Neil’s fight turned the game around… Hmm, the obvious question would be how do you know it was the fight?
Don’t tell me because the game happened to turn following the fight. Does that mean only fights can change momentum? One could say it was bc the coach got mad in the dressing room after the first as Ottawa was trailing. They actually have a better team and are playing for something, so there you have another good reason .
So we don’t know it was the fight. I submit to you that momentum turns in all sports and only hockey has fighting.
Maybe Neil’s fight caused the Habs to have 14 shots total through three periods + OT.
The scary thing is the fight happened in the first period but not having won it kept affecting the psyche of our players until the third period when the Sens finally tied it. Then it completely paralyzed them in OT when they allowed the winning goal to Philip Kuba. Neil is Superman!
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I want a top pick. It would really suck to suck this bad and have suckers like the Leafs outsuck us down the stretch and suck away our draft pick.
Why do you start to talk about fighting after this game?
Is “stop the fighting” your goal?
“Momentum turns in all sports”.
Well, not half as much as in hockey after a fight or a huge hit.
The momentum in a 8 days Cricketmatch could be the weather.
Great fights tonight. Neal shows hockey/sportsspirit.,
Lets go!
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Say no to visors and sign Emelin for 10 years
If you read closely, you would see I was actually responding to an argument about how Neil’s fight changed the game.
Funny you would pick Cricket as your counterexample of games where there is no momentum shit. You could have easily mentioned basketball where huge blocks and nasty dunks are said to have the same effect.
I don’t believe in that either. Because the argument changes depending on whether you lose the game or not. Well, we failed to build on the momentum of the fight. We failed to pounce on them after the huge Emelin hit. If you win, of course the fight or the hit is the reason why.
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I want a top pick. It would really suck to suck this bad and have suckers like the Leafs outsuck us down the stretch and suck away our draft pick.
Waw, credit to Gorges, think it was 10 shots he blocked.
Amazing!
If anyone is a true Hab, he is, he has proof all over his body. The season is over and still he is blocking shots, and it’s not even like he is going to be a ufa so he’s playing for a contract, he could easily just give up like allot of players did cause he’s locked up.
I wonder how many ice packs he walks around with.
Credit to also Price, Subban, Yemilen, DD, Cole, Pac, Plec and White who also shows up for every game.
A few observations from my evening in Kanata. (And, by the way, after twenty five years in Ottawa there are exactly two valid reasons for me to be in Kanata: 1) Watching a hockey game at the bank; and 2) Coaching speedskating at the Sensplex. Kind of like Laval, only with less culture.)
- Cole is a MONSTER. Yeah, I know: “Thank you, Captain Obvious.” But his acceleration is so much more impressive at ice level.
- I really liked Frederic St Denis. Smart, careful and plays much bigger than his physical size. It is very difficult to understand why he has languished in Hamilton while Campoli has eaten minutes that could have been played by an NHL defenseman.
- Ryan White. Ok, I know he hasn’t played a lot of hockey this year. A lot of wasted movement, MANY boneheaded plays (does he play with his eyes closed?) and ZERO hands. I’m trying to remember why I liked him so much last year. I think it may just be a matter of the complete absence of physicality on last year’s edition of the team, which is no longer true of this club.
- Staubitz can really skate. So can Blunden. Grit is more impressive when combined with a useful hockey skill: See Neil, C.
- If Josh Gorges were a soldier, he’d be sporting a Victoria Cross in no time.
- That Karlsson kid might be the best skater in the NHL. Seriously fast and fluid. Wicked shot. Wouldn’t use him on the P.K., though.
- Ben Bishop is all legs. I realize that he is 6’7″, but the guy’s hips are at crossbar level. Carey’s what, 6’3″? His hips are like a foot below that. Ben’s going to make a lot of toe saves in the NHL.
Learned something about skating skills from watching Karlsson and our inspiring David Desharnais who tonight was just average. These guys change speeds so well that they create openings aplenty. A true talent when you see the other good skaters not doing it as well. Spezza, Alfredsson, Cole have the change of speed move. Greening is just blazing fast.
I saw the light with the Montreal Canadiens tonight and it is white light. The three points against Ottawa mean little for the last place Habs but four points would have meant more to the play-off bound Senators. Yet the Habs made the Senator game difficult. Tonight it was a contrasting team effort compared to the treat the Habs brought to the Bell Centre Wed. This Montreal team still demonstrates character and I know they can be fickle yet when the right pieces are in place this team can go far. Go Habs go!!!!!!!!!
Sequin has great hands and lots of speed, Hall has a great shot and more physical play. Different type players, but both great. Hall has a few more goals. Neither is in Stamkos’ class, i.e. won’t likely contend for the Hart Trophy in the future.
I M not. But he’s in the running.
And when I figure out his daily jogging routine, let’s just say he’ll soon be out of the running.
The one I’m worried about is Roy — in more ways than one.
My kind of man. PG set the standard for GMs being remote and I would expect no less from my staff. You do know it’s seasonal work, right? October to April.
you know this losing season can really benefit a player like carey price long term.. The reason being is that since day one that he’s been with the team they have always been on the bubble of making the playoffs and every game was do or die, it left no room for error and you can’t experiment/polish skills most of the better goalies had gone through some blown years luongo comes to mind when he was in florida when every mistake is not magnified you can feel more relaxed to try new moves and perfect them without the worry it will cost the season i believe thats what cary is going through now i see him trying things ive never seen him really do before hes been pokechecking alot more lately and its really paying off more than a few times in recent weeks a player has been cutting to the net only to have the puck swatted away by careys stick in the past he’d be more conservative and just go butterfly letting the player take the shot.
just all in all playing a more aggressive goaltending style compared to conservative it will benefits him longterm he will gain confidence in his technique and trust himself more. i think the times in the past where awkward shots beat him from wierd areas is because he doesn’t trust himself as much as he could.
being more aggresive and experimenting on angles is another example ive noticed think of the game against toronto the other week where the shot hit him in the nuts he came way outside the paint to stop the shot in the past he might have stayed deeper in the net or just at the top of the blue paint, this is usually an underconfident goalie worried about rebounds or backdoor passes even if the play is clearly shot
I think what pisses the Halekite’s off is he look so cool out there. He covers the net from side to side and makes it look so easy many posters just will never see how good he will be. Makes difficult saves look ordinary so when an”easy shot” goes in it may not be that easy but good shooting by the opposition. Anyone who has ever played goal at a higher level will know what I’m talking about.
Don’t like some of his careless passes. Weber slid to prevent a goal and had that gone in and one or two goalpost shots Price would have come away with an awful performance.
You’re a Halakite aren’t you? He almost single-handedly stole the game from Ottawa and you still find fault. If they were outshot 78-4 and won 1-0, you would complain that he didn’t control his rebounds as well as he might have or didn’t sweat symmetrically. Halak is the BACK-UP goalie with the Blues now, get over it!!!!
Woop-tee-f–in-do Ottawa won, playing basically half an AHL.
Gomez-Gionta-Moen with Kaberle and Markov not a bad line.
Oh, I bet Neil was the school bully — what a clueless toothless tool.
Way to ruin another game Chris Lee — how does he get out of Montreal without getting …….
So after years of trading away every offensive minded player who had a bit of an independent streak, and getting nothing in return, we have White and Bourque playing with Plekanec.
Oh well. Habs didn’t deserve to win. Price was great. PK was great. Probably wore many key players down. Gorges was insane out there – glad he’s on the Habs.
Yeah, this team is not NHL caliber anymore. Half the forwards should either be in Hamilton or on the 4th line. I’m not lamenting this fact: hopefully PG knew that when he traded Cammelleri and AK away. Gomez, even though he didn’t play, is no longer really a factor out there.
On the D, Campoli was pretty bad. Weber too. I think Weber should probably have stayed in Hamilton longer seeing as he’s regressed this year, but that’s in hindsight.
That’s just how this team is. Pleks and Eller need better wingmates. Leblanc needs to develop more.
Geez, I am so out of it. Chub – an European freshwater fish?
I had to Google further. Chub – a partial erection.
I’m not sure what you’re implying here, Bill. Something about HIO posters fantasizing about goons and are rewarded with fish that have partial erections? I can assure you I’m not in that camp.
Not very sporting of you, by the way.
Thanks, Burl’. Been sort out of it of late. My spirit has been wilting seeing the Habs play out the string.
(Gawd, I hope I haven’t just opened the door to another comment by Bill.)
P.S. I must say I am impressed as much by your stamina as by your wit in being able to post so often with comments worth reading. In keeping with the theme of this exchange, I’d have to conclude you’re well-e-quip-ped
I agree. Sports should be more sombre. Everyone needs to be kneeling with their hands clasped while watching games.
All this showmanship and trying to rally the troops is over-rated. Neil should have gone to the dressing room and had a silent moment of reflection on the whole matter instead.
How about playing the game without the artificial theatrics. There should be enough entertainment in the game being played properly — you know, making passes, doing that stickhandling stuff, delivering stiff but legal hits, orchestrating tick-tack-toe plays, reeling off remarkable saves, taking wicked shots — but I digress.
The game has declined so much that we must delight in the showmanship afforded by thugs. After the Senators sucked on all those power plays, Neil should have punched a Canadien and got the crowd back into the game. Missed opportunity. By the playoffs he’ll have figured it out.
How bad is a team that has bums like Campoli and Weber playing a regular shift. It’s so pathetic how far this organization has fallen. It kills me how a guy like Campoli is sitting around into September, nobody touches him, and then Gauthier signs him and he plays a regular shift for the Habs…so bad.
And I’m still waiting for all those “dirty area goals” that Mr. Gauthier said Bourque was supposed score. If at least Gauthier isn’t gone in the off season, then this team is screwed for a very long time.
Nice. Bergie and the RDS crew lamenting that the Habs lead the league in blocked shots. And they are right. It amounts to not having possession of the puck and not being very strong defensively.
EDIT: My mistake. Not being very strong offensively
Habs lead the league in blocked shots. One of the best PKs out there. Carey Price is just one game below .500 somehow. They just really can’t score, and 5-on-5, this injury-ravaged roster has simply been outmatched all year.
It results from having the worst forward corps in the NHL! You don’t block shots when you’re on offence, something this team just has too few players with any skill level to actually go on. The two and a half men line and then Pleks and Eller playing by themselves. Every forward not in that group should be very, very afraid that their NHL experience is OVER.
White? Staubitz? Darche? Moen? Bourque? Noki? LL? AP? Blunder? Gomez? They aren’t even decent AHL players.
After seeing Bills sign Mario Williams, I’d like to see them make a pitch for Peyton Manning. If Ralph Wilson does THAT, then I’ll KNOW hell has frozen over.
Man does this team stink. Great game by Gorges, Price and Pleks to steal a point. The Habs have 5 NHL calibre forwards playing for them right now. Pleks, Cole, Max Pac, DD and Eller. All the rest can be replaced by any group of AHL players and they would be no better and no worse. Perhaps they can populate the 4th line with fans selected at random from the crowd. At the end of the day the stats would be the same. No shots, no goals, nothing worthwhile. LL and AP are at least another season away, Noki can go now. White, meh. Bourque, well at least he earns less than Cammy. He’s a 6′ 2″ powder puff. I won’t pick on Gomez because it was one of his better nights.
on D St Denis looked overmatched most of the night and Campoli was flat out awful.
Solid AHL player for Columbus perhaps.
PG, or whoever replaces him, has some work to do. It’s one thing to replace a forward or two, quite another to replace two complete lines. Gionta will help when he comes back, but none of the others are worth spit.
Spend almost a full period on the PK, take out Gomez, Markov and Kaberle. And people bashing the Habs for going to OT.
Your husband may have won, but you can’t be happy with that win.
It was one of those rare moral victories that ended with the losing side actually getting a point — but did they really deserve to?
I would think any bashing going on is directed at certain players who played poorly and deserve to be criticized. It was only the play of the usual stalwarts that salvaged anything for the team.
The refs had nothing to do with it. The Habs deserved most of those penalties. They spent the whole night completely and totally outmatched, Men against boys, and that lead to a ton of hooking, holding, tripping and delay of game penalties because the were always panicking.
The best thing about tonight’s result is that the Bruins fall from 2nd place to 7th. I’ll be cheering for every team that plays them. Man, I’d love to see them fall right out of the playoffs.
Most excellent! As bad as tonights snoozefest was, Bruins-Leafs would be worse right about now. 0-0 and still tied after 46 shoot out attempts. All the fans have gone home. No one cares the outcome.
Lots of inexperience showing on the ice tonight. Good that they get some playing time (St. Denis, Weber, Leblanc) because they’re going to get lots next year.
Nobody wants the players to tank. People want management to understand there is nothing else to prove this season, so be smart.
Give a break to everyone who’s nicked up (ex Cole, Emelin), call up more youngsters from the farm you want to have a look at, play your nb 2 goalie a bit more, and play exciting high-tempo game where the emphasis is on offense. You score goals, you get fans excited, but more often than not, you will lose.
Every team does this in every sport. That’s the way you manage the season when out of the playoffs early. You can’t ask or expect the players to lose on purpose.
And yes the unofficial name of that strategy is, you guess it, tanking.
The Leafs have never been so smart. The only time the tanked they lost the picks. The Habs are the Leafs now. A bunch of garbage points at the end of the season when they don’t matter with the end result being a worse draft pick.
You, sir, are a bright man. Don’t be shocked, you are.
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I want a top pick. It would really suck to suck this bad and have suckers like the Leafs outsuck us down the stretch and suck away our draft pick.
The Penguins invented and perfected it, all the way to multiple Cups.
And in football, look at the Colts this past year. They go from playoffs every year, to 2-14, and surprise, get the big QB prize in the draft next year.
Crosby’s group got one cup, and lost in the finals to Detroit one year earlier. Their Cups in 91 and 92 were Mario’s doing with an assist from Jaromir, and a honourable mention to Alexei Kovalev. Must admit this year’s Penguins are good bets.
Nathan Lawson is a pretty good goalie. Mark Mitera has size on defence but seems to play small. Nattinen has drive and some grit, only needs to develop his hands.
Too bad there is a rule limiting callups from the farm to prevent just what you say, thus trying to protect the integrity of the game, what is left. And I believe we have already used our 4 recalls.
That is true, thanks for pointing that out. You still control who you puts out there on the ice, though. No better way to tank than to have Weber and Campoli on the ice together in OT. That was just textbook tanking … unless RC really has no clue.
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I want a top pick. It would really suck to suck this bad and have suckers like the Leafs outsuck us down the stretch and suck away our draft pick.
I think you just have to stop calling it tanking. Tanking would be losing on purpose, and if there was evidence of that, I would think the NHL would take away your first round pick, and that would be the right thing to do.
That said, there’s nothing wrong with evaluating young players in meaningless games near the end of a lost season. If anything, at least they should play with some enthusiasm (unlike Mr Bourque). Given the dearth of talented players in the AHL, I don’t think the Habs have a lot to trial. LL and AP look overmatched and they’re the best the Habs have. But they might as well let them play 17 minutes a night and see what happens. At the very least they will start the season in the AHL next year with a better idea what it takes to play in the show. And let’s be honest, the Bulldogs could probably get 14 shots most nights.
By the same token, it’s time to take the foot off the Price pedal. Let Budjah play half the remaining games; lets see how he does.
NCR, you’re actually advocating the same thing as me. We can call it tanking or something else, but that’s the common name by which it is referred by in the sports world. There is no league where teams are really allowed to ‘lose on purpose’. Teams with nothing to gain down the stretch tend to give their young players more a chance to play and get experience, which by definition will bring you more losses than wins.
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I want a top pick. It would really suck to suck this bad and have suckers like the Leafs outsuck us down the stretch and suck away our draft pick.
For a team to tank on purpose is classless to say the least. I would rather be known to build a good team like The Wings have done. Not through tanking.
PJ Stock raves about Price’s heroics and Josh Gorges stellar D, then goes on to say “Ottawa will not beat the Toronto Maple Leafs if they play like that tomorrow night.”
Just who on Toronto will play like Gorges and Price? Reim Time? The Munster? Phaneuf? Get real, the Laffs are a joke.
I don’t really get the hate-on for PJ here tonight.
The part of HNIC I watched, he was also talking highly of Subban — pointing out some ways he might be more effective, sure — but certainly not dissing him.
Sure some of the the things he says could better thought out, such as your point, but he isn’t an idiot.
At least he has physical contact with his opponent as opposed to Cammy. The other parts of the trade are the 2nd in 2013, Patrick Holland and the saved cap space.
I too have noticed that Bourque has been often thrown into a defensive role by the Habs with big minutes on the PK. It doesn’t help his offensive numbers.
Boone asked how a team could have no shots through half a period.
I would suggest that it was because they couldn’t string together two passes in a row through that period, unless you count the ones back and forth behind their own net.
I’m not sure either that the game was wide open. That would imply chances at the other end but mostly the openness involved Montreal barely getting out of their zone and then dumping
the puck into Ottawa’s end.
Among our forwards we have Leblanc who ought to be in Hamilton Palushaj, Blunden, Nokelainen, Staubitz who are not NHLers, and White and Bourque who just aren’t that good..
That was a fun game!
Gorges’ heroics
A crap load of penalties, couldn’t find our rhythm.
But hey they had something to play for, we were loose!
Plus St.Denis a little exposed on that last play.
Carey was amazing tho
Well, St. Denis has been rushing the forwards at the blue line in both games he played this week so no surprise. Still he played a pretty good game and learned a lot. Like…don’t rush a guy like Alfie when he’s flying.
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Being a Hab fan is like buying real estate: only over the long-haul will you appreciate the true value of your investment.
Hey, we all know that Halak would have had a shutout.
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Being a Hab fan is like buying real estate: only over the long-haul will you appreciate the true value of your investment.
Boucher is useless. We are seeing what he is doing with Tampa Bay with a lot more offensive team then the Habs. If he doesn’t have that same offensive it only reasons that he would be a worst coach.
GD it is about time Ottawa won this game the Habs hand it to them on a silver plater. You know they wanted them to win to screw the Bruins. This team was drunk, they been drinling all the way on the bus. They didn’t care and still got a point lol.
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Neil’s fight turned the game around… Hmm, the obvious question would be how do you know it was the fight?
Don’t tell me because the game happened to turn following the fight. Does that mean only fights can change momentum? One could say it was bc the coach got mad in the dressing room after the first as Ottawa was trailing. They actually have a better team and are playing for something, so there you have another good reason .
So we don’t know it was the fight. I submit to you that momentum turns in all sports and only hockey has fighting.
9 or 10 PPs for The Sens had nothing to do with the game I guess……
Maybe Neil’s fight caused the Habs to have 14 shots total through three periods + OT.
The scary thing is the fight happened in the first period but not having won it kept affecting the psyche of our players until the third period when the Sens finally tied it. Then it completely paralyzed them in OT when they allowed the winning goal to Philip Kuba. Neil is Superman!
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I want a top pick. It would really suck to suck this bad and have suckers like the Leafs outsuck us down the stretch and suck away our draft pick.
Why do you start to talk about fighting after this game?
Is “stop the fighting” your goal?
“Momentum turns in all sports”.
Well, not half as much as in hockey after a fight or a huge hit.
The momentum in a 8 days Cricketmatch could be the weather.
Great fights tonight. Neal shows hockey/sportsspirit.,
Lets go!
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Say no to visors and sign Emelin for 10 years
If you read closely, you would see I was actually responding to an argument about how Neil’s fight changed the game.
Funny you would pick Cricket as your counterexample of games where there is no momentum shit. You could have easily mentioned basketball where huge blocks and nasty dunks are said to have the same effect.
I don’t believe in that either. Because the argument changes depending on whether you lose the game or not. Well, we failed to build on the momentum of the fight. We failed to pounce on them after the huge Emelin hit. If you win, of course the fight or the hit is the reason why.
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I want a top pick. It would really suck to suck this bad and have suckers like the Leafs outsuck us down the stretch and suck away our draft pick.
Chris Lee vs Habs = loss. Nuff said.
Mr. Biter
No Guts No Glory
Waw, credit to Gorges, think it was 10 shots he blocked.
Amazing!
If anyone is a true Hab, he is, he has proof all over his body. The season is over and still he is blocking shots, and it’s not even like he is going to be a ufa so he’s playing for a contract, he could easily just give up like allot of players did cause he’s locked up.
I wonder how many ice packs he walks around with.
Credit to also Price, Subban, Yemilen, DD, Cole, Pac, Plec and White who also shows up for every game.
A few observations from my evening in Kanata. (And, by the way, after twenty five years in Ottawa there are exactly two valid reasons for me to be in Kanata: 1) Watching a hockey game at the bank; and 2) Coaching speedskating at the Sensplex. Kind of like Laval, only with less culture.)
- Cole is a MONSTER. Yeah, I know: “Thank you, Captain Obvious.” But his acceleration is so much more impressive at ice level.
- I really liked Frederic St Denis. Smart, careful and plays much bigger than his physical size. It is very difficult to understand why he has languished in Hamilton while Campoli has eaten minutes that could have been played by an NHL defenseman.
- Ryan White. Ok, I know he hasn’t played a lot of hockey this year. A lot of wasted movement, MANY boneheaded plays (does he play with his eyes closed?) and ZERO hands. I’m trying to remember why I liked him so much last year. I think it may just be a matter of the complete absence of physicality on last year’s edition of the team, which is no longer true of this club.
- Staubitz can really skate. So can Blunden. Grit is more impressive when combined with a useful hockey skill: See Neil, C.
- If Josh Gorges were a soldier, he’d be sporting a Victoria Cross in no time.
- That Karlsson kid might be the best skater in the NHL. Seriously fast and fluid. Wicked shot. Wouldn’t use him on the P.K., though.
- Ben Bishop is all legs. I realize that he is 6’7″, but the guy’s hips are at crossbar level. Carey’s what, 6’3″? His hips are like a foot below that. Ben’s going to make a lot of toe saves in the NHL.
Learned something about skating skills from watching Karlsson and our inspiring David Desharnais who tonight was just average. These guys change speeds so well that they create openings aplenty. A true talent when you see the other good skaters not doing it as well. Spezza, Alfredsson, Cole have the change of speed move. Greening is just blazing fast.
“May you live in interesting times.”
Agree re Desharnais. People used to knock his skating, but he actually has pretty good speed and really good acceleration.
St. Denis looked brutal on the GWG.
Full Breezer 4 Life
I saw the light with the Montreal Canadiens tonight and it is white light. The three points against Ottawa mean little for the last place Habs but four points would have meant more to the play-off bound Senators. Yet the Habs made the Senator game difficult. Tonight it was a contrasting team effort compared to the treat the Habs brought to the Bell Centre Wed. This Montreal team still demonstrates character and I know they can be fickle yet when the right pieces are in place this team can go far. Go Habs go!!!!!!!!!
We’ll get em tomorrow! What we’ll get, that is another question. Good night all, I think tonight Gorges sleeps in the ice tub.
Do you guys rather have Taylor Hall or Tyler Seguin on your team? Who’s the better player?
Sequin has great hands and lots of speed, Hall has a great shot and more physical play. Different type players, but both great. Hall has a few more goals. Neither is in Stamkos’ class, i.e. won’t likely contend for the Hart Trophy in the future.
“May you live in interesting times.”
I’d rather hall. He doesn’t need to be scoring to be effective. Better all around player.
I’d rather not tip my hand until I become GM of the Canadiens.
R U Pierre McGuire?
“May you live in interesting times.”
I M not. But he’s in the running.
And when I figure out his daily jogging routine, let’s just say he’ll soon be out of the running.
The one I’m worried about is Roy — in more ways than one.
I heard you’ve been applying for the gig. I look forward to,working for you. I can work from my home here in ns, right?
My kind of man. PG set the standard for GMs being remote and I would expect no less from my staff. You do know it’s seasonal work, right? October to April.
As long as there’s absolutely no chance of working thru may, I’m in.
you know this losing season can really benefit a player like carey price long term.. The reason being is that since day one that he’s been with the team they have always been on the bubble of making the playoffs and every game was do or die, it left no room for error and you can’t experiment/polish skills most of the better goalies had gone through some blown years luongo comes to mind when he was in florida when every mistake is not magnified you can feel more relaxed to try new moves and perfect them without the worry it will cost the season i believe thats what cary is going through now i see him trying things ive never seen him really do before hes been pokechecking alot more lately and its really paying off more than a few times in recent weeks a player has been cutting to the net only to have the puck swatted away by careys stick in the past he’d be more conservative and just go butterfly letting the player take the shot.
Interesting observation. Do you have other examples of changes in his style?
just all in all playing a more aggressive goaltending style compared to conservative it will benefits him longterm he will gain confidence in his technique and trust himself more. i think the times in the past where awkward shots beat him from wierd areas is because he doesn’t trust himself as much as he could.
being more aggresive and experimenting on angles is another example ive noticed think of the game against toronto the other week where the shot hit him in the nuts he came way outside the paint to stop the shot in the past he might have stayed deeper in the net or just at the top of the blue paint, this is usually an underconfident goalie worried about rebounds or backdoor passes even if the play is clearly shot
I think what pisses the Halekite’s off is he look so cool out there. He covers the net from side to side and makes it look so easy many posters just will never see how good he will be. Makes difficult saves look ordinary so when an”easy shot” goes in it may not be that easy but good shooting by the opposition. Anyone who has ever played goal at a higher level will know what I’m talking about.
Mr. Biter
No Guts No Glory
Don’t like some of his careless passes. Weber slid to prevent a goal and had that gone in and one or two goalpost shots Price would have come away with an awful performance.
“May you live in interesting times.”
You’re a Halakite aren’t you? He almost single-handedly stole the game from Ottawa and you still find fault. If they were outshot 78-4 and won 1-0, you would complain that he didn’t control his rebounds as well as he might have or didn’t sweat symmetrically. Halak is the BACK-UP goalie with the Blues now, get over it!!!!
Look. Price is a very good goalie. Halak is as well. The thing to get over is all the drama. Roll with the humour.
The Price-Halak debate is a classic.
I agree habs_54321
Woop-tee-f–in-do Ottawa won, playing basically half an AHL.
Gomez-Gionta-Moen with Kaberle and Markov not a bad line.
Oh, I bet Neil was the school bully — what a clueless toothless tool.
Way to ruin another game Chris Lee — how does he get out of Montreal without getting …….
So after years of trading away every offensive minded player who had a bit of an independent streak, and getting nothing in return, we have White and Bourque playing with Plekanec.
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Ever tried. Ever failed. No matter. Try again. Fail again. Fail better.
Ah but there were many posters who were happy with the trade. Buyers remorse now? Big Time.
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The powers that be in the NHL are probably freaking out that the hated Canadiens may get a decent draft pick.
Oh well. Habs didn’t deserve to win. Price was great. PK was great. Probably wore many key players down. Gorges was insane out there – glad he’s on the Habs.
Played with 3 NHL dman tonight and the standard 5 forwards. Hard to expect any better results. The roster is too light of NHL players. Who to blame?
Injuries and no depth. Sighhhhhhh
Let’s blame management, just for the heck of it.
Yeah, this team is not NHL caliber anymore. Half the forwards should either be in Hamilton or on the 4th line. I’m not lamenting this fact: hopefully PG knew that when he traded Cammelleri and AK away. Gomez, even though he didn’t play, is no longer really a factor out there.
On the D, Campoli was pretty bad. Weber too. I think Weber should probably have stayed in Hamilton longer seeing as he’s regressed this year, but that’s in hindsight.
That’s just how this team is. Pleks and Eller need better wingmates. Leblanc needs to develop more.
I’ll give you a hint…he has a well worn NEXUS card.
***Subbang Baby!!!***
Bourque sucks. Bring back Cammy.
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The good thing about PK is he always makes the games fun. He’s finding his balance and he’s a special player just like Karlsson.
Neil urging the fans on after his scrap with Staubitz – gimme a break. He should have received an additional minor for unsportsmanlike conduct.
I’d give him two minutes for giving certain goon-obsessed HIO posters a chub.
I’m just kidding, people, relax.
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Until you teachers get hab17 under some kind of control, your credibility is on hold
oh that is real funny, nice job Frank.
If everyone did what I do, which is ignore him, he’d be gone in a week.
Teachers call it “behavior extinction”.
Here endeth the lesson.
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But can’t we have fun just this one time Bill? Because I was thinking maybe a priest is needed for an exorcism. Sorry.
^^You’ll need a young priest, and an old priest …
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I thought the Church was trying to clean that up?
Not that there is anything wrong with that…
Bill you say fights don’t turn Mo around? Unfortunatly Neil’s fight did.
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Geez, I am so out of it. Chub – an European freshwater fish?
I had to Google further. Chub – a partial erection.
I’m not sure what you’re implying here, Bill. Something about HIO posters fantasizing about goons and are rewarded with fish that have partial erections? I can assure you I’m not in that camp.
Not very sporting of you, by the way.
I am not sure exactly why, but this post made me helpless with laughter, hahaha!
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JB has that effect on people.
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Im crying!!!!
And I always took you for a “stand up” guy!
We don’t let just anybody into our firm.
“May you live in interesting times.”
You’re absolutely right. I’ve been stood up many a time.
I think you outdid yourself tonight John, bravo sir.
Thanks, Burl’. Been sort out of it of late. My spirit has been wilting seeing the Habs play out the string.
(Gawd, I hope I haven’t just opened the door to another comment by Bill.)
P.S. I must say I am impressed as much by your stamina as by your wit in being able to post so often with comments worth reading. In keeping with the theme of this exchange, I’d have to conclude you’re well-e-quip-ped
I agree. Sports should be more sombre. Everyone needs to be kneeling with their hands clasped while watching games.
All this showmanship and trying to rally the troops is over-rated. Neil should have gone to the dressing room and had a silent moment of reflection on the whole matter instead.
How about playing the game without the artificial theatrics. There should be enough entertainment in the game being played properly — you know, making passes, doing that stickhandling stuff, delivering stiff but legal hits, orchestrating tick-tack-toe plays, reeling off remarkable saves, taking wicked shots — but I digress.
The game has declined so much that we must delight in the showmanship afforded by thugs. After the Senators sucked on all those power plays, Neil should have punched a Canadien and got the crowd back into the game. Missed opportunity. By the playoffs he’ll have figured it out.
There is the adrenalin of your comments and there is the adrenalin of Neil’s moment. I seek to limit neither.
I merely mock yours and await you to mock his.
I’ve already mocked his …
Staubitz was going off on a line change (tired) but got jumped by Neil but did not turtle like some players may have…….
How bad is a team that has bums like Campoli and Weber playing a regular shift. It’s so pathetic how far this organization has fallen. It kills me how a guy like Campoli is sitting around into September, nobody touches him, and then Gauthier signs him and he plays a regular shift for the Habs…so bad.
And I’m still waiting for all those “dirty area goals” that Mr. Gauthier said Bourque was supposed score. If at least Gauthier isn’t gone in the off season, then this team is screwed for a very long time.
How bad? I dunno, 14th in the East?
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Let’s go Ducks!
Nice. Bergie and the RDS crew lamenting that the Habs lead the league in blocked shots. And they are right. It amounts to not having possession of the puck and not being very strong defensively.
EDIT: My mistake. Not being very strong offensively
Exactly..that just shows how soft the Habs are in their own end, it’s a frickin shooting gallery!
The Rangers are fourth. So their weak defensively and lack puck possession, too?
Habs lead the league in blocked shots. One of the best PKs out there. Carey Price is just one game below .500 somehow. They just really can’t score, and 5-on-5, this injury-ravaged roster has simply been outmatched all year.
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It results from having the worst forward corps in the NHL! You don’t block shots when you’re on offence, something this team just has too few players with any skill level to actually go on. The two and a half men line and then Pleks and Eller playing by themselves. Every forward not in that group should be very, very afraid that their NHL experience is OVER.
White? Staubitz? Darche? Moen? Bourque? Noki? LL? AP? Blunder? Gomez? They aren’t even decent AHL players.
Only ten games left.
Thank God.
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8L2Cpy-EZ_Q
Ten wins, probably.
Next year: Stanley Cup: Habs
Super Bowl: Bills
Bills, hehe is Doug Flutie coming back?
After seeing Bills sign Mario Williams, I’d like to see them make a pitch for Peyton Manning. If Ralph Wilson does THAT, then I’ll KNOW hell has frozen over.
true dat
Jim Kelly got them there four years in a row!
“May you live in interesting times.”
World Series: Pirates?
Mets?
LOL atta boy Jim!
Man does this team stink. Great game by Gorges, Price and Pleks to steal a point. The Habs have 5 NHL calibre forwards playing for them right now. Pleks, Cole, Max Pac, DD and Eller. All the rest can be replaced by any group of AHL players and they would be no better and no worse. Perhaps they can populate the 4th line with fans selected at random from the crowd. At the end of the day the stats would be the same. No shots, no goals, nothing worthwhile. LL and AP are at least another season away, Noki can go now. White, meh. Bourque, well at least he earns less than Cammy. He’s a 6′ 2″ powder puff. I won’t pick on Gomez because it was one of his better nights.
on D St Denis looked overmatched most of the night and Campoli was flat out awful.
Solid AHL player for Columbus perhaps.
PG, or whoever replaces him, has some work to do. It’s one thing to replace a forward or two, quite another to replace two complete lines. Gionta will help when he comes back, but none of the others are worth spit.
Ottawa deserves the W..are you kidding…the ref’s deserve the W..
Spend almost a full period on the PK, take out Gomez, Markov and Kaberle. And people bashing the Habs for going to OT.
Your husband may have won, but you can’t be happy with that win.
It was one of those rare moral victories that ended with the losing side actually getting a point — but did they really deserve to?
I would think any bashing going on is directed at certain players who played poorly and deserve to be criticized. It was only the play of the usual stalwarts that salvaged anything for the team.
Absolutely! Pleks, Gorges and Price stole a point. Subban and Emelin helped. the rest of them should be mortified.
… Gomez?
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The refs had nothing to do with it. The Habs deserved most of those penalties. They spent the whole night completely and totally outmatched, Men against boys, and that lead to a ton of hooking, holding, tripping and delay of game penalties because the were always panicking.
The best thing about tonight’s result is that the Bruins fall from 2nd place to 7th. I’ll be cheering for every team that plays them. Man, I’d love to see them fall right out of the playoffs.
It is incredible the free fall they are in.
Most excellent! As bad as tonights snoozefest was, Bruins-Leafs would be worse right about now. 0-0 and still tied after 46 shoot out attempts. All the fans have gone home. No one cares the outcome.
Good effort from some of our key players going forward, nice to see they are not mailing it in.
Lots of inexperience showing on the ice tonight. Good that they get some playing time (St. Denis, Weber, Leblanc) because they’re going to get lots next year.
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I frigging hope not!
Ha, I think they will. Plus Diaz. Thing is apart from Leblanc that playing time may not be in Montreal
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Haha, good lord, eh??
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Nobody wants the players to tank. People want management to understand there is nothing else to prove this season, so be smart.
Give a break to everyone who’s nicked up (ex Cole, Emelin), call up more youngsters from the farm you want to have a look at, play your nb 2 goalie a bit more, and play exciting high-tempo game where the emphasis is on offense. You score goals, you get fans excited, but more often than not, you will lose.
Every team does this in every sport. That’s the way you manage the season when out of the playoffs early. You can’t ask or expect the players to lose on purpose.
And yes the unofficial name of that strategy is, you guess it, tanking.
Ahhh! A Maple Leaf fan I’m guessing…
The Leafs have never been so smart. The only time the tanked they lost the picks. The Habs are the Leafs now. A bunch of garbage points at the end of the season when they don’t matter with the end result being a worse draft pick.
you have not followed the Leafs close enough the past few decades or even the past 10 years if you think both teams are the same.
“The Habs are the Leafs now”
Sacrilegious!
Heresy!
Blasphemy!
Try enlightenment sometime.
Some say enlightenment…others say bad drugs!
I know the difference between sober second thought and intoxicated lack thereof.
Mind you I also was a connoisseur of the finer intoxicants nature has to offer in another life.
Religion is the opiate of the masses after all.
You, sir, are a bright man. Don’t be shocked, you are.
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I want a top pick. It would really suck to suck this bad and have suckers like the Leafs outsuck us down the stretch and suck away our draft pick.
That sounds suspiciously like “If you were any sharper you would cut yourself”. Right?
There are medical procedures capable of removing thorns out of asses you know.
The Penguins invented and perfected it, all the way to multiple Cups.
And in football, look at the Colts this past year. They go from playoffs every year, to 2-14, and surprise, get the big QB prize in the draft next year.
Crosby’s group got one cup, and lost in the finals to Detroit one year earlier. Their Cups in 91 and 92 were Mario’s doing with an assist from Jaromir, and a honourable mention to Alexei Kovalev. Must admit this year’s Penguins are good bets.
“May you live in interesting times.”
Is there actually anyone on the farm they need to have a look at? Seriously, I can’t think of anyone. Name one. The farm? The Habs ARE the farm.
On another note, I’d like to send Campoli and Bourque to the same farm my parents sent my dog to when I was six.
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How would you ever know their name until you get a look at them?
What was the fate of that dog?
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I think we all know what the farm is.
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Nathan Lawson is a pretty good goalie. Mark Mitera has size on defence but seems to play small. Nattinen has drive and some grit, only needs to develop his hands.
“May you live in interesting times.”
Too bad there is a rule limiting callups from the farm to prevent just what you say, thus trying to protect the integrity of the game, what is left. And I believe we have already used our 4 recalls.
The NHL & integrity…???
Yah I figured I would get called on that
That is true, thanks for pointing that out. You still control who you puts out there on the ice, though. No better way to tank than to have Weber and Campoli on the ice together in OT. That was just textbook tanking … unless RC really has no clue.
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I want a top pick. It would really suck to suck this bad and have suckers like the Leafs outsuck us down the stretch and suck away our draft pick.
THere also is emergency callups from juniors where The Flames have a junior callup scoring 3 or 4 goals during his time up with Calgary…….
I think you just have to stop calling it tanking. Tanking would be losing on purpose, and if there was evidence of that, I would think the NHL would take away your first round pick, and that would be the right thing to do.
That said, there’s nothing wrong with evaluating young players in meaningless games near the end of a lost season. If anything, at least they should play with some enthusiasm (unlike Mr Bourque). Given the dearth of talented players in the AHL, I don’t think the Habs have a lot to trial. LL and AP look overmatched and they’re the best the Habs have. But they might as well let them play 17 minutes a night and see what happens. At the very least they will start the season in the AHL next year with a better idea what it takes to play in the show. And let’s be honest, the Bulldogs could probably get 14 shots most nights.
By the same token, it’s time to take the foot off the Price pedal. Let Budjah play half the remaining games; lets see how he does.
NCR, you’re actually advocating the same thing as me. We can call it tanking or something else, but that’s the common name by which it is referred by in the sports world. There is no league where teams are really allowed to ‘lose on purpose’. Teams with nothing to gain down the stretch tend to give their young players more a chance to play and get experience, which by definition will bring you more losses than wins.
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I want a top pick. It would really suck to suck this bad and have suckers like the Leafs outsuck us down the stretch and suck away our draft pick.
For a team to tank on purpose is classless to say the least. I would rather be known to build a good team like The Wings have done. Not through tanking.
Hey look. It’s DEANDALEY/NEWFIE_DOG/PRICEBERG.
What’s going on with Markov? Someone saying he’s hurt, for real?
Dont believe em!
At least until we hear..
Its likely either the puck in the face or the back to back games
he will be playing tomorrow night, they don’t want him playing back to back games yet is all.
PJ Stock raves about Price’s heroics and Josh Gorges stellar D, then goes on to say “Ottawa will not beat the Toronto Maple Leafs if they play like that tomorrow night.”
Just who on Toronto will play like Gorges and Price? Reim Time? The Munster? Phaneuf? Get real, the Laffs are a joke.
I don’t really get the hate-on for PJ here tonight.
The part of HNIC I watched, he was also talking highly of Subban — pointing out some ways he might be more effective, sure — but certainly not dissing him.
Sure some of the the things he says could better thought out, such as your point, but he isn’t an idiot.
He’s better in English than he is in French.
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Bergie changing his tune on Bourque tonight. RDS crew has found their new whipping boy.
Can they actually find footage of him doing anything?
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Bourque is playing well defensively with Pleks on the first PK but not scoring but is replacing Moen quite well……
At least he has physical contact with his opponent as opposed to Cammy. The other parts of the trade are the 2nd in 2013, Patrick Holland and the saved cap space.
I too have noticed that Bourque has been often thrown into a defensive role by the Habs with big minutes on the PK. It doesn’t help his offensive numbers.
Boone asked how a team could have no shots through half a period.
I would suggest that it was because they couldn’t string together two passes in a row through that period, unless you count the ones back and forth behind their own net.
I’m not sure either that the game was wide open. That would imply chances at the other end but mostly the openness involved Montreal barely getting out of their zone and then dumping
the puck into Ottawa’s end.
If the Habs are tanking, somebody forgot to give Josh Gorges the memo. Unbelievable effort level.
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6 shots in the last two periods and OT.
6 shots.
Incredible.
Among our forwards we have Leblanc who ought to be in Hamilton Palushaj, Blunden, Nokelainen, Staubitz who are not NHLers, and White and Bourque who just aren’t that good..
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I’m not sure what those guys did wrong, seems like crapping on them for nothing.
I think he’s just pointing out that half our roster doesn’t belong on an NHL team.
Not blaming them. Those guys try hard, they just are not NHL players. The talent is not there, as evidenced by 6 shots in 45 minutes.
Exactly. They try hard (mostly) but there are like 5-6 talented players on the team.
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That was a fun game!
Gorges’ heroics
A crap load of penalties, couldn’t find our rhythm.
But hey they had something to play for, we were loose!
Plus St.Denis a little exposed on that last play.
Carey was amazing tho
St Denis got exposed for two goals against tonight……
Un-ready Freddy.
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Gorges, what a signing, that guy was heroic!
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I know – 10 blocked shots, insane
Not sure how far the turds go in the playoffs….yawn.
Well, St. Denis has been rushing the forwards at the blue line in both games he played this week so no surprise. Still he played a pretty good game and learned a lot. Like…don’t rush a guy like Alfie when he’s flying.
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So much work to do…….and I don’t want Gainey and Gauthier doing it. They’ve had their chance.
Josh Gorges First Star!!!!
Damn. Carey and Josh deserved better.
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Now he can once again be blamed for not stealing a victory for us. Love that when we score 1 goal and it is his fault.
Hey, we all know that Halak would have had a shutout.
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13 shots, just up his alley.
Hahaha ZING
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Nice one. Still laughing.
43 last night.
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You have to brush up on your trolling. Elliott was in net.
While playing with one hand behind his back.
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Yeah. They deserve a few more elite players on their team. You know. Like the kind that high draft picks garner.
Not awful to see Bruins go down. We don’t take a loss. All in all not too bad.
Boucher is useless. We are seeing what he is doing with Tampa Bay with a lot more offensive team then the Habs. If he doesn’t have that same offensive it only reasons that he would be a worst coach.
St. Denis and Weber out there, lol, Cunneyworth not even trying at this point, haha.
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GD it is about time Ottawa won this game the Habs hand it to them on a silver plater. You know they wanted them to win to screw the Bruins. This team was drunk, they been drinling all the way on the bus. They didn’t care and still got a point lol.
Well the tank supporters are happy tonight & the CBC tools are wet!
I iz not happy no.
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We didn’t need the point though….
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Campoli and Weber need to sit next game.
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At least the Habs only got one point. But, what a crap team Ottawa is, enjoy getting bounced in the 1st round.
Play horrible, ugly hockey. Check.
Lose the game. Check.
Get a point that hurts us for next year. Check.
Ok, I guess we’re done for tonight.
Worst. Case. Scenario.
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Yay! Everyone wins.
Pooey!
Still hurts a bit.
Oooh, St. Denis.
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Aah well.
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Deserved win
Now why couldn’t you have done that in regulation?
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