Liveblog: Game 15: Canadiens limp home after lost weekend


Canadiens lose 4-1 to Avalanche

Colorado has lost one game to one team this season: the Detroit Red Wings.

It's November, and maybe Patrick Roy's 12-win team is for real.

Your Montreal Canadiens lost weekend games in Minnesota and Denver.

Their record dropped to 8-7 ... with the mighty St. Louis Blues visiting the Bell Centre Tuesday night.

Gabriel Landeskog – at 20,  the youngest captain in the league – had a goal and an assist for Colorado. The Avalanche also got goals from rookie Nathan MacKinnon, Ryan O'Reilly and P-A Parenteau, an empty netter.

Colorado outshot the Canadiens 31-30.

Two errors turn game

A power-play goal by Brendan Gallagher, his seventh of the season, made it 1-1 early in the third period.

Then the roof fell in.

A huge rebound off Peter Budaj became a pass to rookie Nathan MacKinnon, who scored easily from the slot.

Then P.K. Subban turned the puck over behind his own net and Ryan O'Reilly tucked it in the open side.

P-A Parenteau's empty netter made it 4-1.

Young C scores

At 20, Gabriel Landeskog is the youngest captain in the NHL.

He scored the only goal of a tight game a bit over halfway through the middle period, roaring in from the left point to beat Peter Budaj with a laser.

Budaj has made 20 stops, to 16 for J.S. Giguere.

In an effort to generate offence, Michel Therrien juggled his forward lines, moving Max Pacioretty to Michaël Bournival's spot on the Tomas Plekanec line.

Toward the end of the period, Therrien broke up his Kid line, trying Max-Pac with Lars Eller and Brendan Gallagher.

The Avalanche are 9-0 when scoring first and leading after two.




A bit of everything

Two fights within the first five minutes ... this between teams that NEVER play each other.

Once that nonsense was out of the way, the Canadiens and Avs focused on hockey, with the home team winning puck battles and getting better chances.

The Canadiens went six minutes without a shot at the end of the period, as the Avs had an 11-8 edge.

Canadiens will begin the second period on a power play.

St. Patrick's night

Is there anything Patrick Roy isn't good at?

He was arguably the greatest goaltender in the storied history of the Montreal Canadiens and indisputably the greatest in the short history of the Colorado Avalanche.

He ran a successful major junior franchise in Quebec City.

And now Patrick Roy is back in Denver, where he has coached a team that was the NHL's second-worst last season to first place in the Western Conference.

The Avalanche are 11-1 and have won five in a row, most recently a 3-2 overtime win in Dallas Friday night.

Your Montreal Canadiens are coming off a tough 4-3 loss in Minnesota. They have not played in Colorado since Dec. 19, 2010, when a T.J. Gagliardi goal secured a 3-2 win for the Avalanche.

Peter Budaj watched that game from the Colorado bench. He'll be in nets for the Canadiens Saturday night.

• Speaking of great goaltenders, read Ken Dryden on why the NHL should get rid of fighting. And he wrote the Globe & Mail piece BEFORE last night's idiocy in Philadelphia.

Kaleta on waivers


  1. Max_a_million says:

    He craps on PK every night. Nothing good. He’s the leading scoring dman and Norris trophy winner. Blame PK for loss!!!!!
    He said it was clear.
    Where the heck was the pleks line, 4th line crap, dd, bouillon, Murray … He’s blaming PK????

  2. Samovich says:

    ” cost the game?” and Therrien is blameless ? played DD more than Chucky? playing the fourth line after 2 GA last night?

  3. The Jackal says:

    On the bright side, the Laffs and Bruins lost pretty bad too.

    Just for entertainment:
    Who would you pick as coach – Guy Carboneau or Guy Boucher?

    Hockey sine stercore tauri.

  4. CH Marshall says:

    watching the game, I actually don’t think MT comes up with a plan at all. It was the same cross ice pass getting out of the zone every time. Avs were just all over us with that forechecking. MT had no response for that, except to bench players and blame the loss on his mvp

  5. NightRyder says:

    Interesting how the 12-1 Avs would walk through hell in a gasoline suit for their coach, because he’s got their back.

    Meantime, Therrien is tossing his Norris Trophy-winning d-man under the bus.

    Any new passengers on the NotTherrien train?

  6. Timo says:

    Will Therrien’s comment be picked up by the media tomorrow? Especially English media? Perhaps Stubbs and Hickey can do somethign that is actually good for the Habs and precipitate Therrien’s departure.

  7. durocher says:

    Here’s how I see it:

    High compete level
    1. Gally11
    2. Gally27
    3. Patches
    4. Eller
    5. Bournival
    6. Prust
    7. Emelin

    Some flashes of excellence – can be a gamechanger
    8. Subban

    Very competent
    9. Pleks
    10. Markov
    11. Gorges

    Good in limited roles
    12. White
    13. Cube
    14. Murray
    15. Moen
    16. Holland

    Decent compete level/occasional flairs
    17. Gio
    18. Bourque

    Minimal compete level or competence
    19. Diaz
    20. DD
    21. Briere

    Good in very limited roles
    22. Parros

    Below level of competence/AHL player
    23. Blunden

    Not enough playing time for assessment
    24. Leblanc

  8. CH Marshall says:

    oh wow just saw the clip on RDS. MT has a deer-in-headlights look. Trying to look defiant while throwing PK under the bus. Awful.

  9. Samovich says:

    There s no excuse for MT’s comments

  10. J.Ambrose.OBrien says:

    Bergevin better step in pronto. This could very quickly become a major rift and the beginning of a serious tailspin that sinks the season.

    I remember Dec. 31, 1975

  11. The Jackal says:

    Ya know folks, Habs are a good team, it’s just too bad they lost this back to back, but that’s not something that has happened recently – we’ve won a lot of back to backs and made a lot of improvements, and moves will be happening with Bournival and LL continuing to progress.

    Now… MT… I really hope the stupid speculation re. him and PK is not true, and I hope it dies completely, but if it is, then he needs to get the F out of town ASAP. Bring in Carbo or Guy Boucher.

    Hockey sine stercore tauri.

    • dr. gesundheit says:

      No to bringing back Boucher or Carboneau…why do so many who post here seem like such model recyclers…been there done that…how many times does this team have to keep bringing back coaches who have been fired in the past????

  12. Max_a_million says:

    He said the team played a good game, but a certain defenceman blew his coverage and the same defenceman made a terrible pass that cost the game

  13. Timo says:

    I bet nothing happens. The shit will unfold in the end of the season and PK will be gone. Habs will continue enjoying mediocrity for another 20 years and will eventually becomes the leafs.

    • J.Ambrose.OBrien says:

      If this becomes a choice between the two, I guarantee that Habs’ management will choose PK.

      I remember Dec. 31, 1975

      • Tis Himself says:

        Ah, but will he chose the Habs?

      • Timo says:

        But the problem that it may not be their choice anymore. Subban can say, eff it, I am out of here. If he is hard headed he will sit out a year if he has to. He will get his money no matter what but without having to deal with therrien’s shit.

        • J.Ambrose.OBrien says:

          I fully expect that MB will talk to PK’s agent and make it clear where the club’s priority lies. Then they’ll sign him. And Therrien will walk the plank.

          I remember Dec. 31, 1975

        • AH says:

          Exactly what I have been saying Timo! MT’s crap is going to lead to PK giving the Habs the finger while the Brinks truck from another team rolls in and off he goes!

    • HABSsince92 says:

      Why don’t you write a letter to Molson I hear Boone has his address.

      You’re a tool.


      PK please sign.

  14. Luke says:

    Anyone have actual quote from MT?

    Meh, nevermind…

  15. Mike D says:

    I didn’t hear the post game comments. Can any of you kind souls share what MT had to say?

    – Honestly yours
    Twitter: @de_benny

    • Timo says:

      He said that guys work hard and stay in the game and the lack of execution on defense cost them the game. (I am translating from french)

    • J.Ambrose.OBrien says:

      He never mentioned PK by name, but said that the team played well, and they lost due to two mistakes by the same one defenceman. Pretty clear whom he meant.

      I remember Dec. 31, 1975

      • Mike D says:

        Hmmm. I see why that riled people up. Not a very smart comment.

        I would love to hear MT answer as to why he rides P.K. so much. I would be one thing if he gave him some credit once in a while, but the negative comments definitely outweigh the positive ones.

        It’s a fair question too considering P.K. was just recently asked in an interview if he liked being coached “hard” the way MT coaches him.

        – Honestly yours
        Twitter: @de_benny

  16. CH Marshall says:

    @Timo i bet it would be Guy Boucher…. because hes available, french, and likes PK

    • Luke says:

      And has already been fired after being an awful NHL coach…

      • The Jackal says:

        Had a great rookie season, then a bad one, but was that on him?
        Maybe Roy takes the Avs to the conference final and then they shit the bed the following season. You never know. Maybe Roy is a Torts style coach that gets a lot from his players but when the road gets bumpy they are quick to jump ship.

        Hockey sine stercore tauri.

  17. Samovich says:

    MT’s comments are way worse than the loss

  18. Timo says:

    I am going to play devil’s advocate… if Bergevin indeed has half a brain and he fires therrien, who does he replace him with now?

  19. Max_a_million says:

    It wasn’t vague on what defenceman he was crapping on.

  20. CH Marshall says:

    Maybe MT should try Roy’s personal development program

  21. Timo says:

    I think Therrien is about to cry. Maybe he can cry in Gionta’s arms.

  22. Max_a_million says:

    Tsn 690 radio plays post game comments from coach. He craps on PK after every fricken game

  23. Samovich says:

    Therrien’s comments were bush league !!! MB has to step in

  24. J.Ambrose.OBrien says:

    Michel T. just may have lost his job. Won’t happen during the season. But no way they resign PK and bring Therrien back, too, next season.

    I remember Dec. 31, 1975

  25. Max_a_million says:

    Please fire Michel Therrien before he pushes PK away. Holy crap, what is his problem!

  26. Tis Himself says:

    Way too many passengers on this team to compete for a trophy. And, while I was OK with him last year, CH24 makes MT look like a tool compared to most NCAA D-1 coaches. Igniting my own farts with a cigarette lighter would provide more illumination than he does on that show. DD, DB, FB are useless and need to go. We didn’t need GP.

  27. Samovich says:

    Therrien is simply not a team person!! wow what a douch

  28. CHicoHab says:

    For the record. 0-3 with Parros in line up.

  29. Samovich says:

    MT’s post game comments are unacceptable !! he should be fired or given a talking too, no blame on the Cube in Minnisota

  30. J.Ambrose.OBrien says:

    I can’t believe he just did that. WTH?

    I remember Dec. 31, 1975

  31. J.Ambrose.OBrien says:

    OMG! Did you just hear Therrien throw PK under the bus again?! OMG.

    I remember Dec. 31, 1975

  32. CHicoHab says:

    Couple seasons ago was an exciting play off beating Ovechkin and Crosby in the playoffs. Last 20 years yes we have been mediocre but that run just a couple years back was a hoot

  33. Habcouver says:

    Glass half full.
    Leafs got skunked.
    Bruins lost.

    Waiting patiently for #25

    • HABSsince92 says:

      Glass half empty.

      Leafs and Bruins are both better than the Habs


      PK please sign.

      • Habcouver says:

        Probably… but only for now. Therefore, ____

        Waiting patiently for #25

        • HABSsince92 says:

          Therefore what?

          They still lost ground on the Bruins and leads by losing 2 games where as the Leafs and Bruins only lost 1. So when you look at from a games in hand perspective it’s a glass half empty or a realistic view imo. And unfortunately the Leafs and Bruins have better teams then the Habs it sucks but it’s the truth.


          PK please sign.

          • Habcouver says:

            ______ glass half full. Relax, be realistic, our Habs are re-building. Like it or not, that is a fact. It’s easy to be pissy when the team loses but the Habs are going in the right direction. If I wanted results, I’d come back to this site when the the team is a winner/contender.
            But that wouldn’t be fun, huh.
            Buck up! This is the new NHL.

            Waiting patiently for #25

  34. JM says:

    you guys have been fooling yourself for years now. For some reason a lot of you think the Habs are a good team. They are just mediocre when you realize that. You won’t be as hard on yourself.

    They’ll win 3 or 4 in a row and lose 3 or 4 in a row that’s what mediocre teams does. Get use to it and you’ll be fine …

    • HABSsince92 says:

      I for one realize that…..I just hope that someday they will be a great, stanley cup contending team again in my lifetime. It’s been over 20 years since they were and God willing I have about 60 years left for that to happen again lol


      PK please sign.

  35. NightRyder says:

    It took awhile before folks jumped aboard the Gomez must go train. By then, it was too late.

    It took awhile before folks began to pile aboard the DD must go train. Now, it’s already too late.

    If only the right folks had jumped on the Roy train in time (with room for the deal Markov and Gionta now caboose) it would have accelerated this team’s development by several years.

    Sadly, that train isn’t coming around again for many, many years.

  36. habsfan0 says:

    So it’s Halak vs Price on Tuesday night?
    Well,Eller is due.
    Maybe against his ex-mates he’ll get going again.

  37. CHicoHab says:

    Avs are 4 wins better than us and Mr.Roy is a god. Gimme a break. In due time the love fest will be over. Always is. He’s a hot head and a nut job.

    • HABSsince92 says:

      I think his 4 cups and 3 playoff MVPS (which nobody else has) and many other awards, as well as a Memorial Cup as coach say otherwise. Is he a hot head with a temper? Yes sometimes but he is also a winner and the greatest goalie of all time.

      PS. Without Roy would you be a little more upset that the Cup drought has been since the 90s instead of the 70s?


      PK please sign.

  38. AH says:

    I’m starting to get a sick feeling that there is an inverse relationship between the how long MT coaches the Habs and the certainty that PK signs long term with them.

    Remember that one anonymous agent who said if the Habs offered Subban up there would be 29 teams lined up for him…(shudders)!

  39. Cal says:

    8-7 after the first 15 games? About right for a bubble team. Nice to see Chucky at center and DD benched for a bit. Patches should have waited until Thursday. PK not playing like PK lately. It’s a long season. Plenty of time for PK to get back to controlling the game again.
    And no, Timo, MT hasn’t been fired. 😉

  40. HABSsince92 says:

    I really don’t understand how the majority of people on this site except losing and mediocrity?

    Does no one want to have a team like Chicago, Pittsburgh, Boston, Detroit, consistent winners year in year out?


    PK please sign.

    • Luke says:

      Chicago and Pittsburgh are consistent winners year in and year out? Sure, I
      Guess…especially if you ignore the decades of losing… Chicago was a laughing stock for 40 of the last 50 years

      • HABSsince92 says:

        I’m using them as recent, most relevant examples to my point.

        The POINT being I want the Habs to be consistent cup contenders like (INSERT ANY ERA’S DOMINATING TEAMS)


        PK please sign.

  41. Habilis says:

    Watching Roy behind the Avs bench just plain sucks. MB made the wrong call on this one. This is not based only on tonight for me, I just think Patrick is going to end up being a solid NHL coach for a long time. MT… not so much.
    Not that we got out-coached tonight per se, just outplayed. Is that a result of the systems or the in-game adjustments or lack thereof? Maybe a hockey analyst can answer that, but I don’t know. I just know that the Avs looked like a better hockey team tonight. Heck, they’re 12-1! They weren’t supposed to be this good, on paper anyhow. Some of that simply has to be the old Roy magic. I still really miss that.

  42. zak says:

    The coaches are holding P.K. back. They are stifling talent. It’s like not letting Bobby Orr be creative.

    Hire the best regardless of language

  43. Timo says:

    I love beating up on DD as much as the next guy, but even if DD played well tonight the result would have been the same. Avalance is playing well as a TEAM. They have all 4 lines working their ass off, they compete, the are aggressive, they are in your face. Only some (very few) of the Habs players play that way. The rest of the roster goes through the motions game after game. It could be different guys that bring it every night, but it’s never an entire team.

    Again, this is mostly a coaching issue.

    • AH says:

      Not so sure it’s mostly a coaching issue Timo, not saying MT is blameless, but when does some self-motivation kick in? Where was Pleks tonight?, and what about the Captain who is supposed to lead his team?, and of course DD etc. Pleks and Gio are supposed to be experienced pros!

  44. chemic says:

    we lost to the best team in league. we could accept that and move on, maybe with some fair critism, common sense and insane stuff like that.

    f**k me, right?

    • HABSsince92 says:

      I think the problem for some people is that best team in the league is coached by Patrick Roy, who should be the Habs coach right now. Perhaps the Habs might be a little better than their typical 500 or just slightly above record.


      PK please sign.

      • chemic says:

        me thinks some people would rip Roy too.

        • HABSsince92 says:

          yes of course, there will always be people who are not satisfied, but i fell a reasonable fan would be thrilled with Roy as coach and a record of say 10-5 after 15 games instead of 8-7, which is just the same old same old with this team. Hover around 500, win a couple of games lose a few games so and so forth.

          Great teams win 6 7 in a row and then lose 1 or 2 games and then win 5 in a row, etc. Prolonged winning streaks. That’s what i wish the tabs could be someday.


          PK please sign.

          • chemic says:

            maybe, maybe not, at the end its an hypotetical view of the things! werent you thrilled last season when we had a really nice, above medicore season, no?

            dont get me wrong, im not really happy either but this critism (mostly unfair) without an reasonable solution is plain and simple stupid. it does not solve anything. acceptance of the reality is always the first step.

  45. Habitant in Surrey says:

    …Montreal threw away all those great Players with the Royal Jelly that made them superstars …We kept the plebes

    …You want a winning Team ? …surround Yourself with winners

    …You want mediocrity ? …well, We already have known how to accomplish that for 20+ years

    …We recently have made progress I feel …but also have lost opportunities to bring bank the Royal Jelly that once was Ours

  46. Chuck says:

    Losing sucks.

    Anything is possible.

  47. habs001 says:

    Eller got of to a great start in scoring goals but he has never been a consistant goal scorer at any level of hockey..Galchenyuk is not a goal scorer playing left wing..maybe it is time to change that line up

  48. CH Marshall says:

    Avs defintely are an impressive team of young big studs, well coached, well managed.

  49. PrimeTime says:

    Price ” !

  50. zak says:

    What was it about Patrick Roy that the habs found so threatening that they wouldn’t hire him as coach?

    Hire the best regardless of language

    • Stevie.Ray says:

      Didn’t he want to have final say on roster moves? And didn’t he not want to coach in Montreal?

      • HABSsince92 says:

        Final say on roster moves? So maybe he would not have singed DD, Briere? LOL


        PK please sign.

      • Luke says:

        And that he wanted one more year in junior….

        Remember folks, this is Roy’s FIRST season. We hired a coach last year… Baaah what’s it matter…

        Ok. Everything we do, did or will do is wrong. We should have, be or hopefully do the opposite!


  51. FlyAngler says:

    P K is great in the attacking zone. In his own end he is frequently lackadaisical. The idea that he should be the Habs next Captain is just as insane as the idea of trading him. Tonight he figured in the Avs last 3 goals. Right now he is not playing like a Norris Trophy winner and needs to do a lot of work on his game in his own end. PLENTY of room for improvement there. And NO it is not MTs fault or JJD’s fault.

    “Elever le flambeau!…Raise the Torch!”

    • NightRyder says:

      Had the Internet existed in the ’70s, I wonder how many folks would have been on here ripping Larry Robinson after a mediocre effort in game 47; calling for Bunny Larocque every time Dryden let in more than one goal; or whining because Lafleur went two games without a point?

  52. CHicoHab says:

    No offense. No defense. No coaching. At the moment. I’m not satisfied.

  53. danhabsfan says:

    This is who the Habs really are right now. Nothing will change until the coach changes, and some of babe roster changes… Such a shame

  54. JM says:

    ROY – Has the AVS playing hard for 60-minutes every game along with good defence that’s why they’re successful.

    We played a good game tonight but not good enough to win!!

  55. Ozmodiar says:

    DD was benched, so nobody to blame for loss.

  56. PrimeTime says:

    Aaaahhh. Lol at y’all a

  57. AH says:

    Boy did they make the Habs look bad. Something is up with PK, he looked terrible tonight, I really hope MT is not in his head!

    Were Pleks and Gionta healthy scratches tonight?, Gionta wears the “C” doesn’t he?

  58. duffy says:

    Congrats Patrick, wish you were behind Montreal bench instead of the dud that’s there.

  59. Avs were lucky they got the win, the Habs gave em that game. You’re welcome Patty.

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  60. Mattyleg says:

    Night all, it’s been real.
    I’ll let the ding-dongs take over now.

    See you in the funny-pages!

    —Hope Springs Eternal—

  61. frontenac1 says:

    @HIS.?? Avs 2,3,4 goals were on PK I think.

  62. Stevie.Ray says:

    Pk pinched on that last goal and got beat, but down by two with a minute left, you have to make that pinch. He worked hard to get back, but just tough luck.

  63. Habbu says:

    Eller must be hurt…..doesn’t look himself

  64. slapshot777 says:

    MB should review what he has and do some tinkering

  65. slapshot777 says:

    Another f**ked up Saturday

  66. HABSsince92 says:

    Mr. Molson,

    I hope you are happy with your team. I am not. I am sick of losing, I am sick of being just a little bit better than mediocre, sneaking into the playoffs every few years to lose in the 1st round. I’m sick of MT, I’m sick of your 1st time GM as well (his signings have been bad, do we really still believe he was the reason Chicago turned things around? or maybe it was more to do with the Bowman boys and a Jack Adams coach in JQ) I was furious when MT was hired, this fat a$$ clown gets to be coach again? Are you kidding me? The coach who was not good enough for the greatest hockey player of this generation and arguably the best player of all time (Crosby & Lemieux) So another question Mr. Molson, are you going to let MB and MT run our best player of this generation in PK Subban out of town like the other a$$ clowns Mario Tremblay and Rejan Houle did to Patrick Roy? Speaking of St. Patrick, he sure would look nice behind the Habs bench eh? 12-1 with the 2nd worst team in the league last year? So why would you, Mr. Molson, not hire Patrick Roy? Why would you not want someone with pride, passion, dedication to the Habs and our last link to our once former great and prestigious teams. This team has been a joke for over 20 years now. When will it change? When will the Habs be a powerhouse again? As much as I love the Habs I for one am glad that St. Patrick and Colorado won tonight.

    PK please sign.

  67. Timo says:

    Well… as Boone says – never in doubt.

  68. Ozmodiar says:

    Parenteau with empty netter.

    RDS 1st star??

  69. PrimeTime says:

    What can we get for PK,

  70. Luke says:

    PK on the ice for the last minute. We all happy now?


    Dbl ouch. Nevermind less…

  71. hockeyscout101 says:

    Parros out for last shift now….Message sending time.

  72. kingcammy says:

    This team is nothing more than a 500 hockey team, as good as they may look some times, they’re still a500 team (if not worse)

    • danhabsfan says:

      Totally agree… But. It’s really too bad. Need some changes to this line up. Not big enough or strong enough. Need speed and size

      • jctremblay says:

        Some people seem to think they are better than they are. They’d have to have Emelin, Proust, a fully healthy Max Pac (who isn’t all the way back yet), and have Chucky take the next step to be considered a team you have to worry about against elite competition. I thought they played a very good defensive game against a team that may well be the best in the league at the moment..on the road . on a back to back night. I’m happy with the team so far..they don’t have a lot of scoring and guys like Gionta who should be still sniping a few,,just aren’t. Wait till January to panic, this team should get better as the year wears on.

    • Mattyleg says:

      The Avalanche are 11-1.
      12 now.
      We held them back for most of the game, put the screws to them pretty hard, and it could have gone either way.
      To use this game to criticise our team is pretty poor understanding of hockey.

      —Hope Springs Eternal—

  73. kirbhabs says:

    yeah, PK worst game in a while, but hey perhaps we rely on him just a bit too much

  74. danhabsfan says:

    What I really hate is that the Leafs are so far ahead of us. Why an empty net?

  75. Timo says:

    PK is doing this on purpose. He wants out.

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