Liveblog: Senators 5 – Canadiens 2

Canadian Tire Centre

Takeaways:

• Nathan Beaulieu did not looked out of place. But the only youngsters with a shot to make the team are Jarred Tinordi (the only Canadien to play all six exhibition games) and Michaël Bournival.

• The EGG line (Eller, Gallagher and Galchenyuk) lookedout of sorts … and not at all like three guys who will be the second wave of the power play this season. Two penalties each for Eller and Galchenyuk. The Gs combined for ZERO shots on goal. And Eller was 2-10 in the faceoff circle.

• Good for Ryan White, who hung in gamely with ferocious Chris Neil and was ready to go with massive Matt Kassian. White had 27 PiM.

• In three preseason losses to Atlantic Division rivals, the Canadiens have been outscored 16-9

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Kevin Allen of USA Today has the Canadiens finishing fourth in the Atlantic Division, behind Boston, Detroit and … Noooo! … Toronto.

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From Maritime Ronn:

Danny Kristo sent down to Rangers affiliate Hartford Wolf Pack.

Sather should have no worries until January:

Historical Hartford Snow Fall History:
5.8 days in January – 12.3 inches total.
4.7 days in February – 11.0 inches total

December may become an issue, as overnight lows average below freezing at 21.3F with snow possibilities.

 

588 Comments

  1. frontenac1 says:

    Whitey is playing good positional hockey now too. He almost popped one in from the slot last night.

  2. sCOTT1243 says:

    I don’t understand what the organization sees that I am not seeing…

    – Moen is done.
    – Blunden is NOT an NHLer. Stays along the boards and doesnt do much else.
    – White is white, I dont mind him, good skater, will stick up for his teamates, but god does he need a haircut.

    Bournival welcome to the show, Moen adios amigos!

    • krob1000 says:

      Both are pros…..they do what needs to be done, both are physical, both can skate, both are intelligent and both are coaches players who play within a system and don’t make mistakes. Moen’s contract is an issue but I am not sure Bournival has done enough to supplant he or White. Bournival could probably make the roster…but does he sit? do you play him top minutes in Hamilton and hopefully he can earn a bigger role next year? Is it beneficial to have him on a 4th line? There are already 13 forwards without Blunden or Bournival…tough, tough call

    • habstrinifan says:

      Eating crow on Blunden here. Man on Man his game has gone south fast. Wonder why? Hope he’s not one of those we trade only to see him find his game elsewhere. But dont see him in habs future.

    • Kooch7800 says:

      Moen has been playing just fine in the pre-season. He is physically engaged and is good defensively. He isn’t here to score goals. Blunden is a journeyman AHL’er and will be back in the hammer this year.

      White is on the team. Bournival might make the team for a few games but when Parros is healthy it think he will be back in Hamilton. If he continues his good play he will be a top call up for a forward injury

      “Keep your stick on the Ice”

    • habs-fan-84 says:

      I’m not sure what YOU’RE seeing, but Moen has looked good all pre-season. Also, White’s hair is his own business – it looks awesome.

    • Moen and White are just fine on the fourth line and killing penalties, and as for Blunden, if you need to call up a fourth-line plugger, he might as well be tough and reasonably responsible defensively. You’re not going to put a top prospect on a six-minute line with Moen and White.


      “Until we get an apology we’re not going to win a game. We vow not to win until we get an apology from Bettman.” -Sabre Dixon Ward

  3. frontenac1 says:

    So what’s the scoop on Murray? How did he look? What is his injury? I missed the first few games.

    • Kooch7800 says:

      He was eating pancakes with Dustin Penner’s wife…..

      I think he is supposed to be back for the first game….but they haven’t said any updates. He didn’t look great in his first preseason game

      “Keep your stick on the Ice”

      • Ron says:

        He might have been injured in practice hence his first game was not pretty.

        • Kooch7800 says:

          I hope he is back in quickly. We need his physicality. My fear with Tinordi is all of the goons will be all over him and he is still quite young. He did well against Gleason who is no slouch but It would be nice to have a Vet physical D man out there to take some of the heat and Murray is a tough cookie. Can’t wait for Emelin to get back. We might have quite the highlight real of hits after this season.

          I remember the habs did one on their website last year and it was sad as 90% of the hits were Emelin and Subban with a couple from Bourque and that was it

          “Keep your stick on the Ice”

  4. krob1000 says:

    Too bad there are so many palyers at camp. Bournival looks like the real deal….I can’t help but wonder if he doesn’t deserve Blunden’s spot. Ryan White IMO is much needed. I guess the decision comes down to keeping Blunden, Bournival or Dumont in the pressbox and with the big club or are they better served in more important roles in Hamilton.

    • Luke says:

      Blunden is awful.

      He’s like Moen but with out the sizzle, toughness or skillZ.

      That said… I’d rather Blunden waste away in the NHL press box than have Bournival there, watching. Bournival playing important minutes in Hamilton is better for both him and Hamilton.

      • krob1000 says:

        Acutally Blunden is not awful…he is just very plain…he does nothing wrong out there though and you can see why coaches like him. He plays as simple as possible and in a pinch you can rely on him to try and kill a clock and play even hockey. HE isn;t going to hurt a team out there…won’t help it much either but as a depth guy he is serviceable. He is pretty smart….and one of the few forwards who confronts an opposing player with a ful head of steam…

        • habstrinifan says:

          He used to hit and take his man out of the play much better… dont know why the drop off.

        • Luke says:

          You’re right. “Awful” is the wrong term. He’s NHL awful… he’s certainly better than I am! And in the top 2000 in the world.

          He’s such a marginal, replaceable faceless NHLer that fills out the bottom of all depth charts. We only know him because he’s a Hab. If he was a Minnesota player he’d be Jake Dowell. (with less offense).

        • Totally agree, krob. He’s a stopgap fourth-line plug when injuries strike, and every team needs a guy or two like that.


          “Until we get an apology we’re not going to win a game. We vow not to win until we get an apology from Bettman.” -Sabre Dixon Ward

    • Kooch7800 says:

      Dumont hasn’t impressed me this year. Last season in the AHL he was the best forward for the bulldogs…I haven’t seen that same player in the preseason.

      Bournival will get some NHL games this year when there are injuries but I don’t see him taking anyones job. Having him in the pressbox doesn’t really help anyone. Just my thoughts though.

      He is playing well

      “Keep your stick on the Ice”

  5. frontenac1 says:

    Whitey needs the long hair for mojo amigos. It’s a Samson thing. Saludos!

    • Kooch7800 says:

      He didn’t look like Samson against Neil. he looked like he was holding on for dear life. Could have been worse though….could have stood back and started slashing him

      “Keep your stick on the Ice”

      • Eddie says:

        White standing up to Neil solidified his position on this team. That was a big moment for White, I thought. That’s his game. Take away the intimidation from the other team and hit people on the forecheck.

        • krob1000 says:

          I was proud of him too….he went right after him…Moen tried to intervene but White wouldn’t let him. Ottawa was not at all intimidating…Tarnasky was there to keep Kassian in check and WHite took NEil. When the HAbs dress Parros, Murray, PRust White and/or Moen it will be a complete reveral of last year. Kassian tried to goad Tinordi in and even Neil had some words for him….pretty important that White stood up to him. White is not in the heavyweight class but he doesn’t hesitate if need be…he wouldn;t look for trouble with Neil but if it comes down to someone else or him….he would not even consider letting someone further down the pecking order having to fight him.

          • Un Canadien errant says:

            In a very real sense, he wanted it more. It’s like they were both trying to pick up the check at the restaurant. Both made polite noises and gestures, but somehow Ryan ended up with it.

        • Kooch7800 says:

          I have always liked white but last season he lost control of his emotions but he is def a player on this team that is needed. He can actually play hockey as well

          “Keep your stick on the Ice”

      • Ron says:

        Neil is as tough as they come. He has taken on most every heavy weight and came out the best in most cases. White is far from a heavy weight and for him just to engage Neil (whether he held on or not, Neil did the same) shows well for him. The same goes for his dosey doe with Kassian in the 3rd even brings out the game MT expects of him. He instigated the Neil confrontation not shied away from it. As Eddie is saying his actions last night solidified a spot for him.

  6. JohnBellyful says:

    Didn’t watch the game last night, for which I am thankful, judging by the comments posted, so what follows will contribute nothing in the way of insight as to what the Canadiens need to do to prepare for the season.
    If you start scrolling now I won’t be offended.

    Just the two of us, uh?
    What’s that, your computer locked up? I hate when that happens.
    Okay, I’ll try to keep it short (and will you quit rolling the mouse wheel; your computer’s locked, for pete’s sake): Actually, I have a question for you (and, gawd, I hope you’re one of the hockey experts on this site; otherwise, I might have to go to EOTP to get some answers).
    Here’s what I want to know: Does the league keep statistics on players being fouled, the ones who draw the penalties?
    You know, does it note who it is that gets hooked, tripped, roughed up, elbowed, boarded, held, cross-checked, high-sticked, interfered with, slashed, head-butted, kneed, checked in the head or speared – do they have stats for that?
    Because I think it would be interesting, maybe even helpful, if teams – and fans – knew how many penalties players draw that give their team an enhanced opportunity to score.
    For example, Craig Biggio got hit 285 times by a pitch during his major league career, Don Baylor 267, Ron Hunt 243 and Frank Robinson 198. I wonder how many times they ended up scoring, or drove in a run if the bases were loaded when it happened?
    If the NHL doesn’t collect that kind of data, it should. Wouldn’t you like to know that, say, Plekanec, in addition to scoring 17 goals and 35 assists in 2011-12, also was hooked five times, tripped four times, roughed up twice, elbowed three times, boarded four times, held once, cross-checked five times, high-sticked four times, interfered with once, slashed seven times, head-butted never, kneed once, checked in the head twice and speared once. That’s 40 times he put his team on the power-play (or nullified a power play by the other side), leading to 10 goals his team scored while playing with the man advantage.
    (Conversely, does the league document how many times the opposition scores while a player is serving a penalty? You would need to balance the data collected.)
    I would be most interested to learn who in the league draws the most penalties each season. Either this guy is good, is incredibly annoying to opponents, or has a real knack for selling a ‘foul’ to a ref.
    In any event, that player and other ‘victims’ in the top 20 should be recognized.
    Who knows, it might also point to certain prevailing prejudices, if the figures show the majority of those on the receiving end happen to be European, or under six foot, or centres, or ugly, in which case the league should do something to put an end to the discrimination.
    BTW, would it be possible for someone to be assessed a triple minor for kneeing Desharnais in the head and send him crashing into the boards?

    • Cardiac says:

      I’m not sure of the source of their data, but here is an article on the top penalty drawers in the league post-lockout. Dustin Brown is in a class of his own…

      http://www.arcticicehockey.com/2012/2/14/2792375/stu-hackel-week-on-arctic-ice-hockey-penalties-drawn-aka-stats-the

      “There’s genius everywhere, but until they turn pro, it’s like popcorn in the pan. Some pop… some don’t.”
      – Jerry Maguire

      • JohnBellyful says:

        So they do keep stats on this stuff! Thanks for pointing me to this article.
        I guess I shoulda Googled before posting. I feel like a deadbeat.
        Do they keep stats on icings, who does it, how many times does the other team score after winning the faceoffs … ?
        I’m gonna look that up.

    • Un Canadien errant says:

      I know you’re spitballing, but I have to sternly rebuke you on your fuzzy logic.

      1) Conversely, does the league document how many times the opposition scores while a player is serving a penalty? You would need to balance the data collected.

      Actually, the likelihood of a a goal being scored during a powerplay depends on chance, not which player is in the box serving the penalty.

      …unless the dude is a stalwart defender or ferocious forechecker who plays on the first-wave of the penalty kill, in which case the outcome would not be random. The powerplay team has an added advantage. So maybe not so random. Okay, so I’ll grant you that one.

      B) Either this guy is good, is incredibly annoying to opponents, or has a real knack for selling a ‘foul’ to a ref.

      Sure that the players who draw the most penalties must be pests or divers? How about the skilled players who are always a threat to score a goal? I remember Guy Lafleur being hooked and tripped lots.

      …which is probably what you meant when you wrote that the “guy is good”, which I guess I missed on my first cursory reading.

      Okay, looks like you’re ready to move on to another site, advanced stats await you.

      • JohnBellyful says:

        A.) My point here, is how many times has it happened when Player A was serving a penalty that the other team scored, versus how many times did he draw a penalty, resulting in a power play goal by his team.
        For example, Player A (and I apologize for singling out A cuz I think he’s a good player) was assessed 29 penalties in a season, during which time his team yielded three goals; during the same season, he drew 24 penalties, which resulted in four powerplay goals, so he’s +1.
        I don’t know how ‘esoteria’ of this sort this would factor into contract negotiations or an arbitrator’s decision but I’m sure such a parcel of statistical information could be harvested for a few commentaries.

  7. jols101 says:

    As per TSN, Franson has signed with the Leafs. 1 year 2 million.

  8. mksness says:

    Man bobby ryan is a talented player. i know a lot of people bash the trade due to what they had to give up but he’s a stud and has one hell of a shot. this guy might put in 40 goals this year with spezza.

    i haven’t watched too much of the pre season but for all the people saying eller will be our first line centre at some point this year need to chillax a bit. from what i have seen he hasn’t look all that great, good at times but to say he’s gonna be a first line guy is a bit of a stretch

    • Maritime Ronn says:

      You’re right about Bobby Ryan and unfortunately we’ll be seeing a lot of him.
      He was a consistent +30 goal guy with Anaheim and unlucky for him is that he played behind Cory Perry/Selanne – meaning most of the time, he had only 2nd Unit PP time.
      He’s going to make Ottawa fans quickly forget about Alfredsson.

    • 100HABS says:

      Eller is a veteran now. You can’t judge a veteran on pre-season play. Gamers can only turn it on when it counts.

      I expect great things from that line when it gets real.

      • habstrinifan says:

        Kinda strange logic. The Eller Galchenyuk Gallagher line better start cooordinating better if they wish to stay together and if Gallagher is to repeat his marvelous first year. Right now they are all skaiting without purpose .. Gallagher is still fiesty but he has to re-insert the point producing focus in his game.

    • Phil C says:

      The Sens had stockpiled a lot of good prospects. Even with a trade, they are probably going to lose some guys on waivers. So the Ryan trade was perfect in that they traded quantity for quality. You can’t keep all your prospects, so might as well trade them for an impact player. May be in a couple of years, Montreal will be in the same situation. It’s already looking like a logjam on defense.

      • Maritime Ronn says:

        Phil
        Perfectly said
        Habs may be there in a year or 2

      • Un Canadien errant says:

        Generally that makes sense. I would just question the likelihood that they can sign American-born Bobby Ryan who played in Southern California for years, and whose girlfriend asked when the trade was announced if they were going somewhere north of Detroit, to a long-term deal in small-time Ottawa. If he had been locked up, instead of two years from his UFA status, I’d like the trade better.

        http://www.capgeek.com/player/314

        • Maritime Ronn says:

          That’s a good point yet you would have to believe that Murray had some kind of feel for the situation or had an indirect chat with the agent.
          Winning would also help.

          • Un Canadien errant says:

            Phil had a good explanation of how this trade happened, how you can’t have too many prospects in your system with the 50 contract limit and waiver statuses, but it appears a big reason for the initiation of trade talks was to ‘go for it’ in Daniel Alfredsson’s putative final season. In the post-mortem of the the captain’s decision to sign with Detroit, Bryan Murray explained that they were dangling the possibility of acquiring Bobby Ryan as bait to get Alfie to re-sign. So they may have been long-running talks in which some back-channel assurances were sought, but you also get the sense that the trigger was pulled only after they lost Mr. Alfredsson, a bit of a knee-jerk reaction to quell the fans’ anger.

            I like Bobby Ryan and love his couple of YouTube goals, but for our sake I hope he’s disgruntling right now, Dany Heatly-style.

  9. Maritime Ronn says:

    Was watching the annual Leafs ‘meet the season ticket holders Q&A’ with Dave Nonis.

    Very interesting to hear different philosophies compared to what Habs fans have heard over the years.
    There is no ‘who’s right or wrong’ – just the different positions.

    1) Why the trade for Bernier?
    ” It is our belief that when you are a young player – and a young player has his job solidified, he is NOT nearly as good as one who has another guy trying to take it”

    The Leafs felt that even though 25 year old Reimer who has a career 53-32-14 record on some very bad Leafs teams over the past 3 years – who also posted a .924 SP during the past season, (7th best in the NHL-3rd best was .929) and a .923 SP in last year’s tough 7 game loss to the Bruins…that he needs more internal competition?
    Interesting…

    The cost to acquire Bernier – a former 1st Round/11th overall pick in 2006… was a 2nd Round pick, the back up goalie (Scrivens) and 25 year old probable AHL forward Matt Frattin along with retaining $500K in salary.

    If you were Bergevin, would you have done the deal?

    2) Will 19 year old Dman Morgan Rielly start with the Leafs?
    ” Morgan Reilly is ready to take a job. If Randy feels he can play a meaningful role of 12-14 minutes per night – not every night, then he will stay.”

    While Morgan Rielly and Jared Tinordi play 2 opposite end styles of games, Nonis has no problem keeping him with the big team.

    Tinordi: 21 years old-67 AHL games-13 NHL games (5 playoff)
    Rielly: 19 years old-14 AHL games-ZERO NHL experience

    http://www.hockeybuzz.com/blog/Mike-Augello/Nonis-Leiweke-Preview-Season-Roster-Decisions-Imminent-For-Leafs/120/54253#.UkQELveNTIU

    • savethepuck says:

      First of all, I saw your post yesterday regarding Detroit, and not agreeing with the experts who have them as a top team in our division. I totally agree. I have no idea why they are being anointed as an elite team in the Atlantic division. For the past few seasons, they have been a bubble team in the West. I think it is because they have been a consistent playoff team since the 90’s. Secondly, what is with the love for Reimer, and why does it always end up being a subtle dis on Carey when you are reporting his stats? 29 out of 30 GM’s would take Price over Reimer, actually 30 out of 30 because even Nonis went out to get Bernier.

      “They don’t hang Conference Championship Banners from the rafters here”
      Carey Price

      • Maritime Ronn says:

        No dis on Carey.

        Nonis went out to get Bernier because of his quote:
        ” It is our belief that when you are a young player – and a young player has his job solidified, he is NOT nearly as good as one who has another guy TRYING to TAKE it”

        It appears they believe in “internal competition” when a young guy has NOT proven by Performance that he can take it to the next level.

        The question was simple.
        If you were Bergevin, would you have done the deal…and a follow up questions would be:
        Would Carey be a better, more consistent goalie IF he had someone knocking on his door?
        Would he reach that next level we are all awaiting with better internal competition?

        • savethepuck says:

          Some people think he’s fine and only had a rough end to last season, like the team as a whole did. If you are anything like me, you watch every Habs game, so it is much easier to pick apart a guy you see play 60 plus games than a guy you see play a handful of games a year and see his stats.
          No offense Ron, I read all of your posts along with everybody else’s on here, and whether you know it or not, there is a consistent ” subtle” dis on Carey in many of them. I have no problem with it, it is your opinion.
          On another matter, where you in Montreal Super Bowl weekend in 2012?

          “They don’t hang Conference Championship Banners from the rafters here”
          Carey Price

          • Maritime Ronn says:

            Hi puck

            In Montreal for superbowl 2012?
            Nope, was right here as always with the other crazies.

            No subtle dis on Carey.
            From here, it has always been stated a lack of performance that doesn’t match his perceived potential.

            The only thing I hope that he finds it under Stephan Waite
            If not, we are in deep deep trouble and the Carey Love Affair may have problems this year if he ramins in the bottom tier of SP and GAA

    • Cal says:

      1. I’m a believer in competition for spots on the team, especially for goalie. Giving Reimer a reason to focus more is a good, but costly, idea.
      If the Habs could have pried Bernier out from LA to give Price some competition, I wouldn’t have minded too much.
      As is, Budaj is in Montreal for one last season. Tokarski should push Price next season, and that’s a good thing.

      2. Toronto has effed up so many young Dmen, it would be wiser for that team to give Reilly another year in the CHL, then one in the AHL before bringing him up to the big team.

      • Maritime Ronn says:

        Cal
        I’m with you on the Rielly thing unless he is some kind of Paul Coffey 2nd coming
        They would be out of their minds to start him on the big team – although they would have 10 games to figure it out then send him back to junior

    • Dust says:

      Frattin is not an ahl forward. He is an nhl caliber 3rd liner for sure and most likely will play on the kings 2nd line to start the year

  10. Eddie says:

    when there’s no Subban or Markov to control the puck and move it quickly and effectively to a forward in stride, the forwards will always look bad, disorganized, and out played by the other team.

    I saw some very good moments last night, but somehow they got lost in the recap of the game.

    Like when Eller turned up the ice with speed, he broke away from everyone at 215 lbs and made an excellent decision to pass off the puck leading to the goal.

    I saw Gallagher on the forecheck nail Karllson and force a stupid retaliation penalty from the “great” defenceman.

    I saw Galchenyuk struggle to find his game – he wants to carry the puck like a center and that is Eller’s role on that line. Galchenyuk is fantastic on the rush carrying the puck through the neutral zone with speed and then making the defenceman miss at the blue line, opening time and space for a scoring chance.

    Of course, if he doesn’t get the pass from the d-men on the breakout because he’s playing with AHL defencemen, and if Eller is at center, then Galchenyuk’s game needs to adjust accordingly. I’m sure we will see a huge jump in his intensity once the real season starts.

    • Ozmodiar says:

      Exactly right. The transition game is a 5 man attack, and it just wasn’t there last night, for obvious reasons.

      I liked the look of Eller and Gally, despite the fact that it isn’t really clicking yet.

      Galchenyuk… hmmm… he looked a bit lost out there. I’d like to see a bit more of a physical presence from him, but I’m not holding my breath. That’s okay, though. It’s not the reason he’s been successful.

  11. HabinBurlington says:

    Considering that was Beaulieu’s first game (I think) of the preseason, he showed some glimmers of that offensive upside he carries. His ability to skate with the puck and shake off the defenders is a talent no one else dressed last night on the blue line could do.

    Virtually a lock he starts in the Hammer this season, but I wouldn’t be surprised if by trade deadline he is ready to make a jump up.

    • Eddie says:

      When you’re in Hamilton you could watch Beaulieu in the defensive zone when he does NOT have the puck. That seems to be his last hurdle he must overcome before he can jump to the NHL.

      • savethepuck says:

        Similar to PK Subban when he first came to Hamilton?

        “They don’t hang Conference Championship Banners from the rafters here”
        Carey Price

        • Eddie says:

          not really. Subban made some questionable decisions with the puck, but he was terrific without the puck. that’s why he’s a great penalty killer. great anticipation and reads the play as well as anyone in the game.

  12. DipsyDoodler says:

    So Prust has fought three times already and gotten himself injured in the process.

    Now I like Brandon Prust and think he’s a good hockey player, even though I don’t think he should be captain, as our displaced Leaf fans have suggested, but is that smart? We sometimes say Ryan White’s a bit thick but is Prustie maybe not all there?

    • HabinBurlington says:

      Guessing here, but I think in order for Prust to be effective and play well, he knows only one way to play on the ice. In that regard he plays his role whenever on the ice. I’m not sure Prust knows how to play his game when you take away the physical aspect of his game.

      Perhaps MT should just keep him out of the remaining preseason games. I don’t think to call him thick is accurate or fair to him, but rather he plays 100% whenever on the ice.

  13. Maritime Ronn says:

    Good Morning

    Only caught some highlights.
    Saw the Ryan White fight, and what’s up with the hair?
    When he’s out of hockey, he can easily be a stand in for former Guns N’ Roses lead guitarist Slash.

    The outcome of the game itself was predetermined by the team lineups.
    Surprised the score, which really meant nothing, was that close.
    When the Habs dress only 2 guys that have over 100 NHL games under their belt (Eller-Moen) you know you’re in for a long evening.
    Even for an exhibition game, that was as close as a ‘throw away’ game as you can get.

    Watched the Coach Therrien post game presser and he basically stated the plan was to play as many of the young guys as possible and to allow them the opportunity to play against an NHL up tempo team in a visiting team capacity.
    He mentioned that type of experience is a way to show the young guys how close, yet more likely how far away they are from the NHL, and what they need to work on.

    • DuckDodgers says:

      Hiya Merrytimes. Truly an evaluation game with specific focus on depth guys like Holland/St. Pierre/Bournival/Pateryn and exposure for Dietz. Hard to say if Nygren is in the depth or prospect category. Tune-up game for Diaz/Moen/Eller/Gallys1and 2/White/Tinordi. Galchenyuk did not look like, say, a Bobby Ryan.

      “May you live in interesting times.”

      • Maritime Ronn says:

        Sam
        I have to say when I saw the Avatar I had a good chuckle. A classic!
        Did you name the duck yet? If not, what about these?
        Shnookie, Pistachio, Chi-Chi, Smudge, Keir, Skviki, Soot, Guster

      • Bim says:

        I think Habs have another great defenceman in Dietz. I like the style of game he plays, somewhat offensive minded. He has size too which is great. He obviously needs to work on his defensive game as guys were just blowing by him all night especially on Bobby Ryans goal. He’s still looking for his jockstrap. He needs to learn the players in the NHL and give himself a little more time and space to turn when guys are bearing down on him. There in lies the difference between junior and the NHL. He’ll make it in a couple of years. I can’t wait to see their defence then with Beaulieu, Dietz, PK, Tinordi. Its going to be great!

    • mksness says:

      just a note slash has curly black hair and wears a tope hat. not really the style white has :-p and he hasn’t been in GNR for like 10 years…
      :-p

  14. JUST ME says:

    We have witnessed a definite difference between kids and men didn`t we ? And not only yesterday but everytime the vets had a day off. But it did serve a purpose. I like that feeling to know that in the farm team there are strong players almost better than the regular ones just getting ready to graduate.

    So be it if everyone is sent in Hamilton cause they will only get better with time as long as they get ice time .
    We have seen Blunden for the last time in the NHL with MTL. He probably will be usefull with the Bulldogs but when a player is called up ,he fell behind many kids . Figure him to be in a deal later this season.
    I really like Beaulieu. He will benefit from a season in Hamilton but this guy has moves and is of NHL caliber. I see him paired to a stay at home d-man and it would make for a well balanced duo.

    Tinordi had a very good camp but am not sure if he can handle 82 games at the same rythm. He has the body but lacks experience. Still i would give him a chance so would i with Bournival.

    Heard on TSN that the Sens team from yesterday had something like 2300 games of NHL experience while MTL`s has 99….

    Why do i feel that this season we should shout at the begining of every game : let`s get ready to rumbllllllleeeeeee…

    • savethepuck says:

      The year the Habs finished last in the East and got Galchenyuk ( which was a great thing) they had regulars in the lineup comprised of Aaron Palusaj, Michael Blundon, Louis LeBlanc and Blake Geoffrion due to numerous injuries.

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  15. Habitant in Surrey says:

    …I think all You Guyz and Mike pretty well have said everything what I was going to say, so I won’t bother

  16. savethepuck says:

    I have noticed a lot of negativity towards the line of Eller, Gally and Chucky. Tonight they were basically our only NHL line against a Sens squad that was probably icing close to their opening night lineup. I am assuming that “The Walrus” with last change, was matching lines and was putting his best against them all night. Despite that, Eller ended up even with an assist, Gally ended up even with no points, and Chucky ended up +1 with no points. I know that it may be expected that since they were our only real line, they are supposed to pot 2 or 3 goals, but that may be a little unrealistic. I am sure they will get more favorable matchups in the regular season when the other 2 lines are DD, MaxP and Briere along with Plex, Gio, and Bourque. Considering the Habs lost 5-2, the fact that none of them had a negative +/- tells me they may not of been as bad as some may think.

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  17. HammerHab says:

    Okay gimme a go at this….

    Pacioretty-Desharnais-Gallagher
    Bourque-Plekanec-Gionta
    Prust-Galchenyuk-Briere
    Moen-Eller-White/Parros

    How’d I do? I love that 3rd line….

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    • savethepuck says:

      People need to get over it. DD, MaxP, and Briere will be a line guaranteed. They have been together since day 1 of training camp. If some of you look objectively, instead of rearing the dislike for DD and/or Briere, they have looked impressive on the PP in the preseason at the least.

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    • Landof10000lakesHab says:

      Prust is capable of moving up to a 3rd line, but belongs on the 4th if forward group is healthy.

      Galchenyuk will eventually be centre, but not yet / full time this year.

      Briere will start the season with Max & DD as MT has stated.

      Eller was best Habs forward month prior to playoffs – 4th line – really?

      You got the 2nd line right. Who knows, if we start the season 0-5, MT might try anything..

  18. Timo says:

    Watched first 2 periods and skipped through the most of the third.

    1. Habs gotta get rid of Diaz. Beaulieu looked fairly comfortable and not fazed at all. I liked his game.
    2. EGG line sucked, but it also appeared they didn’t spend the entire game together. But still sucked.
    3. Carey Price was awesome and his hair is as shiny as ever
    4. WTF did Moen get a game for? He was fighting some dude and White was fighting Neil… so why was Moen sent to the showers? Refereeing is pathetic even in pre-season.
    5. Eller’s should have been a goal… he turned his foot but there was no distinctive kicking motion. Refs suck.
    6. Anybody connected in some shape or form to Ottawa Senators sucks.
    7. Is there one fight where Tarnasky doesn’t fall?
    8. Did I mention I liked Beaulieu? I think he should be above Diaz on the depth chart and be first in line for a call up (I am assuming Tinordi is starting the season with the Habs.
    9. Krob should ask for his money back. The game was incredibly boring.
    10. #BlairONeal

    • Landof10000lakesHab says:

      Diaz is currently the Habs 4th best Dman, 5th best after Emelin returns. Markov will likely make him look even better.

      EGG was 1st line lst night – will play against 3rd liners this season.

      If Beaulieu is your new mancrush, it’s a huge step up from MAB. I think he will be top 4 on Habs D by late next season.

    • habstrinifan says:

      Same reaction re Moen’s penalty. Weird.

  19. krob1000 says:

    Back from the “game”….lol…thanks for the concern on here! Froma hockey perspective it was pretty tough watching the team struggle….but night was a success anyway. Boys still smiled, Sens fans were pretty friendly around us, littlest got the Sens girls to paint him up with go habs on his face, air castles, radar guns, bouncy slides, dirty poutine, popcorn a car ride and hockey….I was and still am disappointed about the lineup but any night out with the kids is a successful night and a night out with Habs jerseys on is a night to remember! Thanks again for the concern and would someone tell Galchenyuk the net is only 4ft tall….man that guy could be a fifty goal scorer if the net were 6 inches taller.

  20. habs1992 says:

    Nygren will NOT make the team, CONFIRMED.

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    • krob1000 says:

      The entire d corps looked lost whenever the Sens had the puck down low….Bobby Ryan fortunately was the only Sen who seemed to figure out if he just held onto the puck the Habs would skate by him….thank goodness or it could have been really ugly. From the hash marks down the Habs had no clue…they were occupying space but not even defending it…standing around like garden gnomes watching a game take place around them….felt for poor Budaj who may have actually been the best Hab despite the score.

    • Does your crystal ball’s range extend outside the realm of hockey? Like, can you tell me where Jimmy Hoffa is buried? Who really killed JFK? Is Timo MT’s illegitimate son? (okay, that last one was half within the realm of hockey)

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  21. habs1992 says:

    This already reminds me to much of the 2011-2012 season, when we got of a to a terrible start and preseason and then a terrible start the rest of the year, God help us. Might be a long year SIGH……….

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    • Timo says:

      It will be a long year. Michael Therrien’s second season won’t be as rosey. Problem is that Therrien is only good for preaching meritocracy at press conferences. When it comes to coaching (nevermind outcoaching) teams he is rather useless. Hopefully this will be he last year with Montreal Canadiens.

  22. Sportfan says:

    Wow that looked like a Brutal game, I missed it how was Nygren I saw he scored. Also with Parros out do you think N. Tarnasky will make it just to replace him for now?

    Also wth happened in the third with White?

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  23. jedimyrmidon says:

    Cool stat from tonight’s game:

    Defense NHL experience is
    – 2731 for the Sens
    – 99 for the Habs (Diaz accounts for 82 of those games)

  24. zorro says:

    Was at the game tonight. So damn glad the tickets were free. The EGG line was disappointing. Tarnasky and White feeding Neil the knuckles was worth the outing. Maybe a better result tomorrow, goodnight amigos.

  25. Feraco says:

    Tom Barasso came to the back looking for his Farrari

    LOL

  26. JO says:

    That’s why I wouldn’t be in any hurry to trade DD. Eller has proven so far with his time in the NHL. He’s a 3rd liner at best. Other than size. I would keep Bournival over him any day!!

    You wanted some trolling. You got it!!

  27. Mattyleg says:

    Man Krob1000 is gonna be piiiiiiiiisssed…

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  28. Danno says:

    PJ the genius wants to trade Plex

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  29. DDO_Habs_Fan says:

    No wonder Leblanc was pissed. Watching St. Pierre, Thomas and Holland…ugh. Thank god for Bournival…the only young forward that showed up improved from last year.

    BTW Tarnasky must be the second slowest after Murray. I thought I was having problems with my cable signal when he was skating…

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  30. JO says:

    I don’t pay much attention to pre-season. It’s to see what kids can make the big team if any. The kids are not bad. The EGG line is a no go. After the pre-season.

    These are the lines I would use in our 1st regular season game against Toronto where the points count.

    1st = Pacioretty Plekanec Briere
    2nd = Bourque Desharnais Gallagher
    3rd = Eller Galchenyuk Gionta
    4th – Moen White/Parros Prust

    “Gravatar”

    • Adidess says:

      I like those lines, except maybe # 2, which looks like a completely new experiment between DD and Bourque (if I’m not mistaken).

      In fact, the lineup you’re proposing would mean we start the season with line combinations that we didn’t try out even once in pre-season. I don’t know any coach who would do that, barring injuries or an unexpected trade.

      MT will likely start with the lines he’s used in pre-season or last year. Will only try new combinations such as the ones you mention if Habs are off to a poor start.

      • JO says:

        Adi – If I’m correct their pre-season has not been very successful. They say a change is as good as a rest. The lines they have right now is not working.
        Not to worry MT would never try those lines. They may work!!

  31. Danno says:

    Moen pile-on in progress on AC

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    • DDO_Habs_Fan says:

      Not sure if it was mentioned but Brunet destroyed Moen during the intermission. Basically said he was tough against 20 year olds but disappears against the real tough guys (“les vrais”).

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  32. Bill says:

    Nobody really impressed me tonight. Literally nobody. ANyone notice anything positive?

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  33. Danno says:

    PJ Stock on L’AntiCHambre needs a diaper on his head.

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  34. habs1992 says:

    Probably the worst game i have ever seen, good thing i had no dates planned for tonight. What a waste that would of been.

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  35. Storman says:

    Is there an app for getting these 2 & 1/2 hours back

    • johnnylarue says:

      iLobotomy is the only one I know of that comes close, unfortunately.

    • Adidess says:

      Haha. I sorta think if you watch the entire thing, you are to blame -) This is the type of game you put in the background while doing something else, like reading or surprising some distant relatives with a nice phone call. That game was not meant to be watched.

  36. durocher says:

    Beaulieu is a smooth skater, he will be a gem one day

  37. Adidess says:

    What, our kids’ lineup is losing 5-2 to Ottawa in pre-season? Bye bye Stanley Cup!

    Jokes aside though, Ottawa is apparently playing their kids tomorrow night against our A Team at the Bell Center (like we did tonight). We better do the same to them, like beat them 7-1 or something.

    It’s easy saying, ‘well it’s our bulldogs team playing the Sens tonight’. Will our A team be able to beat up on their Binghamton squad tomorrow?

  38. Danno says:

    Not one for the Habs Classic DVD Box Set

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  39. durocher says:

    Poor Beaulieu, he was all ready to crank that puck

  40. badbalance says:

    http://www.titiwebtv.com/chqc save that or the season guys that’s the stream I use and it’s best quality one I know of.

  41. punkster says:

    Cue the comeback

    Still SUBBANGIN’ BABY…
    but…
    ELLER IS STELLAR!!!

  42. Un Canadien errant says:

    The Eller lline has been buzzing around the Sens’ net, hit a couple of posts, just had another point blank shot on net, we’d feel better about that line if they’d buried one or two of their chances.

  43. Nina76 says:

    Terrible game tonight, BORING, time to fill up AHL with most of these guys.What the heck is wrong with Eller????? no goals in every game he has played. On to tomorrow nite more BEEF & Vets

    • Don’t be surprised if Eller is never the same again. That hit he took last spring is a life changing hit. Right now parts of is brain are trying to retrain itself to do the functions lost during the hit and recovery. Good for him just to be playing again. That was a horrible hit, and the effects of his head bouncing off the ice were just as bad.

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  44. JF says:

    I can’t watch any more of this – too painful and pointless. But I hope the game is conclusive for Therrien as regards the line of Eller, Galchenyuk, and Gallagher (I will NOT call them the EGG line). They look like rookies out there. All three of them need to play with veterans, at least to start the season.

  45. Danno says:

    Boo… Die!!!!

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  46. johnnylarue says:

    Anybody who thinks the CBC broadcast team is bad should spend an evening watching a Sens game on “Rogers TV”. Holy smokes…

    • JF says:

      I know. I’ve never heard such a bunch of blatant homers.

    • slyCH says:

      I found a stream that was excellent from that broadcast but I settled on the choppy RDS stream. I’d rather not watch unless it’s RDS.

    • Un Canadien errant says:

      I thought I’d switch back and forth between RDS and them, get a sense of how the Ottawa fans live, and couldn’t stand them for more than a minute or two at a time.

      Is there anything that Sportsnet does well? The Canucks broadcasts are barely tolerable, with every goal or penalty brought to you by Lazslo’s Rib Shack and Antiques, and Mrs. Patterson from 100 Mile House winning a baked ham because of it.

  47. twilighthours says:

    Lame: the blow kisses to the sky goal celebration. In pre season.

  48. Propwash says:

    I blame Carey.

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  49. slyCH says:

    My stream sucked as bad as the game so I bailed. Yeach…

  50. twilighthours says:

    I’ve seen just about enough of deitz for this year.

  51. J.Ambrose.OBrien says:

    Bournival is outplaying Galchenyuk.

    I remember Dec. 31, 1975

  52. Bill says:

    I am really liking Eller’s physical play this pre-season. He looks confident going after the puck and throwing his weight around.

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  53. Dickie9 says:

    Galchenyuk has looked brutal this pre-season…please don’t all jump down by throat it is just a statement…I know according to you all he is the next savior…just saying nothing impressive about him this pre-season…

  54. punkster says:

    Man, this is so boring we can’t even get an annoying troll in here tonight.

    Anybody want to volunteer to tear a strip off someone?

    Still SUBBANGIN’ BABY…
    but…
    ELLER IS STELLAR!!!

  55. Propwash says:

    Chucky is going to have to find a way to stay out of the box.

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  56. Mavid says:

    another bullshit call..he lost his footing..

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  57. Bill says:

    Carey Price ranked number 51 overall, number 5 among goalies in TSN’s Top 50 tonight. Goalies ranked ahead of him were Lundqvist, Quick, Rinne, and Bobrovsky.

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  58. Un Canadien errant says:

    It’s a little early to worry about the Eller line and start switching players around. Last season they had good chemistry and were flying. It’s going to be a long season, there will be ups and downs and injuries, lots of changes and adjustments will be necessary, but for now we should rely on the results they obtained late last season.

    ***Of course, I started typing this before the Galchenyuk penalty that was just awarded, and now the Corey Conacher goal. Now, I think we should trade ‘em all.

  59. Bill says:

    Some nights I make a conscious effort to close the laptop and stay off HIO so I can appreciate the game better.

    This is not one of those nights. What a boring game. I could get more entertainment out of watching Night Court reruns in Spanish.

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  60. Ian Cobb says:

    Not much hockey being played tonight, It looks like the 3rd take of slap shot out there.
    The coaches have already decided who is staying!

  61. ooder says:

    damn what a boring soules game

  62. Ian Cobb says:

    Penalties,?? Moen= game?
    Two Ottawa players =Game?
    White 2+5+10+?

    Maybe I just did not get it from the RDS boys.?

    Mike or anyone tell me.

  63. jols101 says:

    What are the odds that Kassian and Neil don’t goon it up in the 3rd?

    It could get ugly.

  64. ClutchNGrab says:

    I really feel bad for krob1000. 300$ is serious money for this.

    • johnnylarue says:

      I was thinking the same. I feel worse for the kids, actually. Intense boredom.

      I hope those Canadian Tire hotdogs are good…

      • Bill says:

        Whatever name they give it, that is one terrible building. I went to a game there and I felt like a Katrina refugee. Zero atmosphere, completely generic.

        I would say that the Bell Centre is also pretty generic, but at least it’s not in the middle of nowhere, and the fans bring it to life nicely.

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  65. durocher says:

    Put Gally11 up with DD and Max, and Briere with Eller and Gally27

  66. Un Canadien errant says:

    Michaël Bournival is a bust, can’t score twice this game.

  67. Bill says:

    AHL Habs can’t beat Senators AHL goalie.

    Could be another long year for the Bulldogs!

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  68. Kooch7800 says:

    Budaj is playing great. Too bad he is alone. I feel bad for Krob paying to see this.

    The Egg line looks awful

    “Keep your stick on the Ice”

  69. Mavid says:

    You make a good point about the hair..if you want to punch you have to be able to see..I am with you get a haircut whitey

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  70. twilighthours says:

    This game very much looks like a bunch of AHLers chasing around a bunch of NHLers

  71. DuckDodgers says:

    Memory lapse, forget Dudley s headband, Alfredsson s the bomb.

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  72. slapshot777 says:

    Considering the difference in NHL experience between the two teams the Habs have a bright future while Ottawa won’t have as good a year as people think they will

    To you from failing hands we throw the torch, be yours to hold it high.

  73. J.Ambrose.OBrien says:

    Looks like Grabovski is enjoying his new home. 3 assists tonight with the Caps!

    I remember Dec. 31, 1975

  74. twilighthours says:

    Pateryn hit Ryan from behind

  75. Mavid says:

    Moen out..so now we are down to 2 vets including Budaj?

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    • kerrgte says:

      … a waste of eyesight.

      Icing a team of rookies is silly. Rookies need a skilled veteran to take their cues from, and build plays from.

      In my skepticism, I’m wondering if MT is playing rookies to avoid potential injuries to his veterans.

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