3-3 going into the third period.
Visitors score early.
Crowd totally deflated and bummed out.
Happened against the Flyers.
Happened against the Devils.
Déja poo at the Bell Centre.
Is there time to make it back and win the cup? Yes, the habs can do that if they get rid of the small tykes Gomez and Gionta. Desharnais at least plays hard and he gets support from the bigger line, which Gomez does not. If you are gonna sign small, at least sign players which the team will support. So far the habs have only shown lip service to Gomez. They overpaid him and left him to be eaten alive in the new NHL which does not like small players like Gomez. The NHL does not follow what it says publicly, sure Shamaham is their politically correct guy, but really, supporting goon hockey like Charra kind of showed us that the NHL is not about nice hockey, never was, never will be. The rest of the owners want fights, checks, hard hockey. The habs don’t believe in that. Until they do, we will never see a cup in Montreal.
Why? WHY? is Darch still getting more minutes than Cammy, Kost, DD, Pac, LL, Cole and Eller? 3 pts in 32 games? -4? Does he have video tape? This guy should be in Hamilton full time for anyone else? Blunden, Palusjah? AND Why? WHY must the next “full time coach and GM speak French? Isn’t this DISCIMINATION to all others? Maybe if the polititians and contractors spoke FRENCH, Quebec roads and bridges would not be falling apart! Like this team!
The 6 game road trip could be a blessing for this team and should give us an indication where this team is headed. If after the road trip it’s same old, ride this wreck until the deadline & just unload as much as possible. We need to give RC a fair shake.
Cammalleri should be “canned” next. He is Gomez while Gomez is on IR. And at the very least Gomer has perfected the act of appearing to be trying. Cammalleri doesn’t even bother to look interested in the game. What a scumbag.
Interesting, how while Martin was there I was still clinging to a hope that we might make playoffs. After tonight’s game I am 100% convinced we will not. Nothing against RC. I am not even going to judge him (yet)… but this team is crap. There are too many floaters. Those that aren’t require a lot of work which won’t be done in time to right this sinking ship.
Bobo built this disaster. His banner should be stripped off the Bell center rafters.
I have been watching the Habs since 1961, for 50 years. Boys, the season is over. This team is just not any good. We will play just around 500 hockey the rest of the year, then Gauthier will be fired, Randy C will be shown the door, Gomez will be buried in the minors and we rebuild. On a night when the team should have been pumped we got out played at home (again) blew the game in the thrid period (again) and that is basically all she wrote. The Fat Lady is signing. Play the kids, be a seller at the trading deadline and look towards the future
Poluliot is tied for 3rd in the league with 4 GWGs! He’s also tied for 354th in the league with 7 points in 26 games. He also learned how to tie his own skates last week.
One of those 3 statements may have been embellished.
We really should have signed him. I mean, we should have known that his consistently poor performance during his tenure with the Habs would one day lead to him scoring the winning goal 27 seconds into a 6-0 game while playing on a team that just won the Stanley Cup without him. How could we ever let him go?
Do people actually think that Cunneyworth was going to walk into the room a couple hours before the game and just describe to the team how he wants them to play the game and then they would just go out and flawlessly execute it? If Cunneyworth took that approach then, yes, he’s and idiot and should be fired. Since he was an assistant under the previous coach, a more likely scenario is that he will slowly institute the changes he wishes to see over at least the next few weeks of practice. This isn’t a video game where you just go into the settings and pick a new forecheck, d-coverage, PP, PK, etc. from one of the 3 or 4 canned selections and then your team goes and does it. Players develop habits, have tendencies, and emotions about going through change, etc. The first changes you will probably see (already saw) are in his bench management (lines, ice-time, etc.) and then hopefully we will see the team progress into whatever system (lower-case s) he preaches and teaches in practice. Looking forward to seeing where he takes them.
If the management culture or the mindspeak as we say, encourages a game of softness, what the hell can Cunneyworth do? The habs have gone away from their tradtional fast play and have instead become or is trying to be the showcase for wimpy hockey. I know there is too much violence in sports, but honestly, when we see Gomez splattered on the boards time after time, include Gionta, then you know they are not being protected or defended. Which pro hockey player wants to put his butt on the line to protect a lazy highly paid player like Gomez? What can the coach do? His hands are tied, Martin tried using the five on five which doesn’t work. Now we hope Cunneyworth can help Subban come out again, to be the Subban we all loved when he first started and not the headcase that Subban has become under Martin, and you might as well add half the rookies include the Kosty bro.s……what Andrei said must have been true after all.
Let’s be honest here.
This is not a Cup team.
They will not make the playoffs.
Too many injuries.
Not the players to play the trap.
JM after 25 yrs coaching his style was very tired. Never won anything anyway and didn’t have the players to go all the way in Mtl injuries or not. No risk, no creativity. He’s gone.
Gauthier made the right move even though RC is anglo.
RC made a good move not playing Camm on the PK.
He didn’t over play his top players.
Eller and Leblanc got more time.
Subban and Georges played normal amounts for a change.
On short notice, he made some good moves.
If he take us to the playoffs, I’ll eat my words.
Nice Eller got 18 minutes of ice time, more than DD. I think he can thrive with more ice time. I’m not going to say I think he’s a star, but I think I see potential for him to be a pretty well rounded 2nd liner.
Habs stunk, but maybe they need a couple of practices with the new changes RC is gong to implement
You can never tell how a team is going to react to such a change. I’m sure “Le system” is so ingrained that it will take time.
Habs are sort of “institutionalized”, like prisoners who upon release are terrified of freedom (to enter the offensive zone).
No worries. I am drinking a special wine tonight — an 09 RED Meursault (I know, it doesn’t exist) trust me, it exists, quite lovely. My guy only has one case).
Somewhere Bob Gainey is drinking a lite beer and thinking: this is my report card. Gomez: F, Cammi: B, Gionta: C, Martin: F, Laraque F*with an explanation (I can’t blame Bob G for not being psychic and not seeing that Laraque would go all vegan on him).
I honour Gainey A+ as a player, and his draft heritage may well redeem him somewhat, but for now… that’s the score card.
I am at peace. Habs can be regenerated into a hockey team.
Perfect, I was just looking for the word “institutionalized” to use in my next post. It was on the tip of my tongue. Now I think I need to go watch Shawshank Redemption.
In a few days, Gainey threw together a team that wasn’t expected to make the playoffs yet went to the Stanley Cup semi-finals for the first time in sixteen years (2009) and then came closer to defeating the eventual Stanley Cup champions than any of their subsequent opponents (2010).
It is too bad Gainey was a victim of the times in the NHL board of Gov.s who were on a wimpy hockey kick that the Habs bought hook line and sinker. While the nhl gov.s spoke soft and said they would bring niceness back to hockey, some of the NHL gov.s owners were hypocrites drafting and signing goons. Then the gov.s changed the rules to allow crashing the net and concussions have sought through the roof as the NHL while it says it is bringing niceness to the game, is playing goon hockey.
Martin and Gauthier and Gainey should have known better.
Sign the big boys guys, the NHL is a big hockey league. Small smurfs have no place in Montreal.
“Le system” has it’s place if it is populated with players who are committed to it and appropriate for it. For teams without skill guys, it can work. The problems arise when you have offensive players and constrain their abilities too much.
On paper, Kovalchuk and Coco Lemaire are a train wreck, but Lemaire was no idiot — he knew what he had. Martin, sadly, either not as smart or secure as Lemaire to take advantage of Cammi or Kostitsyn.
Show me that “skill”. I don’t remember last time I saw Cammi’s, Plek’s, Gio’s or Gomer’s skills… other than collecting fat paycheck without doing anything for it. That’s what I call skill.
Yeah the 3rd period collapse was bad, but there were some positives I take from this… Most notably is the fact that Cunnyworth had less than a day to prepare as head coach.. I don’t see that in your liveblog and I don’t think we will see that in your ABOUT LAST NIGHT piece either….
Shame, because between you HIO boys, and the FRENCH only Coach needed RDS, I have had it up to here with your vile filth writing.
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I agree, PK played like the old PK we knew. Give Cunny time to fix the mess Martin has made with these poor rookies’ heads. Gainey began that. Molson and boys in the Habs management, time to start supporting your talented rookies like Subban!
Another stunning move to save PG. If JM was not the right person for the job, then why did they allow two of the best replacement candidates to leave the organization?
How could a man who won 600 games in the leauge not play the guys the GM signed in the off season? Didn’t JM know that Cole needs more minutes than Darche?
Same story as usual, this team is not going to score more than three goals. So Price has to let in two or less. Once the other team scores four, the game is over.
You have to think that all these moves – Campoli, Kaberle, Pearn, JM all come down to PG miscalculating on Markov’s knee.
Blue, blanc et rouge. Red and White for Canada. Blue for Smurfs.
What’s the old saw? About the nail in the horse’s shoe by which the battle is lost?
That said, maybe Markov’s knee is a blessing in disguise. Markov would have made this team look better than it is, and better than it’s coach was. Now the bride is stripped bare.
Can you imagine if the new coach opens things up offensively, and we actually do get Markov back in the new year.
Lets hope Cunny doesn’t adopt a style of play that hinders the talents of shooters. PK needs space boys. He needs to be PK Subban. Cole needs to do what Cole does best, crash the net. This is the crash the net NHL for those of you who actually listen to Gary Bettman. The Habs have been thinking it is not. Well it is and the habs have to sign more players like Cole.
Halak isn’t even a starting goalie. He and Elliott play as a tandem. Price has started 13 games more than Halak, facing and stopping over twice as many shots. Halak’s save percentage is 90.6% and Price’s is 91.5%. Halak’s win percentage is 31.25% while Price’s is 41.38%
But nice try isolating one statistic to make a completely misleading and frankly, dishonest point. There is no statistical evidence thus far that keeping Price was not the correct move.
I’m starting to wonder if the reason the Habs players are always sucking air, and plain old sucking in the third, is because they are just not in shape enough to compete for 60 minutes..? I remember when people used to make fun of the Sens for doing interviews after the game in the workout room on the bikes, but there was a good reason for that, to play 60 minutes of hard hockey you have to be in damn good shape.
This organization is heading south! They should have kept Martin till seasons end. They should have fired Gauthier, he is has been and very fake at that! Martin would have kept the media in check, now we got an anglo (not his fault) running the team and poor guy will get run out of town and have a nervous break down at that. All this team needs now. they have young players that need to develop without adversity. What a circus, bet you Cole will be the last free agent of quality we will sign here for the next 5 years at the very least.
I think moving from The Forum might have had something to do with it as well. Maybe they would have been better off doing what the Rangers did and just gut and refurbish the old barn? The ghosts passed on going to the Molson Center.
As for the third, I think its the worst period I watched the habs play in years. Except the Kostitsyn’s deke, nothing happen.
They were trying stretch passes after stretch passes. He’ll have a rough night and don’t want to hit on the guy, but Cunneyworth should have done something to stop this mess. Reduce the space between D and fowards, fowards play closer, short passes…
Well, the Radio City Rocketts are not the usual entertainment I favor on a Saturday night in December, but it’s better than pissing away my valuable time watching the abject suckitude that is the Montreal Canadiens!
i got nothing better to do haha my time is not nearly as valuable :p
EDIT: usually i just type out my snide response and then hit cancel and pretend I hit submit and everyone wins … for some reason I went for it this time … back to plan A next time
15 minute players-only meeting after the game. Ohh if only HBO 24/7 cameras were in the building tonight…
I should think that some guys are getting some serious strips torn off them for not performing. Eller has had some of his media scrum quotes posted on Twitter already and he sounds just livid. He cares.
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Gill and Campoli – didn’t work.
AK-Pleks-Cams – didn’t work.
Their only good spots were on individual efforts.
Realistically there’s only on line working on this team. There’s zero stability and little cohesion. And too many errors from the guys logging the most minutes. Things don’t look too good for this team…
I am really worried for Randy Cunneyworth. Not because of his ability or anything. I can just imagine him having to face the press tonight… especially the french press.
Man he’s in for a tough ride. PG should be at the presser with Randy.. and in fact so should Geoff and maybe even a player or two and an alumni.. preferably french.
The players on thi steam needs to see management having each other’s back right now.
Okay, so we can put to rest a couple of theories. 1) The players had quit on JM. 2) The system was stifling out talented players. In fact we find out that: 1) the players haven’t quit at all, they just didn’t have any heart to begin with, and 2) we don’t have any talented players. Normally I’m more of a glass-half-empty guy, I’ll admit it. Tonight I’m more of a glass-completely-empty guy. The only way out of this mess, I’m increasingly convinced, is to go the tank route. I just hope Gauthier is gone before trade deadline this year. Just don’t trust him to get good return.
you watch price will run away from this team next year . It’s sux watching my fav team like this.This is mainly management failures…. Thank god for the cole pac and dd line. If not for those guys what would this team be…
I guess the Habs don’t get that 5 game bump. A decent 2nd period and watch Cole be suspended for 3 to 5 games.
Price not huge tonight, but can’t fault him on all the goals.
One of the things most of us expected was the 4th line getting minutes. Didn’t happen. I expected a furious forecheck. Didn’t happen. I expected less dump-ins and more offensive zone passing. Didn’t happen.
At least the Habs got a PP goal, not that it mattered a lot in the end.
The shock the players received this morning did not spark them. It made them uncertain and shaky. It was reflected in their play save for a few brief moments.
Fire RC!
lol,no doubt. A terrible campoli giveaway and an awful line change by pk which led to the clarkson goal in the 2nd is a good place to start if blame needs to be handed out.
I hope, for his sake, that RC isn’t pressured to do anything but what he feels is best for the team. If not, we’ll all be nostalgic for JM sooner than we would like to admit.
Decision was the right one…the timing sucked…good move to distract the players right before a crucial game…nevermind not giving the new coach time to gather his thought and strategies ..Mtl management threw two points away … At least Anaheim waited tillAFTER a game to make a change… And still can’t get my mind around the two mil payout….
I think you may have someone else in mind. I certainly have made critical comments about Martin, but I did not fixate on that like you are erroneously claiming.
Prove it by reviewing my past posts and provide some evidence, or shut the hell up.
Have to admit that I was wrong on this one. I went back and read many of your posts and you have not been as critical of Martin as I thought.
Instead I found about 50 posts of every kind of insult you can imagine against Cammallerri & Gomez and in general about 90% of your post are bellyaching, but not so much against Martin, so I apologize.
I’m not saying Price is the reason we lost tonight…and some of those goals he had no chance on. But let’s be honest here…Carey Price hasn’t been stellar this season. Before tonight’s game his sv% was ranked 17th in the league.
Too bad the team in front of him can’t protect a 2- or 3-goal lead. They don’t stop pressing the attack, the idea of a shootout is moot. Also, take a look at how many SO goals the skaters have this year. That’s not to excuse Price, he knows he can be better, but there’s more to it than just Price.
I’m mostly annoyed by the slow clearances. The D goes to the corner and remains static and waits for Pricey to pass them the puck. The puck ends up in the D’s skates, confusion ensues and the break out fails… Time and time again.
He’s very good with the puck, but his perceived nonchalance around his net (and same goes for his D partners…) causes many problems.
For 40 minutes they did alright. They’d still get killed by the Bruins or the Red Wings, but they were doing OK against a mid pack team… And that pretty much sums it up.
So here’s my theory: Pleks and Cammy are both new dads. And I know from firsthand experience that being a new dad cuts into your sleep and motivation big time.
Hmm, makes sense …so the solution would be to write into the contracts that they can’t have children.
OTOH, Roger Federer played (and continues to do so) at a very high level despite being the father of twin girls.
I know you’re being facetious. I never bought into that “New dad” crap. It was just another excuse, which the players, at least were smart enough not to offer.
I thought after the last game that Budaj should start tonight. Price has not been great in any of the games this week. Not that the loss can be blamed on him. A team that can’t maintain any offensive zone pressure and constantly breaks down defensively is not going to win too many games. As our record shows. Four victories in the last 13 games I think. How can anyone still be talking about playoffs? It’s getting harder and harder to cheer for this team.
Another display of mediocrity. I could take being a non-playoff team if we were actually rebuilding. While not making the playoffs isn’t acceptable for the Montreal Canadiens, in this league you have to be bad before you can get the right players to challenge. Let the young ones grow, while playing entertaining hockey, and get rid of the overpaid hacks for some draft picks. A young, energetic team is entertaining to watch at least, rather than the lazy and uninspired show we had tonight.
Price didn’t have a bad game, just an average one. How was he supposed to stop that 2 on 0 in the 3rd? The defense sure doesn’t help him by turning the puck over and over again.
I don’t care if this gets deleted, but those talking about the team having to be blown up. No way. One player is standing out to me for all the wrong reasons.
Mike Cammalleri. He makes dumb plays with the puck defensively and offensively, and I bet my shed would have more marks from him than me.
I know there are going to be those who will bring up his playoff success, but that does not matter IMO (you gotta make it there first), he is a waste of that much cap space. No offence, no defense.
Of course this team has to be blown up. It’s sad to watch these guys get out-hustled, out-passed, and out-played in general. Soft D, no offensive firepower, no go-to guys at all. Not a single player on this team could crack the top line of ANY other team in the league. As much as I like him, even Pleks would be a 1B on any other team. We need new leadership, that’s not afraid to put Gomez in Hamilton and use that $7.0 mil on some upgrades; not afraid to trade some of the 2rd and 3rd line players we’ve drafted over the past 5 years; not afraid to say that what we have is not good enough to win it all and therefore we will pack it in [ie. trade what we can for assets] for the year instead of dragging this out for a shot at 8th place.
This team still can’t break out of the zone… and can’t finish.
Meanwhile NJ breaks out and shoots at will against every line but the DD gang (the only one that maintains any pressure…)
NJ seems motivated to play in this building. Brodeur of course, but Sykora, Zubrus, Elias, Kovalchuk, Parise, Henrique & Clarkson played great. They completely buried their match ups as the game went on.
The lack of compete in Cammy’s game is getting ridiculous. There’s no way he can be back next year. Some playoff bound team out West will give up something for him because of his playoff rep.
Trade Cammy, send Gomez to Hamilton and the Habs cap issues become a non-factor going forward.
You can’t judge Price this year to last. Our team was so much better last year, Weber and Diaz should of been in Hamilton from the start of the season. Due to injuries they have been playing, with Campoli back in and Kabs playing they should send them back. They have no business being in the NHL. Emelin has been our only bright spot on D, Subban has been below average this season. Gorges is our best D-man, although Gill has been a great leader and good shot blocker he is slow, so you know what your getting with Gill.
Then we have the offense, Cammy has been brutal, Gio has worked hard but he isn’t scoring and then we have Gomer, what a terrible trade and we have Gainey to blame for that one.
At seasons end Gainey “will” step down and PG will be fired. That way the new GM can hire his own coach. Time to retool and start over.
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Is there time to make it back and win the cup? Yes, the habs can do that if they get rid of the small tykes Gomez and Gionta. Desharnais at least plays hard and he gets support from the bigger line, which Gomez does not. If you are gonna sign small, at least sign players which the team will support. So far the habs have only shown lip service to Gomez. They overpaid him and left him to be eaten alive in the new NHL which does not like small players like Gomez. The NHL does not follow what it says publicly, sure Shamaham is their politically correct guy, but really, supporting goon hockey like Charra kind of showed us that the NHL is not about nice hockey, never was, never will be. The rest of the owners want fights, checks, hard hockey. The habs don’t believe in that. Until they do, we will never see a cup in Montreal.
BOBO AND POGO MUST BE FIRED!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Q: Why would so many Habs want to date Natalie Wood?
A: She floats.
You’re saying they’re necropheliacs?
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Why? WHY? is Darch still getting more minutes than Cammy, Kost, DD, Pac, LL, Cole and Eller? 3 pts in 32 games? -4? Does he have video tape? This guy should be in Hamilton full time for anyone else? Blunden, Palusjah? AND Why? WHY must the next “full time coach and GM speak French? Isn’t this DISCIMINATION to all others? Maybe if the polititians and contractors spoke FRENCH, Quebec roads and bridges would not be falling apart! Like this team!
DISCIMINATION?
I’m scared that PK & Price will leave us and not be an integral part of the 10 year rebuilding plan
The 6 game road trip could be a blessing for this team and should give us an indication where this team is headed. If after the road trip it’s same old, ride this wreck until the deadline & just unload as much as possible. We need to give RC a fair shake.
“Hate the Ole song like a sickness”
I think it is pretty clear that unloading is what needs to happen. This season is a wash.
Cammalleri should be “canned” next. He is Gomez while Gomez is on IR. And at the very least Gomer has perfected the act of appearing to be trying. Cammalleri doesn’t even bother to look interested in the game. What a scumbag.
Interesting, how while Martin was there I was still clinging to a hope that we might make playoffs. After tonight’s game I am 100% convinced we will not. Nothing against RC. I am not even going to judge him (yet)… but this team is crap. There are too many floaters. Those that aren’t require a lot of work which won’t be done in time to right this sinking ship.
Bobo built this disaster. His banner should be stripped off the Bell center rafters.
i agree Bobo and PoGo are the architechs of this mess, both gotta go
Gotta give these guys a break. It’ll take them a while to adjust to implementing the forward pass.
Maybe next year. This season is over.
I have been watching the Habs since 1961, for 50 years. Boys, the season is over. This team is just not any good. We will play just around 500 hockey the rest of the year, then Gauthier will be fired, Randy C will be shown the door, Gomez will be buried in the minors and we rebuild. On a night when the team should have been pumped we got out played at home (again) blew the game in the thrid period (again) and that is basically all she wrote. The Fat Lady is signing. Play the kids, be a seller at the trading deadline and look towards the future
Or we could give Randy a chance to see what he can do first.
Well, those things are not contradictory. Randy California has a couple of months to re-org.
What position does the Fat Lady pay and how much are we paying her? Strange name for a hockey player.
Benoit Pouliot scores 27 seconds into the game for the winning goal as the Boston Bruins never look back and trounce the Philadelphia Flyers 6-0.
uhhh ya, scoring the winning goal in a 6-0 game means squat dude…
Poluliot is tied for 3rd in the league with 4 GWGs! He’s also tied for 354th in the league with 7 points in 26 games. He also learned how to tie his own skates last week.
One of those 3 statements may have been embellished.
We really should have signed him. I mean, we should have known that his consistently poor performance during his tenure with the Habs would one day lead to him scoring the winning goal 27 seconds into a 6-0 game while playing on a team that just won the Stanley Cup without him. How could we ever let him go?
Do people actually think that Cunneyworth was going to walk into the room a couple hours before the game and just describe to the team how he wants them to play the game and then they would just go out and flawlessly execute it? If Cunneyworth took that approach then, yes, he’s and idiot and should be fired. Since he was an assistant under the previous coach, a more likely scenario is that he will slowly institute the changes he wishes to see over at least the next few weeks of practice. This isn’t a video game where you just go into the settings and pick a new forecheck, d-coverage, PP, PK, etc. from one of the 3 or 4 canned selections and then your team goes and does it. Players develop habits, have tendencies, and emotions about going through change, etc. The first changes you will probably see (already saw) are in his bench management (lines, ice-time, etc.) and then hopefully we will see the team progress into whatever system (lower-case s) he preaches and teaches in practice. Looking forward to seeing where he takes them.
If the management culture or the mindspeak as we say, encourages a game of softness, what the hell can Cunneyworth do? The habs have gone away from their tradtional fast play and have instead become or is trying to be the showcase for wimpy hockey. I know there is too much violence in sports, but honestly, when we see Gomez splattered on the boards time after time, include Gionta, then you know they are not being protected or defended. Which pro hockey player wants to put his butt on the line to protect a lazy highly paid player like Gomez? What can the coach do? His hands are tied, Martin tried using the five on five which doesn’t work. Now we hope Cunneyworth can help Subban come out again, to be the Subban we all loved when he first started and not the headcase that Subban has become under Martin, and you might as well add half the rookies include the Kosty bro.s……what Andrei said must have been true after all.
Let’s be honest here.
This is not a Cup team.
They will not make the playoffs.
Too many injuries.
Not the players to play the trap.
JM after 25 yrs coaching his style was very tired. Never won anything anyway and didn’t have the players to go all the way in Mtl injuries or not. No risk, no creativity. He’s gone.
Gauthier made the right move even though RC is anglo.
RC made a good move not playing Camm on the PK.
He didn’t over play his top players.
Eller and Leblanc got more time.
Subban and Georges played normal amounts for a change.
On short notice, he made some good moves.
If he take us to the playoffs, I’ll eat my words.
Players only meeting shows us something.
Bruins will clean our clocks but good.
Bruins game should be interesting.
Define interesting.
Nice Eller got 18 minutes of ice time, more than DD. I think he can thrive with more ice time. I’m not going to say I think he’s a star, but I think I see potential for him to be a pretty well rounded 2nd liner.
Habs stunk, but maybe they need a couple of practices with the new changes RC is gong to implement
You can never tell how a team is going to react to such a change. I’m sure “Le system” is so ingrained that it will take time.
Habs are sort of “institutionalized”, like prisoners who upon release are terrified of freedom (to enter the offensive zone).
No worries. I am drinking a special wine tonight — an 09 RED Meursault (I know, it doesn’t exist) trust me, it exists, quite lovely. My guy only has one case).
Somewhere Bob Gainey is drinking a lite beer and thinking: this is my report card. Gomez: F, Cammi: B, Gionta: C, Martin: F, Laraque F*with an explanation (I can’t blame Bob G for not being psychic and not seeing that Laraque would go all vegan on him).
I honour Gainey A+ as a player, and his draft heritage may well redeem him somewhat, but for now… that’s the score card.
I am at peace. Habs can be regenerated into a hockey team.
Amen.
Here are the Habs in their first game with the straight jacket off.
Man this thread is just making my day haha
Perfect, I was just looking for the word “institutionalized” to use in my next post. It was on the tip of my tongue. Now I think I need to go watch Shawshank Redemption.
In a few days, Gainey threw together a team that wasn’t expected to make the playoffs yet went to the Stanley Cup semi-finals for the first time in sixteen years (2009) and then came closer to defeating the eventual Stanley Cup champions than any of their subsequent opponents (2010).
Some would reassess that report card.
Oh yeah, I forgot to mention Halak.
It is too bad Gainey was a victim of the times in the NHL board of Gov.s who were on a wimpy hockey kick that the Habs bought hook line and sinker. While the nhl gov.s spoke soft and said they would bring niceness back to hockey, some of the NHL gov.s owners were hypocrites drafting and signing goons. Then the gov.s changed the rules to allow crashing the net and concussions have sought through the roof as the NHL while it says it is bringing niceness to the game, is playing goon hockey.
Martin and Gauthier and Gainey should have known better.
Sign the big boys guys, the NHL is a big hockey league. Small smurfs have no place in Montreal.
The System is bigger than any coach that employs it. Don’t be mistaken. It will rise like Christ from the dead!
“Le system” has it’s place if it is populated with players who are committed to it and appropriate for it. For teams without skill guys, it can work. The problems arise when you have offensive players and constrain their abilities too much.
On paper, Kovalchuk and Coco Lemaire are a train wreck, but Lemaire was no idiot — he knew what he had. Martin, sadly, either not as smart or secure as Lemaire to take advantage of Cammi or Kostitsyn.
And so we beat on, goats against the current….
Show me that “skill”. I don’t remember last time I saw Cammi’s, Plek’s, Gio’s or Gomer’s skills… other than collecting fat paycheck without doing anything for it. That’s what I call skill.
Oh ye of little faith…
Same sh*t, Same HIO writer.
Yeah the 3rd period collapse was bad, but there were some positives I take from this… Most notably is the fact that Cunnyworth had less than a day to prepare as head coach.. I don’t see that in your liveblog and I don’t think we will see that in your ABOUT LAST NIGHT piece either….
Shame, because between you HIO boys, and the FRENCH only Coach needed RDS, I have had it up to here with your vile filth writing.
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Blame it on the hot-dogs.
yeah no SH*t.. 5 too many me thinks
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You can eat a 12 ounce steak for that money.
I agree, PK played like the old PK we knew. Give Cunny time to fix the mess Martin has made with these poor rookies’ heads. Gainey began that. Molson and boys in the Habs management, time to start supporting your talented rookies like Subban!
Another stunning move to save PG. If JM was not the right person for the job, then why did they allow two of the best replacement candidates to leave the organization?
How could a man who won 600 games in the leauge not play the guys the GM signed in the off season? Didn’t JM know that Cole needs more minutes than Darche?
Same story as usual, this team is not going to score more than three goals. So Price has to let in two or less. Once the other team scores four, the game is over.
You have to think that all these moves – Campoli, Kaberle, Pearn, JM all come down to PG miscalculating on Markov’s knee.
Blue, blanc et rouge. Red and White for Canada. Blue for Smurfs.
What’s the old saw? About the nail in the horse’s shoe by which the battle is lost?
That said, maybe Markov’s knee is a blessing in disguise. Markov would have made this team look better than it is, and better than it’s coach was. Now the bride is stripped bare.
Can you imagine if the new coach opens things up offensively, and we actually do get Markov back in the new year.
Ride the wind, baby!!
Lets hope Cunny doesn’t adopt a style of play that hinders the talents of shooters. PK needs space boys. He needs to be PK Subban. Cole needs to do what Cole does best, crash the net. This is the crash the net NHL for those of you who actually listen to Gary Bettman. The Habs have been thinking it is not. Well it is and the habs have to sign more players like Cole.
12th in NHL Jaroslav Halak 2.27 GAA
17th Carey Price 2.38 GAA
“Trading Jaroslav Halak was the brain dead decision of all time.” Red Fisher
oh my
Seriously? Do you need a tissue because of that trade 2 years ago?
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Keep trying – Halak has played 15 games & Price 28 games…..
LMAO…. Halak is the Blues back-up.. Know what you are talking about before you post on here again. Thank you for your time in this matter.
Halak isn’t even a starting goalie. He and Elliott play as a tandem. Price has started 13 games more than Halak, facing and stopping over twice as many shots. Halak’s save percentage is 90.6% and Price’s is 91.5%. Halak’s win percentage is 31.25% while Price’s is 41.38%
But nice try isolating one statistic to make a completely misleading and frankly, dishonest point. There is no statistical evidence thus far that keeping Price was not the correct move.
I’m starting to wonder if the reason the Habs players are always sucking air, and plain old sucking in the third, is because they are just not in shape enough to compete for 60 minutes..? I remember when people used to make fun of the Sens for doing interviews after the game in the workout room on the bikes, but there was a good reason for that, to play 60 minutes of hard hockey you have to be in damn good shape.
This organization is heading south! They should have kept Martin till seasons end. They should have fired Gauthier, he is has been and very fake at that! Martin would have kept the media in check, now we got an anglo (not his fault) running the team and poor guy will get run out of town and have a nervous break down at that. All this team needs now. they have young players that need to develop without adversity. What a circus, bet you Cole will be the last free agent of quality we will sign here for the next 5 years at the very least.
Heading south? They crossed the Mason-Dixon line over a decade ago my friend.
when language started to matter is when we started our downward spiral, when scotty, sam, dick, were around it didn’t matter, now its everything!
I think moving from The Forum might have had something to do with it as well. Maybe they would have been better off doing what the Rangers did and just gut and refurbish the old barn? The ghosts passed on going to the Molson Center.
Scotty, Sam and Dick were all bilingual.
The fans didn’t like 11th place – I wonder how they’ll like 12th
Bref, boring 3rd.
Great first and second. Very entertaining!
As for the third, I think its the worst period I watched the habs play in years. Except the Kostitsyn’s deke, nothing happen.
They were trying stretch passes after stretch passes. He’ll have a rough night and don’t want to hit on the guy, but Cunneyworth should have done something to stop this mess. Reduce the space between D and fowards, fowards play closer, short passes…
Bref, boring 3rd.
First game under new coach. Lets give them a couple & see what happens. I kind of expected this result tonight. No biggie.
“Hate the Ole song like a sickness”
Well, the Radio City Rocketts are not the usual entertainment I favor on a Saturday night in December, but it’s better than pissing away my valuable time watching the abject suckitude that is the Montreal Canadiens!
if your time was so valuable i doubt you would waste it writing this worthless comment
That a boy! You tell him sport! Post worthless comments and you’ll be right there replying to them!
i got nothing better to do haha my time is not nearly as valuable :p
EDIT: usually i just type out my snide response and then hit cancel and pretend I hit submit and everyone wins … for some reason I went for it this time … back to plan A next time
In other words, you did not follow The System?
Well said. Although, I’m not sure I’m quite ready to fall back into its cozy confines just yet.
If only the Habs were half as offensive as we at HIO can be.
what are you trying to say? huh? what’s your point? why don’t you just shut it?
Sorry, just trying to show we can be defensive too. :p
Gill in less than 5 minutes has scored more points than Hamerlik (1) has all season all for 7 million over two years & worse plus minus……
15 minute players-only meeting after the game. Ohh if only HBO 24/7 cameras were in the building tonight…
I should think that some guys are getting some serious strips torn off them for not performing. Eller has had some of his media scrum quotes posted on Twitter already and he sounds just livid. He cares.
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Gill and Campoli – didn’t work.
AK-Pleks-Cams – didn’t work.
Their only good spots were on individual efforts.
Realistically there’s only on line working on this team. There’s zero stability and little cohesion. And too many errors from the guys logging the most minutes. Things don’t look too good for this team…
It’s going to be an interesting road trip.
I am really worried for Randy Cunneyworth. Not because of his ability or anything. I can just imagine him having to face the press tonight… especially the french press.
Man he’s in for a tough ride. PG should be at the presser with Randy.. and in fact so should Geoff and maybe even a player or two and an alumni.. preferably french.
The players on thi steam needs to see management having each other’s back right now.
Very very uneasy atmosphere now.
I’m not sure you’ve ever dealt with the media before but that’s a great way to turn something minor into something huge.
Okay, so we can put to rest a couple of theories. 1) The players had quit on JM. 2) The system was stifling out talented players. In fact we find out that: 1) the players haven’t quit at all, they just didn’t have any heart to begin with, and 2) we don’t have any talented players. Normally I’m more of a glass-half-empty guy, I’ll admit it. Tonight I’m more of a glass-completely-empty guy. The only way out of this mess, I’m increasingly convinced, is to go the tank route. I just hope Gauthier is gone before trade deadline this year. Just don’t trust him to get good return.
Tired of watching this train wreck.
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Have fun buddy and at our age we don’t have to bag it,lol
you watch price will run away from this team next year . It’s sux watching my fav team like this.This is mainly management failures…. Thank god for the cole pac and dd line. If not for those guys what would this team be…
Did you see the comment on here and then get deleted? Maybe it just timed out?
Price is a solid goalie but, like many on this team, he seems to have lapses that are costly.
We can win the Cup with Price, but Price isn’t going to win us the Cup.
In other words, Price is the least of our problems.
Team meeting going on now apparently … media still waiting for access.
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I guess the Habs don’t get that 5 game bump. A decent 2nd period and watch Cole be suspended for 3 to 5 games.
Price not huge tonight, but can’t fault him on all the goals.
One of the things most of us expected was the 4th line getting minutes. Didn’t happen. I expected a furious forecheck. Didn’t happen. I expected less dump-ins and more offensive zone passing. Didn’t happen.
At least the Habs got a PP goal, not that it mattered a lot in the end.
The shock the players received this morning did not spark them. It made them uncertain and shaky. It was reflected in their play save for a few brief moments.
Fire RC!
Very poor 3rd period. Decent start but you can’t expect much from anyone in today’s game considering RC found out this morning that he was head coach.
But I am a tad worried about the Bruins this week. If we play with the same sloppiness we showed in the 3rd, we will get destroyed.
Sad but true.
On a positive note:
Leafs Lost!
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Blaming Price, now that’s freakin funny.
Poor poor clueless souls.
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lol,no doubt. A terrible campoli giveaway and an awful line change by pk which led to the clarkson goal in the 2nd is a good place to start if blame needs to be handed out.
Who is “blaming” Price?
I think I (and others) are stating the facts. Carey Price, along with the rest of his team, has to be better. Bottom line.
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exactly.
I hope, for his sake, that RC isn’t pressured to do anything but what he feels is best for the team. If not, we’ll all be nostalgic for JM sooner than we would like to admit.
No single player is the problem, and no single player is the answer.
Our roster, from top to bottom, is not good. Do all our players suck? No. Are any of them great? No.
It’s a collection of mediocre players. Let’s face it. What you see is what you get.
Five game winning streak begins Monday. Calling it.
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This I like. Glad I mucked through the slop to find it.
Thanks … hope you are right.
I am saving this post Bill. I hope you are right.
what was that zappa quote again?
Whats another bad decade, give it a break folks, its not like its a half century
Decision was the right one…the timing sucked…good move to distract the players right before a crucial game…nevermind not giving the new coach time to gather his thought and strategies ..Mtl management threw two points away … At least Anaheim waited tillAFTER a game to make a change… And still can’t get my mind around the two mil payout….
The two million pay out … rumour?
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Price needs some rest.
“Hate the Ole song like a sickness”
72 games are too many. He needs to get it down to 60 or 65.
Of course we need a sturdier back-up
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Meet the new boss, same as the old boss.
Someone please tell me why Darche has the 4th most TOI on the team tonight I did not see the game.
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I am sick and tired of mediocrity
He, Eller and Leblanc had energy tonight, and Cunneyworth also gave him some PK time. I’m no fan of Darche, but he wasn’t the reason we lost tonight.
Jesus, everyone thinks RC was going to fix it all tonight!! Some of you on here are the Habs worst enemy!
He didn’t tie Campoli’s skate laces together as a prank on the bench?
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I think you are not seeing clearly that the problems with this hockey team do not derive from its coaching staff.
Says the guy who could not go 1 day without posting 20 time that he wanted Martin fired…
I think you may have someone else in mind. I certainly have made critical comments about Martin, but I did not fixate on that like you are erroneously claiming.
Prove it by reviewing my past posts and provide some evidence, or shut the hell up.
Have to admit that I was wrong on this one. I went back and read many of your posts and you have not been as critical of Martin as I thought.
Instead I found about 50 posts of every kind of insult you can imagine against Cammallerri & Gomez and in general about 90% of your post are bellyaching, but not so much against Martin, so I apologize.
Zdeno Chara says hi.
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I’m not saying Price is the reason we lost tonight…and some of those goals he had no chance on. But let’s be honest here…Carey Price hasn’t been stellar this season. Before tonight’s game his sv% was ranked 17th in the league.
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He has the worst save % in shootouts of any starting goale- I think its just over .400,
Thats a lot of points left on the table
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Too bad the team in front of him can’t protect a 2- or 3-goal lead. They don’t stop pressing the attack, the idea of a shootout is moot. Also, take a look at how many SO goals the skaters have this year. That’s not to excuse Price, he knows he can be better, but there’s more to it than just Price.
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But still RGM, Price has to take some of the responsibility. Just because they win a game, does not mean Price is the 1st star every night.
He was not good in the 2nd, especially when the boys out front pot 3. You have to be better than that.
Price is cool. But he has some warts like a lot of his teammates
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I’m mostly annoyed by the slow clearances. The D goes to the corner and remains static and waits for Pricey to pass them the puck. The puck ends up in the D’s skates, confusion ensues and the break out fails… Time and time again.
He’s very good with the puck, but his perceived nonchalance around his net (and same goes for his D partners…) causes many problems.
For 40 minutes they did alright. They’d still get killed by the Bruins or the Red Wings, but they were doing OK against a mid pack team… And that pretty much sums it up.
Hope Cunneyworth gets the green light to overhaul the Martin system, and this squad is simply not strong enough up the middle.
Can’t fault Price for the loss – just wish he could have made a few more big saves when the team really needed them.
…at least the Weedz are down 5-3 in the last minute …small comfort
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None whatsoever.
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The moderator on this site is an arbitrary fool.
I guess JM screwed up this one yet again. Oh, wait….
So here’s my theory: Pleks and Cammy are both new dads. And I know from firsthand experience that being a new dad cuts into your sleep and motivation big time.
No? No?
Spend a few dollars and hire a full-time nanny.
Hmm, makes sense …so the solution would be to write into the contracts that they can’t have children.
OTOH, Roger Federer played (and continues to do so) at a very high level despite being the father of twin girls.
I know you’re being facetious. I never bought into that “New dad” crap. It was just another excuse, which the players, at least were smart enough not to offer.
…will Boone be too depressed to write His ALN ?
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Jus think ,if they would have won last two games they would have caught the Leafs.
I thought after the last game that Budaj should start tonight. Price has not been great in any of the games this week. Not that the loss can be blamed on him. A team that can’t maintain any offensive zone pressure and constantly breaks down defensively is not going to win too many games. As our record shows. Four victories in the last 13 games I think. How can anyone still be talking about playoffs? It’s getting harder and harder to cheer for this team.
They scored 3 in the 2nd!
Price is a good goalie, but he sucked in the 2nd.
HA HA Phaneuf sucks.
Another display of mediocrity. I could take being a non-playoff team if we were actually rebuilding. While not making the playoffs isn’t acceptable for the Montreal Canadiens, in this league you have to be bad before you can get the right players to challenge. Let the young ones grow, while playing entertaining hockey, and get rid of the overpaid hacks for some draft picks. A young, energetic team is entertaining to watch at least, rather than the lazy and uninspired show we had tonight.
Price didn’t have a bad game, just an average one. How was he supposed to stop that 2 on 0 in the 3rd? The defense sure doesn’t help him by turning the puck over and over again.
Ok on to the next firing initiative……PG HAS to go!
This soft D against the Goons will be something too watch! Time for Gauthier and his 7 Dwarfs to go!
I don’t care if this gets deleted, but those talking about the team having to be blown up. No way. One player is standing out to me for all the wrong reasons.
Mike Cammalleri. He makes dumb plays with the puck defensively and offensively, and I bet my shed would have more marks from him than me.
I know there are going to be those who will bring up his playoff success, but that does not matter IMO (you gotta make it there first), he is a waste of that much cap space. No offence, no defense.
he’s a waste of a really nice jersey
i would love to see cammy, gomez, gionta, weber, and darche long gone tomorrow morning
Of course this team has to be blown up. It’s sad to watch these guys get out-hustled, out-passed, and out-played in general. Soft D, no offensive firepower, no go-to guys at all. Not a single player on this team could crack the top line of ANY other team in the league. As much as I like him, even Pleks would be a 1B on any other team. We need new leadership, that’s not afraid to put Gomez in Hamilton and use that $7.0 mil on some upgrades; not afraid to trade some of the 2rd and 3rd line players we’ve drafted over the past 5 years; not afraid to say that what we have is not good enough to win it all and therefore we will pack it in [ie. trade what we can for assets] for the year instead of dragging this out for a shot at 8th place.
You have got to be kidding…without Price the game would have been over after 40 minutes
A once mighty dynasty has become a modern day circus.
Please don’t insult modern day circuses. I dare the Canadiens to put up a better show than Cirque du Soleil.
somebody please explain why we all want to trade our best skater in pleks??
doesnt make sense to me
“The most common substance in the universe is actually stupidity” – Frank Zappa
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so…pleks is stupid?
… no, people want to trade him because THEY are stupid.
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We do?
There must be something going on in the locker room that none of us know about. There is probably 4-5 people who just don’t give a damn! Any guesses?
Doris the cleaning lady, Eddy the towel boy, and Dobby the House Elf.
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Freakin’ Dobby! I knew it!!!
***Subbang Baby!!!***
Dude, too soon on the “Eddy the towel boy” comment.
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Literally was NOT referring to what you think I was referring to.
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This team still can’t break out of the zone… and can’t finish.
Meanwhile NJ breaks out and shoots at will against every line but the DD gang (the only one that maintains any pressure…)
NJ seems motivated to play in this building. Brodeur of course, but Sykora, Zubrus, Elias, Kovalchuk, Parise, Henrique & Clarkson played great. They completely buried their match ups as the game went on.
Lots of work to be done by Randy & Randy.
The lack of compete in Cammy’s game is getting ridiculous. There’s no way he can be back next year. Some playoff bound team out West will give up something for him because of his playoff rep.
Trade Cammy, send Gomez to Hamilton and the Habs cap issues become a non-factor going forward.
lets see the results in 10 games, glad they are going on a road trip
Pleks isn’t going anywhere. Unfortunately, I see cammi gone by the deadline. And yes I think price has been good NOT great
Who’s gonna tak eCammy’s contract $6 mil a year for 2 more years for 13 goals a year?
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Price can’t win us games on his own, but he’s not part of the problem either. He has a good attitude.
He’s better than anything we could get on the FA market, and younger, so as long as we aren’t paying him $10M a season, we may as well keep him.
You can’t judge Price this year to last. Our team was so much better last year, Weber and Diaz should of been in Hamilton from the start of the season. Due to injuries they have been playing, with Campoli back in and Kabs playing they should send them back. They have no business being in the NHL. Emelin has been our only bright spot on D, Subban has been below average this season. Gorges is our best D-man, although Gill has been a great leader and good shot blocker he is slow, so you know what your getting with Gill.
Then we have the offense, Cammy has been brutal, Gio has worked hard but he isn’t scoring and then we have Gomer, what a terrible trade and we have Gainey to blame for that one.
At seasons end Gainey “will” step down and PG will be fired. That way the new GM can hire his own coach. Time to retool and start over.
Why all the hate for Pleks? He’s leading the team in scoring and is our best center!
25 before 14
Yeah…I don’t get that either. Let’s not forget his value on the penalty kill..
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Yeah, he has 6 whole goals, you can’t replace scary talent like that.
At least Cunneyworth is a better dresser than Martin.
Carbonneau dressed well too.
Except for his lucky tie .