Liveblog: Game 17 – Losing streak hits four as Canadiens bow 4-1 to Senators

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Four unanswered

Goaltender Robin Lehner made 33 saves and his Ottawa teammates made the most of their opportunities.

Andrei Markov scored the first goal of the game during a first-period play.

But Bobby Ryan tied it at 1-1 28 seconds later, and Ottawa took control with two goals in 37 second-period seconds. Defencemen Mark Methot and Mark Borowiecki took advantage of confusion in the defensive zone and screens in front of Carey Price.

Kyle Turris added an empty-netter.

robin Lehner made 33 saves, 25 over the final 40 minutes.

The Senators had 23 shots on Carey Price.

 

 

Senators hold the fort

Ottawa maintained its lead, and Kyle Turris added an empty-netter.

Robin Lehner's excellence snuffed any hope of a CH comeback.

Two quick ones

Ottawa defencemen scored twice in 37 seconds to give the Senbators the lead.

Andrei Markov cleared a rebound directly to Mark Methot, who blasted it past Carey Price.

Then Mark Borowiecki scored the first of his NHL career, and the Canadiens were shellshocked.

Robin Lehner made 14 saves in the second period.

Price was beaten twice on six shots.

Short-lived celebration

Twenty-eight seconds.

Barely enough time to crack a beer.

That's how long the Canadiens' lead lasted.

After Andrei Markov blasted one past Robin Lehner on a beautifully executed power play, Bobby Ryan used a Kyle Turris screen to fire one past Carey Price.

Canadiens outshot the Senators 9-7.

Rivalry resumes

They played back-to-back exhibition games in September, but the Thursday evening dance at Canadian Tire Place is the first REAL hockey game between the Canadiens and Senators since the Eastern Conference quarter-final series last spring.

And we all remember how that ended: the Senators celebrating a five-game series win after dealing the home team a 6-1 pasting at the Bell Centre.

There have been some changes since that bitterly-fought series, which included the Eric Gryba head shot that knocked Lars Eller out of the playoffs in Game 1 and a line brawl in Game 3.

Daniel F. Alfredsson is no longer a Senator. George Parros is a Canadien.

The rivalry is not as intense as Montreal-Boston or the Battle of Ontario. But the Canadiens and Senators could find themselves in a tight, season-long battle for an Eastern Conference playoff berth.

Michel Therrien has shuffled his forward lines again: Mac Pacioretty joins Tomas Plekanec and Brian Gionta, Lars Eller is reunited with Brendan Gallagher and Alex Galchenyuk, David Desharnais returns to the lineup between Michaëel Bournival and Rene Bourque, Travis Moen is back and will play with Ryan White and George Parros.

 

1,122 Comments

  1. The Jackal says:

    Man, they say you should read to get smarter, but there are times you can get dumber by reading.

    If you want to avoid that, don’t read HIO after a loss, specially not during a losing streak. Almost every comment is of the asinine variety, which if not for the fact that they are made in an angry outburst, suggest the authors are dumb as hell. Then again, does the pervasiveness of these comments suggest that that is their regular statement of mind? For their sake, I hope not.

    Hopefully there will be a semblance of sanity tomorrow morning.
    But remember, you of the doomsday crowd, these kinds of comments are worthless and drive away any kind of worthwhile discussion on the Habs and hockey. Maybe don’t post if you have nothing to say other than than how sucky the sucky team is under the sucky management because they suck.

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  2. Man Dingga says:

    The players are a reflection of their coach. Personally I feel Therrien has lost the room. Throwing PK into the fire this past week was not a good message. I know they are professionals but the core of this team is still young. Look what’s happening in Colorado, Roy has them working hard in practice and it shows in their play. Roy also defends his players, he’s not throwing them under the bus. I also realize the Avs have a few more superstars then us but I love how they compete and skate. They are a big, fast and a skilled team. Something has to change.

  3. scotland says:

    hey desert man…….. agree it wont happen overnight……..but it will never happen with therrien behind the bench. so yea everyone makes mistakes….like hiring therrien over a slue of better coaches.

  4. Chuck says:

    Man, this team has sucked offensively since Briere went down. :)

    And do you think that we could get Hamrlik and Spacek to un-retire?

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    Anything is possible.

  5. Rosieman says:

    How much longer do we have to watch Bourque float around? It’s a joke – you don’t have to hammer people just finish. MaxPac too

    Why would you break up Bournival Gio and Pleks line?

    Dump Diaz, Bouillon, Moen, Bourque , DD, white to start

    It’s become a mess fast. Bergevin needs to do something soon

    • SUMO says:

      Don’t forget Briere is coming back too……..

    • etcheverry92 says:

      Don’t panic – the New York Islanders will provide the cure on Sunday. While the Islanders have pretty good personnel, they have no goaltending. Nabokov is atrocious and the nicest thing that can be said about Kevin Poulin is that he is”unproven” . Anybody upset with Bergevin, just has to take a look at Garth Snow.

  6. scotland says:

    diaz played more than pk tuesday night. only an idiot would let that happen

  7. desertman says:

    Oh no run for cover the world is ending, the habs lost!!!

    jeez, u guys need to relax. We are still a .500 team. We all know we don’t have a stanley cup team yet, bergevin made that explicitly clear last season at the trade deadline. There are clearly improvements that need to be made, and the necessary changes will be made. The cube and murray were signed because tinordi and bealieu aren’t ready. They are merely place holders. Briere was a calculated gamble that hasn’t paid off… thus far. DD was not a smart signing, but ALL GM’s make mistakes.

    Everyone chill out and enjoy the ride. In the meantime, enjoy the greatest commercial of all time; Discovery channel: “I love the whole world, bommdiyada”

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EC-jau-fpJY

    Thanks Scotland for reminding me: MT sucks. that i completely agree with!

  8. scotland says:

    glad its an olympic year. cant watch this team lose the same way year after year.

    could someone tell mt that brian gionta is not a top 6 forward in the nhl any more. he will be the last to know it when he should have been the first for christ sakes. and get him off the powerplay!!!!

  9. Garbo says:

    Karlsson had two horrible giveaways in the first period that led to chances for the Habs. Where’s the controversy?

    If that was PK, he would have been roasted on every major network and blog from coast to coast. Why the different treatment…

    So stupid all this completely fabricated controversy. PK’s our best player… by a MILE. Everyone knows it, including MT and MB. If you think otherwise, I advise you take your head out of your …

    • Adidess says:

      Bergy of all people was making the same point tonight on RDS and the entire Antichambre panel agreed that this microscopic examination and subsequent pillory of PK for every mistake big and small is ridiculous (though I believe they contributed to it to an extent). Nobody else in the league is expected to be perfect on D, not Chara, not Suter, not Keith, not Karlsson. That’s PK’s cross I guess, I don’t know that he has any choice other than to bear it, deal with it.

  10. scotland says:

    musical chairs with the lines again. did anyone else notice that pleks gionta, pax absolutely stunk. only time pleks got going this year was with bournival. mt could not leave that alone. why not leave the players alone for awhile. everybody has played with everybody by the 15 game mark.

    GALAGHER ELAR GALCHENYUK
    PAX DD BOURQUE
    BORNIVAL PLEKS GIONTA

    barring injury……LEAVE THOSE THREE LINE TOGETHER FOR A MONTH SOLID AND TELL THERRIEN TO STAY THE HECK OUT OF THE WAY !!!!!!!!!!

    as i said oct 1st…..this team will battle for last and atleast pick top 5 in june.

    lose respect for mb every day that mt remains bench boss.

  11. 416erHabsFan says:

    I like Parros but his stats don’t lie.
    I wish we had four EGG lines
    Gallager should be our Captain, Yes right now.
    Put P.K on Forward as he is our main dependent for offense.
    Markov seems to be waking up from hibernation (which is a good thing!)
    Carey is Carey.
    Our coach? No comment.

  12. Habitant in Surrey says:

    …well, ok, just one little bon mot

    …does putrid rhyme with McDavid ?

  13. Corson27 says:

    Keep the faith fellow hab fans we will contend in 3 to 5 years, wait I think I heard that also back in the Komi and Higgins era….oh well.

  14. Habitant in Surrey says:

    …I’m not going say much because likely its been said already

  15. HardHabits says:

    Makes me think of the Tanking™ year slogan… Writhe Together!!

  16. DDO_Habs_Fan says:

    You know the Habs are playing bad when Timo’s criticisms are true. After a certain point a coach has to look at himself instead of blaming his players. Therrien made the same mistake two games in a row…he put on the 4th line at the wrong time. The Walrus may be a low-life-d-bag but he is Scotty Bowman compared to MT. He couldn’t have possibly thrown his 1st line out fast enough when MT threw out the 4th line right after the Sens took a 2-1 lead. The GM needs to stop making commercials and shopping for fancy suits and have a talk with his coach.

  17. port elgin says:

    Why couldn’t we get Bobby Ryan?

  18. Hockey Bob says:

    When the habs won their last cup I was in pull ups when they win it again I might be back to diapers.

  19. HabinBurlington says:

    On a different note, I thought Rex Murphy was excellent on the National tonight. His perspective on the Ford circus was very good I thought.

  20. fastfreddy says:

    When the Habs get a better GM,and a real coach, they’ll be better, but until that happens…………….

    CH = Les Glorieux!!!

  21. Lil Snapper says:

    I think tonight was the truning point of the season where we lost all expectations for this team, not that they were great expectations to begin with. Another season to sit back and wonder wtf this organization will do to destroy our hopes again. I am getting sick of Montreal Hockey, what a disgrace this organizstion has become, we are the laughing stock of Hockey. When is the last time this team had a superstar?? When has a cup been won by a team with without a superstar, sell the veterans on veterans day! We Suck!

    • kalevine says:

      no superstars is a problem for the fans, but a team of hard workers can overcome that, or at least make it look a lot better than what we are seeing

      • Lil Snapper says:

        Superstar or difference maker, we havent had any consistency at all. Guys have good seasons but no one ever has back to back seasons. Just awful drafting and awful scouting all around. There have been a few good ones that were scouted and drafted but compared to our competition, we are slacking hard.

      • ShootThePuck says:

        There’s only 1 way to get a super star. You have to finish last and get close to the first pick. How do you think chicago got there? The Habs got 3rd choice in Galchenyuk. At 19 he’s 3rd scorer for the Habs. He’s a teenager, wait till he becomes an adult. The habs need to finish last again. Gal will need help.

    • Hockey Bob says:

      Agree, how much longer do I have to hear 3 more years? it don’t matter who is calling the shots this team continues to make bad decisions in players and coaches and maybe GM.

    • shlamiel says:

      Well said Lil Snapper.

  22. port elgin says:

    Your girlfriend is right….size matters

    Habs don’t have it.

    • kalevine says:

      yes but it’s also what you do with it, and the habs…oh never mind

    • JM says:

      They won’t beat any tough teams Ottawa is a fine example. They play scared because physically most of them are injury prone. when they play soft teams even if they are better they always have a 50-50 chance of winning …. we have some talent but no good against a physical team.

  23. Adidess says:

    I know DD is rotten right now, but does anyone notice how he’s done progressively worse playing under MT? It could be the contract, could be that he’s just lost it for no specific reason, or it could be that MT’s offensive scheme doesn’t suit him.

    In fact, the coincidence is that more key players have played worse under MT than have flourished. Pleks, Gionta, DD, Patches, Gorges have performed worse since MT became coach. Key players who have played well: the young guys (Eller, Gallys, Emelin, PK) I give him some credit for that, though there is no true baseline, hard to know whether these guys would not have had the same progression under a different coach. MT is not the only reason those veterans aren’t doing well, but clearly he’s not equipping them enough to succeed. Is MT the reason the young guys are doing good? Maybe.

    I don’t see his true value added to the team, especially being such a hardass. But I don’t really like the coach, so I am biased.

  24. habstrinifan says:

    On a sad note, Tony Dorset diagnosed with Chronic traumatic encephalopathy, which could be the result of concussions.

    He was a beautiful player to watch.

    • fastfreddy says:

      yes he was, tremendous runner.

      CH = Les Glorieux!!!

    • HabinBurlington says:

      Despite being a Steeler fan, Dorset was one of my all time favourites, perhaps more so than Franco. He indeed was beautiful to watch, sad news.

    • savethepuck says:

      I know this post was nearly an hour ago, but sad news for sure. One of the all- time great running backs. With news like this, I find it hard to read the posts with hopes that our goon beats up their goon, or we get payback on this guy or that guy for this cheap shot or that cheap shot.

      “They don’t hang Conference Championship Banners from the rafters here”
      Carey Price

  25. port elgin says:

    Boullion must have a video of Therrien that is worse than any Rob Ford video.

  26. fastfreddy says:

    This team needs major adjustments for next season.
    CH = Les Glorieux!!!

  27. Rocket Riot says:

    Ottawa sucks but we are truly embarrassing. Here’s to tanking and dumping anybody (dd, moen, gorges, diaz, parros, bouillon, murray, bourque, gio, markov and even pleks) for decent draft picks in pursuit of a complete rebuild centered around our existing youth. If MB cannot lock in subban long term before the trade deadline this year trade him too and fire MT. I won’t be wasting hope for the short term…

  28. danhabsfan says:

    Who did MT blame tonight…. Prob Gally for the penalties

  29. CHicoHab says:

    MT said he thought PK’s 9 shots on goal were not good enough tonite.

  30. SUMO says:

    TOI
    Bouillon – 16:55, -3 (Worst +/- on the team -8)
    Murray – 09:40, Even
    Gorges – 18:29, -2
    Diaz – 20:11, -1

    Markov – 27:39, -2
    Subban – 27:09, -1 (He was used 1:01SH)

    **Emelin is back soon but shouldn’t Pateryn get a shot? Does Therrien owe Bouillon $$ or somethin?

  31. TheMostCupsPeriod says:

    SOS – we dictate the pace
    Couldn’t finish

  32. kalevine says:

    is anyone getting the press conference? what has MT said?

  33. CHicoHab says:

    Hard to believe an owner as successful as Molson can’t find a way to make their hockey team just as successful. On the ice that is.

  34. Adidess says:

    Haha, you’re funny. I know you think fights=goals, but that’s not how the rest of the league keeps score. Patches is primarily a scorer. He’s not firing on all cylinders right now (injury might be the cause), but my expectations are not that he fights. I want him to hit the net.

    Edit: The post to which this responds has been modded.

  35. rljmartin says:

    Here’s a thought…. Maybe it was Cole all along who carried Max and DD in their record year.

    • AH says:

      Yes it’s just a thought, but a totally accurate one! Patches is way overrated, DD is an AHLer, and remember Patches is the guy who said DD was the best center he’s every played with! LOL! Wow, I’d hate to see some of the worst ones!

    • Steven says:

      DD maybe, not sure about Patches. He was off to a great start before Chara committed the “hockey play”, and then led the team in points last year, even with missing a lot of games to an appendectomy and having that awful start.

      I think that’s a big enough sample size to judge him on. He’s the real deal.

      DD is kind of not very good at all, though.

  36. habcertain says:

    did you see at the end of the game when we were a man short, JJ checking MT: hey, were down, should be put dat PK guy on da h’ice?

  37. Jdub1985 says:

    1993 – magical Cinderella story
    1994 to 2001 – lottery
    2002 to 2013 – mediocrity

    Now what?

  38. JM says:

    Here’s our team:

    Galchenyuk – Plekanec – Gallagher
    Bournival – Eller – Gionta

    Subban – Markov – Price

    By the way MT that would be my 1st two lines any players not mentioned is Deadwood ….

  39. CH Marshall says:

    Well folks good night. I hope MOLSON is upset.

  40. RAM_TOUGH says:

    Just as well cancel RDS & save some coin.

    Guts-Glory-Ram

  41. Adidess says:

    I am so glad the results from last year helped set performance expectations for the team and MT going forward. If we finish out of the playoffs, somebody is gone. And I am sure it won’t be Price or PK or Patches or Galchenyuk.

  42. habcertain says:

    disinterested play like we saw tonight is the domain of the coach, I’m sure he will throw someone under the bus though. we have lost all creativity, playing in fear, not good

  43. ccs says:

    Lets just say another few loses were to bring about the firing of MT who out there would be a good replacement? And I really miss having Prust in the line up. I know he would have had more than just words with a few of the sens for going after gally.

    • habstrinifan says:

      That’s a very hard question to answer now. He needs to be French. HIO can holler all they want they wont hire a non-french coach… so that is the chief requirement. The only person I could think of who would at least bring some fun hockey back is Carbonneau. Maybe Carbonneau could convince that guy from San Jose to join him.

  44. Lil Snapper says:

    The Habs are the most mediocre team in the NHL, Nothing great, nothing too terrible, simply mediocre. Unless this team cleans house on offense we stand no chance of ever winning a cup. Defense needs some construction as well. Merde….

  45. Jdub1985 says:

    So after all these years – rebuilds after rebuilds – GM after GM – coach after coach – one of the most storied franchises in sports history is still a damn bubble team? A mediocre 500 team? How is it that the Lakers, the Yankees and all the great franchises find a way – yet for most of my adult life the mighty Habs have been underdogs since 85?

  46. jrshabs1 says:

    Clearly the current formula doesn’t work. How does MOAR BIGGAR sound now?
    How can you expect success from any NHL team with Gionta, DD, Gallagher, Georges, Diaz, and Bouillon as core members of your hockey team? Too small. I didn’t even mention Pleks or Briere.
    It doesn’t help that MT is an idiot.

    Go Habs Go!!

  47. CHicoHab says:

    Habstrinifans got a point.

  48. SUMO says:

    A game like tonight just makes me wonder why the reluctance to break-in at least 1 of our D prospects? Look at how Ottawa has managed to bring along so many young players.

    Therrien has his shortcomings but his willingness to play and develop the younger forwards; Galchenyuk, Gallagher, Bournival and even Leblanc should be acknowledged but his complete disregard for the D prospects is baffling.

    The Habs are heading into a pretty interesting off-season with a lot big decisions to make with UFAs. If they decide to develop Tinordi or Pateryn on the 3rd pairing, instead of Bouillon or Murray wouldn’t that just pay off next season? Fans will live with the mistakes of a young player if they know its part of his learning curve.

  49. habstrinifan says:

    Stop blaming the players! The players started the season on a high with excitement and gusto. And then after the Columbus game MT put his foot down. Check his words. Check his coaching strategies after that. And since then we have..what we havd tonight. Uninspired hockey.

    And now you guys dump on the players. Think about if you were working for a self-important boss as the HABS coach has demonstrated himself to be.

    • HabinBurlington says:

      God forbid the players be held accountable! Poor kids.

      Don’t get me wrong, MT is not a great coach, but have some fricking balls players. I have played enough sports in my life, and for some good and bad coaches. Have some self respect and play for each other.

      The players can and should be held accountable. For goodness sakes, they are cashing cheques!!!!!

    • rljmartin says:

      No doubt…. Coaching has launched this team into a slump. Starts with who you dress and in this league you need a 4th line. I don’t blame them but who is playing on the 4th line and when is all coaching and that has cost a lot lately.

      Second, EGG line on fire beginning of the year… let’s see if we can get Pleks going and pull Eller out…. Eller has not been the same since…

  50. RAM_TOUGH says:

    I don’t give a rat’s furry little a$$ who the coach is, when your team can’t score on a open net all night what is the good to pull the goalie
    with 1:22 mins left? Does he think they will score two goals?

    Guts-Glory-Ram

  51. HabinBurlington says:

    Brutal effort by the team tonight. No cohesiveness, no compete, appears they are not committed to one another.

    Given the importance of this interdivisional game, this does not bode well in my opinion.

  52. CH Marshall says:

    this team has some really great players and talent.. But I don’t think we have the right kind of leadership at the moment to build on that.

    • Mondou6 says:

      Compared to most teams we play against, our talent actually doesn’t look that great.

      We have a small handful of good players, and a majority of players who are very mediocre.

    • Bogie Man says:

      I am not sure I agree with the talent, there are some good players but there are some that just do not belong. I do agree with he change in coaching. MT is too soft..

  53. The Dude says:

    Habs need the doctor who turned Chastity Bono into CHAZ Bono!

  54. jsaz says:

    Definitely not a contending team in this league. Not by a mile! Mabye go on a little streak here and there make playoffs but swept or nearly swept in first round that’s all this team is. It sucks but it’s the truth

  55. JM says:

    Well who’s fault was it tonight?

  56. kalevine says:

    starting to look like last season was the anomaly

  57. rljmartin says:

    When Emelin is back, who sits? Murray has not been bad, plays safe and does not make many mistakes except when being crosschecked in the back.

    • showey47 says:

      I would say bouillon,that’s my opinion. But for some reason MT thinks he is someone you put on the 2nd PP unit and when you pull your goalie.

      • rljmartin says:

        I have issues with you using the word reason and MT in the same sentence….

      • HabinBurlington says:

        The love affair between MT and Bouillon is scary.

        • showey47 says:

          I have nothing against the cube, the guy is an all heart and character guy,IMHO he just isn’t a regular nhl defenceman anymore. It isn’t his fault MT puts him in positions he has no business being in.

          • HabinBurlington says:

            I didn’t phrase my point well, you are correct. But MT has way too much faith in the Cube. A few years ago sure, but not anymore. Would rather see Tinordi in that spot.

          • kalevine says:

            well, he could take one for the team and retire…maybe MT would be so heartbroken he would quit too

          • showey47 says:

            I got what you were saying,it is scary how loyal MT is to the cube. This kind of loyalty just shows how much b.s. therriens speech was last year about ice team being earned. How long of a rope DD got was another example.

          • HabinBurlington says:

            Agree Showey.

  58. Odie24 says:

    Another stellar night for Desharnais. That game in the press box really showed him.

    • piper says:

      Send Desharnais to Hamilton. Play him with the best wingers and give him lots of PP time. Hope that he lights it up for a month then call him up and hope some sucker bites as he has to go through waivers.


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