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If you were outside Scotiabank Place at about 10 p.m., you saw a terrified money running through an Ottawa snowstorm.
It was the one that jumped off Randy Cunneyworth’s back.
Bench him more often 😉
Trade the bum!!!
WOW! Sweet goal by Eller.
Great goal by the great dane!!!
only way i see Gill staying in the NHL is if he changes his nature and starts throwing his weight around big time like Chara does cause Gill is just too slow to play like a whimp
alfie’s one of the best divers in the league.
Price ,please stay in net!
wonder what La Presse will have to say after this game?
The word is out on our D
That one’s on Gill. He let the Sen walk out of the corner with the puck
The guy’s a pylon
“You have to be this tall to ride on this ride”
-as posted in amusement parks across North America
thats a penalty??
Here we go.
Shouldn’t be a penalty.
You gotta be kidding me. 1-0 already!
Think of us getting a higher draft pick, and someone other than PG making the pick, and these games will go down easier.
Teams are smelling blood against us.
Isn’t there a law or moral principle which prohibits players playing this bad from wearing the CH?
HALLL GILLLL HAAHAHAAHAAA, i dont care how good he is on the penallty kill he does not belong in the NHL hahahahaa
time to trade that guy, he’s a Pilon , players skate righit around him make Gill dizzy
Gill was horrible there. Horrible.
SO Gill getting benched finally? THAT WAS TERRIBLE
Hal Gill can no longer play in the NHL.
he never could, thats why bos, tor and pit got rid of him
WTF was Gill doing there?
Hal gill is brutal!!’ man that was just horrible
Wow… That didn’t take long.
I need a win.
Ah jeez I just turned on the tv and Burlesque is on. Hmmm Habs hockey or Burlesque ???
“I figure PG has one or 2 moves left to bring the Habs that extra step closer to perhaps being the best in the league.” – Einstein
Anybody willing to give credit to Eklund’s list of potential trade candidates after seeing he placed Josh Gorges on it?
And he mentioned big trade with Nashville, could it be Daniel Geoffrion a Hab!
I actually thought that as well. One can only wish for a package deal to get Suter
Scotia bank place hands down the most boring building and fans in the NHL!!
Ever been to a Coyotes game?
Confirmed: Campoli and Weber and healthy scratches
Really excited to check out the MacPac-Eller-Cole line! It is a line combo I’ve been championing around here for a while now. Could be dynamite. Hopefully it gets Eller going and DD shows himself to be productive regardless of who his linemates are. Maybe this experiment will be really fruitful for the team.
Ottawa’s Mark Stone and Mika Zibanejad are certainly as good if not better than Bournival and Gallagher in terms of this year’s WJC. The Sens are stockpiling some decent kids right now.
Little kids close their ears and run screaming when exposed to McGuires’ voice. That’s reason enough not to hire him.
He also has the same effect on me.
+1 LL, how was your Holiday?
So far so good. Another week of a few of the seven deadly sins to go. 🙂
My problem too BUT what if there is actually a hockey genius lurking behind the nerdy facade??
Nah! have not seen it yet, twenty years and counting!
Haha, Nah! is right. In some cases, the book is like its cover.
Major props to Boone tonight for wearing his print and online fedoras while Hickey awaits the Canadiens’ arrival in Florida and I use up a few of the vacation days I’ve still got on the books, returning with next week at the team’s first practice in 2012. Get the boys a win, Mike!
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When did you start getting vacation days Dave?
Did Hickey drive his Vauxhall down fo Florida????
Another day, another series of concussion announcements.
I hope the NHL gets their act together and attacks this issue immediately. No more foot dragging, stonewalling, waiting for further studies and employing flimsy excuses while lives are being threatened.
There are a number of recommendations and suggestions already on the table from modified equipment, reestablishing the red line, enforcing the existing rules, reducing the hooking and holding calls, eliminating staged fights, coming down hard on head hits with much longer suspensions and much bigger team fines, getting the players to up their respect level for each other, and even more. No one single solution will solve the problem. There are lots of little things that if applied properly will save lives and enhance the game, and many can be implemented now.
These young lives are being threatened and shortened by the idiotic notion that “getting your bell rung” is not harmful. Wake up.
If this site still had the thumbs up feature, you’d be getting one from me. Well said.
GO HABS GO! 2011-12 is probably not our year!
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But PJ Stock says couple beer and an advil and get back on the ice? Cheers Punkster, agree with you, hope your Christmas was good my friend.
Right on! Modification of the equipment as suggested by Don Cherry seems to be the first step.
Boone…the concussions aren’t out of control. They’ve been in the game for decades. Now concussions make great copy so every rap in the head that cause’s a guy to see stars and get a headache is a concussion.
Ignorance is bliss, I guess. The NHL is counting on people like you to keep the idea alive that action isn’t needed to protect the people playing the game.
RGM – I didn’t say that.
Kinda agree with both of you about the concussions , but we will never know how many players in the last 40 years played after suffering a concussion that with the new medical advances and rules regarding the effects of concussions would have grounded them. However even watching “old Time Hockey’ you never or hardly saw the players going for someone’s head like they do now for fear of a through beatdown from someone like Ferguson or immeadiate retribution from another team member fo the hit player.
My main thought is the players are bigger stronger (look at some old Habs vidios and Robinson looks so small compared to the d-men now playing) and have no respect for their fellow players.
Fearless rediction (a ridiculous prediction):
Carbonneau replaces PG as GM and hires Gainey to coach.
You can do better
Mike will you stop bitching already? You’ve got a job we’d give our nuts for.
He’s only trying to fit in here. 🙂
And imagine your surprise on discovering you need those nuts to do the job properly
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No optimism Mike. Sens have got way more talent than the Habs do. Only way, as you said, would be for Price to steal one. And its about time he did if I do say so myself.
More laughs than tears Mr. Boone considering you’re a McGill alumni and all.
Alumnus. I don’t suffer multiple-personality disorder
No you just have the one lousy one
Is it too late to sit Gill instead of Campoli
This whole thing about Pierre McGuire as the Habs next GM is proposterious! The guys is a tool (a brace and bit tool to be precise). I can understand how everyone on this website praises Scotty Bowman the way they do, but I would like to reserve the right to give kudos to the seventies teams to one Sam Pollock, one of the smartest and shrewdest guys to ever be associated with hockey. My hats off to Scotty Bowman, but giving any sort of endorsement to McGuire holds no water with me.
He’s a tool to drill holes in wood?
We already fixed the boards at the Bell Center, so that settles it, he is useless for the Habs.
well molson has until the trade deadline or at least a week before to can PG , and let the new GM follow though with what will be the starting point of Mr molson’s tenure as owner , well thats what i am hoping for.
but the other option is to wait until the season ends and see what happens.PG may have a short lease in this case if Mr molson believes in him as GM then he wont . if we make a big move i think Mr molson will have to okay the deal , if we are selling players off hes gone for sure , tinkering with the team and he may be safe another year.
timeing is everything and Mr molson needs to show the fans he bought the team for the right reasons, the last owner left big shoes to fill and so far geoff has not even tried them on.
Add Simon Gagne as well as Nashville’s Shea Weber to the concussion list.
And John Michael Liles in T.O.
Any comments on Friedman’s thoughts regarding Gainey would rather be a coach? If you think that Cunnyworth elicited a reaction when he was announced just wait until Bob is back as HC…
Gainey went behind the bench twice during his reign in Montreal and failed both times.
Listened to the TSN interview, and it didn’t really seem like Bowman was seriously pumping McGuire for the GM job. To me it was more like this: the interviewer brought up the idea of McGuire as Habs’ GM, and Bowman – who is obviously good friends with McGuire – said some nice things about his friend. What was he gonna do, say “No, Pierre wouldn’t be a good choice”?
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Exactly. Melnick was just trying to pump air into McGuire’s trial balloon and Bowman played along
So Mike the points that Scotty made in McGuire’s favour weren’t valid? That is what you’re saying right?
Here’s a novel approach for you guys. Try it on for size.
PG knew exactly what he was doing making RC the interim coach and knew what the consequences would be. Knowing full well that the Habs chances of making the playoffs were slim and none PG gives a good coach, a great guy and an ex journeyman player the chance to get some NHL coaching under his belt with the most prestigeous club de hockey in the world.
He said.. Randy my friend I can give you this interim head coaching opportunity which will come with a shit storm of adversity, pressure and personal insult. You know exactly what you’;ve got in terms of player personnel and all in all it ain’t that good a team. As well even if you can pull this team into the playoffs you will still be fired in the end.
RC said yes Pierre thanks very much for he opportunity..I accept.
PG genuflected, said a few Hail Marys and released the Krakken.
Sounds plausible to me.
That lineup is not going to strike fear into many teams.
…but it strikes fear into me! Lord, we suck…
Please Beat these Guys!!
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I was one of the few who prolly thought JW wasnt going to get canned.. when he did i was surprised.. i wasnt for or against but the results leaned me to that i agreed.. now the problem is it didnt work like planned.. why? we have JM 2.0 in the lineup.. half the fanbase doesnt approve.. and half the media doesnt approve.. the players didnt give a hoot under JM.. the same system with a new voice changed nothing… PG choked by making a big splash without having a legit road map (unless that roadmap is tanking) in the end firing JM was the wrong move because it showed MTL’s inability to either create or follow through on a plan B.. personally i dont fdind PG responsible for the disaster on the ice.. i blame molson.. he is the boss… he decides who comes and goes by approviing of PG moves.. he came out caused a bigger poop storm referring to the coaching debacle after cunneyworth was hired Markovs knee injury and the total disregard for the fans (maybe even the players ).. after he came in charge it whent downhill for MTL… PG makes great moves (moore. wisniewski, Cole, Emelin,) the list goes on farther but the bottom line is that the team is in a perfect storm of thoughtlessness, half hearted efforts. thats how alot of the press conferences sound “i dont know where Markov is” i dont blame JM for that.. but JM boss… PG or molson… boo to the administration bvecause their lack of care for their customers trickled down to the product…
Go Habs Go
we have JM 2.0 in the lineup.. half the fanbase doesnt approve.. and half the media doesnt approve.. the players didnt give a hoot under JM.. the same system with a new voice changed nothing…
Love how you make up numbers. Half? Right. Half of Quebec you mean. Then there is the rest of Canada and the USA fans. Ya, half.
Not sure when this ‘the majority of Habs fans are Francophone’ started but I find that very hard to believe. Maybe those are the only ones that count?
This team has many fans all over Canada, North America and I am sure farther still. That should not take away from the fact that they are a Quebec team. The more the merrier right?
Habs win tonight, full stop.
I like the D pairings, and quite frankly I hope they stay this way.
This should help reduce the 6-0 shalacking!
Fwds… we need help… but for now it’s these lines or DD and the trees
Pierre McGuire for General Manager!
1. When was the last time he himself scouted a junior player? And I’m not talking about seeing them three or four times on a Worldwide stage playing with elite talent. I’m talking about in a barn, with his notepad out, speaking to the players’ coaches, parents, teachers and teammates about them?
2. When was the last time Pierre McGuire did anything business related with a player agent that would constitute any kind of relationship?
3. When was the last time he dealt with adversity in the face of a losing streak and had to exercise patience and caution with the responsibility or a city, team, players, coaches and all of their families hanging in the balance?
The work he’s done for close to the last twenty years has not given him any of the tools or experience necessary to control the hockey operations of an NHL franchise.
People who want Gauthier and Martin out were adamant, by majority, that the game has passed these guys by. What do you think it did with McGuire? A guy who never had a good handle on the game at the professional level to begin with.
Don’t under-estimate his wealth of knowledge from close to 20 years of broadcasting.
He’s well connected to coaches, GM”s, scouts, player agents, and he’s seen more hockey than almost anyone else.
It’s not a one-man occupation. Brian Burke has hired numerous people for the Leafs front office. That’s where it starts. You build a strong player personnel/development team and away you go.
Then hire Don Cherry. He obviously knows EVERYTHING using the broadcast venue as a basis.
apples and oranges.
Cherry does coaches corner only- and he’s 80 years old..
McGuire covers the whole NHL for TSN and NBC. His knowledge base and scope of contacts would dwarf Cherry’s.
“He’s well connected to coaches, GM”s, scouts, player agents, and he’s seen more hockey than almost anyone else.”
Can’t we say this exact same thing about every NHL exec? It’s highly likely that all assistant GM’s are much better connected and watch even more hockey. I can’t believe this is a plus in Pierre’s favor relative to the field, outside of retreads like Savard.
Probably but the difference is Pierre not being a current GM would have different conversations with these contacts- a lot of them may be of a confidential that they wouldn’t share with established members of the fraternity.
You sir have the awesomest avatar on this board, hands down.
“No, I see. The monkey’s out of the bottle now!”
Cheers mate! He was one of the greats.
Habs and Strummer 2 things dear to me.
We lost him 9 years ago last week.
Bottom line- I’m not saying we should hire McGuire- I’m only saying it’s not THAT outrageous.
Reggie Houle was a beer salesman!
4. “With Komisarek, Beauchemin and Schenn the Leafs have a defence that compares to Montreal’s “Big Three” of Robinson, Savard and Lapointe.”
Lol … wow I hope this idea is not buzzing around Molson’s head.
he was also the idiot who said Komo would exel in Toronto without having Markov to weigh him down
Greatest reason ever against hiring him. I often believe certain fans are delusional, but when one clamors for McGuire, it all but confirms my suspicions.
EDIT: ok so there are far better reasons, but few so efficiently stated.
I hear you … I can’t believe how many people are running with this idea. Let me throw out this radical idea: Scotty Bowman is fallible. Especially at this point in his life. If he said McGuire would be a good GM, I honestly think he must be trying to sabotage the team.
McGuire is a TV hack. He’s been out of hockey for what, 16 years? You might as well hire PJ Stock IMO.
I’ve applied some rules to make my H I/O browsing more enjoyable.
Ignore posts that contain the following:
Hire Pierre McGuire
an ignore function would work wonders on this place, and help sift thru the riff-raff and the kiddies.
Please advise when you have this tool perfected. I would like to add it to my PC.
Please add: Give Gomez more time
Do you think Scotty Bowman’s endorsement of him is just business etiquette or does he really think that McGuire is good enough to be a GM ? Guys like Scotty don’t just put their name on anybody do they ? I realize they worked in the past together, but Mr. Bowman really didn’t have to say that in his interview on 990.
Habs, OLE !
Maybe Scotty is trying to help out the Habs while they’re floundering….As McGuire says…you have to watch out rival teams, they might send you an anchor instead of a life preserver.
I think Scotty was being polite. Scotty never brought up PM’s name, the interviewer asked him directly if he thought PM could be GM in Montreal. What was Scotty supposed to say? It’s not like he could say “My good friend is a clown, don’t hire him.” He just said that PM started out as a hockey guy, not a broadcaster and that he has been interviewed for the job in other cities, so yes that PM could do the job. All of which is true.
Pierre Mcguire makes himself sound so relevant to hockey by using hindsight.
Being negative has its advantages,
you’re never disappointed.
Good grief give it up Tom.
“McGuire won two Stanley Cups as a scout and assistant coach with the Pittsburgh Penguins in 1991 and 1992. He then joined the Hartford Whalers as an assistant coach and was later named assistant general manager. On November 17, 1993 he was named head coach, leading the team to a 23-37-7 record in the 1993–94 after replacing Paul Holmgren in mid-season. Holmgren replaced McGuire as head coach following that campaign.
From 1994 to 1996, McGuire worked as a pro scout and assistant coach for the Ottawa Senators.”
Pierre McGuire’s resume:
1990-91 & 1991-92 Assistant Coach with cup winning Penguins
1992-93 Whalers assistant coach and assistant GM
1993-94 Became head coach mid season, the team
was 23-37-7 under McGuire.
1994-96 Pro scout and assistant coach with Ottawa
If this guy is such a hockey genius, why is it no NHL team has hired him since 1996? Not even as a scout or an advisor.
Pierre McGuire as GM: (Likely Scenerio)
– Rides into Montreal from Connecticut wearing a jacket that says ‘the Saviour”
– Hires his buddy Mike Milbury as the next HC
– Milbury unable to attend his duties for home games due to legal issues so PM takes over for home games behind the bench.
– Pierre then fires Milbury after it is discovered Milbury is purposely sabotaging the team and then beat up PM with his Bruins slippers.
– PM then goes after LEcavalier making it weell known through the media that a french “superstar” is coming home and he is making it happen. Pacioretty, Weber and Gionta are shipped out to make this happen. ALthough Tom Pyatt also returns home in the deal.
– Aftera 9 game losing streak in which Lecavalier records 1 point and Desharnais and Diaz are all put on waivers the media begins to question PM’s ability. IN each interview PM blames former GM PG for the mess and fires interim coach Michel Bergeron to buy himself some time to complete his secret project.
– 3 weeks later PM’s project is complete by successfully cloning Travis Moen 12 times to fill out his forward depth.
– The team finsihes dead last and Pm decides to trade the first overall pick for Zach Parise who later asks for a trade to which PM trades for the 16th overall pick.
-PM is then fired and Scotty Bowman then does an interview with 990 and says he was just kidiing around before about PM being a good GM.
I guess we’ll all see won’t we, better stick to your armchairs and Your Labatt blue products
I think if bowman can give him a chance and a vote of confidence I think I can. Although I hate the guy as a color man!!!!!!!!
He did backflips about how stupid Montreal was to let the Leafs get Komisarek for only 4.5 mill or so…. he coached Hartford for about a week, he was an assistant in Pittsburgh and hated some guy named Mario Lemieux who he would just as soon have gotten rid of….. there’s a reason he hasn’t had an NHL job in 20 years.
And then there’s the fact that he’s spoken poorly of every GM and coach in the NHL at one point or another. Has been great at lauding people when they’re successful and kicking them when they’re down.
He’s far too reactionary to be trusted to build anything. And this is all ignoring the possibility that he just may not know that much about the game. He certainly hasn’t proven himself to have a good to elite knowledge of anything hockey.
Here is a nice little piece on Pierre.
He was a Sens scout from 94-96.
The same Sens that took Bonk with the #3 overall pick, then Berard with the #1 overall pick, and Phillips with the #1 overall pick the third year of his tenure.
In three years as a scout, the Sens made one decent draft choice (stole Alfredsson in the 6th round). In a brief stint as Hartford’s GM he did nothing special, as their coach he was behind the bench for 70 games and won 23 of those. Nothing there screams give this guy a job, forgetting all the nonsense he spews on a regular basis on TV which truly makes one question his ‘expertise’.
Looks like S.Bowman put a whole bunch here in the penalty box and gave them a 5 minute major for self-inflected poor judgment,lol
Too many hilarious quotes about ‘massive lower bodies’ and ‘great sticks’.
Hereès a trade for you:
Gomez, Markov, Gionta (although I donèt want to trade him) and Kaberle = TB
Lecavalier, Malone, Moore = Montreal
Or throw in a couple others to make the cap hit work.
How bout Carey Price ,Plecs and Cammi for Ovie
or Subban ,Gionta and Cammi for Rick Nash?
because washington has won so many cups with ovie, and columbus with nash.
How about Cammi, Campoli and a 2nd for Bobby Ryan and a late rounder?
i would take that deal as Habs GM
no to trading Price but I would gladly trade Gionta, Cammalleri and Subban for Nash and a pick (any round)
How about we hire a kidnapper to take away Gionta, Gomez, Cammalleri and Kaberle to just free up the cap space?
Kidnapper wants 7 million per season to hold them till they’re contracts expire….
“Patrick V. Hickey and Dave Stubbs are off, so I’m carrying the flag for The Gazette at Scotiabank Place … which means writing newspaper copy while trying to blog.”
The Gazette has a flag? Does this mean Boone runs around with it in his basement prior to blogging similar to what those little kids do with a Habs flag prior to each game at the Bell Centre?
It’s probably one of those weather beaten Habs flags that people put on their cars….Mr. Boone secretly took it from Hickey’s classic Honda…Police have been notified.
if anyone of you guys are interested to listen, TSN990 did a recent interview with Scotty Bowman.
here’s the full interview:
Its interesting that team990 (i don’t know if John Bartlett or Tony Marinaro did the interview, i don’t listen to the station on a regular basis) mentioned at around 6:22 that Serge Savard was asked about the GM position and he stated 2x to the Canadiens that he’s not interested. They turned to the discussion that Pierre Mcguire as the next logical replacement for Pierre Gauthier.
If anyone who listened to the interview, in my opinion, Bowman is right! Mcguire is I believe the best option that Geoff Molson has to replace what the Gainey & Gauthier era did to the Habs. To those who haven’t listened to it, check it out.
I hope this suggestion would be good but i wish that Jack Todd would write another open letter to Geoff Molson and ask to hire Pierre McGuire as the Next GM for the Habs if Serge Savard REALLY doesn’t want the job.
If they hired Pierre in any capacity, I’d become a Leaf fan.
Did you listen to the interview? If not please do so.
And I’m not a PM fan at all, but good points were made. Will have to rethink my opinion here.
The Canadiens have been mediocre for a very long time and as soon as McGuire points that out, Habs fans are outraged.
If you don’t like him as a commentator that’s one thing but the guy knows his hockey better than any person on this site ever will and has some very strong and passionate ideas about the Habs.
I’d take him over Gauthier any day! Especially since Scotty Bowman is suggesting it!
Serge Savard again…give me a break!
“but the guy knows his hockey better than any person on this site ever will”, that’s the problem, we should compare him to us. All of the things he points out are in hindsight. If he was GM he would have drafted Marc Stall instead of Carey Price, and went with Yan Danis as our future goalie.
habs03: The guy likes big-strong-fast teams. Not Small-fast-Smurf teams. Case closed.
Big Strong Fast team with Yan Denis in nets?
Ok because habs03 says he would have put Jan Denis in goal it is a fact, call the entire thing off!
He would destroy the Habs. Bring in more Smurfs!
I vote No because he has zero track record to support him having this big a role in the NHL. Brief asst. coach in Hartford and brief head coach, then scout/asst. coach for two years in Pittsburgh with all star coaches above him and plethora of all stars on the ice drafted before he had a role in drafting.
Not sure where any of that says become next GM of most storied franchise in hockey.
I guess Bowman’s opinion is wrong than Burlington?
Speak for yourself, I know ten times as much as that clown and I’m just one of many on this site that could say the same.
I am giving my opinion Hobie, also, McGuire has been lobbying for NHL jobs for years and no one hires him. So I guess lots of NHL GM’s/Owners/Presidents are snubbing their noses at Mr. Bowman as well.
NEWS FLASH…..Pierre McGuire just replaced G.M. Gauthier……..
One can only dream Dude….
I love McGuire as the next GM!!!
I heard him saying the the Habs major issue is being tiny up front, on defense and especially at the center position.
If he came in and fixed that problem he’d be god!
He’d be the type of guy to tune out the fans and get the job done!
I have sometimes had a hard time with PM’s strong opinions in the past, but maybe that’s what this franchise needs. We don’t need to “fix any more leaky roofs” or any cheap patch work.
PM has always said that he likes big bodies and doesn’t shy away from the rough stuff = just what we need.
At this point he has my vote as #1 candidate. Then let him select the coach.
I’ve always disliked Pierre McGuire as a color commentator. I find he’s more tolerable on the radio, he keeps the theatrics down when he’s not on camera.
I’ve also always hated the idea of him as GM, but anyone that gets an endorsement from Scotty Bowman deserves a 2nd thought about it…
He is incredibly knowledgeable about the game, he just really annoys me as a commentator when he has to point out where every single player went to high school, played juniors, who each one of their coaches was and how they “get it”.
I’ll never forget when he stated during a play that Darche’s brother had just moved to some town and is a graduate of such and such university and his sister-in-law is studying something bla bla bla. I don’t freaking care, talk about the game.
I also hate how he tries to analyze every single line change a coach makes and blow it way out of proportion. No, it is NOT a genius move to put your top defense pairing out against the other teams line, every freaking coach does it and McGuire has an orgasm over it on the air.
Your examples are some of the “sometimes” I was thinking of, thanks for illustrating them!
One thing that all of us as Habs fans should take a good look at is the fact that our scouting hasn’t been superb and I think he will make a huge change in that department.
Also, it would be nice to have a guy who “calls it the way it is” and throws some adamant opinions around the room! Time to make these players accountable and get them motivated!
I can’t believe what I’m reading! keep it up guys!
Is that good?
I support McGuire for GM 100%
before the season started I wondered how well the Habs would do in the “blue paint” plus/minus team stat.
team gets a + (plus) for every goal scored in the blue paint
team takes a – (minus) for every goal scored against in the blue paint.
this stat is not kept by the NHL as far as I know – but it should be.
a goal scored, a +, is an indication that your forwards are winning the battles in the trenches and scoring the garbage goals needed to win hockey games – at every level
a goal scored against, a -, is an indication that your defence could not clear the rebound and could not effectively protect the crease area.
watch tonight and we’ll see if the Habs have a better “blue paint” +/- than Ottawa.
I think under Cunneyworth, the Habs will eventually improve this number greatly.
Cunneyworth strikes me as the type of coach (and player) who would understand the value of WINNING THE BATTLES IN THE CREASE AREA.
An in-crease presence can only increase our chances of winning
“Hey Richard, two minutes for looking so good!”
In the NHL’s RTSS sheets there is the play-by-play summary that includes shot distance, so a “blue paint” goal might be devised through that. By here is where it gets complicated, the crease is 6 feet from the goal line. For all Mtl’s Dec games so far, no team has scored a goal within 6 feet, so your stat would be zero by the strictest definition of what you want. The closest goals were listed as 7 feet. Mtl has 1 seven-foot goal for and 2 against. If we go out to 10 feet, Mtl has 3 goals for and 9 against. But even then, is a 10-foot goal really a scrum/garbage goal like you mean, or is it one of those defensive lapses where the opponent sneaks in and scores (or a breakaway deke or what)?
Heck of a team can be made off of concussion victims missing NHL time this year.
In net we have Miller and Reimer with Montoya backing them up
Crosby – Richards – Giroux
Savard – Mueller – Skinner
Coutourier – Gerbe – M Michalek
Schenn – Niederreiter – Armstrong
Pronger – Weber
Staal – Letang
Pitkanen – Zidlicky
I’d darn near take that line-up into the Olympics and hope for a lower tiered medal
Forgot Alfredsson, I’m sure I left others out as well.
Another NHL star goes to sickbay due to a concussion.
Didn’t click the link, I rarely do. Is this the Shea Weber story? This epidemic is getting depressing…..
Players missing time with concussions this year include:
Crosby, Laperriere, Richards, Gerbe, Niederiter, Savard, Mueller, Pronger, Giroux, Sauer, Skinner, Pitkanen, Letang, Z Michalek, Staal, Armstrong, Bortuzzo, Beagle, M Michalek, Schenn, Martinek, Zidlicky, Miller, Winchester, Montoya, Kruger, Reimer, Coutourier and Ullstrom
Update: Add Liles to the list as well now… sheesh
Good post Hobie, I agree, that’s exactly what happened and it’s gonna take a long time to straighten it out.
The first two lines are perfect:
Cunnyworth is putting big bodies together on his top lines because that’s how you win!
It’s not his fault Moen doesn’t belong on the first line but in terms of big tough players who can forecheck and create havoc in front of the net, Moen is one of the few available.
Gainey assumed that when the new NHL came to be that the crack-down clutching and grabbing would allow small players like Gionta, Cammalleri and Gomez to dominate. Unfortunately that didn’t happen.
Big, tough strong and talented is the way to go. A player like Gio or Cammy is great but not when you have Plekanec, Gomez Desharnais and a smallish defense too…it just doesn’t work for extended periods of time.
Johnny Wilson, dies at the age of 82.
I was just laughing at the end of the last blog when some fans want to keep all of our small “High priced” veteran forwards …great idea :Cammi,Gionta,Gomez,DD,Plecs and Gallager,lol Get real! Where’s Snow White? Keep DD,Plecs and Gallager……
Time to reverse the trend beginning tonight.
GO HABS GO!
Sounds good Gman!
Chantal Maccabée for the head coaching position? – as suggested by ProHabs 😉
Oy, oy, oy, Mr. Boone would be our first season ticket holder.
I just think the players would play hard to try and impress her.
Scotiabank Place sucks. I feel sorry for ya, Boone.
It’s kinda sad how we villify former Hab players who have held recent mgmnt positions with the Habs. (I am guilty as anyone). My kid gave me a copy of Ken Dryden’s book “The Game” and haveing just starte to read it, it is bringing back old memories for me of the Glory years of the 1970’s. Memories in particular about great players like Bob Gainey (who I’ve criticized mucho of late), Rejean Houle, and a feisty Mario Trembley who deserve our continued respect.
I remember one brave poster saying he would punch Trembley in the face if he evermet him. Would love for this guy to be given that opportunity and to be @ the scene (even considering Trembley’s current age) shortly afterwards and watching this guy being scraped off the pavement.
I would swap Moen with Lebanc. As it is, the third line is too small. I’d also play Emelin with Subban and Gorges with Kaberle.
FYI TSN tonight is carrying Czech game, chance to watch Prybl.
I read that ee got hurt, and is out for the tournament.
Qui est “ee”?
I just realized that now, that sucks!
What happened? I can’t find news on this.
He is no longer on their roster for the World Jr’s, I now seem to recall hearing he got hurt. Still looking for details Jim, If I find will post. Where is Serious Fan when you need him!
Here is some news from the HFboards.
The Czech team showed up minus him and no replacement. The only comment I have seen, is them saying they were short on their roster due to injuries. So they are short a forward for the tournament roster.
Sorry, he was with them for the exhibition games prior to tournament start. Must have been hurt then.
@HiB and HabFab
Thanks for the info guys.
The poll is not comprehensive. There are other names that are not on the list which could/should be considered.
Agreed, where is Mario Tremblay’s name. Maybe even Chantel MacAbee.
Such as we already have a coach and it’s not fair to him to even have this poll in the first place….
This comment went in the wrong place…..
I have been trying for 4 years to be the first to comment and haven’t succeeded yet. What was your secret.
First time being first to comment. Not as glamorous as I had imagined. Where’s my congratulatory (leftover) turkey?
Well done Habitoba, perhaps purchasing a lottery ticket would be in order now. Take advantage of your current good fortune.
The time I got in with the first comment, I got a snarky comment from Boone.
Beats a kick in the groin… though not by much. 🙂
But not as funny as Football in the groin, that always gets a laugh….
How about a soccer ball in the groin – Especially when there is a free kick/penalty shot awarded in soceer/football & a wall of players is put in place to block and the players put one hand or two (depending of size ?) over their respective lower middle section……
Poor ol’ Moleman and George C. Scott.
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