Liveblog: Barnburner at the Bell, and another L

Habs vs Leafs

Crazy game.
The Canadiens led 1-0, 2-1 and 4-3.
This is a team that can’t stand prosperity.

Mikhail Grabovski wins it in OT.

1,065 Comments

  1. MrsPrice says:

    I hope this improves

  2. duffy says:

    Obviously there is conflict between Cole and Martin so one of them needs to go.

  3. Mavid says:

    o zone, ..sounds retarded, well then why was it being used at the Canada vs US gold metal game..and I have heard it at many other non Habs game….chanting OLE has absolutly no bearing on the outcome of a game…its just something Habs fans do when they are happy or pumped up…its not a victory cheer…fans are not going to stop doing it..so move on to something important..

    second place is just the first loser

    • O-ZoneVertigo says:

      I always thought that we sing the ole ole when we’ve WON the game… so in that sense, to me it does sound retarded when you hear it as soon as the puck dropped.

      I know it has no bearing on the outcome of the game; was just using Boone’s line ;)

    • O-ZoneVertigo says:

      Actually, on second thought, I do remember that whenever I notice the chanting before actually winning the game, we ended up losing. So maybe it does somehow affect it ;)

  4. HABSsince92 says:

    This is not fun.

    The Scott Gomez line………..where wingers go to die.

    • habsfn4 says:

      The Habs continue to play a style of game that just won’t get them far. Yes, lots of speed. Lots of shots – but – the shots are from the point and from forwards just entering the offensive zone. (lucky last night, bad goaltending) On net, yes. But, they are hesitant to put the puck into the corners, battle, cycle, set up a man in front of the net. They don’t win those battles – too small so their game is gun and shoot. Maybe ok for a 4 – 8 seed and certainly not a Cup contender. No guts, no glory. But, yes, we need to right size and skill set.

      Earl Raven

  5. G-Man says:

    So, um….Budaj getting a start anytime soon? I mean, just for the hell of it. At worst, it gives a shaky goalie a little break to get his head back into the game.
    Another 4 goals scored, another 3rd period lead squandered. I’m starting to miss Campoli, ffs.

  6. immortalhab says:

    It has to be 2.

  7. habsfan0 says:

    1) Results of public inquiry determine that there is no corruption in construction industry in Quebec,that system is as clean as a whistle.
    2) Geoff Molson announces that he has signed Jacques Martin & Pierre Gauthier EACH to 5 year extensions.

    What is the worse case of the two?

  8. O-ZoneVertigo says:

    What’s up with the idiotic premature ‘ole ole’ at Bell Centre? Seriously, you can hear it with merely 2 min into the 1st period, which sounds totally retarded. Not to mention that it always jinx the game- without fail!

  9. Un Canadien errant says:

    Another one that stings. And more evidence that the Canadiens are not a Stanley Cup contender. This will be emphasized in our matchups against the Bruins and Flyers coming up soon.

    There has to be a way to penalize blatant, shameful dives like the one John-Micheal Liles took to draw a penalty against Travis Moen. I don’t want hockey to degenerate into soccer. It would be so simple for Brendan Shanahan and his minions to hand out game suspensions for those, they stand out on video review. It would also make his job easier, sorting out the serious boarding calls from those that are self-inflicted or embellished.

    Also, the league needs to protect goaltenders from rampaging buffaloes like Ryan Malone and Cody McCormick or Brian Gionta. As much as it was controversial, we need to go back to the ‘in the crease’ rule like it was applied in the 90′s. It cheapens the game to have players barreling into the goaltender because they can’t ‘solve’ him, it’s a cheat that shouldn’t be allowed. Some argue that it would reduce scoring, but the goals that are scored that way aren’t those that show up on highlight reels and take your breath away. Opposing players shouldn’t be in the goalie’s crease, end of story. Which, of course, by the way, Mr. Gionta wasn’t.

    Specific to this game, I noticed Erik Cole working very hard to make something happen. He’s catching some flak because his production hasn’t been what was anticipated, but I never saw any lack of effort. What I’d like to see is him lurking in the offensive zone, pouncing on a loose puck and cashing it in, but that will probably come when he gets a regular centre to be on the same wavelength with.

    Travis Moen was demeaned by some this summer because he’s not a feared heavyweight fighter. He’s showing that he’s more than that, a true energy player who plays with heart and can lift the team. Let’s hope that he won’t lead the team in scoring for long, but good to see him having success.

    Hal Gill turned it up a notch tonight, maybe inspired by his family seated behind the bench. At times, the antics of his young daughters was the most interesting thing to watch, and certainly when compared to Mr. Martin’s usual dour countenance. In any case, he stood out on many plays, instead of being his usual self-effacing defender. He was physical, surprised some Leafs by not always making the safe play off the boards, and showed leadership in a difficult situation.

    I hate to be uncharitable, but Andrei Kostitsyn drew my eye again, demonstrating his wizardly skill and low hockey IQ in the same game; he is our resident idiot-savant, this generation’s Gaston Gingras. He scored on a laser in the second, but also on three occasions that I saw gave away the puck when he had clear, unchallenged possession. Once on the powerplay in the opposing zone, and once while cruising inside the opposition blue line, he showed indecision and lack of hunger and the puck floated off his stick right to an opponent. Best case scenario is for him to score twenty before the trade deadline and we unload him to a contender for a first-round pick.

    Mike Komisarek was booed lustily when he carried the puck, but I chose to remember him fondly for the good years we had, like that ex-girlfriend you run into who still looks damn good and you almost forget why you broke up. I caught myself thinking that if the Leafs don’t want him we’d take him back, he’d bring a skill-set that is completely absent on the Canadiens blueline right now. Yannick Weber and Raphaël Diaz are clones of each other, and when Jaroslav Spacek returns he’ll be our third defenceman who is reputedly slick with the puck but devoid of size and strength. Building a team is best accomplished by bringing diverse talents together. You don’t build a great team with 20 Einsteins, you need a B.A. Barracus, a Face, a Murdoch and a Hannibal to lead them.

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    How about it NHL? No fighting, just hockey?

    http://relentlessineptitude.blogspot.com/

    • JayBee says:

      Gionta? Gionta wasn’t even in the blue ice. If a goalie ventures out of his crease then he’s fair game.

      • Un Canadien errant says:

        JayBee, I’m going to have to deduct points for reading comprehension. Go through the whole paragraph again. Then look up irony in the dictionary, and wonder why I juxtaposed those three players, and characterized them as buffaloes. Ponder on whether that applies to Mr. Gionta.

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        How about it NHL? No fighting, just hockey?

        http://relentlessineptitude.blogspot.com/

  10. habstrinifan says:

    It’s amazing the bad decisions that have been made by all in the management offices in behalf of this franchise. And dont talk about the french issue. It was not the reason. The main reasons are lack of planning, imagination and forsight borne out of a homegeneity of thought from the minds of men with a common trait of seclusion.

  11. smiler2729 says:

    I never did see or hear any of Jacques Martin’s presser… did we hear anything other than the standard blah blah blah about the “process” or the “system”???

    What a french shower

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    “If the Bruins played the Taliban, I’d root for the Taliban”

  12. HabCez says:

    At least i got in the top 5 in the fantasy hockey board.. :D
    other then that..
    sad day in sports for montrealers..
    Als lost and now Habs..

  13. HardHabits says:

    Pull my finger.

    • habstrinifan says:

      There! Doesnt help does it! You just have to vent and vent.. like we all are here.

      • HardHabits says:

        I have nothing to vent about. I let it all go a long time ago.

        I figure 2-3 years of pain outside of the play-offs is in store for us so let it go and just relax. No pain, no gain. The Habs need to rework their strategy. Stop the experiment with small players. Build a real team.

        Acquire a #1 centre.
        Have two scoring lines.
        Have a third line that is a defensive unit that is capable of playing against either of the opponent’s top lines.
        Have a fourth line that is all crash and bang energy.
        Have muscle and size on the back end.
        Understate trapping and emphasize fore checking.

        That doesn’t mean a team can’t use two-way forwards and puck moving defense men. Just don’t build a team exclusively out of two-way forwards and puck moving defense men, especially a team that is physically out matched in a sport that includes elements like checking, hitting and puck battles along the boards.

  14. habstrinifan says:

    An open letter to IAN. Please organize another summit and we can have a sit-in on the steps of the Bell Centre to demand accountability from Management.

    This is becoming a disgrace to the CH.

  15. Stu says:

    Very disappointing game.

  16. LatheDog says:

    Cole has been a bust so far this year. I’m not gonna give him a chance to adjust. As a veteran, he’s had enough time now. Do we have him for 3 or 4 years?

    Gorges coughed up the puck to Kessel.

    Price couldn’t stop a beach ball tonight. However his goal post made 4 great saves tonight.

    Moen’s boarding penalty was pretty much a fantom call. Total B.S.

    Leafs’ last tying goal should not have counted. Play should have been dead as the puck had touched the netting above the glass.

    Last but certainly not least, Jacques Martin’s gotta go along with Gauthier.

    Is it too late to get Muller back and make him head coach? Would he be able to leave his current coaching job?

    I made bets with 8 different Leaf-fan coworkers. I was so sure that we were gonna win this one finally. Not looking forward to work Monday morning.

    • Stev.R says:

      Price was fine tonight and don’t blame JM for the players not buying into the system. We all know how JM likes to coach and the way they were trying to play tonight was not the way he wants them to.

      • LatheDog says:

        If the players are not buying into the system, that’s the coach’s fault. It’s his job to have them convinced.

        • Stev.R says:

          Easier said than done. They’re professionals, they shouldn’t need convincing. I think alot of it has to do with new players still learning the system, players trying to cover for another player (thereby taking themselves out of position), and a lack of focus.

  17. Propwash says:

    I’m curios, the too many men on the ice penalty, is it really the coach’s responsibility, or the players? The rule is within 5 feet of the bench the player can be subbed……

    http://www.nhl.com/ice/page.htm?id=26485
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    • Stev.R says:

      Its the players fault. You gotta know when its your turn to go on the ice and for whom. They’re professionals. They should know that

      • Slightly Habnormal says:

        True..but the way JM shuffles the lines around at any given time it’s a wonder ANYONE knows which line they are on.

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        The more you know the less the better!

        • Stev.R says:

          I’ll agree the line juggling is frustrating, but players still have to know. And at least the first TMM penalty came after a PP when ofcourse things are going to be mixed up. Players gotta know whats going on.

      • Propwash says:

        Then why do people sh1t on JM for it? Lack of understanding how line changes work?

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  18. slychard says:

    Why is it we signed Cole at 4.5 million for the next 4 years…to sit in the penalty box to serve Martin’s lame bench penalties? I know we led the league last year and are well on the way to do the same this year but COME ON!!!!!! Twice tonight he put him in the box (I know one was for Price penalty) But come on!!!! Can someone remove that stick up Martin’s arse regarding Cole? Really what’s his beef with the guy. He’s treating him like a rookie! He had some pretty energetic shifts tonight. So what gives? It would behoove Molson to step in and protect his investment before things get dour to the point of no return between them. How about PG in this, why doesn’t he step in and ask him why he’s sutch a beeatch towards him. I don’t know. I just don’t get him (Martin) anymore.

    • Stev.R says:

      Cole didn’t have a single redeeming moment tonight and was the reason Grabovski got to the front of the net to score. If he wants to play, he better start playing

      • slychard says:

        How can you play if you don’t get the minutes. I saw him fly on a few shifts. As for the Grabovski winner lets face it he did an EXCELLENT move turning Cole inside out. Cole was so twisted he had no leverage to level Grabovski since he was on his heels at that point. Give credit where it’s due.

        • Stev.R says:

          Cole was too slow to get to the net, didn’t box him out and didn’t use his much larger body to keep Grabovski away from the net.

          I saw him fly too. Everytime he got stood up by that Gardiner kid by either a poke check or steered into the corner. Didnt even try overpower his way to the net.

          He’s never near the net! And he nevers gets a rebound. No fight in this guy.

          • slychard says:

            Well I beg to differ Grabovski did an awesome move. Goody for him. As for Cole I blame Martin for not using him properly from the get go. He is a coach and is supposed to be there for the players and he’s obviously got Cole playing scared. He’s a poor communicator. As for the too many men situation? It’s both the players and the coaches job to make sure the transitions go smoothly. Not simply the players. Why is it we lead the league in bench penalties since Martin’s at the helm? All the different players who’ve come and gone? No the coach. Anyway I’m out of here. This place is depressing. Enjoy the rest of the season, it’s gonna be a long one.

      • habstrinifan says:

        Let’s get rid of him as we have gotten rid of all the players who underperformed in Montreal and are now plying their trade happily elsewhere. And while we are at it send out a missive to any pending UFA that signing for big bucks does not necessarily mean that JM will condescend to talk to you.

  19. mike3131 says:

    For Price haters, look at it this way:

    Goal 1:
    Terrible face-off coverage, shot from the point, tipped at the last second – No chance
    Goal 2:
    Gorges carries the puck in front of the net, gets doubled up, puck ends up on Kessel (the NHL’s top scorer)’s blade and all he coulda done was finish, while PK is smoking a cigar in the corner – No chance
    Goal 3:
    PP goal due to a stupid penalty by Weber… Helluva shot by Phaneuf off a one-timer with Engqvist trying to block the shot but doing nothing but screening Price – Not much he can do
    Goal 4:
    Shouldn’t have counted but the puck bounced to the crease with like 6 players around the blue paint – No chance
    OT winner:
    Grabovski left WIDE OPEN because of poor D-zone coverage (Gill covering Liles?! Cole covering net front?!), Grabovski put a nice move and finished – No chance for Price

    I guess one can say Price isn’t making the BIG saves in 2011-12 like he did last year, but he’s doing what he can to stop the puck. Unfortunately, poor coaching, poor management and a depleted, soft, inexperienced, shallow D are not gonna win us many hockey games.

  20. gumper says:

    Watching Habs and Ticats tonight with my son (26). Yeah, I know, everybody here cheers for the Als. At least you got that goin’ for ya. Parallels between Ticats and Habs, however, are mind boggling. Passive owner, GM who makes bizarre, inexplicable blunders which are not noticed by passive owner. Coach who doesn’t know how to spell passion, let alone instill it. Result, teams that perennially nudge themselves toward mediocrity. But I digress. My son comments to me tonight that, since the time he really remembers following the Habs, he can’t remember a team that had enough grit to be able to intimidate even the meekest of teams in the league. Seems, he says, that there’s some unwritten rule in Montreal that winning by physically overpowering other teams is just not cricket. Well, at least I’ve got the teams from the 60s and 70s to think about, but we have a whole generation of Habs fans who have never seen anything but mediocrity. (While our team is small, but emphasizes speed, other teams are big and emphasize speed.) What reason do these next-gen Habs fans have for continuing to support the team. Its history? The great jerseys? Please, Mr. Molson, give me your answer to that question. What is it we’re all holding on for, the next rebuild? Ah, hell, I had one too many Taliskers tonight. Celebrating the fading sunset of mediocrity. Leafs rule!

  21. habstrinifan says:

    If JM and PG are left to run things much longer, then La Belle Province will end up with no MLB team, no NFL team, no NBA team, and no NHL team… unless Quebec gats a franchise.

    And Bob Gainey… I admire you and respect you but, whether it was because of family problems, disinterest or succumbing to the pressure of the GM’S job in Montreal, the decisions you made which brought us PG, and JM, and Gomez etc will haunt this franchise for a long long time.
    You tarnished your legacy.

    If you are still associated with this team Bob, step in and advise Molson to clean house.

  22. ProHabs says:

    Some questions that I would like Jacques to answer:
    - Why is Darche on the first wave of the powerplay with MaxPac, Cole, Gionta and AK on the bench?

    - Why are 2 players jumping over the bench and onto the ice when only 1 should be?

    - When playing 4 on 4 in overtime, with lots of open ice, why is Hal Gill on the ice?

    - Why are players on the other team allowed to run Price and go after Subban without anyone responding?

    - How come the opposition puts in a shakey goalie and your team goes about 10 minutes without a shot on goal on him?

    Come on Jacques, you should be a better coach than that.

    • Danno says:

      Dean Martin would have done a better job than Jacques Martin

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      “Hey Richard, two minutes for looking so good!”

    • Stev.R says:

      1. Those players were tired or weren’t playing good enough to be on the ice.

      2. Ask the players. Thats their fault.

      3. Why is Hal Gill in the league.

      4. They are not “allowed”. Those are penalties. Why not ask the refs why they wouldn’t call the game properly.

      5. You mean that first shot, that we scored on, 29 seconds into the period???

      • Shane1313 says:

        Again, weird how we’re throwing players under the bus, overall Gill had a good game – save – one shift

        • Stev.R says:

          I think most people are saying Gill had a good game tonight because he almost fought. Gill is a terrible fighter and I never want to see him fight but atleast it shows a little passion which has been a lacking from the team as of late. However, I still saw Gill give the puck away numerous times and get caught out of positions numerous times. I’ll admit he wasn’t terrible tonight but he was far from having a great game. The mistake he makes though are caused by things he sucks at, which we should be familiar with by now, and not because of lack of focus.

    • BrianSkrudland says:

      Couldn’t agree with you more.

      The amount of ice time that Darche has received on the PP is puzzling and wasted.

      I thought Gill had a very solid and spirited game overall, but any OT time was a huge error on Martin’s part.

      On a positive note, I loved the way Eller performed tonight. Seeing other teams take liberties with Habs players – specifically, Price – is damn frustrating!

  23. TorontoHabsFan says:

    Gill 1,001 GP
    Gorges 370 GP
    Subban 85 GP
    Weber 55 GP
    Diaz 6 GP
    Yemelin 5 GP

    Markov 623 GP
    Spacek 836 GP
    Campoli 398 GP

  24. savethepuck says:

    I have no idea how anyone can be blaming Carey for that game. I’d like to know which goals people are blaming on him. The first 1 that was deflected 6 ft in front of him? Maybe the 2nd one that Gorges put on Kessels stick in front of the net? Maybe the 3rd one that was a rocket from Phaneuf from the top of the circle? Maybe it was the 4th one that the puck went off his shoulder and hung up in the netting and dropped on a Toronto stick ( that for some reason four effin zebras didn’t see) followed by 2 passes and a shot he saves fololowed by a great save on the rebound that goes acroos the crease onto a Toronto player’s stick for a goal? Maybe the Grabovski goal that anyone has to admit was a nice play, but no way he should of been allowed to skate out in front without anyone stopping him? This was a game that his GAA and sve% took a $#it kicking but he couldn’t of been faulted on any of them and he made a lot of huge saves.

  25. Habitant in Surrey says:

    …if I can find ‘something’ humorous about tonight it is I just received this second HIO’s push notice on My Ipod Touch that Gorges just scored …Habs 4 the Weeds 3 !!!
    …Go Habs Gooooo !!!
    :)

    Habitant means PASSIONATE HOCKEY
    http://www.nationalpost.com/news/story.html?id=423049

  26. Habbu says:

    These games are not fun to watch. I think I’ll take some time off from hockey, maybe go down to South America tomorrow

  27. J.Ambrose.OBrien says:

    RANDOM THOUGHTS:

    * The only thing the pre-injury Gorges has in common with the post-injury Gorges is his name

    * Meanwhile, Hal Gill had a terrific game. He suddenly played like a 6’7 player.

    * 2 years of Too Many Men penalties. You can blame the players for bad changes for only so long. Time for JM to man-up and accept responsibility.

    * the PP is simply embarrassing — 5 of 29!!! A coach who preaches special teams is incapable of fixing it. His answer is to use Darche over Cole, and rudely laughs at the reporter who dares ask him why he uses Darche.

    * say what you like about Spacek. We could’ve used his experience out there tonight.

    * great chemistry between AK, Eller, and Moen. That line was one of the two best lines, just as AK, DD, and Patches were against the Sabres. And what happened to the DD/Patches line? Hint: he was Gauthier’s big signing this season.

    * I LOVED Pleks with Cammy and Gionta. I don’t care if they are a small line. Let the opposition throw their most physical d-pair out there against them, and we can follow up with AK, Eller, and Moen who are fully able and willing to play rough and tumble hockey.

    * I’ve said it for three years now: we desperately need a TRUE fourth line. Not a reserve line for excess players. The Penguins are all the illustration one needs.

    * finally, Eller is better than Gomez. By a loooong shot!

    I remember Dec. 31, 1975

    • PureGuava says:

      It takes Scott Gomez not being in the lineup for everyone to see the power of Eller. Lars played his first true game as a top 2 center in Montreal and did not look out of place.

      Peculiar that he saw no time on the powerplay though…Zip.

    • Stev.R says:

      My more concentrated thoughts:

      TMM penalties are the players fault. Never the coach. Players need to focus.

      Eller is definitely better than Gomez, and will be even better in the future.

      If Cole wants ice time, then he needs to play with half an ounce of passion when he IS on the ice.

      Pacioretty needs to consistently play wit energy.

      Gio needs to be the spark that ignites this team every game.

      Fans complain when we play a reserved defensive game, and when we play an out of control offensive game. Make up your mind. The players aren’t committing to the system and our new players are still learning it. Quit using JM as a scapegoat and recognize who the blame really falls on.

  28. ManApart says:

    LOL, now all of you are seeing what I saw years ago. Honestly I’m sickened by all of you. I tried to warn you…… You really deserve this, I’m out

  29. HardHabits says:

    I think the Habs should give Mario Tremblay one more chance as coach, replace PG with Michel Bergeron, and put Pierre McGuire in charge of drafting.

  30. habfan01 says:

    When did the idea that we need a french coach and GM come about? Frank Selke and Toe Blake= Stanley Cups, Sam Pollack and Scotty Bowman=Stanley Cups. Rejean Houle and Mario Trembley=no Cups, Pierre Gauthier and Jacques Martin= no cups.

  31. matrags says:

    and so , llet us releae the hounds……why did we sign Eric Cole if we were not going to use him. Seriously would you have put him on our dept chart below Darche , Moen , Eller , etc , etc , etc , please some one explain what is goning on here. our major acquisition in the off season , four million a yr no less, doesnt rate first or second line minutes ;.. Why is our best d men , newly signed to a three yr deal in Florida under wraps with a wonky knee. Why cant anyone say what the deal is with markov , what gives except maybe we signed damaged goods , and are afraid to admit it. Why should anyone have to make excuses for this sorry mess except Management that created it , enough of rationalization and excuses we have been badly taken by a management team that has a singular record of having never won anything . Mr Molson Please ……help !!!!!!!!!

  32. Slightly Habnormal says:

    Torches? CHECK
    Angry mob? CHECK
    Jacques Martin effigy? CHECK

    Ok. Let’s get started.

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  33. avatar_58 says:

    Hey I know, have some more awards and milestone announcements. That always makes them play better. Hey give Price the molson cup again, he loves those things.

  34. 1010 says:

    Why is everyone so negative? It’s early in the season.
    The D is young and banged up but they’ll get better. Are you guys real fans? Support your team and don’t be negative.
    Jacques is gonna fix this( I know, he has to start by getting his players to learn how to count to seven).
    Eller looked good out their…didn’t he?
    If he continues to improve they’ll put him on the ice for a 5 on 3.
    Man, we’re a work in progress.
    I see machine gun Darche as a top six player, not to mention our top powerplay specialist, that can score us out of this.
    Everyone stay calm. They’re learning. Actually, they are in the second phase of a twenty year plan to win it all.
    I’m feeling really upbeat right now. There is so much to like about how these guys are playing right now.
    Does anybody else feel this good?
    Timo, how about you?

    GO HABS…

    • habsfaninboston says:

      Hold on, let me take another hit from my bong.
      OK, I’m starting to feel it.

    • RGM says:

      “You play to win the game”

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      GO HABS GO! 2011-12 is our year!

    • smiler2729 says:

      Because in Gary’s NHL, if you’re not in a playoff spot by November 1st the odds are you’ll be watching playoff hockey from the 19th hole…

      JM’s a complete moron, has Darche on PPs and Cole and Eller sit. What’s with Cole anyway, does JM not know how to use the guy??? 3rd line minutes and no PP time??

      huh huh huh I wrote ‘PP time’ heh heh heh

      Anyways, this was a MUST-WIN game and they played as soft and confused as ever, mark my words NO PLAYOFFS IN 2012… but then the world’s ending anyways…

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    • Habby says:

      I’m with you here. We’re putting up more goals some times than we did last year. That’s a positive. But our D appears to be making some pretty sad mistakes. It’s gotta be inexperience. Managament did try to bring in Campoli and I guess they thought Markov would be alright. Since both those things went out the window we’re a bit of a mess. But guys like PK and Weber should not be making mistakes. They’re no longer rookies. Time to grow up.

      The other issue we got is our PP. No idea how to fix that. Maybe call up Kirk?

      I just want to say this though: if we fire the coach and/or GM and we don’t get suitable replacements then what will all the “FIRE JM & PG NOW” people do? Settle for a tank? This, I suppose, is the same reason why Gomez is never sent down. If he was and we still sucked then what? Sure it’s worth a shot but there’s no guarantee.

      Perhaps we need to work with what we’ve got. This team can play better. It showed a little of its strength against Winnipeg, and occasionally (see Moen) shows some of its true skills. We need to coordinate to get that PP going and get the D to improve. The goals will pour in, and will stop being poured in against us. Just a bit of patience.

      Besides you can’t taste sucess without tasting defeat.

  35. Ed says:

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    3P 18:10 Reimer stops that
    by mboone 10:44 PM
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    Boone, you should not criticize octogenarian Bob Cole for getting names wrong, when you have the same problem. Reimer did not play after the first period, & was replaced by Gustavsson.

    Cole is doing live play by play, while you are not. Plus Reimer had been gone for almost 2 periods. I hope that your only excuse is booze. :)

  36. Neutral says:

    The Grabovski show. The player the Habs didn’t want. The same will happen when they get rid of AK…

  37. smiler2729 says:

    If Plekanec is your number 1 center, you’re in trouble. Never wins important faceoffs, passes when he should shoot and when he does shoot, misses the f***in’ net.

    As for AK46, what the hell is he still with this team for??? Coulda let him walk but no PG throws $3 million+ at him.

    Same for Markov, $5 million+ for a defenceman with chronic china doll syndrome, heck, most of these new guys brought in back in the ’09 purge have only met the guy a handful of times…

    Gauthier will stick with this old school coach whom the game has passed by and Gauthier will stick with these soft chickensh*t players and the Habs are back in the late ’90s Reggie days of non-playoff mediocrity… yay for the fans.

    This team is mostly brutal to watch except for the odd beauty Cammy goal or Price save.

    I’m losing interest in the NHL game anyways, Gary’s World sucks.

    “If the Bruins played the Taliban, I’d root for the Taliban”

    • CanadienBoy says:

      Why keep the wiz or Hammer went you got Markov on er you trade for the guy and let them go

    • Shane1313 says:

      AK has been fantastic.

    • Mike D says:

      Regarding AK – 3.25mil for a guy who consistently get over 20 goals is actually good value given the current market.

      - Honestly yours

    • Stev.R says:

      And Plekanec, as quiet as he was tonight, was still our best forward.

      • Bob_Sacamano says:

        Wouldn´t say that but Plekanec and Kostitsyn (easily one of our three best forwards today) are certainly not our biggest problems. When Kostitsyn gets criticzed after a decent game with just one stupid mistake, two points and a +2 while the captain who didn´t have a point (+/- -2) doesn´t get mentioned, I can only laugh.

    • BrianSkrudland says:

      You don’t think that Plekanec belongs amongst the top 30 centres in the league; or, that if he is your top centre that your team will not be amongst the league’s best?

      The guy is a heck of a player, in my opinion. In fact, by NHL players’ standards he was deemed to be one of the most underrated in the league.

      Just looking for clarification on your take on Plekanec.

    • habbernack says:

      Moen, eller, AK combined for 6 pts tonight. Something wrong with that?

      ability is what you’re capable of doing.
      attitude determines how you do it

    • J.Ambrose.OBrien says:

      Stopped reading after your first two paragraphs when you slagged two of tonight’s best performers. Loooong line of culpable characters ahead of those two.

      I remember Dec. 31, 1975

    • JayBee says:

      Andrei is the least of our problems. He’s played pretty well and he’s one of the few on the team that

      a) Is Physical
      b) can score

  38. dhenry1234 says:

    I’m getting pissed off that this team is starting to really waste my time. 1 win in 7 games. That’s about 21 hour of my life I’ll never get back. about 18 of those hours were me being pissed off. And that’s not even counting pre season.

    Hey Habs, how about you win a god damn game already

  39. ManApart says:

    The Price is wrong !! This team is even worse than I could have imagined. BG/PG your time is short

  40. Shane1313 says:

    Man, we just can’t get it done. It’s a bit frustrating, but considering we’re still in October we probably shouldn’t be freaking out. There has to be some understanding that until Markov comes back, it is not easy to replace Hamrlik who ate a lot of minutes and Wiz who played some pretty hockey. Lots of positives, but I guess people don’t like to think about them…how bout AK? he’s been fantastic.

    “Keep Calm and Carry On” – Winston Churchill anybody? no?

  41. Gus says:

    Google Earth showing moving van in front of Jacques’ house – oops, looks like there could be too many men in the truck.

    • Stev.R says:

      Curious as to why people feel the TMM penalties are JMs fault. Its not like he pushes the 6th player onto the ice.

      Its the players fault. Anyone who has ever played knows its the player who doesn’t focus on whats going on who causes the TMM penalties

  42. JF says:

    We are now in sole possession of 15th place. And in two days we get to watch them lose again, then three more times next week.

    We won’t win many games with Price playing the way he is. Not that he’s terrible, but he’s not good either. His numbers speak for themselves.

    A badly played game, but the team kept battling. I guess that’s the positive, plus the loser point of course.

    • Propwash says:

      The deal is, Price has to post shutout games, every game to bail the team out. Never will happen with any goalie anywhere.

      _____________________
      Dooooooooooooooomed!™

      • JF says:

        Price doesn’t have to get shutouts, but he has to be better than he’s been. I think his save percentage tonight was about .870. For the season so far it’s under .890. Those aren’t good numbers.

    • gumper says:

      Holy crap! Really? Price? This D makes every night look like the last defence of Stalingrad, and you blame Price? If you want to blame anybody blame Gauthier. Gone – Wiz, Sopel, Mara, Hammer – replaced by Markov, Yemelin, Diaz and at the last minute out of panic Campoli. Now looks where we are. The reason we can’t win is, 1. we can’t make a good outlet pass to clear the zone 2. we are so small that down low every team in the league can kick the crap out of us. It’s obvious to a blind man that what’s costing this team wins is its not-quite-ready-for-the-KHL defence. Gauthier has blown this one big time. It’ll be interesting to see what comes first, a blow-the-rest-of-the-cap desperation signing or a Gauthier firing. My money’s on the former. Fed up with cheering for this team.

      • JF says:

        All of that is true, but Price is not playing anywhere near as well as he usually does.

        As for Gauthier’s moves, most people didn’t want Hamrlik for two years or the Wiz for 6 years at 5.5 million. Signing Markov was a gamble, which so far hasn’t paid off. The D is inexperienced and of course makes mistakes, but all those three guys (Diaz, Weber, Emelin) are going to be good. Gorges has lost a step since his surgery; maybe he’ll get it back.

        I’m not sure lack of size had anything to do with today’s loss. The officiating was horrendous, especially on the Leafs’ fourth goal, but mostly the team looked ill-prepared (again). Passes were off the mark and there was little cohesion. The powerplay is a mess, and the penalties killed us. These things are on JM. At least the team showed some heart, and Eller, Kostitsyn, and a couple of others were good.

        • gumper says:

          I guess this is a good example of how two people can look at the same series of events and see two completely different things. To me, Habs D was punished in the corners all night long by larger, faster Toronto forwards. But you have to admit that whether they were good, or horrible, blaming the officials for a loss is a mugs game, and a loser’s mentality. Bad officiating will happen. Good teams overcome it.

  43. Gus says:

    Eller interviewed after the game “They changed goalies? I honestly didn’t know they did that…when did they change the goalie”? One would think the players would notice that, or at the very least the coaching staff would… Eller played a good game, but this is indicative of the lack of attention and focus the team has right now.

  44. TheMock780 says:

    JM’s coaching just isn’t working at all. What are some catchy, early season slogan’s for falling for Yakupov or Ryan Murray?

  45. Danno says:

    I just figured out why Bettman doesn’t want to give Quebec City an NHL team.

    It’s because if he does, Montreal would want one too…

    ________________________________________

    “Hey Richard, two minutes for looking so good!”

  46. piper says:

    i’ve stuck with this team through thick and thin since 70, but enough is enough. i’ll start watching again when the goat and the count are gone. now i have to go listen to all my leaf fan buddies in the morning……..thanks guys.

  47. Stev.R says:

    Its a tale of two teams. Pleks, Cammy, Eller, DD, Moen, Kostitsyn, Diaz, Weber, Gorges have pulled their weight. I’ll give Gio a break because I’m positive he’ll pick it up. Patches has been off and on. The rest have to be better.

  48. Chuck says:

    If there’s a silver lining in all of this, it’s that the Leafs tying goals should have never counted, what with the puck having gone out of play.

    Oh, and the server sucks, too.

  49. habsfaninboston says:

    Not looking forward to the upcoming week’s schedule.

    • showey47 says:

      Depends on how you look at it. If you are hoping for a JM firing you couldn’t ask for a better one.

      • Stev.R says:

        JM isn’t getting fired. Smarten up. This is the players fault.

        • avatar_58 says:

          So trade them. Make a goddamn move. Do something.

          Sitting here crying every game is pointless and I’m tired of watching them

        • showey47 says:

          You don’t think there isn’t a chance JM gets canned if we are 1-8-2 by next saturday night? Which judging by the schedule is very,very possible. When was the last time a coach was fired when it wasn’t the players fault? I’m not saying its right,but thats the way it is.

          • HardHabits says:

            You can’t fire a whole team so JM’s head had the Sword of Damocles hanging over it but I suspect he is here to finish his contract even if the Habs finish last. Either way I don’t care about a coaching change. I just don’t want to see a panic move trade.

            Time to rebuild. Slowly. Methodically. Patiently. Painfully.

            IMO it will be 2-3 years until this team will be back in the play-offs. Forget about contending for Cup.

            Might as well stock up on draft picks in the mean time.

  50. mike3131 says:

    You have to admit the Leafs D is much better than our blue line. Phaneuf, Liles (underrated), Schenn, Gardiner (played a great game), and even Homosarek, Gunnarsson are much better than PK, Gorges, Gill, Diaz, Weber and Emelin… even if you throw in Spacek.

  51. topher5468 says:

    Server sucks, JM sucks.

    “It’s not an obsession, It’s a way of life..”

  52. Propwash says:

    Move the team to Quebec!

    _____________________
    Dooooooooooooooomed!™

  53. DOAHABS says:

    Love the boone title “Barn Burner at the Bell” –Really , yes this should send shockwaves around the league and scare everyone from wanting to come here or toronto,.Habs -Leafs have 9 goals scored and have to go to OT,…yup that’s a “Bar Burner”
    Habs still stink since 1993……………
    Good thing we’ve got a franchise goalie to keep us in these close ones & a coach who know how to play under pressure-LOl

  54. DOAHABS says:

    Love the boone title “Barn Burner at the Belle” –Really , yes this should send shockwaves around the league and scare everyone from wanting to come here or toronto,.Habs -Leafs have 9 goals scored and have to go to OT,…yup that’s a “Bar Burner”
    Habs still stink since 1993……………
    Good thing we’ve got a franchise goalie to keep us in these close ones & a coach who know how to play under pressure-LOl

  55. At least Moen is on pace for 47 goals..

  56. kempie says:

    If I was JM, I’d think maybe it’s time to try Moen-Enquvist-Darche for 18 minutes a night & first wave PP. Don’t laugh, you know it could happen.

  57. TorontoHabsFan says:

    Gill 1,001 GP
    Gorges 370 GP
    Subban 85 GP
    Weber 55 GP
    Diaz 6 GP
    Yemelin 5 GP

    Markov 623 GP
    Spacek 836 GP
    Campoli 398 GP

    That is all.

  58. DOAHABS says:

    Love the boone title “Barn Burner at the Belle” –Really , yes this should send shockwaves around the league and scare everyone from wanting to come here or toronto,.Habe -Leafs have 9 goals scored and have to go to OT,…yup that’s a “Bar Burner”
    Habs still stink since 1993……………
    Good thing we’ve got a franchise goalie to keep us in these close ones 7 a coach who know how to play under pressure-LOl

  59. Jdub1985 says:

    Give management some pepsi and may west and send em packing

  60. higginrs says:

    Work on this and we start to win:
    1. Tape to tape passing. How many passes went off skates or were a total miss?
    2. Bury your shots! How many shots went wide or weren’t even close?
    3. LINE CHANGES! This is an embarassment. Line changes should be clean. No too many man penalties.

    Coach, you are responsible for getting the team prepared. This team looked ill-prepared once again.

  61. BKAK72 says:

    PRE-SEASON 0-6-1
    SEASON 1-4-2

    1 win in 14 games? Right.

    – HABS INSIDE/OUT R.I.P. –

  62. zozotheclown says:

    Last place in the east by the way, just thought I’d cheer you guys up

  63. Danno says:

    Time has come today

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wanoXM90yHE

    ________________________________________

    “Hey Richard, two minutes for looking so good!”

  64. LTHF says:

    Guess who was out on D for the winning goal and well out of position?

  65. Stev.R says:

    And Cole lets him walk out front for free. This is what I dreaded when we signed him. He’s Kostitsyn w/o the natural talent

  66. Bill says:

    This is brutal. Worst Habs start I can remember personally. And they just look so bad doing it too. Injuries, yeah, sure. Leafs are missing some guys too I believe … that excuse only goes so far.

    So bad. SO so bad.

    Full Breezer 4 Life

  67. Matt. says:

    well, the Canadiens took the top team in their division and the best team in canada to overtime and lost.
    can’t be to upset at that
    … right?

  68. Habbu says:

    Let me the first to thank Jacques & Pierre for their efforts and wish them well in their future endeavors

  69. PureGuava says:

    He put Eller out there for the faceoff and then subbed him out for Cole!

    Honestly….

  70. Sheldon says:

    Maybe we should have kept Grabs and given him some ice time?

  71. Jdub1985 says:

    Can we please have an english coach this time…

  72. duffy says:

    THREE MORE LOSSES AND WE MAY SEE SOME ACTION.

  73. DearyLeary says:

    It’s all a fiendish Gauthier plot. Ruin Price’s numbers so that he’s cheaper with his last RFA contract, and secure Nail Yakupov in the draft.

    It’s FOOLPROOF!

  74. C-Sword says:

    Eller should’ve stayed on the ice after winning the face-off.


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