Class vs. no class

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Photo by Bryan Snyder/Reuters

Milan Lucic and Nathan Horton going after a 20-year-old Swedish defenceman and Dominic Moore with 40 seconds left  in a 5-2 game?
No class.
For the ensuing 5-on-3, Guy Boucher sending out Nate Thompson, Teddy Purcell, Adam Hall, Randy Jones and Mike Lundin?
Class.

Let’s hope the classier team wins this series.

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Topic for angry Comments on the Lord’s Day: Dominic Moore.

He helped set up linemate Sean Bergenheim for the goal that got Tampa Bay rolling after an early Boston surge in Game 1.

Moore played played 17:15, including 4:26 on the Bolts’ perfect penalty-kill, had three SoG and went 6-4 on faceoffs.

He’s plus-4 through the playoffs and is giving Guy Boucher as good a third line as the coach could wish for.

Was letting Moore get away last summer Pierre Gauthier’s worst off-season mistake?

Discuss.

Bear in mind, however, that Moore wanted a two-year deal and got $1.1 million per from Tampa Bay.

Forced to pinch pennies (thank you, Scott Gomez), Gauthier saved $500,000 by signing Jeff Halpern – a RH faceoff and PK specialist – to a one-year deal.

Moore is younger, faster and way better in the O-zone (18 goals this season), but Halpern was cheaper.

Gauthier is not the first GM to make a mistake on Moore. The Harvard grad was having a breakout season with the Leafs when Brian Burke traded him to Buffalo for a second-round pick in 2009.

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Guest Comment from HabinBurlington:

So Claude Julien continues to prove what a brilliant coach he is. Seguin looked sharp, so he pretty much benched him for the 2nd period. Then he basically blames the loss on not winning faceoffs. The Bruins mgmt collectively will try and rush Bergeron back, they don’t give a FFFFF that this guy coming back early will/could be eerily similar to Savard rushing back last playoffs. How did that work out long term you bunch of idiots. Bergeron is one of the few bruins I like, and if they bring him back game 2 (or any time this series) it will show there complete disregard for players.

And of course the bruins had to finish the game with their patented, well we suck at hockey tonight, so how about lets fight. Unbelievable some people don’t realize how thuggish this entire organization is. I don’t doubt they have lots of talent on that roster, but all is negated with their complete lack of respect.

As someone else posted last night, Did Horton’s contract in Boston require that he become an idiot now that he is in a Bruins jersey?

Good job TBay, keep taking it to them. We all know a 2 game lead means nothing (aargh… that hurt to type)

210 Comments

  1. kalevine says:

    concise and timely article. Boucher was interviewed on versus after the game and asked about putting on 3rd stringers for the power play. He said it was about showing respect. He also alluded to being proactive about his decisions in a game as much as possible, and changing things up to stay one step ahead of the opposition.

    While I certainly missed Doninic Moore’s clutch play this year, I think Boucher’s the one we really let get away. Sure Habs don’t have as much talent, but sure looks to me that Boucher would be the better man at bringing out the best in the talent they do have.

    As far as the Bruins, it’s clearly top down at this point, since it matters not who is behind the bench. And what do they have to show for the last 40 years of classlessness? Anybody but Boston this year, if there is any justice

  2. shuttle-lemaire-lafleur says:

    Funny how the Bruins never give the opposing team credit for beating them, it’s always some lame comment like…” I thought we gave them some easy goals and that was our doing more than theirs” said Julien. Never hear him say that they were beat by a better team on that particular night. What a bunch of sore heads, they can dish it out but they can’t take it…Lucic and Horton are prime examples, two immature thugs who, when the game is lost, they go head hunting with cheap shots on the opponent and the sad thing about it is that they get away with it. The league should really clamp down on these two punks and hit them where it hurts when they pull this crap after the whistle, unsportsmanlike penalties may smarten them up but, with those cement headed jerks, I don’t think it will, a good old fashion shit kicking would be much better in my opinion!! I hope Tampa hammers the shit outta them tonight in more ways than one and then sweep them out to pasture with 2 more wins in Tampa Bay. They are not worthy of a championship, that organization is a classless bunch of losers. They have been exposed for what they are, selfish thugs and goons who don’t deserve to win anything. I picked Tampa in 6, but I hope they sweep these ass holes right out of the playoffs. I would love to see Downie dummy Marchand, the little mouthy rat needs his trap shut for good ! Go Tampa..!!

  3. Marc10 says:

    Ah! Another Bruin headshot to go unpunished…

    I’ll give the Goons this much, they’re consistent. I wasn’t really fussed about watching this series, but I hope Habs South spank the f*^%$#s.

    Anyhow, St Louis v Chara is the worst match up possible for the big lug. He’s going to get owned so bad by Marty, it will drive him up the wall. After wiping the floor with Boston, TB can sit back and wait for SJ and the Nucks to slug it out for 7.

    “To be irreplaceable, you have to be different”.
    Andy Warhol

    Go PK Go!

  4. HabFarmer says:

    Hey LA: I think Teemu pretty much said he was retiring from international hockey after the Finns won the bronze at the last olympics.

  5. riviera1992 says:

    Lightnings fans are outraged after those Bruins players unsportman like conduct. Is it the way it’s gonna be for the Lightnings? Trying to deliberately hurt our players at the end of games should warrant suspensions. But it’s ok because the gamblers are loosing money? The refs tried everything in their power to give chances to Washington because they were favorites, now Boston? Are you serious NHL?

    Another guy just died most likely because of a concussion and it’s ok to sucker punch a defenceless player? REALLY?

    It’s time people come to grip with the fact that Guy Boucher is a genius and should undeniably be coach of the year, period.

    Guys please go here to voice your opinion:
    Should the NHL do anything about Bruins’ late-game message-sending?
    http://tinyurl.com/66g5pwc

  6. Keith says:

    No Live Blog tonight I take it?

  7. RetroMikey says:

    Aww luck on Boucher and the Tampa Bay Lightning this game.
    Bruins will come back, just as they have come back against us.

    “We will win the Cup one day only with ? in the nets “

  8. fofe84 says:

    “Milan Lucic and Nathan Horton going after a 20-year-old Swedish defenceman.” Does the fact that he’s Swedish really affect the classlessness of the infraction? Poor choice of words. This was a gutless play regardless of the victim’s nationality.

    Milan Lucic consistently shows the worst sportsmanship in hockey. He always looks for blood when his team gets spanked. The most dangerous thing to do in hockey is to dominate Boston. If they can’t compete on the ice, they just start assaulting people. They are a brutal, classless and thuggish organization with very immature players.

    The Bruins and Lakers should get together and split a box of Kleenex when this series is over.

  9. J.J. of Turku says:

    6-1!!!
    Thank you Sweden!

    http://media.turku.fi/kamera1.html

    • Duracell3 says:

      Crazy at the end there, great game though. Would have been nice to see Saku and Teemu there but that whole team played great in the final.

      • J.J. of Turku says:

        I’m amazed. In the beginning this team looked like a bunch of nobodies + Mikko Koivu. Most important thing is that Finland has won this tournament twice, both times vs Sweden!!!

        http://media.turku.fi/kamera1.html

      • LA Loyalist says:

        I think (guessing only) that Saku wanted his brother to have his turn in the spotlight and I think it’s a good sign for Anaheim that Teemu didn’t play – if he were really wanting to retire wouldn’t he want to go out with a medal at home?

        • Duracell3 says:

          After Vancouver teemu said he will never play for the international team again, so yeah, and I just assume saku is hurt 24/7 now anyways

  10. HabFarmer says:

    HH doesn’t sound like you’re cheering TOO much. No sense getting over optimistic I guess.

  11. Duracell3 says:

    Holy gong show. Probably work on pullin that goalie though

  12. HardHabits says:

    Elite forwards would be a nice thing to have on the Habs. Cammy and Gionta are not elite. They are top line forwards but not elite. Nor is Plekanec although he has it in him. Gomez?

    And that people is the core forward crew. The best the Habs have to offer.

    My guess is the Habs, if they can slowly build up a decent prospect pool and put themselves in a position to make some good trades in a few years, could very well have a few elite prospects in the minors for an eventual Cup run around 2020.

  13. Sean Bonjovi says:

    Why do I need to watch Finland v. Sweden on a choppy internet feed with play-by play in a foreign language?

  14. DrA says:

    If there is someone named karma, what is taking it so long to show up to take care of those Bruins?

  15. JasonM says:

    Oh man, let’s get into the whole Gomez killing our team ‘s off season options for signing key parts of the team. Is it worth the headache? We screwed for at least this next season with his contract. We can do NOTHING about Gomez, absolutely NOTHING. Discussing it only makes one’s long summer more bitter. It was a terrible trade with a 2nd line small center with a terrible contract.

    I’ve been following Tampa since the Habs lost their series. I LOVE what Guy Boucher has been doing with that team and I’m rooting for Tampa to win the cup.

    Moore is clutch, he was last year and has been again this year. Sadly, with terrible contracts given to Gomez, Spacek, Laraque (still in books) we were working with spare change. Halpern was a decent option however but I would have given it to Moore for seeing how CLUTCH he was in the playoffs.

    Let’s go Tampa. :)

    • SeriousFan09 says:

      Issue with Moore is he’s always looking for a big payday on July 1st, hence why he tends to bounce around so often despite his pretty good numbers as a 3rd-line player, teams don’t want to pay up, then he settles for less as the summer drags on.

      – I shall always remember Captain Koivu. Habs and Hockey.
      SF09 on Twitter

    • punkster says:

      Yabut…you, and I mean YOU, woulda kept Halak too.
      ;)

      ***Subbang Baby!!!***

    • deuce6 says:

      Actually, he can be demoted to the minors and his cap comes off the books..I’m pretty sure he would pass through waivers…He had a NTC not a NMC..BGL’s hit is only 500K…Hardly enough to whine about, and Spacek is still serviceable as a 6-7 guy with NHL experience at only 1 more year….

      The sky isn’t falling, you know…Relax…We have the entire summer to get this team upgraded..

      ——————

      Yes, I’m a Hab fan..Wanna fight about it?

      • HardHabits says:

        You mean the Habs have the whole summer to put together another middle of the pack team.

      • showey47 says:

        Problem with spacek is,nearly 4 million dollars is way too much to be paying for a 6th or 7th defenceman(I’d say 7th). I’d rather give the spot to a young player on an entry level contract. Perhaps its time for gauthier to tell spacek to either be willing to waive your NMC to either to go another team or europe(like the hawks did with huet) or you will be pretty much be a healthy scratch all year. It comes off as unfair but in the long run the team benefits by allowing us to either resign the wiz and/or allow a young defenceman like weber/emelin (if he signs) or whoever to earn a full time spot.

  16. Jdub1985 says:

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wetkgb54G7Y

    what the Habs shoulda done after PKs tying goal.

  17. HabinBurlington says:

    So Jagr in post game interview said maybe Pittsburgh, Montreal or NewYork if he was going to play NHL. Let the rumours officially flame up.
    http://www.tsn.ca/nhl/story/?id=365807

    Great Effort Boys, PG get to work this Summer!

    • Mike D says:

      Thanks for posting the news and link. It’s a long offseason so at least we have stuff like this to help carry us through, lol.

      Part of me wonders if his publicly mentioning those three teams was some sort of attemt to ignite a bidding war to increase his potential salary if he were to return.

      – Honestly yours

  18. nek25plus says:

    Where oh where is B’s fan today? Seems to be MIA…wonder why? Hmmmm

  19. HabFanSince72 says:

    Dear H I/O Commentariat

    You can’t accuse the Bruins of lacking class and then wish that we had an enforcer to take care of Lucic et al.

    And you can’t criticize Lucic for being the offspring of an escaped convict and an orangutan, and also wish (I’m looking at you Bugz) that we had him on our team. You either hate him for being a thug or you grudgingly admire him.

    The best you can do is hope that the B’s thuggery stems from a deep self-loathing that keeps them awake at night. Anything more is hypocrisy.

    • Mike D says:

      As a counterpoint, a player CAN be the enforcer/fighter type without being a goon or classless – there is a difference. Therefore it’s not hypocrisy to wish we had a tough guy to take care of other teams goons if they try taking liberties with our team.

      I don’t like to speak for other posters, but I think that the HIO commentariat who criticize Lucic’s antics then say they’d like him on our team, aren’t doing so with the hope that he would cheapshot unsuspecting opponents, be a sore loser, and play in a classless way. I think what they mean is they wish we had him (or a comparable player) who does what he does SANS the goonery…..IE, big, physical player who can put up 30 goals, power-forward type, who can hit effectively, fight and defend his teammates if need be, and serve as a deterrent for anybody who thinks about cheapshotting one of our smaller skilled guys.

      – Honestly yours

      • issie74 says:

        Yes…and they grow on trees!!!

        If you find one call P.G he is looking for one too.

        • Mike D says:

          Never said they were plentiful, issie so I’m not sure what you’re talking about with you reply or how it, in any way, relates to my post.

          I was just responding to what I felt were incorrect statements by HFS72: You CAN be a tough guy who plays with class and not be a goon. Those who criticize Lucic’s antics then say they want him on our team aren’t necessarily hypocrites as long as they differentiate his effectiveness as a player from his classless acts.

          – Honestly yours

      • HabFanSince72 says:

        So Lucic without Lucic’s personality?

    • Bugs says:

      Talkin out yer butt. Or have me confused with someone else.
      Never called the Looch an escaped convict or an orangutan or whatever else that demeans his contribution to the NHL.
      Only ever said he’d look good on our team.
      You know, Sincey, you shouldn’t ACCUSE someone of…how does that go again?

      Gone figuratively fishin filibusts L. B. Potter, esq.

  20. 1010 says:

    Couldn’t figure out why the laffs didn’t resign him and ditto for the Habs. Moore just doesn’t seem to get any respect. 1.1 million you say? What a deal for the Bolts.

    GO ABB.

  21. VancouverHab says:

    Scott Gomez: the gift to cheap-shots that keeps on giving.

    Sigh.

  22. 1010 says:

    Ahhhhh the Goons. Losing with their usual class. Such a garbage organization. And Julie arguing with the ref after his mindless twits throw a couple of sucker punches. He’s a perfect fit for those morons. Go anybody but bawstun. ABB.

    GO ABB.

  23. Jdub1985 says:

    Boucher plays to win
    JM plays not to lose.

    What would JM have done with a 3 – 1 lead?

    • SnowManHabs85 says:

      He would’ve patiently waited for the opposition to make a mistake and try some fancy passing. Then again, I’m no JM. Im hoping for San Jose to win the cup this season,

      Tampa is my bro fav team and he bashes the Habs more than Leafs and Bruins combine which certainly sucks since his team reached the ECF on their 1st playoff run in a long time.

      I would cheer for Vancouver because their a Canadian base team but my co-worker actually does the same bashing and continues on even since the elimination.

      I’m cheering for Marleau and Thorton because Thorton was traded bythe Bruins and it would be sweet if Thorton eliminated Boston in Cup final but I’m still cheering for Tampa to win the series which makes this final four somewhat complicated in my view. It sucks Habs lost in the 1st round after 2-0 lead in the series.

    • saskhabfan says:

      The bolts have been outshot in all games but 1 in their playoff run including by almost 100 shots in the pens series while missing both crosby and malkin. We both know what would have happened to the bolts if either crosby or malkin were playing,heaven forbid both. But yeah getting outshot and outchanced every game means your playing to win. Did you say the same thing last year when we got outshot badly most of the time in the playoffs. Or did you just give the credit to halak and say JM”S system sucks? At least we beat the pens with pretty much a full lineup. Something the bolts would not have done.

  24. habs001 says:

    white,pyatt,moen,eller,pouliot,gomez ,halpern,darche have some positive attributes but they provide no goal scoring in the playoffs…when you have 8 of your forwards score 2 goals in 7 games it is pretty good effort that you did go 7 games….i just dont see any of this 8 forwards increasing their goal scoring next year…

    • HabFanSince72 says:

      Eller and White will score more but you are right in general.

      The problem is compounded by JM’s “make no mistakes” approach to hockey.

      I’m willing to bet Sean Bergenheim and Teddy Purcell wouldn’t be scoring for the Habs either.

      • habs001 says:

        white could become a 8-10 goal scorer…i believe eller will get better like maxpac did but i am not sure his scoring will improve that much next year more like in 2012-2014 range…

      • DearyLeary says:

        I’ve been a big Boucher fan ever since I watched him in Hamilton. Everything you read about the guy combines everything I want out of a coach. The same attention to detail that our current corpse, er, coach, has; but in addition he’s got a real competitive fire, he coaches to other team’s weaknesses as well as to his team’s strengths, and he develops a bond with his players so that they really want to play for him.

        Julie got thoroughly outcoached last night. You can tell simply because it wasn’t Stamkos, St. Louis, or Vinny doing the damage, it was the whole team.

        I predict a big game from Vinny in game 2, so I wouldn’t expect the Lightning to let up in the series.

  25. Jocko says:

    Horton and Lucic are two peas in a pod, cheap shot artists. I would like to see every team in the league dress a goon next year and take these two to task every night. It would be sweet to see these guys taking a beating every night. As for Chara, go low and take him out at the knees, or hit him from behind like a Bruin would do. Maybe someone should pull a Reg Dunlop and put a bounty on these guys heads!

    I don’t want to see Maurice tonight, I want to see The Rocket!

  26. saskhabfan says:

    Does anybody really think boucher would have got the bluejackets into the playoffs? You know,the team that orginally hired him before turning them down after he was offered the job to take the tampa one. I doubt it also. Perhaps the best move would have been to leave boucher in the Q then nobody on this site would even know who he is.

    • HabFanSince72 says:

      1. Most of us knew who he was when he coached Drummondville.

      2. Force him to stay in the Q so we wouldn’t feel bad about losing him to Tampa? Sounds byzantine.

      3. How could anyone force him to stay there anyway?

      • saskhabfan says:

        Yeah,i’m sure you did since i never saw his name mentioned on this board till he was hired in hamilton. BTW,where did i say “force” when it came to keeping him in the Q? But since you want to put a spin on my post i will gladly return it to you. How could gauthier “force” boucher to stay in hamillton instead of seeking a nhl job. Also noticed you never touched the blue jackets part of my original post. Cause you know i’m right.

  27. danedmunds says:

    how about moore and halpern and no pouliot? would have sounded good to me

    go habs go

  28. ooder says:

    the bruins being classless, the sky is blue, water is wet… anyone surprised.
    as for the state of Russian hockey… oy vey!
    how on earth do they keep bringin back Kalinin… he is one of the worst D-men i have ever watched… also the whole team had no strategy.. the czechs and fins outclassed and outsmarted them in eery way.. it was so pathetic to watch
    sochi is going to be an embarassment if nothing changed.
    also Emelin is playing for the habs next year.. if he wouldn’t be then he wouldn’t have gotten injured… looked pretty nasty with his ankle twisting and frolik landing on it
    ——————
    Gomez: 36 and counting!

  29. Ian Cobb says:

    The Bolts will take this series in 5 or 6 games was my prediction last week. The only chance that Boston has, is if they can put a few Bolts in hospital. It’s the only way they know.

    The only way they got past us and Philly, was because of a ton of injured players.

    I hope they smoke Boston on the score sheet every game!!

    Tampa and Vancouver is going to be a fun series.!

  30. LL says:

    I’m enjoying watching Czech vs Russia much more than last night’s game, at least I get to see Pleks. What a goal!

  31. habs365 says:

    Bottom line our top six are no better than second liners and the bottom six couple of third liners the rest fourth liners that’s why we make it to the playoffs not the stanley cup. good defense, good goaltending, not enough offense, don’t have one game breaker, Tampa Bay has at least three that’s why they’re still playing and we’re not……

    • JayBee says:

      The only 1st liner on the team is Cammy…and Cammy is a guy who needs help to succeed. Pleks and Gionta are solid 2nd liners.

      Hopefully Pacioretty and Eller can develop into solid top line players. Leblanc too. Prospect pool is really thin though and we love trading our 2nd round picks. I think the only way we start getting top line talent is through the draft.

      Imagine 3 years ago if Bob traded some of the 11 guys who weren’t going to re-sign for picks.

      • Mark C says:

        Yes, imagine had Bob traded half the team during the centennial season while the team was on a 98 point pace.

        So Vinny is a “game breaker” but Pleks is just a “solid 2nd liner?” Ok.

        • JayBee says:

          Where they promptly got swept in the 1st round. Did you forget that he fired his coach, they were decimated with injuries and their top scorer was told to go home?

          The team was a complete mess. I think fans would have understood if Gainey blew the team up in April rather than July 1st.

          I wonder how far along this team would be. I doubt we’d have Gomez here.

          • Mike D says:

            “The team was a complete mess. I think fans would have understood if Gainey blew the team up in April rather than July 1st.”

            Really?!?! Are ya’ new? Every minor move this team makes is met with overwhelming response, both positive and negative, from fans and media. How you could make that statement is mind-blowing, and if you actually believe it, that is even more mind-blowing.

            – Honestly yours

    • _Habsoloutly_ says:

      “the bottom six couple of third liners the rest fourth liners”

      So basically you are saying our third and fourth lines consist of third and fourth liners. Very insightful. So I guess in your world we would have all four lines full of first line players huh? Cool stuff.

  32. Caper says:

    We now understand why Julien was fired by Gainey. Despite being a good coach, he has no class and it shows by his actions on the bench and through his players.

    • HabFanSince72 says:

      Claude Julien after the game in which Bergeron got injured: “maybe we need to rethink the game, and get away from finishing checks”.

      Claude Julien after the Chara on Pacioretty hit: “Nothing to see here folks.”

    • issie74 says:

      He was fired because he lost the room.Punch-ups between players the rookies went crazy,hence the departure of Thedodore and his gang.

  33. scrowe21 says:

    Does Plekanec have any points this game aside from the nice empty netter? Was Emelin helped off the ice or did he limp off himself? How bad did it look?

  34. J.J. of Turku says:

    Sorry,
    Just testing… Can’t see my posts again…

    http://media.turku.fi/kamera1.html

  35. HardHabits says:

    Here’s an interview with Guy Boucher after last night’s game worth reading.

  36. HabsFan2 says:

    Yay, Emelin just got hurt.

    sigh
    ———————————————-
    I have come home.” – Patrick Roy

    • Habs-royalty says:

      looks like he injured the left knee , bah last game of the season 19 minutes to play. Gauthier still there ?

      • HabsFan2 says:

        I think it’s the ankle.

        Or maybe I’m just trying to be optimistic.

        Le sigh
        ———————————————-
        I have come home.” – Patrick Roy

    • HabinBurlington says:

      The fact he got hurt proves PG had a verbal commitment to sign. It is our luck that players get hurt. Had he said no to PG verbally he would have been fine. Please note the sarcasm

      Great Effort Boys, PG get to work this Summer!

      • HabsFan2 says:

        Don’t forget the voodoo doll Harry Sinden created after 1993.

        ———————————————-
        I have come home.” – Patrick Roy

  37. Mikey_39 says:

    Hey! I’ll be moving to the US for school this coming fall, and was wondering if any Americans (or Canadians living in the states) have any suggestions on what I should do to catch all my habs games?

    • since1988 says:

      There are a few options available to you:

      Free:
      -listen live on CJAD Radio so no picture
      – stream on http://atdhe.ws/ not always the best quality
      – every Saturday game will be on CBC.ca streamed for free (good quality)

      Pay:
      – you can buy the NHL Centre Ice Package on NHL.com i actually did this last year for the end of the season because i didnt have cable and couldnt live without Habs hockey, its about $20 a month but HD quality and you shouldnt get any blackouts because you will be in the US (i lived in Canada so all games on CBC or TSN in my area were blacked out online which sucks when you dont have cable)

      “I savour it every day, sometimes before practice I’m skating around and I’ll look at the logo on my jersey – I’m playing for the Canadiens!”
      – Mathieu Darche

  38. Bugs says:

    Astros fan escape: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X7B4gic1-qU&feature=topvideos_sports

    Gone figuratively fishin filibusts L. B. Potter, esq.

    • Jan_pronounced_Yan says:

      Awesome!

      That stupid hill in centre-field finally found a purpose. Hopefully, he got away. I know it was tweeted that an “Astros person” said he was caught, but they could just be saying that to deter others from trying the same stunt in the future.

  39. Number31 says:

    Dominic Moore is a nice player and a nice guy but he’s not a 2-million dollar player. Guys like him are easily found for whatever your budget dictates and Halpern was quite effective for the right price thanks.

    It’s the same reason why the Leafs traded him. They didn’t want to pay him what he wanted even though he was one of their best players. (And on that team, it was more shocking they let him go considering what they had left).

    Moore is the perfect guy teams look for in rentals.

  40. RJ says:

    Hopefully everyone heard Boucher’s comments afetr the game about RESPECTING OUR OPPONENTS when he sat his stars on the 5 on 3. Compare this to chrome dome Julian and the Neely mindset. Send your thugs out at the end of the game to start crap. Sound familar, Habs fans??? No class, no discipline. Bunch of UGLY punks. The fans here in Boston don’t care if they lose as long as they punch somebody in the face. Read their comments on Twitter. Morons.

    “My face is my mask,” Gump Worsley

  41. habs365 says:

    It’s not all about the Moore move. it’s about improving your team in the front office and on the ice and that’s exactly what Tampa Bay did. when TB brought in Stevie”Y” and he went and aquired Boucher instant improvement. than they assembled a team to push for a stanley cup and everything is working out thus far and if it don’t happen this year they will make changes to improve on their weak areas for a chance next year. should Habs management do the same. we will be watching the Habs play in the 3rd round of the stanley cup playoffs next year…..

    • issie74 says:

      Yes! and he had to give his 10mil.dollar man (Vinny) assurance that he would be staying with the Lighting long term (mid-season) to get him going,he was having a terrible year up to that point. and rumors were circulating that he would be traded to the Habs. CBC Color Commentator Greg Millen.

  42. 123456 says:

    anyone have a pic or video of lucic actually hitting a guy who is looking at him? every time i see lucic enter a scrum after a whistle he is always hitting a guy from behind or the side. he is an embarassment.

  43. habsfan0 says:

    “Was letting Moore get away last summer Pierre Gauthier’s worst off-season mistake?”

    No,not tying the can to Martin’s ass and hiring Boucher as head coach was Gauthier’s worst gaffe.

    • The Cat says:

      Letting Moore, Halak and Lapierre go were big mistakes IMO You dont get rid of players who deliver in the big games, at the least you try and keep them. Thats my philosophy anyways.

      [Disclaimer]: I’m a hockey fan. I care about the habs, but probably not as much as you.

      • el heffe says:

        oh my GAWD! Halak? Really?

        nobody knows the pain of being a Habs fan in a world of Habs fans…

        • The Cat says:

          Yes really. The bottom line is the team went further with those guys. I know there were injuries but those guys then deserve credit for not being made out of glass etc

          [Disclaimer]: I’m a hockey fan. I care about the habs, but probably not as much as you.

          • el heffe says:

            Jaroslav Halak? Of the St-Louis Blues? Of the 4 Million per season
            Blues…I’m still confused.

            nobody knows the pain of being a Habs fan in a world of Habs fans…

          • HabsFan2 says:

            I guess Halak turned to glass upon arriving in St. Louis?!

            ———————————————-
            I have come home.” – Patrick Roy

          • The Cat says:

            The habs play with an anal commitment to defense with Price in nets, they didnt with Halak as much, thats why they scored more with him. Gauthier-Gainey are all about making Price look good. Because honestly they couldnt afford the risk of Price faltering this year. Just like Brodeur in NJ, everybody blocks lanes and the big goalie plays positional percentages. Not saying Brodeur sucked but he’ll go down in history as being better than Hasek, for example, and thats just wrong.

            [Disclaimer]: I’m a hockey fan. I care about the habs, but probably not as much as you.

          • LL says:

            As many shots as Halak blocked last year vs Caps, the team blocked almost as many.

            Of all the ridiculous anti-Price stuff I’ve read on this site, your post is Top 3. Congratulations!

          • Mark C says:

            I call BS Cat. Montreal averaged 2.6 goals per game this year and 31.7 shots per game. 2.56 goals per game last year and 28.6 shots. I might have bought this last season, but Montreal doesn’t play with an “anal commitment to defense with Price in nets”.

            Montreal allowed 31 shots a game and blocked 1272 this year. Last year those numbers were 32.1 and 1344.

          • The Cat says:

            So youre telling me Marc C that the habs didnt score more with Halak in nets last year? Break down your stats more with the games Halak was in and the games Price has been in with the habs of course (plus this years team was better), what Halak is doing in St.Louis now has no significance.

            [Disclaimer]: I’m a hockey fan. I care about the habs, but probably not as much as you.

          • Mark C says:

            Said I might have bought it last year, but the team has played better statistically (while having more injuries) this season. There is nothing to suggest that THIS year’s team has played a more defensively committed game with Price vs. Halak from last year.

          • saskhabfan says:

            We would have missed the playoffs by a mile with halak in net this year. His save percentage was even worse then carey’s was last year when he struggled. Perhaps it was because now he actually had to play a starters work load or maybe it was the pressure of the intense st.louis hockey market,LOL. BTW halak and lapierre both asked to be traded.

          • Caper says:

            Cat.

            Come on man!

            Gauthier and Ganey want Price to look good?

            Yeah ok. And Kennedy was killed by the CIA.

            The team played the same in front of Halak as they did this past season with Price. Price is a much beter goaltender. Not even debatable at this point.

      • Letting Moore go might have been a mistake, but maybe he wanted too much money?
        Halak to me doesn’t matter Price is a bigger big game player who steps up and performs. Price 2.275m per and Halak around 4m.
        Lapierre could be an effective player but i would rather have Eller at center then Lapierre in the long run, Eller more talent more potential. So those were not mistakes those were GM adjustments to further your franchise and make it successful.

        Habsnation is still standing.
        http://canadiensnation.wordpress.com/

    • Propwash says:

      In the real world, that would never happen.

  44. 24 Cups says:

    PITTSBURGH POST-GAZETTE: Dejan Kovacevic suggested it might be worthwhile for the Penguins to consider bringing back Jaromir Jagr, but Shelly Anderson reports a couple of sources with knowledge of Jagr’s status claim he’s spoken with several Russian teams, including SKA St. Petersburg, and isn’t seriously considering an NHL comeback.

  45. Tony McLean says:

    This “Smurfs barely making the playoffs” crap will go on for years. Anybody who thinks this GaineyGauthier crew is close is completely delusional. Rebuilding rebuilding rebuilding 19 years…

    Props to “Canadiens South.” Away les boys!

    • Bugs says:

      So go back to Toranna; what are you cryin to us for?

      Gone figuratively fishin filibusts L. B. Potter, esq.

    • JayBee says:

      The problem is Gauthier = Gainey and Gainey = Gauthier. We really do need a completely different philosophy….which is why I really wanted Yzerman when he was available.

      • habsfan0 says:

        Yzerman ne parle pas le francais. Therefore,in this market,he’s ineligible.

        • JayBee says:

          That`s my what I mean by new philosophy. I can understand requiring a bilingual coach…but why the GM. How often does Gauthier talk anyways. Once, twice a year. If it`s a big deal, you get Yzerman and give him an interpreter. In the meantime he can learn French.

          He could speak Cantonese, as long as he can build us a contender, I don`t care.

        • The Cat says:

          I think the GM can get away with not speaking french, its not like Gauthier is always talking to the media. The coach is enough.

          [Disclaimer]: I’m a hockey fan. I care about the habs, but probably not as much as you.

        • HabFanSince72 says:

          Nonsense. With the right approach you can sell anything.

          Besides Gauthier doesn’t speak either in reality.

          On the other hand Gauthier is doing a good job and that is the real reason the Molsons couldn’t fire him.

          • habsfan0 says:

            Boucher has been a winner at every level he’s coached at. And Stevie Y is a winner too. It’s quite conceivable that in their first year of leading the Lightning,they’ll guide their team to the Stanley Cup.

            Meanwhile..Gauthier & Martin..60 years of NHL experience between them..haven’t..won…a….single…….thing……..

            However, we can all delude ourselves into believing that these 2 will each have an epiphany next year…they will both see the light…and lead the Habs to the Stanley Cup…

            Right…

        • daveho29 says:

          I don’t understand why the coach and gm have to be French, if the Habs hired an English coach i’m sure he could learn to speak the language if he is reasonably intelligent.
          I’m not saying a French coach or gm are not right for the job just that they are limiting their talent pool by insisting that the coach be a francophone.
          Although I would have liked to see what Boucher would have done with this Habs team.

          I don’t think Toe Blake,Dick Irvin or Scotty Bowman were French and I think they won a stanley cup or 2.

          • issie74 says:

            That was then and this is now.The french press said “The Canadiens Have Taken A Step Backwards” when it was announced that Randy Cunneyworth had been hired to coach the Bulldogs.

    • HardHabits says:

      Rebuilding? That would imply movement up or down. It’s steady as she goes when you’re middle of the pack.

  46. JayBee says:

    The Moore thing is baffling… Sadly, he could have stepped in on the top 6 when the Habs were decimated with injuries and Gomez was struggling. I like Halpern but Moore is faster, more durable and more skilled. And the most disappointing thing is we gave up a 2nd for him. Just like we gave up a 2nd for Wiz (I doubt we even offer Wiz a contract)…the 2nd and 3rd for Schneider some years ago. Trading away all these important picks cuz HOLES were not filled in the offseason. Team has not addressed a heavy shot from the point for 4-5 years…only to scramble during the season and give up assets for a short term plug.

    I`m speaking from frustration here, but to use Pierre`s stupid roof analogy. The Habs have put off vacations for the last 5 years to patch holes in their roof. Just replace the entire roof instead of plugging some of the holes and hoping it doesn`t rain that much this season.

    Poor…poor…poor asset management. Trading away second round picks like they`re going out of style and having nothing to show for it.

    And what`s this thing with the way we handle pending free agents. Moore wanted to sign here, and I don`t even know if he was contacted. Wiz, same thing…I doubt he gets an offer. Koivu….same thing. We have no reason to be pompous or arrogant. No contract negotiation during the season. This team`s `rules`will be the end of us.

    Sometimes I feel like this team`s only goal is to just make the playoffs and that`s pretty much it.

    sorry for the rant.

  47. Bugs says:

    Delicious Kaberle article: http://www.boston.com/sports/hockey/bruins/articles/2011/05/15/kaberles_futility_sums_up_opener/?page=1
    It’s like…it’s like he was playin like a useless leaf or sumpin; it’s really weird.

    Gone figuratively fishin filibusts L. B. Potter, esq.

    • HabinBurlington says:

      Yah I would say the bloom is off the stinking rose in Boston with Kaberle. Really have to wonder how small of a contract he will have to settle for to stay in the NHL. Or if this guy may head back to Europe to play there next year. He got handled with kid gloves here in TO most of his career, not sure he has thick skin to deal with the criticisms he will be receiving in Boston. LOL!

      Great Effort Boys, PG get to work this Summer!

      • Bugs says:

        When everyone else on the team is as good as you are, nobody notices if you stink. That’s why Kaberle never wanted to be traded outta T.O.; seems obvious now.

        Gone figuratively fishin filibusts L. B. Potter, esq.

      • JayBee says:

        How is Kaberle being blamed for a PP that sucked before him.

        Kaberle is a soft, puck moving defenceman who rarely shoots. He`s a good passer and has good vision.

        Did the Bruins not scout him. He NEVER shoots. He`s weak defensively. Why are they surprised.

  48. 4m3y2j says:

    Gerrybell
    i think you have had your bell rung a few times,were you watching last seasons playoffs,Moore was huge and vert effective,(ie )the game winning goal in game 7 vs washington as an example.
    I really wanted him resigned and thought it was a mistake.In all fairness,Halpern did make us forget him in the first 3 months of the season but in the end Moore had the last laugh,
    PG-His decision making appears inconsistent 2 steps forward,1 step backwards1 step forward 2 steps backwards..
    There are going to be hits and misses in any organization,the key is to minimilize the mistakes.
    Watching Tampa execute what we could not makes me realize our shortcoming.Yes the scoring but also the lack of grit.I think Lapierre would have been beneficial in the boston series.For years the issue has been size with us and each season it goes without addressing ?
    I am not a fan of JM but I do think he got as much out of this group as he could.I am very concerned if he is right for the future mind you.
    Glad for Boucher,he is a modern thinking guy that is spot on for a game that is everchanging.How long are we going to continue to be the farm team for budding talent that people like Tampa,Jersey,Dallas take advantage of….

  49. habs-hampton says:

    Now, I know there’s a rule to prevent fighting in the last 5 minutes of a game and the aggressor will be suspended fora 1 game.
    But what happens here? 2 guys sucker opposing players with 30 seconds left and the only consequence is being sent to their room?
    Is there no supplemental discipline?
    Seriously, what is the appropriate ruling here?
    Disgusting…

    • JayBee says:

      As much as I hate the Bruins, lets not go overboard here. There should be no supplemental discipline. Bruins will learn the hard way that their antics won`t get them anywhere. Hope they get swept.

    • HabFanSince72 says:

      I think if the refs give an instigator there they know they will receive a nasty phone call from Colin Campbell the next day. And get no further playoff games.

      Bush league.

    • issie74 says:

      I think the rule has been retired.

      Probably something to do with Julien’s system.LOL

  50. Jonson says:

    One game everybody the series isnt over. Let go of this MOore BS. he had 5 points for us last year in the playoffs.Def not a bad hockey player but he has been very inconsistent over the years and seems to play when he needs a new contract. lets just cut the ties between montreal and tampa its getting ridiculous. we have a good team and they have a good team. let it go
    as for boston having no class…..i wish montreal had guys who would do what they do. its classless when the bruins do it but its exciting when the habs do it!! ill take horton and lucic any day of the week. Man its hockey its always been like this why are we complaining? only cause the canadiens dont have guys like that. the bruins will be back no doubt in my mind. at times they played really well! so im sure it will carry over.

  51. rogieshan says:

    Julien and his sore-losing thugs make me want to hurl.

    In hindsight, Gauthier could’ve offered Moore what he wanted and made up the difference by giving slightly less to Pouiliot, Auld and Picard. Bear in mind also, when Halpern got off to a hot start, Gauthier looked like a genius for the bargain signing.

  52. Old Bald Bird says:

    The Goons neither win or lose with class. Coach or players? I really don’t think they used to be this obnoxious.

    — formerly notbigbird –

  53. Keith says:

    Great headline Mr. Boone. I hope the Bolts smoke those cretinous bastards in 4 straight. Such a no-class organization.

  54. el heffe says:

    From what i saw last night Boston doesn’t have a snowball’s chance in hell! This makes me happy.

    nobody knows the pain of being a Habs fan in a world of Habs fans…

  55. G-Man says:

    Bolts 1, Brucking Fuins 0.
    All is well in the world.

  56. gerrybell says:

    PG worst move of last season was giving up a second round pick for moore to begin with.

    i dont care who well he is doing this year, he was not great last year. it seems like he just plays for himself. i have never seen a player who was more consistent at try to rush the puck the whole length of the ice to score. it actually worked once in the washington series as he scored a garbage goal to put the habs down 6-3 late in the game.

    was it a bad move to get rid of moore? nope. was it a bad move to give up a 2nd rounder for him? yup. i am just glad PG didnt sign the guy to an extension because who knows how much that would have been worth!

    g
    b

    • The Cat says:

      Worst post Ive seen in a while. Moore was huge for the habs in the big games. Period.

      [Disclaimer]: I’m a hockey fan. I care about the habs, but probably not as much as you.

      • el heffe says:

        Agreed! Which Moore was this guy watching. Roger? It’s hockey pal, press the source button on your remote control until you see TV then hit the button….

        nobody knows the pain of being a Habs fan in a world of Habs fans…

    • Mike Boone says:

      Wow! So totally wrong.

      Mike Boone
      Hockey Inside/Out blogger
      Gazette City columnist
      mboone@montrealgazette.com

    • HabsFanInTampa says:

      What are you talking about? Moore was consistent and hard-working for the Habs last season.

    • Clay says:

      Amazingly obtuse!

      __________________________
      The only interesting answers are those which destroy the questions. ~Susan Sontag

    • Sookieman says:

      I’ll go a step further and say had the Habs kept Moore they’d be playing the Bolts right now instead of the Broons. He has proven year after year to be a clutch playoff performer. Don’t you remember his hustle and tenacity in the Game 7 wins over Pit and Wash? Bergenheim can thank Moore for leading the playoffs in scoring, 90% of his goals were the result of Moore. The guy is the perfect 3rd liner and a bargain at 1.1 mil. Giving up a second rounder when he was a free agent til Christmas, well I agree with that, a waste. Could have had and kept him for free. As soon as they erroneously dumped O’Byrne the had the cap space. Poor management no doubt.

  57. WindsorHab-10 says:

    Claude Julien again blaming his team for Bolts win & not giving any credit to his opponent, same as he did when we played them. I just hope this time it blows up in his face and that of his classless team.
    One down, 3 to go.

    “Hate Bruins like a sickness”

  58. EricInStL says:

    So what if Boston punches a couple of TB players. It’s part of hockey always has always will be since Campbell is in charge.

    So no use discussing it’s a moot point.

    Julien will be fired at the end of the season unless he wins the Stanley Cup.

    As far as I know TB has Downie playing for them last time I checked he wasn’t a choir boy. So Guy can send him out and he’ll do his thing at some point when TB will get blown out. The only team that cannot do that is wait for it….Montreal.

    GO SHARKS…..

    • Lafrich says:

      Reading posts like yours makes me feel smarter. Thanks.

    • pat s says:

      EricInSTL—You know what, I know people are going to come at you for saying that, and they will get personal with you but at the end of the day its true what you are saying.

      Trust me, it kills me every game when I see our players get physically bullied and we can’t do anything about it. Its an embarrasssment what Chara did to pacorietty(my favorite hab player) and we didn’t even try to do anything.

      • HabinBurlington says:

        Pat S, I don’t think anyone on this site doesn’t wish we had more grit/size on our team. But barring having a huge goon on our squad (which we had, and it didn’t work) who was going to do what to Chara? I do hope this summer PG gets both our blueline (Emelin hopefully will help) and forwards some physical help. I just hope it is by way of getting decent skillset to go with the physical tools. Big wishlist I realize, but no doubt we can use some size. But I fail to see how having a guy punch Lecavalier in the face is somehow a sign of being a tough team.

        Great Effort Boys, PG get to work this Summer!

        • pat s says:

          Lecavilier is my most favorite player in the NHL so trust me its not that I like what happened to him, but it happens in hockey. All I’m saying is that people can say whatever they want about boston but at the end of the day they beat us. The 4 teams in the playoffs, have that element of blue collar players. I goal, 10 goals whatever, they won. For the past 3-4 years all I have been hearing by the habs and many hab fans is that its difficult to get a player that has toughness and skill. For me, these are all excuses–its not a prioity for montreal b/c it doesn’t fall under their philosophy of this european style of hockey they prefer.

          The sooner hab fans accept this the better. Maybe Gauthier will change this–I love the tinordi draft pick. If he can play in the NHL, he will bring that element back.

          • el heffe says:

            you don’t need the “most” in most favorite. It is implied by the word favorite! carry on.

            nobody knows the pain of being a Habs fan in a world of Habs fans…

          • Lafrich says:

            It’s “mostest” favorite…

    • issie74 says:

      J.M. frowns on fighting.

  59. New says:

    The tactic used by the Bruins works. Instead of talking about what they did right the Bolts will be half listening to Boucher, and half thinking about Lucic and Horton. The Bolts are pros. They won’t focus on retaliation but they will each think things like “If I can get Chara near the turnbuckle…” They will be distracted, not intimidated, just distracted. In a game of split second tips that is all it takes. Besides Lucic and Horton can take any payback and play better. Jerk move by a jerk coach, but it usually works out.

  60. JF says:

    It looks more and more as though Pierre Gauthier should have found a way to keep Dominic Moore. He’s one of those players who is capable of raising his game during the playoffs, and it puzzles me that he’s bounced around the league so much in the last few years.

    As for Guy Boucher, whose loss I think could not have been avoided in the circumstances, many are confident he’ll be back with the Habs, but it’s difficult to see how that could happen anytime soon. He has three more years on his contract with Tampa Bay; JM has two more here. Do we extend JM for one year, then try and grab Boucher? But why would the Lightning let him go as long as he’s having success? And he’ll have success there for quite a while with the group of players he has. And why would he even want to come here?

    What has impressed me most about the Lightning during these playoffs is the determination with which they go to the net, create havoc and pounce on loose pucks. Most of their goals are scored from in close. I’d like to see more of that from the Habs.

    • HabinBurlington says:

      I agree with you, Dominic Moore completely stabilized our 3rd line last year for the brief time he was here. It is puzzling why he bounced around, however, in Toronto I can’t help but think Burke didn’t want him around given the whole history between his past with Steve Moore/Bertuzzi. Which in no way justifies the move, but may explain it. (my opinion only, was innuendoed by the press in T.O. at the time also)

      Great Effort Boys, PG get to work this Summer!

  61. habstrinifan says:

    No Boone! PG’s worst mistake last year was not in letting Dominic Moore go. Many, GM’S have as you yourself said, misjudged his all around game. And also there was the cap hit issue.

    PG’S worst mistake last year. Letting Guy Boucher go! And he compounded that mistake by not returning Larry’s call.

    And, while Muller,is not as perfect a fit for a future long-tenure Habs coach as Boucher was, the mistake may be repeated to a lesser degree this year.

    In this day and age, if a veteran but hardly A-1 coach like Martin, could not have made a thorough analysis of what’s best for the organization and did not have the balls to allow Boucher in as an integral part of his coaching staff then it means the HABS will have at their rudder a coach bereft of will and ideas.

    Prepare the coaching carousel. If next season plays out and ends as this season did, it will be in full use soon.

    • el heffe says:

      you should write for HIO instead of these clods!

      nobody knows the pain of being a Habs fan in a world of Habs fans…

      • el heffe says:

        From what I’ve read of Diaz. I can’t see him playing in Hamilton as many assume but rather as a top five in our line up or at least groomed to be. Voted top player in the Swiss Elite League, said by many to be much better than Streit at the age of 24. I am excited to see him play.

        nobody knows the pain of being a Habs fan in a world of Habs fans…

    • HabinBurlington says:

      Habstrinifan, can you explain to me how if you were PG last year you would have walked into Geoff Molson’s office and said, okay we are going to Fire JM and continue to pay him along with the last coach we fired. We are going to hire Guy Boucher who has not coached in the NHL, but we really need to improve on that Conference Final finish last year. Thanks Geoff, appreciate you willing to spend lots of money on coaching but trust me on this one.

      Understand this, we did and PG did realize Guy Boucher was going to be an excellent coach, but how could you fire JM based on last years results (like him or not) and have 3 head coaches on the payroll this past year.

      I am not trying be a jerk, I live in Burlington, I went to quite a few Bulldog games with Boucher coaching, I saw how well the team played. I just dont know how a GM could sell his owner on doing what you suggest.

      Great Effort Boys, PG get to work this Summer!

      • habstrinifan says:

        Thank you for giving me the oportunity. My answer would be done in two stages.

        Meeting with Martin!
        Good morning coach. You and I have been together in many situations. We know the pressure and SECOND-GUESSING Of coaches and GM’S. What you gave this organization in this playoff was greater excitement and hope than anyone has in the past decade or two. THANK YOU! THANK YOU! But you also are aware of the legacies which we BOTH are being saddled with. Maybe this is an opportunity for us to think outside the box.

        Now we have this situation. I dont have to explain it to you. My proposal is that you be retained with FULL authority for the next two years (your call if sooner) and we bring in Boucher as your assistant and coach-in-training. I would have to sell both YOU and HIM on the long term BENEFIT of this move. And after you can come up and be either be my right hand man or who knows I may be ready to move aside. I am doing what I am asking you to do, put the organization first and be as open minded and realistic about the difficulties (playoff notwithstanding) of the season we just had.

        I think I can sell Boucher on the idea because right now he may not be as high on himself(confident) re the easiness of coaching after his disastruous 7th game elimination in the AHL playoffs. He will be open-minded to being elevated to the big club with you as a mentor.

        Good Morning Mr Molson!
        I come to you with the easiest and most surest of recommendations that I would probably be making in this job. I know that the move I am suggesting will add the greatest amount of excitement and promise for the Franchise that I can do now. We want to add Boucher to the coaching ranks, pay him excessively more than an assistant’s going-rate and publicly affirm him as the coach-in-waiting two years from now. The press conference will be called by JM and chaired by JM. JM’S on board and will will be rewarded as I have laid out.

        You sir have only one consideration. Money! But I am sure that you know that this is a NO-FAIL investment and you will get your return manyfold in playoff revenue, public goodwill, and general revenue increase from the excitement created by this move.

        Thank you sir! I knew you would be as EXCITED TOO. This will go down as brilliant ownership on your part and will probably have fans feeling so good over the next two years that beer sales will rise.
        You are setting a GREAT tone for the future. Thank You.

        Yes Sir… GO HABS GO… can be said with much much more gusto and confidence.

        That’s how I would have done it my fellow poster.

        There is a time in the affairs of man when……….. This was one of them.

        • el heffe says:

          Yzerman offered more. Simple. The Habs wanted Boucher. Yzerman wanted him more!

          nobody knows the pain of being a Habs fan in a world of Habs fans…

          • issie74 says:

            That’s why Boucher walk away from the offer the Blue Jackets(and Colombus thought they had a deal)to take the Lightning offer.
            Better offer.

        • HabinBurlington says:

          Well that would be one heck of a sell by PG. The way i saw it, I didn’t think Boucher had interest in being an Asst. Coach, that he felt he was ready to be a Head Coach in the NHL. He also wanted to pick the right spot to do so for his first job. It was my understanding Columbus offered him their Head Coach job and he turned it down. Tampa was a perfect spot for him, good roster, new owner, new GM, and little fan pressure. Again I will repeat, I really like Boucher and hope he one day coaches our Habs, I just wonder if even he would have wanted the pressure of head coaching the habs for his first kick at the can.

          Also, JM walked away from being a GM in Florida, I don’t think he took this coaching job in Mtl to be told who was going to be his asst. coaches. JM does frustrate me to no end at times, but just when I think he is screwing something up (PK early in year, Eller not playing much during year) then things turn around and work.

          End of day, I just think the way contracts were with JM etc… we didn’t have much chance of keeping him. Moore on the other hand, I can’t understand why we wouldn’t have given the guy 1.2-1.5 per year for 2 years. Halpern is a nice player, but not the speed or finish that Moore also provided for us.

          Great Effort Boys, PG get to work this Summer!

        • pat s says:

          Was it not gainey that hired boucher for hamilton and martin for the habs—just asking.

          It would have been difficult for gauthier to fire martin after gainey bails and quits on the habs. Don’t be fooled, Gainey still has major influence behind the scenes, thats why we still have a “play nice billy” hockey club

          See gainey strategy worked. He saw trouble ahead with all these UFAs so lets bail and fans will blame the next GM for my mistakes

    • nek25plus says:

      I agree, J.M has had his day. He is a coach of the past, not the future. Not retaining Boucher was a mistake. A big mistake. I don’t want to dump on J.M, but it is time for him to move into other roll. The NHL has become all about the young players, in this area J.M has never excelled. It is not the veteran league it used to be with a few rookies. It is a rookie league with a few veterans.

  62. HabinBurlington says:

    Mr. Boogard’s family has decided to donate his brain for research. Very thoughtful choice on there part. The blog below is a link to the story. In case anyone didn’t read Mr. Russo’s story on Derek, I suggest reading it, I had no idea Derek’s off ice personality was so different from his on ice persona.

    http://www.startribune.com/sports/blogs/121837839.html

    Great Effort Boys, PG get to work this Summer!

  63. 44har48 says:

    I so much want to get our good, big, young forwards up here soonest – I can’t wait for White, Max Pac, Avstin, Engqvist, Schultz get Yemelin and Gorges in the lineup. These goons will get what is coming to them eventually. Our smaller guys will then be nice compliments to the but kicking these bigger guys will unleash on goons like Boston. So want to see that smug Cam Neely and clown Julien’s faces then – Julien proably wont be around.

    Also, is anyone else excited about the puck movement and skating the habs will have on the back end now, presumably with Markov, Diaz, Yemelin, Weber, Suban, Gorges?? Next to goaltending the new NHL demands puck moving and good skating D’men…these guys are actually somewhat defensivley responsible too – and young, which means they only get better.

    Lastly, my apologies for hitting these boards with Habs stuff. I know this is not a habs site anymore and is more for “hockey” in general and/or the teams still alive.

    • HabinBurlington says:

      I would be surprised if we saw Diaz with the big club next year, but if we do it will be because he’s ready. We will have a much much quicker back end next year if all the signings we expect to occur indeed come to fruition. I just really hope Emelin is ready, we so need grit on this club. The bonus with him, is he skates well.

      Great Effort Boys, PG get to work this Summer!

  64. habstrinifan says:

    Yes! And what are the prospects for next year if we utilise the same dulling style.

  65. el heffe says:

    Yes, losing to Boston is the gonorrhea of sporting failures!

    nobody knows the pain of being a Habs fan in a world of Habs fans…

  66. habstrinifan says:

    I am beginning to think like you re the huge love-in and little realism that has infected many. I too thought we did WELL taking the Bruins to 7 games and then as the days passed, I really assessed the season. Came to the conclusion that it was a failure punctuated with patterns of ‘long’ losing streaks in many stretches of ‘big games’. The last losing streak in that pattern was the 3 losses of games 3/4/5 against Boston. Losses in which the team played exactly as they did during the season. Fear of failure and dependence on the goaltender.

    The only optimism to be gained from the 2010-2011 season was the emergence of Price/Subban/Eller /Max Pac as cornerstones for the future.


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