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Two leads, actually.
1-0 and 2-1.
It’s that kind of season.
Michalek: Sprawling stick save
DD: Backhand goal
@ L Elle
Think about the loss you need, not the win they’ll get. Tanking is not for the faint hearted, I tell ya. You have to want it!
Ok, but I’m CHeering a Hab goal, too bad. LOL
Sorry fellow Tankommentariat, Ottawa is probably my least favourite team. Can’t bring myself to hope to lose THREE times to them.
I’d need therapy after.
I’d buy u a pint…..
Don’t let the wultures getcha.
Dr. Guinness it is!
I’m gonna need a BIG dose. hahaha
What if Gomez got amnesia and for got that he sucks….
If he does, the mgmt better tell him his name is Wayne Gretzky.
“You cannot petition the lord with prayer!” – James Douglas Morrison
HAA! Cool, Kabs named his son the same as mine, spelled the same way as well.
Agreeing with the spirits on here right now…
A few weeks ago, a lot of us including me, were feeling too dignified to want a loss when we watch the team play. I am not there anymore.
I still jumped up when DD scored that tying goal late against Buffalo, before I slapped myself back to reason.
@ Mondou, “Slacka for Faksa”???
Anyways, why does he have his rings in his ears? That doesn’t make sense.
Gotta pick up Mamabear at work, so Ill be hearing the 1st on the radio.
Time to bail! Off to the other musketeers’ for beer, nuts (no, not the exclamation type after a bad game), recliners and big screen for a good game! Guinness anyone?
Wow, that’s a pretty nasty stat that Boone just posted about the goals for/against in the 3rd. Ottawa look pretty nasty in the 3rd.
Nasty I tell ya, Nasty!
I’m with you Bripro… that’s pretty nasty
Probably the brewskies starting to kick in before the game but I gotta say it’s nice to see some many of my fellow Habs brethren and sisteren (?) root for the Jets like that. I’ve been to many-a-Jets-game this season and can now only imagine how it’s like at the Bell Centre with an extra 6k wild (not Minnesota) fans.
However, whoever is in charge for all the pre-gamr celebrations in Mtl to talk to our guys. Ours suck. We had a 10 minute tribute to the first water used to make the ice at the MTS centre to brew some Budweiser. Then, on a red carpet, two ceo execs drank that beer. No speech, no thank yous, not even a special beer price for the game. Just two rich fatcats drinking beer in front of us schmucks.
I’m with you Hab…that’s pretty sad.
Markov’s first home game in a long time, I expect the Bell Centre to be rocking & the home team to dish out a butt kicking against the Sens.
Go Habs Go!!!!!!!!!!!
.04% chance not zero..not yet…
@fansincebirth..I feel your pain..me too..worse fans bar none..yes even leaf fans…
Questions on here about who to cheer for in the playoffs and I can tell you that 100% I will never cheer for the Sens. I live in Ottawa and I have to deal with the pompous, arrogant, no-mind fans on a regular basis and my hatred of the Sens stems from them.
Try living in a Boston based market. You’ve never seen such arrogance and ignorance combined.
It is the reaction from all the BEANS my friend!!!
I live in Ottawa and I find the Sens, their media and fans tolerable. I listen to the The Team 1200 on my drive and they talk a lot of Habs good and bad.
Thats great. Although I live closer to Montreal than Boston, our media is too ignorant to be able to cover more than one franchise.
My family is going to Cape Cod and Boston this summer. They offered for the girlfriend and I to join and I said forget it. If I met one obnoxious Bruins fan I’d lace him right out in the street and probably get in trouble.
Anytime the Patriots, Celtics and especially Red Sox and Bruins play I get great pleasure in watching the idiotic Bostonians file out of the stadium after a loss.
Please enjoy this. I listen to it all the time to make myself feel good…
wait … hockey season is still going on?
Does this 3 game series with Ottawa make it a 12-pointer?
Like in 12 point buck!
EVERY TIME THERE IS A CONCUSSION< SUCH AS GOMEZ< I WANT TO PUT THIS UP!
After concussion, severe depression and it can kill.!
What is a concussion?, as comprehended and explained by myself.
I have been involved as a lay person with research pertaining to neurology at a major medical university. I have picked up a lot of information working first with veterinarian pathologists when I was doing research on my fox and mink ranch with calcium. And I have been involved lately with the neurology research dept. from a major medical university. Only as the handler of the research birds involved in the study and offering some of my former findings from my own autopsy's So I do not profess to be an expert on the subject pertaining to concussion, but I will try to explain, the best that I can, what happens to the brain cells that have been concussed inside the skull. And why one must stay completely resting after a concussion.
The very soft brain cells, when violently thrown against the skull, are damaged and the neuron releases a potassium chemical out of the brain cell. Leaving a void. Calcium that is already present around the outside of the cells, seeps into the cells replacing the potassium. This calcium is what gives the chemical imbalance to the brain and is what causes the damage. Until all of this calcium leaves the brain cells completely, and it can take a long time, depending on how much calcium was taken on each cell. The patient is left extremely vulnerable to instant death upon a second bump, or at least permanent brain damage as the calcium solidifies upon second impact. Even a hard coughing spell or light exercise can cause severe pain and damage. Complete rest is needed.
These damaged cells have to be cleared completely of this calcium before one can resume activity to avoid more serious consequences including death. This is very acute in young people under the age of 24 as the brain is still growing and developing. Please, coaches and parents know this, every severe contact to the head can cause some cells to expel potassium and take on calcium. A second, even slight bump, with the cells still containing calcium, can be even more deadly.
@dulljerk..your name is appropriate..I am late with the response as I needed to down some chow so I am prepared for the game at 7 as far as taking Neil in a minute..never..not in any minutes/hours/days/or years..he is a slug..with a giant cement head..there have I been clear enough for you?
I squirm in my chair on every shift hoping for the best play for our guys. I want to win every shift, but I also want a shot at a 1st over all draft pick for just once.
That’s how I feel, Ian. If they win, great. If they lose, oh well.
If they’re going to lose, lose proud. Don’t roll over for any team.
Enjoy tonight Don!
I will, Ian. I’ll try not to squirm too much.
cheer for the senaturds..never..the jets..maybe the rangers..I like what torts has done with them..an original six..but I will see who makes it and go from there..the Jets would be really nice..I could get behind them 100%
When Desharnais was jumping up and down after scoring that late goal in Buffalo it was a clear signal that the majority of players on this team are still busting their buts and hungry to win.
Subban, Cole and others were super excited and busting their asses trying to tie that game.
So while management might make subtle lineup adjustments that they wouldn’t in an important game it is impressive to see the majority of players trying to win every game.
New coach, healthy squad and 82 games next year there is no way this team doesn’t make the playoffs.
That’s true, but I want to contend for the Cup, not scrape for the 8th seed again.
If we hit a superstar player in the lottery next year, we could contend for a Cup.
If not, we could make the playoffs, and a likely early exit.
The cards will fall as they will. No GM, coach or team ahead of us are purposely trying to lose either.
I think with zero changes next year we make the playoffs, if healthy. The following season a little better and so on…
Serious Question to those that want the Habs to lose remaining games. I am fully in agreement that the better our draft position this season the better it is for our teams future. Having said that, to want a team to lose is to say I want the players on the Habs to play like crap, I want them to intentionally lose. But do any you actually cheer for a loss?
Our team is going to finish where it finishes, the last thing I would want to find out is that players on this squad were so comfortable in their position on this team that they felt losing to gain a better player was in their best interests.
I don’t think many people actually cheer for a loss, but are rather given a silver lining when the game is over and we have lost the game. But part of this team improving is learning every shift and every game how to work better with each other and improve their weaknesses.
I speak for myself only, but i cannot watch a shift or a game and hope the other team keeps scoring and we play like crap. I will say that this team is what it is, and because of that, we will lose more than we win from here on out.
I am the same way, I actually did a few fist pumps when DD scored to tie the game on Monday. I know the season is toast and I want the Habs to get the highest possible draft pick, but I still get excited when the score or play a good game. On the other hand, if the Habs keep winning, the Loafs might end up with a higher draft pick than the Habs, and we can’t have that.
Yeah, it’s hard because I’m rooting for the players to play well, to reach goal and points milestones, etc.
But intellectually, we desperately need a good player in the draft. Winning a bunch of games and ending up with a mediocre pick does not help us at all for next year.
So I’m torn…I cheer when we score, like the last second one in Buffalo. But then when the game is over, and I see us moving closer to losing out on a good pick, I get kind of bummed out.
I wish we were as bad as Columbus, and had the pick sewn up, so I could just root for us to win with no regrets later.
The problem is they will play like crap no matter what.
Against Buffalo we just sucked. Somehow we managed to get a consolation point.
But the point doesn’t help.
And it isn’t like we can feel good about the team after that performance.
Ever tried. Ever failed. No matter. Try again. Fail again. Fail better.
Yeah, I just want to see them keep trying. If they lose, they lose. Hurray better draft. If they win, even better. Maybe they can end the season on a (slight) positive and string a few wins in a row and carry that attitude along with a clean slate mentality and get ‘er goin’ next year.
I think everyone’s unanimous.
Give us some good entertainment, but lose just enough that a high draft pick is a given.
It took us a while, but that is th consensus position.
I hate watching the Habs lose. I hate even hearing about them having a losing season. I really hate those taking joy in it with their “Fail for Nail” or other a-hole slogans like that. I agree with Viggo- the Habs will be back with a vengeance next season!
Side Bar Question. Cheering for the senators in the play offs or not.
I will answer after i know who else makes the play offs.
1st pick this year will probably be Winterpeg! I am just happy that those folks have a team again.
Vancouver and Ottawa.
Any team playing the Bruins.
Any team playing the Flyers.
Paul. I could buy into this with no problem!
Hey, thanks for cheering for my homeboys. I’ll be off to their game tonight so cheer a bit more for the Habs for me, will ya?
Good luck tonight Gordon!
I live in Ottawa. Sorry cant cheer for them. I wont cheer against them iin the playoffs .. just not follow too closely. Why? I just cant stand the hype when it aint habs-hype. Spent too many years in Toronto listening to Leafs-hype.
Canadian city first.
Without a doubt, the emotional investment with Vancouver might pay larger dividends, but rooting for the underdog is always a hoot. Go Sens!
Hello all what is new? I see the terrible poll questions continue. I must say I am slightly relieved it’s about the lesser of two evils.
I’m still laughing at “Stinko for Grinko”, “Upchuck for Galneychuk”, and “Hit an Iceberg for Forsberg” from the previous thread.
I think we’re covered.
But we are still missing a slogan for Faksa, I am of no help in this matter, but enjoy the creativity of others.
how about “crapsa for Faksa”?
hehe yah that could work.
As long as he’s not from Al-Aksa.
We all know what happened to the last one we picked up from there.
Lasta for Faksa
lol, are we allowed to continually post that though?
I offered “Ka-ka for Faksa” a couple of weeks back but it didn’t hit the fan…
I like this one. But then my best years were in kindergarten.
How about…Kiss Ass for Faksa
“I figure PG has one or 2 moves left to bring the Habs that extra step closer to perhaps being the best in the league.” – Einstein
Some funny posts! Good job boys (girls).
Duno about you guys, but Im worried we beat Ottawa both games.
Ottawa plays soft, Habs play at their best VS non physical teams, look at Vancouver…
Montreal has NOTHING to lose, Id say that takes a load off your shoulders.
Price is more rested than usual and he was excellent in Vancouver.
On a side note, Cole seems to have some sort of injury, why not let him heal it and save him for next year… Would like a top 5 pick and even that looks iffy.
How in god’s name is Columbus and Edmonton so sucky!!!??? does the coach put sleeping pills in their gatorade!?
Cole wants to hit the 30 mark!
The habs really have to stop winning, the leafs, oilers and islanders are sucking too much lately..i hope the sens sweep this series
Kaberle has looked like he was expecting a baby for most of the season. Perhaps his play will improve once he give’s birth.
I wouldn’t mind losing those three games to the Sens. It would help them gain home ice advantage over the Bruins, it would help us get a better draft position, and in a small way it hurts the Leafs.
it’s the old win-win-win.
As long as the games are entertaining.
Yah but what about the loss-loss-loss?
I guess it’s lose to win.
Are we distorted…or what?
Lord Stanley is rolling over in his grave.
Not really. I don’t “want” us to lose. However if we do lose I won’t mind.
I hear you, but tonight I still cheer for the guys in the CH!
Tank tenet #1, right there
Hey Paul, I believe it was you who posted a list of hilarious acronyms at some point, no?
totally agree with you and i would go as far as to say I WANT the habs to lose, its the more intelligent thing to want. Winning won’t get us anything or anywhere at this point. Losing would get us an elite player…seems like a no brainer to me
Wow just read the old threads, that is really a shame that Markov is no longer an NHL player, so glad some were patient enough to give a guy 2 whole games back after missing essentially 2 years to make their judgements. I think I personally will enjoy watching him slowly get back back up to speed and then really enjoy watching him play as an all star next year. Too bad some people won’t get to enjoy that. Should be great.
How was your game? Where did you play?
Had a good front 9 then suffered on the back, stupid tall cans of beer playing at a course with no kitchen open! Weather was fantastic! Greens were rough. But I just ordered all new woods, I am sure once I get the new Taylor made rocket ballz woods I will finally become a scratch golfer!
Edit:@Punkster, played a local course Burlington Springs, nothing special but they give me some leeway, I played 23 holes in 4 hours 20 minutes, was sooo good to be back out again. Hope you guys get the weather soon!
I don’t know how many times I scratch my balls, but it doesn’t help my handicap one bit. I’m still mental!
I like your style, I replaced my Dr, 3w, 3–4 hibrid, 5-LW and I assume I will become a scratch golfer.
Things new clubs didn’t correct: Duck hook, low hook, dead pull. I should have paid for lessons instead!
C’mon Gerry… you know how it works by now. You’ve been at this longer than me. There has to be someone to complain about, otherwise their lives aren’t complete!
I’m surprised I haven’t read a post yet where Gomez, upon being concussed the other night, should have been shipped to a penal colony for theft and grand larceny instead of to the hospital.
We can cheer the guy and hope he does well but still wish the money were spent elsewhere, sir.
My advice is to ditch your husband tonight and go watch the game at a bar. Get some guys to buy you a few drinks and consider it compensation for all the charity work you do. (as in marrying a Sens fan)
Then when you get home make sure he knows how happy you are that we beat the Sens tonignt and there is more to come before the season is over.
Make sure to get the phone numbers of the guys who bought you the drinks and leave them on the kitchen table. You will most likely not have a problem with only one TV going forward.
I hope that as soon as the regular season is over, Mr.Molson fires Gauthier. We’ll need a new GM and coach heading to Draft day.
CH = Les Glorieux!!!
This is true, since she’ll more than likely have her own place to watch it from.
Sound advice Joey.
I’m going to go out on a limb here, and guess that you’re either still single, or recently divorced.
no worries HH I am not the sensitive type…
Wow, this place is dead.
Come the end of the year, we’ll see the tumble weeds rolling by….
Hello…hello…hello…is there anybody out there?
Weird seeing a Zep fan reference Floyd, but still a good post.
Zep isn’t the only band I like. They’re just my favourite.
Besides, who doesn’t like Floyd?
Over the hills….comfortable numb… hmmm which one.
It’s so difficult to decide which goes better with BC bud.
Love Floyd! Name of my next Bernese Mountain Dog will be Floyd, I am running out of Germanic based names.
@bri, check with Boone it should be fresh in his memory!
My first concert was Floyd at the old Autostad in ’75, where the plane crashed behind the stage.
It was the best concert I’ve ever experienced, and I’ve seen them as well as other several times since. But there was nothing like it.
EDIT: LOL on your Boone comment.
“Over the hills….comfortably numb… hmmm which one.”
Why not both?
I was at that concert as well. Was just a kid and got in free after the guards were basically forced to open the gates.
First ever concert…Alice Cooper.
I’m a Ledhed too I was lucky enough to see Page n Plant twice… once at the Montreal Forum in 1995 and once in Ontario place in 98. The outdoor Ontario Place show was intimate, there were only 2000 of us but there was limited Zep, it was the Walking into Clarksdale tour. The Forum show in Montreal was FANTASTIC. The Tea Party opened for a great set and then Page and Plant got the led out for over 3 hours!! I’m 32 now.. and was JUST lucky enough to get to see ‘em twice!
First concert: I was 16, Pink Floyd and a week later Rolling Stones, both at the Big O… and then I worked at the Bell Centre and got spoiled silly
Saw Zep in ’75 and was going to see them (with backstage passes) in ’80. But of course we all know what happened.
You work at the Bell? Do you know a cop that works there named Nadia?
TSN..really…well its the lesser of two evils..especially now that McGuire is gone…good..Mike Johnson is decent..maybe I will get lucky and he will be on..here on Bell there is a TSN Montreal channel..
I am on Rogers in the Maritimes. It is not on Sportsnet East, West or Pacific but it is on TSN ( and I don’t get the Bell channel that shows all the games )
“They don’t hang Conference Championship Banners from the rafters here”
When will they find a new gm and coach
Time to see White Darche Moen Staubitz Blunden Cunneyworth Ladouceur talk to Bourque. Like him but he’s got too much Pouliot in him. Wake up baby.
Thank you Bob Gainey. Thank you Pierre Gauthier.
It would help if he actually wanted to play for Montreal. A couple of years ago he was checking into a hotel in the Rockies. My friend was the front desk guy that greeted him, in French. After Rene said that he didn’t understand, my friend asked if he would ever consider Montreal (this was before Bourque signed his current deal). He said he would not, ever. Too crazy a place to play. I’m sure things have changed and he’ll never admit to it but it was said. I like him, but I don’t really care about whether he stays or goes. A new GM is all I want to see.
Nice to see Chara as a spokesperson for “You Can Play.”
Because after all he really is all about respect.
You can play, but if you nudge me after a goal I’ll try to kill you.
I’d take him in a minute, and so would you.
“Is the little dog going to yap, or is he going to bite?”
yes online..with headphones on..thanks…
re..Chara vs Neil..not sure which fight you were watching, but I was at the game just a few rows up..Chara just played with him..and Chara lost his footing..Neil never took him down..listen I hate Chara just as much as anyone..but keep it real..if Chara wanted to he could have pounded Neil in to no mans land..I have no doubt Staubitz can handle Neil..no problem..
i guess the Viggo would confuse some folks..however I am 100% female..I just happen to love hockey..more than just about anything..and I love my habs..I am after all a habaholic…i always think I am talking to or listening to Kirk Muller
I love Viggo too but that avatar’s look always made me think you were a pompous man. And I didn’t like the competition. So my apologies for any rudeness I used against you.
Intimidated by an avatar. Who would of thunk it?
Yours scares the shiznit outta me!!!
Burke scares a lot of people.
Not to worry, “it” just wants to have a word, or two, with you.
Uh oh. You sound like a relative, ….on my wife’s side.
I am pretty sure the game is on TSN and not being broadcast on SportsNet at all. So even though the TSN guys are not great, you don’t have to deal with Brown and Potvin.
It may be my post re Chara/Neil that you are replying to. I was not ‘at’ the game but watched it as much as I could stand on TV. It was the first game back in Ottawa for Chara with Boston (not the recent fight). And Neil did have Chara on his knees at hi smercy ad ad a punched cock ready to be delivered… but he held back. Chara patted Neil on the thighs as he rose. It was not ‘a slip’ in the tussle Chara went to ice and was at Neil’s mercy.
I remember the ‘respect’ shown between the two but Neil could have done real damage.
Aside: HH is right your avatar can scare the sh##@# . Cool!
Pretty excited to see St. Denis. We can never have too many good little defensemen.
It would be right up there with Price snubbing Chara at the AllStar picks!!!
Price didn’t really snub Chara, he already had his back turned to him walking up the stairs when Chara went to shake his hand.
Even though I would have enjoy it.
Just a thought… If Paks DOES win the Masterton he should dedicate it to Chara when accepting…. Can you imagine the reactions???? ESPECIALLY from the broadstreet Bullies!!!!
Max said he moved on from the hit, and he is altogether too classy for such a childish move.
kaberle has a baby 9 months -1 day of winning stanley cup. hmmm, lucky twice on the same day.
Staubitz vs Lucic or Thornton
No one wins, when fighting with your playmates.
one wins one day the other wins another…..those guys are all tough as nails …any one of them can win on any given day….
In a classic game of one on one shinny (Gord Bombay style, first to three posts) between Staubitz and Lucic i have to go with Lucic, seeing how Staubitz has zero goals this year. Same result with Thornton, but a closer game.
LOL, Lucik wouldn’t fight Staubitz. He only fights small guys.
And anyway, the Code™ does exist to a certain extent: goons don’t expect real players to fight them. They know they’re supposed to fight each other.
Full Breezer 4 Life
So we have to have to goons so they can fight themselves, because goons cause injuries with bad hits and such.
Staubitz wouldn’t get hurt but he’d take too many to win. Seems to be reluctant to throw unless it’s a KO attempt. Good with uppercuts though and ambidextrous. But not big enough to do well against either.
I have a question to any hio poster who live in Mtl.
How involved is Gauthier with functions etc in Montreal. Does he make appearances in behalf of the team. I know he lives in Vermont!
I think the lack of replies is a clear answer.
Either that, or HI/O members don’t attend functions themselves.
GO HABS GO! 2011-12 is probably not our year!
“Scott Gomez is an elite NHL player” – VancouverHab
Chat with me on Twitter @TheRealRGM81
He’s the ghost, he’s there you just can’t see him.
I know he cut the ribbon last July at the Grand Opening of the Vegan Barn Warehouse in Boucherville……
He shows up at team functions. Other than that, it’s tough to see the Ghost.
well here is my delema…we only have one TV as we are having our hardwood floors re done..my husband is a Sens fan..and will insist on watching those horrible homers including Potvin…someone may get hurt tonight…what should I do..I need some advise
if we are going to win anymore games for the rest of the season it MUST be these two…and I hope Staubitz pounds Neil into the ice.pretty please.
Tell him you won’t celebrate today’s holiday (March 14th is a holiday, look it up!) unless you get to watch the game on RDS.
I’m guessing you don’t mean Pi day?
Lol no. It’s a holiday created by men to take place one month after Valentine’s day.
Steak and BJ day!
It’s funny how I assume everyone on HIO is a dude. In your case, I always feel like you actually are Viggo, haha.
There was a she-type that posted “Karma is a bitch” in commenting on Letang getting concussed again.
“May you live in interesting times.”
Sens fan? Divorce!!! (KIDDING!) Watch the feed on your PC.
Would like to see Staubitz and Neil go, but only if Neil does something stupid ( I hate staged fights.)
I think Neil wins. Neil handled Chara .. had Chara down but held his punches.
Chara spun and fell, no real KO or even punching.
Bill – maybe that’s where their confidence issues come from?
Are Leafs really complaining about Phaneuf? He does not seem to play so differently then he did last season.
Their complaining is based on their belief earlier this season that he was going to win the Norris trophy. Now that the team has come back to earth and everyone is playing normally, they’re disappointed all over again.
Phaneuf is having a Komisarek type career path except with a higher past career year. I think as a sophomoron, he was one of the three Norris trophy finalists.
That’s the curse of Pierre Maguire’s “Next Big Three”……..Komisarek, Phaneuf and Beauchemin.
Remember the time when people were asking the question “who would you rather build a team around- Ovechkin, Crosby or Phaneuf”
Now that I think about it, that question is even more ridiculous with Crosby’s injuries, Ovy’s regression and Phaneuf being completely overrated and not improving since his rookie season.
Stamkos or Malkin ?
Or Price of course.
Toews hand down.
What do I know.. I leave team-building to the experts.. like PG.
Kaberle and Bourque!
OK the “Fail for Nail” campaign is on hold for one game folks. I have 3 separate $5 bets with co-workers that the Habs will be victorious against the Sens tonight. Since there’s no playoffs I had to do something to make a Habs game interesting.
Yeah my buddy bet a case of beer and he’s a big time Sens fan, I couldn’t turn it down, so here’s hoping the Habs come to play tonight.
Check this out:
Jacques Martin “head coach” of the Montreal Canadiens is holding a hockey school this summer:
“Hey Richard, two minutes for looking so good!”
“OK, kids. Everybody do what Darche does.”
“OK kids, none of you is good enough to go to my school; I researched it.”
OK kids. Today we practice scribbling on a note pad, jamming our hands FIRMLY into our pockets and looking up at the clock.
You forgot making the pouty face!
Pouty-face lessons are reserved for my elite students only – at an additional cost.
That is it completely right, the Montreal Canadiens are playing for pride tonight against the Ottawa Senators. Wow, surprising victories over Edmon & Van and a last second surge to force OT against Buff. Buff did have more @ stake but the Habs have shown glimpses of a spark but it is not great strength but still the team, management and the GM need changes as they are all a work in progress. GO HABS GO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Saw Stamkos 50th goal on Turco it looked like the 80s revisited……lol
I thought that too. There’s a reason Turco went untouched through waivers
I’ve got an extra ticket (white, row 3, section 323) for tonight. Anyone interested? I’m selling under face value.
When reddit fails, try HIO?
Yup. I had someone lined up for it, but something came up, so I’m really stuck between a rock and a hard place here.
Probably discussed yesterday if so sorry.
RE: Radulov. If he was under contract and skipped he should not have to go thru waivers HOWEVER he should not be able to play this year.
If Columbus had him signed and HE decided to play in the KHL then why should any other team have a claim on him??
to paraphrase Nixon: If the Bruins do it, it is not illegal
I honestly think it’s on the team. He’s still under contract with them for his last year.. and he can get that completed by playing the last couple of games, then RFA status.. a win-win for the player and team.
Of course other GMs aren’t happy, but mainly because they don’t have a great player in the KHL. But, I don’t see much wrong with it. So what if player bails on a team and bolts to the KHL and is then invited back? I’m not going to bother with the team or player involved, that’s not the point. He was under contract, left, was invited back and will complete that contract.
Yes, he has a chance to make some big coin in the off season. And for the Preds, it shows to their pending UFA and RFA players that they are serious about this cup run and their future. Radulov, as an asset, is way better in the NHL. Win-win for both sides.
The two-line offsides and “ringette” discussion seems to come down to either people wanting to see 100 foot passes up and down the ice, or, people wanting to see players forced to skate the puck up and down the ice.
Personally, I’d rather see players advancing the puck by skating, rather than whacking it back and forth the length of the ice.
The game now is often a defenseman slapping the puck out of his own end, toward a teammate stationed at the red line on the boards, that player either lets it go through, or assists the puck along by dumping down into the corner, and then the chase for the puck begins.
Although that is a “faster” game, I much rather see end to end rushes, and having players who can actually carry the puck around other players.
I think reintroducing will not solve the problem to head hits in the neutral zone.
Lets face it, most of those hits come from suicide passes that dmen jump up and nail a vulnerable player. The red line will literally give the dman the exact spot the player is going to be when he gets the pass or at least limit the area the dman has to be concerned about.
Here’s a question, and I know it will sound crazy at first, but really think about it: What if they got rid of offsides?
This would completely open the ice up, change strategy, allow forwards a chance to get away from those big hits, and add more speed to the game.
It would get rid of the trap too.
… end to end rushes, and players who can actually carry the puck around other players…
Love to see some of that one of these days.
What are the odds of Toronto giving up a ton to get Nash this summer?
Even odds. Burke is desperate.
Completely non-hockey related, and maybe even inappropriate, but, good on Huntingdon!
+1, Love Huntingdon.
I’ve only been there a couple times myself, but, how they’re sticking it to the corrupt communist Quebec Government is awesome.
Pierre Gauthier and Bryan Murray have a bet going tonight:
If the habs win (in the offseason): Mark Stone to the habs for a 2nd round pick.
If Ottawa wins (in the offseason): Mark Stone to the habs for a 2nd and a 3rd round pick.
Either way the habs win. Please?
“Let’s be clear on the facts…”
Mike Boone might want to brush up on this guy because he’ll be in the line-up for Ottawa tonight.
Never heard of him? Get in line!
Ha, I HAVE heard of him, I watched him play junior hockey in the WHL many times.
Good to see him get some NHL action after all these years.
Bet Boone calls him Colonel.
So they’ve called up St-Denis.
So that’s it for call ups, then.
4 out of the allowed 4.
I hope the entire team doesn’t get the flu.
Of there’ll be a small bench to work from.
Heavens, we might lose a game!
“The ’76 and ’86 teams partied way more than ’08-’09.” – Melnick
“Yeah but they WON!” – McLean
Double shift all the skaters!
You are still allowed emergency call ups. If a player is hurt or sick.
This might (?) qualify as Kaberle is a defenceman and they are calling up St-Denis. (I’m not sure if being with your partner qualifies)
If the whole team gets the flu, we can barf-in-the-pail for Nail! Upchuck for Galchenyuk!
Okay, time for Installment Three of:
March 1, 2011
(with apologies to W.H. Auden)
Faces lit by online forums
Cling to their average day:
The server must never crash,
The videos must always play,
All the conventions conspire
To make this site assume
The furniture of the home-team;
Lest we should see where we are,
Lost in a troll-filled wood,
Posters afraid of the night
And a team that’s not been happy or good.
The windiest militant trash
Important Posters shout
Is not so crude as our wish:
What mad Boone wrote
Is true of the normal heart;
Oh the error bred in BG’s deal
Now each Tanker and each fan
Craves what it cannot have,
Not AHL for G-Love
But a playoff run’s zeal.
**More to come!!**
I’ve been saaaaved!!
—Hope Springs Eternal—
Lives up to all my lofty expectations! Post it complete!!
Now I see where all the Montreal Canadiens’ productivity went – To the bedroom. We’ve got a bunch of fertile men playing in this team. At least we’re good at something.
Haha, now if our men are “fertile”, then we may have identified the larger problem: they must be women
Then again, there are not many Habs who deserve to be called potent, in my view.
Given the number of nights they are away from home I would not presume that the rash of pregnancies is explainable only by the players’ fertility.
Kaberles Wife: “We can have a baby if you win the Stanley Cup” (As if!.. muhahahahah!)
*Kaberle Traded to Boston*
Is the NHL getting stupider?
Winnipeg staying in the Southeast Division next year, sheer brilliance!
A ringuette line???
Keeping the trapezoid?
Jack Edwards is a clam, Bruins are pukes.
They missed the boat on enlarging the ice surface, so I’d like to see some radical thinking to open things up: take out ALL of the lines.
Being a Hab fan is like buying real estate: only over the long-haul will you appreciate the true value of your investment.
Don’t agree with eliminating lines but enlarging the ice surface is 10 yrs overdue. The players get bigger every year. Except here that is.
“The ’76 and ’86 teams partied way more than ’08-’09.” – Mitch Melnick
“Yeah but they WON!” – McLean
You can blame Donald Fehr and the NHLPA for that.
The owners had a re-alignment planned, but the players put the kibosh to it.
Re-alignment’s okay but the revised playoff format is flawed.
Agreed, but the NHLPA had time to voice their complaints and try for a compromise (Conference winners are seeded 1-4, 5-16 seeds awarded for points overall regardless of conference. Would have solved the different sized conferences and allowed any two teams to play for the Cup).
Instead they waited till the last second and vetoed it.
Yes, but I suspect that it will be included in the new CBA. I’m sure the NHLPA will try to up the cap ceiling by 2-3% in return for re-alignment.
Why did the NHLPA hire a baseball guy to do their negotiating?
Have you seen what some MLB players make?!
True, but what does he know about hockey?
i think the players should have no say in the matter of realignment,to my knowledge the owners own teams not the players
the habs have 24 cups I have 24 beers
Congrats on the new addition, Tomas! We’ll rag on you some other day.
Yeah – you get a break.. today.
He’s a lover not a fighter.
Who says Kaberle only scores on the power-play?
There is no such thing as a clean hit to the head
The NHL should treat head shots the way the IIHF does. Any hit to the head, whether intentional or accidental is illegal. According to the IIHF there are No clean hits to the head.
This is how things should be dealt with at the NHL level. The NHL is a bush league run by hypocrites and lawyers. Sorry for the redundancy there.
Fighting as well should be abolished. No instigator penalty. Just give game misconducts to the fighters.
The NHL already goes this route with high sticks, so why can’t they also apply it to contact with the head?
I disagree with that statement.
There are some hits, that while they do make contact with the head, are perfectly clean hits. See most of Kronwall’s hits, like the one on Voracek.
If a winger received a pass and starts to skate up ice with his head down, the defenseman should have every right to lay him out. If a player steps into another player, and does not throw an elbow, or leave his feet, does not target the head and hits him square, it should be a legal hit.
So if you are lost in thought and step off the curb without looking, that somehow makes it OK if I run you over?
If I’m carrying the puck on a hockey rink, then yes.
But nice comparable though.
I don’t think “OK” is appropriate here. The driver should not be at fault if you are moronic enough to haphazardly step into traffic. That’s what signals and crosswalks are for. Boston – the land of Jaywalkers.
Head down = crushing hit. Head in the clouds = crushing hit.
Born and Bred in Enemy Territory (Boston).
The idea is to separate the player from the puck, not to separate the player’s head from his body. Rick Green was expert at gauging exactly how to do this and then executing it.
The “his head was down” excuse is ignorant. As Carbonneau rightly pointed out a couple seasons ago, (I am para-phrasing here) “Players need to know where the puck is in relation to where they are on the ice. The puck is on ice 99% of the time. The players are looking at it. In other words, their heads are down 99% of the time.”
Carbo’s comment applies to everyone who does not have the puck… If you do not have the puck, you shouldn’t be hit.
Yes, the main goal of contact hockey is supposed to be to separate the player from the puck, but if you’ve ever played competitive hockey, you know that it goes much beyond that.
Let’s forget cleanliness and think about brain safety.
Any hit to the head can cause brain damage.
Hypocrites AND lawyers? LOL
Waaaaay better than the Markov troll on the other thread…and as you know I agree with your head hit statement. It would help if the idiots who officiate the games and those they report to would actually apply the rules as is, for a start. Next, ramp up the penalties, suspensions and fines until the message gets through to the players. And modify the equipment to make accidental hits less severe, if possible.
As for the fighting comment I believe it’s a separate discussion, far more complex and goes to the roots of the game. Another day.
I agree about the fighting comment. Too complex an issue.
However the head shot one is clear cut. As Chuck states, “The NHL already goes this route with high sticks…”
Same for the puck over the glass.
NHL is impotent in the face of doing the right thing.
As for Markov, the issue is not settled. He looks shaky at best and a shadow of his former self. I know it’s early but I have serious doubts about his ever being a top pairing D man again.
Both of these ideas make too much sense for the NHL.
Also, if they were adopted,, then we’d see Shanahan doing videos explaining how he’s not really sure Lucik’s elbow actually hit the players head, or just his upper shoulder (video inconclusive).
OK so I’m just coming back from a week in Punta Cana (Majestic Colonial….very very nice…but I digress) and I come back to see Markov playing. Can someone rationalize for me the need to play him this year when he’s already on contract for next year?? If he gets injured: STOOPID. If he doesn’t get injured, it doesn’t mean he won’t be getting injured next year.
My pet theory is that the Habs are hoping that the team will get a bump in wins from Markov so they can claim that injuries did them in this year. I think they are doing this because they have no plans to fire Gauthier and this would give them a reason not to.
Walk me off the ledge please.
**DISCLAIMER: I am NOT a real pirate despite having been blown ashore many times.**
It’s simple, Habs management has to know how well Markov can perform, to make good decisions this summer with the free agent market. There’s also Markov’s desire to play.
As for your theory, well I’d say it’s more speculation than anything.
Markov is trying to get up to game shape playing against guys already there – I think he has a higher chance of injury because of that and what he does this year won’t tell the team anything in my opinion. Look at his last game where he apparently had difficulty. Is this due to his injury or due to the fact that he isn’t in game shape?
He has to play now, I think if he has to get injured, might as well be now in a meaningless season.
If he plays well this year, that says the Habs don’t need to look for a replacement, if he cannot play well, they have a great issue on D they need to resolve.
I think his issue is not so much game shape, as it is getting reaccustomed to the speed and intensity of the game, compared to the practices he has been doing for so long now.
But what tells you that he won’t get a knee injury in the first game next year, even if he doesn’t get injured this year?
Nothing, but that’s the same for any player, may as well not play Pac, Cole, Price and Subban in case they get hurt!
But that is my point: it doesn’t tell them anything about how he’ll perform next year so that reason to play him is stupid when he hasn’t reached game speed/shape yet. If he starts next year, he’ll be playing against guys who aren’t there either after training camp so less risk of injury to me. If it takes him 7-8 games to get in shape, they’ll have a 4 game sample to see what he can do…..not much of a sample size.
Ok, I don’t think you are getting what I’m saying but that’s fine, I’ll shelve that argument.
Markov wants to play, he is a hockey player, he got the clearance from the doctors to play, so he gets to play.
Simple as that.
He’ll be ready to play next year too. And guys won’t have a game speed advantage on him after pre-season.
Ahab, I think that ‘ready’ means ‘ready’.
If, as HH pointed out incorrectly, he is one shift away from a career ending injury (paraphrase), then shoudn’t we get that shift over and done with before we have to look at signing players over the summer?
If Markov is ready now, he won’t be ‘more’ ready in October.
Never said he was one shift away from a career-ending injury myself…my entire point is that playing him this year accomplishes nothing (because you’re unlikely to be really able to base decisions on what he does or doesn’t do over a small sample of games) and that playing him now simply puts him at more of a risk than if he started right out of the gate playing against a bunch of guys not a game speed either.
Markov has to try it out when he’s ready. Guess what?
Who IS Habs management now? or June 1?
Or maybe they just want to evaluate his play and see if he has anything left in him? If not they may have to deal with him in the off season.
They may have to buy out Gomez next year. Do you think Molson will want to buy out Markov too if he has trouble? How about Kaberle?
If he weren’t under contract, I could totally see them do it to try to get some sense of what he could do. But in the present situation, I don’t see the use and absolutely think it puts him more at risk of injury.
Let`s say Markov either get hurt again and is put permanently on IR list or it turns out that he`s not able to play effective minutes as a top line defenseman anymore. Whoever the gm of the team is at that point will see a big glaring hole in our lineup and will need to adress it. He can then have a better view of how to manage the huge amount of money that gets freed up from having Gomez off the roster.
But if he struggles with few sample games he plays this year, will it be due to the injury or to the simple fact that he hasn’t reached game speed yet?
It’s not like they rushed him back in or anything…..
Not saying they did but why play him now when it means nothing?
Because he is ready to go.
There is no point in sidelining him either, he is a hockey player, that is his bread and butter. Keeping him out of the lineup for the remainder of the season is a huge slap in the face to him from the organization.
A slap in the face from an organization that’s been paying him to rehab for most of the last two years? Is he going to forego the rest of his contract if he gets reinjured out of respect for the organization? If they allow him to play for Russia, I’ll be livid.
I really believe Markov wants to find out for himself how it feels in game conditions, so he doesn’t have to think about it all summer.
Tomas having a baby exactly 9 months after the Stanley Cup.
This certainly was the season for new babies.
Haha… They had a reason to celebrate!
Hockey player baby boom.
Congrats to BFA St Albans Vt- John Leclair’s old high school- on winning the Div 1 stae champioship last night. Their 16th championship in 39 years. The Montreal Canadiens of Vt hockey.
Let’s hope that Tomas Giveaway takes full paternity leave … I don’t want to see him on the ice with a CH jersey again!
Better stop watching the Habs for 2 more years then.
Kab ranks 6th on the team for most giveaways with just one more than the great Josh Gorges.
Subban leads with almost double the amount of Kaberle.
Don’t let facts spoil your drive-by smear.
“It’s just an opinion – I could be wrong”
Subban also plays twice as many even strength + short-handed minutes as Kaberle does, and against tougher competition.
Subban’s gvieaways are as bad proportionally.
My point was Kaberle’s giveaway offenses are no worse than lots of others.
Why the smear?
“It’s just an opinion – I could be wrong”
If you need to know why Shanny doled out the punishment to Myers, look at the standings in the east. If his best friend gets into the playoffs, they have to pass Buffalo to do it.
Or you know, an illegal hit that results in a concussion should be punished, that makes sense too.
It did not seem to matter when Malone hit Campoli at the beginning of the season. What team did that benefit?
My mistake, Malone, not Moore…
Oh I did not know Campoli was concussed.
Your tinfoil hat is affecting your memory …it was Malone.
Get over it.
Shamahan strikes again.
I think it might be a good idea to play Leblanc wil Plekanec, in White’s place, Leblanc has more scoring talent, and could benefit more from playing with a player of Plekanec’s skill.
Hope St-Denis gets a chance to play, I liked what I saw from him in training camp.
From what I’ve seen of White, he’s pretty fast and certainly not afraid to battle in the corners. he may turn out to be a decent 3-4th liner
Can’t wait to see the game either…..half a day to work and then beer and hockey time
Nothing would make me happier tonight than seeing Karlsson try to go on one of his rushes up the left wing and end up getting absolutely demolished by a PK hit. Brad Marchand style.
Why??? Karlsson is a great clean player that bring excitement to the game. I want PK to save those hits for Marchand again, any other Bruin, Mike Richards, Lupul, or Zach Bogosian.
How much is he paying you?
I sure hope they don’t rush Scotty’s return.
Like they should wait at-least 2 years.
Oh at least. Minimum. Better safe than sorry etc…
We all have our gripes with Gomez as a player, but one need not be on his payroll to wish him a quick recovery from this concussion.
I am thinking you meant to post this somewhere else?
We should all make a better effort to make honest, fair critiques instead of ignorant invective. For my part, I will stop “hating” on Gomez and Bourque
Now all of a sudden you want World Peace, fine…..
Gomez has a concussion, didn’t realize he had a brain until that…ahhhhh
Kiss my hAbSS!!!
He has been, err, less than ideally effective since coming to Montreal.
not hating but think about your comment a second time.
ahhhh I get it, sorry context is tough for me sometimes. Yes I agree with you!
You probably never saw Dale Hunter play …
Well, in my mind, it hasn’t been sporting to dump on Gomez since the second-last injury. It’s just gotten sad, haha.
4 feet from your net yes. not off someone walking in over the line. that puck has too many places to go, the open space between the posts and the goalie are not one, not from there.
as for getting in the face, sure, it happens. rarely. even if it does, they still come back after a couple of shifts or next game at the least.
Price now 5-7 in shoot outs. i think he’s won his last 3 s/o’s. I think DD has scored in all 3 or in 2 of the 3.
Wonder if Dude will crawl out from under the bridge later tonight?
No Guts No Glory
Awwwwwww, Habs won. Quel dommage!
We’re going to get a good prospect regardless!
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