Liveblog: Kings thump Devils 6-1, win Cup

Quick

Game 6 turned on a major penalty to New Jersey’s Steve Bernier.
The Kings scored three times during their five-minute power play, and that was the ballgame.
The Devils began a parade to the penalty box and never got any traction in the game.
Jeff Carter and Trevor Lewis scored twice, while Dustin Brown scored the game’s first goal and Matt Greene added a late one for the Cup champions..
Adam Henrique spoiled Jonathan Quick’s shutout bid.

The Kings, who won the franchise’s first Cup, should be good for a while.

The Western Conference’s eighth seed went 16-4 in the playoffs.

They have youth at all the key positions: Quick, the Conn Smythe Trophy winner; the brilliant Drew Doughty, Anze Kopitar and Dustin Brown.

General manager Dean Lombardi has done a masterful job of putting his roster together.

That’s it for hockey until September.

And with the CBA expiring, September of what year?

1,029 Comments

  1. petefleet says:

    Right or wrong, here’s how I see the line up stacking up at the start of the season:
    67 51 72
    27 14 21
    ? 81 32
    25 ? ?

    76 26
    74 79
    61 ?

    Price
    Budaj

    The only real holes are a 4th line centre and a 3rd line LW. I don’t see LL or White filling those spots yet. I thought Blunden played well for us last year but not sure if he’ll be back. LL should stay in AHL this year and I’m not feeling any love for White.

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    • HabinBurlington says:

      I believe White will be better this year. He battled that sports hernia injury all off season and came into camp and pretty much immediately had to get surgery. He like Leblanc and Eller didn’t get to use the off season training like they needed to because of injuries.

      I am hopeful that all 3 of these guys benefit from a summer of training and rest as opposed to rehab. The same goes for Markov, as he has hopefully been able to do strength training in the offseason. Optimistic, Yes, but these athletes really need a successful off season to prepare for the rigours of the reg. season.

    • Habfan10912 says:

      Morning Pete. Doesn’t exactly strike fear in the hearts of opponents, does it? Much work to do that’s for sure. I don’t think I can take another year of the tank debate.

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      • petefleet says:

        Mornin’

        No it doesn’t. The core seems intact, it’s the rest that needs work. Unfortunately, it’s the circle around the core that makes a team sink or swim. This year’s cup final is a perfect example, both teams had great support for the core of their respective teams. These guys also seems to be the hardest roles to fill because alot of the time their strengths are their intangables.
        It will be interesting to see how MB fills these roles and / or makes new ones.

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  2. 24 Cups says:

    Crosby signs for ten years, 90M? Hot rumour of the day.

    New Jersey has decided to keep their 1st round pick for this year meaning that Montreal selects 33rd.

    • HabinBurlington says:

      I thought TSN had announced their decision to give it up this year. Seems odd to keep it this year given their draft position. Perhaps the ownership/financial issues are so grave in Jersey that they want the pick to help make the franchise look better with a for sale sign on it? :)

  3. commandant says:

    Lefebvre will be a good coach for the Bulldogs. Has assistant coach experience in the NHL, and will be a good mentor for the huge influx of young Dmen in the system.

    What happens to Clement Jodoin? He was an assistant for Therrien before

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  4. Hamayoune says:

    A random trade possibility jumped to my mind.

    In case Habs draft Galchenyuk and he’s ready to make the jump to NHL next year, what do you think about this trade.

    Plecky, Rene Bourque and a draft pick for Byfuglien.

    Our top 3 lines lines could be:
    Gio-Galchenyuk-Byfuglien
    Pacio-Desharnais-Cole
    Gallagher-Eller-Leblanc

    There are lots IFs but if it happens, it’d be amazing!

    • ProHabs says:

      Always like Byfuglien and if was really hoping Montreal would get him from Chicago 2 years ago but with Gauthier GM I was wasting my time in hoping.

      Having said that Byfuglien is more a defenceman than a forward. I really don’t see him as a first line forward at all. Also, he likes the booze and I think he has a courtcase upcoming which the Habs wouldn’t like. His work ethic has been questioned and after seeing Gomez and Bourque float around, I don’t think another lazy player would be good. Giving up PLeky and not gettting a solid forward back would hurt the team.

      I say no deal but what do I know.

    • habstrinifan says:

      Too much?

  5. Dryden_29 says:

    Sylvain Lefebre hired as Hamilton’s coach…anyone else hear this?

  6. Mattyleg says:

    1,001.
    Dalmatians, or posts?

    —Hope Springs Eternal—

  7. DorvalTony says:

    Sign Larry Robinson immediately.

    “Hi, this is P.J. Stock for Depends.”

  8. Psycho29 says:

    On the subject of ‘fighters’, Teofilo Stevenson, winner of 3 Heavyweight Olympic boxing gold medals including Montreal (I was there at the finals), has died of a heart attack at 60.

  9. HabFanSince72 says:

    I don’t know about the rest of you but I want Rene Bourque off this team. He’s my least Favourite Hab of the last 5 years. Disgrace to the uniform

    In fact I’d take AK46 over him.


    Ever tried. Ever failed. No matter. Try again. Fail again. Fail better.

    • HabinBurlington says:

      He was frustrating to watch last season but he did come into a pretty dysfunctional organization. If Therrien can get him going that would be impressive, trying to keep glass half full heading into the season.

    • Steven says:

      Give the guy 10 games this season at least before you throw him off the team. If by some miracle he can get it back together, he’s a total asset.

    • Bill says:

      My least favourite Hab since Donald Audette, whom he reminds me of a lot.

      I would take AK46 over him every day of the week.

      Some would say he didn’t have much of a chance because he was new and the whole situation was bad. But the thing is, he basically just played like he always has. Minus the goals.

      Full Breezer 4 Life

    • Un Canadien errant says:

      I have to disagree. I’ve posted on this subject before, we’re bereft of legitimate NHL’ers as it is, we can’t start a fire sale on those we have. Let’s worry about the holes on the roster, the players we don’t have, before we run those that we do out of town.

      http://relentlessineptitude.blogspot.ca/2012/05/its-too-early-to-write-off-rene-bourque.html

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      • HardHabits says:

        Stop trying to be sensible UCe. Let your hatred take control. Forget that Bourque was given hard minutes on the PK and was used in a defensive role. He’s a slacker. At least AK woke up every 10 games to score 3 goals in a loss.

        • neumann103 says:

          I am almost incapable of dismissing a forward who kills penalties a slacker . He didn’t at first. Was it the Moen injury ? Or just cunneyworth trying anything .

          Anyhow his pk work does not deserve plekanec or eller props but it does extricate him from under the bus a bit.

          “Et le but!”

    • Timo says:

      Less favorite than say Laraque or Gomer?

    • Clay says:

      Gomez??????

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  10. Ozmodiar says:

    Alrighty, here goes my attempt at playing the GM. Hmmm…let’s see. One thing’s for certain, the Habs need more depth, grit and toughness.

    With that in mind, here’s a simple 5 step plan that should turn things around pretty quickly.

    Step 1: Sign P.A. Parenteau.
    St…

    …oh sh!t. I think I effed it up.

    • Hobie Hansen says:

      It’s pretty tough to find that all-in-one player who’s 6’2 and 225lbs who scores 25 goals, drops the gloves and dishes out hits.

      PA Parenteau isn’t exactly tough as nails but if you add him plus some grittiness on the 3rd and 4th lines and on defense, it’s better than nothing.

      Who knows maybe Rene Bourque finds his form with Mike Therrien in place?

    • Un Canadien errant says:

      Clever post, but I mostly disagree with your analysis of the utility of a P.A. Parenteau. The guy is a legitimate NHL’er, of which we have precious few. He can play on the top two lines and acquit himself well in that role, play on the powerplay, and plug a hole in our roster. With him on board, Mathieu Darche and Travis Moen populate a fourth line rather than a second line or even first unit powerplay, as we saw last year. As far as his price, we can hope for a reasonable, hometown discount contract, based on his growing up a Habs fan, a stated interest in playing here, and his friendship with David Desharnais.

      I know some harrumph that he won’t be the same player without John Tavares at centre, but who would be? Let’s think of him as a 50-60 point player in our lineup.

      http://relentlessineptitude.blogspot.ca/2012/03/im-trying-to-catch-up-to-controversy.html

      Or, as I’ve posted earlier in the season:

      Anyway, the most important revelation in this game occurred during the RDS pre-game show, when it was stated that Pierre-Alexandre Parenteau is good friends with David Desharnais, they met as a result of both being ex-Chicoutimi Saguenéens at a golf tournament and have hung around and kept in regular contact since then. During the profile, Mr. Parenteau explained that he ‘was’ a fan of the Canadiens growing up, “but not anymore” he quickly took care to specify, in the same tone you’d use when you tell your current squeeze that your ex or that cute cashier from work “is just a friend”.

      So that’s settled, we sign this guy this summer. He’s an unrestricted free agent, the Islanders are squeezing every penny, and Uniondale is not the most attractive hockey destination around, so we can make him a good offer, and rely on the magnetism of the ‘chandail bleu-blanc-rouge’ to clinch the deal. We then stick the sixty-point winger on the David Desharnais line with Max, see if these guys can cook up another big cauldron of chemistry for us next season. Erik Cole gets shifted on to Tomas Plekanec’s line with René Bourque and he takes the big lug under his wing, uses his particular brand of orneriness and toughness mixed in with an infectious good humour to influence him and point him in the right direction. Lars Eller reunites with Travis Moen and is given the captain Brian Gionta to add a bit of consistency and hockey IQ to the line, and all of a sudden the depth situation isn’t so dire, we have three lines which don’t induce a gag reflex.

      http://relentlessineptitude.blogspot.ca/2012/03/game-73-montreal-new-york-islanders.html

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      • Ozmodiar says:

        They don’t really have any holes to plug at right wing (Cole, Gionta, Leblanc, White). It will take a better player than PAP to bump Gionta out of the top 6, and consequently push Leblanc to the left side or Hamilton.

        I’d rather have home grown, cheaper, talent @ 3rd line RW in Leblanc (and later Gallagher) than rolling the dice on this guy. If Leblanc needs another year in the Hammer then I’m sure they can find someone who can fill until he’s ready.

        Those who comment about Tavares being his center might have a point considering his career up to age 27.

  11. HabsFanMTL says:

    so i wonder if the next cba is gonna allow for the discussed realignment …..looked great to me just 2 conferences….all the east in one division and all the west in another very intriguing , i might be off a bit in detail but looked great

  12. Boomer says:

    I’m happy we sent an invite to Stefan Matteau :)
    Solid Left winger, would fill a need in the system.

    • Un Canadien errant says:

      I want him or Mike Matheson or Martin Frk as our early 2nd round pick.

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  13. joshbenn says:

    Ok so far I’ve heard of 3 failing mottos that sum up the 2011-2012 season:
    -Fail for Nail
    -Blow for Grigorenko
    -Play like ‘Yuk for Galchenyuk
    We still need three more for basically the only other high pick
    possibilities: one’s for Forsberg,Murray and Dumba.

  14. Boomer says:

    I’m All for signing Parenteau, but I wish he was a Left Winger.. I hope we can sign Blair Betts (remember him the guy we aquired off waivers from philly but was injured so we sent him back?) good face off guy plays physical and is good on the PK.
    Patches DD Cole
    ??Bourque?? Pleks Gionta
    Moen Eller Leblanc
    Staubitz Betts White

    If PA was a leftwinger it would be so much easier since Cole Gionta and LL are on the right unless they shift leblanc to center and Eller to the left and PA on the right
    Eller LL PA? but then what to do with Moen if we sign him?
    ahh my head hurts

    • jedimyrmidon says:

      If the Habs are going to make the playoffs next season, the top line is going to have to duplicate last year’s performance, which was excellent, and Bourque will have to regain his 25 goal form on the 2nd line.

      Ideally, Leblanc would be in Hamilton developing because I’m convinced he can be a Top 6 forward and not stuck on the 3rd line. Same for Eller, actually. Man, both need quality wingers to work with if they stay at the NHL level or else their development is going nowhere.

      • Boomer says:

        True that. I’d actually like to see Eller get some more ice time on the 2nd line, maybe bum a few shifts from Pleks. I think if Louis gained 10-15lbs of muscle he’d be ready to play in the bigs. But Hamilton wouldn’t hurt either. I’m looking forward to seeing Eller next year. The improvements he made last year compared to his first year in mtl we’re good.

    • Bill says:

      Don’t let your head hurt, it’s actually really simple. Parenteau is not a LW. He therefore would fill no role on the Habs. He’s also a career minor-leaguer who only recently had some small success on a bad team playing with John Tavares. He’s a UFA who is going to get over-paid by some team who is desperate for a RW, which fortunately is not the Habs.

      Full Breezer 4 Life

    • Un Canadien errant says:

      I can’t believe I’m doing this.

      Bourque-Plekanec-Cole
      Pacioretty-Desharnais-Parenteau
      Moen-Eller-Gionta

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      http://relentlessineptitude.blogspot.com/

  15. 24 Cups says:

    A grab bag of Habs news with a list of players who attended today’s combine.

    http://www.allhabs.net/all-habs-news/headlines-habs-combine-development-camp-parenteau-richard

    • Mark C says:

      Some interesting names were invited today, including a few of my favorite 2nd-4th round players to watch for in Jankowski, Hart, and MacEachern.

      • Boomer says:

        So Ryan Murray says Mtl has had enough 1 on 1 time with him so he doesn’t need to attend…. hmm… anyways a few interesting names on there as Mark has mentioned but the one that really matters starts with Alex and ends with Galchenyuk… Do it Timmins…DO IT!!!

        • 24 Cups says:

          You really get the feeling that Murray already knows where he is going. If it’s Edmonton, the Habs are golden.

          Come to think of it, the same holds true if Murray goes to Columbus.

        • Lizardking89 says:

          The smartest thing for Edmonton to do is trade down with Columbus or even us and select Murray. They have enough talent up front but their D blows.

  16. jedimyrmidon says:

    So apparently it appears that the Isles will pass on signing PA Parenteau. Habs need to shore up their offense seeing as AK and his 20 goals left. Could be a good option.

    • Hobie Hansen says:

      You’d have to imagine the Habs are looking for another top 6 forward and Parenteau will get some attention?

      You also have to think he’ll get a huge raise from his $1.2 mill after collecting 67pst last year and a thin market?

      Probably $3.5 or $4 million on a 4-year-deal.

    • 24 Cups says:

      David Jones scored 20 goals for Colorado and was a band-aid player. He just got $16M for four years!

      Parenteau, who plays the right side, and has been Tavares linemate, just completed seasons of 53 and 67 points. You have to figure he’ll be pushing 4M a season.

      Right now the Habs project on RW as having Cole/Gionta/Leblanc/White with Kristo/Gallagher/Holland in the system.

      We could sure use help on the PP but will this guy be able to produce having to play behind other forwards? As well, who goes to the left side? And why did we draft Leblanc if we’re going to replace him with a UFA?

      • jedimyrmidon says:

        Can the Habs afford to try and sign Parenteau as a “half-temporary” solution? By that I mean Leblanc should have been in Hamilton developing and getting lots of minutes this past year, but circumstance dictated that he spent a lot of time with the team.

        I just look at Pacs and hope that all prospects could take the time they need in the AHL.

      • Stuck_in_To. says:

        Leblanc was drafted playing center … are the Habs converting him to a winger?

      • 24 Cups says:

        Leblanc hasn’t played centre since he turned pro. White was also a centre in junior but I’m not sure that’s going to work for him in the NHL. It looks like we need a 4th line UFA centre to start the season.

        As for the half-temporary measure, I hear what you’re saying. It’s just that Parenteau’s agent will want him to hit paydirt. I can’t see him signing for less than four years. That would be a double whammy with Bourque where you have two guys that are decent but not great for four more years. I don’t know.

    • That's-Hockey says:

      Maybe it’s because he’s 29 years old and not a steady 20 goal scorer – could help our 3rd or 4th line.

  17. The Dude says:

    Is George Parros available for next season?He and Allen would fix the D…

  18. frontenac1 says:

    How’s Canada doing in that soccer tourney?

    • Un Canadien errant says:

      We got eliminated in the evening gown portion of the preliminaries. Apparently our satin wasn’t satiny enough, and our hair just too gauche.

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  19. JohnBellyful says:

    Las Vegas has already given out the odds on who will win the Cup next season. What’s the over/under on Galchenyuk’s name appearing on these pages between now and June 22?

  20. frontenac1 says:

    As I said before, if Marc would dangle some Swiss Cheese,McPhee might nibble.

  21. frontenac1 says:

    Homeboy Bryan Allen would be awesome but might be too expensive.Erskine ,however would fill the role of Hall Gill but faster,tougher and reasonably priced for a year.Experienced,Team guy.

    • Hobie Hansen says:

      Erskine might deliver the toughness that Gill lacked but that’s about it. Gill was an easy number 4 defenseman in his heyday in Montreal and Erskine is a number 6.

      I’d take Erskine in the lineup over Weber or Diaz if there was nobody else available because we need some toughness back there but that’s about it.

  22. Mavid says:

    **sigh** 100 or so days till hockey starts again..what the hell am I suppose to do with myself…I will have to go back to roaming the streets…lookin for trouble

  23. awesomerino says:

    Okay, I’ve seen enough. I want Galchenyuk, please.

    • habstrinifan says:

      From all I have seen, read, etc I think he has more upside than Yakupov. I think Edm could catch someone napping and get a team to trade up pretending (EDM) is gonna take Yakupov. I hope it’s not Bergevin.

      If we keep our pick and Galchenyuk is available…. grab him.

      Do not trade up please Marc Bergevin. Wait your turn and grab the best available ( I dont think it wold be Galchenyuk) or make a block-buster deal for Bobby Ryan.

  24. Hobie Hansen says:

    Wonder if the Habs are going to be in on Bryan Allen? I was holding out some hope but some team is going to pay him close to $5 million a season…

    • kempie says:

      I’d be surprised to see him get that much. His contract that is expiring was for a cap hit of $2.9. But yeah, this guy is exactly what this team needs badly. He’d be a perfect fit and I’ve been saying it for months. He is my #1 entry on my UFA wishlist and, if he can be had for $4 or less, I’d gladly sign off on that. He’s 6’6″, I believe he’s 28 yo, plays top 4 minutes, he’s nasty and he’s a shutdown guy who really knows how to actually shut shit down. Price would love the guy.

      • Hobie Hansen says:

        He’s 31 and looking for one last big contact. The UFA pool is small and many teams are looking for that big/tough/steady defenseman who can play top four.

        With all the teams bidding he is going to get at LEAST a million dollar raise and probably closer to a 2 million dollar raise, unfortunately. In my estimation.

        • kempie says:

          Well I hope MB makes the call and gets his nose in there. He would make the next few years much easier on everybody. He would be a great mentor for Tinordi.

          • kempie says:

            @Lizardking89

            That’s just it. Once one of your top 4 gets hurt (and somebody will), now you’ve got Diaz or Kabs paired with Emelin logging big minutes. Plus, not signing somebody like this will put a ton of pressure on Tinordi, Beaulieu & Ellis. Our D will still suck badly while everybody at the Bell is tapping their fingers on the desk waiting for those guys to hurry up.

            If we started with
            PK/Gorges
            Markov/Allan
            Emelin/pick one of the three nightmares

            I think that would be pretty decent and would allow for Emelin to slip into the top 4 when injuries happen.

        • savethepuck says:

          I’m worried about the team going out and signing one of the better UFA DMen this summer. We have Tinordi and Beaulieu in the pipeline that may be ready late in the season or at least by the 2013-14 season. Signing a sought after UFA DMan means we will probably have to commit to a 4 year contract. I am OK with them getting someone for D not quite as good that’s willing to sign a 1 year contract to fit the 5,6, or 7. We have PK, Gorges, Marky and Emelin for our top 4.

          “They don’t hang Conference Championship Banners from the rafters here”
          Carey Price

          • Lizardking89 says:

            Until gimpy Markov goes down again plus he isn’t the same player anymore. Would be nice to get a steady d-man for insurance.

        • That's-Hockey says:

          He’s too old won’t be around when we win a cup.

      • Max_a_million says:

        31 y/o, 6’4″ 220 lbs
        He will want 4 years at 5 million. With the lower market teams being forced to spend money to meet cap floor, the 5 million for four year deals will be out there for him. There is just too much money on the market.

        Long term it could be tough, and I think he will get the extra.

    • habstrinifan says:

      I compared Sheldon Brookbank’s career stat with Bryan Allen’s. I think thi sis one of the cases where not jumping for the ‘marquee name’ and sitting down and closely looking at both players helps.

      Brookbank is younger and will be cheaper and compares favourably stats wise shutdown wise.

  25. shiram says:

    Grigo does not care about the rankings, wants to play in the NHL.
    Murray’s agent confirms they have met with Habs management, apparently Habs know Murray well and they talked oftent during the past season

    http://fr-ca.actualites.yahoo.com/lnh-canadien-yakupov-forsberg-et-murray-absents-151810547–spt.html

  26. ont fan says:

    So the habs are 60 to 1 to win the cup next year. Leafs 50 to 1 . The worst Columbus 75 to 1

  27. frontenac1 says:

    BGL,an enforcer who wouldn’t enforce. PG a GM who couldn’t manage. Both Vegans. More red meat amigos,more red meat.Hola!

  28. Habitant in Surrey says:

    …there was a time I was happy Laracque finally became a Hab …but why would We be thinking of bringing him back ?
    …he can’t skate worth a lick in today’s NHL, and are You telling Me he has renounced his pacifism ???
    …what blogger nimrod is making these sorry stories up ?

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    • HabinBurlington says:

      Whether it was his health, the way he was coached or his attitude it didn’t work out so well having him here. I too was initially happy with the signing at the time. I believe it too late now, I am sure MB, Dudley and company can find younger people to help the team in the areas in which BGL was supposed to help.

      Interesting read though Christopher, Chris put together a very interesting and indepth post regarding BGL’s career numbers as it related to his fighting. It disproved many of the posts written here at HI/O regarding BGL.

    • habstrinifan says:

      Wouldn’t it be un-pacifistic to go around renouncing?

  29. That's-Hockey says:

    LA won the cup because they took out the best defence and goaltending in the league when they beat St. Louis. if Pittsburgh had Quick they would have the cup…

  30. Habitant in Surrey says:

    @24 Cups
    …I said earlier below, “IMO Carter was the guy whom pushed LA over the top …the missing ingredient”
    …You disagreed per, “Out of all the top players on LA, I would have to say that Carter had the least impact when it came to pushing the team over the top.”

    …Steve, the players You list being more significant were already Kings and somehow, despite their exceptional talents never got it together
    …Carter’s arrival (+ Sutter’s) from Columbus was/were the catalyst(s) to add the extra edge
    …maybe because he is an ex-Phlyer We are reluctant to give Carter (and Richards) his/their due

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    Michel Therrien ???: HIS’ new Official Habs’ Fan Theme Song; Morrissey/The Smiths ‘Heaven Knows I’m Miserable Now’: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SfkvPnjb9hs
    _________________________________________________________
    HIO’s BC Odd Couple: UCe, the supercilious stickler; and HIS, the stubbornly relentless ‘schismatist’ :)
    _________________________________________________________
    What I WANT ! is an aircraft carrier at centre and nuclear destroyers on each wing going to the net like bats out of Hell !, …NO MORE rubber duckies !!!
    _________________________________________________________
    Habitant means PASSIONATE HOCKEY
    http://www.nationalpost.com/news/story.html?id=423049

    • HabinBurlington says:

      I am completely able to admit that my bias of disliking them as flyers and also because of their off ice actions, have made me discredit them quite a bit. I know they can play, but I don’t ever have to compliment them. :)

      • Habitant in Surrey says:

        …my acknowledgment was grudging too Gerald …if that makes You feel better :)
        …I thought Carter was a steal and brilliant move on Lombardi’s part …and, a big elite goal scorer like Carter would look awfully good on Our Team

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        Michel Therrien ???: HIS’ new Official Habs’ Fan Theme Song; Morrissey/The Smiths ‘Heaven Knows I’m Miserable Now’: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SfkvPnjb9hs
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        HIO’s BC Odd Couple: UCe, the supercilious stickler; and HIS, the stubbornly relentless ‘schismatist’ :)
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        What I WANT ! is an aircraft carrier at centre and nuclear destroyers on each wing going to the net like bats out of Hell !, …NO MORE rubber duckies !!!
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        Habitant means PASSIONATE HOCKEY
        http://www.nationalpost.com/news/story.html?id=423049

        • HabinBurlington says:

          I also believe that both Richards and Carter ate some humble pie when they found out Holmgren traded them. Could be just what they needed to make them better players. uh oh I am starting to compliment them… better stop now.

          • Timo says:

            They did not have respect.

          • Habitant in Surrey says:

            …hope We find someone like Carter in the second-round

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            Michel Therrien ???: HIS’ new Official Habs’ Fan Theme Song; Morrissey/The Smiths ‘Heaven Knows I’m Miserable Now’: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SfkvPnjb9hs
            _________________________________________________________
            HIO’s BC Odd Couple: UCe, the supercilious stickler; and HIS, the stubbornly relentless ‘schismatist’ :)
            _________________________________________________________
            What I WANT ! is an aircraft carrier at centre and nuclear destroyers on each wing going to the net like bats out of Hell !, …NO MORE rubber duckies !!!
            _________________________________________________________
            Habitant means PASSIONATE HOCKEY
            http://www.nationalpost.com/news/story.html?id=423049

          • Bripro says:

            This year’s second round? I hope you’re right Chris, but I think you’re dreaming. From what I’ve read/heard/been told of this year’s draft, he’d be a 10-20 placed draft pick.

          • Habitant in Surrey says:

            …Bri, definitely dreaming to ‘get lucky’ finding a Carter in 2nd round

            _________________________________________________________
            Michel Therrien ???: HIS’ new Official Habs’ Fan Theme Song; Morrissey/The Smiths ‘Heaven Knows I’m Miserable Now’: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SfkvPnjb9hs
            _________________________________________________________
            HIO’s BC Odd Couple: UCe, the supercilious stickler; and HIS, the stubbornly relentless ‘schismatist’ :)
            _________________________________________________________
            What I WANT ! is an aircraft carrier at centre and nuclear destroyers on each wing going to the net like bats out of Hell !, …NO MORE rubber duckies !!!
            _________________________________________________________
            Habitant means PASSIONATE HOCKEY
            http://www.nationalpost.com/news/story.html?id=423049

          • Bripro says:

            But let’s stay optimistic. After all, it’s happened.
            My favourite examples all come from the Red Wings:
            Shawn Matthias, Darren Helm, Kyle Quincey, Thomas Fleischmann and of course Hendrik Zetterberg.
            If it can happen to them….

          • Habitant in Surrey says:

            …Datsyuk ?, Robitaille ?, so many great players not picked until the late rounds

          • Bripro says:

            Absolutely! Those two should have been first on my list. You are correct sir!

  31. HabFab says:

    The Habs have started their own Draft page;
    http://canadiens.nhl.com/club/page.htm?id=80768

    • Bripro says:

      You’ve got to give it to Trevor Timmens. He seems like a very reflective individual, and one who listens.
      I like his approach, and you have to compliment him on his draft history.
      Because managerial incompetence was not able to maintain the quality of his influence, and I won’t bother sighting examples, is not his fault.
      I hope it truly is a thing of the past.

  32. Mr. Biter says:

    Just read Bleacher Report and they state BGL is eyeing a comeback even prehaps with the Habs. I don’t really want him back (like Staubitz way more) , but he did say the MT would definatly have players in the line-up to look after the smaller Habs skill players. Prehaps my earlier assessment of MT will wait until I see what type of team we have at the beginning of the new season (when ever it may be).

    Mr. Biter
    No Guts No Glory

  33. HabinBurlington says:

    Beautiful goal by Poland to tie up game with Russia! Wonderful stuff.

  34. frontenac1 says:

    John Erskine. 1yr left at $1.5mil. Dangle some Swiss Cheese . McPhee might nibble.Hola!

  35. jedimyrmidon says:

    Seems like almost all mock drafts have the Habs picking Galchenyuk at #3. Wonder why the consensus is so high? It’s funny how he has risen to this point when he hasn’t exactly played that many games.

    Don’t get me wrong, I’d like to see him drafted by the Habs in a couple of weeks (hoping Columbus goes for Murray), but it’s interesting to see how we even have stories of Burke somehow trying to get both Yakupov and Galchenyuk.

    • savethepuck says:

      Galchenyuk getting 83 points as a 16 year old in the OHL the previous season has me sold on him along with the scouting reports. His size and skill have me not worrying about his knee.

      “They don’t hang Conference Championship Banners from the rafters here”
      Carey Price

  36. Timo says:

    What Habs need is to look for another MAB at the draft.

  37. HabFab says:

    One name stands out to me as being missing from the Habs Combine…Michael Matheson.

  38. Habfan10912 says:

    I hope you guys don’t throw stuff at me but if Yakupov and Galchenyuk go one/two I’d take Murray with the third pick. Not a need pick for sure but from everything I’ve read and seen he’s the third best player in the draft. Build from the net out as they say. I will go duck for cover now.

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    • TomNickle says:

      What is it that makes him a better hockey player than Mikhail Grigorenko?

      • Habfan10912 says:

        Hi Tom. By no means am I an expert on any of these players. Far from it. My personal preference is picking a top 4 dman over a top 6 forward which I think most scouts think Grigorenko will fall. Some think more highly of him. If Grigorenko turns out to be a top 3 forward I should be tared and feathered. :)

        BTW – Thanks for not throwing anything at me.
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        • TomNickle says:

          And by scouts you mean Craig Button?

          • HabinBurlington says:

            Tom in fairness there are many reports out there saying Murray is quite a sure thing to become a Top 4 NHL Dmen. Obviously with him being a “good old Canadien kid” he gets different treatment than Grigorenko, but it is hard to argue that Murray could be the safest pick in the top 4 or 5 aside from Yakupov. And for that matter Yakupov has had a pretty serious concussion recently. I personally would rather us draft Grigs, but an argument can be made for why to take Murray.

          • TomNickle says:

            I’m referring to the better player statement Gerald. The draft for most people is about who the best player will be in three years, not today.

            And while Ryan Murray is a good defenseman, you can find another one of him later in the first round of the draft or even the second round potentially depending on who slips through. You aren’t finding another Grigorenko or Galchenyuk in the second round.

            The reason you won’t is simple, they have elite talent. Funny how a kid can come to North America for one season, score a ton and get dogged by a small handful of xenophobic scouts, I’ve seen it before and it won’t go away. He’s lazy, he’s going to Russia, he doesn’t play when it matters. Well, he’s a well documented gym rat, he came to Quebec to learn North American hockey and played through an ankle injury and mono.

            Notice how Yakupov gets knocked for his playing style because he isn’t big after suffering a concussion? The criticism of Alex Galchenyuk’s health because of the knee injury? Where are the concerns about Morgan Reilly?

            Just sayin. The best player is the best player, unless he’s Russian. Then he’s a very talented, but lazy guy who probably won’t pan out because he isn’t dedicated.

          • Habfan10912 says:

            Dealing with 18 and 19 year olds and trying to predict their growth has got to be a very tough job. Given that plus I don’t know what the hell I’m talking about you shouldn’t take any of my opinions for any more then opinions. One thing though. This Craig Button guy. Isn’t he the figure skating announcer from the Olympics? What’s he doing scouting hockey players?

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          • HabinBurlington says:

            I hear you on all points Tom. You know my feelings by now, I would be tempted to take Galchenyuk even with first pick. I believe he has the highest Risk/Reward upside of any players in the draft. Grigorenko is to me a slight step behind Galchenyuk and will be happy with either.

            Has been so long since we have had an elite talent kid in our system. Granted Pouliot had some great talent, but just hasn’t figured out how to exploit it.

            And besides Craig Button there was this list that had Murray ahead of Grigs.
            http://www.tsn.ca/draftcentre/story/?id=396087

          • Habfan10912 says:

            I get friggin headaches reading the difference of opinions. Have to agree with Tom though that I hate the racial overtones to some of the opinions. Not necessary.

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          • Bripro says:

            I’m with Tom on this one.
            We need a no. 1 power centre (Grigorenko), a couple of strong wingmen (via trade) for Pleks – if he remains – and a stand-out power D, although the team might be grooming them as we speak.

        • boing007 says:

          You will be tarred and feathered.

          Richard R
          Price is an oyster. Unfortunately not all oysters produce pearls.

    • HabinBurlington says:

      Probably the most NHL ready player in the draft.

    • Habfan10912 says:

      Thanks Frank. I love reading these. I was in love with Forsberg earlier but as I stated above I think Murray would be to good to pass up at 3.

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    • Habfan10912 says:

      I would be very happy if the draft played out this way. Thanks again for finding these and sharing. You’re the best!

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    • punkster says:

      Easy there Frank. This is a fan post under their FanPost section. Anyone with a two bit opinion can drop in an article, unedited, and it doesn’t necessarily represent EOTP opinion.

      ***Subbang Baby!!!***

  39. HabFab says:

    For those worrying about Kristo, at least he is excited to visit.

    dkristo7 via tweeter- Excited to head to montreal for a couple days! 3 hours ago

    • HabinBurlington says:

      Is there anyone distantly related to the Habs you don’t follow on Twitter Frank?

    • Sean Bonjovi says:

      I’m not so much worried about Kristo not signing as I am about him not being any good.

      “I’m not opposed to trading Plekanec and/or Markov”
      - Sean Bonjovi

      • Ali says:

        What have you seen that would lead you to think that? He has improved every year, especially on the offensive side of things. He’ll play out his last year at uni, sign his pro deal and be with the habs/dogs by the end of next season.

      • Habfan10912 says:

        Kind of agree with Ali. The few times I’ve seen him play he’s impressed. He has a non stop motor and is quick and a good skater. Maybe not a top 6 forward but I see him as a decent third liner. Heard other people share your opinion though, Sean.

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        • Sean Bonjovi says:

          Instead of “not being any good” I should have said something like “only become a 3rd/4th liner”.

          “I’m not opposed to trading Plekanec and/or Markov”
          - Sean Bonjovi

      • Un Canadien errant says:

        I think we’re fixating on Kristo because he was the first player drafted in his year, but in the second round since we’d traded the first pick for Alex Tanguay. So I also thought he was overhyped and wouldn’t have received the attention if a first rounder had come before him, but when i expressed that opinion on here I was told that he was dominant at the Under 18 and the WJC for the US, and that he was easily the best skater out there. So it’s a good thing then, while he may have drawn more attention than a typical second rounder deserves, he kind of justified it with his play. Now his first two NCAA seasons weren’t anything to Twitter home about, what with the bizarre, possibly alcohol-induced frostbite injury, but last season he rounded into form. He has another season at UND to put it all together, and then we see him in Hamilton next season.

        http://relentlessineptitude.blogspot.ca/2012/05/will-danny-kristo-spurn-canadiens-like.html

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        In the very long view, it is important that kids growing up in Québec love the Canadiens and recognize themselves in the team, and a bit of the team in themselves. There must be a strong, visceral, emotional connection between the fans and leurs Glorieux.

        http://relentlessineptitude.blogspot.com/

      • Sean Bonjovi says:

        There’s a great history of guys like Dany Heatley, and Jonathan Toews, and Paul Kariya playing a year, or two in the NCAA then becoming stars in the NHL, but the list of great players who play 3 or 4 years in the NCAA isn’t all that long. Brendan Morrison had a solid carrer, and I think mike Cammalleri might have played 4 years in the NCAA, but a lot of they guys who hang back and play against weaker and younger competion to win Hobby Baker awards and such turn out like Blake Geoffrion. I’d be more optimistic if Kristo was the kind of guy who went looking for a tougher challenge like the American Hockey League.
        Also, watch a Danny Kristo highlight video. He’s always skating into traffic with the puck hanging out. His moves don’t look like pro moves IMO.

        “I’m not opposed to trading Plekanec and/or Markov”
        - Sean Bonjovi

    • boing007 says:

      As long as it’s not just to check out the bar scene.

      Richard R
      Price is an oyster. Unfortunately not all oysters produce pearls.

  40. shiram says:

    Pierre Groulx stays on as goalie coach.
    http://www.rds.ca/canadien/chroniques/341814.html

    only coach to remain since Therrien was brought in, Price likes Groulx.

  41. HabFab says:

    Abe Hefter has about a dozen photos from today’s Combine;
    http://twitpic.com/photos/hefteronthehabs

  42. That's-Hockey says:

    I’m happy for the Kings they won the cup – they sure as hell didn’t have good management until Lombardi came on board. 45 years to win a cup. hope our management can do better than that or guess what. we have another 25 year wait. don’t want to even think about that….

  43. TomNickle says:

    The Habs lack of elite offensive skill and depth scoring among forwards beyond Eller is a concern. But how this concern came to be the biggest problem is beyond me.

    The presence Rafael Diaz, Yannick Weber, Tomas Kaberle and the organizational philosophy for defense under Pierre Gauthier that completely ignored the physical element needed to protect the team’s franchise player and most valuable asset is by far the biggest problem this team has.

    This team won 15 games when leading after the first period and lost 12 times. That’s a result of the opposition becoming more aggressive when trailing, crashing the net and getting rewarded for it.

    I love Josh Gorges and PK Subban, but with due respect to their games, they don’t clear bodies away from the crease.

    This team, to get back into serious contention for a deep playoff run or championship needs to add two players in addition to Emelin that can accomplish this goal.

    • Timo says:

      Elite scoring and Eller in the same sentence?

      • TomNickle says:

        Eller provides depth scoring. 16 goals in a 3rd line role. The team does need to add some elite talent offensively that would push Bourque out of a top six role which would likely add scoring in place of Ryan White or Travis Moen.

      • Cal says:

        Yeah, I saw and still don’t believe it. ;)

        *edit* Okay, okay. “beyond Eller”. Must be the writing style.

        • TomNickle says:

          It actually isn’t writing style at all. It’s a statement saying that the Habs need elite offensive skill, and that they don’t have depth scoring beyond Lars Eller.

    • Sean Bonjovi says:

      I think you’re right about what we need, but since we’re locked into PK, Gorges, Markov, & at least one of (Kaberle,Diaz, Weber) for the short term, and the long term solution on defence is already in the system I’m willing to just go with what we’ve got and wait it out.

      P.S. “waiting-it-out” means Markovs run with the Habs is probably over by the time this team has a chance to win though.

      “I’m not opposed to trading Plekanec and/or Markov”
      - Sean Bonjovi

      • TomNickle says:

        I would prefer to wait it out too. And with that in mind I would be trading veterans in pursuit of premium draft picks and prospects for another year.


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