens.

  250. Ali says:

    i agree with that we should have gotten more then Janne “The Guarantee” Niinimaa for him, but the responsibility for that lies elsewhere.

  251. JB_15 says:

    Absolutely it would have been better to play Huet. You do not take the ostensible face of the franchise in his first year and put him up against an offense like Dallas when the habs are playing back to back games. This is an ideal way for Price to get down on himself. If youre going to leave anyone out to dry, let it be the “bonafide” number 1 that Huet is supposed to be, not the guy that you have to be very careful about teaching and nurturing. If huet is our go-to guy, he should be the one bearing the brunt of the load, and ergo, the one exposed to a high flying team like dallas. If nothing less, do it to protect Price.

  252. JB_15 says:

    I could not disagree with you more. See my post below. If you think Price’s confidence being shaken is an artificial issue I storngly suggest you reconsider the impact that a 4-0 drubbing has on a first year goaltender in Montreal with the amount of pressure felt by the players. If you know youre going to get thumped, don’t throw your young stud in the line of fire, that’s just dumb.

  253. Ali says:

    there are different types of leadership. Is Saku the type of guy who will scream and break sticks and make memorable speeches? No, but does he give 100% every night? Yes. Does he leave his heart on the ice? Yes. It is a failure in management that they have not surrounded him with the right players. All that needs to be said is that when we had Recchi, and Corson, they were among the best lines in the league.

    Ribeiro said in the interview I saw, while Koivu was leading Finland to the gold medal game in Turin, that it was sad that he was more of a leader for Finland then with the Habs. That is ridiculous, its the difference of having Teemu Selanne and Lehtinen on your wing, and not a rookie coach behind the bench, who understands the strenghts and weaknesses of the team and can exploit them.

  254. Yeats says:

    Yea, just like Claude Lemieux. And, we know what happened to him. He just went on to win three more Stanley Cups and a Conn Smythe with the Devils. People also forget that his ten goals in the ’86 Finals placed him second for MVP behind Roy.

  255. the_vipah says:

    Frankly I could give a shit what he said. He can score, he sets up other players and I’ve seen quite a few games this year, he puts in his fair share of effort.

    Finally he was worth more then nothing and that was my point originally. He is a better player right now, for dallas, then anyone we have on this team.

  256. RS says:

    An offence like Dallas?!? Before tonight, the Stars had 105 goals in 36 games, the Habs had 102 goals in 35 games. If the Stars are an offensive juggernaut, I guess the Habs are too. Well, no.

    Carbo wasn’t exactly throwing Price in front of the 80s Oilers.

  257. Ali says:

    again, because in Dallas he isnt a walking God, just because hes a francophone. He had to earn his ice-time, because the fans wont go loopy if he doesn’t play. And if you don’t care what he said, you dont understand how the dyanmic of a locker room can be affected by things like that. Next time he was hit late, who would stick up for a guy like that? I wouldn’t.

  258. the_vipah says:

    Heh again tough to disagree.

    People want these squeeky clean players who never get dirty or say the wrong things to lead the Habs to a cup with class alone.

    Sorry but there aren’t 20+ Jean Beliveau’s in the league that want to play just for us.

  259. Ali says:

    if Mike Ribeiro is the solution to this teams problems, then we are in huge trouble.

  260. the_vipah says:

    Getting value for the good players we trade away is the solution.

  261. Ali says:

    i never disagreed with that. We should have gotten more for him, but i dont miss him.

  262. Girth says:

    Yeah, that was weird!

    he just stood there like a deer in the headlights.

  263. doug says:

    what happened?

  264. Ali says:

    they were interviewing Kirk, when it was over he didn’t leave, so the camera man panicked and just zoomed in on the RDS guy, squeezing kirk out of the frame.

  265. Girth says:

    Just some really drunk camera guy…

    Kirk stood 1/2 in the frame for a few seconds, and the camera operator tried to slowly pan away… like no one would notice.

  266. doug says:

    was probably his daughter, mrs. morrow.

  267. Yeats says:

    Let’s start now gang:

    Gotta come to play.
    Gotta keep up our intensity.
    Gotta go hard to the net.
    Gotta keep them from going hard to our net.
    Got away from The System.
    Stayed with the Sytem for too long.
    Gotta take more shots.
    Gotta stop more shots.
    Veterans have to leader.
    Leaders have to vet…….

    Just plain awful.

  268. Barts says:

    This team is pathetic. Absolutely no character, and no leadership. Captain K is MIA again, and our fourth line features a forechecking five foot nothing defenceman at forward. How many times are we going to have to sit through the same old crap game in and game out?

  269. sidhu says:

    Gainey needs to make some calls after the Festivus trade freeze ends

  270. Girth says:

    AT this pace we finish the game with about 16 shots…

    we already have 13…

    so… that leaves 3… let’s say we score on all three shots…

  271. Yeats says:

    You know, the Habs aint’s half bad for an ECHL team!

  272. ebk says:

    you keep talking like that and they will revoke your summit pass for next year

  273. Bill says:

    What a spanking. Ribeiro’s revenge.


  274. doug says:

    I think we all know how I feel about the Ribeiro trade. . . but I’m not happy to feel validated by his play.

    Having said that, and as long as we’re all wasting our time here. . . my two cents on the nhl.

    a. parity is here.
    b. this is partly due to the three point rule which clusters all the teams together.
    c. NO TEAM in the eastern conference has gone through this campaign without a huge slump and a ton of inconsistency, save for Ottawa who had a huge slump but have otherwise been consistent for the most part.
    d. it’s going to come down to the six or seven teams fighting for three or four spots
    e. the streaky team at the end will make the playoffs
    f. the habs will be good in the playoffs if they can make it somehow, and they’re no worse than anyone else. maybe not better, but not worse, either. i think if we were cheering for any team other than ottawa we’d be ticked off and annoyed.

    so, as a consequence of a-f, i’m not concerned about this year. and i DO think we have some of the best talent. so as long as we don’t trade away ryder for nothing, give up on others and make a panic mood, or drive gainey away, we’ll be okay in two years which is all we wanted. and if we DO miss the playoffs, the great thing is that carbo the crappy will be on thinner ice.

  275. Blitzen says:

    Thank you.

    They’re in the midst of a brutal road trip – a point the RDS folks were making on and on at the beginning of the trip but which they seem to have forgotten now – and we have had 3 out of 6 points so far. Not bad. Let’s see what they do after christmas.

    Anybody think the Ribeiro performance will make Bob think twice about trading Ryder?

  276. Ed says:

    Mike Boone
    “3P 19:17:

    I love the guy, but Christopher Higgins is in a bit of a funk.”

    Who are we going to blame? It must be Ryder’s fault.

  277. Girth says:

    He has no shots tonight, AGAIN!

  278. doug says:

    Just wait, Ed. We’ll find a new scapegoat. It was Damphousse once, it was Craig Ludwig who played a solid decade more, it was Carbonneau the player, it was Shayne Corson round one, it was Stephane Richer, it is Koivu, it is Ryder, it was Samsonov, it was Kovalev . . .

    We’ll find someone.

  279. Chuck says:

    Dont worry Yeats, I’ll bring you as my guest. Keep telling it like it is!

    “Vote Saku for All-Star… or little Timmy gets it!!!”

  280. Yeats says:

    Didn’t you hear? The 2008 Summit is going to be in Cincinnatti!

  281. Girth says:

    Quoting Ribiero:

    “There’s no media, nobody stopping me at the grocery. There’s pressure to
    win, but only in the dressing room, not outside”.

    So… with that logic… it’s the fans and media that makes it impossible to manage a successful team here.

    Well seems the heat was too much to Mikey… so he got out of the kitchen.

    The ironic thing is that he may be right… at least for one night.

  282. Ed says:

    He did not get out of the kitchen on his own. He was tossed out. He wanted to stay in Montreal, & was disappointed that he was traded.

  283. Chuck says:

    I just wish that we hadn’t allowed Turco to start his Christmas holiday early.


    “Vote Saku for All-Star… or little Timmy gets it!!!”

  284. Ed says:

    It must be the December 23 Jinx.

  285. Billy says:

    Can Carbo, Muller and Jarvis lace them up? This is embarassing. bright side. we did kill 5 powerplays. markov hot the post early. and that lantadresse check was a killer.

  286. sidhu says:

    Thankfully, no shut-out. Nice pass by Sergei.

  287. showey47 says:

    is that 4 points in 5 or 6 games for sergei?

  288. doug says:

    Here comes the SKots is God talk (albeit less lively given that we’re way down).

    If he manages to score 20 two years in a row then he’ll be Higgins in three and will be expendable to some. . . if he does 30 a couple of time he should be in the pressbox replacing the spot that Ryder sat in back in 2007-2008

  289. JB_15 says:

    Mike: “The leafs would not let themselves get smoked like this”

    Did you not see the 5-0 thumping the Phoenix Coyotes (not the dallas stars) handed Toronto at home on national television? Talk about embarassing.

  290. Exit716 says:

    That Ribeiro trade will haunt Gainey for the rest of his career.

    Well unless you figure that Bob gave up Iginla for Nieuwendyk when he could have let the Flames have the immortal Todd Harvey instead.

  291. Blitzen says:

    Dear Lord…why do you even watch the games if it kills you that much? Why post here? Is this some sort of therapy?

  292. Ian Cobb says:

    I still think the best hockey played today are the Juniors.

    Boxing day 1:30 TSN, There hungry and they compeat every shift.

    We are playing against the team tonight that B.G. built.

  293. ebk says:

    hard to rag on him for that trade, it was a big part in why the Stars won the Cup.

    And you then need to rag on the Calgary GM, who wanted Harvey instead of Iginla

  294. Ed says:

    At least the Event Summary favours Montreal. It currently shows them a collective +5, while Dallas are -5. Unfortunately, we all know that this is not correct, & will change.

  295. Chuck says:

    Somehow, on his deathbed, I don’t think that Gainey’s last words will be “Damn that Ribeiro!”

    “Vote Saku for All-Star… or little Timmy gets it!!!”

  296. Y says:

    WOOT! No blanchisage for Turkey
    Saves me from losing a point in my Yahoo! fantasy matchup

  297. doug says:

    or the 7-1 loss to Carolina in early October, the 7-1 loss to WASHINGTON in late October, the 5-1 loss to Phoenix around American Thanksgiving (believe they scored a late goal), some other big losses to Ottawa I think. I’m not jealous of Toronto of all things.

  298. Yeats says:

    You have to watch more NCAA D-1 Ian. The guys are generally older and, in my opinion, much better coached than those in Major Junior.

  299. Mattee. says:

    soo hmm… the curse lives on. I guess this means we should just pack it in and try again in October? Maybe next year i’ll just skip the first half of the season and drop in on Dec. 23rd.

    Wow, that sounded oddly depressing. I don’t mean it, I’ll be here thursday, I just love watching my pride and joy get beat down 3 out of 5 games.

  300. Chuck says:

    We enjoy sticking sharp things in our eyes.

    “Vote Saku for All-Star… or little Timmy gets it!!!”

  301. Yeats says:

    Not as punchy as “Rosebud.”

  302. JB_15 says:

    Makes me so mad that a team this talented plays in Dallas. A market where half the seats are empty by the end of the game when they kick the **** out of another team. It’s so unfair. At the Bell center the place would be jammed and the fans would be screaming. In Dallas it’s like “is it over? What was the score? how many touchdowns did we get?”

  303. sidhu says:

    Well that was disappointing. Happy Festivus everyone.

  304. Girth says:

    A festivus for the rest of us…

    And now for the airing of grievances!

  305. Chuck says:

    Once again, Santa Claus proves himself to not be a Canadiens fan.


    “Vote Saku for All-Star… or little Timmy gets it!!!”

  306. Ali says:

    well that blows.

    Anyway, I wanted to wish you all a safe and joyous Christmas and a Happy New Year!

  307. RS says:

    After that poor effort, I’m sorry, but we’re going to have to cancel Christmas.

  308. Girth says:

    You forgot where’s jessica?

  309. Chuck says:

    If Carbo has any balls, he’ll be having the team doing suicide sprints early Christmas morning. They certainlty earned them tonight!


    “Vote Saku for All-Star… or little Timmy gets it!!!”

  310. Mattee. says:

    where’s Jessica? She mighta kept me awake…

  311. Erik says:

    What the f#@! did Higgins do these last two games…. haha all that forty goal scorer talk and he plays like this WOW.

    You know what I’d like to see with this team Some PROGRESS yup I’m lookin at you Gainey!

  312. Ian Cobb says:

    Brian, I know its good hockey, i just never get any of those with this cable set up we have here. We get only the jr. games and nhl here. I realy meant to say that i’m enjoying the jr games more than the nhl.

    Followed the Maine Black Bears when i was ranching in bew Brunswick.

  313. Mattee. says:

    Ya, and if anyone keeps this up, they’re going to lose new years too.

  314. JB_15 says:

    I did see a girl in a pink dallas stars shirt but I think she was about 5.

  315. Ian Cobb says:

    sorry thats New Brunswick for the New Yorker

  316. doug says:

    merry christmas, erik. may you get that prozac you asked for.

  317. Yeats says:

    I thought you wrote Brew,Ian. So I headed off for one. After that effort, I may need six high-octane Belgians to erase my memory!

  318. Yeats says:

    Good team to watch Maine. Their program was built by a local fellow. The late Sean Walsh was from White Plains, NY about 10 miles from where I live.

  319. Erik says:

    I dont know that you should be happy about losing!

  320. Ian Cobb says:

    I do get TSN Timo, Only problem is i’m on the black out line between Ottawa and T.O. teritory

  321. doug says:

    i’m not happy. nor am i suggesting that the world has come to an end.

    it helps to have some perspective.

  322. Ian Cobb says:

    Maybe he can apply, i hear there might be openings in canada comming up

  323. Exit716 says:

    Yeah, but you follow up that trade with the #5 pick in the draft and take Rick “I love the tax free haven of Switzerland” Jackman?

  324. Exit716 says:

    Ooh never mind about that Jackman comment. that 1996 draft was pure garbage.

  325. The Teacher says:

    Yeah, the younger looks so much more polished and has more hockey sense than the older.

  326. Chuck says:

    No, it won’t. A player that does nothing for you, regardless of how successful he is in another city, is still worthless. Let him walk, save the cap space, and spend it on something better.

    “Vote Saku for All-Star… or little Timmy gets it!!!”

  327. JB_15 says:

    Personally I vote for Ryder. He was invisible out there tonight.

  328. Yeats says:

    I take 22 pairs of nads first!

  329. Girth says:

    You’re right… I remember.

    What I was facetiously trying to say was that his statements are made in hindsight… so, in essence what he is saying(perhaps what I’m hearing), is that it could have been the best thing that happened to him and that perhaps deep down… he welcomed the trade. Even though he was outwardly upset at the thought of leaving his home town.

  330. NLhabsfan says:

    Gee Carbo can’t bench Ryder…WHO does he blame.Perhaps look at himself.

  331. ebk says:

    its still Ryder’s fault. Come on now.

  332. The Teacher says:

    yawn yawn yawn

  333. Ed says:

    Guess who the 1st star was – Mike Ribeiro. Mike Boone mentioned that we will be playing Boston on December 23, 2008. Maybe Michael Ryder will be reunited with Julien by then.

  334. Y says:

    That’s an IF
    No one knows next year’s schedule!

  335. Exit716 says:

    That was a joke.
    The schedule isn’t set that far ahead.
    Besides the Gardens in Boston might be booked for a dog show or something else that is more popular in the US major markets compared to hockey…but shhhhh don’t tell Bettman it would ruin his Christmas except I think he celebrates Hannukah.

  336. NLhabsfan says:

    If they are going to trade Ryder he will haunt us fo a good while.

  337. Yeats says:

    We can rag on it all we want, but mark my words: 2008 will be the Year of The System!

  338. The Teacher says:

    Well, Higgins has stunk for a few games now..where’s the criticism of him?

  339. Yeats says:

    He has hands of stone and, to make matters worse, doesn’t pass to open men in better scoring position. How am I doing?

  340. doug says:

    trade him! package him with ryder and the recently lousy a. kostitsyn. throw in the wasteful huet. don’t ask for anything in return; we can use the cap space for a big UFA signing.

  341. Aaron13 says:

    Glad to see Ribiero stick it to the Habs. He’s not the marginal player everyone thought he was, not with 19 goals.

    “Trust your car to the man who wears the Star” – Stalin

  342. Yeats says:

    Another gem from Uncle Joe: “For some people, four walls are three too many.”

  343. Ed says:

    Even if Ryder is traded, he still becomes a UFA after this season, & may decide to go with Boston, if they want him. Claude Julien was always a big supporter of his, & coached him in the Quebec Major Junior League, in the AHL, & in Montreal. Under Julien, he was a +10 in his rookie season, & played his best hockey for him. Julien is a good coach, & is proving it again in Boston this year.

  344. The Teacher says:

    Not too shabby! especially on the passing part..man…look around!!!

  345. Yeats says:

    When he gets the puck in the offensive zone, he turns into Seabiscuit!

  346. doug says:

    how about craig rivet? he was a pylon out there tonight!

  347. The Teacher says:

    Welcome to montreal..

    In his defence, he IS a rookie..and his team didn’t put out a great effort in front of him.

  348. doug says:

    We needed to play Price in case we went to the shootout. God you’re shortsighted.

  349. Yeats says:

    The real problem on both nights was the same: the Habs can’t score worth a damn. I have far more sympathy for Huet though. If he can hold the opposition to two goals or less, our forwards have to do their jobs and bury three. Yes, he’s weak on shootouts, but it should never have gotten that far. Price was just as doomed as doomed could be tonight.

  350. Chuck says:

    Two of the goals against him were no-chance tip-ins, and we only scored one all night. So your criticism of Price is…?

    “Vote Saku for All-Star… or little Timmy gets it!!!”

  351. The Teacher says:


  352. Chuck says:

    Time to drink myself silly…


    “Vote Saku for All-Star… or little Timmy gets it!!!”

  353. Exit716 says:

    Beat you to it…But had the sense to quit after period one. Umm watching the game I mean….

  354. Yeats says:

    When I drink alone, I prefer to be by myself.

  355. Ian Cobb says:

    Hi Chuck, have not talked at you in some time, but I’ve been reading your posts. Have a nice festive! IAN

  356. Chuck says:

    Ian, be sure to enjoy the holiday season (this game notwithstanding!) and may all of the best be headed your way in the new year!

    “Vote Saku for All-Star… or little Timmy gets it!!!”

  357. Girth says:

    Quoting Ribiero: (AGAIN)
    “There’s no media, nobody stopping me at the grocery. There’s still pressure to win, but only in the dressing room, not outside”.

    I understand these statements are made in hindsight, however, I believe the essence what he is saying(perhaps what I’m hearing), is that the trade could have been the best thing that happened to him and that perhaps deep down… he welcomed the trade. Even though he was outwardly upset at the thought of leaving his home town.

    So… with that logic… it’s the fans and media that make it difficult to manage a successful team or career here.

    Is it really our fault?
    If so, what can we do to help? … or stop doing!

  358. doug says:

    i think we’ve been too hard on the players, who can just leave. we should threaten their families and say that if they leave and perform better elsewhere there’ll be consequences.

  359. Girth says:


    Make em an offer they can’t refuse… I like it!

  360. Yeats says:

    Look on the bright side, the Habs may not be all that entertaining, but at least we are!

  361. Exit716 says:

    Dress as an empty seat.
    Sorry this trade smells of a Gillet-Hicks side deal.
    They have other business interests outside of sports and this stinks to high heaven.
    How convenient.
    A decent young asset traded for a broken down expensive vet.
    Was our GM an employee of the other team?
    Are the pro scouts in the team’s employ that stupid?

  362. Ed says:

    The Event Summary is now updated, & Hamrlik, who has been our best plus player all year, was -4. Coach will have to straighten him out on the system. O’Byrne was -3 (poor rookie might be benched again), the Kostitsyn brothers were -2, Plekanec -2, and several with -1. Markov at +1, was the only plus player.

    Nine players had nil shots. They are like Ryder, & are forgetting how to shoot. I wonder who Carbonneau will call out for this game. He always blames Price, so that’s a given. I will have to wait for the rest.

  363. Exit716 says:

    That only works in Russia.

  364. Uwey says:

    I blame the coaching & would can the works of them especially Rollie Melanson!!!

    Carboneau & Muller are in over their heads with this team & it seems the game has passed by Dougie Jarvis. Don Lever did more in one season with the Bulldogs than Jarvis could at all!!!

    As for Melanson both Huet & Abby started off hot last season & went into the tank. He did absolutely nothin for Theodore’s career upon his arrival & he seems to have the Kid going down on his kness way too early as well!!!

    It’s a common theme with Montreal goaltenders since Melanson has been coaching them, they are all going down into the butterfly too early.

    Give the works of them the boot & start from scratch!!!

    Don Lever knows many of these players, Brian Sutter has been a positive with evry team he has ever coached, Pat Burns(????) or maybe even Bob Hartley, he won a Cup with the Avs & was originally in the Habs organization!!!

  365. Girth says:

    Sure… it’s not hard to put a plausible scenario that suggests that this trade was tainted somehow.

    Besides, I’m sure Mr. Gillet is perfectly happy with HABS performance…

    The financial performance that is.

  366. Girth says:

    Could we trade for Poutin?

  367. Erik says:

    Hey Carbo how about a long ice time on Christmas day!

  368. Girth says:

    LOL … Right! I spent more time reading than watching…

  369. doug says:

    my only keeper would be melanson. . . who i think is better than you give credit for. . .

    as for the other coaches, only burns or hartley are okay. . . lever too fast and unproven and i think sutter sucks.

  370. doug says:

    … and i spent more time writing than reading OR watching.

    ah, the life of the narcissist.

  371. doug says:

    Erik – i think he’s married but best of luck with your request. Sounds romantic.

  372. sidhu says:

    Bruce Boudreau coached the Hershey Bears last year (the team that Hamilton beat in the Calder Cup finals). Boudreau has done a wonderful job with the Caps since he took over for the team (just look at how Washington outplayed us on Thursday).

    If Carbo is axed, I think Lever deserves a shot with the big club.

  373. Uwey says:

    IMO, Ribeiro’s problem in Montreal was the same problem he had throughout his junior career in the Q. He was touted as a “The Francophone Star” a role he relished & played to the extreme. He was given a title long before he earned & felt there was no reason to have to work to get what he wanted. In junior hockey your skill will override work ethic & attitude, but that doesn’t happen in the NHL. I truly believe Mikie Ribs realized once he was no longer the center of attention that he had to put some effort into his game to go along with extraordinary skill to stay in the league & as someone else said, being traded out of Montreal was probably the best thing for him & his career. Had he stayed in Montreal celebrity status would have overode work ethic for him!!!

  374. doug says:

    we tried that and gave up on julien (in my opinion, prematurely and unfairly). . . not going to happen any time soon.

  375. Uwey says:

    Show/tell me what Melanson has done with the Habs goaltending to make a positive impact on any of them???

  376. doug says:

    huet has improved and been surprisingly great, leading the league in save percentage two years ago, third this year, and at the lead at the all-star break (when he was chosen for the team) last year despite little knowledge of him prior to his arrival here.

    halak came in and was great last year.

    price – too early to tell.

    tell me what he’s done so poorly? theodore sucked once traded and is only now partly regaining his form despite a new goaltending coach and great success from the guy he now essentially backs up under that team’s goaltending coach.

  377. mjames says:

    A few observations which the earlier posts have already addressed in one form or another.

    I wanted us to take it to Dallas not the other way around. It is discouraging to see every team take it to us while we sit back and let the opponent skate into our zone unmolested. I can live with mistakes and give aways but this passive style does irritate me to no end. We will never win like that.

    Another thing I noticed tonight is that our team had no will to win. We were going through the motions. I am not pointing fingers at anyone just making an observation. We were pushed off the puck in every instance. Dallas was laughing us . If I was a Hab player I would not be pleased with that display.

    I really don’t care whether Riberio stuck it to us or not. I just hope that if we do make a trade we get something in return. I do not like giving players away. I hope Gainey, if and when he trades someone, gets something in return. I do not want to give up on our younger players no matter how many mistakes and give aways they make.


  378. mjames says:

    I live in CT so I have never bothered Ribs when he shopped at Stu Leonards. I can’t help. What I could do is stop posting . That unfortunately would only help the poster’s on HIO and not the Hab players.


  379. mjames says:

    The old conspriacy theory. I love it. I do recall a Stars fan posting on HIO last year just after the Ribs. I remember him stating that in his view we had been taken because Ninnima was washed.


  380. Mike Boone says:

    The “Francophone Star” is Portuguese-Canadian. Ribeiro speaks French because he grew up in Plateau Mont-Royal and played in the Q. Like “Michel” Bossy, who’s Ukrainian.

  381. MICP says:

    Its hard to think that a team being coached by so many past players that were so good on D is having this much trouble with the pk.
    Why so many O zone penalties?
    They happen over and over.

    I just dont get it

  382. Bouleau noir says:

    Dallas was quite a success in the old cluch and grab hochey era and was also one of the previleged big spender in the preCap era,… they werent modelled to make a nice and smooth transition in the newNHL,… I am totally amazed on how well adapted their game is for the newNHL but even more so at the little time it tooked them to get there.

    They practically have a no name roster and most Montrealer would think that any team having a listless top line with Ribeiro on it as their center would be in deep trouble,… yet this team showed us how hochey is supposed to be played, they were entertaining, fast, cohesive, displayed exemplary execution and were lethal all the same,… like the Red Wings,.. they toyed with us and did with poise and flash.

    The Dallas organization had to changed their phylosophy and strategy in order to get there and I doubt that it would have happen had they kept their old school boy of the previous era,… Gainey, Jarvis and Carbo.

    The central focus now in Dallas is puck possession and the top lines are encouraged to take offensive chances without getting crucified when turning the puck over do occur,… this is the reason why Ribeiro’s talent are now in full display…. this approach, phylosophy and system is required for skilfull and creative players to shine….. and have their team succeed in the newNHL.

  383. Frank2468 says:

    What really gets me is the lack of effort and intensity. If they would play with effort and intensity and still loose it won’t be as bad at least the effort would be there. They looked like they started the Christmas break early tonight. I wish they would have told Carbo and the coaching staff and Dallas that they are breaking early for vacation. This way the 2 points could have been given to the Stars and no ones time would have been wasted tonight watching that load of &*^$. My feeling is that this team is gutless and heartless they have to many Europeans on the team and to many Europeans on any team equals gutless and heartless. Lets look at the team of the 70’s and from 1986 and 1993. There were not many Europeans on those teams and they had success. If you want to compete and have success heart and guts you need Canadian born men to be the majority on your team not European boys.

  384. Blitzen says:

    The thing that worries me now is that Carbo will think he’s justified in putting BreezeBy back in there. And then Smokes.

  385. G-Man says:

    It was December 23rd,
    and all through the rink,
    the Habs were playing s**t hockey,
    and man did they stink.

    The Stars crossed the opposition blue line with flair,
    While the Habs D let them by with nary a care.
    What was worse, and downright scary
    Was the play of the goalie named Carey.

    Mickey Ribs crossed the line,
    slow as a tortoise,
    But not one D man touched him,
    Not even O’Byrne the rhinocerus,

    When all was done and said,
    The Stars had 4 times seen red,
    While I, too pissed off at those 3 colours I bled,
    Shouted out, “Hellfire!” and went to my bed.

    Merry Christmas Habs fans, and to all a Happy New Year!



  386. Aaron13 says:

    Well, you should care that Ribiero stuck it to the Habs. Another bad trade, and a poor system. There are a lot of teams with lesser talent yet higher in their caliber of play.

    Carbs looked as if was in a Purple Haze. His players were in the game, but he wasn’t.

    1) You can’t stop the opposition from attacking with one Hab inside the opponents blue line. The Sens always have 2 inside the blue line.

    2) Don’t blame the players. Kovalev handles the puck like a wizard, looks around, and sees no one to pass to. Same applies to Koivu or Higgins. Clearly, a bad system.

    Best wishes to all this Holiday Season.

    “Trust your car to the man who wears the Star” – Stalin

  387. Aaron13 says:

    Well, you should care that Ribiero stuck it to the Habs. Another bad trade, and a poor system. There are a lot of teams with lesser talent yet higher in their caliber of play.

    Carbs looked as if was in a Purple Haze. His players were in the game, but he wasn’t.

    1) You can’t stop the opposition from attacking with one Hab inside the opponents blue line. The Sens always have 2 inside the blue line.

    2) Don’t blame the players. Kovalev handles the puck like a wizard, looks around, and sees no one to pass to. Same applies to Koivu or Higgins. Clearly, a bad system.

    Best wishes to all this Holiday Season.

    “Trust your car to the man who wears the Star” – Stalin

  388. New says:

    I thought Riberio played a good game, his game. I remember him doing that when he was with Montreal, until the going got tough or the game was important, when he disappeared. If the Habs had shown up, and put a little shoulder to the wheel, like Kovy did, the Mikey would have faded away.

    I don’t think second guessing the trade is worthwhile. The thing is most fans were glad to see Ribs go, and not very many were happy with the return Montreal got. Me, not having any idea how it works, I sense enough was enough with Riberio. They were going to get rid of him, and got something they thought they could use for him. Look at Samsonov, they had to pay someone to take him.

    Anyhow, best of the season, some really interesting comments here.

  389. Bill says:

    The thing that worries me now is that he would be justified in putting BreezBy back in there.


  390. Bill says:

    Frank, Don Cherry called, he wants his soul back.


  391. nightmare_49 says:

    After going thru the motions a little something off topic > P.K.Suban..http://www.thestar.com/Sports/article/288399

  392. howtathor says:

    It was sick to watch Mikey Ribs tear up the Canadiens last night but wasn’t it fitting revenge in a sense that the Habs gave this kid up for nothing really (a lame defenceman).
    That’s not my point though. Montreal is the worst place for a local kid to be a high draft pick. The expectations of the fans and the media leads the organization to make some baffling choices. In Ribeiro’s case he made the team out of junior (a la Gui) and was not allowed the time to develop properly and was unceremoniously shipped off to Dallas. In Gui’s credit, he has been playing well of late but he should have had the time to develop in Hamilton as well. Look at Higgins and Komisarek! I just hope that Carey Price is not being force fed to the lions due to the high expectations of the fans and media alike. Bob Gainey of all being should not be one to succumb to this pressure.

  393. vic says:

    There is more of a problem with this team from the inside.How does it play a fast game one night and then die the next.What goes on inside to take away the motivation .criticism no praise . I dont know but something is killing the spirit on this team and Gainey better get on it quick or the team will be finished for a long time.

  394. JB_15 says:

    Has anyone considered the option that dallas is just a much better team than us, and would have probably won even if we didnt play as poorly as we did?

    Sometimes you just run into a better club me thinks.

  395. mjames says:

    Your post is like the Habs season. It starts out fine and then falls on its face with your mad raving about the Euro players.


  396. mjames says:



  397. Frank2468 says:

    Well maybe growing up in the 70’s and being a young adult in the 80’s and 90’s has spoiled me with the success of the franchise. Maybe I should lower my expectations and be happy with a mediocre team, as both Mjames and Bill seem to be. Lets look at team Canada’s success in international play. Don’t see any Euros there. We seem to be out playing most of the other teams. That is the point, growing up in Canada seems to elevate a players level with the idea of playing for the Habs or the international team. There seems to be a sense of pride and going that extra mile. Why not try making up the team with about 70 percent Canadian and the rest a mix as apposed to being a 50/50 split. I remember one interview with latendresse in between periods and his remark was “Well we need to remember what crest we have on our chest and what that means”. Seems like a remark from someone growing up as a boy in Canada and his love for a team. And for more info I had the pleasure of knowing Dan Daoust. Who was drafted by the Canadians and was traded to keep Carbo, because they only needed one defensive forward at the time. I was talking to him one night before a game and was telling me how disappointed he was being traded. He was almost in tears when talking about the trade. He told me that when he was drafted by the Habs he was in seventh heaven, being drafted by the team he watched and loved growing up. He was never the same after that and that’s my point. Look at Ryan Smyth once from the Oilers. I’m not saying the European players are not any good it just seems to be the passion to go that extra mile doesn’t seems to be there. You have to remember that hockey is not the number one sport in Europe it’s soccer and now talk to some one in Europe about soccer and see what kind of passion comes out in the conversation. It would seem that the only European player the Habs have that has some kind of passion is Koivu. Yes yes Kovalev is talented, but he seems to have only two gears fast and neutral. Look at what all the commentators say about him. They say he is very skilled and talented and if he showed up every night to play he’d be dangerous. Ah that’s it, that’s how the Habs are playing. Maybe we should change the name of the franchise from The Montreal Canadians to The Kovalev Canadians.

  398. Yeats says:

    Great post. I have followed the Habs from NYC ever since I became interested in the sport in the late 1960’s. We have indeed been spoiled by the success that the franchise has had over the years most notably the dynasties of the late ’50s, late ’60 and pretty much the whole decade of the ’70s. The runs that I enjoyed the most, however, were those of ’71, ’86 and ’93 when we weren’t supposed to do it. The planets aligned, we were backstopped by a fabulous goaltender, and it just came together like a puzzle. I long for a season like those. I thought that we were on the verge of attaining critical momentum in the last two series against the ‘canes, but Therrien’s meltdown and Justin Williams’ near blinding of Koivu stopped us dead in our tracks. I think if we could just put together a decent run, the current crop of players would once and for all find out what a treat it it to play hockey in Montreal when you’re winning. It has to be one hell of a rush. Maybe then they would understand how really special it is to wear that Crest.

  399. The Teacher says:

    We’ve been discussing this topic on Boone’s blog as well, feel free to check it out and comment :)

  400. The Teacher says:

    Bang on Yeats. couldn’t have said it better myself.

  401. sidhu says:

    Yeah, with nobody else

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