Liveblog: Shootout L … again

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Brian Gionta salvages at least a point from a dismal night at the Bell Centre.
Columbus?
Really??

Columbus had a 28-20 shot advantage through 65 minutes

The Shootout:

DD: Wide

Johansen: Save

Max-Pac: Save

Nash: Goal!

Gionta: Save

Must-reading: Plow through John Branch’s superb New York Times series on Derek Boogaard. Then try to tell me why fighting shouldn’t be banned in the NHL.

This is how Pierre LeBrun would have done realignment

1,123 Comments

  1. edtheh says:

    It’s not complicated. The last great GM we had was Serge Savard and that was in 1995 when he was replaced Rejean Houle(the beer salesman).

    Career stats;
    Jacques Demers .607% the year he won the Cup
    Alain Vigneault .570% (not good enough for the Habs)
    Claude Julien .596% (also not good enough for the Habs but won the Cup)
    Both in the Cup last year.

    Guy Boucher .628% (the one we let get away)
    One we should have jumped on;
    Bruce Boudreau .672%

    The one to never have won a darn thing and never will…….
    Jacques Martin .475%

    It’s true, we are missing some valuable experienced D-men. It’s true Hamrlik would have been good to keep. It’s true we haven’t had a big centreman in a very long time. It’s true we have some talented players.
    BUT, we don’t have a winning coach with a winning formula, with a successful record to take this team to the next level even if we get all our D-men back.

    Is there really anything to discuss here? The stats speak for themselves.

  2. Hab-Q says:

    Now that they have been beaten by 3 of the 4 bottom teams they have ushered in the new era of the bottom-feeding Montreal Canadians.

    Now I know how it feels to be a Leaf fan.

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    “I went to a fight the other night and a hockey game broke out”

    ~Rodney Dangerfield

  3. pat s says:

    some of you guys are too much–when they win you say they are great when they lose they are garbage–take a side and stop flip flopping. Me, I said I will not support this team regardless if they win or lose b/c of their system this mangement wants to use–its a circus in montral and all they are doing are appeasing to the fans that want that tic tac toe play nice hockey right now–give it a rest, this team is made to play in KHL noit NHL

    now some of you are you going to rap back, take perrsonal comments but sorry the evidence is on the ice

  4. ffenliv says:

    There’s nothing left, they have to fire JM. I’m the last person to say the coach is the only problem, but I think he causes a number of them (exhibit a: the ‘power’ play), and it’s the simplest attempt at a fix. A new coach may not make it better, but there’s very little to make worse here.

    Fire him in the morning, get someone, anyone in there for the rest of the year, and see where it goes. Preferably a coach with some offensive-minded ideas.

  5. ZimHabwe says:

    First : This is going to sound weird but I think the Montreal Canadiens will be fine if Spacek (not Markov because we have to consider him unavailable) recovers and returns soon. Why? Because Spacek is above .500 for the games he’s played. Which tells us that while our defense youngsters are doing a commendable job plugging the holes, we can’t deny that we need more solid veteran presence to school these boys. That is why we miss Hamr, Markov, Wiz et al. On many nights we have a hard time creating chances simply because we can’t get the puck out of our zone fast enough and well enough. I don’t know about you but I’d like to see our offense playing less D and more O.
    Second: I think PK and Gill should be paired up together again. Why? Because Gill is like a daddy who lets his boy run free but always keeping an eye for possible danger. PK is the risk-loving to Gill’s risk-averse player which makes for a very good combination. This strategy – I think – allowed PK to create more scoring opportunities last year. Besides, we need to be entertained at this point with all this lullaby type hockey we’re watching. I’d rather watch an entertaining L than a snoozefest W. Worst case scenario, we keep losing and fall to the bottom. Wouldn’t we just love that?

  6. t1tan5 says:

    Ok so Leblanc plays well in LA and sets up the winning goal (which as a beauty). Reward from PG: stay with the team and play in your home town. Reward from JM: demoted to fourth line and play less than 5 minutes.

  7. kmachabs27 says:

    ive been waiting for a guy like emelin on the this team for a while, not afraid of anything and lays some bonecrushing hits, hes nott gunna get you your points but hes tough as nails and will be a great 4th/5th defencemen in the future and if hes scratched when markov campoli or spacek come back so help me god .

  8. habstrinifan says:

    The answer seems to be get rid of Subban tomorrow.

    As I keep saying, we have the team we deserve.

  9. vegas says:

    If we don’t fire Martin this year but give him an assitant manager job, do we still have to pay him the 2million clause?

  10. nova scotia vees says:

    Such insightful commentary…”what’s to love in Nova Scotia?” Well if you have a few days I’ll start telling you all about this great place. Of course, I hope you stay the H. wherever you are.
    And since when is it not okay on this page of “opinion” to express an “opinion?” Such intolerance….did I hit a nerve, per chance?

  11. roady says:

    When the do the realignment next year I think this Habs team should be in the Western Conference, North Division, of the AHL, maybe, just maybe they could compete…but in reality, I doubt it…

    take your drink to the end of the bar buddy…come on now, don’t be a fool…

  12. RockinRey says:

    There is something just not right with the CH. This team is missing something (goal scoring, heart, bangers). PG has to see what we are seeing . They dont even have a guy in the top 30 in scoring.

    • shakey says:

      intensity. this team has none, and it translates to no will to win, and a team that is content to play to the level of their opponent, and let them dictate the pace of play, in our building!

      i think they miss muller for that exact reason – JM has no intensity, but that’s ok if someone else on the staff brings it. it seems like it is missing on the bench, and on the ice. would be interesting to hear from someone who can get in the room and see if it’s there. i know an even keel is good, but we need some fire. we need a disturber, or someone who can get them going. maybe ryan white can bring it, but he has to be able to be allowed to set that tone. right now, the coaching staff would probably frown on it.

      so frustrating.

    • roady says:

      This is just a badly coached bad hockey team …period ! There is no communication on the bench and disarray on the ice. It is quite plain for all to see that these guys don’t have a plan to win, they have a plan of how not to lose and when it comes down to it you can’t win trying not to lose. You play to win ! There is no other reason to play the game other than to win. You need a head coach with an offensive mind to move forward and be in control, not one with a defensive backwards approach and out of control. When you back up, you’re always gonna be in your defensive zone, defending, and you won’t be scoring very many goals from there. Always chasing and being chased…you can’t win that way, it will not happen.

      We have some very talented players on this team who can score goals and are offensive minded and really want to win,really want to score and really want to win. I think MaxPac is one of those players, I think Eric Cole is one of those players, and I know David Desharnais is one of those players as is Carey Price and Josh Gorges. Lars Eller, Mike Cammalleri, Alexie Emelin, PK, Hal Gill, Brian Gionta, Tomas Plekanec, AK, Travis Moen, Louie Leblanc, and the rest of them, they want to win, but they are not being led to win, they are being taught by this coach how not to lose and it aint’ workin’…it never will. They are being held back by this boring systematic defensive minded coach. I’m not saying they are contenders for the cup or anything, ’cause, well, there just ffing not. But, they should be able to compete for a playoff spot and on paper they have the talent…problem is the people running the team do not have the will to win.The owner, Geoff Molson, in my view doesn’t really care …deep down… he doesn’t care. The rink is sold out, he’s making millions, MILLIONS of dollars even with one of the highest payrolls in the league. The GM and the head coach have never won…never, and they are proving over and over again that they still don’t know how to win and they have been doing it for years YEARS FFS !!

      We are not making the post season with these people running the show, even if we did, we’d be on the arse end of a spot and gone in the first round.

      I have been a Hab fan for over 40 years, I’ve seen the Montreal Canadiens win 17 Stanley Cups….17 of ‘em, shit, some of you poor bastards haven’t seen 1 and you aren’t gonna see one for quite some time unfortunately. I may never see another one the way this is going, but you guys…you don’t even know what it’s like and that makes me sad for you, it really does. My son…he loves the Habs with a passion, he knows the history, he’s read everything about the team and it’s glorious past. He knows the pride this organization had, and the great players and coaches associated with Le Club de Hockey Canadien, he loves ‘em, but he’s never seen them win. It makes me sick to see what has transpired with is club over the years…SICK,…sick to point that, and I hate to say it, but I am beginning not to care if they ever win another Stanley Cup. I can’t believe I said that, I never thought I ever would even be capable of even thinking it, but I’m tired fella’s, I’m tired of mediocrity, I’m tired of coming close, year in year out middle of the pack, struggling to make the post season, trading away prospects and picks for a quick fix to make a run, I’m tired of making run, I want to finish on top just fu@#ing once for a change. Gawd dammit we damn well deserve at least one more, at least for some of us, but more for the ones that haven’t seen 1. I feel for you lads.

      This leadership group will not be able to do this for us fans, it’s the truth and if any of you think otherwise…you’re ffing dreaming. These guys don’t have it…it’s right there in front of your face people, you’ve seen it first hand for years now, what is it 18 now, I just forget. I’ve seen them win in every decade since I was born up until the year 2000 kicked in. It’s embarrassing really, Geoff Molson, Pierre Gauthier, and Jacques Martin are loser’s…you can’t win with loser’s. It’s time, time to change the guard, time to change the face of this once proud franchise into what it once was, not that they will ever be returned to there former glory as I and some others have witnessed, but back into something respectable that we can all appreciate, something we can be proud of again…winning, a winning tradition with passion and heart and the will to compete, for sticking up for each other with toughness and skill, to aim for the top and not settle for the middle or coming close, that just ‘aint good enough, and speaking of enough…I’m done. Nothing changes if nothing changes.

      take your drink to the end of the bar buddy…come on now, don’t be a fool…

  13. alwayssunny says:

    That JM press conference said a lot in one minute about what is wrong with the whole picture in Montreal. Who in the name of god was the reporter who asked first of all a fair question – why do the Habs play to to the level of their opponents – and then in the next breath he was licking Martin’s feet “oh no sire I meant why are you so good against the good teams? please don’t overlook me next time i raise my hand, i didnt mean to take that tone”. Seriously, I almost puked.

    Go to a scrum after a flyers loss or bruins or NYR or any city with self respecting beat writers, that fool would have been laughed out of the room. It’s bad enough Habs fans have to put up with the utter neglect of the product, but the people who are supposedly paid to review the situation, and get honest answers, are more worried about snuggling up to players in the locker room and not losing friends. Here’s a question no one is asking. “Hey Gauthier, when you fired Pearn you said it wasn’t an isolated move it was part of some major changes. Then the Habs won 3 games and you went back to your office. Where are those changes? There hasn’t been a single one.”

  14. Rickly33 says:

    Here’s a thought, where would PK be if it weren’t for Hal gill last year? In Hamilton?

    • vegas says:

      PK played 32 + minutes with a +1, what else do you want from the kid. Over the last 10 games or so he has been awesome

      Gill was a -2 with 15 minutes. I just can’t take this guy anymore, and stop saying he is a monster on the penalty kill, while he was away we gave up a total of 0 goals shorthanded. just can’t wait until Spacek and Campoli get back. I hope JM sits him but unfortunatley I highly doubt it

    • habstrinifan says:

      In a perverse way I would love for P.G and the gang to trade P.K. And maybe people like you who want to dump on a 2nd yr kid who is NOT playing with 1% of his natural gifts, will be wringing their hans as he flourishes elsewhere.

      I may be totally wrong. P.K may be the biggest bust. But it would be great to find out in the proper environment. Maybe then habs fan will have the epiphany they need….. Something is WRONG withthe way ALL our young players eventually become a bust HERE.

      P.K has overcome and grown at every stage. Maybe he is a bust. But then again maybe he might not be.

      It would serve habs fans like you for the answer to come in another sweater.

  15. Rad says:

    Bulldogs are last in the AHL. No help coming from the farm.

  16. HardHabits says:

    Martin rolled 3 lines again

    nokia 6:16
    leblanc 4:48
    darche 5:59

    subban 32:17

    • Wops says:

      We were down a goal. No need for the 4th line.

      Subban, only D with Gorges that is top 4 material in the team. Happy he gets that much ice time. despite mistakes.

      • HardHabits says:

        Rolling three lines doesn’t work.

        • Wops says:

          And why not? St. Louis beat Detroit and their fourth line play about the same time… Seems to work.

          Plus are you really telling me nokelainen and darche could have helped???

          EDIT: But I see your point, detroits third and fourth line all played less than 8 mins. Clearly rolling at 2 lines doesnt work for detroit. Bad coaching there too?

        • Mark C says:

          Boll 7:03
          Letestu: 9:08
          MacKenzie: 10:51

          Nikitin 29:57

          Seemed it worked for the Blue Jackets or does that extra shift or two a period make all the difference?

      • JoeC says:

        that would work if we where down a goal the whole game, which we wernt..

        JM is just terrible.

        • Wops says:

          Who cares about the 4th line. Honestly. I’m sad louis didnt play more, but it was not a game where we could use him profusely.

          • HardHabits says:

            Look at the 4 game winning streak line-up. Darche-Nokia-Blunden playing solid 4th line minutes that at least brought some crash and bang all the while being defensively responsible. That isn’t the only thing though. There was also a nice aggressive two man fore-check from the other lines and good all around attacking creating turn overs. So not the System.

            Since the 3rd period of the Ottawa game the Habs have been right back to JM’s System.

            JM is a recidivist. Rolling three lines is part of it.

            Playing Subban 32+ minutes in one of his worst games of the season is just the icing on the cake.

            Just wait until Gomez is back playing top line minutes in all situations and on the PP coughing up the puck for the opposition to score.

            You’d think the Habs were trying to tank.

      • roady says:

        sure coulda used Louie a bit more, he’s a keeper.

        take your drink to the end of the bar buddy…come on now, don’t be a fool…

  17. edtheh says:

    Jackets Win!!!
    After years of mediocrity, it’s still impossible to get used to. Decades of bad trades, bad drafting, horrible scouting, terrible coaching, bad decisions upon bad decisions over so many years, will take this team 5-10 years to rebuild. Saddled with long contracts to aging small underachievers certainly won’t help. Not signing quality young players such as +12 Georges or Kostitsyn while signing unhealthy Markov backs up the bad decision making. Julien, Vigneault, Boucher and now Muller, more bad decisions with no vision.
    Nothing to show in Hamilton with out quality prospects clearly highlights our drafting and scouting weakness. A sold out Bell Centre won’t force any moves from the 2nd most profitable team in the NHL. There is no urgency.

  18. RGM says:

    *le sigh* Another loss against a bottom-dweller. This what separates good teams from mediocre teams: winning the games you should win. The division is obviously a write-off, and it’ll be another scratch-and-claw affair for a 6th-8th spot. Wouldn’t it be nice to have a relatively easy night watching the Habs where it’s never in doubt for our heroes?
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  19. doogie says:

    Molson is a down to earth, smart, great owner! Let’s put it this way, if any of us had the smarts to buy this team for well over $500 mill, we’d take a long term approach, rather than a knee jerk reaction like what we’re witnessing at the moment.

    Give it time, new administration, coaches and players will turn this thing around. We want immediate change, a smart leader is going to see how the current arrangements stack up. It’s clearly inadequate, leaking oil and poorly stocked….and, changes will be made. Patience for this team is the only virtue.

    • HardHabits says:

      The saner people are preaching patience. The fear is another knee-jerk reaction sends this team into perpetual mediocrity.

      It’s like a rubber band.

    • SeriousFan09 says:

      He’s not done anything to show he isn’t about money. Notable ticket price hike for an average product and having his lawyers attack restaurants and websites for using the CH.

      - I shall always remember Captain Koivu. Habs and Hockey.
      SF09 on Twitter

      • LA Loyalist says:

        It would be comforting to see a sign from Molson’s that hockey is at least equal in importance to selling beer… the logo thing (free promotion for the brand, basically, what you pay PR firms to get) is very disturbing and worth discussion by the commentariat.

        The loser point it getting very old, because it builds a false sense of accomplishment.

      • Hockey Socks says:

        Since Molson has took over, the atmosphere at the Bell just hasn’t been the same for regular season games. This season has been the worst.

  20. chemic says:

    The Wiz was great tonight, wasn`t he?

  21. JoeC says:

    PK played 32 mins tonight holy crapp

    Gorges 27

    Diaz 24

    Emelin 22 (even though yet again our best d)

    Gill 15 (ya one thing Jm is doing right)

    Weber 8 for being terrible

    SO why does Diaz still get more icetime then Emelin, when Diaz is getting worse every game.

    Oh one more stat that makes perfect sence

    Louis Leblanc, a team low 4 mins

    WHY THE HELL DID WE BOTHER KEEPING HIM UP< FFS DARCHE THE POOP HAD MORE ICETIME

  22. nova scotia vees says:

    Team is dreadful. And why did one poster “thank” Carey Price for the win? The Price love here is hilarious. He stops a few shots from one of the worst teams in the league and somehow he is a hero. I detest the Bruins, but watched Thomas shine again against the Pens last night. No slow reaction from him, and no rebounds kicked directly out to the other team.

  23. BeachHabFan says:

    - too much time for pk
    sooooo many solvable problems
    - not enough time for eller/ak/moen/LL
    - weber needs to sit a game or something to get his head screwed on right
    - cammy needs to take bodychecking lessons and stop cuddling everyone
    - max, cole, moen need to make like emelin and run over a few more people
    - pk needs to simplify his game and play fewer minutes

  24. timothy13 says:

    Wow, another L and I really don’t feel a connection, upset, passion, disgust, fatigue and or anger because being a Habs fan means, well, sometimes, a season will mean the team will not do well. On paper I suppose the Habs have depth but on the ice it is a different story. SO, forget it, Price is too impatient, and goes down too often and is soft and too easy to read. The Habs can not score so gamble that they can score an extra point in OT but often they can not. This L @ the Bell Centre illustrated a squad of players that had no focus and drive. I think it is time to sing the blues and wish for the season to end because this season is finished. It began in preseason and never really got better….

  25. Rickly33 says:

    Also said time for PK to go, reached his peak, that’s as good as it gets.

  26. Rickly33 says:

    What do you all have to say about that stinker! Oh wait a minute, but we got one point right? I always said, I really hope I’m wrong, but I’m not! Leaf fans a laughing for F&@$ sake.

  27. TheChangeling says:

    Possibly PK’s worst game as a Hab. I cringed when he was out there once we tied the game late in the 3rd. Martin was eager to keep him off the ice at times last year, tonight would’ve been one of those nights to keep him on the bench. Speaking of JM, he’s never been the right coach for this team. Still I respect what this team has done with him in the last two years. Some of the comments on this site are almost sick with the full-on hate thrown at this guy…. but yes, cut him loose please. Something needs to give quick, or post-season hopes will diminish. Goddamn, I really thought this was the year the boys would be among the top in the league. I was banking on it. I still feel like we have the roster to make a statement, but the players look disinterested and Jacques Martin coaching is just as disinterested as his demeanor. EMELIN IS INCREDIBLE! NO ENGLISH, NO EXPIERENCE ON NHL SIZED RINKS, NO ONE TO TALK TO!!! The best hitter the Habs have had since Souray, possibly. I’m very, very impressed!!!

  28. HardHabits says:

    Who inherited the worse mess, Obama or PG?

  29. habs001 says:

    maybe the talent level is just not as good as some posters think…every team has a dozen good games a year where they look really good but the better teams play at a high level more often than teams whose talent is not that good..

  30. LL-not the hockey player ;) says:

    Just finished watching the game. I didn’t follow the blog and haven’t read the comments. The Blue Jackets are not a crappy team. Their results so far have been crappy.

    AK, Price, Emelin, Gionta all great. It could’ve easily been a win, just as the last game against LA could’ve been a loss.

    No shots on goal for long periods of time is a concern though.

  31. twilighthours says:

    This team looks like it has given up on its coach.

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  32. Kooch7800 says:

    wow, PK needs a night in the press box to reset. he has been playing brutal. We can’t score on a columbus team with their back up and one of the worst defense in the league..not good. This team doesn’t play like one. Gionta gets absolutely pasted and no one sticks up for their captains…that says a lot.

    emelin looked good though and Price.

  33. Jdub1985 says:

    Haven’t watched a game in weeks … and I’m happy about it.

    JM still there … and another L

    guess post Perrien is working out, no?
    Markov looking like a great signing no?

    11-11-6 looking good franchophone nation

  34. ProHabs says:

    Just listened to the JM post game conference. The Montreal reporters are a bunch of Cream Puffs. Same useless questions, same useless answers from JM. The team defines BORING.

    • Mattyleg says:

      What questions would you have asked?

      —Hope Springs Eternal—

    • thetruebeerman says:

      The perfect way to ensure changes are made is to embarrass management.
      Have a group of guys show up to the next game and when they are losing in the third and they will its against Vancouver put on brown paper bags over your faces…..it will make every TV channel including TSN.
      Management will feel the embarrassment over that…LOL

  35. HardHabits says:

    The reason why the Habs play to the level of the opponent is simple. The Habs play close hockey. They wait for the counter. Good teams give up better opportunities to counter because they press. Plus the Habs play a game intended to bottle up the ice. Eking out a win is eking out a win, regardless of the quality of the opponent.

  36. joshbenn says:

    well one of the only bright spots was Emelin. 10 hits!I wonder if Martin will bench him for not sticking with the sacred system.

  37. JoeC says:

    And the JM sideshow continues…

    Molson is a flippin idiot. I know he has to be positive when he talks, but how can you say straight face that this team is doing fine, JM is ruining the talent we have, and people need to stop saying anything in paticular to a certain player, because the system is KILLING our skill

    Cole, yet again, looks good, and guess why? he doest listen to the blowhard JM or his terrible outdated system of sucking.

    Thank you Price, yet again for atleast a point.

  38. habs001 says:

    take away the o/t wins this team has been a 500 team for over 190 games…most nights we are lucky to score 3 goals…eller needs hamiton to get some scoring confidence….

  39. jimmyb001 says:

    simple everyone- Coach and GM need to go. Good on Sanford a guy who toiled in Hamilton last 3 years and did not get a sniff with Habs. What do we do sign a backup (Budaj) at twice what Sanford makes. Good job PG.

    billy jackson

  40. rogieshan says:

    Hopefully, Gauthier doesn’t commit the same knee-jerk mistake as his predecessors and make a Turgeon-for-Corson, or LeClair & Desjardins-for-Recchi type deal to try and energize the team. But, clearly, a spark is desperately needed.

  41. HardHabits says:

    PK Subban TOI = 32:17
    Louis Leblanc TOI = 4:48

    • Wops says:

      Has it should be.

      • Wops says:

        Subban, along with gorges, are the only D that could be in the top 4 of any team. So its appropriate he play 32 min.

        We pay 21 millions for Gionta, Camma, Pleky and Cole. They need the ice time. + Patches and DD arent bad. Eller Kush and Moen have great chemistry + Moen is hot this year.

        So why does a underweight rookie, who has 3 NHL game experience should play. He has great potential, has shown great flash and learn invaluable experience. I think its great that LL is in the club. But plz, don’t ask to much of him.

        Good night. And its Idiot. Idiot.

  42. habsfan0 says:

    Sadly, this team is morphing into the Toronto Maple Leafs,i.e., as long as house is sold out,the owner has no incentive to do anything.

  43. Wops says:

    Boring game ! omg, they better do something otherwise HIO will lose some visitors…

    P.S. Beside his goal, Gionta really sux this year. he can’t make a clean pass. Can’t win a puck battle. But then again, everytime I complain about him, he scores a trash goal. What do I know! Still don’t like him.

  44. HardHabits says:

    My biggest fear is that PG at the behest of BG is going to make a move before the trade deadline to try and put the Habs into the play-offs that will destine this team to more mediocrity for decades.

    All I needed to hear today was Geoff Molson trying to sell Gomez like the proverbial used car that he is.

    I hope the fans finally rebel and reject the Habs constant swindling. Screw the play-offs. Build me a contender.

  45. Led says:

    This team blows. Boring. Rarely make the smart play. Instead they ignore it and then turn it over with a low percentage play or terrible dump. No commitment to outwork the other team. I’m even tired of watching PK Subban, he’s becoming the Scott Gomez of defensemen.

    You’d think that a defensive minded coach just might be able to formulate a game plan that could break down a strong defensive effort by the Jackets tonight, but no. Ugly, ugly hockey! I’m just glad I’m not paying to see it in person.

    The Montreal Canadiens should be better than this shit.

  46. DLS HAB says:

    J.M. can’t motivate this team, this is obvious with these lacklustre efforts. Is it me, or do teams with a physical grind(no matter their place in the standings) tend to beat this sadsack team?
    Subban?!?! His spinnerama is way to predictable. He needs to shorten his stick 2-3 inches.
    Nash is a thing of beauty! Kostitsyn, Deharnais and a first.
    Good on Carey despite overtime.

  47. TOP DAWG says:

    I may not know much BUT I do know that Carey Price will not continue to be a part of this side show longer than he has to.

    “If you’re not the TOP DAWG, the view never changes”

    • slapshot777 says:

      Price will play like any other player in the league anywhere that pays him the big dough. Players don’t care about winning as much as making the most dough possible. The days of wanting a cup is just gravey, show me the money.

      To you from failing hands we throw the torch, be yours to hold it high.

      • TOP DAWG says:

        Price is not like that. He will get the same money on any other team. He will go to a team better than this circus

        “If you’re not the TOP DAWG, the view never changes”

  48. AH says:

    Let’s see…coming off a win, 2 days off, back at home and a garbage opponent, the result: the Habs lose ANOTHER close one showing no emotion, jump or urgency… is anyone really surprised at this result???

  49. Rad says:

    Emelin had 9 hits tonight.

  50. Hammer says:

    In defense of PK. he is 22 years old, and playing over 30 minutes a night. People are starting to ride him, and I ask what is the alternative? Would you rather give extra minutes to Weber or Diaz or who? Looking at the score sheet, he was +1 and played a ton. By the commnets you would think he Steve Smithed a couple and caused the loss single handedly.

    • Rob D says:

      Most people, including Boone, are merely pointing out his numerous mistakes. He isn’t cutting it but it’s a measure of how weak our backline is as a result of injuries that a 22 year old kid is playing big minutes every night.

      When you play this game, you reap the glory and you surely reap the ignominy when it goes sour. PK is seeing the other side right now but I dont expect it to last long>He’s a quality young player on what is turning out to be a pretty bad team.

    • JayBee says:

      Pretty much, Hammer. Has he had lackluster games? You’re damn right he has. But to call him a JR. A player…or to call him brutal. If he’s brutal then the rest of our D (besides Gorges) is the worst D ever assembled in the history of the league, because PK is tops in virtually every category. He’s asked to do a lot more than he should be doing as a 2nd year player. I also think that he’s being handcuffed. Let him play his game. He’s a high risk, high reward player. Let him play.

  51. Yeah that was rough. I actually found myself thankful we got 1 point off Columbus. The horror!

    http://www.puckbandits.com

  52. TOP DAWG says:

    Retro Mikey will be here soon

    “If you’re not the TOP DAWG, the view never changes”

  53. kmachabs27 says:

    everytime i see a comment starting with PK or Subban i dont even read it, this forum is wack, how can you even say anythign bad about subbey when we cant score more then 2 goals a game fairly often, if it werent for Price this team probably wouldnt have reach the double digit point plateau yet, for christ sakes, put the puck in the back of the net, noooooo scoringgggggg = borinngggggggg

  54. montreal ace says:

    I am usually pretty positive about this team, and tonight I am pretty positive this is not a good team

  55. Trisomy 21 says:

    Do they not practice the shootout? Maybe they are satisfied just getting a point that JM doesn’t see a point to wasting a practice on shootouts. This is just pathetic. Pacioretty doesn’t have any moves, and AK, a guy who actually does, and managed to score tonight, sits on the bench. Oh and what’s with JMs love for DD? Why does he figure he should be shooting or Cammy and Plekanec?

    • Jim Edson says:

      Sure, they practice against Budaj and all look like heroes!

      Say no more!

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      Who am I: Barak Obama or Gary Bettman.

  56. Neutral says:

    Kostitsyn should be on the first line – Gionta on the 3rd line with
    Eller – he needs an experience Right winger and with Moen that would be a pretty good line…..

  57. Jim Edson says:

    Demotivated, disinterested, lazy, uninspired, disorganized, disjointed, sloppy……..

    How else can this debacle be described?

    Changes in the night, with mounting losses there’ll be changes in the night!

    Insh’allah!

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    Who am I: Barak Obama or Gary Bettman.

  58. habsperspective says:

    We finally lead the league in something, overtime loses!!

  59. Corson27 says:

    What has happened to this team I love?

    ………………………………………….
    I am sick and tired of mediocrity

  60. NCRhabsfan says:

    That was grand theft larceny of a point. In the unlikely event the Habs make the playoffs by one point we can look back on a night when they had nothing, less than nothing, got their *sses kicked all night against a crappy team, and still got one point.

  61. The Jackal says:

    I’ve never jumped on the fire JM wagon but recently, after seeing this team can’t even win 2 in a row, and JM’s stubbornness, I’m beginning to flirt with the idea. What hope I have in this team is buoyed by the notion that if we had a good PP, we would be a good few games over .500. However, we do not have a good PP, and there is no guarantee we will…. so time will tell.

  62. olematelot says:

    waaah, waaah, waaah!!!!!!!!!

  63. olematelot says:

    waaah, waaah, waaah

  64. twilighthours says:

    To the “we can still make the playoffs” crowd:

    To make the playoffs, montreal has to win more games than it loses from here on out. They problably need 67 or 68 of the remaining 108 points available. 

    Where are these points going to come from?  Games like this need to be 2 points. They can’t be only 1 point. 

    The team won’t make the playoffs by giving away points like this. 

    There is currently no indication that this team will turn it around.l

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  65. montreal ace says:

    NHL is a joke, my bet is that Shanahan dose not suspend 1 guy on this team for stepping on to the ice

  66. Peter Young says:

    We cannot blame the defensive side of the Canadiens’ performance when the team gives up two goals or less in a game. The problem is that, at least under Martin’s system, the Canadiens are incapable of scoring more than one or two goals a game. Yet the Canadiens’ players have the talent, the skills, to score more than one or two goals a game.

    The team needs a real shakeup, and the more I watch, the more I think it must come in the form of a coaching change. These days the team’s main offensive capability lies in its speed, but Martin’s system stifles that, just takes it entirely out of the game. I’m tired of watching drab performances and losses in games the Canadiens ought to have put away in regulation time.

  67. Rob D says:

    Subban looks like a bad Jr. A dman. Sheesh..I was all for him being up with the big club but seriously..he’s goiing through a brutal phase in his development at the moment. Painful for us..and him.

    Is that the third time this year Cole tries to cut in from way outside to the slot and loses the puck? 3 times I can remember anyway. He needs to start scoring ..yesterday. It’s such a group slump in the scoring column though..

    For the first time, I am starting to agree with the fire JM crowd. This team is quitting on him and its been more than just one game. Either you move some players or the coach is toast. In Montreal the patience is non existent but I think JM deserves a lot of heat and possibly his job at this point. Who do you get to replace him though? Frigged up year!

  68. scavanau says:

    Wow. They earned that loss.

    • Habsnut says:

      We lack a marquee forward. There isn’t a single impact player on our team outside of Price. Markov might be that guy, but he’s a ‘questionable commodity’ at this point. I think it has come to a point where either this franchise accepts that it needs to suck reeeallly bad for a couple of years, or it makes a major move to acquire a legitimate number one center. I’m at the point where mediocrity is grating on me; be great, or be bad – just don’t tread water.

  69. RockinRey says:

    Time to make a move. I know it Columbus in early December but there is something wrong with this team…..They are a bubble team at best with Markov in the lineup so they have to tweak before he comes back

  70. J.Ambrose.OBrien says:

    My God, but we are one BORING team!!!

    I remember Dec. 31, 1975


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