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First loss when scoring first.
First loss when leading after two.
And let’s be honest: First-class effort by a very good hockey team.
By occasional Bob Cole senior moments do you mean his occasional CBC broadcasts?
It’s no wonder Richards is monkey-see-monkey-doing the Cherry veiled threat tango. I remember Cherry gushing over his little pit-bull Richards during last years playoffs.
What has Cherry won let alone done in Hockey? One measly Jack Adams award? There’s the pinnacle of his career. A year the Habs won the Cup over those other hockey boors the Filthydelphia Flyers.
The fact that neither Richards nor Cherry have been reprimanded for their actions has to be addressed. This is a travesty. Both the CBC and the NHL are looking toothless. Maybe they think that’s Bobby Clark chic for acting tough.
Indeed sir! Good points and thank you for the info 🙂 I appreciate it!
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Nicely said. The real “culture” story is not about the rookies but about the poor role models that the up-in coming players have in Richards, Kovelchuk and at times Crosby. The kid has a passion to play that surpasses the commercialism of today’s superstar veterans. Maybe Gio’s and Gomer’s salary is worth it if they can continue to mentor PK. PK hasn’t “bad mouthed” any player in the press and has always shown respect to Crosby and Richards types in the media.
Right on the money Boone.
…is this the continuation of the Bettman-Crosby love affair?
Dear Mr. Bettman:
Since you became Commisioner of the NHL some 17 years ago, we’ve seen expansion of the league into new markets and we’ve seen the owners in most cities generate higher revenues, so I suppose that in their eyes, you’ve been a success. But in doing so, you’ve put profit and marketability in the southern United States ahead of everything else that matters to the fans that have supported this league through the years. Ticket prices in most markets where fans actually attend games have sky-rocketed, while the quality of the product has been diluted by the addition of those extra teams. Heated contests against past rivals in cities like Winnipeg and Quebec, where fans are passionate and knowledgeable about hockey, have been replaced by meaningless games against opponents in Atlanta, Nashville, Carolina, and Phoenix, where the atmosphere in arenas is dull and fans cheer for goals and for cheerleaders but seem to have little understanding of the intricacies of hockey. And the officiating, which was once at least consistent and respected, has become nothing more than a joke, with referees who either can’t discern what is and isn’t a penalty or else can but choose to make calls on the basis of who the player is, what team he plays for, or what the score is at the time.
One would have to believe this isn’t surprising, after incriminating evidence was made public recently showing Colin Campbell, the man you put in charge of discpline, was using his power to influence on-ice officials’ calls, if not using his own position to rule on suspensions on the basis of his personal opinion of players. Now perhaps Mr. Campbell was merely venting rage as a parent of a hockey player, but as fans with no access to what goes on behind closed doors, we have no way of knowing how impartial Mr. Campbell actually is. And therein lies yet another problem with today’s NHL, an utter lack of transparency into the rulings that are made. On-ice penalties and off-ice punishments are handled in such a way that there is no real explanantion given for why certain calls are made and others not. And there is no accountability, for the media have no access to the officials following games and teams are forbidden from criticizing their work unless they wish to be fined.
More recently, another example of your lack of judgment has come up, in the incident involving P.K. Subban and Mike Richards. In every day life, if one man were to threaten another and tell him he was likely to be hurt in the future, he could be arrested and charged. In other sports leagues, that player would certainly be fined and put under watch for his behavior. In your league, no action is taken and the player making the threats comes out the beneficiary both in terms of the intimidation factor he is able to instill in his opponent and in the eyes of certain media members such as Don Cherry, who not only fail to reprimand this type of behavior but actually commend it. Is this the type of league you are choosing to run? Is this the message you hope to pass on to young children and teenagers learning to play the game of hockey? The Flyers have always been and likely always will be a team that plays the game outside of the rulebook, but for fairness to be had by all the teams that for the most part, do play by the rules, players and teams have to be subject to the consequences of bending or breaking the rules. Since you have been in charge of the league, the rulebook has always seemed to have been interpreted loosely according to what the league feels is best for its premiere teams and economic interests, when in reality, it should be interpreted the same for all.
Mr. Bettman, you are a smart man, as evidenced by your education and time spent atop the NHL and in the NBA before that. As such, I am sure every move the NHL makes or doesn’t make is calculated and done with the utmost consideration for its consequences. And so I find it puzzling why this lack of transparency, accountability, and consistency persists after all these years. Certainly, if the NHL was interested in the opinion of its fans and the integrity of the game, it would have done more than brush off Mike Richards’ comments and it would have given a more detailed explanation of Colin Campbell’s actions, with better reasoning as to why he shouldn’t be fired or suspended. In the absence of this type of improvement, one can only assume that you yourself are not capable of running a league that is anything more than a for-profit business and that furthermore, you are incapable of appreciating that the only reason the NHl is even still afloat is that you have taken advantage of the common fan’s love for the game, something you yourself seem to have lost.
Apparently he has a lot of the same flair as PK from what I’ve read, concerns are he might not get as big as his brother but I think PK himself said he thinks Joran will be better than he is. I imagine there will be some attempts to trade up in the OHL draft to grab him and tap that hockey bloodline.
– I shall always remember Captain Koivu. Habs and Hockey.
Nice! Would love for it to be the 67’s so i could see him all the time, but they are going to finish way to high for that pick.
Woud you compare him to PK?
Whoever winds up in Toronto might as well sign up to join the PGA tour as well.
Goalies in Montreal have two roles, netminder and scapegoat.
Younger brother Jordan is eligible for the OHL draft this year and is favoured to go in the 1st round, a defencemen himself. OHL teams are going to be after him.
Anyone remember during a Philly vs. Habs game last year. I think it was still the regular season. Might have been PK’s first game. There was a play where PK was going for the puck near the boards and Pronger was taking a direct run at the “numbers” on PK’s back. But PK’s spidey sense was tingling (or somebody called out to him) and he dodged the hit. PK made the play with the puck and avoided the hit. Pronger face plated into the boards. Obviously humiliated, he turned to PK and called him a “person of cowardly standing” well thats not what I read on his lips but I’m sure you understand. Anyway, the replay showed there is noway Pronger could have mistaken it being a hit from behind.
No doubt rookies gotta show a little bit of respect. But vetrans have to be held to a high level as well. I know Pronger is no saint. Like that crap with the puck the other night is somewhat childish even. These “vetrans” have to lead by example. SO Richards can say all he wants, but with a teammate like Pronger, Richards loses all credibilty.
Totally agree with you. I love the fact that the Habs only usually dish 5 year (max) contracts. But like you say … as for Subban … i’d like ot ssee him get a bit more.
Which reminds me … got to see his little bro Malcolm in nets versus the 67’s on Friday. he played well but his defense left him high and dry a few times.
I think I might know what has gotten Richards so pissed off at PK.
I would imagine that a veteran like Richards would be really angry at PK taking a Nike endorsement contract that should be going to someone with real NHL experience. Imagine the nerve of that rookie.
Hey Richards, go back to pimping local used car lots. At least you got BMW’s to sell, it could be worse, it could be Kia’s. (That was the only endorsement deal I could find on Richards, but it was pretty funny that even a blogger with the handle “PhillyFever84” said “he looked straight up retarded in that commercial”)
I’m not, strict policy of not wanting to the Habs to have any contracts that last a decade not involving players named Subban, Doughty or Stamkos.
Good! All though, I must admit I am intrigued by a Gomez for Vinny trade (straight up) That being said, I’d still say no. I’d prefer to keep Gomez for his defensive abilities.
The miracle of tech we call PVR could save you. Perhaps it could work as well for students as it does for dads like me who have bath-time come up in the middle of the 2nd period.
Thanks for that Dru. It’s a pleasure, and, due to the infrequency, a surprise, to hear an intelligent viewpoint well articulated.
Was he a big Shayne Corson fan, or did he become a Shayne Corson fan after he went from Montreal to Toranna?
Dude, you were practically the only one defending Cherry on Saturday. Just give it up.
If Richards wants to win something, he’ll have spend a lot of his contract on lotto scratch tickets if he goes to TO.
Damn, I have to write a final essay for tomorrow, so I’m going to miss tonight’s game. Luckily, there’s always Canadiens Express on RDS.
If the laffs dump Grabovski next summer, they will have 13M coming off their cap. Lots of room to sign Richards.
Eff that crap, word’s getting around that Vinny is damaged goods.
hahaha, i hope not. ALso, beware the return of the dreaded Vinny to the Habs rumors now that Stamkos has safely stolen his spot.
Generally (& legitimately) true, SF — but he adores Patrick Roy, and did before he left us, and there are others. He was a big Shane Corson fan.
I will predict that when (not if) P.K. finishes the season like he will, and does (let’s be fair) drop the early Sid the Kid act, Cherry will praise him to the skies.
Time will tell if I’m right or wrong — & I’ll admit & do pennance if I should be proven wrong.
The only reason Richards would trash talk Subban is to get him off his game. He certainly isn’t worried about PK’s health or career prospects. The only reason for wanting to get PK off his game is because PK scares Richards (skill wise).
Scared people do stupid things. Richards has already done some. More may follow.
With a remark that is so cliche you could put in French and you’d swear a French Canadian of note and a pending free agent said it about Montreal, Brad Richards made mention of his upcoming UFA status prior to tonight’s match against Toronto and playing in a market like Toronto. That’s it, Brad Richards is the new Kovalchuk to the Maple Loafs fans, be ready for 7 months of Richards to TO stories.
The kid (a rookie at that) has twice the class and poise in his little finger, than has the CBC Cherry clown and Richards put together !
Nothing will come of this now for sure. Richards and Cherry look like fool’s already.
Richards wears the C for his hobby, Cocaine,!
Agreed Ian! Just wish we could score more then 2 or 3 goals on a consistent basis.
Here are this weeks statistics on where we place in this 30 team league, compared to where we were last week.
By far the most important stat is first. For it reflects the total teams performance to date.
Goals Against—39, We are in 2nd place. Last week we were in 4th place.
Total Points—–27, We are in 3rd place. Last week we were in 5th place.
Goals For——–51, We are in 21st place. Last week we were in 15th place.
These are championship winning statistics folks, that we have not seen in Montreal for the past 25 years.
It takes great vision over time, by great management boys and girls.
speaking of racism
I only say him play in the OHL about five times, but I think it’s safe to say that players have been taking runs at Subban for years. He is one guy that I’m not too worried about, he is used to it.
And after Richards opened his mouth, the league (believe it or not) will be watching. The Flyers would have to be stupid to try anything tonight. Well, in that case, maybe I am worried.
Don Cherry has never been a friend of anyone who wears the CH since they embarassed him 4 times straight in the 1970s which was basically the end of his coaching career.
It’s Xtra dontchaknow.
I think aside from the occasional Bob Cole senior moments, CBC still does a great job with game coverage. It’s the pre-game and intermission coverage that’s boring and uninspired.
I wuould agree, he would be a great replacement. The only downside is that Hamrlik still has better hands, but it’s not like he scores a tonne anyway.
Didn’t you know?
Don’s known “whatshisface” since he was 14!
great news he is gone but the season is lost…meanwhile the habs are playing very solid d and great goaltending…pk is great…the team knows that they will not win too many games where they give up 3 goals…it still would be nice to have at least one more forward with goal scoring ability…
High drama indeed.
So beating the Washington Capitals and Pittsburgh Penguins qualifies as? Also, for all your praise of goon-play, the Flyers certainly got their asses handed to them by the Blackhawks.
Also, ‘Adulterate the rules’? We’ve got ourselves a bonafide troll here, folks.
I find Friedman’s commentary vapid and uninspired. There is nothing redeeming about the CBC’s coverage fo the sport.
Truly sad when American coverage of the sport is better than an icon like “Hockey Night in Canada”.
not old yet not young but a very solid and steady dman .. i would love him with the habs
I would simply point out that Philly didn’t win the Cup. They were outskilled.
“From friends like Cherry”
Oh, you were being serious?
Here’s the rest of the article by the way.
1. Winnipeg and Quebec would be in it – Columbus and Phoenix wouldn’t
2. Burnsie would be in the HHOF
3. Jeremy Roenick would be commissioner – no wait a second……. .
A man’s attitude… a man’s attitude goes some ways. The way his life will be. Is that somethin’ you agree with?
The Globe had an article about the threats against Subban and racism today:
Bettman and Campbell would be exploring meaningful relationships at Pelican Bay State Prison.
Elliotte is the only credible CBC Sports personality. Love the guy!
Pedant. I was obviously just indicating where my comment was going to be, i.e. ‘here’, and then repeating it to avoid confusion.
Rats, that doesn’t sound believable to me and it’s my lie.
We crap all over the Flyers all the time for being classless goons… Is it because we’re racist against people who wear orange? Probably.
Back your statements up… This is anecdotal inanity. Quick – name 5 of the countless other trash-talking swaggering rookies from years past who didn’t get their share of abuse back.
Teemu? Ovy? Roenick? Avery? These guys were all criticized just like P.K. is.
Rookies get put in their place. Confident players open their mouths. It’s how it goes.
Naive to discout race? I think it’s foolish to jump to that.
I don’t think Richards was seriously threatening the kid. If PK was a trash-talking agitator, and thus just doing his job, Richards wouldn’t have said anything. It’s that Richards can see the talent. PK backs his mouth up with his game, and I think he successfully managed to get under the Flyers’ skin. And there ain’t nothing wrong with that.
Could be since Hamrlik mentored him in Calgary 🙂
the same coyotes team that finished with almost 30 points more than the habs last year in a far superior conference? hahaha Im with you on the fact that the location is a joke and that is the worst experiment in the history of professional sports, besides maybe the california golden seals, but gotta give credit where it’s due
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This could be the day — the very day — that P.K. makes his mark on the league.
As the wise heads below correctly say, he’s getting the attention because he looks like he’ll be an elite. If he can rise to match this — let it motivate him to excellence — especially tonight in a game this meaningful and with his most prominent critic, then he’ll be in.
He’s getting the Sid Crosby treatement — from friends like Cherry — and foes like the whining threatening typical-Flyer Richards.
This could be great.
Is robyn regehr going to be Hammers replacement after this season? …
It would be very beneficial for the Habs to pot one on their first PP. Let them know if they want to run around like idiots the Habs will pound them on the scoreboard.
Soft Euro play. You mean fast, skilled, right? What a drag THAT is to watch.
So much more fun to watch the truculent clutch-and-hold grinder “North American” style hockey, eh?
Agreed, I think PK is a very mature person and hockey player. Seeing all this criticism from homers cheering on other teams, just tells me that this kid is the best player we’ve drafted since Markov.
* Hear! Hear!
Chris Lee would be selling costume jewellery at Yonge & Dundas
The Phoenix Coyotes would be a softball team.
Officiating would be more reality-based and less sucky.
I think that a strong work ethic (which this club has in spades) is far more valuable in the long term than being ‘chippy, crazy mofos’.
From CBC’s Elliotte Friedman‘s weekly column 30 Thoughts:
22. Very interesting that Montreal’s coaches would
break up the successful Tomas Plekanec/Mike Cammalleri combination to
get Scott Gomez going. I think they’re getting really frustrated with
Gomez, who seems to be behind the play a lot.
23. Boy, is Max Pacioretty
coming on. Get the sense that if the Canadiens could do it again, they
wouldn’t rush him to the NHL. He played one season in the USHL, one
season at Michigan and half a year in the AHL before getting his shot.
Of course, when Jeff Marek relayed that theory to Pacioretty during
Sunday’s AHL on CBC game the winger shot it down like a World War I biplane.
24. Think Pacioretty also got a Clockwork Orange-style attitude adjustment from the organization.
25. For all of the craziness surrounding PK Subban,
there was an example of his maturity Saturday night. With a 2-0 lead
late in the third period, he did one of his spinaramas on a solo rush
near centre ice. Instead of continuing forward, though, he pulled up
and got it deep. Small thing, but a big thing. Smart play.
Here! Here! Well said, indeed. Richards strikes me as crying foul because a kid made him look bad and was part of the defense team that shut him out. PK handles himself with relative humility in the media scrums. Richards is the one taking his ball and going home. In addition to the level of play, what’s also at stake here is the level of maturity. PK still wins the day, so far, in my book.
Let’s start a “If this were a pro league… ” list, shall we?
1. Punishment would fit the crime
2. Leafs would not be in it [next]
While it could certainly be a contributing factor, I think the biggest reason PK is getting all the hate is because he’s an elite level talent. It reminds me of how much crap Crosby got when he came in the league. By all accounts Crosby chirps, he whines to the officials too. However Mike Richards does the exact same stuff, so does Getzlaf. Corey Perry has the reputation of being the dirtiest, and most gutless player in the NHL, but you never heard crap about them in their rookie seasons. The difference is that Perry, Getzlaf and Richards took a season or two to catch up to the NHL, and develop into the excellent players they are today. PK was nearly an elite defenseman from the moment he stepped on the ice against the Flyers last February, and he’s embarrassing veterans on a nightly basis by being plainly BETTER than they are. That’s why Mike Richards is pissed, because he was shown up by a kid.
Considering that we just pulled a player of PK’s calibre out of our farm system it really doesnt owe us anything. Nash might develop into a player given enough time but other than that our Hamilton defence is stocked with career AHL’rs.
Going to be a few draft years of 1st round defenders to restock the farm.
Of course you would.
Even though no one is admitting it, I have trouble believing that the color of PK’s skin doesn’t have a little something to do with all of this. It’s just a little odd that there have been countless other swaggering, trash-talking rookies with way less talent than PK, and no one’s said boo to them. The only major difference between those guys and PK is that he’s black.
Seems a little naive to totally discount the possibility, anyways.
agreed. white is out with a knee injury though.
Unfortunately White sustained a knee injury on Saturday’s Marlies-Bulldogs game and is out for at least a couple of weeks according to reports.
Was fortunate to catch the Bulldogs game yesterday on NHL Network. Looks like we’ve got a good group of forwards but we’re thin on defense. Curtis Sanford had to bail them out.
I’d like to see White in a game like tonight’s. I’d like to see him on the 4th line with Moen and Pyatt, bump up Eller to the third line with Lapierre and Halpie, bump up Benny to play with Gomez and Cammy, leaving AK46 with Pleks and Gio. No offense to Weber, I hope he gets a chance to shine somehow.
Lots of truth in that.
Damn, what a post. Quoted for F. truth!
People are going to hate Subban for a long, long time because of how good he is and how bad he makes the other side look at times and in 5 years, oh my. All the great players have this against them, Flyers make voodoo dolls of Sidney Crosby before he’s in town, Pittsburgh fans have Ovechkin dolls, the hockey fans in the state of California loathe when they see Drew Doughty or Ryan Getzlaf take to the ice against their team. You think people jump for joy when they see 40-year old Nick Lidstrom making their best defencemen look like a Junior A player in comparison?
Subban being this disliked just shows what we’ve got in him.
You know, if this league weren’t bush there would be no teams south of the Mason-Dixon Line. You know, where you can’t grow ice naturally?
Let’s face it, the Flyers will pull said bush league crap tonight, we’ll not have the meat heads to retaliate and the world will continue to spin.
Now if our PP works maybe the former pacifist coach Laviolette will actually return to his senses and reign in his ham and eggers.
But that’s not going to happen is it?
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