If the Canadiens played 82 games against the Senators …
Even 20 would have helped.
An easy win that was settled early with Erik Cole’s hat trick inside of six minutes.
That’s 30 for the Canadiens’ most consistent player.
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What’s wrong with Cole? 20 minutes and nothing to show for it. Hope he can shake it off & wake up for the 3rd.
Trade him, while his value is high.
DO IT PG!!!
***Subbang Baby!!!***
It seems for every Habs player that does well, another goes to crap (even if they have played well before). Imagine if Gionta wasn’t injured and Cammalleri was playing just as well as his first habs season. With Pacioretty & Cole the habs would’ve potentially had four 30 goal scorers on this team and a couple of 20 goal scorers with a better Pleks and A. Kosts. Defense would still be suspect but imagine the results if the Habs could have more than one line scoring for even half the season.
Vid, you answered your own question. Defence needs an overhaul.
If those things you mentioned happened, JM would’ve still been the coach. That alone will negate the possibility of having four 30 goal scorers scenario with his Defend The Tie™ tactics.
Can someone get Potvin a box of tissues please, I can’t take it anymore
“It’s not an obsession, It’s a way of life..”
I find him hilarious when the Sens are losing, but just plain obnoxious when they’re winning.
I think he wants to convene a grand jury to find out why that Alfie high-stick goal was disallowed!
EVery bit as bad as a colour guy as he was good as a great NHL D-man….sheesh..and he’s further infecting Dean Brown into this endless whining about every call syndrome..It’s tiring just listening to them
Had a lot of respect for him as a player but he is in Edwards league in the booth.
Is Bourque french for Gomez?
Hahaha … Hope Ray Bourque isn’t reading this.
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BORK!
Sorry man I just get a kick out of this.
He’s channeling the other #27.
He may need a new converter then, because I ain’t watching the same channel.
Spezza is really lucky Emelin can’t fight.
Sucker punch by Spezza…this game stinks
Double roughing? LOL
Did he say f@#$k twice?
Turris starts some crap he can’t finish, abd Blunden gets the extra two? WTF?
Just wait til IQ of a toad head Neil gets out of the box
Does Ryan White – take away all the hockey skills now – remind anyone else of Bobby Clarke?
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Now that you mention it .. yes… same kinda smile/grin.
Size wise must be similar too.
The toothless grin reminds me of the shots of clarke way back when.
When your schedule has teams playing 3 times in 10 days, this is what you get.
Does anyone really think that if the Habs fight Neil and Konopka in the third it will stop them from running at the Habs?
Clue: Staubitz and White fought Konopka and Neil tonight, and the Sens are still running the Habs. Do with this clue what you will.
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I guess it would be better for them to take it and skate off the ice with their tales between their legs.
I assume you mean “tails”. I also assume you are being sarcastic. You could, on the other hand, try answering the question.
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yes I do mean tails.
You want me to answer a loaded question? Your question is veiled and everyone knows it. You don’t like fighting, I get it.
The question is not “veiled” at all. It’s right out there.
It’s not just that I don’t “like” fighting (which I don’t outside of armed combat for geopolitical purposes), I am questioning how useful it is as a hockey strategy. I am looking for a response to that. If the Habs have already fought the Sens’ goons (after the score was out of reach), and they are STILL running the Habs, what has the fighting accomplished?
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@Bill
IMO fighting acts as an outlet. I would argue there is no sport (stick and ball) as intense as hockey (yes, not even rugby). Without the emotional outlet that fighting provides I argue there would be more retaliatory/revenge hits from behind, vicious two hand slashes, stealth elbows to the head etc. Notice how when Bourque was forced into fighting in the game against the Caps. (his second or third game in a Habs uni) after the fight it was done (the Caps’ required vengeance over the Bourque/Backstrom hit); Bourque was required to answer the bell, he did, and the Washington Capital/Bourque chapter was put to rest.
To answer your question specifically, what has the fighting in this game accomplished? Well, if it wasn’t White or Staubitz I would argue Konopka or Neil would be taking their frustrations out on Subban, Price, Patch etc. I’d rather have White and Staubitz take care of that nonsense than the aforementioned.
Ok, still don’t agree, but I understand where you’re coming from. I don’t think there is any way to establish what you’re arguing though. The Sens have been after our skilled players all night regardless.
But I appreciate the response.
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@Bill
cheers, I suppose a “agree to disagree” is in order.
I don’t see Staubitz fighting again tonight, seems to me he is still favouring his hand.
In games like this with Ottawa doing what they’re doing, the team will have to stand up for itself at some point, the league endorses this type of defense mechanism. We have guys paid to do that now Bill, whether we like it or not.
Staubitz is fighting basically every second game, which is a pace that is not sustainable. Most NHL goons go about every four games or so. He’s fighting for a job somewhere next year, and I get that, but it’s too bad that his job is even a job. He’s trying to do too much right now.
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So if the sens are going to run the habs either way, maybe a little pushback is good,no?
Obviously it means that we need an enforcer who is an even less effective hockey player than Staubitz.
A better question is if we didn’t have Staubitz or White on our roster, who would Neil and Konopka be gooning? Subban? Max?
That’s what was happening earlier in the year.
Neil and Konopka are gooning everyone. Konopka ran Price. He doesn’t seem to mind if he has to fight someone about it, y’know?
Who on Detroit is fighting these guys?
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Who on Vancouver pushed back against Boston last year in the finals?
There are lots of ways to win. Detroit does it one way. I wish our team was like Detroit. Until it is, and until we stop getting gooned, at least we aren’t rolling over.
Small victories.
Jersey Toronto tied at 3 in third period.
No. Jezus, Toronto, can’t you do anything right?
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Go Jerseyyyyyy.
Hey, think of the Tankers for once Frank!
Leblanc & Eller should be getting more ice time
Best defenders in Ottawa’s zone are the two linesmen!
I can’t believe how bad our offense is this year, and yet we have two 30 goal scorers. Crazy.
If someone told me last year that we’d have two 30 goals scorers this year, I would have guessed Cammalieri and someone else, and I’d assume we had a good offense, and were in the playoffs.
I like the “truculent line ” of White at center and Staubitz and Blunden on the wings.
ability is what you’re capable of doing.
attitude determines how you do it
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@Habitant in Surrey
Okay I read your response. Here is my response to your response.
1) My name is actually Bill. You don’t have to refer to me as ‘Bill’ The inverted commas make me feel less real, and it gives me anxiety.
2) To the main part, I didn’t intend my comment as a “swipe” at you or anything. I like your comments and enjoy our exchanges. It was late when I read the post, and I was responding to the idea that someone criticized Timmins for being American when he is not, and blaming the Habs’ draft record on that. If I misunderstood you on that, I apologize, and it’s my bad.
3) If your main point was that the Habs don’t scout Quebec adequately, that’s different. But I disagree anyway. I’m sure the Habs have as many Q scouts as any other team (feel free to correct me if I am wrong).
4) If I object to anything in your post, it is that you state that others can misquote, but I should not be allowed to “get away with it”. Hahaha, why shouldn’t I be allowed to get away with it when everyone else does?? And furthermore, I didn’t QUOTE you, much less misquote you!
5) I hope this addresses your concerns! Again, if you felt my post was some kind of insult in your direction, that was certainly not my intent, and I would go further to say I would never mean to insult anyone on this site (except for that ONE guy I once called an idiot, but he really was), especially a regular and good poster like yourself.
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Who was the one guy?
Not me. Right?
edit: save to continue spewing non sense.
Ha, I totally forget. Not a regular poster. Random Price-basher. I just remember it because a) he was so stupid, and b) I hesitated to post it because as a rule I am polite.
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Zack Smith is 6’2″, 212lbs. Real tough guy to go after Desharnais like that.
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Jeez sometimes Pierre Houde is such a pvssy He keeps bitching about scrums after the whistle. It’s like he never saw that, ever….
He should watch hockey games from the 70s….
agreed
This after-whistle “hugging” is killing the game.
Agreed. It becomes terribly boring after a very short time.
The first 10 minutes were great.
Blame the success of Dancing with the Stars for that.
Wasn’t PJ stock in that?
Battle of the Blades. Embarrassed to know this information,.
Great hustle by Paloosh there.
Saint John and Shawinigan reeving it up tonight in their march to the Memorial Cup.
Ottawa is targeting anyone less than 5’9″.
Normal, why not. It’s not against the law. Habs just have to drop the gloves at one point in the 3rd and take care of business.
.: Wondering why Ottawa decided to play a goon game tonight. What a pathetic performance. And targeting Markov is the lowest of lows.
White-Moen-Blunden/Staubitz 4th line next year. Habs don’t take no more crap
Emelin on that last flurry in front of Price, just bulldozed right through the Senator player and took the puck. We so badly need 1-2 more of him.
Agreed on the Malone statement. Thinking the same thing earlier
Two thoughts:
1) That Markov setup for Campoli is why we won’t have the 30th ranked PP in the league next year.
2) I don’t think I’ve seen a single big Emelin hit since Malone went all psycho-b@tch on him.
I don’t wanna see Markov out there tonight the way this is going. Maybe some PP or if it gets close again
Habs stalled @ 4
Boone the PP needs a better Stream!
Anyone else enjoying the random audio of players yapping back and forth on TSN?
I love that stuff!
Was that not contact on Price.
These two ref have lost control.
Now the OTT announcers are bitching AGAIN that White refused to fight their heavyweight goons Neil and Konopka.
These guys are only better than Jack Edwards.
Let me guess. Dean Brown? He is only a touch less annoying than Jack Edwards, in my opinion. He thinks he’s pretty clever.
Loves the sound of his own voice.
Potvin perpetually sounds like he’s drunk.
Dont ruin your beautiful hair Ryan…lol
@Habitant in Surrey
Okay I read your response. Here is my response to your response.
1) My name is actually Bill. You don’t have to refer to me as ‘Bill’
The inverted commas make me feel less real, and it gives me anxiety.
2) To the main part, I didn’t intend my comment as a “swipe” at you or anything. I like your comments and enjoy our exchanges. It was late when I read the post, and I was responding to the idea that someone criticized Timmins for being American when he is not, and blaming the Habs’ draft record on that. If I misunderstood you on that, I apologize, and it’s my bad.
3) If your main point was that the Habs don’t scout Quebec adequately, that’s different. But I disagree anyway. I’m sure the Habs have as many Q scouts as any other team (feel free to correct me if I am wrong).
4) If I object to anything in your post, it is that you state that others can misquote, but I should not be allowed to “get away with it”. Hahaha, why shouldn’t I be allowed to get away with it when everyone else does?? And furthermore, I didn’t QUOTE you, much less misquote you!
5) I hope this addresses your concerns! Again, if you felt my post was some kind of insult in your direction, that was certainly not my intent, and I would go further to say I would never mean to insult anyone on this site (except for that ONE guy I once called an idiot, but he really was), especially a regular and good poster like yourself.
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LOL Love the poll, and its results
Why can’t Molson hire some hot chicks to clear the ice during Tv time outs?
PG nixed the idea. Something about wanting to keep the testosterone level down in the building… check out the team he built.
Time for Boone’s infamous line.. “Next goal wins” or is it a more tepid “Next goal is big”?
I’m stuck watching the Ottawa feed, it’s brutal.
Couple of relentless shills crying over every call on Ottawa and badmouthing every MTL does.
Even if I was a fan of OTT, I couldn’t stand to listen to these two idiots.
Same. It is unbelievable. Non stop whining.
Many OTTAWA fans would agree with you. Potvin sucks crap…period and Dean has decided whining over EVERY call against the Sens will curry him favour and get him a job with that organization. The call isn’t coming and he’s getting desparate since the CBC regards him as a last resort call for play by play duties.
Wow, I wondered if Cole broke a record for the fastest hat trick – not even close.
21 seconds by Bill Mosienko. WTF
That is over any time in the game though, right? What is the record for the fastest hat trick to start the game?
Just as I was typing they called it off… Phew!
Well, I think we’re even now in the ‘could have been called good goals’ category.
The stink of panic is again palpable!
NO Goal! Esy call!
Wanna bt that one will count?
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Anyone else getting the “synthetic ice rink endorsed by Georges Laraque” ad on the page?
Synthetic ice, synthetic player.
Saw that ad before and thought What the Heck, shouldn’t it be a skating player that endorses such a product.
It appears a top notch Nascar Pit Crew team may have done repairs to the Tank.
No sorry take that back Bill France inspected the repairs and deemed them illegal!
Team still painful to watch even with a 3 goal lead.
Haven’t seen a post from Chris in a while, I trust he is doing well and is just tired of the season?
Could the Habs blow this?
Well it’s a goal then!
Markov is horrible tonight!
Is it ok to say hope we WIN and (gasp gasp gasp LAFFS win( choke choke ).
U know the TANK thing and all!
http://www.theglobeandmail.com/news/opinions/roy-macgregor/answering-montreals-prayers-st-patrick-ascends-to-the-habs/article2380034/
Roy MacGregor seems to support Roy as head coach.
according to nhl.com game report, 10 minute misconducts to foligno and subban, 5 to white, 5+2 to neil.
edit – 10 more to neil.
Neil is a classless punk. He should have got a misconduct for tossing the linesmen
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He did.
Should have got the game. Punk is right but I may not say it to his face!
“man, I love winnin’; you know, it’s like better than losin’?”-
Ebby Calvin “Nuke” Laloosh
Couldn’t agree more. To hear him talk though, he plays with tremendous respect and honour. He considers himself a tough, stand-up guy that never plays dirty.
You can always count on him to pull some kind of stunt. Tonight, of course, serves as perfect evidence of what a hypocrite he is.
All Neal wants from Whitey is his two front teeth . . . his two front teeth . . .
Not sure what the consequence is for a Sen pushing an official. I lost my chart … I know for a Hab it’s a season suspension … and a Bruin it’s a bottle of wine from the league commissioner.
Next year I want a coach that yells at the lousy reffing in this league, like 90% of other coaches…Betwee JM and RC, these crappy refs get away with murder!!! Yelling at refs works….
Roy would solve that problem in about 5 mins
And the refs would begin tuning him out ten seconds after that. And his players would start being distracted by the It’s All About St Patrick Show about five seconds after THAT.
Non merci.
I disagree
you are free to do so if you like
but first, talk to someone who has reffed at the competitive level
We still have Blunden.. time for him to step up in the toughness dept. It’s gonna get rough.. cant leave it all to White. And you know Subban is a marked man!
agreed, Bourque may have to step up as well. Hasn’t fought in a CH uniform since his first game against the Caps.
Bourque isn’t a scrapper though. He plays physical but isn’t a fighter. I think he only has 3 nhl fights
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7.
http://www.hockeyfights.com/players/2125
He hasn’t played consistently physical since his first game . I hope he steps us tonight. The Sens are gonna bring ‘truculence’.
Toss Neil, Knopka, Staubitz and White and the game will be a lot tamer afterwards.
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Who wants to bet the Habs blow a 4-1 lead. 2 more periods to go, you know it’s coming.
This has shootout loss written all over it.
LOL!
With D like this sure. Markov almost cost us a goal on the PP
Pete Rose, is that you?
With soft D like this, sure. Markov almost cost us a goal
Staubitz and White……. Can’t wait to play Boston next year……….
Neil’s out for five. That’s good.
Richard R
Chris Neil is a human garbage can.
he’s great, wish he was on this team.
I agree… wish he was a HAB. But since he is NOT.. he is a human garbage can.
lol, fair enough
Never….I don’t want an idiot who tosses his hands up after every fight like he won…..he is an idiot
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Gonna be a rough 2nd period. Is Staubitz gone for the game?
Neil should get tossed for that
If Neil isn’t out of the game for that, I’m going to scream.
Take off your own helmet Neal, you ugly Ape!
4-1 after 1 period, the worst lead in hockey?
That disallowed goal may come back to haunt us?
oh ya, the next 2 periods are going to be fun
This game could get nasty.
If they manage to lose this game, they’ll REALLY deserve that lottery pick.
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Neilanderthal
Bourque did nothing to stop that goal. Zero.
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The Classic Montreal D again!
If you saw Bishop, he was shaking HIS head which means HE thought it was in but apparently Toronto thought otherwise……