Liveblog: Game 52 – Canadiens plumb new depths of suckitude in 5-0 loss, fall behind Leafs in standings

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Fugly!

First home game in 11 days and your Montreal Canadiens dialed up a stinker.

No shots on Washington goal until the game was seven minutes old.

Three in the first period.

First shot of the second period almost 13 minutes in – by which time Washington had chased Carey Price with goals by Alexander Ovechkin, John Erskine, Jay Beagle and John Carlson.

Casey Wellman added a fifth in a languid and meaningless third period.

Final shot total was 34-21.

Oh, and Toronto got a point in Winnipeg.

The Leafs have passed the Canadiens in the Atlantic Division standings.

20 minutes of Garbage Time

Casey Wellman completed a 2-on-1 with Alexander Ovechkin for the Capitals' fifth goal.

Brian Gionta took two boarding penalties.

Brutal!

The Canadiens recorded their first shot almost 13 minutes into the second period.

By then, Washington had chased Carey Price with goals by Alexander Ovechkin (his league-leading 36th), John Erskine, Jay Beagle and John Carlson.

The Bell Centre crowd was chanting "On veut un tir!" by the time Daniel Brière finally got one.

Shots in the period: 15-6.

On the game: 27-9.

Horrible spectacle for the home fans.

The hurt continues

It took seven minutes for the Canadiens to get a shot on goal and almost 11 to get a second.

Final shot tally: 12-3 for the visitors.

And Washington will start the second period on a power play, thanks to Lars Eller taking a four-minute high-sticking penalty while the Canadiens were trying to take advantage of a delayed call against Niklas Backstrom.

On the ensuing PP, Troy Brouwer powered a shot past Carey Price, but the green light was on indicating time had expired.

This team is in trouble.

The Futility Bowl

Clash of the Tight 'Uns.

The Washington Capitals have lost seven in a row and sit seventh in the Eastern Conference's Metropolitan Division.

Clinging to third in the Atlantic Division, your Montreal Canadiens ride a three-game losing streak into Saturday's game at the Bell Centre, where fans have not seen their floundering heroes since Jan. 14.

Neither the Canadiens nor Caps are scoring goals, which is surprising in Washington's case, or converting power-play opportunities, which complicates matters for a poor even-strength team like the Habs.

Fearless prediction: One of the teams will win.

Supplementary prediction: Neither Michel Therrien nor Adam Oates is buying green bananas.

Puck drops 7:10ish.

Check back later for live game blogging.

1,587 Comments

  1. Habitant in Surrey says:

    …in contrast, there’s crazy fun going on at LA Dodgers’ Chavez Ravine …Hollywood starlets …a beach volleyball court next to the rink …a stage for a KISS concert …palm trees …warm sensual evening air …two real no doubt about it talented hockey teams, with real no doubt about it talented hockey players

    …and, did I mention the Hollywood starlets ??? :)

    …meanwhile back to reality in freezing Your butt off Montreal

  2. CJ says:

    I just saw Vanek’s OT goal, which was ruled a distinct kicking motion when reviewed by the war room in Toronto. Question, is there a more poorly officiated sport in the world? Sure, I’m being dramatic, but honestly these people never seem to get it right. One could argue that decisions are based on an advanced game of rock – paper – scissors.

    The only saving grace is it appears that it’s not just Montreal who gets hosed. The Kings and Isles both have legitimate beefs with the league this week.

  3. punkster says:

    HardHabits…that ’69 item brought back some interesting memories. There were always rumours that they did actually jam together somewhere at or near the Isle of Wright Festival in August 1970 but no recordings are known to exist.

    Good stuff.

    Still SUBBANGIN’ BABY…
    but…
    ELLER IS STELLAR!!!

    • Strummer says:

      How lame would that have been? Jimi having to play “SILLY LOVE SONGS” and “Baa ba black sheep”

      ______________________________________________________
      “It’s just an opinion- I could be wrong”

  4. Plekasuares says:

    This cbc intro sux

  5. The Capitalist Pig says:

    I think this French language thing is really biting the Habs in the bum. Four quarters of the guys believe MT wants them to be ‘ard on the suck!

  6. habsfan0 says:

    Looking forward to the Kings Ducks outdoor game tonight from Chavez Ravine.

    The incomparable Vin Scully will be taking part in pre game ceremonies.

  7. The Capitalist Pig says:

    I think it’s about time the ‘abs get ‘ ard on da puck and play h’aggressive!

  8. HabinBurlington says:

    PJ Stock continues to show us all why he so fricking brilliant. Markov is playing the most minutes this season he has played since 2009.

    Hey PJ you complete dolt, did you happen to notice that 2009 was also when his freak injuries hit?

    I can’t believe he is employed by both the CBC and RDS.

  9. aHabGrowsInBrooklyn says:

    Lowe offered to resign? Piss or get off the pot!

  10. Storman says:

    Ron Cherry Nose MacLeanl and Glenn nauseating Healy,, i am glutton for punishment wanna hear how they be anymore annoying to the earing establishment.

  11. The Capitalist Pig says:

    Hey, is Anthony Calvillo gonna pass the torch to Briere after the faceoff?

  12. adadi says:

    Have the Godfather cued in case this game turns into an early sh*t storm.

  13. Strummer says:

    Healy breaks down the Hab trap much the same way opposition coaches have this season
    ______________________________________________________
    “It’s just an opinion- I could be wrong”

  14. adadi says:

    Kevin Lowe offered to resign in Edmonton. Hopefully MB is taking notes.

  15. SlovakHab says:

    Busy weekend (Australia Day so we’re partying the whole 3 days here) so here’s just 2 thoughts on tonight’s game:

    - Therrien is playing to save his job, that’s pretty clear. Starting Price back-to-back. Expect low ice time for rookies and lots of veteran ice time. I feel bad for Price, because his stats might take another dip and that pretty much prevents him to get any individual trophies, possibly costing him starter’s job at the Olympics. Here’s hoping changes are made soon. That clustefcuck of defence is all on coaching, high-level players don’t just forget how to play hockey from one season to another.

    - Lot of people on this site crap on Diaz. In fact, there is numbers evidence from Boucher Scouting (www.boucherscouting.com) that he has been on ice for fewest scoring chances against per minute of icetime. If that’s not a sign of a decent defenceman (whose role is to eliminate scoring chances against), then I don’t know what is.

    http://www.boucherscouting.com/2014/01/habs-scoring-chances-against-per-minute.html

    Anyways, enjoy the game guys.

    • rljmartin says:

      Good post. Can’t believe how many posters think that all the other teams just got better while Habs just all of a sudden started to flounder. If that were true, the question is why?

  16. aHabGrowsInBrooklyn says:

    Cadlecreek is getting in his pre-game trolling, as are we all! Go Beer Ho!

  17. jols101 says:

    Go Habs Go!!!

    Please stop the madness or continue not to show up until Bergevin is forced to fire Therrien or do something, I’m indifferent at this point.

  18. habfan01 says:

    Time to hit the homebrew- couple of glasses and I won’t care how bad they’re playing

  19. Captain aHab says:

    Sticking around for the whole game cadlecreek? Misery loves company……..

    —————-
    Me skull and crossbones arn’t the only thing I plan on raisin’ tonight.

  20. Storman says:

    Thanks for the heads up on Cavillio, Boone,, absolute one of the good guys in sports,, Habs take notice ,, what a competitor..

  21. aHabGrowsInBrooklyn says:

    Good news: no former Habs in the lineup to light up their old team.

  22. Captain aHab says:

    Pre-game ceremony = guaranteed loss.

    —————-
    Me skull and crossbones arn’t the only thing I plan on raisin’ tonight.

  23. JohninTruro says:

    Erat will score his first of the year tonight…

  24. aHabGrowsInBrooklyn says:

    Wait, why is Boone hanging out on the comments threat with us hoi polloi?

  25. Plekasuares says:

    cmon boys

    -Gorges Reference!!!!!

  26. aHabGrowsInBrooklyn says:

    Caps are scouting this game! Must be a tertiary Button. Or else they plan on an internal trade.

  27. Storman says:

    2 teams that lack the ability to compete ,, should be a keeper for the dvd collection to POOP on

  28. HardHabits says:

    They Habs are still leading the league in suck possession.

  29. habs001 says:

    The reason to consider trading Markov is that the Habs team seems to have a lot of D potential in the next 2-3 years..But they dont have enough forwards in the system to become a cup contender unless they sign some high end ufas or get them in a trade..

    • Le Jadester says:

      Good point !
      I’ve thought about that a lot too.
      I had a tear in my eye after the Blackhawks match….but since that, I’ve been like eff it, trade him and a couple other vets (I.e. Plex).
      We need guys who can score.

      Habs, OLE !

  30. HabsProf says:

    Boone: Tell Brenda if she wants some company in the pressbox, I’ll be happy to join her and watch the game from such a great vantage point. I once wrote for my college paper. I’m sure you can arrange for a press pass on short notice.

    Of course, I’m stuck out here in California. Oh, well, the idea made me feel all warm and fuzzy for a while.

    _____________________________________

    They brought their f____ing toys with them!

    • Mike Boone says:

      if you need that idea to keep you warm and fuzzy in California …

      Mike Boone
      Hockey Inside/Out blogger

      • HabsProf says:

        I do – I have a lovely 60″ HD TV, but Centre Ice in the US only picks up the low def feeds from Canada, if they bother at all. I am usually stuck watching the other team’s broadcast and listening to their homer calls (e.g. Last night, when Abdelkader (sp?) boarded PK, the Detroit announcers said it was undeserved and PK just fell down).

        Haven’t been to a game since the days of the Forum.

        _____________________________________

        They brought their f____ing toys with them!

  31. Storman says:

    Fearless prediction, another boring crap ass game

  32. The Capitalist Pig says:

    Is there any truth to the story that Gionta’s last goal was motivated by hearing Henry V deliver live his St. Crispin’s Day speech before Agincourt?

  33. durocher says:

    Boone, anyone in the scouts’ section?

  34. HardHabits says:

    Something for Punkster (Dave) to muse about.

    In 1969 Telegram, Jimi Hendrix Invites Paul McCartney to Join a Super Group with Miles Davis

  35. The Capitalist Pig says:

    @Boone: Prust is growing a playoff beard now knowing full well he’ll be clean shaven in April!

  36. temekuhabs says:

    Price is starting, don’t feel he’s all thrilled about it considering what a shite show of D they’ve been playing in front of him. Oh, and not scoring either

  37. Cal says:

    Here’s hoping the Habs right the ship tonight, but my expectations are low. Washington is due for a win, what with their 0-7 record coming into town. Maybe we’ll get real lucky and have an up and down barn burner tonight. Who knows?

    http://calshabsongparodies.weebly.com

  38. Habitant in Surrey says:

    …the Murray-led Habs are causing Me to be tempted to watch the Raptors Clippers game on TSN rather than the threat of another crap display of hockey

    …which is a first for Me

  39. cadlecreek says:

    Just a Caps fan along for a Troll.

    We fully expect the Habs to pound us out of our coach and hopefully our GM. Please stop the madness in DC.

  40. adadi says:

    Boone if you want to sneak away and go on auto-pilot I think we’re good. All you need is to rotate three phrases.

    1. Habs get puck
    2. Habs lose puck
    3. Carey makes great save but D can’t clear puck and Caps score.

  41. aHabGrowsInBrooklyn says:

    I have a good feeling that Boone has a bad feeling about tonight’s game.

  42. Habilis says:

    Price starting back to back. I get the sense that MT is feeling the heat. Good.

  43. Habitant in Surrey says:

    …for those curious about the KHL today …showing on Sportsnet at this time is a 24CH type show following Mike Keenan coaching Magnitakorsk (?) in Russia

    …poor Mike’s accommodations in that city look like My university days hole-in-the-wall as a student eons ago :)

  44. adadi says:

    Boone is in the House. How do, Booner?

  45. HabinBurlington says:

    Just a small aside, watched the Bruins vs Philly game at bar today, two huge Bruins buddies of mine were there. Both were adamant that Price has to start for Canada and raved about how good he is and commented on how the Habs team has hung him out to dry in recent games.

  46. Luke says:

    Let’s go Habs! Woooooo! Etc.

    Icedogs vs the 67s tonight. Honouring the St. Catharines Blackhawks, so pile of former players will be in attendance. No Hulls or Mikita, but Dionne and a few other notable folks. Should be fun.

    Enjoy the game folks, hopefully its worth me watching on tape delay.

  47. Strummer says:

    HÎ/O needs a Senate tab, you know a place of “Sobre Second Thought”

    ______________________________________________________
    “It’s just an opinion- I could be wrong”

  48. GGtheHab says:

    Tickets and hotel booked for Habs/leafs march 1st…two old HS buddies (fellow Capers) flying in from Calgary and Edm…now will we be watching a key battle for a playoff spot, or a team or two playing out the string? Wonder which current habs will be still there and who the new faces may be…one of the guys is a leaf fan too so it will be fun no matter what….Hurleys and after hours ballet ;-) on the agenda. Next year hope to be at the summit

  49. The Capitalist Pig says:

    You must admit that the Habs find more suck for the buck than any other team in the NHL. I know bucks and you don’t need to be a Phi Beta Kappa from Yale to recognize the sucks!

  50. aHabGrowsInBrooklyn says:

    Tsn says the Habs Are in the thick of the playoff race. They clearly do not read HIO, where we are expecting a lottery pick.

  51. Frozen Village says:

    Sorry but,

    MT is old school, and plays favorites.
    leaning on the individual or the star when they are down, he tries to sound new school when he uses power words like success, compete, the right way.

    New School to me means developing structure after you know your groups work ethic and creativity, then you build the structure around the best standards and abilities of your group. MT takes me back to the 70′s (great decade to be a kid). Nice enough man though, just not what he tries to appear to be (crusty and retro).

    Eller, has been poorly coached and done more than what he has been asked for and gets…
    DD and Max’s success has come at the expense of the rest of the team. Run the numbers, it’s painfully evident.
    Bourny, has been mentored by whom by what ?

    Tinordi could man-up a bit, but I think he earned Cubes place.
    Pateryn, not sure what he has to do to get a shot. Beaulieu finally….Plek is matched with whom ?

    And who does MT report to: a well-dressed chez-nous that forgot everything he learned on the outside, when he came home. Presently looks like he rode the coat-tails of good timing in Chicago.

    Debbie-downer out, change needs to come out measured.

    More Swedes for the Lions in Winter

    • JUST ME says:

      The thing is that appart from the Cube , you do not name players that suck. Moen, Briere, Emelin, Bourque, Diaz, Parros, Murray, Gorges, White, Gionta , Bournival, and who else ? You already have the third of the lineup and could add quite a few that have their good days but have pretty bad days also. So MT is responsible of all those at best average players ?
      Changes need to be made on ice not off ice but nobody said it was going to be easy at the beginning of the season in the management. Easy way out ? Sure is ! But still this is what they predicted.

      • Frozen Village says:

        Your absolutely correct. Overly loyal perhaps.
        Players response.
        Moen – passing grade best utilized with White and Prust. ( Prust is the biggest underachiever of the three this year btw, you never mentioned him)
        Briere was signed for his mother tongue, makes the Cole trade genius of last year, look like a terrible trade.
        Emelin will be fine next fall.
        Bourque move him.
        Diaz move him some value btw.
        Parros bad pu
        Murray ok
        Georges potentially the most overpaid 5th d in hockey.
        White pass.
        Gionta 25 mil for about 200 career pts, playoffs included brutal move him,
        Bournival not played so ? What can he do.
        The status quo with support moves to that status quo is not development,

        More Swedes required for the Lions in Winter

  52. Plekasuares says:

    I smell a trade! Diaz will be gone very soon

  53. durocher says:

    We could have had Luke Schenn on our blueline — the Flyers were trying to trade him when they were slumping earlier this season. Imagine having him instead of Diaz or Cube.

  54. Plekasuares says:

    2-1 canadiens

    Eller, Plekanec

    Ward

  55. Sportfan says:

    I rather watch the out door game and I already think thats dumb lol

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  56. Bripro says:

    We had guests today.
    You know, the type of people you have to go out of your way to please, because they’re so gracious and pleasant to be with.
    My wife and grandson were enriched in meeting our New York Habs’ fans.
    Thanks to Habfan 10912 (Jim) and his son Chris and nephew. And it was great seeing L too.
    I’m glad you made it. I hope you enjoyed. And we’ll see each other this spring.
    You guys brought some great atmosphere, and let’s hope it boils over into tonight’s game.
    Enjoy!

  57. jrshabs1 says:

    I’m hoping for a trade between periods….

    MOAR BIGGAR!!!!!

  58. ProHabs says:

    We know we don’t have the players to get us through the playoffs.
    Do we have the players to get us into the playoffs this year is the question?

  59. L Elle says:

    I can’t believe Price is playing again tonight. MT is riding him too hard. This isn’t going to end well. As long as the team plays like crap and can only muster 1 goal a game, who cares who’s in net.

    Before you say, but Price gives them a chance to win every night, he can’t do too much in the long run if he’s exhausted mentally.

    But, for our out of towners, I hope they get to witness a great win tonight!

    • gauver says:

      here’s one out of left field for you. would you trade Price to the team which ends up with the the number one draft choice next year to choose McDavid and gamble that Fucale can become our new Price?

      • L Elle says:

        The Price lover in me says NO right away. But, the Hab fan in me says, if it improves the team , why not. But I would ask for more than a 1st in return. A really good team with Price wins a Cup.

        Fucale has a ways to go yet, it would require a lot of patience from us fans. More waiting. eesh

        • gauver says:

          Price is my favourite current Hab. I am thinking that if we are ever to become Cup contenders, we nee more high-end talent. If we can’t sign that talent via free agency, then we have to give something good/great to get something great back. Price and Subban are the only two players we have that I can think of that a team with the opportunity to draft a potential superstar like McDavid would seriously consider in exchange.

          • L Elle says:

            True, but if MB gets rid of the deadwood and the kids are allowed to play, and with some creative trades, maybe we don’t need to sacrifice our best player.

            Markov, for example, has great value for a contender. He won’t be around for many more years. I would rather sacrifice the older guys and keep the young core.

            Then again, maybe with a more creative coach, this team isn’t so bad.

    • Captain aHab says:

      I can totally believe Price is in again….MT needs some wins and he’s starting to feel the pressure.

      —————-
      Me skull and crossbones arn’t the only thing I plan on raisin’ tonight.

    • habsfan0 says:

      This is the first time this season that MT is using Price in both ends of a back to back set.

      MT must be getting worried about his job security(more than usual,that is.)

  60. ProHabs says:

    At least some good news. Luke Schenn beat the crap out of Gregory Campbell today.

  61. zip by says:

    riddle me this:

    Diaz has better TOI, more points, better plus minus than any of Emelin, Murray, or Bouillon.

    They play – he sits.

    what gives?

    • Captain aHab says:

      He can’t beat up Therrien.

      —————-
      Me skull and crossbones arn’t the only thing I plan on raisin’ tonight.

    • DipsyDoodler says:

      Maybe there’s a trade coming.

      Douglas Murray was atrocious last night. Hal Gill was slow but he played a positional game. Murray is tectonically slow, and he’s all over the place. And he’s worse than Diaz on the penalty kill.

    • SteverenO says:

      Makes no sense to me either:

      Diaz : 686 mins ES TOI – 125 mins SH TOI
      38 MPGF – 31 MPGA – 18 MPGA (SH)
      Bouillon: 560 mins ES TOI 22 mins SH TOI
      37 MPGF – 23 MPGA – 22 MPGA (SH)
      Emelin: 470 mins ES TOI – 22 mins SH TOI
      39 MPGF – 20 MPGA – – 7.4 MPGA (SH) 22 mins
      Murray: 331 min ES TOI – 71 mins SH TOI
      83 MPGF – 21 MPGA – 10 MPGA (SH)

      MPGF = Minutes of ice time per goal scored by team
      MPGA = Minutes of ice time per goal allowed by team

      Clearly, Other than Murray they have all made equal contribution to the offense, and Diaz has been significantly more effective defensively than the other both at even strength and on the penalty kill.

      Bullion has also been effective on the penalty kill but in limited minutes (22 minutes SH TOI). Yet another example of Therrien not recognizing who have been effective in which situations.

      Murray was doing well killing penalties for a while, but recently has been on for a lot of PP goals against.

      I can understand the rationale of not playing Subban on the penalty kill when its 5 on 4 – as others could do equally as well as he could, but you don’t have to look at any stats to know that playing Murray ( who does not skate very well) over Subban in a 3 on 5 is the height of stupidity.
      Every defenseman that Diaz has paired with has been more effective when playing with Diaz then when they have played without him.
      keeping Diaz out of the lineup while playing any of Murray , Emelin, or Bouillon is NOT giving the team the team the best chance to win. Period.

      By the way, Beaulieu has now played 89 minutes at even strength and has not yet been on the ice for a single goal against while being on for 4 HABS goals.

      considering that in 78 minutes last year he was on for 8 goals scored ( 9.8 MPGF) and only 3 GA I wonder why it took so long for him to get a chance this season

      Steve O.

      • dr. gesundheit says:

        I still rue the day they let the Wiz walk. Not big, but played an agressive style, tough as nails, fought well, right handed shot, offensvely gifted…

  62. MannyR says:

    Habs win and Leafs lose would make for a perfect evening.

  63. punkster says:

    Same lineup MT?
    Really?

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s8WOHN3IqM8

    Still SUBBANGIN’ BABY…
    but…
    ELLER IS STELLAR!!!

  64. frontenac1 says:

    Vas-y Les Boys! And Prust,stay away from Erskine, for God”s Sake! Saludos!

  65. Lil Snapper says:

    My fearless predicition, Washington comes out of their funk with a 5-2 victory.

  66. kempie says:

    Dave Stubbs ‏@Dave_Stubbs 6m
    No lineup changes for #Habs tonight. What you had last night vs #RedWings you have tonight vs #Caps

    Oh my Christ.

  67. Habfan10912 says:

    Great breakfast with Commandant this morning and a wonderful lunch with Bripro and his wonderful family. Weathers even warmed up to a reasonable amount.

    @CJ – I wonder if we’ll hear from Nygren soon ala Kovelev, that he was misquoted? I’ve been to Hamilton twice and I found the people down to earth and very friendly.

    The boys will be boys part? I think all 20 year olds have an eye for the female persuasion.

    Off to the Bell Centre in a bit.

  68. gauver says:

    I think that we should try to trade Markhov this season. I like him and respect what he has done for the team but I no longer believe he can contribute consistently over the long NHL season much less the playoffs.

    In 2011, Boston gave Toronto Joe Colborne, a first round pick, and a conditional second round pick if Boston made the Cup finals or if Kaberle resigned with Boston (he was a pending free agent). If we could get a package like that this year for Markhov, that would be our best move.

    Does anyone think we could get that kind of package this year?

    • Habs4LifeInTO says:

      I say we try. If he is deemed a fit on a team that wants to go for it, I think the haul might be close to that…

      24 cups and counting….

      • gauver says:

        i’ve been reviewing all the trades made for a defenceman over the past 5 years. I think we could get at least 2 second round picks (2014 & 2015). About one-quarter of players selected in the second round turn into NHL career players. So, we could end up with essentially nothing for Markhov or a couple of roster players. I would still make that trade now.

    • mushalain says:

      Sure why not… Markov is also more valuable then Kaberle ever was.
      They should try shipping him off to Anahem and try plucking a guy like Emerson Etem and a pick, or to Sanjose and try to take Hertl.

      • gauver says:

        i would be happy with either one of those transactions. how realistic is that from the Anaheim or San Jose perspective, do you think?

        • mushalain says:

          Fairly realistic if Anaheim and San Jose think that Markov can be the last piece of the puzzle. Moves like this have been made every year almost. There will also be a bidding war for his services as teams will not want their conference rivals to pick him up thus overpaying. We can also hope that a top 2 dmen out west on a contender gets injured thus making the habs asking price for Markov even higher.

  69. showey47 says:

    The one thing I don’t like about being a habs fan is the need for the coach to be a francophone. Personally, I don’t care what language the coach speaks as long as he is the most qualified available as a coach. Instead the habs have spent most of the last decade hiring coaches no other team would even interview to be their head coach. To me, the language of hockey is winning.

    Besides, when you think about it how much of the daily operations of the habs actually requires the coach to be French other then the 10 minutes post game presser? All game day preperations,practices,video meetings and the game itself on the bench is in English. I watch sports 30 quite often on RDS and notice they have French subtitles for the English players. Is the idea of the same thing for a coach really that much of a stretch?

    • gauver says:

      hindsight is 20/20, but man, wouldn’t Roy look good as the Habs coach (assuming he actually wanted the job)?

    • mushalain says:

      You don’t need to be a francophone to coach in Montreal. Bob Gainey, Dick Irvin, Bob Berry, Pat Burns. They were not french, they just spoke a little of it. It’s part of the habs tradition and that will never change. Unfortunelty it’s also a crutch for the organization. The talent pool for coaches is limited and the belief to have a french speaking coach make that talent pool not as deep. Imagine if Quebec City got a team? It would be even less

  70. Thomas Le Fan says:

    Unless we can get a young talented, bona fide, top six player, I don’t think we should trade anybody for anything but draft choices. Trades of that nature will help build the team. Any other kind of trade will only make us slightly less mediocre and affect our draft order adversely.

    Hockey isn’t everything … it’s the only thing … except for beer and guitars!

  71. JF says:

    Marc Bergevin was asked at the Habs’ golf tournament last fall whether he thought the team would make the playoffs. He said it would be very difficult with the new playoff format and with the parity in the League. I’m wondering now if he actually planned all along that the Habs would miss the playoffs, and if this explains his off-season signings. He had to add some muscle, which he did, on paper at least, by trading for Parros and signing Murray. He also had to appear to be doing something to improve the offence. But instead of signing someone like Jagr who would certainly have been a better fit and helped us more than Daniel Brière has, he signed a player who is pretty well a clone of our other small players and whose only upside, apart from his French name, is his proven playoff record. Perhaps his reasoning was that if we got to the playoffs, Brière would be useful, but he wouldn’t help us get there, whereas Jagr would. Signing Brière was also a politically correct move, a sop to the French media – so he doesn’t have to give them any more sops.

    Is this too far-fetched, too Machiavellian? After all, if you think back to last season, Bergevin must almost certainly have expected the last-place team he had just taken over to miss the playoffs. Instead, we finished second in the Conference, and he had to content himself with a low first-rounder instead of a lottery pick – maybe Nathan MacKinnon. Could he be determined to get a high pick this time?

    • byrneoNL says:

      The problem is our lack of parity

    • habcertain says:

      things would be no different with Jagr

    • Habfan10912 says:

      That’s an interesting thought Jane. I’ve got a buddy who thinks something similar as well. Coy if true, eh?

    • Captain aHab says:

      That last paragraph has been my contention all along…don’t think he was expecting it at all. After that, instead of being allowed to slowly bring back a team from the depths of the standings, he had to work with much higher expectations.

      —————-
      Me skull and crossbones arn’t the only thing I plan on raisin’ tonight.

    • JUST ME says:

      Well i think it makes sense. He wanted to buy some time . Did not turn out very well with Briere but Parros and Murray are exactly what the doctor fan ordered.

      I think he wanted to give time to the rookies to really see what he had , wanted to end a few deals with key veterans that may not fit in his future plans and also wanted to see who were the real Habs. 28 th in the league or 2nd in the conference ?

      I do not think he thought he would do so well but i would not go as far as saying that he was hoping to struggle to get the best pick possible last summer. I think he is still on track with his plan and that this summer will be key in the futur of the team and many players cause now is time to do a clean up in the veteran group and also getting new ones to take over.

      • habcertain says:

        I don’t think buying time is it, who is he buying it for? I’m sure he has defined a road map and timeline that has been presented as his business plan to Molson for his concurrence, and if he hasn’t, he should be fired along with MT.

  72. Chrisadiens says:

    Buds or Price? Any news on that front yet?

    Chrisadiens and HabFan10912, one of the few father son tandems on HIO.

  73. WindsorHab-10 says:

    Don’t know if I should cheer the team on for a win or pray for a loss. Because the way I see it, if we lose to the Caps, losers of 7 straight, I’m hoping it will force a coaching change. I know one thing for sure, once the puck drops I’ll be cheering for 2 points.

  74. Mavid says:

    GO HABS GO

    Weed Wacker Grandma Smurf

  75. twilighthours says:

    I don’t own a jersey, but I would definitely throw my one t-shirt on the ice.

    The ladies would love it, too.

  76. habstrinifan says:

    Are you crazy… you know what a HABS jersey cost?

  77. morivera says:

    Good enough for a CY young award there, and hopefully CY Onara to MT to go along with that.

  78. mrhabby says:

    Seats are all full.

  79. Plekasuares says:

    Im sure Gorges is yelling.. Lol

  80. habsfan0 says:

    I’d prefer Rob Ford as Habs coach as compared to MT.

  81. The Capitalist Pig says:

    The slump will end when they play each other in a scrimmage at practice, at least for part of the roster!

  82. Think this version is worse…

    I’m speechless! 20 years and counting…

  83. dallyd says:

    Really. You think MT is doing a fine job ? Come on…it is one poor head scratching decision after another. As a former player, is is obvious he has CLEARLY lost the room. Please explain.

  84. Grimmly says:

    yep must be , oh wait, Bourque and Gorges -3 is cause of penalty killing? Briere playing more then anyone? oh and his -2

  85. dallyd says:

    You don’t get a – on the penalty kill.

  86. Adidess says:

    Why? As a fan, he has a right to be frustrated. In fact, his might be the majority view at the moment, especially the ‘fire the coach’ part.

  87. habfan01 says:

    Dork@bibizonko

  88. boing007 says:

    Is there whisky in it?

    Richard R

  89. Storman says:

    but your the babyzonka

  90. Grimmly says:

    that was my point:)

  91. Mattyleg says:

    We’re hardly that bad.
    Going through a bad patch/losing streak doesn’t compare with endless last-place finishes!

    —Hope Springs Eternal—

  92. Mattyleg says:

    I don’t think you will be proven as adept at fortelling the future as you think you are.

    —Hope Springs Eternal—

  93. habcertain says:

    what’s his last name? oh, sorry

  94. JohnBellyful says:

    Who do you think he’d insist on: Bourque, Gionta, Briere, Murray, Gorges … ?

  95. Billyboy says:

    He’s a total idiot. Can anyone explain why Briere gets so much pp time. On second thought can anyone tell me whe he gets any ice time.

  96. The Jackal says:

    If this is a joke, then thanks.
    If not, please seek help.

    ______________________
    Hockey sine stercore tauri.

  97. habsfan0 says:

    Pierre Gauthier did a lot of questionable things during his tenure as GM of the Habs,but he must have done something right if the Stanley Cup Champion Chicago Blackhawks saw fit to hire him as Developer of Player Personnel.

    And,right or wrong,it took a lot of gonads to hire a unilingual anglophone as coach of the Habs who Gauthier thought was the best fit at the time.

  98. The Jackal says:

    Yikes indeed.
    Exhibit of Hickey’s examples of fan commentary :P

    ______________________
    Hockey sine stercore tauri.

  99. CJ says:

    Based on that post, I’d suggest two glasses of water followed immediately by bed.

  100. CJ says:

    Humour us. I’d love to hear the trades.

  101. Harditya says:

    That is pretty funny, MB being is a corrupted man taking money from underneath the table by other organizations ahahhaha. Interesting conspiracy to say the least.

  102. habsfan0 says:

    Rene Bourque for a bag of pucks.

  103. dr. gesundheit says:

    definately a head scratcher…and the goat hung Cunneyworth out to dry

  104. The Capitalist Pig says:

    Briere for a team-wide bout of the flu!

  105. Storman says:

    Whose dumb enough to give us a bag of pucks for Bourque

  106. monmick says:

    Coming to the Charboneau Commission very soon….

    ~~~> Mathematically eliminated…

  107. Lil Snapper says:

    Roll that joint a little tighter

  108. CJ says:

    Wow! Sleep it off bud.

  109. habsfan0 says:

    Brian Burke.

  110. CJ says:

    Hey Eastern Ontario, I grew up in the area, about 30 minutes west of Cornwall. Did you ever go to Cornwall Comets games back in the day? Now that was tough hockey.

  111. JohnBellyful says:

    You know, Easter’, you just might have come up with a solution to the Canadiens’ woes. Earlier I wondered if the team had a Plan B to extricate itself from the doldrums and raised three possibilities — Boucher, Blowup, Basement — but you’ve sugggested another: Born again.
    That’s right, have the team undergo a name change, wipe the slate clean, lift off the burden of history and unrealistic expectations we fans, especially we older fans, have placed upon the club.
    Teams change the look of their sweaters all the time, why not their name.
    The question is, what should the new moniker be?
    Hmmm.
    Montreal Kanadiens … Kentuckians … Bellringers … Dial Tones … Formerly Known as the Canadiens …
    Let me sleep on it.

  112. The Jackal says:

    What? Don’t leave HIO!
    HIO is a wacky place but it needs all the personalities.
    We’re all nuts, hence we are fans. Just carry on venting and discussing Habs here!
    Even if there is a lot confrontation here, you are still a valued poster.
    Just know your passion will be missed if you.
    Cheers EOHF!

    ______________________
    Hockey sine stercore tauri.

  113. wild flower says:

    I would pay this guy 8 million. He takes up too much oxygen and I’d rather have my defense play defense. I’d rather build a team with offensive forwards. I don’t want the forwards standing around in the neutral zone while a rogue dman is showing off his puckhandling. A lot of guys can bomb shots from the poing, it’s a skill that is not worth 8 million. Same thing Winnipeg finally figured out – get Byfuglien away from the point in favour of guys like Trouba who do their jobs.

  114. CJ says:

    Ha, you’re kidding. I live just off river road. I used to be a member at Carleton Golf and Yacht Club. Small world.

  115. habsfan0 says:

    If that pylon in Toronto is getting $7million per, then Subban is probably worth double that.

  116. Badwich says:

    Our forwards stand around whether a great one is on the ice or not.

    Don’t worry Daisy, PK’s agent will have him out of Mtl soon enough.

    Want offense? Get rid of tubby.

    Taberwitt

  117. CJ says:

    Haha, I probably know him. Fairly small membership. We likely have mutual friends. In any event have a great night! Hope I have the pleasure of meeting you in the future. I’m looking to the next HIO summit, if not sooner. Cheers, CJ

  118. Habfun says:

    Wow I live in west end Ottawa, my brother was a member at Carleton Golf and Yacht Club, he passed away from cancer 2 years ago but was a member for at least 15yrs. I played as a guest at least 25 times. Nice course! We have probably all crossed each others past. Maybe someday we will tip a pint (or quart).
    Habs are brutal by the way!

    It\’s all about the CH

  119. JohnBellyful says:

    Would make for a nice headline: Crushers flatten Bruins

  120. monmick says:

    Grinders…

    ~~~> Mathematically eliminated…


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