Liveblog: Game 60 – Detroit dominates, wins 2-1 in OT

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A point they didn't deserve

Let's be honest: Salvaging a loser's point flatters your Montreal Canadiens.

In their first game after the Olympic break, the home team stunk out the Bell Centre for long stretches against an Atlantic Division rival.

The ineptitude included a season-low two shots on Jimmie Howard in the second period.

Todd Bertuzzi opened the scoring on a first-period Detroit power play.

With Peter Budaj on the bench for an extra attacker, Brian Gionta tied it at 1-1 with 29 seconds left.

There were 28 seconds left in OT when Gustav Nyquist won it for the visitors.

Detroit outshot the Canadiens 30-20.

They deserved it

The Red Wings lost their lead with 29 seconds left in the third period.

Then they won the game with 28 seconds left in Overtime.

Gustav Nyquist got the game-winner.

At least a ;point

With Peter Budaj on the bench and 29 seconds left, Brian Gionta beat Jimmie Howard to tie the game.

On to OT.

A season low

Five times the Canadiens have been held to three shots on goal in a period this season.

In the second period tonight, TWO SoG.

And the first didn't come until the period was 12:31 old.

Detroit had nine shots. It's 17-9 over 40 minutes.

Just pathetic.

And the crowd is not liking it a bit.

He's been there before

Todd Bertuzzi is no stranger to crease-crashing.

On a Detroit power play, Bertuzzi was softly bumped by Jarred Tinordia and then left to his own devices, which culminated in tipping the puck past Peter Budaj for the only goal of the first period. Old nemesis Daniel F. Alfredsson had one of the assists.

Detroit skated circles around the Canadiens and could have had more – notably when Tomas Tatar undressed Emelin and Douglas Murray.

Shots were 8-7 for the visitors.

The home stretch begins

After a 17-day break for the Winter Olympics, the Canadiens return to action against a team that is chasing them for an Eastern Conference playoff berth.

The Canadiens are third in the Atlantic Division. Detroit is six points back, with a game in hand.

The Red Wings are clinging to a wild-card playoff spot, with Columbus, Washington and Ottawa nipping at their heels.

Olympic Games hero Carey Price has tweaked something south of his beltline and won't play against Detroit or make the trip to Pittsburgh. Peter Budaj starts against the Wings.

Alex Galchenyuk – out since Jan. 8 with a broken hand –  returns to the Canadiens lineup. Defenceman Jarred Tinordi has been recalled from Hamilton.

Fearless prediction: P.K. Subban will play more minutes for coach Michel Therrien than he did for Mike Babcock in Sochi.

• Pre-game reading: A thoughtful take on Canada and hockey

 

891 Comments

  1. jols says:

    Not sure how others feel but if Bouillon, Murray and Drewiski never played another game as a Hab I would be OK with that.

    Subban, Markov, Emelin, Gorges, Beaulieu and Tinordi. I think that top six would be the best we could do. The only problem is Subban is the only right handed dman. Emelin is brutal on the right and Tinordi isn’t comfortable there either. Beaulieu looked like he doesn’t mind the right side.

    Not sure why Bergevin hasn’t traded one of our left d for a right d in the 2 seasons he has been running the show. It’s a problem.

    • Phil C says:

      It’s a huge hole in the roster for sure. 3-4 defensemen are usually not overpriced either on the trade market. With the surplus of serviceable forwards on the team, you would think there would be a deal in there somewhere for the Habs.

    • Stevie.Ray says:

      I don’t know how anyone could hate on Drewiske. He’s played 9 games as a Hab and didn’t look that bad. At least no worse than Boullion and Murray. He even got 3 points. As a 7th D he is more than capable.

      But yes, our D is weak and something needs to happen

      • jols says:

        A little sensitive? I’m not hating on anyone except Buffoon Therrien. I just think our best 6 don’t include Bouillon,Drewiski or Murray. That’s all. Not a fan who gives a crap about the name on the back of the jersey just the crest on the front.

    • ont fan says:

      Interesting that the only right hand shot on the Wings is Alfie.

  2. Phil C says:

    On That’s Hockey, Craig Button thinks the Habs need a top three defenseman for a playoff run. Couldn’t agree more.

    • Forum Dog says:

      A top 3 d-man and a top-6 forward would be ideal. I only hope that Tinordi isn’t being dangled. I think he’s got a pretty good ceiling.

      • Phil C says:

        Tinordi has a wide range in potential for sure. He seems to have a head on his shoulders, so with experience he should improve. I agree that I would hate to see him become a star elsewhere.

  3. CJ says:

    Failed to mention one last thing;

    Two Montreal Canadiens scouts are reported at the Colorado and LA kings game tonight…

    You don’t often see two scouts from the same organization at the same game. Might mean nothing, but seems highly suspicious.

    • Forum Dog says:

      One for each team….

    • Forum Dog says:

      What would people think of Toffoli and Greene for Markov? I can see LA being a destination for him. They need a PP guy on the left side, and they have a good young Russian kid to play the right side in a 5-on-5 pairing.

      MTL gets a top flight RW prospect and a tough RH d-man to play this year.

      • CJ says:

        That would be an unbelievable trade! If people didn’t see the value in that kind of return it’s strictly an indication that they don’t watch west coast hockey games.

  4. DipsyDoodler says:

    Matt D’Agostini beats the Bruins in OT.

  5. CJ says:

    Here’s my quick take from the cheap seats;

    We are forced to defend way too much. This is where I agree with the EOTP gang. Too much of the game is played in our end. It is exhausting and forces the team into a defence first mentality. Offence has almost become secondary.

    Why do we defend so much? IMO, we can’t sustain any offensive zone pressure because we, aside from the fourth line, have very few players who are effective forecheckers. Once we establish a cycle, we have guys who are capable of extending the play, but we need another two forwards who can start the process and force the other team to defend. We exposed Detroit’s defence in the 59th minute. That’s an indictment on the composition of this roster. I really like DD, but he is not going to take us into the second round of the playoffs and beyond. If there is one thing this team lacks, it’s a big first line centre. Eric Staal, Jeff Carter, etc. DD draws too few penalties because he doesn’t force the opposition to engage. They push our team to the perimeter and force us into our weakness, which is creating offence from the point or on the rush. I don’t want to make this about DD. IMO, he gives what he has. However, with he, Briere and Gionta up front, we are playing poker without aces in our deck. The composition needs to change.

    I’ve been very outspoken about proposed changes. I don’t want to lose folks. I propose these changes because I feel the current composition is not capable of winning more then one round of the playoffs, even behind an all world goaltender. To land the type of players we need, we either need to move an asset of value, or remain patient and hope our prospect pipeline improves, yielding the kind of high end players the team desperately needs.

    The next week will define the short term future of this franchise. The next six months will determine our course over the coming years. The UFA class is shallow and provides few solutions aside from complimentary players. Do we have the moxie to throw out an RFA offer sheet to make us better sooner? Time will tell. In the interim I will continue to enjoy watching the games, even the boring ones.

    Have a great night everyone. Cheers, CJ

    • The Jackal says:

      Thanks for your post CJ.
      I am with you, this team needs to make changes and make some trades, even RFA offers like you say.
      We have a good prospect pool and can sustain some losses there in exchange for players that we can keep long-term.

      I like Markov but this team is not a contender. There is little sense to keeping him if he doesn’t want to sign a short-term contract (1-2 years at a decent hit). If he doesn’t like those terms, he needs to be moved for assets. There is little point in having aging veterans. We need to start moving pieces to contenders with assets to spare.

      We need to be targeting guys like Stewart, Gudbranson, etc. Guys that are on the block or that teams will have trouble signing. It’s time the Habs are aggressive for once and make some moves like the JVR trade.

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  6. Mark C says:

    JohnLuTSNMtl: #RedWings Babcock says #Habs Subban yelled to him during pre-game ceremony, “Hey, Babs, let’s sing the anthem together one more time!”

    Isn’t that cute.

  7. jols says:

    Both teams were rusty, as expected, and played brutal. The difference was one team has a buffoon for a head coach and the other has one of the best coaches in the league.

  8. Sportfan says:

    Miami Marlins David Samson who is President and also helped ruin the Expos is on Survivor I hope he gets kicked out.

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  9. CH Marshall says:

    DD is the solution every time, all day, everyday

  10. Cal says:

    The Habs have sucked when they have more than a three day layoff this season. Did everyone expect to fill the net against Detroit? I expected a loss and was surprised they got a point out of it. I basically hoped Budaj could hold the fort tonight, and he did.
    The Habs will be better tomorrow, but only if they can hold off Crosby’s and then Malkin’s line. Another big task.

  11. Kooch7800 says:

    I love pk but tonight was an example of why he didn’t play in Sochi.

    “Lets Go Canada”

    • The Jackal says:

      I wouldn’t go that far, PK was one of our best players and is our best skater on most nights. But it is true he has some wrinkles he needs to iron out in order to be truly elite in all facets of the game. Even if he never does, he would still be an elite player, but not elite of the elite.

      A lot of posters here have blind spots with regards to PK’s shortcomings but he does have them and while they don’t manifest themselves as often as he creates positive impacts, when they do, they can be very harmful. PK will learn how to improve his play but as has been said before, he is still improving. I don’t know why some see that comment as a knock on him. He is already great but he can be even better by working on his shortcomings. I think he could have easily subbed in for Pietrangelo but he is not on the same level as Weber or Doughty yet – but he could be better because he is more talented. PK needs to keep working on his game.

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    • piper says:

      I don’t like the first penatlty he took but can live with it as he gets frustrated and takes a selfish roughing. I hate the second one he took. I thought he would have quit that embelishing by now.

      • D Mex says:

        The first penalty was a borderline call by the ref, but the second one (diving) ought to be embarrassing to a pro hockey player, especially in a 4-on-4 sudden death game situation.
        He’s young, tho, so we choose to believe he will mature, improve and become more responsible with time.

        ALWAYS Habs -
        D Mex

  12. PrimeTime says:

    Fans are misreading the market if they think trading Markov will make the Habs better in the long term. There are better options for teams to give up their young prospects or high picks to make a playoff run.

    • piper says:

      You could be right. We may be over rating him a bit but when you look at getting Gorges and a first for Rivet it seems reasonable to assume Markov could bring more.

    • NCRhabsfan says:

      Yes, but keeping him definitely doesn’t make them better in the long run. There are no immediate answers, but there is the prospect of getting incrementally better.

    • Stevie.Ray says:

      I don’t think the team we have now is capable of making noise in the playoffs. We need more offence, and need to shed dead weight. If we can get our hands on a player that can put up significant number in two years for Markov I say go for it.
      A trade would have to be made for a replacement though as there isn’t much on the UFA market this summer.

  13. FANHABULOUS says:

    This Kesler trade talk’s got me thinking… would you give up Pleky for Kesler straight up? Same salary, both have years remaining on their contracts, so not rentals… Pleks is better defensively, which is something they really need (a great 2-way center). I’d give Kesler the edge offensively which is something we need, and he does have that size…

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  14. billylove says:

    Is the problem; a) a lack of talent, b) poor coaching decisions, c) too many soft players, d) all the above. There are long stretches when this team looks utterly lost and is flat out boring.

  15. Prop says:

    Missed the game due to going out for my birfday dinner, but I’ll chalk this one up due to rustiness.

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  16. adadi says:

    I’m finding the UEFA games much more exciting than either Olympic or NHL hockey. Not good for the future of hockey.

    • The Jackal says:

      That’s hilarious considering that UEFA games are considered very exciting and among one of the best sporting events in the whole world, so if hockey is getting that exciting, it’s on the right path.
      On a serious note, perhaps some games are not to some fans’ preferences, but NHL and Olympic hockey are objectively exciting, so don’t pretend what you find exciting is what the majority of fans and potential fans find exciting, because judging by your posts, your opinion on hockey is as trustworthy as the word of the main character of House of Cards – and spoiler alert, that is not worth squat.

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  17. GL says:

    Prediction for the up coming weekend:

    A loss to Pittsburgh tomorrow night.

    A maybe win against Toronto Saturday but don’t do any betting on that one just may go the other way.

    • CJ says:

      It will be interesting to see how the results of the next two games influence the management’s decisions regarding trades.

      We really needed the win tonight, as well as a win on Saturday.

      • B says:

        I hope they don’t make decisions based on just a few games.

        –Go Habs Go!–

        • CJ says:

          Not entirely, but the outcome might influence position. If we would have won all three games it would be practically impossible to trade Gio and/or Markov without major fan backlash. If anything, you might think we would be a buyer. Lose all three convincing, in addition to Price to being out for any length of time and maybe they become more aggressive on the selling side.

          I’m not suggesting that personnel decisions reside exclusively with the outcome of these three games, but it might be influenced one way or the other, if only modestly.

  18. 416erHabsFan says:

    Wait for it………. BOOM back to reality!

  19. boing007 says:

    J’en ai marre de MT. Therrien just said that they were hoping to get to the shootout. Not the attitude of a winner.

    Richard R

    • habsfan0 says:

      I agree.
      Playing not to lose is rarely a good strategy.

    • Mark C says:

      If he was playing not to lose, why was PK on the ice in OT? :)

    • Donkey Hoat says:

      I guess he didn’t practice his coaching during the Olympic break.

    • Mark C says:

      Detroit is 4-8 and Montreal is 3-3 in shootouts, so that sounds smart to me. Especially considering that Detroit outplayed Montreal for most of the game.

    • The Jackal says:

      You guys are taking this quote out of context.
      Detroit was playing better than the Habs, going to an SO would be a better chance at winning than allowing Detroit to continue dominating in regular play.
      It also doesn’t indicate a strategy of playing not to lose.
      I get that MT is unpopular here but people are too quick to jump the gun and make everything a coaching issue. On top of that, people also assume that simple coaching change is gonna make a huge difference – it won’t. Coaching is not high on the list of urgent changes.

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      • habsfan0 says:

        It seems to have done wonders in Winnipeg.

        • The Jackal says:

          That is not comparable with the Habs.
          The last time a coaching change worked wonders for us was when MT came aboard – gasp!
          That’s when we went from last to first. This season is not going as well but it’s not as disastrous as people make it out to be. MT is not as good as last season would suggest but he is nowhere near as bad as what people are saying this year. Opinions are very fickle and the truth lies somewhere in between the extremes.
          I’d welcome a coaching change but would not expect much until the roster’s shortcomings were addressed.

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  20. JUST ME says:

    I know it has been noted a few times tonight but what a different brand of hockey ! Just not to be compared to what we witnessed in the last weeks. Talent level,speed,skills,efforts…We got one point but i think we also got the point…

  21. PrimeTime says:

    Trading Markov would send a bad message to the team when all we would get in return is a failing prospect and a 2nd round pick. Anyone who thinks a team can be improved for the long term at the trade deadline has not being paying attention. High expectations is your curse

    • the_larry says:

      First, we’re not improving the team in the longterm by keeping Markov. And secondly, Markov could get some good price tags at this point, for a team that could make a deep playoff run, but needs another solid, experienced D-man to help them. In return, MTL could get something similar to Craig Rivet’s trade years ago (to San Jose, in return for Gorges and a 3rd rounder-turned-Pacioretty)

      Markov could easily get a solid, younger player, and a good draft pick. That will help us in the longterm!

    • CJ says:

      Trying my best to follow….

      I can cite numerous examples of teams benefitting from trades, both in the short term and long term, at the deadline.

      You are correct trading Marky for a failing prospect and 2nd would make no sense. To my knowledge, I haven’t seen anyone suggest that as an option though.

      I wouldn’t trade Gionta for a seventh round pick either, but if the deal was right, the possibility would need to be explored. All I’m saying is that in a league in which Gaustad, Kaberle and others net first rounders, I wouldn’t arbitrarily dismiss the notion.

    • NCRhabsfan says:

      Huh, I don’t understand? What bad message? He’s a thirty + dman with bad knees on the backside of his career. Yes, he has something to offer a team with a chance at a ring, but he is no longer part of the Habs long term picture. How does trading him at this stage send a bad message? Not trading him probably sends a worse message to the young players currently on the team. At the end of the day this is a business and only incidentally a sport; the smart business decision is to trade him. Wake up and smell the money!

  22. NightRyder says:

    Desharnais: 23:43 of ice time.
    Galchenyuk: 15 minutes, no PP time.

    We love you, Michel Therrien!!

  23. boing007 says:

    Playing not to lose, not to win. Déja vu (JM) all over again.

    Richard R

  24. GL says:

    The Golden Coach wins again without PK …

  25. naweed235 says:

    Well I guess the good news is that the whole team will be fresh tomorrow for their game against the Pens…

  26. adadi says:

    Great stuff from Stevie Y. He pissed of St. Louis so much he asked for a trade. Hard to believe that St. Louis wouldn’t finish his career in TB. I’m sure the owners must be ecstatic.

  27. boing007 says:

    No Galchenyuk? MT’s a wuss!

    Richard R

  28. monmick says:

    Disappointing first game back. Not much positive to take from the game. Let’s see what MT thinks…

    ~~~> Mathematically eliminated…

  29. Warpy says:

    That was the game Babcock feared Subban would play in Sochi.

  30. PrimeTime says:

    Babcock – “told ya”

  31. CHicoHab says:

    2 shots in the 2nd. I’ll take the point. Gotta get into the groove again. More spirited effort tomorrow and then by Saturday we should be ready for a classic.

  32. L Elle says:

    Meh, on to Pittsburgh. Poor Budaj.

  33. boing007 says:

    No Galchenyuk on the 3 on 3? Pffttt!

    Richard R

    • NCRhabsfan says:

      But lots of DD. How did that work out? MT is the wrong coach for the Habs. The Habs need a coach committed to the youth movement, not a frightened moron committed to the vets in a lame attempt to keep his own job. Even L’antichambre shouldn’t give MT a job.

  34. PrimeTime says:

    Was that Super PK with the D zone mis coverage??

  35. Sportfan says:

    Why the hell doesn’t Galchenyuk get time in OT? Why the HELL does DD get time, why cant Gally and Gally go together!

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  36. piper says:

    I can’t see this team doing any damage in the playoffs. Trade Markov.

  37. Harditya says:

    Therrien’s lack of trust in young players like Galchenyuk or Gallagher in such situations is disgusting.

  38. ffenliv says:

    So Subban was in the box for one goal, and one the ice for the other.

    *sigh*

    It’s great when the team is clicking, but *awful* when they don’t.

  39. CJ says:

    Another blown coverage on the winner.

    Well, taking the good with the bad, the three point game helps to bury the Senators a little further.

  40. RH says:

    Geez. Between 76 and 26, neither could take that guy out.

  41. Marc10 says:

    Fair result. PK should have had him.

  42. Phil C says:

    Nice goal by Detroit with lots of bodies going to the net, something Montreal does not do well.

  43. Cdnman1 says:

    Nice game PK!

  44. Sportfan says:

    3-0-1 for Weise

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  45. scarboro_habitant says:

    lucky we get 1 pt.

  46. piter says:

    Guess we got a point we didn’t deserve.

  47. Clay says:

    Meh…lucky to get a point.

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  48. adadi says:

    Too bad. But Habs really deserved to lose tonight. I’m guessing a struggle tomorrow night.

  49. Plekasuares says:

    Markov > Subban that game by far.

  50. jols says:

    Therrien is just a terrible coach.

  51. Habcouver says:

    Is Gionta hurting?

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  52. PrimeTime says:

    When the Habs win the cup Adadi will be the smartest fan. Until then, meh

  53. DipsyDoodler says:

    Marky: not washed up.

  54. RockinRey says:

    Maybe not 3 on 3 Boone. Maybe 4 on 4 all game. Need that extra guy to catch breath.

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  55. Congrats to Team Canada says:

    Boone the whole game should be 3 on 3. YES, and we would have 250 less players in the league for it too.


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