Liveblog: Game 49 – Leafs win 5-3, tighten playoff race

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Divisional loss tightens race

Toronto's 5-3 win moved them withing four points of the third-place Canadiens in the Atlantic Division standings.

A late goal by James Van Riemsdyk broke a 3-3 tie.

The Leafs also got goals from Cody Franson, Phil Kessel and Mason Raymond.

Brendan Gallagher, Brian Gionta and David Desharnais scored for the Canadiens.

Leafs score late to win it

David Desharnais tipped in P.K. Subban's point shot to create a 3-3 tie that lasted five minutes.

Errors by Andrei Markov, Alexei Emelin and Max Pacioretty opened the door for Tyler Bozak to feed James Van Riemsdyk for the winning goal.

With Carey Price on the bench, Joffrey Lupul was hauled down from behind and awarded an empty-netter.

Canadiens outshot the Leafs 33-29.

Birthday boy captain scores a big one

The Canadiens dominated the first half of the period, but Toronto took the lead on goals by Phil Kessel and Mason Raymond – the former off defensive zone chaos, the latter with Alecei Emelin in the penalty box.

The home team was cruising until Brian Gionta, 35 today, tapped in a rebound with only 11 ticks left on the clock.

Shots were 14-10 for the Canadiens.

Carey Price made a highlight reel leg save on Kessel.

Ottawa redux?

Reminiscent of what the Senators did on Thursday, Toronto began by running the Canadiens out of the rink.

The Leafs outshot their visitors 6-1 and got a 1-0 lead when Nazem Kadri easily beat Alexei Emelin and fed a pinching Cody Franson for a tap-in.

The lead lasted until a late-period Canadiens power play.

A lucky bounce off Max Pacioretty found the blade of Brendan Gallagher's stick, and the diminutive one fired home his 12th goal – half of which have come on the PP.

Shots were 12-9 for the Leafs.

Carey Price's best save was right-leg robbery on Mason Raymond.

Another Atlantic rival

Their first visit to Toronto this season is unlikely to match the excitement of the Canadiens' crazy win in Ottawa, but there's every chance we'll see a good one at the Air Canada Centre Saturday night.

Clinging to a wild-card playoff spot, Toronto has won three in a row and is 16-10-1 at the ACC.

The Canadiens are third in the Atlantic Division, two points behind Tampa Bay and three back of the Bruins. They're 13-8-2 on the road this season.

The Leafs spoiled the season opener at the Bell Centre  Oct. 1 with a 4-3 win. The Canadiens made amends to the home fans, getting two goals from Max Pacioretty and winning 4-2 on Nov. 30.

Hamilton call-ups Nathan Beaulieu and Joonas Nattinen are expected to be in the lineup Saturday night.

Disappointing fans who voted overwhelmingly in favour of taking him out to the barn to be humanely euthanized, Rene Bourque will be in the pressbox, with Douglas Murray and Raphael Diaz.

The Leafs will be without "prize" UFA acquisition David Clarkson and goon Frazer McLaren.

Puck drops at 7:40ish, after the HNIC crew finishes their preliminary Leaf-blowing.

Check back later for live game blogging.

 

1,312 Comments

  1. habsfan999 says:

    Feeling really positive about tonight’s game. We’ve proved we can play defence, scoring goals has in my opinion since the biggist problem since the nine game streak. It’s good to see the habs having the ability to score goals when they need them.

    Great to see Subban getting the ice time on the power play. Finally Therien has let them ease up on the grinding identity at least when they’re on the 5-on-4. Grinding and defence aren’t the same thing. Against Chicago, that was defence.

    Beaulieu – really nice to see another defenceman being able to handle the puck. He got caught a few times as a deer-in-the-headlights with the puck behind our goalline and made turnovers, but first game up and all maybe he won’t make those turnovers again. We’ve got to do something on the defencive end, going with the same guys would be the wrong move, so in my opinion Beaulieu should stay.

    Eller seemed all over the place in the good way on several shifts, by that he seemed to be battling for the puck whichever side of the ice it ended up on, several times leading to possession.

    Face offs are better.

    There’s no room or reason for Parros on the ice. With the instigator penalty the enforcer has to be able to play.

    Also better neutral zone play tonight than some of the recent games. Feeling hopeful for this team again.

    Most important of all, that was damn entertaining hockey.

  2. Plekasuares says:

    Mental errors cost the game it was not that bad of a game (I was there). Nate is miles away from the NHL looked out of place tonight. Overall, it was not that bad of an effort and the referees were awful.

    • DDO_Habs_Fan says:

      Yeah the constant interference by the Leafs was ridiculous.

    • CJ says:

      If Nate is miles away, I shudder to hear your opinion of Emelin’s game tonight. Beaulieu’s game has warts, but he did things tonight (positive things) that I’ve never seen Boulion, Murray or Diaz do all season.

      He is the future. Sadly, they (Boulion, Murray, Diaz) are the past living in the future.

      • Plekasuares says:

        No doubt Nate is the future. He has the first game classic errors. Emelin was extremely bad.

        • CJ says:

          I keep thinking Emelin will get better because he has proven his worth in the past, but he is making poorer and poorer decisions with and without the puck on a nightly basis.

          I’m hoping the Olympic break can snap him around.

          • showey47 says:

            Emelin playing his natural left side would be a good place to start. Maybe try markov on his opposite side and see if it brings a better balance to the pairing. Won’t know till they try it. I’m sure there are a few Dmen who can play both left and right D without it affecting their game too much but emelin isn’t one of them.

  3. Mattyleg says:

    I’m off to ‘the scratcher’ as they call it in Ireland.

    Night all!

    —Hope Springs Eternal—

  4. frontenac1 says:

    Gratts is still bleeding! WTf?

  5. DipsyDoodler says:

    I don’t see how Torts is also responsible for the brawl. Was he supposed to put the Sedins out against the Flames’ goons?

    I must say it didn’t take long for Burkie’s Flames to turn into a laughing stock.

  6. Adidess says:

    I am no MT fan and, in fact, sometimes I wish our GM was a Lou Lamoriello type who would just pull the plug in a moment’s notice, telling him that’s it. Just not a fan of his coaching style, his system, or his old-school approach of handling talented players.

    But looking at it realistically, there is no way MT gets fired before the end of the season, and no guarantee it will even happen at that. When a new GM hires a new coach to take over a last-placed team, performance expectations are established at the outset where GM tells coach something like ‘if there is progress towards making the playoffs in Year 1, you’re safe. If you get closer in Year 2 or you make the playoffs, again you’re safe’. We don’t like the way this team is coached, but they have had relatively good results. They finished Year 1 on top of the conference. They look to be on their way towards making the playoffs in Year 2. I don’t like the direction in which they’re trending, but MT has earned the right to get to take them to the playoffs.

    Also, tonight’s loss was not on MT. Veteran players making individual blunders cost the game. This was not due to system breakdowns. Georges, Emelin, Markov, DD should take most of the blame.

    Now, I’ll tell you what my worst nightmare is: that Therrien take the Habs to the 2nd round of the playoffs this year and earn himself an extension in the summer. To me personally, that would feel as bad as missing the playoffs. I do not want to see MT behind the bench for longer than the length of his current contract. I wouldn’t be able to take it.

  7. The Jackal says:

    CJ – nice stat on the last 26 games. Definitely a good fact to omit/ignore.

    • CJ says:

      Surprising though isn’t it?

      • The Jackal says:

        Very surprising but it just goes to show how short-term the thinking tends to be. Not to say there are no issues but let’s temper the doomsday stuff a bit.

        ______________________
        Hockey sine stercore tauri.

    • CJ says:

      Agreed. What are people’s expectations? This is a transition year. The sooner people understand that the easier it is to sit back and watch. Sure, I hate watching when the compete level isn’t there, but that was not the case tonight.

  8. The Juice says:

    Leafs just did to the Habs what the Habs did to the Sens on Thursday. Much better game for Montreal and they deserved to win, despite being screwed by biased refereeing once again. Over an 82 game schedule it will even out. C’est la vie. Unlike Boone, I am not going to lose sleep over the Laughs being 4 points back because this is as close as they are going to get.

    ps-I’m with you guys, CBC announcing was atrocious

    __________________________________________________________________________

    “To you from failing hands we throw the torch, be yours to hold it high!”
    @JohnnytheJuice

    • etcheverry92 says:

      Biased refereeing? You mean letting Subban get away with interference and downfield tackles? You mean ignoring Plekanec punching Kadri in the face, then whistling Bozek for doing much less to Gionta a few minutes later? In what universe is referee Francois Charron biased AGAINST the Canadiens?

  9. The Puckhound says:

    Habs will have 90 points at the of the year.
    Will this be enough to make the playoffs?

    Go to the net and keep your stick on the ice!

  10. WindsorHab-10 says:

    Anyone has link of coach’s corner. Could not play it off the cbc website.

  11. DipsyDoodler says:

    Yeah PJ! YOU tell’em buddy!

  12. Mattyleg says:

    HAHA!!
    The Ceeb is so bush-league.

    Someone yapping about some crap or other, no-one’s listening, Calgary scores, he doesn’t stop talking, and the the play-by-play guy just kind of mentions that Calgary scored.

    That’s quality.

    —Hope Springs Eternal—

  13. Storman says:

    Man I love Giordano’s game,, he is so good and plays so smart

  14. DipsyDoodler says:

    CBC announcers too busy gossiping with each other to call the first goal of the game.

  15. DDO_Habs_Fan says:

    Tonight’s a game where they missed Chucky. He could have buried some of those Leafs turnovers.

  16. The Puckhound says:

    Seriously, Marc Bergevin needs to look in the mirror and tell himself I’m not a good GM.. Take a look at the mistakes he has made.
    signing DD..too small when the games becomes tough.where is he??
    signing Briere..enough said
    trading for Parros
    Signing Boullion
    To win in this league you need big centremen to win draws and carry the puck.Habs have neither!
    Do not tell me Plekenacs’s is a #1!

    Go to the net and keep your stick on the ice!

  17. Storman says:

    Out for next Christmas PJ Stock’s new book The art of not speaking properly..

  18. Habcouver says:

    Round 2 in Vancouver coming up.

    Waiting patiently for #25

  19. Storman says:

    Tortorella’s that guy, that gets into a fight every time he goes into a bar,,,, and promptly loses everyone of them..

  20. 416erHabsFan says:

    Who needs to win when profits are at an all time high? The suits at the Molson offices don’t give a poop about winning, just profits.

  21. Habcouver says:

    My gawk! More PJ. I hope he is losing his voice.

    Waiting patiently for #25

  22. Mattyleg says:

    Holy crap, PJ Stock is a bloody idiot.

    —Hope Springs Eternal—

  23. adadi says:

    Habs are not making the playoffs. Get used to it. That will be the end of MT and should be the end of MB. This team is now solidly in reverse.

    • jimmy shaker says:

      if not for that 9 game streak, this team is on the outside looking in. It’s up to MB to make a push for the playoffs or just let this thing slide and slide right out of the back door at the dance!

      Shaker out!

      • adadi says:

        MB is making decisions based on the French thing. He’s a loser. We will never win with him.

      • CJ says:

        I get what you’re saying, but how can you arrive at that. Using that same logic, if not for Ottawa’s recent winning steak, they are a lottery team. If not for Toronto’s current four game streak, then they are our of a playoff position. There are many ebbs and flows in professional sports.

        Believe it or not, Montreal leads the entire Atlantic division in points over the previous 26 games.

  24. olematelot says:

    People go on about trades. These things don’t happen these days, how many trades of any signifigance have happened in recent memory. It ain’t gonna happen.

    • db says:

      This ain’t the NBA..

    • DickandDanny says:

      Unfortunately i think your right. What would Sam Pollock do in this era of the non trade NHL? I wonder.

      “A cannonading blast from the wing, by Lafleur”

    • CJ says:

      So much advanced scouting. Nobody wants to make a bad deal. It will be very difficult to impossible to trade away those whipping boys, unless we are prepared to take back salary. It’s the one reason I thought we might be able to get Drew Stafford. Take a look at the rosters around the league and pick out the players who are making $3.5 million or more, but struggling. That’s who we might be able to get for Bourque. We aren’t getting a pick, we are getting a project, the same thing we are giving.

  25. WindsorHab-10 says:

    Loss totally on our defence, mainly Markov. Hope next time we play them someone beats the living crap out of James van Riemsdyk for mimicking Subban after he scored. What a piece of shit he & all of HNIC are. The hell with all of you low-lives.

    • db says:

      If you’re blaming the D, blame the GM… Markov can’t play the minutes PK can. Emelin is lost on his off side.. Gorges is overpaid and undersized for his role. Frankie should be replaced by Tiny.. Beaulieu had no backup.. meh.

    • DDO_Habs_Fan says:

      You can’t defend PK then criticize JVR. BTW these guys all talk trash on the ice. Stuff like this is going to happen.

      As for Markov, I hope they wait till after the season to sign him. His offense is still there but his propensity to make huge mistakes has gotten worse.

    • piper says:

      JVR watched coaches corner and wanted a kiss from Cherry.

    • jimmy shaker says:

      That’s the least of the team’s worries…….so what! Learn to back check or to not turn the puck over in the neutral zone of a 3-3 tie with less than 5 to go in the game!

      Shaker out!

  26. DipsyDoodler says:

    LOL @Tortorella.

  27. jimmy shaker says:

    They look weak in all area’s of the game! Thank God I fast forwarded through most of this game…..can’t handle watching this team suck and suck hard against ottawa, toronto and boston. MB has to do something, or what is the use in making the playoffs and getting shelled in 4 or 5. At least they have a game in hand on the buds to try and get their lead back up to 6 pts.

    Shaker out!

    • Mattyleg says:

      We didn’t suck tonight.

      Re-watch the game in real-time!
      :)

      —Hope Springs Eternal—

      • jimmy shaker says:

        Maybe not as bad as Ottawa, but when toranna looks dangerous on most of all their time in the habs end, something is wrong. Like I said I can’t watch these games against these 3 teams when they look so flat.

        Shaker out!

  28. Storman says:

    The problem with your goalie playing as well as Price is right now, your D zone coverage gets sloppy figuring Price will bail them out,this has to stop..

    I really dis agree with MT, I do not believe we played that well at all, no urgency systematic BS, and what I hate is he cant get the guys to play and compete for complete 60 minutes ever,

    What I hate about certain players is there absolute inability in situations to recognize danger and answer the situation with some compete and urgency.

    Also when you see our most gifted player PK lugging the puck up ice hitting the opponents line with speed , dont go offside, he does not have to dump it in like most, he has the talent to make something happen, don’t shrug your shoulders and say he was supposed to get the puck deep,, into the corners where we cant compete to get it back..

  29. DDO_Habs_Fan says:

    Everybody is talking about how Parros blew a coverage. Nobody is saying how Gorges turned the puck over to cause that scoring chance. Anyway, if you think that Parros can cover Kessel on bang bang play in front of the net off a turnover; you’re delusional. Don’t blame the player, blame the coach that got caught with his 4th line against the other team’s best line.

  30. Forum Dog says:

    Anybody know what Torterella’s problem is? Missed the start of that game, so all I know is that he has completely lost his tish…..

  31. Rosieman says:

    I played and I couldn’t for the life of me play the off side – it’s obvious Emelin has same prob – put him back he’s be fine.

    As for the rest – wow – Gorges looked lost too tonight.

    I don’t get Parros – he’s just awful. I don’t get Bournival not getting ice time. I don’t get Bourque averaging 15 mins a game all the time THEN healthy scratch.

    I don’t get how pitifully small this team. And Frankie B – bless him but he’s done. I don’t get Moen either.

    Price Subban pleks and a few others hide a lot of crap here

    And lastly – I don’t get letting a punk like Kadri run your guys all night – hard to watch.

    They will be tight to make playoffs but I’d like to have an intelligent coach too.

  32. Habcouver says:

    Vancouver Calgary game and in between period are so fight filled!

    Waiting patiently for #25

  33. Mavid says:

    Torts trying to get into the Calgary dressing room WTF?

    Weed Wacker Grandma Smurf

  34. B says:

    Bozon gets his 19th and adds an assist as Kootenay beats Swift Current 5-2.

    –Go Habs Go!–

  35. CJ says:

    Parity is the name of the game. Five points separate the fifth place team and the twelfth place team. Thirteenth place Carolina is seven points back with two games in hand.

    When you have two evenly matched teams, you simply can not afford to be so neglectful in the defensive zone. We could have gotten at least a point, perhaps two. We can not afford to throw points away. It’s a tough loss considering we battled back from a two goal games.

    Nothing can be done to change this outcome now. Need to move forward and continue to assess our personnel. Is it just me or is there a direct correlation between Bergevin signing contracts and the player going MIA? Emelin has just fallen apart.

    • mksness says:

      parity…kinda. that stinker loser point in overtime is kinda creating the parity.

      can be fixed easily:

      3 points for a win

      2 for a overtime/shootout win
      1 for the overtime/shootout loss

      • DickandDanny says:

        So, what was wrong with the old way. You tied you tied. No OT, No shootouts. No second chances. Done. Tie.

        “A cannonading blast from the wing, by Lafleur”

        • mksness says:

          i don’t have a problem with that either. but i actually like the shootout lol gonna get killed for it but i find it fun and exciting. i would make it a 5 round skills competition though.

          • DickandDanny says:

            I guess that is the difference between an old purist like myself and the younger generation. i don’t need shenanigans and sideshows to make it a good hockey game.

            “A cannonading blast from the wing, by Lafleur”

        • Mattyleg says:

          I love the tie.

          Sometimes teams play equally well.
          Hockey’s rules were modeled after rugby (hence the old ‘only back-passes-allowed’ rules), which allows ties, as does soccer (except in the World Cup), and I don’t know why we had to change things to be more American.

          It’s beyond me.

          —Hope Springs Eternal—

    • NightRyder says:

      Lousy coaching and a collection of seventh defencemen will translate into problems over an 82-game season.

    • DickandDanny says:

      Excellent post. Well said. The Markov blunder was a huge mistake in a game we can ill afford to at least not garner a point. You cannot throw points awy in a close game against a division rival. I would not expect such criticism for a kid like Beaulieau however Markov is a vet and wears an A on his jersey. Tonight’s loss is on him, Gorges and Emelin no question. And Lars, well he is just useless. -3. Says it all right there.

      “A cannonading blast from the wing, by Lafleur”

      • olematelot says:

        Eller has the flu, maybe he shouldn’t have played.

      • CJ says:

        Losing the point is a tough pill to swallow, especially for those guys who work their butts off. I can’t imagine how a guy like PK would feel. He leaves it all on the ice. If possible, I’d find a way to give him more ice time, at every other defence men’s expense.

      • Billyboy says:

        Lars did not play well last night, but this is not his usual performance. I suspect the flu was one of his problems. His coach is mostly the problem. Every time he goes on the ice, it seems he has two different partners or playing a different position.
        He played better on the line with Pleks and Gionta but that
        only lasted for a couple of shifts. And you can’t tell me that he
        is not as good on the PP as Briere. At least Eller passes the puck to
        his own players not the opposition. Eller never gets the opportunity
        to play on the PP now except the last 15-20 seconds.

    • CJ says:

      Sorry, my mistake. It’s actually only four points separating fifth and twelfth.

  36. habsfan0 says:

    I rather suspect Timo wasn’t overly impressed tonight.

  37. NightRyder says:

    Therrien said he liked the way the team played tonight.

    He’s either delusional, desperate or both.

    He has to go. It’s time.

    Carbo II: The Sequel for the rest of the year.

    • DDO_Habs_Fan says:

      This off-season MT is either getting an extension or getting the axe. Probably the latter if the same result in the playoffs…

    • DickandDanny says:

      Other than some huge blunders by our D we actually competed ok for the most part. We are lacking, size, skill and offensive threats. If we could address those three needs by bringing in one or two really good players i think we might be ok. Part with some draft pick and go get some gifted, skillful, intelligent players and rid ourselves of guys who have no idea how to play the game of hockey, ie Eller, Bourque, Diaz, Gorges, etc………

      “A cannonading blast from the wing, by Lafleur”

      • Mattyleg says:

        This is the best post I’ve seen you write!

        I agree with you almost completely, apart from getting rid of draft picks… I think some clever trades could do the same thing without picks (or, maybe late picks).

        Gorges knows what he’s doing, and he’s a good Dman, but he needs someone with size to take some of the stay-at-home duties off his shoulders.

        —Hope Springs Eternal—

        • DickandDanny says:

          Yes, Gorges can be useful but I couldn’t understand MT playing Gorges on both sides of the ice tonight? That was weird. And he was the direct cause of goal #2. He didn’t clear the zone when he had ample time to make a pass. Otherwise he was decent defensively. Offensively he has no clue.

          “A cannonading blast from the wing, by Lafleur”

          • Mattyleg says:

            Yes. Lost in the o-zone, for sure, and I don’t know what the deal with both sides of the ice was, but there must have been something behind it…

            —Hope Springs Eternal—

        • NightRyder says:

          Gorges is a third-pairing d-man at best.

          • Mattyleg says:

            He’s proven that he’s better than that, but he needs another big presence to help him out.

            —Hope Springs Eternal—

        • CJ says:

          This I agree with. As difficult as it sounds, we need to be patient. We aren’t about to mortgage the future to patch the existing leaks. In the interim, get Emelin on his correct side.

    • Habilis says:

      I’m with you dude. It boggles my mind that MT could be satisfied with that game.

      Unfortunately, MB doesn’t seem to be of the same mindset as us.

  38. Storman says:

    How is this for a tough to take BIG Time Pisser,, Kellan Lain of the Vancouver Canucks finally gets his first NHL game after playing 3 years Junior A Hockey for the Oakville Blades in Ontario, followed by a 3 year year stint in the NCAA with Lake Superior State. One year in the AHL with the Chicago Wolves, started this year in the AHL with Utica Comets, finally after all that get called up to the show first NHL game ,, bring all the family and friends up from Oakville to Vancouver,, to see your NHL dream come true and you get ejected 2 seconds into the game,, FFFFFFFFFFFF ME

  39. DDO_Habs_Fan says:

    Here we go about the D again. Gorges is not a top 2 D-man. When is MT and JJ going to understand that Emelin is not a right-side D-man??? This team has too many LH D-men (prospects Tinordi and Beaulieu included). What is frustrating is that I don’t see this ever getting better in the short term. The only other RH D-man is Diaz and he will probably get dealt. This mess is on MB. If you’re not going to bring up Pateryn then make a deal to bring in some help.

    • Mattyleg says:

      The biggest problem is our forwards backchecking rather than our D.

      Defensemen aren’t supposed to be the ones covering the slot, and that’s where most opposing players have been taking pot-shots from recently, including Kessel on the first goal tonight.

      —Hope Springs Eternal—

      • DDO_Habs_Fan says:

        Kadri walked around a forward??? The mistakes were made by D-men that resulted in most of the goals. As for the non-backchecking forwards, DD is the worst. This is the type of team they have unfortunately built.

        • Mattyleg says:

          I think you decided to deliberately misinterperet what I said.

          I didn’t say that all the goals were the fault of the forwards, nor that the defence didn’t make any mistakes.

          This isn’t the ‘team they have built’. You’re being overly-negative.

          We had one of the best defensive records in the NHL earlier in the season. We’ve been trying for more offense, and that’s why there have been defensive lapses by our forwards.

          DD has 23 points in the last 28 games. He can be forgiven for being late on the back-check. Others, less so.

          —Hope Springs Eternal—

        • olematelot says:

          waaaah!!

  40. Habilis says:

    And after that, Therrien says the Habs played a good game.

    I can’t even.

    So disappointing that MB continues to put his faith in this man.

    • Mattyleg says:

      I thought we played a good game too…

      Would have been happier if we’d won, but I thought it was a good, close game.

      —Hope Springs Eternal—

      • CJ says:

        It was. Coming back from two deficits, one of which was two goals is not easy. We were the better team for long stretches of play. Three breakdowns each found their way into the back of our net. It’s really as simple as that.

      • Habcouver says:

        … but losing to the Laffs always suck a bit more than others.

        Waiting patiently for #25

        • Mattyleg says:

          Yeah, totally.

          But we have lost against the Leafs so much for the past few years that I’ve got kind of inured to it. They always bring their AA++ game to play the Habs, and then they lose a pile afterwards because they were so heavily emotionally invested in beating us, while we don’t really care that much.

          —Hope Springs Eternal—

      • Habilis says:

        We were demolished in the first and the rest of the game was pretty even.

        Against a team as crappy as the Leafs, that’s just not good enough in my eyes. I guess Therrien has lower standards.

        • Mattyleg says:

          I don’t think we were demolished, and we came back well.

          Don’t take it so hard, mate. He obviously wants better out of his players, and I thought we played a better game tonight than we did on Tuesday and Thursday.

          —Hope Springs Eternal—

  41. Mondou6 says:

    Last 10 games:

    L-L-W-L-W-L-W-L-W-L

  42. DickandDanny says:

    Make a trade, Bergevin. I don’t care who, just anyone, or anything so I can read something positive about this team in the paper tomorrow. Here is partial list for you in case you don’t know who s**ks on our roster:
    Bourque
    Eller
    Diaz
    Briere
    Gorges
    and I finally have to admit the coach sucked also tonight. The line combinations, other than the first and second lines was putrid. And the D pairings were also terrible and it showed.

    “A cannonading blast from the wing, by Lafleur”

  43. Savardian Spin-o-rama says:

    Just announced on rds, Nate and the other guy are going back to Hamilton.

  44. CH Marshall says:

    Checked in every period on here, kinda glad I was working tonight

  45. jmac21 says:

    Gally was moved to DD line and saved his season 20pts since Gally got on his line MT son keeps his job. Without Gally, DD and Patches still in a slump. Eller’s been MT whipping boy since he got there so it’s fine if the EGG line is gone as long as DD is looking better he’s French not Danish lol
    The kids holding the flags at the bell centre would knock DD off the puck

  46. BCG says:

    Final comment for the night – imagine if Subban did what these goalies did – from Brodeur to Roy. The S**T would hit the fan!!! With no mention that he’s “passionate”. Just “cocky”.

    http://deadspin.com/14-minutes-of-pissed-of-goalies-delivers-what-it-prom-1504079048?utm_campaign=socialflow_deadspin_facebook&utm_source=deadspin_facebook&utm_medium=socialflow

  47. C-Sword says:

    Beaulieu just got sent back down to the Dogs, I’m hoping that they give Tinordi another try soon.

  48. Habitant in Surrey says:

    …2 seconds …6 players ejected :)

  49. Coach K says:

    I didn’t see the game…was at a Pete’s game where goal scoring was not a problem. But I’m inferring from the commentariat that Markov and Emellin were paired together again tonight? If so, I have to wonder why? Why would any NHL coach with half a brain put a pair of defenceman together who both have reconstructed ACLs? Has it not occurred to him that both of them are likely playing with a brace that is required in order to protect those rebuilt knees? We billeted a Jr. player who wore a brace for 3 years after his ACL repair on the orders of his surgeon. His mobility was definitely impaired. Has it not occurred to him that those braces probably impair their ability to pivot or achieve a full stride? Has it not occurred to him that maybe they should always be paired with someone more fleet of foot? Has it not occurred to him that maybe he’s setting them and the team up for failure?
    It makes me wonder what actually does occur to him…
    —When Hell freezes over, I’ll play hockey there too—

    • twilighthours says:

      I can’t argue, I’d rather see different pairings.

      But the players gotta play. Emelin, markov, and gorges all made terrible mistakes, the likes of which cannot be blamed on coaching.

      • CJ says:

        Agreed. This loss was not on Therien. Parros blew a coverage, and Emelin was directly responsible for two goals against. I have no issue calling the coach onto the carpet, but sometimes it just seems too convenient. For example, critiquing the time when Price was pulled. I personally think that’s a bit ticky tack.

  50. habsfan0 says:

    ” Brendan Gallagher, Brian Gionta and David Desharnais scored for the Canadiens.”

    All 4’11″.

    Maybe MB does know what he’s doing.

  51. WAR72 says:

    Get this team on track with these simple steps-
    1. Day off tomorrow
    2. Baseball on ice monday
    3. Day off tuesday
    Repeat

  52. Habilis says:

    No games till we play Pittsburgh on Wednesday. Long week ahead.

  53. Habitant in Surrey says:

    …2seconds into Flames Canuckleheads game …8 in the box after line brawl

    …Stomping’ Tom Conners looking’ down from Heaven with a quiet smile

  54. WhatUp says:

    I would like to see what Emelin can do on the left side…he is starting to worry me.. would be interested in a trade..wonder what Eller would fetch. like the guy but he is not a genuine top 6 (more like a 40pts potential) and we could use a legit winger to play with Plecks…right now the main threat comes from the DD line with Plecks line in 2nd. that;s not too good and a reason why Habs are 28th on 5 on 5 scoring

    • piper says:

      good idea, lets get smaller.

      • WhatUp says:

        how bout a big winger

        • piper says:

          Habs have been too small down the middle for years now.

          • WhatUp says:

            agreed but Eller is a 3rd line center not top 6..if we could add something and get a sized top 6 winger then we should do it..all the scoring wingers in Hamilton are small (Thomas, Andrighetto,etc + the ones in the other leagues as also small (Reway, Lekhonen, Colbert, Hudon, etc)..only McCarron has a shot of making a difference and he is not a slam dunk – we need a big winger and Eller may very well be the best trading chip

    • jols101 says:

      You want to trade Eller? Funny. This team needs to dump tiny tot DD. Now that he is getting some points another GM might be brain dead enough to take him.
      This team isn’t going anywhere till Galchenyuk gets used the way DD is being used. Preferred minutes and top PP time. Till then we are just spinning our wheels.

    • showey47 says:

      Eller was at worst our 2nd best center when the EGG line was intact. But for some reason MT moved gally to the DD line.

      • Mattyleg says:

        I’m not sure the EGG line would have stuck it.
        Rookies (and sophomores) have a habit of flaring up at the beginning of the season and then disappering as the season goes on.

        I called this when they were doing well, and I don’t believe that keeping the line together would have changed anything except DD and Max might never have woken up!

        —Hope Springs Eternal—

  55. Habitant in Surrey says:

    …let’s waste no more time and cut the crap …let Beaulieu, Pateryn and Tinordi learn in the NHL

    …sick of watching Boullion Diaz and Murray …ol’ glue horse, cheese fondue and the ol’ lamp post preventing Us from having a sized fast D corps that can compliment Our speed offense

    …had lots of hope for Diaz …Diaz is not half bad if complimented by a physical but skilled partner, but time for Pateryn, Beaulieu and Tinordi to learn the NHL ropes

    • CJ says:

      Agreed completely. Let’s immerse them now. It let’s us make a key decision on Markov in advance of him going to market as a UFA.

    • mksness says:

      if you play all the rookies on D you better expect to lose a ton and scrap the season as well as piss off price. Beaulieu has a ton to learn and tinordi doesn’t have nhl speed or positioning yet. if you rush them you might end up just running them out of town in the pressure cooker of mtl

      • DickandDanny says:

        If Price isn’t pissed off by now nothing will. I bet he is counting the rings he could have had by now.

        “A cannonading blast from the wing, by Lafleur”

        • mksness says:

          well right now, price should be happy with his D. they block a ton of shots and the team for the most part is focused on protecting the net.( they might not do it well). bring up 3 rookies and it’ll be a long few years. Defence men take a bit longer to adjust to the speed up in the nhl.

      • CJ says:

        Your points are valid, however it’s becoming painfully evident that Diaz, Georges, Bouilion, Emelin and Murray are either playing out of position, are not insulated or just frankly aren’t good enough.

        I want to win as bad as anyone else, but our existing roster is not getting the job done. I can’t see our problems being addressed via trade unless they are willing to part with picks and or prospects. By default, you need to look within the organization. I agree, there would be short term growing pains, but more upside long term.

        • mksness says:

          Well here’s the thing, a good GM trades picks and players for upgrades. not all of our picks are going to be super stars. so it’s time to make some moves.

          either make changes and rebuild or speed another 4-5 years of being a middle of the pack team which will really only make a run in the playoffs when a goalie gets hot

          • CJ says:

            Agreed, but you want to trade from a position of strength, not weakness. We will need to be patient.

            If a deal is there for the taking I’m sure Bergevin will pull the trigger.

          • mksness says:

            might have to wait a while for this position of so called strength. lol

    • Old Bald Bird says:

      One should have been here from the beginning IMO. Work one in at a time.

    • Forum Dog says:

      lol…the ol’ glue horse….

      I agree. Other organizations let their kids play. See Ottawa and Ceci. You live with their mistakes because of what they gain in experience, and what they bring in enthusiasm and upside. Bouillion makes his share of mistakes, but there is no upside. Contracts and conscience prevent it though. Imagine what would happen to the Dogs if they lost those three guys at once, especially if the Habs can’t send the vets back the other way. And Bergevin probably has verbal agreements with most of them that they won’t be send to the AHL. Barring a trade, all the young lads will get (until next year) is little tastes here and there.

  56. Danno says:

    Losing against the Leafs…
    ‘Tis an ill wind that blows no good.

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  57. DickandDanny says:

    I would love to know what a guy like Bergevin, who is supposed to be a hockey smart guy, one who played many years in the league, and helped build a winner in Chicago thinks about this team. I’d love to be a fly on the wall in his office. I really hope he has a master plan because this team is going no where fast, except maybe out of the play-offs within the next 2-3 weeks.

    “A cannonading blast from the wing, by Lafleur”

    • Mondou6 says:

      I don’t think there anything is about this current roster that can be fixed in 2-3 weeks. I’d rather bag the playoffs this year, if it means improving the team next year. Rather than mortgaging the future, again, for a 8 seed and first round exit.

      I want a contender, not a perennial bubble team, like Toronto.

      • DickandDanny says:

        What is tanking going to accomplish? A higher draft pick? One who won’t play in the NHL for 3-5 years. Enough waiting already. If the GM can’t re-build on the fly then find one who can. Other teams are able to do that consistently. Find out what you need and go after it. And give up some over over rated players in the process….Eller, Bourque, Diaz, Gorges, and see what you can find for them.

        “A cannonading blast from the wing, by Lafleur”

  58. Laramy87 says:

    So I hate complaining about the refs. But gunnarsson interfered with gallagher and no call. Puck goes up the ice and goal. Yes shotty d and coverage. But it happened on kessel goal too. Its a bit frustrating for sure. Call it all or call nothing.Emelin got called for his interference and it was less than gunnarrson

  59. NightRyder says:

    If Hartley gets the sack, I’ll take him over Therrien anytime. Orchestrated line brawls remain awesome!

  60. jols101 says:

    Good ol’ fashion line brawl right off the opening face off in the Flames/Nucks game.

    More excitement in the first 2 seconds than he entire Leafs/Habs game.
    If you like that type of thing. lol.

  61. AH says:

    Yup there’s the NHL line brawl to start the game and all the announcers yukking it up. Pathetic. National Goon League.

  62. habsfan0 says:

    So,who’s a healthy scratch next game?

  63. twilighthours says:

    Habs were fine tonight, apart from the terrible plays by markov, emelin, gorges.

  64. Plekasuares says:

    Oh and Nathan rllly sucked

  65. habfan100 says:

    This game could have easily been 6-2 or something, It’s no doubt the Leafs have some good firepower up front. If it wasn’t for Carey Price this team would be in the basement of the standings. If either of these teams make the playoffs it will be a first round victory at most. As good as Carey Price is, this team is due to burn out come playoff time. Sure you will have guys like Gallagher giving it 110% but you’ll see the floaters and the burn out.

    What would you guys do with Markov? How many of you would sign him to 3 Years $18M contract?

  66. AH says:

    Markov, Gionta, Gorges, Boillion, Diaz, Briere, DD, Parros, and MT all need to go, and then maybe just maybe some progress will be made.

    Our D was and is pathetic. Wake up MB!

  67. HardHabits says:

    I didn’t like the line combos. For the life of me I don’t why the Habs did not dress Murray. Emelin on his wrong side. Eller on wing. Prust taking face-offs. Briere on the 4th line. You can see that half the team is not comfortable with their assigned roles. Therrien trying to fit round pegs in square holes.

  68. CJ says:

    I gotta be honest, I thought that was a decent game in terms of compete level. We struggled in the first, but found a way to capitalize on the PP. We were the better team for long stretches in the second, while the Leafs were opportunistic with their chances. We rallied from two goals down and appeared to control the play in the third, aside from a single shift when the Leafs sustained pressure for 30 seconds. In a game pitting two evenly matched teams, you simply can not afford to get burned defensively the way we do. Emelin, I’m sorry, was horrible. Bouilion is no longer an NHL quality defencemen. Parros, as much as I like the guy, has no business being on the ice when the face off is either at centre ice or in our end. He is just not positionally sound and two steps behind.

    I liked Beaulieu, including the mistakes he made. I can live with the growing pains. I can not accept the mistakes from the above mentioned veterans.

  69. Plekasuares says:

    Refs were absolutely crap. I was at the game and could not believe the missed interference calls

  70. Chuck says:

    Seems like they’ve given up a LOT of tap-in goals over the last little while. Our defensive coverage is making it way to easy on the opposition, and way too tough on our goalies.

    • CJ says:

      Agreed. Our defence is hurting. PK and Markov aside they add nothing offensively. Bad combination.

    • Mondou6 says:

      Yeah, not to mention there was one easy gimme/tap-in that a Leaf player missed earlier in the game. Price came over to make a nice stop, but in reality, the Leaf just flat out fanned on the puck or it was in the back of the net.

  71. Blondie says:

    What the hell was that? (anthem)

  72. NightRyder says:

    Nothing a new coach and an actual NHL defence corps couldn’t fix.

  73. Danno says:

    I hate losing against the Leafs.

    It sucks from head to toe.

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    • Habcouver says:

      It’ll be sweet to see the teams pass them for the wildcard position.
      I’m pulling for Columbus and NJ to pass them in a few weeks.

      Waiting patiently for #25

  74. habs001 says:

    Eller -3…Maxpac -2 and Emelin -2…..


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