Quick Hits

I’d love to post some interesting stuff about the latest embarrassment, but you saw what I saw.

So I’ll just toss out a few observations and then enjoy the therapeutic benefits of some fine, soothing music.

Here’s the whole steaming, stinking coiled mess in a nutshell:

The best player on the Montreal Canadiens has been yanked in his last three road games.

You saw the stats Tweeted during the game: Over three road starts, Price has faced 71 shots and allowed 14 goals. His GAA is 8.23, with a save percentage of 80.3.

The Canadiens have a two-point lead on the Rangers and Sabres, each of whom has a game in hand.

There are four games left, three of which are on the road: New Jersey on Saturday, Ottawa and – gulp! – Toronto next week.

The one remaining home game is against the defending Stanley Cup champions, who are in their own dog fight in the Western Conference.

It is conceivable that the Canadiens will skate out onto the ice of the Air Canada Centre on April 9 with their playoff fate in the balance.

And let’s say they make the playoffs. The first two games would be on the road against one of the top-seeded teams.

Anyone expecting another miracle spring?

Anyone foresee Carey Price pulling a Jaro Halak through April and into May?

When the Canadiens won the seventh game of their opening-round series against heavily-favoured Washington  last April, these were the defencemen playing in front of Halak: Andrei Markov, Josh Gorges, Ryan O’Byrne, Roman Hamrlik, Hal Gill, P.K. Subban and, strictly on the PP, Marc-André Bergeron.

If the Canadiens make the playoffs, Carey Price will play behind … well, you know the names.

The Canadiens have two Dmen capable of moving the puck and/or making accurate first passes: Subban and James Wisniewski.

The rest of the defence corps is slow. Which means puck support by the forwards is absolutely essential.

And that’s what we saw against Atlanta at the Bell Centre. But the Hurricanes are not the Thrashers.

On L’Antichambre, Gaston Therrien broke down a sequence that epitomized the Canadiens’ zone play. In one sequence, Tomas Plekanec, Mike Cammalleri and Hal Gill made defensive errors. There was no intensity, no commitment, no hard work.

And these were veterans.

Lars Eller made one error and that was it. Jacques Martin nailed the kid to the bench a little over two minutes into the second period.

Eller’s stats: six shifts, 4:01 ToI, minus-1.

Trailing 4-2 midway through the third period, Martin shortened his bench to three lines: Plekanec centring Andrei Kostitsyn and Mike Cammalleri, Scott Gomez and Brian Gionta with latest LW Benoit Pouliot and – wait for this one, in a two-goal game – Halpern, Mathieu Darche and Travis Moen.

This sums up the Canadiens’ no-show: EVERY SKATER, except Jeff Halpern, was a minus on the night.

Vintage yecch!

Martin F. on Saturday.

In his barn.

Can’t wait.


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  2. habsnyc says:

    Gainey told Gomez to shoot more. Gomez has a shooting percentage roughly one third that of the typical first line forward in the NHL. his shooting percentage is below that of fourth line guys like George Parros, Georges Laraque or Trevor Gillies. the league knows Gomez cannot put the puck in the net, so he needs to create for his linemates.

    Other All-Stars who would pass first shoot later like Oates, Weight or Gilmour were much more effective than Gomez because their shooting percentages were as high as some snipers. so the defense had to respect the pass and the shot. for Gomez they only have to respect the pass.

    in my opinion, the league has figured out Gomez and Gainey’s advice will not help.

  3. RetroMikey says:

    Somehow, the management, coaches, and the team have to sit down and see what is going wrong in the past 7 games where we lost 5 of those games and look in the mirror and say “are we really a playoff team?”
    I’ll say it again and again, the team is not going to get better next season and for seasons to come. Bobby blew ship last season, and his experiment succeeded in the playoffs but not long term when signing big contracts to our 4 smurfs and some over the hill DMen.
    It’s going to show in the playoffs, if we make it….a first round exit.
    The 25th Cup will have to wait for a long time in Montreal.
    I don’t like where we are heading and I don’t want to hear about another rebuilding plan with our club.
    So, when is the next Cup coming to Montreal? I say 2022.

    “We will win the Cup one day only with ? in the nets “

  4. SHUTTemDOWN says:

    You said it Boone…
    If they do make it in and face the Bs or Phees,
    They can take the summer to seeth/recover from the psych trauma that they will undoubtedly suffer.
    And NO, Carey will not pull a Halak, nor should he.
    Halak had much to prove last year- personally and to the team.
    And look what he got; a phat contract in another city.
    He saved JM’s ass and inspired his teamates…but Carey is our golden boy, or thanks to his current teamates-whipping boy.
    How a team can slide at this time, only to know what awaits their fate w/ afformentioned 1or2, is either:
    1. they will pull offf what would be even larger odds by beating Phee/Bee and ride that high
    2. Suffer the slaughter AGAIN from either of these foes and take years to re-tool.
    3. TANK the year, miss the playoffs, and send them all to ICU.
    I go for the latter, enough suffering.

    “The sh*t is CHESS!NOT CHECKERS.” Denzel W.(Training Day)

  5. VintageFan says:

    Can anybody say Outcoached? Again? AAAAAAAAAAAAHHH

  6. Goderichab says:

    Injuries? season too long? boredom? peed off at JM? you name it but Carey’s body language after that goal, his stare at the D., and basically the whole team dynamics sucks!
    This is not a team with desire to win. The rookies are doing what they can with their experience, but the Vets are cock sure they’ll make the play-off (8th place) and then try to make a good show of losing, once again hanging the rookies out to dry!

  7. notbigbird says:

    Can we please have a few more smug statements like, “JM has really ruined Eller, hasn’t he”?

    If he hasn’t, it sure isn’t for want of trying.

  8. HabsFansince49 says:

    After this season is over we may be told that all players with the exception of a few rookies and sophomores played injured since Xmas. How else can you explain the awful play of Plekanec, Gionta, Gomez, Cammalleri (despite goal last night) and company?
    Not to jump on the bashing Martin campaign, but it is old style punitive coaching when you bench a young player for 1 mistake and allow the above mentioned veterans to demonstrate an uncanny lack of desire and execution of passes and shots.
    As for this season, I think the Habs have a problem.

    I don’t pretend to be an expert; just a die-hard Habs fan passing my opinion

    • CanadienBoy says:

      Again Martin like to play is vets over no matters what ,in a lost like last night why not bench some vet in the 3 per.. and let the kids play ,but that ‘s again the system that’s suffocating this team

  9. observer says:

    habs beat carolina 7-2 the first of their 3 wins over that team this year BEFORE the worst habs collapse since 1969

  10. matrags says:


    • matrags says:

      Gomez 8 millon ….look at his numbers ….for Gods sake ..Boooooooooooooooooo Cammaleri …….look at his numbers ….For gods sake ..boooooooooooooooooooo ..Twenty fourth in team scoring …..for Gods sake .boooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo Pylons on defence ………..for gods sake Boooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo Not a hand raised in anger on the Patz hit .no guts .. for Gods sake…..B0000000000000000000000000000000 Best fans in Hockey taken for granted .. for gods sake ……Boooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo

  11. matraque says:

    I predicted only losses since the 0-7. So far, my prediction is pretty good. Only 1 W.

    It’s not that i don’t want them to win, it’s the way they lost in that 0-7 the problem. They lost everything in that game.

    Carey Price is tired. It’s obvious… And forget the Vézina or Hart. Not going to happen.

    Also… Seems like the JM bashing is on. Interesting, when the team wins, it’s all about the players. When they lose, it’s all about the coach. In the Habs case, it’s the opposite.

    Canadien en 5!
    Never go Full Retard

  12. observer says:

    Eller will turn out to be a real good player AFTER Martin and this old fool Gauthier are fired.

    • ManApart says:

      Don’t forget Gainey, who was the worst one in all this mess. He’s fully responsible for Gomez being here. That’s enough reason right there.

      • observer says:

        yes i hope they finally will fire gainey too – he is still there advising – i think he never left. you wont see the buffoon now showing up on your tv screen like he did at the calgary game and in the playoffs in his glory in his dufus concussed mind. i mean olde buffoon gainey.

  13. jbroderi says:

    i just hope they can figure it out in the next four games. i think there d is quite thin and it is catching up with them. they need some forwards to get on a role, as they d doesn’t shut down like last year without gorges.
    “I’ll take potent potables for 500, Alex” JB

    • observer says:

      they wont win another game this year playing like they have since pacioretty got hurt. i include the fluke in minnesota who didnt show up and the squeaker win over atlanta who was playing out the string. this team is done! gainey at least saw this before and fired the coach late – gauthier wont fire his friend and this team is going down AND SO IS GAUTHIER.

  14. HabFanSince72 says:

    Jack Martin has to go.

    yes, he outcoached Boudreau and Bylsma last year.

    yes, he has managed to keep the Habs in the playoff spots all year despite the injuries and the personal slumps.

    But his dour defensive hockey is dull, and it can never make you any better than mediocre. His coaching by punishment doesn’t work in the long run.

    His benching of Eller last night is a perfect example of his negative approach. It’s not like Eller hasn’t been trying hard and playing generally well. Why bench him after a single mistake? Especially when it results in more minutes for Pleks, who is injured.

    The bottom line is we could also be clinging to a playoff spot playing exciting hockey and developing young players like Webber, Picard, Eller and – yes – Sergei. Sure, we still watch the games because we care about the team. No one is watching for the entertainment.

  15. G-Man says:

    Have to give the finger to the one who took away the thumbs. The idea that it stifles debate and “conversation” is ludicrous. Anyone could still reply to any post. So, a big THUMBS DOWN to that loss of feature.

    2011 is the Year of the Hab (can I still say that?)

  16. HabFanSince72 says:

    How would this be as our youthful energy line?

    SK74 – Grabbo – Dagostini

    They would be on pace for over 70 goals.

    • The Cat says:

      In Montreal, theyd have 3rd or 4th line minutes, plus with the defense first, itd be a combined 20 goals or so.

      [Disclaimer]: I’m a hockey fan. I care about the habs, but probably not as much as you.

      • The Cat says:

        But to be fair, out of those 3, the only one that bothered me when he was sent off was Grabovski. You never get rid of sparkplugs.

        [Disclaimer]: I’m a hockey fan. I care about the habs, but probably not as much as you.

    • observer says:

      theyd be benched, sat in press box – like they were by the dinosaurs here – the old minds gauthier, martin and gainey. losers all who are out of step with the new YOUNG nhl.

      btw – the olde martin benched eller last night after a mistake. used eller for 4 minutes. just like he benched subban for a few games BUT old garbage like gomez it dont matter how useless he is, he is not allowed to sit him BECAUSE then it means the 2 idiots made a stupid – extremely stupid trade to acquire him and his salary!

    • observer says:

      and a youthful defense of obyrnne and mcfadden

      • HabFanSince72 says:

        1. O’Byrne has gone from a +10 after ten games to a -3 in Colorado. Also, he is older than Gorges. Not young and upcoming.

        2. You mean McDonagh.

        • observer says:

          those numbers mean nothing. markov a couple of years ago had a great year AND was minus -2. you can see with your eyes how he or any d-man or player is performing. subban is minus -7 right now – tell me he is not an exellent player and has played poorly.

          • observer says:

            youre right – mcdonagh

          • mattyboom says:

            maybe markov had some minus numbers and maybe subban has minus numbers, but they at least scored. you cant compare o’byrne to those guys. he had minus numbers and couldnt put a point up for his life. the only goals he scores are in his own net

  17. A. Berke says:

    On a previous thread Tommy B posted the following:
    “Now that the thumbs are gone, how about they give us the finger! I think the finger would say a heck of a lot more than a thumb ever could.”

    I fully concur and remember an early 70’s show (Laugh In) had an award named “Flying Fickle Finger of Fate”, maybe we should have that (with permission from show producers of course).

    I will even make a move to nominate someone whose initials are JM or SG (on second thought, why not both?)

    Ali B.

  18. A. Berke says:

    Well folks, when I left home 10 days ago for a long trip to NZ & Australia, I was very worried that I would miss watching last ten games and the playoffs. It turns out I was very lucky not to watch anything and from the looks of things if the team makes it to P-O, it’ll be the same.

    I said several times that JM does NOT coach to win but he coaches to NOT to lose. Add to this mentality (ahem “SYSTEM”) our overpaid underachiever players and VOILA!

    BTW, I was told by some cheerleaders a month or so earlier that our precious Gomer plays extraordinarily well at the end of the season and during playoffs, so you guys (and girls) must be very lucky to see him play these days!

    I hope that posters w/pink glasses are coming back to earth now for a dose of reality.

    I can’t wait for this season to end soon (and luckily I’ll still be in down under by then).

    Ali B.

  19. rocketsglare says:

    From the team’s body language and performance last night one has
    to believe that the team has finally run out of gas. I guess it was
    bound to happen with so many underperforming all season long and
    the multitude of injuries suffered all year long. It unfortunately had
    to catch up with this team at some point.

    • ricardamundo says:

      My thoughts exactly. They’ve looked exhausted for a couple of weeks now. They’re making mental and physical mistakes all over the ice. Hammer on that goal back pedalled all the way to the left circle and then when he tried to get back into the play and catch the kid in the slot, he fell on his face leaving him all alone to walk in. Eller got blamed for that but really, Hammer had a lot to do with the breakdown. I never bought into the small forward issue that much since their speed offset their size but all the little guys have slowed down a step or two and now get pushed off the puck, pushed out of the slot, pushed down to the ice etc. If the team was fresh we’d at least be competitive but their obviously bagged.

  20. CHsam says:

    I stopped watching (like many on here) after 2nd period. Saw the score at the bar with my bro. YUCK.

    Im pretty sure JM has zero offensive game-plans……

    Even if this team loses otherwise, Im convinced that they don’t like playing the system.

  21. Jdub1985 says:

    After the Blues decimated the Wings 10 – 3

    “We just kept pushing and it started steamrolling,” Janssen said.

    Something the Habs know ZERO about …


  22. phillyhab says:

    Notes from the game I was lucky/unlucky enough to get seats for:

    -our best outlet pass came from Carey Price. That’s not good.

    -Subban is a joy to watch. Non-stop energy from jump street. And I think after tonight his PP time won’t be a question.

    -Wiz looked SLICK in the neutral zone to draw the penalty. Where’s those moves on the regular?

    -on the bench, the team looks deflated from the anthem on. No passion. Cammy and Pleks are pictures of frustration; Gomez looks frustrated, but at OTHER players.

    -Gionta wears the ‘C’, but Hal Gill seems like the captain.

    -They put up a ‘in memory’ placard for a soldier from the NC area on the jumbotron — Gomez looked up, and started tapping his stick on the boards, then the team followed. I thought that was interesting, and classy.

    -It’s a pretty quiet building. They must’ve jacked up the audience mics. Really nice fans, and great Habs support.

    -Roman Hamrlik looks YOUNGER in person.

    -Sopel sucks.

  23. ooder says:

    just saw the replay of the game… on the first goal… ok sopel turned it over… but how does gomez just stop skaing and not cover skinner… i mean for a forward who supposedly has defensive awareness… how on earth does he let that kid just waltz in
    GWG = game winning gionta!

  24. kmachabs27 says:

    this is absolutely sickening, ive watched every game this year and ive never seen them play this bad and leave price out to dry like that in this past mont, what a great time to go for a s***

    • ManApart says:

      It’s not like Price was very good himself. You can’t just be a good goalie when your team is playing airtight defence, giving up no chances, you have to play well when things are tough also. See Halak last years playoffs getting pounded every night. I mean the first period the Canes had 3 chances and 2 goals. Not too bad defence there. Ward stopped 38 out of 40, Price stopped 22 out of 26. I’m not saying the game is on him, but to suggest he was great and it was all the teams fault is not so. It can’t be when the team wins, it was all Price and when they lose it had nothig to do with him.

  25. TheMock780 says:

    The Habs can’t win in Jersey at the best of times. The way this squad is playing, it’s going to be the ugliest, most boring blowout loss in the history of hockey.


  26. Rainrocket16 says:

    It seems like every friggin seasons end that we are chasing or being chased by the Canes and Rangers…cmon Habs!!!

    • ManApart says:

      I’m not surprised. I’ve been saying for 2 years now, the team will always be a middle of the pack team until current management is eliminated. They just don’t have a clue. Remember Gainey saying you don’t need size in the playoffs during the all-star break? and people wonder why this team isn’t a contender.

  27. savethepuck says:

    After tonight’s game, I really miss the thumbs up and down.

  28. derfab says:

    The kids have quit because the vets haven’t produced. Some of them will be run out of town.

  29. rogieshan says:

    The joker Georges Laraque suggested Martin has “lost the players” in the room. On the contrary. It is the players who have lost the coach. John Maclean made a death wish earlier this year in NJ when he benched his team’s star Ilya Kovalchuk. The move cost him his job. Meanwhile, we have Jacques Martin who is too self-preserving to put his own job on the line. He protects his veterans like they are his own children. He relies on them heavily to maintain his system. In effect, these guys run the room in return for the coach’s loyalty and favours. And so what we see are double standards, like Eller getting benched tonight for one mistake, or Pouliot on many nights before him. It’s old school politics and it is backfiring on Martin right now. The vets are simply not holding up their end of the bargain. And it’s making the coach look foolish and ill-prepared.

    • Rainrocket16 says:

      The most coherent post I have read since the slump began.

    • Timo says:

      I don’t think either one or the other – coach or the players. I think it is everybody. We do have a bad coach. Majority of our players are bad too. Sure they got “skills” but they have no heart, no balls, no shame, no pride, which makes them bad players. Few good honest young guys they had a misfortune to have mentors like Gomez, Cammilleri and Gionta as well as being coached by Martin are probably counting days until their contracts allow them to go somewhere else – ANYWHERE else. This team is fundamentally broken and is beyond repair with people that are currently in place.

      • savethepuck says:

        Except for the new kids on th block, Timo, we still have the same nucleus that made the conference finals last year. Did they have no heart then? I don’t think so.

        • Timo says:

          I agree, last spring was all heart, but this year it just feels different. Really, honestly, do you think last year’s miracle run can be repeated?

          • Clay says:

            It was not “all” heart though – more like half heart (and Cammy) and half Halak.
            The only interesting answers are those which destroy the questions. ~Susan Sontag

          • savethepuck says:

            yes I 100% do think that. And as for the Halak miracle, he stood on his head in the games that we won that we were outplayed. There were almost 50% of the games that the team played good that he was less than average ( yeah I said it). Throughout the entire playoffs, when he was peppered early, he stood on his head because he was in the game. When the Habs came out and took it to the other team, he was less than average ( look at the games he got pulled). That’s why he didn’t fit in the Philly series, because they weren’t throwing 40 plus shots a game at him.

  30. HardHabits says:

    8th place and a first round exit is worse than last place.

  31. angryasian says:

    If I was coach, the lines would go a little something like this…….

    Cammalleri – Desharnais – Gionta
    Kostitsyn – Eller – Plekanec
    Moen – Darche – Pouliot
    Palushaj – Halpern – White

    Subban – Wiz
    Weber – Gill
    Mara – Picard

    Gomez can report to Hamilton for all I care…. or just go home and not come back! Thanks for nothing gomer! That whole gainey intervention gave us maybe half a period of decent hockey from him? Rediculous! I’ve got way more to rant about but its bed time!

  32. DLS HAB says:

    Four more games to right the Tita… errr the boys! Lets hope JM…
    If we meet Boston in the first round can David D use a slingshot?
    We will need someone named David to slay Goliath Chara. Not!!
    Not to worry people the Habs will be ok.

  33. savethepuck says:

    I am not going to read and take an hour of my time to read any of the comments. There are no more thumbs up or down on this site, but i assume all comments on here tonight have been extremely negative after tonights embarassing loss. I guarantee you that there is not a better Carey Price supporter than me on this site, but if he played tonight like he does in 9 out of 10 of his starts, there is a different result in tonights game. The team played good early in the game and anyone who watched it should agree with that. Our goaltender has stole so many games this year that we should be able to accept another tender in a desperate situation( he’s done it before to us) to do it to us

  34. habs365 says:

    if they don’t finish in 5th spot…they’re gonna be done anyway….if you think for one moment they can beat Boston or Philly….you’re in dreamland.

    JM still don’t know how to put four lines together that can have a chance at winning….I’ll give him a lineup tomorrow for the rest of the season if he wants a chance at all for the cup.

    they played good tonight, but the same old story can’t score enough goals and it’s because JM can’t figure out who play’s with who….I’ll help him tomorrow after that it’s his problem and we’ll see how much skill is on this team…..

  35. RetroMikey says:

    Absolutely disgusting tonight.
    Our team is not worthy to be in the playoffs, just floating like butterflies out there.
    We’ve been floating too many times this season.
    Playoff contenders? Pfffft!

    “We will win the Cup one day only with ? in the nets “

  36. Matt H says:

    There’s a mad scramble of the top three teams to face the Habs in the first round. Boston, Washington or Phillidelphia would love to face the Canadiens. Each of those teams made deals at the deadline to bolster themselves for a run at the Cup, while the Canadiens made moves to patch up their shaky defense.

    -Washington added a veteran centre (Arnott) and a puck moving defenseman (Wideman). This filled the hole the Caps had for a number 2 centre while adding insurance on the back end. Washington has seemingly found their defensive game, and add to that a few players who can only be described as elite/dominant and the Caps will be very difficult for their first round opponent. Not to mention they might like revenge against the Canadiens for last years collapse.

    -Boston added speed (Peverley & Kelly) and a puck moving defenseman (Kaberle). The Bruins play tough and intimidating and have the best goalie in the NHL. Chara is a unique player who is uncomparable in the way he combines size, skill and intimidation. Their lineup is a mixture of youth, veteran savvy, skill, toughness and now more speed. I hate them, but they are better than Montreal on every front.

    -Phillidelphia added Versteeg, but didn’t need to make any moves as they proved their run to the finals was not a fluke, unlike the Canadiens run. The Flyer’s have three centres, Carter, Richards and Giroux who are better than anyone the Canadiens have, including Plekanec. The Canadiens have better goaltending, but if you remember last year Michael Leighton had three shutouts versus the Canadiens, so i doubt the Flyers are worried about containing the Canadiens.

    -Canadiens added Paul Mara and Brent Sopel, who take Picard and Weber’s place and as far as I can tell the difference is negligible. As far as I am concerned not one of those four should be even playing as Markov and Gorges would add a new top pairing to the Habs. The Canadiens have small, inconsistent forwards, a slow defense and a talented but exhausted goaltender. They’ve sandwiched a three game streak of no goals with blow-outs to the Rangers and Hurricanes with two wins against horrible teams (Atlanta and Minnesota).

    If I was a player/fan/coach of the Bruins/Flyers/Capitals (which i am not) i’d be very comfortable playing a small, soft team in the first round.

    • Bill says:

      Okay, first of all, I love what you’re saying because I HOPE those teams believe it. Being underestimated would be perfect for the Habs.

      Washington, Philly, and Boston are all ripe for an upset, because all three of have what I consider to be dubious goaltending. Your comment about Thomas being the best in the NHL is simply … gold. He’s got the best stats, yes, but a goalie who gets beaten as often as he does by THE HABS is not anything special.

      Philly and Boston have serious offensive depth, but also have slow, vulnerable defensemen. Washington is the most serious threat, to me, because they are actually playing a dynamite defensive game that stymies the Habs perimeter players.

      Price is better than their goalies. If Pleks heals, and if Gomez and Cammaleri come to life, and if Gill can repeat his playoff heroics of a year ago, anything can happen.

      Full Breezer 4 Life

  37. Timo says:

    So, what’s the goal spread going to be on Saturday? New Jersey by… ?

  38. After the poor performances of late, I am embarrassed to be a Habs fan. Look for me in the crowd at the game in New Jersey. I will be the guy with the Habs jersey wearing a paper bag over my head.

  39. BKAK72 says:

    Reality check.

    Group A: Markov, Gorges & Spacek – out with injury
    Group B: Wiszy, Sopel and Mara – their replacements

    Come on folks. Group B is a reasonable squad for meaningless hockey through the dark winter months. This band isn’t going to measure up to the loss of Group A when it counts most (in the Spring).


  40. RG says:

    I think I’m going no barf.

  41. VancouverHabsFan says:

    How embarassing! Where’s the effort? Carey Price is the only reason the Habs are in the position they are in. Hopefully they start showing some heart in their last few games. I don’t want to see the Leafs knock the Habs out of the playoffs on the last day of the season again!

  42. 24 Cups says:

    Looks like the Habs will once again scratch and claw their way to the playoffs. You know it don’t come easy.


    Not many people realize this, but the hit song performed by Ringo Starr was actually written by George Harrison. Which begs the question, I wonder if the Maharishi Mahesh Yogi is a Hab fan? Failing that, it just might be time for Mike Boone to play his Penelope Cruz card.

    Desperate times call for desperate measures.

  43. larisalapointe says:

    Too bad there isn’t an undo button to erase the hit on Max.

    I’m hoping this is just a sucky sequence for our team.

    I don’t blame the coach for this roster but seriously, pinning Pouliot and Eller to the bench accomplishes what when the ‘veterans’ are the ones who have been useless lately.

    The only player who doesn’t deserve criticism is Price. What that kid has done for this team is, well, priceless. The fact he came out after being replaced by Auld without any equipment sends a strong message to the team. I hope they are listening.

    The kind of team they are, they can win the next 4 games or lose them or win a Cup or be out in 4 straight. I’m hoping to watch my team well into the summer.

    • Timo says:

      Been saying it all along – it all starts with the management. It’s GM that hires the coach that makes bad decisions. It’s GM that hires players as worthless as Gomez, Camilleri et Co. The sucky players we have now are what they are – sucky players. It’s the GM that got them, it’s the GM that did not got rid off them. So again, since Molson is taking over being team’s president this summer, I hope days of Gauthier and consequently Martin are over (and of the overpaid heartless midgets that are supposedly our top players)

    • Al aboo says:

      well I agree the Molsons need to spend a ton of money on good players,but, who are these superstars and where are they coming from?….also we had a bad draw, the players we could have spared to long term injury, say, Scott Gomez rather than Markov or a Halpern for a Pacioretty make all the difference in the world

  44. Tighthead says:

    Dags got #20 tonight.

  45. Timo says:

    Well… 8 more games and then we can start hoping again. Hoping that Molson is done with Gauthier and Martin, that Molson is fed up with Gomez, Gionta and Cammilleri, that Molson is fed up with his team looking like a bunch of wussies, being pushed around, not showing up for games, etc. So much depends on Molson. Sigh… so here is to hope.

  46. Al aboo says:

    still puzzled by the whole three line thing, can’t believe we havent clinched yet and generally just really effin pissed off, no sleep tonight and a day full of re-watching the highlights tomorrow…..Vaporizer is on heavy rotation!

  47. JohnBellyful says:

    Play Auld Saturday. Don’t dress Sopel, and have Eller and Pouliot receive some therapeutic benching. And come out slingshots a-blazing. Ice the puck 10 times in a row to get into the head of the opposition. Wave a white flag. Don’t mind me, I’m just doing some blue-sky thinking.

  48. Rainrocket16 says:

    Somedays it is just too embarrasing to watch these guys. I just don’t understand JM whatsoever. 3 lines, ok not too bad an idea but seriously Why Halpern and and Moen? There is a reason why Halpern was on waivers when we got him. Eller stands to play well when paired with Ak46 but no, lets bench him…Jeez. Why arent we starting the game with Pleks, Cammy and Ak46?? If we don’t make the playoffs I am gonna freak!!

  49. Shiloh says:

    Eller glued to the bench says it all. Martin appears not to want wins unless they’re won his way. Can’t know for sure of course, but it kinda looks like they’ve quit on him.

  50. Bill says:

    I’m not worried. Carey Price has Tiger Blood. They needed 3 points out of the last 10. Now they need 3 out of 8. They’ll make the playoffs and I honestly think they pull a first-round upset against someone. That’s not optimism, it’s what I think.

    Full Breezer 4 Life

  51. SadPricey says:

    What are the chances that Weber or Picard are going to be shuffled in?

    I feel like that might be something worth considering in place of Mara.

    any word on Spacek?

  52. Habitant in Surrey says:

    …come on Everybody ! …can’t Ya’ll see Our Guys are suckin’ in the other Teams for the playoffs ???
    …Ya dun’t go runnin’ inta the lake to shoot ducks …ya hide in da bushes …and shoot ’em one at a time
    …dun’t underestimate Gomer outfoxin’ da ducks …nevermind da Philthydelphia Phlyers and da BawstunTeddyBears

    Habitant means PASSIONATE HOCKEY

  53. rogieshan says:

    Sad to say, but no matter what the outcome is to this season, Habs management will argue Martin did an incredible job in spite of injuries to the D corps and grant him an extension.

  54. habs001 says:

    take away the goals scored by plecks,gion,ak46 and max pac our remaining 10 forwards have fewer goals than 4 former habs(dags,sk74,grabs,moore) this year…

    • HotHabs says:

      the only one of those formers that I wish we still had as a 3rd/4th liner is Moore. the others weren’t going anywhere in Mtl. Glad they have resurrected their careers, but they can stay where they are

  55. EricInStL says:

    Can you imagine the last game of the year against Toronto and they need it to make the playoffs and get skunked on national TV.

    If that doesn’t make Molson act, nothing will.

    HIO please buy, rent do whatever it takes and make SURE you have the capability to handle 3000 posts that night.

    • habsfan0 says:

      Even if the worse case scenario unfolds and Habs don’t make the playoffs,JM will still be coaching here next year. Why? 1)2 years left on his contract which Molsons won’t want to eat. 2)Management will blame teams failures on injuries. 3)Dearth of French speaking coaches available.

  56. 100HABS says:

    best line tonight:
    Halpern Darche Moen
    Reminds me of Skudland Corson and McPhee
    Put the grinders together!

    • LA Loyalist says:

      There’s a happy memory. Skrudland, Corson and McPhee. Real Habs, those boys.

      • 100HABS says:

        They’re not a defensive liability and they crash the net and tire out the opponent. More often than not, the following faceoff will be in their zone. And it keeps the grinders off a skilled line. I’d love to see Pleky and Carameli with Gionta -when they played together in November, they were our best line all year.

  57. gK_HabsFan says:

    Whats frustrating here is that the team cant even win a fucking game for the goalie! This guy just saved your asses the night before, so how does the team respond? FUCKING FLATT!

    It must be so frustrating to be Price right now. On any other team with relatively better offence, this guy has easily 5-10 more wins.

    Its come to a point where this team just doesn’t win if he has a normal to average game! Hell, the only way this team has a chance to win is if he lets in only ONE bloody goal. That’s pathetic!

    I hope PG opens his eyes in the offseason, cuz in all honesty this season is lost. I’ll be VERY surprised if this team manages to win playoff round. Anyways, this team needs offence, and it needs it BAD!

    I don’t like blaming JM for loses, but I didn’t like some of his moves in the game. Few things:

    1) After Cammy’s goal, he put out Gill and Sopel on D…. SERIOUSLY? easily the two slowest guys on defence.

    2)After the second Skinner goal, Eller barely played. I admit Eller made a bad play, but if thats the case, Sopel should have been benched too. What kind of msg is that sending to the young guy!?
    “The whole team sucks, but you’re being punished” I just wish that the vets were held accountable for their mistakes too…

    I understand we have injury issues, but its the same damn story year after year. I hate always battling for 8th spot, its too frustrating.

    I wasn’t old enough to remember the 93 habs championship, but over the last 10 years, this team seems to be developing a loser attitude, where just making the playoffs is an achievement.

    Im beginning to loose my patience here, and i’m only 20…

    • LA Loyalist says:

      … I don’t want to blame Auld, because he doesn’t play enough to be sharp, but he was so deep in his net on the 5th and 6th goals, you’d think he was putting his car in the garage. Not good.

      Do we even have a goalie coach?

    • Clay says:

      “Over three road starts, Price has faced 71 shots and allowed 14 goals. His GAA is 8.23, with a save percentage of 80.3”
      The team played fine tonight, at least to start. Price did not.

      The only interesting answers are those which destroy the questions. ~Susan Sontag

  58. Habitoban says:

    That’s how you build confidence and reward the work the past several games. Take Eller and put him in the dog house. Hope Benny left it tidy. What a coach! Yes I know about last year’s playoffs and this year’s injuries. But there is no metric that I know of that can determine if a team wins because of a coach or despite a coach.

  59. LeeFree says:

    Does the ‘Martin F. on Saturday’ mean that he will be fired? In my dreams I wish! Turning the channel is becoming HABitual with me lately. Why should I show some passion when 19 of them don’t?

  60. J Haul says:

    The Habs stink. This new layout stinks. Goodnight.

  61. observer says:

    when do 2011 nhl playoffs start?

  62. JohnBellyful says:

    What do the Habs and Hockey Inside Out have in common? Both test the patience of their fans.

    • EricInStL says:


      “A fanatic is one who can’t change his mind and won’t change the subject”–Winston Churchill

    • ricardamundo says:

      At what point do we throw in the towel? I can’t watch in real time. I PVR it and then use the fast forsward. That way Gill and Hammer don’t look so slow. Now, what kind of technology can I get that will make Desharnais, Giota, Camellari and Gionta look bigger?

  63. EricInStL says:

    This team has serious issues that are too big to fix right now. A quick 4 and out against Boston would be perfect. BUt guess what ?

    They won’t meet Boston… They will meet Phily and get crushed.

    Against Boston it would have hurt more and accelerate the changes. Instead the fans who pay money will get mediocrity.

    Getting a bilingual coach/GM instead of the best coach/GM available will forever hurt this team.

    The rot starts at the head.

    “A fanatic is one who can’t change his mind and won’t change the subject”–Winston Churchill

    • Kristopher7 says:

      Seriously, I live in Quebec and understand why they want a bilingual coach, but really… would it hurt so bad to get one that would get the most out of his players? I guess so… so until people can let go of the bilingual coach/GM, good luck EricInStL.

      • EricInStL says:

        I also live in Quebec. But I will not cheer on this team, who does not want to win badly enough to ruffle some feathers.

        Sad. As the Montreal Canadiens you MUST get the best. They are the Yankees of hockey. No half measures dammit.

        “A fanatic is one who can’t change his mind and won’t change the subject”–Winston Churchill

      • observer says:

        if the best hockey coach you can get is a russian who cant speak a word of english or french but he knows how to coach a team regardless of the players mothers’ tongues – he should be hired.

        • HotHabs says:

          maybe TO should consider that… eh, Leafs lover?

          • Clay says:

            And maybe – just maybe – despite what team he likes (or doesn’t like) you could take a moment to actually READ WHAT HE WROTE HERE, because you may find you agree with it. I also want the best coach available, and I could give a flying f@#$ if he speaks French. And I am most certainly a Habs fan.

            The only interesting answers are those which destroy the questions. ~Susan Sontag

  64. Lafrich says:

    Just awful to watch. I hope they can pull it together in a hurry. Oh, sorry, one more thing, Brent Sopel? OOOPHA. Not good at all.

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