Liveblog: Game 16 – St. Louis wins in Shootout, Canadiens set shot-blocking record


Good effort against tough team

Too bad you can't block shots in a Shootout.

The Canadiens set a record with 38 blocks through regulation and five minutes of Overtime. But the Blues won 3-2.

Outhit and outplayed through the first period, the Canadiens fell behind 1-0 on Alexander Steen's 13th goal of the season.

Second period goals by Rene Bourque (his fifth) and rookie Michaël Bournival sent the Canadiens into an unlikely lead.

It lasted 11;31 into the third period. A long shot ticked off a few bodies before Chris Stewart tipped it past Carey Price for his second goal of the season.

The Canadiens had a chance to win late, but Tomas Plekanec missed a penalty shot awarded after David Backes knocked the St. Louis net off its moorings.

Overtime was scoreless, although the visitors had the better chances.

T.J. Oshie scored the only goal St. Louis would need in he Shootout, as Alex Galchenyuk, Brendan Gallagher and Max Pacioretty were stopped by Jaro Halak.

First Shootout of the season

Five minutes of scoreless OT, with St. Louis having most of the possession.

Galchenyuk: Save

Oshie: Shelf goal

Gallagher: Easy save

Steen: Save

Pacioretty: Wide




Blues tie it

A weird shot riccheted off several players before Chris Stewart tipped it behind Carey Price.

With less than a minute left, the Canadiens were awarded a penalty shot ... but Tomas Plekanec shot high. First OT of the season

Canadiens strike back

Outplayed badly in the first period but trailing only 1-0, the Canadiens got goals from Rene Bourque (his fifth) and rookie Michaël Bournival (fourth) to take an unlikely lead.

Shots in the period were 9-9.

The Canadiens hav blocked 24 shots and their penalty-kill is perfect on the night.

Four Blues have blocked shots, 13 Canadiens ... led by Douglas Murray with six.

The Bell Centre held its collective breath when P.K. Subban went to the Canadiens dressing room with what appeared to be a wrist injury.

But he returned shortly after.

Blues strike early

The game was less than three minutes old when St. Louis captain David Backes bodied Douglas Murray off the puck behind the Canadiens net and fed a pass to Alexander Steen, alone in front.

Steen promptly scored his 13th of the young season, and for a while it looked like St. Louis would run the Canadiens out of the Bell Centre.

The home side didn't register a shot on Jaro Halak until the game was almost nine minutes old.

But the Canadiens weathered the early storm, including three penalty kills.

Shot tally was 9-7.

Looking to bounce back

Your Montreal Canadiens ride their two-game losing streak into a tough challenge.

St. Louis has an 8-2-2 record and a plus-15 goal differential. The Blues are 6-2-2 in their last 10 games.

The Canadiens are 8-7 and have scored 10 more goals than they've allowed. They are 5-5 over a 10-game span.

Both teams have shuffled their forward lines.

St. Louis coach Ken Hitchcock has broken up the high-scoring line of Alexander Steen, David Backes and T.J. Oshie. Chris Stewart will join Backes and Steen, while Oshie plays with Derek Roy and Vladimir Sobotka.

With David Desharnais a healthy scratch, Michel Therrien will use Alex Galchenyuk at centre between Max Pacioretty and Brendan Gallagher. Lars Eller – whom the Canadiens obtained in the trade that sent Jaro Halak to St. Louis – will centre Rene Bourque and Louis Leblanc. And Hamilton call-up Martin St. Pierre will play with Ryan White and George Parros. The Tomas Plekanec line, with Brian Gionta and Michaël Bournival, remains intact.

• Pre-game reading: Stephen Harper's hockey book

• Pre-game giggling: MT takes his boys for a spin


  1. scotland says:

    and propwash, next time you want try asking.

    and when subban is wearing another jersey who’s credibility will you question.

    even without the tip ….pretty obvious which way this is heading….one hold out already, ripped by no name coach publicly, team not close to contending, 29 teams that would love to have him. duh…..

    ps…..therrien could not teach this kid a single thing.

  2. scotland says:

    source….. ex junior coach. high school teacher and colleague of pks father.
    and pk has been told by agent and friends playing in the southern states that he would be absolutely huge down there. it has to be attracting……..these are not his fathers montreal canadiens after all…….the goofier it gets in habtown….the more attractive thoughts of heading south get.

    as bob mackenzie put it tonight….pk just may only sign a two year deal not a long term one and hit the open market after two.

    i concur

  3. CF says:

    Lets not over analyse here, bury a penalty shot already and we would have won the game. Halak is good, no question, but Plekanec has got to have a better effort, patches too.

  4. etcheverry92 says:

    Another great argument last night for neutral on ice officials. Local yokel Eric Furlatt maintains a low profile until late in the third period when he makes two calls apparently designed to hand a victory to his favorite team. First, the Canadiens receive a power play after PK Subban is boarded and then – a few minutes later – it’s a Plekanec penalty shot after an “opposing” player dislodges the net.

    No problem with the calls – honest Eric is just applying the letter of the law. Of course, when Michel Bournival wrapped his arms around Alexander Steen in overtime, the letter of the law suddenly didn’t apply. When an official has no problem making calls that could result in a victory by his side, but can’t bring his arm up to make a call that could lead to an “opposition” victory, there is a serious problem.

    Furlatt and his buddy Dave Jackson (and anybody else who may be calling games in this way) needs to be assigned elsewhere when their favorite team is in action.

  5. scotland says:

    “habs start negotiations with subban”

    good luck. good source says subban plans on playing state side at sometime in his career. annnnd he wants to play on a winner. mb and mt dont look capable of delivering.

    enjoy pk while we can. he wont be in montreal as long as ya’ll once thought

  6. Timo says:

    Ladies beach volleyball is on TSN. Much more pleasant to watch.

  7. scotland says:

    for the guy that asked …..murray has no hockey skills. jose did not want him. pitt had him for a month, did not resign him. mt picked him up for a song. you can see why he is so cheap.
    gorges is a 7th d on almost every team in the nhl…as is boulion, and murray. man was right when he said the puck went from gorges to the blues players all night long. works hard? so what. to small, does not hit, no shot, no play making ability, no stretch pass, bad in front of price, weal on the boards and in corners, nobody minds playing against this guy.

    let me get this straight……murray, boulion, gorges or diaz can kill penalties……. norris trophy winning superstar fitness lightning fask pk subban cant. HAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA! who’s idea is that?

    mt gone before xmas. (never should have been hired)

    ROY and the AVES 12-1

    LOL….and therrien was hired over patrick……… nice call.

    habs will draft top 5 in june.

  8. habsfanforever7631 says:

    Third pair didn’t play, Murray didn’t see the ice in overtime.
    I’m not trying to argue with you, I just think Subban has a lot to offer and the coach is not using him enough.

  9. Timo says:

    Good and bad news by RDS

    1. Good news, Habs will soon start negotiations with Subban
    2. Bad news, habs will soon start negotiations with Diaz. Really? F#$k me… this nightmare will never end.

  10. Timo says:

    Btw, how is everyone like JJ as our defense coach? Other than PK and Markov, was there a time when Habs defense was able to move the puck out without a trouble? It’s absolutely pathetic.

  11. scotland says:

    as pj stock pointed out. the bottom 5 teams last season were all in the top 7 of shot blocking teams. as ray ferrero stated tonight….if you are blocking a ton of shots then the puck is your own end way too much. in other words…aint nothing to brag about.

    hey wonder if hitchcock publicly put it boumiester in front of the media media on the bad give away that directly led to habs 2nd goal. and did Therrien remind all that murrays gave away “cost us the game” no, apparently Therrien saves those for pk subban.

  12. Wintercount says:

    The Blues can play a lot better.
    Oshie has better hands then anyone on the habs roster.

  13. Timo says:

    So, is Therrien going to call out Murray after the game? I mean, he did EXACTLY same thing PK did in game vs Denver.

    I sh!t you not, there was not a single time that Gorges’ clearing attempt did not result in Habs getting stuck in their zone for at least half a minute. Not one single time. Every time Gorges had a chance to move the puck out it ended up on the Blues player’s stick. It was something.

    After tonight I am totally convinced that Therrien just never developed mentally. He is special. He should not be coaching an NHL team.

    Explain to me shuffling of the line in the third after more or less (I am trying my best here to be positive) two solid periods. Paciorrety with Parros and White? Why? What was that going to accomplish? St. Pierre moved to Eller’s line? Why?

    Speaking of which… I didn’t think there was another DD… nope, I was wrong. St. Pierre proudly carried that DD torch. Great move all around.

    Man, this team just looked sad. Other than Bournival and Price, honestly, I don;t think any player had a good game. Some were terrible (Gorges), some just looked plain not interested.

    But Therrien has to go. His place is in a special ed program, not behind the NHL bench.

    • Bim says:

      Spot on man! With this group there can be N O passengers! Wow what a lunch bucket team. Where did we make the left turn after 79? Where’s the scoring? Watched the Anaheim/ Ranger game last nite and I was impressed with the Ducks! They have size (lots), skill and youth a plenty. No excuses about injuries there. Why can’t we have that? Scouting staff on the club is grossly overated.

    • Habilis says:

      Yeah he does.

      I was at the game tonight and was sitting in 112, directly across from the Habs bench, and Boone as it were (hard to miss the white hair and dark glasses). I was with my brother and I was summarily losing my mind during the last 3 mins and the start of OT as Subban sat there, glued to the bench. Good call MT.

      St-Pierre was what I expected, a career AHLer playing out of his league. So of course he got more ice time than LL.

      The fact that he iced the 4th line as the same time as Bouillon-Murray in a home game is just sheer stupidity.

      This team is losing points with this man at the helm. Our window is starting to crack open with the young core of players we have. It’s time to find someone who can lead them to the next level. Pittsburgh knew it, even after he took them to the final. I hope MB realizes it soon.

      • Timo says:

        Like I said below. I have zero faith in Bergevin. He brought in Therrien. Everything else is a result of that decision.

        • Habilis says:

          Yeah I get that POV, and it’s tough to disagree. The DD extension and the Briere signing aren’t helping either right now.

          I guess I just hold out hope because MB is pretty entrenched at this point. Even if we miss the playoffs, his job is pretty safe. So he NEEDS to realize that MT is not the right coach for this team. He will. Maybe.

  14. Marc10 says:

    I enjoy Ron Fournier most nights, but tonight was one of his better rants about who the Canadiens choose to employ on penalty shots and how year in, year out for the past 7-odd years they’ve given away points by not going with their best.

    I can’t do justice to his rant here (he talked about giving guys who win the shootout comp coupons for Pizza Hut and a fur jacket for the wife/girlfriend to the winner of the team comp at the end of the year…) I’m still laughing… One thing though. He’s spot on.

    Until that day…

    1) Chucky
    2) Eller
    3) PK/Gally

    • Timo says:

      I have been bitching and complaining about Habs shot accuracy for ages. Their inability to accurately place a shot is mind boggling. Once again, you have your most creating player who can make a goalie dizzy in PK sitting on a bench while guys like Pacioretty who have one move in their arsenal always get a shot. Unreal.

  15. Bim says:

    Boy..out of Habs (sorry the lunch bucket brigade) next 11 games only 3 look winnable. Sabres, Rangers and Blue Jackets (even that’s not a lock anymore). Way under 500 coming up! By the time the end of the month rolls around I would expect some deals or someone will lose their job (I’m looking at you MT).

    • commandant says:

      Did the Blues game look winnable before tonight? Did we nearly win?

      Did the Ducks game look winnable?

      Did the Canucks game?

      Did the Oilers game look like one we’d lose?

      Welcome to the NHL in the age of parity…. It don’t work the way you think it does.

      Go Habs Go!
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  16. commandant says:

    As for PK, something tonight finally explained his ice time.

    He’s not used on the Penalty Kill…. why? Because we simply can’t afford to see him get injured blocking a shot.

    Start with the fact he doesn’t play much penalty kill and all the other ice time machinations make sense.

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  17. commandant says:

    I still don’t understand why Parros is on the ice with 10:00 left nursing a one goal lead. You gotta manage your assets better than that Therrien.

    Go Habs Go!
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  18. punkster says:

    I was at the game so I have a few observations and a couple of questions:

    – Diaz with or without the puck in open ice (away from the boards) is steady
    – Diaz with or without the puck on the boards or in the corners is an easy target for fore checkers
    – Subban is smothered and crowded wherever he goes, with or without the puck
    – Gorges and Cube are not solid point shooters but are good defenders
    – Price, Gally, Bournival are crazy good

    1) What hockey skills does Murray possess? Please list them for me.

    2) What is the rule for which players can be on the ice for the face off immediately following a penalty shot?


  19. Samovich says:

    Who do the Habs sign for the next 8 years? MT or P.K ?

  20. etcheverry92 says:

    The Canadiens commitment to (and execution of) shot-blocking is just incredible. Everyone has bought in and is willing to pay the note. That said, the difficulty that the Habs had with the quality teams last year, seems to have spilled over to the current campaign. Last year, Montreal built their excellent regular season largely by hammering the Southeast Division. After losing to Toronto and beating Anaheim, the Habs have now lost to San Jose, Colorado, and St. Louis. Where are the Winnipeg Jets when you need them?

  21. habsfanforever7631 says:

    Where the hell is P.K. Subban in the last 4 minutes of the third period?
    Why the hell is Subban playing 2 shifts in the OT?
    Why doesn’t anyone in the media have the balls to ask the coach these questions after the game?
    What is going on!

    I don’t post here often, but this is crazy!
    I think Gorges, Diaz, Markov had more ice time then P.K.
    So P.K. is our forth best dmen?
    Give me a break!

  22. J.Ambrose.OBrien says:

    I am so done with Therrien. Awful job tonight. Murray played only 4 minutes less than PK. And that 4th line shouldn’t have anywhere near the ice late in the game. He claimed to have learned his lessons from early career failures, but he is still the same arrogant, stubborn man.

    I remember Dec. 31, 1975

  23. Mark C says:

    The genius Hitchcock had his goon out for 5 third period shifts, including 3 after the ten minute mark. Yet is MT is is an utter moron for giving Parros 2 shifts. Interesting.

  24. Huh says:

    Way to go Therrien. Way to go CH. Great way to push another star player out of Mtl.

    I hope PK leaves. I’m so fed up of this organization. The more things change, the more they stay the same.

    The MT/MB honeymoon is definitely over…..

  25. mksness says:

    in regards to the penalty shot:

    63.5 Penalty Shot – If the goal post is deliberately displaced by a goalkeeper or player during the course of a “breakaway,” a penalty shot will be awarded to the non-offending team, which shot shall be taken by the player last in possession of the puck.

  26. teamhab says:

    Let’s review ice time of some top D-Men tonight

    Ryan Suter 30 minutes
    Zdano Charo. 29 minutes
    Stephane Robidas. 26 minutes
    Eric Carlson 25 minutes

    Oh ya, and Norris Trophy winner..

    PK Subban. 20 minutes ( with OT in which he got about 30 seconds)

    What is going on ????

    25 minutes

  27. SmartDog says:

    I said it would be close. And it was. But I wish we had lost another way.

    Don’t you get this feeling Montreal’s slipping back into that place where they can’t hold onto leads, where they are just so close to being a good team, but always leave the door open.

    Listen to the Smart Dog. He knows his poop!

    • The Jackal says:

      They have had some trouble scoring, but hey, they are close to being a good team. It may just be a scoring slump.

      Hockey sine stercore tauri.

  28. C-Sword says:

    Who cares about the Blues? They’ll face the Kings in the playoffs and get eliminated again.

  29. chemic says:

    we can all thank Danno for this JM Jinx 😉

  30. RAM_TOUGH says:

    Didn’t the Habs need to score goals in the shootout to win?


  31. slyCH says:

    Reading the boxscore on my NHL app from work I saw the shots tied at 3 early on, at the 10:30 ish mark I saw it was 9-4 and told my Alabama co-worker, who obviously knows shit about hockey, this was a sign we were playing on out heals and protecting a lead, is that what happened in the 3rd? They sat back until the Blues tied?

    • The Jackal says:

      They did not sit back, the goal was a lucky deflection. The Blues did dominate in our zone but they rarely looked dangerous.
      We had some chances to put the game away but blew it.

      Hockey sine stercore tauri.

      • slyCH says:

        So what you’re saying is, we were unable to clear our zone and played in our D-zone most of the 3rd?

        • The Jackal says:

          Actually not for most. When the Blues were in our zone in the third, we had a hard time, but we had some good pressure and we just couldn’t get the dagger.

          Hockey sine stercore tauri.

  32. boing007 says:

    Ever since MT has been pulling on PK’s reins the Habs have played under 500. That’s a fact, Jack.

    Richard R

    • The Jackal says:

      Is that an expression or is Jack short for Jackal?

      On the PK note, you may be right, but it may also be a coincidence.

      I think PK is a great player, and will only get better, but at the same time I do believe MT is trying his best to work with him and help him excel, albeit within his system.

      Now, that may limit him in some ways, but not stifle him. PK is elite, and while unleashing him would help us out, it would not have the same effect as unleashing an elite sniper does. And so, I think it makes some sense to stick within the system, because it ultimately helps the team out more. And it has certainly helped the Habs improve. It is an effective way of letting the young guys learn but also be competitive.

      Remember, we are a work in progress, and all the young guys, including PK, will take on greater roles, but it is also important to transition into that rather than just Oiler it up.

      Hockey sine stercore tauri.

    • SmartDog says:

      That crossed my mind as well.

      Therrien is shooting himself in the foot. It’s what he does.

      Listen to the Smart Dog. He knows his poop!

  33. montreal ace says:

    When PK blocked a shot tonight, we escaped a serious injury, that is the reason he is not killing penalties. He is too valuable to lose over a blocked shot.

  34. L Elle says:

    DD always managed to score on shootouts. I’m surprised MT didn’t use Parros in it.

  35. Marc10 says:

    Solid game by Les Boys. That was impressive considering the opposition and big props to Bournival and Price.

    I’ll agree with the second guessing on St Pierre and Parros being utilized in the third period. That does not compute if you’re trying to win. Otherwise full marks by everyone.

  36. Propwash says:

    I’m actually pleased with the results, the team came away with a point against a top tier team in the league.


  37. nova scotia vees says:

    I have always been a Halak supporter, but must say that Price played very well tonight…except on the shoot-out goal. Why does he make himself so small? That is one habit he hasn’t broken yet.
    Therrien is looking like a complete idiot. St. Pierre on the P.P…and don’t even get me going again about his treatment of P.K….And Pacioretti in the shoot-out? How about a skilled guy like Eller. I know he is in a slump, but he has some dekes. All in all, I am now convinced that M.B. and M.T. are 2 of the 3 Stooges. Molson might be the 3rd for putting them in charge.

    • Propwash says:

      I for one would love to see PK in the shootout. He should be the third guy.


    • mksness says:

      that was a fantastic move on on price in the shoot out. only thing price could have done was poke check; easier said than done though. the other 3 shooters have to atleast score one.

    • The Jackal says:

      Hmm, I know nothing about goaltending so my opinion is just air, but Price did seem to back up a lot, but maybe that’s just his style. It worked on the Steen attempt, and I am guessing that it makes sense to be deep because most guys try to deke. Oshie had a great shot though.

      Hockey sine stercore tauri.

  38. boing007 says:

    PK, Bournival, Eller on the shootout would have been more exciting.

    Richard R

  39. mksness says:

    blocking shots is the best way to use our team speed. let’s have markov and Pk break an ankle blocking shots. price is a big boy. i think he can make the saves from the outside. i don’t think there is a reason to block every shot that is taken.

    time for the offence to wake up but if the habs don’t take any risks they’ll have a hard time scoring more than 2 goals a game

    • olematelot says:

      When shots are blocked there’s less chance that one’s going to get deflected and go in like the tying goal. Blocking shots is a good thing, the more the better.

      • mksness says:

        so no attempted block shots ever get deflected and go in? no defence men screen the goalie on blocked shots making the initial read harder and lead to more scrambles infront?

        there is a time to block shots

  40. habs12 says:

    Galchenyuk needs another shootout move, same thing every time.

  41. Sportfan says:

    If this MT stuff is really starting to concern people then write to Geoff Molson about your concerns, maybe something will happen. I don;t expect him to be fired, but maybe he’ll lay off of PK!

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  42. boing007 says:

    That four on four wasn’t pleasant to watch either. What happened to the run and gun four on fours? ZZZZZZZZZZZZZ.

    Richard R

  43. Ring of Fire says:

    Same old song and dance little mite forwards playing on perimeter …I don’t care if Pleks is second in scoring on team enough of him already(what a feeble SO attempt) Gionta,DD,etc…..big guys like Pacthes n Bourque playing for Nobel Peace prize….tiny D – men Diaz n Bouillon,George’s and retread coach….retread coaches don’t improve like a fine wine….tired of watching this rerun for past 4 plus years…Also Y did MB feel the need to sign DD to that contract last year…insane.

    I would agree,he’s playing like the Shuttsian of old

  44. habkin says:

    I would hope MB realizes that PK has the potential to play at a consistent level for many years…is MT going to be a coach for many years with the Habs? Think future MB! Trading PK may curse us more after the Roy trade.

  45. DDO_Habs_Fan says:

    Pieterangelo had a horse-shoe up his butt tonight with that turnover to Gally at the end of the game…I’m sure we’ll hear about it in the Toronto media…LOL

    “You’re always, always, always looking to make your team better. Always.”- Marc Bergevin

  46. Mattyleg says:

    We were 36% in the faceoff circle.

    Bring back DD!

    —Hope Springs Eternal—

    • Mark C says:

      Lost in all the excitement of Chucky’s more to center is how HIO’s meme face offs will suffer.

      • Mattyleg says:

        Well exactly.

        This is what happens when you put rookies/young players in important positions. Fans forget about the little things like… winning faceoffs, for centres, or zone coverage for defencemen.

        But if they can skate around really fast, then we HAVE to put them in over other, more experienced players who do the less-glamourous things a hell of a lot better.

        —Hope Springs Eternal—

  47. RAM_TOUGH says:

    Murray was in no way at fault for the 1st goal. He was cross checked to the ice!


  48. Cal says:

    It looks like many here don’t recognize a bubble team when they see one. Habs are short a couple of high end developed talents to contend. With the return of Emelin and Prust and Moen the Habs will be tougher to play against but still a bubble team. With the squad as is I can’t see a 5 game win streak in them that would separate them from the others in the middle.
    It’s going to be a long season, so we should enjoy watching the youthful hustle of Bournival, Gallagher and Galchenyuk and the flair of PK and the tactics of Markov and the saves of Price.

    • Kooch7800 says:

      Very true Cal. I remember laughing before the season started I was arguing with Berkshire on twitter as he thinks the habs are one of the elite teams in the east.

      I said we are anywhere from 7-10

      “Keep your stick on the Ice”

      • The Jackal says:

        Good post Cal.
        And Kooch, gotta agree too, Habs are a work in progress – they are fun to watch and they are getting there, but they are not elite yet.

        Berkshire does not know what being wrong is.

        Hockey sine stercore tauri.

        • Kooch7800 says:

          I do think we will have to move some of our D assets for a top 6 sniper. I think Galchenyuk and Gallagher are the real deal but I don’t see anyone on the farm who is going to light it up in the next few years.

          “Keep your stick on the Ice”

    • Ring of Fire says:

      Agree Prust n Emelin…Moens’ useless

      I would agree,he’s playing like the Shuttsian of old

  49. Sportfan says:

    When we were stuck in our zone in overtime, all I could think was where the F is PK he’d have left the zone by now.

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  50. ari says:

    the place of prust and moen is clear,but what happens when briere is ready to play?he is going to replace who?what about DD?this new FUNNY GM and media favorite,bought out gomez contract and replace that with these two smurfs.way to go M.B.

  51. NCRhabsfan says:

    Where the Habs are concerned, there seems to be a lot of fussing about the defence when they give up very few goals, but little fussing about their pop gun offence. This team hasn’t had a legit scoring star in…I can”t remember, Lafleur? There were several golden opportunities to win this game that they failed to take advantage of. This team needs a sniper, regardless of height.

    • HabsTrueBlue says:

      The Habs have a bonfire scoring star. He plays defensemen and leads the team in scoring but the coach doesn’t think it makes sense to play him even in OT when it’s time to go and win the game.

  52. boing007 says:

    Therrien just said that the Blues are a good hockey team. So what?! The Habs could have/should have won that game.

    Richard R

  53. Ozmodiar says:

    MT looks happy in the presser.

  54. boing007 says:

    No PK during the four on four, no PK in the shootout. What’s up with that? Fire MT. Never liked him, never will. Looks like a farmer. Could have been on Hee Haw.

    Richard R

  55. SUMO says:

    Sorry for the re-post but when you compare Subban’s TOI to the other Habs D its puzzling but when you see how Hitchcock handle’s his top guys (Pieterangelo & Bouwmeester) its clearly WTF? Subban is NOT Paul Coffey.

    Also, wasn’t Daignault hired for his work with the young Dmen of the NYR? Would Tinordi or Pateryn be any worse than having Douglas Murray?

    Bouillon – 19:57 (Friggin retire already)
    Diaz – 24:04
    Gorges – 23:41
    Markov – 25:26
    Murray – 16:16

    Subban – 20:52

    Jackman – 15:30
    Bouwmeester – 29:06
    Shattenkirk – 20:22
    Pieterangelo – 30:49
    Leopold – 17:14
    Polak – 16:14

    • CH Marshall says:

      Wow those blues top D are playing 25-30 minutes, exactly what Subban is capable of, and is BUILT for. Instead, Diaz plays more minutes.

    • ebk says:

      Subban missed some shifts because he was banged up and then he doesn’t play the PK, so that explains the ice time. Now the issue is should he be on the PK? Absolutely!!!
      His even strength ice-time was 2nd to Markov, I believe.

      Murray has been horrendous so far. And any line with Parros on it, is the worst 4th line in the league.

      • SUMO says:

        A shift last 45seconds. He DID NOT miss a single shift because of the bloked shot, he also only got 2 shifts in OT. The point is the mismanagement of his TOI by the stupid coach.

        EV TOI
        Gorges – 19:41
        Bouillon – 18:31
        Diaz – 19:28
        Markov – 21:20
        Murray – 12:04

        Subban – 19:30

    • NCRhabsfan says:

      Is PK hurt?

    • The Jackal says:

      Definitely questionable that Subban does not play 25+ min.

      But tonight, I think we can safely attribute his low TOI to being hurt early in the game and taking a big hit after that.

      Hockey sine stercore tauri.

    • chemic says:

      playing Subban 30 Minutes like they did tonight with Jay and Pietro cant be the answer.

  56. fastfreddy says:

    Man, can we stop using Diaz,Boullion, Murray ? They’re awful. They need to be replaced sooner than later, we need help back there!!!!!!!!

    CH = Les Glorieux!!!

  57. CH Marshall says:

    Can you imagine Cherry telling Orr: you’re a thoroughbred but you’re playing my way or its the highway

  58. Bob_Sacamano says:

    If either Murray or Parros is dressed on thursday, Therrien has to go.

  59. The Jackal says:

    So is there any chance that PK is playing hurt and that is why he is playing less minutes?

    OH wait! PK did get hurt earlier during the game. Maybe they were just trying to shelter him so he doesn’t actually become injured.

    Come guys, don’t jump off the deep end. That’s why more plausible than MT mishandling him.

    But on that note, MT does make some shitty on-ice calls. I think he has the right idea system-wise, but he does not do in-game stuff very well.

    Hockey sine stercore tauri.

    • Chrisadiens says:

      At the end of the day, all I care about is wins. I don’t care if the coach is nice to the players, has a system I like, has good hair or speaks French. Its all about wins and right now MT is not winning.

      Chrisadiens and HabFan10912, one of the few father son tandems on HIO.

      • The Jackal says:

        Indeed, and we all want that.
        I don’t like MT much, but I do think he is working with PK to try and help him excel, but more so to do that within the system.
        Even if they don’t actually get along, I don’t think it’s something that will make him walk. He will be a Hab for a long time.

        But it does make sense to limit his minutes after taking a hard shot, going to the room, then later in the game taking a big hit.

        Hockey sine stercore tauri.

        • Chrisadiens says:


          Chrisadiens and HabFan10912, one of the few father son tandems on HIO.

        • NCRhabsfan says:

          Not sure about “to do so more within the system”. When you have a player of PK’s abilities, maybe you change the system to work with him and not the other way around. I don’t ever remember anyone talking about making Gretsky or Howe “work within the system”. Did the Rocket work within the system? Lafleur? When you have great players you make the system work for them, not the other way around. Having PK work within the system will stifle PK, result in poorer play on his part and ultimately put him in a visitors jersey.

          • The Jackal says:

            You may be right about those consequences, and I think PK is going to be the best D in the league. But Gretzky/Howe is some different from a dominant player – they are extreme outliers and it makes sense to tailor your game for them. Hell, maybe PK develops to that level, but just because he is dominant does not mean the Habs need to have a system tailored around him. But either way, it seems MT wants PK to excel, but he definitely puts the team and system ahead of PK’s own path.

            Hockey sine stercore tauri.

  60. Max says:

    No more Pacioretty in the shootout please.Same move every time:skate powerfully in a straight line towards the goalie and wrist shot it wide of the net to the right.

  61. habs1992 says:

    P.K isnt gonna want to resign with us, THANKS MT AND MB THIS IS AWFUL.

    I support Carey Price
    “Habs Insider”

  62. DDO_Habs_Fan says:

    Parros has more minuses than a math text book…WTF was Therrien thinking? Forget “Coaching 101″…putting the 4th line on with less than 10 min with a one goal lead is not even “Coaching kindergarten”.

    It is karma that the coach blows a game after he calls out his star players for making mistakes. I’m sure he’ll take responsibility for tonight…yeah right. BTW I know everyone is down on DD but you don’t replace him with another small scoring-type forward. At least DD could have been used in the shootout. You don’t give “bon-bons” to AHL career players when you’re trying to make the playoffs. I leave the rest to comment about PK’s ice time. Just absolute brutal coaching tonight…

    “You’re always, always, always looking to make your team better. Always.”- Marc Bergevin

  63. montreal ace says:

    One hell of a shot by Oshie, wow

  64. RAM_TOUGH says:

    Would U want to touch anything that MT had his body on?


  65. JM says:

    1-point is better than none …

  66. Samovich says:

    out coached again the cube and St. Pierre on the ICE! 24 mins for Diaz and more than P.K ?

    • HabsTrueBlue says:

      Especially ridiculous in overtime. Why would Therrien want to hold on for a shoutout when it’s hard to ever see Price beating Halak in a shootout. (This is not a knock on Price).

      • ShootThePuck says:

        Price had a chance to beat Halak. There was no excuse about StLouis having a better team. But guess what? He couldn’t do it. If Price was all that good, he would prove his worth in shootouts. But like in any pressure situation, he looses.

  67. Michelob says:

    Am I the only one who gets tired of watching the same inept passing and uninspired play in every game? Is it just me, or does the other team always seem to have the puck? Do they track time of possession in hockey?

    • ShootThePuck says:

      Tonight the Canadiens played well. But they got outplayed by a better team. Bigger and faster. I remember when the Canadiens were a force. (Long time ago). The opposition rarely had possession of the puck. No more.

  68. Sportfan says:

    How about we stop giving out the Molson Cup, we never win when its handed out.

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