Glovegate

Mathias Brunet of La Presse thought he had a scoop. Today Brunet reported the Canadiens had ordered equipment for Marian Hossa.

Players headed to Atlanta: Michael Ryder, Mark Streit (both of whom, like Hossa, scheduled to become UFAs July 1), plus a draft choice or prospect.

Not true.

What happened was hockey gloves looking very much like those worn by the Canadiens were labeled "Hossa"  and delivered to the Bell Centre on Tuesday.

New York Rangers wear the same colour gloves as the Canadiens. Rangers have a player named Hossa, Marian’s kid brother (and Canadiens’ first-round draft choice bust) Marcel. 

Oops!

Hey, does anyone have insider information on the size of Alex Tanguay’s "equipment"?

A cup was delivered to the Bell Centre …

 

176 Comments

  1. Lafrich says:

    That first line made me laugh. You hit it on the head. To get quality, you need to give up something. I say we offer Brisebois, Smolinski, Dandenault, and Matt D’Agostini for Hossa and Kovalchuk…

  2. Cable Guy says:

    Ideally what I would like to see happen if this trade goes through is for us to sign Hossa long term and then re-sign Streit this summer.

  3. MTL LOVE says:

    cmon this is a business..I don’t think these guys will take it at heart and besides since when do we care about feelings. Do what’s best for the team and move on. Time for change and move into the right direction. Just hope for the best and a run at the playoffs!

    Can’t wait to see how the boys come out vs the pens.

  4. MikeL says:

    My brain cannot comprehend why some people are opposed to this trade. Do you expect us to get Marian Hossa for Brisebois and a draft pick? Come on. If there is any truth to this rumor, this is huge for the Habs. You should all be happy that Gainey is trying to make a run here. Mark Streit is, as I said before, a huge beneficiary of Markov and the Habs PP, much like Souray was. I would almost guarentee his numbers are going to go drastically down on another team. Team Chemistry? Ya there may be chemistry, but you are all only bringing this up because of the big win. If we just lost a game, you’d all be happy about this trade. You’ve gotta look at the big picture here. Streit and Ryder are both pending UFA, so saying we can’t sign Hossa is the same as saying we can’t sign Streit and Ryder.

  5. The Big O says:

    IF that’s the trade, I’d do it in a heartbeat!! Although if i could get them to take Dandenault instead of Streit, that would be even better! But this deal, DO IT if that’s all it’s going to cost!

  6. showey47 says:

    As much as nobody wants a trade in fear of disrupting team chemistry, i do like the message that bob is sending to us the fans,the media and possibly pending ufa’s after july who may still think that montreal that is still an undesirable place to play. That message being even though we are in a position to claim a top 4 playoff spot, bob wants to compete for the cup instead of just being satisfied with making the playoffs.

    I also fear the repurcussions of making a big trade that could possibly mess with team chemistry. But what i also fear is a team going down the stretch that hasn’t had a consistent second line all season and also a team that hasn’t been hit with any substantianl injuries. Could you imagine the impact of losing pleky or kovy for any period of time? Especially in this playoff race. We could go from 4th to 9th in one week.

  7. doug says:

    only unknown is pp. would need a new point guy and komi or dandenault are not the guys. skots?

  8. doug says:

    thank you. spot on. ian, you’re a smart hockey guy; you said at the bottom of this thread that streit’s the glue that keeps the chemistry together. a quiet swiss guy? if that’s true, we’re in big trouble!

  9. Blitzen says:

    I am done doubting Gainey. If he feels like this trade will help, then bring it on.
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  10. MikeL says:

    Ian, come one. Ya Streit is versatile, but he’s not an impact player. He is a huge beneficiary of Markov and the Habs PP, much like Souray was. His plus minus is not great and he cannot play D because he is very poor at skating backwards (wiggles his butt instead of crossovers) and is not very physical. If we can trade a PP specialist 4th liner and a player who seen more press box then ice, for a bonified NHL star, you’ve gotta be happy as a fan.

  11. OldGrover says:

    Hmmm. The more I think about this, the more I like it. Yeah, Streit will be hard to replace on the powerplay, but, as posted earlier, that’d be effectively TWO first lines. Look at this :

    AKost-Pleks-Kovy
    Higgins-Koivu-Hossa

    Then the kid line that played so well :

    Lats-Laps-SKost

    And then a grinder line :

    Begin with whoever feels like playing tonight out of Dandy/Smoke/Kostop

    That could be brutal for opponents to try to match up against.

    Then powerplay point end up being Markov/Komi and Hammer/SKost, probably. I’ll admit that Komi is not Streit on the point on the powerplay, but he can shoot it at the net. Maybe even give Dandy a shot on the point at the powerplay.

    This could be a stellar lineup. Who knows if it’ll happen – rumours fly everywhere – but I’d not be unhappy if it does.

  12. frank81 says:

    Do you have a link to what Higgins and Koivu said?

  13. Ian G Cobb says:

    Talk about an impact player! Streit is by far the most rounded player on the team, he is one player that will be signed by us for a long time.

  14. Trashknob says:

    I believe Tanguay is signed through next year.

    Probably Streit would have already discussed the possibility of signing an extension with atlanta if this goes through.

    Btw, have you guys heard Higgins and Koivu’s comments? Higgins is chuckling at the possibilities of what will happen without naming names… they played it on the team it’s great.

    Something is going down…

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  15. Cable Guy says:

    Why do you say ‘Not a chance’? Gainey himself said he’s looking to acquire an impact player. I think there is a good chance actually that this trade will happen.

  16. MikeL says:

    Hossa for two pending UFA? I don’t see how this helps Atlanta.

  17. Rugger says:

    Though I would like to see this group stick together, I am sure Gainey has considered all of the chemistry impact issues and if he does this I trust it is the right thing.

  18. Ian G Cobb says:

    Not a chance.!!-Just someone smoking weed. ?

  19. Blitzen says:

    Well that would be nice. I was as happy as the next guy that Ryder broke out but his value was sky high. Perfect timing. Hate to see some guys go but Hossa is a player. We weren’t going to resign Ryder and Streit anyway, if those are in fact the two guys going the other way.
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  20. showey47 says:

    Exactly, hey i would of loved nothing more than for ryder to of had a 35 to 40 goal season with us and bob sign him to more than a one year deal. I just think that with the way carbo has treated him add to that ryder and bob can never agree to anything more than a one year deal. Ryder will probably be looking somewhere else for a chance to re-establish himself as a top 6 winger and for more than one season deal.

  21. ZepFan2 says:

    “Anyways…Does it bother you that much that I have made a statement saying Ryder will not be back?”

    Only the part where you state that Gainey wont sign Ryder. Other than that, I’m just not happy about this potential trade.

    In the end though, it’s just a business. I understand that. I’m more worried about the chemistry on this team.

    Bottom line, like you and most others (not FFS), I’m a Habs fan!!

    With that I’ll just say…Go Habs Go!

  22. Richard says:

    Whoops! One mistake…

    This doesn’t have to be a fair trade. Hossa is being auctioned off – highest bidder wins all – no matter how lopsided.

  23. MikeL says:

    Yeah I misread it and tried changing it but you replied too quickly. Anyways…Does it bother you that much that I have made a statement saying Ryder will not be back? Go read other posts made in the last 30 mins. Many say the same thing as I have. I don’t think anyone needs to know Bob Gainey personally to say that Ryder will not be back next year.

  24. Rogie30 says:

    Streit aint Bobby Orr.

  25. Rogie30 says:

    Hossa, Hossa, now lets add some toughness to the mix, and kick some Ottawa a.

  26. ZepFan2 says:

    “If you “bet” Ryder will not be here next year, then why are you arguing with me?”

    LMFAO

    Are you sure you’re not the senile one?

    Look again, those are quotation marks around YOUR statement.

    lol

  27. Blitzen says:

    Anybody else hoping that Hossa, Sundin, Jokinen, Campbell and Tanguay all get traded by Monday? Then TSN can spend 10 hours talking to John Ferguson Jr about the great job he did rebuilding the Laffs.
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  28. NLhabsfan says:

    How do we know anything is being done…trade wise…maybe he is going to stand pat:)Rumors on trades are never reliable.

  29. MikeL says:

    If you “bet” Ryder will not be here next year, then why are you arguing with me?

  30. Wencz says:

    Good trade. It’s great that many of us are frothing at the mouth over trading two guys like Ryder and Streit for one of the leagues most coveted fwds. Only in Montreal, god love ya. It just highlights the emotional attachment of this team’s fans to its team and its players. I think most of us feel that Ryder has been treated somewhat unfairly this year, and we were hoping to see him come out on top, wearing the CH. I was anyway.

    At the end of the day though, if we are able to sign Hossa, I think this is a great trade, one that will turn us into contenders.

    Trust Bob, IMO.

  31. Plek-Andrew says:

    I’m with you, Mikey…
    We finally have the potential of having a star and people are shooting down rumors… yes streit is versatile but at his age, he can very easily be replaced. I love him to death and would rather have Streit on my team as opposed to Markov (check the stats and the pay) but he IS a UFA and would demand a lot next year.
    Like I’ve said countless times. Gainey’s gonna make trades that NO ONE expects. That’s his style. Even rumor sites have a hard time tracking Gainey’s actions and the moderators all have “sources” but this is something that I have definitely read elsewhere.

    We’ll just wait and see…

  32. cautiousoptimist says:

    I’ve been arguing that we shouldn’t trade the future for the present, but if this is the deal, it’s hard to say no. I like Ryder and Streit – especially Ryder – but they’re both UFAs, and I can’t see a) Ryder re-signing here after the year he’s had or b) Gainey paying Streit what he could fetch elsewhere. Add that to the fact that Streit has said he prefers playing D to forward, and it looks like a good deal for everyone involved. And Hossa beats the hell out of Tanguay.

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  33. Richard says:

    I have to say, this actually makes a lot of sense.

    1. Michael Ryder is not coming back. Every year at contract time he wants to go to arbitration but manages to avoid it at the last second. This year, he wouldn’t get arbitration because he’s UFA. Every year or two he has shown to be difficult with negotiations. Bob will certainly not want to deal with it. Also, he is not a natural two-way player (although he has been greatly improving this year). Carbo’s system requires strong 2-way players to work best.

    He is also not a bad player, only had a bad year. He has also shown that he may be snapping out soon. Most importantly, he has dealt with his difficulties maturely, which is not necessarily common in the NHL.
    There will be plenty of teams who will be interested in signing him, and know that they can get a good deal because he’s had a bad year.
    And you never know when a star will resurrect: Ribeiro in Dallas or Samsonov in Carolina.

    In conclusion, he is a good player in an off year that doesn’t fit our system, has reasonable trade value, and will certainly not be desirable to resign.

    2. First of all, I love Mark Streit. I think that he is one of the greatest assets that Montreal has, and I’m sure that Gainey is up-playing how versatile and talented he is. But let’s look at what we’re giving up:

    Defenseman: Mark Streit can be a 2nd line defenceman on most teams and a first line defenceman on some. In Montreal, he could be at most our #4 (after Markov, Komi, Hamr) but is realistically much lower down because of the recent expolosion of Bouillon and the fact that O’Byrne and Gorges are being molded.

    Forward: Mark Streit can play and has played as a first line forward, would work on a 2nd, but is probably most natural on the 3rd. He can score on any of those lines. Montreal is playing him on the 4th line.

    PP QB: He’s can be a fantastic QB on any team and is our #2. We know Komi, Hamrlik, and Buillon are mediocre QB’s, but who’s to say that Gorges and O’Byrne can’t do it with practice. Plus the defenseman in back is a little less important if we have better scoring up front.

    Versatility: Mark Streit can play all these positions in the same game depending on injuries or how the game turns.

    Conclusion:
    What we lose: a 4th liner, 7th defenseman, #2 QB, and versatility.
    What they gain: a scoring 3rd liner who can play on any line, a 2nd (or 1st) line defenseman, a (probable) #1 QB, and versatility.

    With a draft or prospect, Atlanta is losing in Hossa what they are gaining in Ryder and Streit. Montreal, however, is benefiting because we are not using Streit to the level that he can be used in Atlanta (i.e. his trade value is higher than his worth on the Habs, like trading a goalie as a #1 starter when he’s playing as your #2).

    In a trade, each team loses something. But we are under-using Streit because of our depth and Ryder wasn’t coming back anyway and in return we get Hossa. Atlanta is losing Hossa but he wouldn’t resign there anyway so they’re getting two quality players. Both teams are gaining more than they’re losing. That means it’s a good trade.

    Sorry this went on so long.

  34. ZepFan2 says:

    “You sound like a senial old man.”

    Calm down sonny!!

    This senile old man NEVER stated what Gainey would do or not. That seems to be your forte.

    “All I said was I bet Ryder will not be here next year”

    Umm and you’re calling me senile. lol

    YOU said Bob Gainey would not sign Ryder next year.

  35. Wencz says:

    haha… “you sir are no BG”, funny

  36. MikeL says:

    Wow..I don’t even know if this is worth responding to. You sound like a senial old man. I’m “no Bob Gainey”…Uh…Duh! When did I claim that I make decisions or that I am as wise as Gainey? All I said was I bet Ryder will not be here next year….which I thought was a pretty unaminous thought. Apparently not…

    Oh and congratulations on meeting Bob Gainey…I guess that means you are allowed to forcast what he does, but nobody else can.

  37. Blitzen says:

    Let’s look at Ryder and Streit’s playoff stats for a minute

    Ryder
    17 GP 3 goals, 5 assists -9

    Streit
    1 GP 0 goal, 0 assist 0

    Hossa
    55 GP 13 goals, 22 assists, -9

    When he was still young, Hossa had a tough time in the playoffs, then he put in two years where he got close to a point a game. And remember that those were the years when the Sens lacked grit. He also has more playoff experience than the other two.

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  38. Wencz says:

    it can take a second to sink in, but it’s the truth

  39. Wencz says:

    yup, trust the guy, he’s a proven winner.

  40. ZepFan2 says:

    “The damage is already done. Some g.m. after july 1st will offer him a 3 year deal close to 10 million.”

    Yeah, if I’m Ryder and some g.m. is offering me ten mill…sayonara Montreal

  41. ZepFan2 says:

    Yeah, thanks for your insight. I’ll wait till it actually happens before I make a statement like yours.

    Maybe it’s true Ryder wont be here, maybe he will be traded. If he is though, it wont be up to you. That job falls in the lap of Bob Gainey.

    I’ve met Bob Gainey, you sir are NO Bob Gainey!

  42. Blitzen says:

    Thought about this some more:

    Ryder
    Yep he had a great game and he has had 30 goal seasons. But why does he never sign for more than a year? Funny how he plays well when the season winds down. Think it might have to do with getting a contract for the following year? I think the odds are just as high that he would go back to doing less after the big game. I would be worried about signing him long term and maybe Bob is too. I guess we’ll find out when Toronto signs him for $4M per year next year for 4 years with a no movement clause.

    Streit
    I like him also but let’s get real. If the guy is all that’s holding the team’s chemistry together, don’t you think that Carbo and Bob realize that? The guy has points and plays well on the PP but I’m guessing that Hossa will more than make up for that. SKoz has shown he can also play the point and I’m betting someone else will step up.

    Hossa
    Proven scorer. The guy has been playing on basically a one-line team and still has more goals than all of our guys except Kovy. On a team that would now have two great lines, other teams won’t be able to focus on him anymore. I think he would break out big time. Sucks in the playoffs? What have Streit and Ryder done in the playoffs again? Didn’t Alfie suck in the playoffs before?

    Fundamentally, I don’t think we were going to resign Ryder and Streit next year. I actually think Streit may be the next Souray. Get big money somewhere else. Like someone else mentioned, it’s not like we’re hurting in depth at D.

    If that’s the trade, then by all means do it.
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  43. JB says:

    Someone look at Hossa’s playoff stats before you get to excited

  44. showey47 says:

    All i’m gonna say is put yourself in ryder’s shoes. He has been carbo’s whipping boy for most of the season and has spent 10 games in the pressbox while guys like lats and to some extent dandy have gotten a virtual free ride. The guy has been our top goal scorer for the past 2 seasons and he gets treated like a fringe fourth liner because things haven’t gone his way this season. The sad part is he will probably still score at least 20 goals, playing a limited role. The damage is already done. Some g.m. after july 1st will offer him a 3 year deal close to 10 million.

  45. tony d says:

    if we get Sundin instead of Hossa, the Leafs get the motor boat since they’ll be doing some early fishing having missed the playoffs again!!

  46. projectpete19 says:

    that was sergeis position in the OHL, dont know how he would do in the big leagues

  47. MikeL says:

    Is it some sort of mystery to you that Ryder is not coming back? I’m not sure where you have been over the last year or so, but you should try doing a little research before you claim everybody else needs to know players/gm’s personally. It is pretty safe to say Ryder isn’t coming back…in fact, he’s likely going to be gone before the deadline. That’s reality bud…live with it.

  48. ZepFan2 says:

    Oh, so you know “Bob” personally then.

  49. MikeL says:

    Bob is not signing him. I’d put a lot of money on it.

  50. ZepFan2 says:

    “Ryder? Can we get real here for just one second? This guy has been a disappointment all year.”

    Kovy was brutal last year. Are you happy we didn’t trade him?

    Ryder has 3 great years and one bad and that equates to running him out of town?!

    How do you know he wont sign here next year, do you know him personally?

  51. RS says:

    I like Mark Streit. He’s versatile, a smart player and he’s put up some pretty good points this year. But he should not be considered untouchable. If the right deal comes along, I could understand him being traded. I also like Hossa.

    Streit is an important guy on the PP, however. He is our second best PP quarterback after Markov. If we trade Streit, after Markov, what do we have for the PP? Breezer? Sergei? Gorges? Hammer? Frankie the Bull? It’s quite a drop off after Markov.

  52. showey47 says:

    If the rumour is true i would say hossa would play right wing with saku and higgins, not really breaking up any set line. I don’t see how you could compare samsonov to hossa, when was the last time samsonov had 50 points, never mind close to 100. They are 2 completly different types of players.

  53. MikeL says:

    Samsonov and Hossa arn’t even comparable.

  54. piche says:

    LOL – I have been reading transltated articles for a while… I like the high-speed motorboat (ie star player) and the guys smelling themselves well (which I believe translates to feeling pretty good and is usually written when a guy is coming back from injury).

  55. vic says:

    Word in Toronto Hossa is going to Detroit.I think its all smoke right now.
    I dont like the trade. where does he play,which line do we break up.
    I dont think it will work out memories of sammy.

  56. Barts says:

    DO NOT TRADE STREIT, I REPEAT, DO NOT TRADE STREIT…

  57. RS says:

    Hossa is a pending UFA. Waddell can’t seem to sign him. So he is going to lose him. He wants something in return, both for short-term (they still want to make the playoffs) and longer-term. Thus, the UFAs could still help out this season. But the draft picks/prospects would be an important aspect of the deal. I suspect that if this deal goes through it might involve some pretty good prospects or early round picks.

  58. 9410 says:

    Upon further review, I thought they were better spread out amongst the other lines, with Kovalev’s carrying more of the load. Your right, on all accounts, Streit and the scoring. I apologize I should have reviewed my facts before posting. Damn i need some coffee.

  59. RS says:

    There’s always the Breezer option for the point on the PP. I’m only half joking.

  60. 24 Cups says:

    Assuming we are not giving up our first round pick, I think the rumoured deals to bring Hossa to Montreal are fantastic. We have absolutely nothing to lose except Streit, and he plays a position where we have the most depth in the organization. His spot on the PP will be taken by Hossa. Markov is still the most important guy on the blueline on the PP. Ryder isn’t coming back to Montreal next year and if anyone thinks he is then they really don’t understand free agency and the salary cap in the new NHL. Streit probably would have re-signed with Montreal but it would be around $3mil a year. Ryder + Streit + Smolinski = 8mil
    Subtract $1.5 mil to replace Streit and Smolinski with Hamilton players (Grabovski & Chipchura) next year and you are still up $6.5 mil next year. Even if you re-sign Hossa for $8 mil a year it would only push the cap up $1.5. You would have a real shot at a Cup for this year and NEXT year before you had to possibily restructure the salary grid to accomodate future raises to our young stars. We would also be saving money in the future if we didn’t re-sign Huet next year. Everybody is crapping all over Hossa. Why? Would you rather have Gomez, Briere, Drury, Richards? The money is basically the same. What do you think Pittsburph is going to have to give Malkin next year? It’s going to be between 7-8 mil. Count on it. That’s the price of having a star these days. If we make this deal we also have to make another deal where we pick up a solid, depth defensman. Dandy and Brisebois won’t cut it in the playoffs and it’s too much pressure to put on a kid from Hamilton. We need to fill Streit’s role on the back end.
    I mentioned team chemistry yesterday and it’s a major factor. Only Gainey and Carbo can truly answer how the team would be impacted by bringing in Hossa and a new defenseman. Streit has been great all year and will be missed. Ryder? Can we get real here for just one second? This guy has been a disappointment all year. Maybe it’s his fault, maybe it’s partly Carbo’s fault. The fact remains that he’s not cutting it. I know he has scored in the past few games but he still isn’t coming back next year. Ryder is a second line winger at best – Hossa is a first line winger, he’s an impact player. Ryder is a shot in the dark most nights. I can go on and on. But let me finish by asking you one question. If someone said to you in October that we could get Hossa for Ryder what would you have honestly said? This deal, as outlined on this site, is a win-win situation. Our core nucleus stays in place and we get a real shot at the Cup. I say roll the dice because what we have right now isn’t good enough to beat Ottawa and Jersey in a long playoff series. We need just a bit more.

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  61. frank81 says:

    It’s hilarious how Bob McKenzie kills every rumour related to the Canadiens. It’s almost like a game of whack-a-mole for him.

  62. Naila Jinnah says:

    I think the most unlikely part of this rumour is Streit leaving.
    But then again, who am I to know?

  63. RGM says:

    That would be a very interesting move, to be sure. Lots of impending UFA’s there, but the thing to remember is that if Atlanta has legit interest in both Streit and Ryder, they would have a months-long window of opportunity to re-sign them to new deals. It’s not as simple as “come play here for the rest of the season and we’ll see what happens on July 1st.” They’d likely receive permission from the Canadiens to open up exactly those kind of talks, much like Gainey would request the same permission vis-a-vis Hossa. The team is obviously not afraid to spend money; if they offered a guy like Briere a better deal than the 8-year, $52M he got from Philly, surely they’d be able to offer Hossa a considerable incentive to stay. Trade-and-sign could become a major buzzword around this time of year.

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  64. Naila Jinnah says:

    Check yesterday’s practice audio.

  65. Dingwell says:

    If this trade is for real, hopefully we can sign him to an extension..

    All the Habs need now is Chris Gratton and the team will go deep

  66. ZepFan2 says:

    I smoke weed from time to time, and even I think this trade sucks.

    An impact player is one thing, but chemistry is a whole different ballgame.

    Right now the Habs have chemistry up the ying/yang. Why break that up?

  67. MikeL says:

    Our offence is not spread out with only 1 line scoring most of our goals. Koivu’s line hasn’t really produced consistent offense in a long time. They didn’t even produce in the big comeback. (Ya koivu got an assist but it was on the PP when Kostitsyn and Kovalev were still out there) Taking Streit out would not put in Breezer, it would put in a 4th liner (Smolinski or Kostopolous).

  68. lemess says:

    This from the above linked article – translated by babelfish:

    “for the attacker high-speed motorboat 29 year old, Marian Hossa.”

    Does that mean we get Hossa AND a motorboat?

  69. 9410 says:

    That makes a lot of sense, thats good justification for the trade, but I would be hesitating to make it. I never thought of what you said regrading the message he is sending. I don’t see this deal being made unless we sign Hossa to an extension before the end of the season. I don’t see Gainey renting anybody, and giving up a piece of the future in terms of a pick or prospect. I also hope he does not give in a pick or any of the top prospects, but realistically after getting fleeced for Tkatchuk last year, Waddell is gonna do what he can to get a highly touted prospect.

  70. MikeL says:

    From Bob McKenzie:

    The Marian Hossa Sweepstakes are on hold – for now.

    Amid published reports out of Montreal that the Canadiens have ordered equipment for Hossa in the event they secure his rights and out of Ottawa, where the Senators are apparently in a holding pattern on Hossa, the focus in Atlanta today is strictly on the Thrashers’ game tonight against Carolina.

    Sources say Atlanta GM-head coach Don Waddell is in full coach mode today and won’t be working the phones or advancing any trade talk for the talented winger who is likely to be dealt before Tuesday’s NHL trade deadline.

    But sources also told TSN that before Waddell resumes trade talk on Hossa, he wants to take one final stab at seeing if he can sign the winger to a contract extension. That effort, the source said, would likely take place on Friday. If it’s unsuccessful, and Hossa himself has been quoted as saying it’s a longshot he would re-sign in Atlanta before July 1, then Waddell will attempt to close a deal for Hossa this weekend.

    Teams reportedly interested in Hossa include Montreal, Ottawa, New Jersey, Detroit and San Jose, amongst others.

  71. 9410 says:

    “Ya there may be chemistry, but you are all only bringing this up because of the big win”. Maybe, but this team has much more of a “team first” mentality than has been seen since the early 90′s. This year we’ve finally seen more than most of the players sticking up for each other, especially the goalies, and willing to drop the gloves. Look at what happened in Nashville and Atlanta last year after getting Forsberg and Tkatchuk respectively, they both lost early because they did play well as a team. Fact is streit is a good and very well experienced player whose logged tons of minutes for the swiss national teams in big games.
    Messing with chemistry could hurt the team in the short run but if they come together in home stretch it should be fine. I stand by what i said yesterday; we dont need more offensive firepower, we have the second highest goals for in the east at 192 compared to Ottawa’s 204 and third in the NHL after Detroits 199. Offense is there, and spread out decently. We need more toughness for a deep playoff run, and giving up Streit puts in Breezer; whose is not that tough.
    I hope this rumor does not pan out.

  72. likehoy says:

    finally…i was waiting for some sort of confirmation.

  73. 9410 says:

    Eklund is saying the Habs are out of the Hossa sweeps. He’s also saying Boston is at the front of the line to pick them up, so basically its up in the air.
    http://www.hockeybuzz.com/blog.php?post_id=13497.

    Since I don’t have any sources to speak of, I can’t debunk/verify any rumor, and while I maintain that this team is good enough to go far into the playoffs, I would not be opposed to bringing in an impact player as long as; he is not a rental and can be extended for at least 2-3 more years, the deal does not mess with the current roster too much, and its prospects not picks, as this years draft is going to be damn strong by all accounts.

    In my opinion I just don’t think a deals going to be made, the prices are going to be very high for whats out there and I don’t think Gainey will be willing to pay as much as other teams out there are. I could be wrong, I just hope we don’t pay for something that wont put the Habs over the edge and make them a Cup winner.

  74. Chuck V. says:

    According to TSN, Marcel Hossa was assigned to the Ranger’s AHL affiliate in Hartford on Feb. 16th and the Rangers were in town on the 19th, so they clearly weren’t rushing him gloves for the game and I don’t see why they wouldn’t have mailed them either to NY or Hartford (AHL).

    I still think something is afoot…

  75. 1010 says:

    Satan has seen better days. I don’t think he would be the right fit for this team.

    GO HABS.

  76. sidhu says:

    Any thoughts on Marty Havlat as being the “impact player” BG wants to bring on board? He’s signed through next year at $6m per. Chicago will be sellers and Havlat has flown under the radar of potential targets. Perhaps BG is talking openly about seeking an “impact player” so the stakes rise for Hossa, Sundin, and others – knowing BG he could be up to something less flashy, i.e., Havlat. Kosto, Grabovski and Fischer for Havlat seems good to me.

    Higgy-Koivu-Havlat
    AK46-Pleks-Kovy
    Streit-Max-Ryder
    Lats-Begin-SK74

    Go Habs Go!

  77. 9410 says:

    With all due respect, if your saying Richards isn’t worth it, don’t compare him to a player who has matured into a very capable hockey player, Ribiero has more points than anyone on our team and has seemingly turned his corner. Yvon Pednault stated in an earlier broadcast that Gainey had told Ribiero, when the Boys played in Dallas, that perhaps he had traded Ribiero one year too early. +/- Is not a very accurate depiction of a player as being two way, when you consider that his team is garbage and he has been playing through Mono this year, as was reported by Bob Mackenzie:
    http://www.tsn.ca/blogs/mckenzie/?id=228378
    I continue to believe Richards is a good player, just grossly overpaid.

  78. tony d says:

    Hossa… that’s what my dad used to call the fat Cartwright brother on Bonanza
    (he has a thick Italian accent….my dad that is)

  79. Bouleau noir says:

    Exactement how I feel about it.. monsieur.

  80. 9410 says:

    Havlat would be a very risky pickup, but the thing is, I don’t see the Hawks giving him up since realistically they need more established players on there roster to help the development of the extremely promising youth they have. They need to develop them and having Havlat only helps.
    Also hes made of glass, like really thin glass, not the good, strong glass you hide behind when being robbed, the thin stuff they used to make Brisebois’s jaw.
    http://www.tsn.ca/nhl/teams/players/bio/?name=Martin+Havlat&hubname=nhl-blackhawks
    Use this as a refference for his games played and check them, damn shame too because hes such a great player to watch, speed, skill, shot, hes a great talent just a lil’ schoolgirl though, no toughness.

  81. Dana says:

    I think this entire city is mad.. my husband woke me up this morning (on my day off, after I got only 6 hours of sleep) to tell me that Hossa is probably coming to Montreal. The entire city is in a frenzy over rumours and the Rangers game.

    I’m not going to get excited about anything until it actually happens!


    “Now, now my good man, this is no time for making enemies.”
    - Voltaire on his deathbed in response to a priest asking that he renounce Satan.

  82. New says:

    Wow the Habs ordered equipment for Hossa! Are they ordering equipment for any of the other Oilers?

  83. 9410 says:

    Could very well be a means by which the teams are covering themselves, since we know Mr. Gainey would not really want to have this leak, on the chance that Hossa does not come hear, it could make the team look foolish. Sather could just be helping. Also it could be the way they say it is, they just wanted to get the gloves here when they came through. Never know.
    The story’s really put everybody in overdrive though huh, kinda getting ahead of ourselves.
    Just idle thinking.

  84. Will Longlade says:

    I understand that Havlat is damaged goods. It’s unlikely that his shoulder would hold up for even one playoff series. I wouldn’t put my apples in this cart.

  85. RussianProspect says:

    Hey guys, Check out http://habsexpress.blogspot.com/
    it has a lot of cool ideas and trade speculations.
    Provides in depth game previews, post game analysis.

    Thanks, and enjoy commenting.

  86. likehoy says:

    well i can compare him to ribeiro if i’d like cause ribeiro is a soft NHLer that puts up points but may have a big head and would get on the nerves of us montreal fans even if he was scoring points for us. Richards is a good player, but I don’t see him benefiting our team in any way…unfortunately. 7.8mil to play as a second line centre putting up maybe 10 more points than koivu for 2/3rds more salary. The only thing I’m sad about Ribs leaving montreal is that we didn’t get a lot in return…I liked Ribs in montreal, and hoped he prospered here, but his attitude left a lot to be desired…which prompted the habs to handle lapierre differently to calm his ego.

    like i said +/- doesn’t indicate much usually but when you’re a consistent minus player in the deep cold…it means you’re a defensive liability…just as if you were in the scorching pluses like lidstrom…who is a defense king. Crap team or not Lecav, St-louis, prospal, boyle do not have a +/- figure as horrendous at Richards. I believe his soft play is what makes him a defensive liability…but I can stand to be corrected.

    just another similar argument is souray’s -25 but he’s a defenseman…is it not indicative that he can’t play defense despite being called a defenseman? I’m sure you’ve seen souray’s play on defense and can make a judgment on that.

    btw i heard about the mono…that is ridiculous…how do you even get out of bed with mono?? not that i ever had it but i’ve known some people who have and just laid in bed all day…funny how athletes refused to get checked out until they can barely move anymore.

  87. Chuck V. says:

    Check this out:

    http://youtube.com/watch?v=TEui1FREhvY&feature=related

    Thought it was funny and fitting

  88. twilighthours says:

    It wouldn’t even make sense for the Habs to order gloves, would it? YOu’d think every NHL team has a bunch of pairs of gloves lying around (as well as pants, socks, jerseys…) The only thing they might need to custom order for him are his helmets.

  89. Mr.Hazard says:

    Fool.

    Ex nihilo nihil fit

  90. Rogie30 says:

    Too expensive and injury prone, and dont want to trade McDonagh, thought he was untouchable.

  91. Wencz says:

    The Score is reporting that Hossa is improbable for the Thrashers game tonight due to a flu. French flu, maybe?

  92. Rogie30 says:

    If we get Havlat, swear, I am converting, he,s a loser.

  93. Richard says:

    Whatever.

    A leak is very unprofessional. A cover-up will immediately be placed to help protect the reputation of the company.

    What you failed to mention, Mike, is that the original article mentioned “equipment” and the second discussed only gloves, which are the most indistinguishable of equipment.

    Oh ya, and for some reason said gloves were ordered in Montreal for a player on the Rangers who didn’t accompany the team here because he was recently sent to the minors.

    Someone at the company was embarrassed about a confidential information leak and is trying to protect their a$$.

  94. Ali says:

    actually, because Hossa is in Hartford and the company that makes his gloves is located in MTL, the team apparently told him they would pick up the gloves for him while they were in town getting shell-shocked at the hands of our Habs.

  95. GrimJim says:

    “Somebody ought to take these guys to school outside the locker room and explain to them how the cap works, how teams have budgets and how many players teams can have on their roster… It’s okay to have opinions but it’s better to have good information.”
    Darryl Sutter, today on Fan 960 radio, Calgary.

  96. GrimJim says:

    Man, I am so sick of all this trade talk that I want BG to do absolutely nothing so I can sit back and watch the heads explode on all these rumourmongers, media pundits, tradeblog hounds and armchair experts.

  97. krob1000 says:

    Guess you have the right name then.

    P.S. He has already stated he is trying to do something if it is available.

  98. krob1000 says:

    Guess you have the right name then.

    P.S. He has already stated he is trying to do something if it is available.

  99. Gormdog says:

    Richards = Conn Smythe.

    No other argument to make.

    He’s a good addition (at any price) to a playoff bound team seriously lacking in playoff experience.

    All depends what we have to give up for him, like any other trade…

  100. Rogie30 says:

    Dear Bob, Do something, do something.

  101. ebk says:

    Can’t see Atlanta trading Hossa for this. If Gainey pulls this one out of his hat, He’ll make Chris Angel look like a amateur magician.

    Would love to see it happen, though.

  102. Bouleau noir says:

    It was said that Bob has been the most active GM in Florida and that he expresses his quest to be for an
    ” impact ” player.

    We know Bob and he knows his team,… he is ready to improve the team by getting a player that will play a role in MTL for years to come,… forget about rental, this is not about a playoff run.. its about building a team.

    Signed players that he has in mind are, Richards, Jokinen, Tangay, Havlat and you could count Hossa in that group if he shows Gainey to be interested for a long term contract…. forget about Sundin as I think Gainey is just using him to show other GM that he has many other options if they want to play hard to get.

    Gainey cant count on the summer and the UFAs to improve the team the way he want and Shanahan and Briere were indications to that state of affair.

    Of that group Jokinen is the least likely player to be trade by his present team,… he would also cost more assets to get him than all the other by a large margin.

    Fewer assets would be needed to get Hossa,.. fewer still to get the rest of them,.. Richards, Tangay, Havlat.

    All those players would make our team a better one,… the best deal cant be guessed at unless we knew of all the pieces pertaining to the completion of each of those possible acquisitions,… all we know nowdays is that Gainey is more like red pepper and less like celeri,.. very much like the team has been lately… and thats a good thing.

  103. JB says:

    k – so Mac & Dreger are now throwing out the name of Brad Richards as someone else Montreal could be interested in.

    Thoughts?

  104. Blitzen says:

    I don’t like his huge contract.
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  105. JB says:

    would we rather Hossa or Richards?

  106. Richard says:

    I know this will get me killed:

    Huet and prospect/pick for Richards.

    I know Richards is worth more, but Huet would be invaluable to TB and they need to dump salary. I know this is a typical Montreal pipe dream like “let’s trade Lecavalier for Brisebois, I’m sure TB will agree”, but Gainey has a way of selling his side.

    The best is that it doesn’t preclude the Hossa deal. We can do both. It puts a little pressure on Price, but I’m sure Halak can be the adequate backup that he was last year.

    OK, so I just wrote several lines of nonsense. I can dream, can’t I?

  107. 9410 says:

    My friend, dreams are never nonsense, they only problem with it would feasibly be his contract, we could take his or Hossa’s but never afford both and hold some form of cap room manuverability. Also its had too much time remaining at too high of a price. I would love to have Richards because with the kind of supporting cast we could give him, he could fit very well in as a second line centre, but then we can’t put Saks on the third line, its just not a right fit and disrespectful to someone who has been the only heart of the franchise for close to a decade, now he has help and deserves to stay here.
    A great dream to have though. Good post.
    I also just wrote a lot of nonsense, maybe we have a future covering the Leafs.

  108. 9410 says:

    Depends on the price. Hossa would be a definite addition to scoring, and is a good two way player, where as Richards give a dependable two-way centre with very good faceoff skills, and also a proven clutch performer.
    If both cost 7.5, I would give it to Hossa, because I dont think Richards is worth more than 5, and we can’t in good conscience make him so much more well paid than Markov, Koivu, or Kovy.

  109. Xtrahabsfan says:

    it work’s for me

  110. RS says:

    I like Richards, but if we add a scoring centre, we need to get rid of a centre. Koivu is a second line centre, but he ain’t a third line centre. I can’t see Gainey moving Koivu.

    In general, I can see Gainey being interested in Richards (or Sundin), even with the big contract, but he’s not as good of a fit as Hossa or Tanguay.

    Honestly, I think a better target would be a blockbuster deal for Andre Roy.

  111. howtathor says:

    Wasn’t it Brunet who broke the Kovygate story last year? This guy should have his credentials revoked!

  112. Chuck V. says:

    I wasn’t going to read it because I thought it’d be Eklund, but to my great surprise was Yvon Pedneault. I guess it’s worth a read then

  113. Dana says:

    RDS says that the rumour about the gloves is false – http://www.rds.ca/canadien/chroniques/246265.html

  114. Grabbed The Cup says:

    This deal makes sense to me, and it smacks of the truth. I like it for a few reasons, first of all, it does not include any of our young and improving assets. Secondly, this off season Montreal has 5 UFAs, (Brisebois and Smolinski are 100% gone, I’d put Ryder at 95% out the door, while Huet and Streit are about 50/50) and 5 RFAs to deal with, thus the trade includes a player with a highly dubious future on the team, and a player who would likely be replaced by a young forward next year even if he was resigned. The 5 RFAs are young (A Kostitsyn, Lapierre, Gorges, O’Byrne, Halak) and the Habs will want to resign all of them. Kostitsyn will be the only one to command big money, but the other four combined will cost perhaps an extra $4m, so there may not be enough room to resign Streit anyway.

    Trashknob made an astute observation that this could be a three team deal involving Tanguay and that has a ring of validity to it since it would allow the Habs to get Hossa without affording Ryder the opportunity of biting them in the ass 4 times a year, additionally the Thrashers would get a capable replacement for Hossa and a versatile addtion to their D corps.

    We’ll see how this one pans out, but put me down as being all for it, I’ll be disappointed and mildly surprised if it doesn’t happen.

  115. likehoy says:

    definitely not…the guy can’t play without wingers…he can’t play as a second line centre either…

    plekanec is our number 1 centre and he’s going to get our two best wingers, kostitsyn and kovalev

    Richards…for 7.8 mil will put up around 70 points a year with wingers like higgins and ryder (bar any of them going the other way. Richards is a soft centre too for his size and he’s a better passer than a scorer (and we have plenty of passers on this team…we need more scorers)

    also i don’t believe any of this dependable two-way player thing. +/- figures don’t make a big difference if you’re a minus for a year or if you’re around the 0 mark…but when you’re a combined -40 in two seasons…it means you’re not pulling your own weight defensively…I don’t know what kind of argument you can make cause i know a lot of people have complained that ryder nor koivu have been pulling their own defensive weights.

    In conclusion, richards reminds me of ribeiro.

  116. Will Longlade says:

    You’re absolutely right. It creates a fiscal imbalance that the team will never recover from.

  117. Habsrule1 says:

    The only way BG does the deal is if he has him locked up in a contract.

    Go Habs Go!!

    Habsrule

  118. Chuck V. says:

    Well it was bye-bye for Ryder anyways, and Streit was just holding onto his spot because of his contribution to the PP. He’s not a great defenceman and when Gainey wouldn’t have guaranteed him a spot on one of the defensive pairings rather than as a forward, he probably would leave anyways as he’s always said he prefers defence.

    With this deal at least we’re getting value from them while we still can

  119. Bean says:

    Ok, but for how much?

    Twice what we’re paying Kovalev? I don’t think Hossa’s worth that kind of money.

  120. cautiousoptimist says:

    Because it only costs us two UFAs that won’t re-sign here anyway – Ryder because of his lousy season, and Streit because another team will offer him more than we will.

    As for Hossa re-signing with us, this is the kind of fast, skilled, young, contender team that he’s been looking for. We’ve got $4M of cap room, and if Ryder goes, we’ve got $7M. There’s Hossa’s salary.

    http://www.flickeringpictures.com

  121. RS says:

    I would support this rumoured trade, even assuming as I would, that the Habs would have trouble signing Hossa in the off-season. If it happens it should be looked at and judged as a rental. I think it would be worthwhile, but it is all just fun speculation at this point. Even IF it does involve Ryder and Streit, it would also include a prospect or two. Who would that be? Grabovski? Fischer? There’s a long list of Hab prospects. It obviously makes quite a difference who is involved. I still think Hossa has potential as a rental for the Habs.

  122. RS says:

    There’s would also be a prospect involved. The question is: which one?

  123. Blitzen says:

    I think what makes this trade even more likely is that Eklund hasn’t talked about it yet today. He was actually beginning to move away from Hossa to MTL to Sundin to MTL.
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  124. cmac says:

    My goodness.

    I hate to get my hopes up before anything publicly stated as a done deal by the teams, but Hossa in a Habs uniform would be almost orgasmic.

    I’ve been calling that trade since October because I’ve felt that he’s precisely the kind of player we need (although we also could use a big, scoring Center a la Jokinen also).

    Hossa is precisely the kind of player that could really open things up and get Koivu and Higgins going on that line!

    From the blueline in, hes one of the most dangerous players in the league.

    I hate to see Streit go because he’s such a good player and a good story too.

    But we have Sergey Kostitsyn, Gorges and Kovalev who could all play the point as well.

  125. Morenz7 says:

    I think the big story here is that the Habs have a press leak in the office of their equipment contractor. Stephen Harper would have fired them by now.

  126. Chuck says:

    The Habs are 3rd in scoring, but 17th in goals against. Doesn’t anyone find it strange that Bob appears to define scoring punch as his most pressing need? The stats say that a veteran, defensively sound defenseman should be at the top of his list.

    That said, Hossa and Kovalev on the same team… you think our powerplay just got a little better? :)

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  127. Chuck V. says:

    Yes, we’re third in scoring, but like we all know, we only have one truly dependable line. While they others contribute here and there, there’s no denying that Hossa would get that Koivu line going again.

    Regular season stats are nice, but I think that Bob knows we’re going to need some secondary scoring in the playoffs and Hossa is just the type of guy we need to put the puck in the net.

  128. Ian G Cobb says:

    You are correct sir. The power play is a little tricky to get better than 1st Chuck. Goals against and faceoffs are the only area that needs to be addressed, and this will come with time.

  129. Ed says:

    I find all this wild trade speculation hilarious. Boone sure knows how to bring us all to our keyboards. What is this rumour based on? It’s based on ordering equipment for Hossa. What equipment is Hossa missing. He has been playing in the league for a long time now. You would think he would have his equipment by now, unless they are talking about sweaters, helmet, gloves, all the external things that require team colours.

    How did this vital information get leaked out. Heads will roll if Gainey finds who is the mole. Could it be the same mole that leaked the vital “equipment ordered” information for that trade several years ago with Chicago. How come no body is commenting on that trade which never happened? Did Brunet report it back then? Imagine Nikolai Khabibulin and Adrian Aucoin, for José Theodore, Mike Ribeiro and Pierre Dagenais. Now, that would have been a trade.

    Okay, I want to know the details on what equipment has been ordered for Hossa before I give this rumour any credence. I am still laughing.

  130. krob1000 says:

    That trade got squashed because of a broken ankle to Aucoin I think someone stated on another post. The deal is by no means done but those who beleive a trade is being attempted are the realists and those who say stand pat are actually the ones living in the fantasy world on this one.

  131. Ian G Cobb says:

    Here is the big trade that we all have been waiting for, it is the very best move that our top GM in this league just put together. Mtl. has just ordered new equipment this morning for them, extra large.

    Ryder, Brisebois, Denis, and Chipper for Jason Weiss, Yeats, and Dave Stubbs.
    We are giving them multi year contracts. It will be a fantastic move, what do you think all you traders.????

  132. MikeL says:

    haha so exactly what team do they play for? And what are their salaries?

  133. showey47 says:

    Ian, can i be part of the trade going to the habs, lol? I can play either center or right wing.

  134. krob1000 says:

    Ian how can you deny now that we are trying to make a trade for an impact player…seriously…..when the whole world disagrees with you(Gainey and every hopckey expert in the world) you have a very important question to ask yourself. It is one thing to agree or disagree with it but to just flat out deny that it is a possibility……you are either too loyal or just playing us for fools.

  135. Jay in PA says:

    Yeats and Stubbs were the cornerstones of the deal. Weiss was just a throw-in.

  136. razor436 says:

    I’d hate to see streit leave us. I was hoping we’d give up players that I have not come to know so it does not feel like I’m losing a friend. 8(

  137. Richard B says:

    I feel like that also,…and as Streit has seen such large improvements in his game since joining the Habs he seems like he is more hab than any of the other players on the team. (Except for maybe Koivu).

  138. Richard B says:

    Ya…me too,
    I am good enough to fill in for Breezer or Smokes in the press box.
    And I’d sit there night after night for ahhh…$90,000 per year.
    And actually, if the Habs look after my housing and meals, i could live on an allowance of $500 per week.
    8)

  139. Ian G Cobb says:

    You can play R wing on my line anytime Showey, if you can keep up.

  140. Trashknob says:

    In case your wondering, trashy knobs do not have feelings. They are knobs that are trashy. I am one.

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    I got 40 to 1 odds they’d make it to the cup final at the beginning of the season. WHO’S LAUGHING NOW??? KO HABS KO!!

  141. Trashknob says:

    I am a trashy knob.

    nuff said.

    by the way, wishful thinking would be to say that we will get BOTH Tanguay AND Hossa on a line with Koivu and still keep Higgins.

    Now that would be SWEET!!! but i’ll be the first to say that unless bob is actually the Borg, that won’t happen.

    Is it REALLY that wishful? We’re about to find out…

    Hypothetically, would you trade Higgins for Tanguay? I sure wouldn’t.

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    I got 40 to 1 odds they’d make it to the cup final at the beginning of the season. WHO’S LAUGHING NOW??? KO HABS KO!!

  142. Lafrich says:

    I simply wouldn’t trade Higgins for anyone…OK, for Crosby…ok for Ovechkin…ok…for Lecavalier. I think you get my point.

    He is not having the greatest of seasons, but he will be another Kirk Muller with more speed. He is a rare breed of player that is a leader, a two-way dynamic player, and an offensive player that will contribute with 35 goals/75-80 points a year.

  143. doug says:

    this made me laugh. . . hilarious post. . . and while it could be interpreted as negative against trashyknob i choose to believe lafrich was just being funny – hilarious, in fact.

  144. Lafrich says:

    Thank you Doug. No negativity at all.
    just enjoying the morning as a fan of the top team in the eastern conference, and the best franchise in sports! I am talking about the Habs, by the way…

  145. 9410 says:

    Listening in on the Puckcast, there was some mention of the reaction Bob Gainey would get at his jersey retirement ceremony. For some reason, some people feel Gainey has not been very good at putting this team together.
    Hamrlik, Huet, Price, Both Kostitsyn brothers, Lapierre, O’Byrne, Begin, Streit, Kovalev, Halak, and Latendresse were all brought in by Bob Gainey.
    Not to mention the depth he has drafted, where the Habs boast one hell of a farm system; with Halak, Chipchura, Emelin, Valentenko, McDonagh, Paccioretty, Fischer, Maxwell, Ryan White, Yannick Weber, PK Subban, Cameron Cepek, and Mathieu Carle.
    The fact is that Bob gainey has developed this team into a good product on the ice, with all signs showing that it could very well be something great, in the not so distant future. This Organization has great scouting, bolstered by the recent addition of Frank Jay
    Who has been a crucial part in developing the farm systems of Ottawa and New Jersey, both teams who have shown a very strong tradition of good draft picks.

    Bob Gainey is one of the biggest reasons for making this team what it is, his patience and dedication to the organization has resulted in what we are currently watching, a young team with a lot of the right pieces making a strong push in the right direction.
    A team with a good cap situation, and a very strong core. He has surprised us time and again, the Price Drafting, Bringing in Kovalev, pulling in very talented players late in the draft; Streit, Sergei K and Halak.

    His track record with Montreal as a GM is not one of stellar success, but he has been able to put this organization well on its way to regaining some measure of its former pride, respectability and mystique. I’m not saying he’s the second coming of Sam Pollock, but in my opinion he is one of the top ten GM’s in the industry.

    I’m waiting with baited breath for Febuary 23rd 2008, where, if the fans remember him as the team-first, heart on his sleeve, never say die, dignified player he was, and as the very skillful, patient, insightful GM he is. Bob Gainey will be given an reception the kind of which he greatly deserves; the kind that has been reserved for Beliveau, Richard and few others who have truly turned the Montreal Canadiens, from simply being a hockey team, to being an Institution.

  146. Ian G Cobb says:

    9410– Wonderful post, you have a much better way of putting across what I know and feel is truly the main reason for our success.

    A true champion, and we are very fortunate to have him at the helm. Mr. Bob Gainey.

  147. Ian G Cobb says:

    Mike L–not hard to catch a fish when you use the same bait.!!!

  148. Richard B says:

    Does anyone know Bob’s e-mail?
    I think I need to give him some advice.
    8)

  149. Rogie30 says:

    AlotaHossa.com.

  150. Ed says:

    I don’t doubt that a trade is being worked on, but how would the media find out that equipment has been ordered for Hossa? Also, how does Brunet know about the equipment ordered several years ago? He must have a source in the Montreal organization. I just find it funny that a trade rumour would be based on a possible equipment purchase. Is it fair to say that from now on equipment purchases will be considered as a reliable source.

  151. krob1000 says:

    I still think this deal is less than 50% likely to happen but it is definitely being attempted in some form and Gainey would not being doing his job if he wasn’t trying to upgrade. If he doesn’t it will be because the cost was too high and I have the utmost confidence in him and the rest of the Montreal organization.

  152. Ed says:

    I am sure that Gainey is trying to upgrade through a trade as well. He has thrown out too many hints to think otherwise, i.e., an impact player. He is more than capable of making the proper trade. The guys on Team990 said they knew about the equipment 2 weeks ago, and that this is standard procedure for someone who might be coming this way. It does not mean he is coming here, but it sure looks like Gainey is trying. Team990 also said that Hossa is sitting out tonight with the flu, and they think this is suspicious. Maybe Gainey is waiting until Hossa is flu free.

  153. Chuck V. says:

    are you serious? I mean Streit is alright and all but it’s not like he’s been with the team for that long anyways. In any case he only started becoming a factor last year…

    People seem to be sticking up for Ryder now (surprise, surprise it only comes out after a recent hot streak) and all of a sudden Streit is an untouchable. Seems like everyone is a little gun-shy at this point but I don’t really see why… We’re one impact player away from being cup contenders, and Ryder and Streit have played negligible roles on the team’s success this year. Granted, Streit is versatile and is great on the PP, but we have the pieces to recover from his loss, and don’t tell me that Hossa wouldn’t more than make up for it on the PP.

  154. Chuck V. says:

    Ryder has never had a 100 point season. Nor a 92 point season. Nor has he scored 45 goals in a season. I can keep going if you’d like but the point is if we really do have the chance to land an IMPACT player for 2 good but not great players, we’d be crazy not to do it, especially if we can get Hossa signed long-term

  155. Bean says:

    The money part is what’s really sticking in my throat too. Why go after an UFA who’s already overpaid?

    Inside/Outters who like this trade: what do you think’ll happen come summer? Hossa’ll command huge money and if he doesn’t get it here, he’ll get it somewhere else. So, bye-bye Streit and Ryder and prospect for a short-term rental? It doesn’t sound so good then.

  156. Rogie30 says:

    Timo, its a great deal, and just went to a couple of sites where it was said if we dont get him, Ottawa has a package including Vermette and a defenseman with Emery to get him.

  157. Ian G Cobb says:

    Look I had better come clean with you krob, I have an advantage on you I admit, so when Bob calls me for the OK, I’ll post it here for you to tell the world.

  158. krob1000 says:

    lol…join the dark side Luke….

  159. Chuck V. says:

    Timo

    I agree with you regarding Kovy, and I really do think that he is one of the league’s top performers this year. However, while Hossa hasn’t been living up to his billing this year, I really do believe that he’s worth the trade even as a rental. In Atlanta he’s suffering from being on their one dangerous line, but if he were to play with Saku and Higgy, then we’d have two legitimate top lines, meaning he’d either get a lot more space or the Kovy line would. I can only see good things coming from this.

    As I’ve already posted, I really do think that Ryder will be gone next year and there’s a good chance that Streit will be too. While the latter is great on the PP, he’s not a complete d-man and we’ve got guys in the system like Valentenko, Subban, McDonaugh, etc.. that are all great prospects with offensive upside. I don’t really think that Gainey would sign Streit to a long-term deal with the depth we have in our defensive corps. As for Ryder, even if he does regain his form I’m honestly convinced he’ll want out of Montreal. Atlanta might just be the perfect spot for him where he can score goals without all the constant Montreal pressure.

  160. cautiousoptimist says:

    Kovy’s salary reflects his contributions over the past few years, and Hossa’s will too.

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  161. Diriangen says:

    Long time reader, first time poster…

    I would not like this trade! I think the value that Streit brings to this club, both in terms of versatility and productivity (especially on the powerplay) is one of the main reasons why the Habs are where they are: in first place.

    Don’t do it Bob!

    Go Habs!

  162. Ian G Cobb says:

    Your correct Diriangen–Streit is the one player that holds this chemistry together. And I don’t think we can keep Hossa here at the end of this season anyway. I think this is someones pipe dream, and i’m not sure what is in the pipe.!!!!

  163. Habs-Kat says:

    I think I like that more than giving up a Higgins package, but even so – I don’t think I want a trade to upset the team.

  164. Cable Guy says:

    I also don’t think we should do this trade, this team plays very well together and are just getting better. I think the chemistry is the best I’ve seen in years and would hate to upset that by making a trade right now.

  165. Lafrich says:

    Although I would hate to see those two guys go (both of whom are Habs since day 1), the Canadiens would all of a sudden have 2 “first lines”. Kovalev-Kost-Plek, and Koivu-Higgins-Hossa…wow!

  166. Trashknob says:

    Here’s where I think this is going:

    Ryder and a pick to Calgary for Tanguay (let’s Calgary free up cap space and keep immediate scoring prowess)

    Tanguay and Streit to Atlanta for Hossa – Atlanta gets two strong players that they can keep for one elite player that they can’t keep.

    We get 5 time all-star, 192 points over the last two seasons, point-plus-per-game, still in his prime for years, make opposing D crap their pants when holding the puck Hossssssssssa. Nuff said. :)

    I’d say we do pretty damn well in that trade – assuming we keep Hossa which I have no doubt is the only way Gainey would pull the trigger on that.

    This would explain all the two way rumours involving montreal ryder tanguay Hossa etc.

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  167. Lafrich says:

    You are either:
    1. An insider and know something
    2. A brilliant strategist/analyst
    3. A wishful thinker

    I choose “3″

  168. Blitzen says:

    I don’t mind that trade so much actually.
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  169. pete says:

    guys..
    when you have the chance to land a proven quality-player such as hossa you don’t think twice
    let him come to montreal

  170. ddawwidd says:

    Don’t give Streit for a guy who has NEVER done anything exceptional in the playoffs. No-ssa.

    I would not change anything in this group of players. I’d be afraid of losing the chemistry.

  171. Trashknob says:

    Right cuz Streit has been SOOOOO incredible in the playoffs.

    PS: wtf is up with the puckcast?!?!?

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  172. lemess says:

    They said the same thing about Alfredsson a few years ago….

  173. MAB the HAB says:

    This trade has Bad Karama written all over it.
    Notice how the team was so genuinely happy for Ryder after his goals on Tuesday and Kovy’s comments about it; notice Streit’s increased presence in every aspect of the Habs’ game… it’s part of the chemistry that is so risky to tinker with.
    Hossa and his prolonged negotiation, his use of the media during it and his past in Ottawa all bring negative energy.
    I’m afraid this will be bad karma.


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