Costly W?

Markov hurt … again.

But what a butt-kicking to end a great week.


  1. HardHabits says:


  2. Chorske says:

    Still haven’t explained to me how Anaheim is a grittier team than we are.

  3. Chorske says:

    See? Feisty.

    It was SERGEI.

  4. HAB-PROFESSOR says:


    no minion de gauthier… its the only thing we lack on this exceptional team…its the only thing holding us back from going the distance, its the only thing that the sports media knocks us on… and the’re right.

    physicality is A part of the NHL.

  5. nightmare_49 says:


       More on Carter’s signing via Bob McKenzie’s twitter:

       Carter not eligible for no trade in Year 1. Has full no trades in Years 2, 3, 4. Modified no trade after that for duration.

  6. zozotheclown says:

    Thats what I used to think, but check it out

    Just about half the teams are at 100, while 4-5 teams are at or even past 110.

    Sorry for arguing, I’m just bored.

  7. Danno says:

    In the end it was quite a tail.


    “Hey Richard, two minutes for looking so good!”

  8. Exit716 says:

    Funny, old Al can dish it, but he can’t take it. Is there a market for washed up soft shit like Satan?


  9. nightmare_49 says:


       Party animal of the year, great link, Mr. B.

  10. CharlottetownHabbies says:

    6-1 Canadiens tonight, make us think they’re the real deal, then they play over confident but scared in Philly on Tuesday and lose 5-3.

  11. Anonymous says:

    Serge has been gone for a while. Have you thought about changing your avatar at all?

  12. Chuck says:

    Nah… and agent as respectful and honourable as Alan Walsh would never do something so childish.

    Centre Hice: New Canadiens rating systems

  13. andrewberkshire says:

    Totally semantics. But I doubt half the NHL can be around 100. Most teams have a PP under 20% and a PK ~80%.

  14. CharlottetownHabbies says:

    How about this, a Markov, a PK and 4 Gorges’es, that would be ridiculous. 


    Why can’t PG just crack open the NHL11 player editor and come up with them like that, drop them in the free agent pool and sign them?  (I think there are regular posters on here who think thats what the GM’s job is).

  15. Exit716 says:

    I feel bad for Walsh getting screwed over like that by the Montreal media.

    It wasn’t like he posted something derogatory about Price on his Twitter then took it down as soon as it became an issue.


  16. Chorske says:

    We’rrrre a feeeeiisty bunch tonight.

  17. nightmare_49 says:


       The refs for tonight’s game are Chris Rooney and Don VanMassenhoven. ….   Canes sniper TommyK. is still looking for his 1st goal of the season. ….  Dawgs just took a two goal lead on a goal by Max Pacioretty, his 4th.

  18. Shiloh says:

    Really liked the article about the value of players palying for at or near the league minimum (Pyatt, Darche, Halpern, Picard). The only bad thing is that some of these guys will likely get a better offer next year and we may not be able to keep them. Could be that’s why Ryan White is still in Hamilton – when we lose one of our inexpensive gems, up he comes.

  19. Tseth says:

    Canes should be worried. This isn’t a streak, we’re building a full-head of steam. Two locomotives and they’re bound to bump. Canes should be worried: 

    PK is holding it down

    P.K. Subban. Period. 

    Gionta is starting a point streak. 

    This is a PhD type of game. 

    Tom Pyatt time. Wanna see him skate all over the Canes. 

    PS beware the ghost of Ron Francis. 

  20. JF says:

    I sense a loss tonight.  After playing two great games against strong teams, it’s only too likely there’ll be a drop in the level of intensity and effort.

  21. nightmare_49 says:


       The Bulldogs are leading Grand Rapids 1 – 0 with eight minutes to go in the 2nd, Aaron P. has the goal, his third.

  22. zozotheclown says:

    Its true, a 90 PK would be kind of hard to maintain in the new NHL, so 110 is really for only the best 2-3 special teams teams in the league. But 100 being considered “very good” still seems like its setting the bar a bit low, I mean half the NHL is at or right around 100.

    Not that this matters anyway, its just semantics.

  23. HardHabits says:

    They only broadcast the games via drums and smoke signals where he lives, you know, in his cave.

  24. Chorske says:


    Not that there’s anything wrong with that.

  25. Chorske says:


    Same record skipping over and over.

    I liked Obie cos he overcame crap that would have sent lesser men scurrying from town with their tails between their legs (own goal AND a stolen purse?), and somehow managed to turn into a relatively reliable (if unremarkable) d-man. And he was as classy leaving as he was when he was here. But it stops there.

    And are you seriously suggesting that Obie had a howitzer? Really? More so than PK or Hammer or Marky? Really?

    The games are on TSN or RDS or CBC. You should watch.

  26. SeriousFan09 says:

    Time to start knocking some holes in Cam Ward’s record against us.

    Cammalleri scores FTW tonight.


    – I shall always remember Captain Koivu. Habs and Hockey.

  27. JIMVINNY says:

    Old news, Ian.  That was Wednesday night.

  28. HardHabits says:

    HP doesn’t want to see the Habs built from a team of pussies. He wants them to be Veteran And Gritty Youths of North America. In other words V.A.G.Y.N.A.‘s

  29. Chorske says:

    I nominate the Miro Satan to the Habs rumour as the biggest pile of crap I heard all week…. Heck, that even beat that crap about Regehr (via EKlund) yesterday. What’s that, Eklund? It’s 95% done? Just like my check is 95% in the mail and she’s 95% pregnant?


  30. smiler2729 says:

    Is it the product of Gary’s cap world?


  31. smiler2729 says:

    So they’re due to lose… F the Hurricanes, that team belongs in Hartford anyway.

  32. Chorske says:

    So you’re letting Laraque off the hook as a failed enforcer… because he had to do it all by himself? Wah wah. He sucked, that role-player one-dimensional enforcer thing was passe anyway.

    I actually find the comparison to O’Byrne insulting… to O’Byrne.

  33. Anonymous says:

    Quick Boone, we need a reverse jinx and fast, and you’re the only guy that can deliver.

  34. Chorske says:

    But he was NORTH AMERICAN!! With GRIT! Or sandpaper or jam or whatever the 12 year olds are calling it these days.

    It’s fun picking apart the HP nonsense, but don’t expect a cogent response.

  35. Chorske says:

    Grit! Grit! Size! Grit! Size!

    You think SHULTZ is ready for the big leagues? Cos anyone who knows anything says he’s probably three years away, minimum.

    But then, if your only criterion is GRIT! GRIT! SIZE! SIZE! GRITGRITSIZESIZEGRIT!, then yeah…. uh, no, it still doesn’t make any sense.

    We just beat BOS and we would absolutely DISMANTLE Anaheim. Anaheim is the most overrated team in the league. And how in Christ is Anaheim a gritty team?

    You’re so full of it that anyone who props your posts gets tainted by the stink.

  36. andrewberkshire says:

    No, a very good set of special teams adds to 100%, and an elite team adds to 110%. That’s Scotty Bowman’s opinion anyway.

  37. Matt_in_TO says:

    Great, now I’ve got coffee all over my computer, thanks!


    – In Price We Trust

  38. nightmare_49 says:


       from Canes Country:


    The Carolina Hurricanes are in Montreal to take on the Canadiens tonight at the Bell Center.   The Habs might be the perfect opponent for the Canes to face after their embarrassment at the hands of the Flyers on Thursday night.  Much like the success rate the Flyers enjoy over the Canes, the visitors seem to do very well while in Montreal.

    The Canes are 8-0-2 at the Bell Center in their last 10 meetings.   

    Carolina will be sticking with the same lineup as in previous games. 

    • Staal, Samsonov, LaRose
    • Ruutu, Cole, Skinner
    • Sutter, Dwyer, Tlusty
    • Matsumoto, Kostopoulos, Jokinen
    • Gleason, Corvo
    • Harrison, Babchuk
    • Pitkanen, McBain

    Cam Ward gets the nod in net.

  39. Wayne says:

    Cam has had our number since. I hope we finally bomb him with quality shots tonight and get the F Ward off our backs.

  40. HardHabits says:

    Because Bettman said 7 would’ve looked fishy.

  41. HardHabits says:

    Whatever you say Neanderthalhabsfan!

  42. Chuck says:

    You’re happy that O’Byrne would cross-check guys in the back of the head?


    Centre Hice: New Canadiens rating systems

  43. HAB-PROFESSOR says:

    what i liked about OBRYNE (and only the replays in slo-motion revealed this) is he would cross check a forward in the back of the head, he’d go into the corners facewashing and headlocking, he could take it. 

    anyway, its really a non-factor because he was never used this year….but it does speak to the composition management is favoring.

  44. Xtrahabsfan says:

    He was allso alone …no help ….very soft team! Even George Laraque knew he couldn’t take on a team like Philly by himself,hello!

  45. Ayan_SB says:

    How the hell did 4 Leafs get on the All-Star ballot?

  46. Ayan_SB says:

    Can you imagine if the PP starts rolling and their PK stays in the top 5 of the league?

    One of the most underappreciated people on this team is assistant coach Perry Pearn. He was the reason why the Rangers had the #1 PK in the league a few years ago, and he’s one of the reasons why the Habs are currently 3rd in that respect. Not to mention the addition of Jeff Halpern who’s doing a tremendous job on the penalty kill.

  47. avatar_58 says:


    WTF?? 11 years? God I’m sick of this nonsense. Power to the guy for being set for life, but we need contract limits.

  48. ProHabs says:

    What do you mean Gorges is not big enough. Not big enough for what. He has played great for about 2 years now and continues to get better. Give me 6 Gorges over 6 “big, tough” (ya right) O’Byrnes any day.

  49. ProHabs says:

    Don’t overestimate the lose of O’Byrne. I am sure if you asked any player around the league, O’Byrne didn’t strike any fear in anyone. He was not a frequent fighter, and when he did fight, it is not as though he packed a heavy punch. I would even say he was a weaker fighter than Mike Komisarek. O’Byrne was tall but he was a friendly giant.

  50. Bryan says:

    While adding up to 100 is definitely good, I’d rather see the PP at around 20% and the PK around 80-85% as opposed to what we have now.  We struggle to score goals – the D and Carey will bail us out in our zone.


    The Habs are making me slightly less bi-polar.

  51. Xtrahabsfan says:

    Ya in a cave  with many Stanley Cup victories dumb arse;)

  52. HAB-PROFESSOR says:

    I’ve been a big proponent of adding some ‘sandpaper’ to our lineup. There is no doubt that a lack of grit played a big part in our playoff exits over the last several years.  Having OBYRNE gone just brings us another notch down on the ‘gritty’ style.

    That said, you can’t help but be floored by our team.  There is one other element that can overide coming up against a gritty team, and that is owning the SPEED/POSSESSION game.  It takes alot of hard work for 60minutes but it will beat a gritty team (ie:philly/boston/chicago/ana)… as for a 7 game series? i still think thats a problem for us.

    1:The N.A.G. (North American Grit) Youth Movement will bring us respect. 2:The NHL-Ref-Syndicate will do everything in its power to never allow the HABS to win another Stanley Cup. 3. up WHITE/SHULTZ/PAX now.

  53. zozotheclown says:

    I think it was an average team would add up to 100, but a good team will add to 110. Makes sense since to me to have good special teams you should have around 90/20. Its still early though, plenty of time to get to that 110 mark if the PP starts clicking like last game.

  54. Ayan_SB says:

    So isn’t there a notion that if you’re combined PP and PK percentage adds up to about 100%, you must be doing a good job?

    Cause at the moment, the Habs PK is running at a 89.4% efficiency, while the PP is on a 10.7% deficiency. But hey, that adds up to 100.1%  lol.


  55. HardHabits says:

    Dude, he was our 8th depth defenseman. Picard is better. He was not going to get ice time. The Habs picked up a solid prospect for a player who wasn’t playing.

    You’re from a time when blogging was done with painting on cave walls.

  56. twilighthours says:

    Rick saw a different O’Byrne than I saw.  The kid isn’t a very good hockey player.  To paraphrase Red, the guy made the same mistakes over and over again, took the same penalties, and didn’t learn from any of it.

  57. Ayan_SB says:

    Neither are Alex Semin or Patrick Sharp (leading the Hawks in points). The NHL just wants the big names.

  58. Exit716 says:

    Takes one to know one, Mr. Walsh.


  59. nightmare_49 says:



      Ryan O’Byrne: A Take from my Lonely Island


       by Rick Stephens,


       And unlike the crop of centers-in-waiting, there is only one defenseman who can step in and play a similar role to O’Byrne, Jarred Tinordi. Yet, he is two to three years away from putting on a Canadiens jersey on a nightly basis. Let’s hope that there isn’t pressure to accelerate Tinordi’s development given the hole created in the organization by trading away O’Byrne.

       Let’s also be up front about the reason O’Byrne was not playing in the Habs line-up: Jacques Martin. The antiquated coach has different rules for different players. With O’Byrne, it was the shortest leash possible.

  60. Snair11 says:

    Tweeted from Alan Walsh’s twitter about an hour ago:

    “I nominate Martin McGuire as the asshole of the week for complete and total ignorance. Please retweet!”

    He’ll say anything

  61. Vid says:

    I’ve mostly been in favour of keeping OByrne.  I didn’t think he really got a fair chance this season or the last one but oh well, we’ll start to see his true level of talent after 20 or so games in Colorado.  He obviously wasn’t going to get any ice time here so probably best for him that he was traded out of MTL.  Still with Hamr and Gill’s contracts ending and Spatch with only one season left after his one (I see none of them being retained by the Habs) I wonder what Dmen the Habs will sign to fill the void.  Do the Habs have any good Dmen prospects who seem ready to step in next season or the season after?

    Markov Gorges

    Picard Subban

    ? ?

  62. 21BIGGionta says:

    yes i know im a little late but i’ve been out of it lately and i wanted to vent.

  63. 21BIGGionta says:

    i can’t believe Pleks and Price aren’t on the All Star ballot. RIDICULOUS

  64. Castor says:

    Use OPERA!

    It has a “Reload every 10 seconds” 

  65. Xtrahabsfan says:

    Dude ,he was our second largest player and a good ,tough D man  who belonged to a Defense core in the C.H. with no-one who is spectacular. Markov is our best,Gill is our best Defensive Dman,Gorge is solid but not big enough ,Picard good and soft,Subban will be Captain one day and skates,play-makes, shoots well and has edge and Hammer and Spatch are near the end and will slow down more and more as the season continues and not one of them could punch their way out of a wet paper bag…well haven’t seen young Subban get it on so ?And not one of them has a Howitzer from the point….I guess I ‘m from a different time when  the C.H. defense was the difference….

  66. habsfan1001 says:

    I wish Boone.s page when he is blogging about the games would  refresh itself

  67. Sith says:

    Hip hip, hypocrites!

  68. showey47 says:

    Actually he wasn’t out of position,he went behind the net with his guy umberger,who passed the puck over to filitov who passed it in front to vermette. The guy in front of the net for the avs didn’t take his man or the puck which went right by him. Obyrne led both teams in ice time last night,i watched the entire game. Six hits and four blocked shots,he was very solid last night. He is going to do very well in colorado.

  69. nick says:

    Gionta was out of position on the Chara goal. Last week a whole lotta goals got scored when Habs were out of position… I don’t see the point here. Goals get scored when people are out of position. If there in position… usually doesn’t happen.

    I’m sorry to kinda go off hehe, but I mean common…

  70. Chuck says:

    They should give him a break. He hasn’t appeared in and NHL game since the Carter administration.


    Centre Hice: New Canadiens rating systems

  71. ProHabs says:

    I can’t believe the number of people who are sad O’Byrne is gone. Especially the people who are describing him as the tough defenceman that the Habs need. O’Byrne was not tough at all. He was week on his skates and lost countless battles along the boards and in the corners. He was no tougher than any of the defenseman we have now on the team and that includes Spacek. For a guy that was 6ft5, he played like he was 5ft6.

    He was given his chance to be a regular on the Habs blueline and blew it. He had absolutely no hockey sense. When watching him, I would wonder if he was playing with a stick that was way to long because he would overskate the puck all the time or fumble with it. If he turns out to be a decent defenceman with Colorado then good for him. But he will never be more than a 3rd pairing defenceman or a depth guy.


  72. CHasman says:

    I think the stats tell the story a lot more than your little story.

  73. Blab says: Aaron Musick Colorado Avalanche Blogger.

    “Ryan O’Byrne gets his first Facepalm in his first game for his bad positioning leading to the Blue Jacket’s first goal.”
    I guess stats don’t tell the whole story.

  74. likehoy says:

    agreed…he throws body checks like he is a blanket tryign to wrap around a player

    – I support Carey Price as the Number 1 Goalie!

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