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Eller scored twice for the Canadiens, who also got a goal from Brendan Gallagher.
James Van Riemsdyk and Dion Phaneuf were the other Leafs scorers.
Toronto outshot the Canadiens 38-36.
Yeah I’m a glass half full guy, but maybe I saw the game differently than some, and it makes me sleep better at night and doesn’t make me get so worked up over a regular season loss. It’s an 82 game season and there will be games when breaks go the other way. I’m not even going to bother arguing with those who are blaming Price, I’m starting to realize it’s a waste of time, like beating your head against a wall. It was a crazy hockey game, seemed like both teams were playing run and gun and giving up a lot of glorious scoring opportunities at both ends. Habs went down 1-0 on a 5 on 3 PP but the Habs fought back and tied it up ( on an incredible patient hockey play by some Diaz guy that most here hate ). The kid line then tied it up and things were looking good. Leafs tied it on a great shot by Phaneuf and then went ahead on a short handed goal by Bozak. That goal rolled off Markov’s stick at the blueline, and Carey may of cheated a bit thinking Bozak was going to deke to the forehand before he went high blocker, but I’m not going start blaming anyone because it’s pointless. The backbreaker was the 4th goal, which was one of the luckiest bounces you will see pop back on the stick of Mason Raymond. This was one out of 82 games that either team could of won, if the Habs are well below 500 after 20 games, I’ll start to worry a little.
“They don’t hang Conference Championship Banners from the rafters here”
I still feel awful for Parros, he was playing a great game and doing his job well. A part of me wants to think it was a dirty move by Orr, but watching it again makes me think it was unlucky that Parros was throwing a punch just as Orr was pulling him down.
See that’s what I’m trying to figure out was it bad luck and accidental or was Orr being a turd and pulling him down with him?
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Orr was pulling him down, no question, which is dangerous, IMO. But normally a player can brace himself in that situation. It seemed to me that part of the problem was Parros was throwing a big punch that prevented him from using his arm to brace the impact and put him off balance, making him vulnerable just as Orr pulled him down. I doubt Orr did that on purpose…I think?
It was pure bad luck.
@B I’m not criticizing at all I really mean it as a question can you (as in anyone here) blame Orr for Parros’ injury by holding onto him.
No. Just bad luck. It’s instinct to grab on when you are falling.
Yep, I agree.
A few years ago, I was at public skating and a little girl, who was probably around seven-years old, accidentally bumped into me from the back. I lost my balance, and while falling backwards, I grabbed onto the girl’s arm and pulled her down with me.
She was unhurt, but quite startled and crying. Did I do it on purpose? Of course not–it was purely instinctual. But that didn’t stop me from feeling like a douche for days after, and blaming myself for almost hurting a little kid.
Anyway, just a story from my so-called life.
There was a lot to be disappointed about tonight. Many of our top players didn’t make an impact and our defence had a few too many breakdowns.
But perhaps the most telling statistics are that we were shorthanded 7 times, and went 0/4 on the PP. that’s where the game was lost.
Could have won the game with one or two PP goals :s
exactly – 2 fluke goals and a few bad penalties. the game could have gone wither way.
So how does this work? We lost George Parros to concussion, he’ll be out for a while, do we just sign the next available goon, drop him in the roster, so he can neutralize the other team’s goon? I know the Oilers just snapped up Steve MacIntyre, so he’s gone, who’s the next name on the list? Does Frontenac get his wish and get to see Trevor Gillies in bleu blanc rouge?
And then, when we play the Leafs again, they’ll have Frazer McLaren back, and that Mark Fraser kid is even tougher with that steel plate in his forehead, so we better get two more enforcers, just in case. The Bruins have Sean Thornton and our bugaboos Zdeno Chara and Milan Lucic, the Sabres’ Steve Ott and Patrick Kaleta will run rampant with John Scott and Cody McCormick on their shoulder, and the Senators have Chris Neil, Matt Kassian and a horde of defencemen over 6’4″, one of which goes by the name of Gryba. Might be a good idea to get a spare enforcer too, in case one of our three enforcers gets injured. Those guys are going to be busy, protecting Brandon Prust and Travis Moen and Ryan White so they don’t have to fight all the time.
Tonight, we won the battles but lost the war. George Parros did exactly what he was brought here to do, which is cancel out Colton Orr. George actually won both fights, but during the second got dragged down and landed face first on the ice, knocking him out. I don’t believe this is his first concussion, so his absence could be prolonged. If I was him, I’d not be in a rush to get back in the lineup, not on my final year on my contract. I’d make sure I was absolutely completely symptom-free, plus a couple more weeks to be on the safe side, before I even thought of getting back to the grind. This is a young man’s game, and I don’t know if George had any designs on playing much longer, it’s debatable what he would gain by coming back sooner rather than later.
During that same scrum which precipitated Parros-Orr I (or was is VII or VIII, do we count the previous tilts when they played on different teams?) Jarred Tinordi ended up with Carter Ashton in his arms, and that poor fool dropped his gloves, possibly not having seen exactly who had a hold on him. Anyway, Mr. Ashton immediately regretted doing so, because he got filled in by Jarred, but this is where the asymmetric warfare angle kicks in. The Leafs are sure to take offence to this fight, never mind that their kid kind of started it, and next game Jarred will get a visit from a Leafs enforcer, and the violence, instead of being “settled on the ice”, instead of being defused by players policing themselves, will escalate. We should probably get another enforcer to protect Jarred.
Travis Moen played a good game, and stepped up by jumping in when Mark Fraser was running around being a pain. Last season, whether it was contractitis, as many fans surmised, or the aftereffects of a concussion from the previous season, Travis was more of a diplomat, waiting for the referees to intervene before mixing in and giving opponents a stern talking to. He’d cruise in to a situation, allowing Ryan White to get there first and barge in. Tonight, Brandon Prust looked like he was about to go when Travis intervened and took on Mr. Fraser, and gave a very good account of himself, after the seemingly interminable negotiations over the removal of the visored helmets. Travis killed penalties, had a couple of scoring chances, he was involved, which wasn’t always the case last season.
Some are already speculating that Brandon Prust must be playing hurt, which is why Travis jumped in between him and Mark Fraser. Brandon had to skip the last couple of pre-season games and a practice for a therapy day, so it’s reasonable to ask the question. He did seem more hesitant than usual. Which effectively leaves us down two enforcers, if Brandon can’t go, and with George out of the lineup.
On further thought, let’s get one more additional extra spare enforcer off that list, just to be on the safe side.
What’s that? The game? Oh yeah, the game. As in who won? Well, we lost. Lars Eller had a good one, two goals, one assist, did well on special teams, his line looked good, better than pre-season. He didn’t fight though. Carey Price stopped 34 of 38 shots, for an .895 save percentage, not good enough. He didn’t fight either. The Desharnais line and Plekanec line didn’t fight none of them, not a one. Andrei Markov bobbled the puck in the offensive zone on the powerplay, and caused a turnover that ended up in our net, and didn’t make up for it, he didn’t fight neither.
… you know, because there’s no way hundreds of overcompetitive stars with massive egos would ever cheat to gain an edge with hundreds of millions of dollars at stake.–Bill Simmons
Price didn’t fight?!? He made 6 or 7 amazing saves and kept this game from getting out of hand. Save percentages mean nothing if you don’t look at what’s going on on the ice.
Can CONFIRM Parros suffered a councussion. Get well Big man
I support Carey Price
Hope you’re not looking for a joke there, kid.
Nope I CONFIRMED the trade the sent the big man here, he is truly one of my favs, wouldnt joke about this my friend.
Hockey is back, and so are the the panicking fans and trolls.
Unfortunately, that seems to be part of the deal.
Nevertheless, tonight’s game was entertaining, and that does not include the horrible incident regarding Parros. Anyhow, even though we lost, we showed that we are a good team that can score goals. 2 of the goals scored against us were quite fortuitous and opportunistic, and not to discount them, as this happens quite often, but it just goes to show that to score against us, the goals better be high quality or good bounces.
Eller was stellar, and so were his G’s. The other guys, they were ok, but we were deflated after the incident. However, we did put up a very solid effort and will be better in the end.
Tinordi will make mistakes like that, so get used to it. Markov will contribute more than he takes away, so relax and accept it.
The Habs are a team in transition. If you don’t accept or realize this, you’re in for a hugely rude awakening. Not to say we won’t make the playoffs or compete therein, but it will be a hell of a contest (a fun one nonetheless).
Either way, take comfort that the Leafs are performing near their ceiling, while we are constantly improving by inserting our young guys and transitioning from old to new. The Leafs are pretty much as good as they can be with their prospects and pickups, while our limit is way higher.
Hockey sine stercore tauri.
nice post – last year the habs did get a lot of bounces that led to some goals – the season before not so much. tonight Toronto got all the bounces. I was impressed by eller as i am the first to admit i do not think he is ready for the big time. most of the team played as expected (except markovs gift).
it was a close game – habs won the fights but did not get the bounces. also took some bad penalties.
Go Habs Go!!
When do we push the panic button
I pushed it after the 2nd period tonight.
I pushed it after Plekanec lost the opening faceoff
price haters – too bad u don’t know hockey…. which of the goals were bad goals? first was a fluke and last was a fluke. pneufs laser from 15 feet? markov giving up a breakaway. yes the first was very savable but it was not a bad play- he had to get over fast bc a wide open player on the corner of the crease. price made 2 awesome saves in the third – if you missed them then you are just listening to the telecast and not realizing what is happening. price is an above average goalie – is he top 5 – well no but he is very good.
Bad night all around. My horses ran like they had Markov knees and didn’t do squat. Between races watched the boys start the season in a rather disappointing fashion. I fear that injuries could sink our chances. They seem to be a bit fragile to me. Well, it’s a long season. That’s a good thing, right?
Just incase anybody cares…Habs have now lost 7 of 8 at home to the leafs. The Habs always seem to be at the short end of the measuring stick when it comes to division rivals. Ottawa beats the crap out of the small Habs team last spring…MB goes out and gets an enforcer..he plays 1 game..carted off on a stretcher. Now the team looks no different than last year..maybe a little smaller. There are players on the Habs roster that wouldn’t crack any other line up in the NHL. Does 1 team need 4 forwards under 5’10”? Besides P.K. and Tinordi who really belongs on the blue line? Markov’s is 5 years and 2 knee surgeries beyond his best before date. New Management same results..another loss at home to leafs.
Go Habs Go!!
lol its true.
Lol don’t you have an imaginary date to be at?
Looks like you got your own size issues to deal with, in any case, a hockey forum is not the place to get advice on such things.
I guess in your case it’s ok to walk around with flowers in your shoes..as for the rest of us…The Habs have major issues.
habs look like last year? well they were second in the entire east so that aint too bad.
I was afraid to watch tonight’s game. Why? Well I live in Toronto and I have been a Montreal fan for most of my 51 years. I am happy that I had saw some glorious winning championships in the 70s as a Habs fan. The last few seasons between TO & Mon have been filled with fights and goals and sometimes, mostly Toronto though, having the better goaltender. Last season the Leafs won 3 out of 5 in this rivalry. But there is always something that happens when these two teams play. Toronto definitely has had the upper had, no pun intended but literally they get under the Habs skin and win. Last season’s opener was another TO win. It may have been a 2-0 W I don’t recall but the Habs tonight lost their momentum when Parros went down. The pieces began to fall for the Habs. Price was not 100% and even though he regained his composure he should of had 2 or 3 out of 4 goals. Two goals were on his glove side. Yes, I know it is only one game but I worry about Scary Price. The Habs can score with players like Eller but they still need a strong goaltender to win @ their end!!!!!!!!!!!! Maybe the Habs need a better psychology staff or doctors because this team like other years seem fragile. Toughness in mind and body is what is needed to win especially on opening night.
What part of TO do you live in, Timothy?
One goal was glove side. Two were blocker side (which is where you might consider him weak. Not glove side. Not at all.), and one was five hole.
The one that was glove side was a perfect shot that would go in on anybody.
I’ve always truly hoped that Price would succeed, he seemed to have so many natural abilities and was almost certainly mishandled early in his career here.
There’s an obvious trend here though and sooner or later we may have to face facts. His save percentage has been dropping significantly since 10/11 and his record over the last 20 games or so last year was something like 7-13. He’s also started this year with a loss and a .895 SV percentage. Not good.
You can’t quote stats and ignore what is happening on the ice. Price played great tonight. Sv%, GAA, etc. those stats mean nothing. The only number that matters is 4, and that’s on everybody. That’s on the two guys in the penalty box on the first goal, that’s on the Dman that got caught allowing Phaneuf to be wide open on the second goal, that’s on the defenceman who coughed up the puck for a breakaway, that’s on the defenceman who got caught allowing a two on one for the fourth goal.
The amount of goalie bashing that goes on here is disgusting and it makes me wonder who here has actually played any real hockey. If you talked like that about your goalie, your ass would have splinters all season long.
Lets get rid of hitting, skates, sticks. Anything else we can think of?
Hitting, skates, and sticks are necessary to play hockey.
Fighting isn’t. It is a major penalty, every time.
Soccer seems to do alright without those accessories.
Soccer isn’t played on ice with a puck.
And hitting is allowed in soccer, you just have to time it right!
But diving seems to be endemic in both sports.
You may be too serious tonight, Chris.
Adidess: my sense of humour was destroyed for the night when Parros hit the ice.
I am not entertained. Sadly, a whole lot of people probably were.
Tonight was a parody of a hockey game. 5 fights? For what. Absolutely freaking pointless…there was not a single “heat of the moment” fight that was necessary tonight. The closest was Moen-Fraser, and the play that predicated it was hardly worthy of a fight.
Montreal played the Leafs game and they got burned. Maybe they will learn their lesson for the rest of the season, because they should not be engaging in that nonsense.
I entirely agree on that front, Chris.
And if ever hear one more person say fighting allows the players to police the game and keep it clean, I’m going to p**e. I can’t imagine anything uglier than what resulted from the fights tonight. Completely ruined the opening game of the season, which is supposed to be a marquee event.
But but but… Me want SMASH!!!
I can’t wait for Sochi so we can see some of those sweet olympic line brawls.
Ask any person who has played the game at a high level, most of them say keep fighting.
ROFL! That is not true.
Confirmed though, right?
I would challenge that statement, and add even if they did, that doesn’t make them right
I did…asked a guy who played four years (he had over 25 career fights in the OHL) in the OHL and who was told to fight by his coaches to protect his superstar teammate who is now in the NHL. He didn’t enjoy it at all, but he was told to do it. And he was often pissed off that he had to defend the star players on his team, who were dirty and chirpy. He only had a couple of fights that came about organically. Most were staged fights where he was protecting teammates that he couldn’t stand, because he was the biggest guy on the team that was good enough to play heavy minutes.
Yeah, that’s why 2/3 of the players in the NHL didn’t even fight once last year.
Only game 1, but Diaz reminded me a lot of MAB sans the shot.
Price was, well, Price.
Too bad that Brière, DD and Pacs didn’t do much. Then again, they were outmuscled all over the ice.
Really good start for EGG.
Not a good start for Markov.
Glad they scored 3. Unfortunately, they should have allowed 5 or 6.
MT, you have lots of work to do.
There is a lot of reason to be optimistic — our future (EGG, Tinordi) played extremely well tonight. Markov has this year left on his contract, so does Gionta. Moen played a solid game.
If we had older guys with no one to step up, I’d be disheartened. But we have talented guys ready to take over.
I’m excited to see Bournival play.
Our team is built on character and speed, and I think we saw a lot of both tonight (Gio, Markov aside).
I thought Tinordi was awful tonight. Not that he was alone in that. 🙂
Also, put PK on the PK!!!!
Positive note: Eller is amazing, phenomenal. EGG line is good.
Just a thought:
Is it possible that MB has an agreement with MT to limit Subban on the PK to make that an excuse for his contract extension to be less expensive? That is my only possible explanation because clearly Markov and Diaz have no business killing penalties.
That’s quite the conspiracy theory.
Sometimes I wonder myself…
Why would you not play PK on the PK? It’s just unfathomable.
Thing is, if MT chooses to listen to MB and uses an inferior PK unit that makes him lose more games and miss the playoffs, he’ll be fired by MB. See how that works, so it would be dumb for Therrien to listen.
If you ask me whether they would use a poor season against Subban in the negotiations, the answer is yes. But one doesn’t necessarily lead to the other.
These people know the business side of hockey and they understand the amount of money the team can make by making sure they get the best out of PK is vastly superior to what they would save on the next contract by holding PK back. Though MT confuses me too by the way he manages PK and the roster, the notion that coach and GM are conspiring to drive the price down on PK’s contract is ridiculous. Because PK will get paid handsomely in this current market, regardless of any strategy to hold him back.
It’s just my only logical explanation because one would think Therrien has a smart enough hockey mind to realize that Markov is simply not getting the job done and perhaps Subban should be given a shot at more than 44 seconds on the PK.
On a positive note it was nice to see Eller pick up where he left off after having his face massacred by Gryba. What was his minutes total?
13:01 even strength
1:29 power play
1:50 penalty kill
@Arnou: No, listen carefully: I defend him when he’s criticized unfairly. I am NOT defending him tonight because he sucked tonight. Criticism tonight is fair.
I don’t think it’s stupid to defend him if the criticism is unwarranted, as it can be.
Don’t waste your internet-breath on that ding-dong.
—Hope Springs Eternal—
It’s pretty telling that the only time I notice DD now is when he falls down, thanks in no small part to the Chinese-water-torture-like DD bashing I am subjected to on this forum. And I’ve caught myself having an almost Pavlovian reflex to shout, “DD sucks!!” every time it happens.
Man, I really need to spend some quality time with a good book…
Might I recommend 11/22/63?
Excellent,if somewhat verbose novel by Stephen King.
Just bad luck
I support Carey Price
I’m now starting to see the fruit of Marc Bergevin’s labour during last summer. Bravo!
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