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Gotta love .500 hockey.
And what’s more entertainiong than 30 minutes of garbage time.
Punkster is many things. But he is not an assoholic.
I don’t think anyone is suggest he didn’t have a bad game and make some glaring mistakes, however why are the others allowed to? Why has Spacek not been benched? He’s been brutal lately. Gill had one of his worst last night, I saw 3 or 4 breakaways caused by his slow ass trying to pinch. (For that matter please stop shooting Gill, it takes you too long to snap back into position)
As long as Gomez isn’t benched or demoted why should anyone try harder? What’s the point? Sorry but that goal was NOT intentional. He said it himself, he was passing.
What a load of nonsense.
First of all, a vet and a newbie do not and should not get the same leeway from a coach. The lessons that need to be learned are too different. It’s coaching 101.
Second, Spacek almost was benched- and has since turned his game completely around, so why are you still carping? Gill has always been slow, so how is this news? He still manages to be effective by using his reach. And at least Gill’s shots are released quickly and generally make it past the defender standing immediately in front of him. SOmething certain other young budding superstars need to learn, I might add.
And who gives a flying fig if the goal was pretty? Gomez moved toward the net and passed it into the most dangerous spot on the ice- credit Darche for creating confusion there, but full credit to Gomez for putting the puck where it needs to be for good things to happen. Isn’t that what we’ve been shouting at him to do all year?
Reads more like he was saying “STFU, you guys don’t know better than JM so our opinions have no validity followed by some sarcastic comment about how we couldn’t possibly know better than him cause we’re not famous NHL coaches.. (which none of us are proclaiming we are). At least I wasn’t.
Basically the statement was that all our opinions are invalid cause we are not NHL coaches like JM. That’s how i read it. Inviting is us to complain, then telling us all we have nothing valid to contribute cause we’re not coaches, to me, seems kinda a$$holic. That is all.
Go Habs Go
You want to talk about why we lost in OT – personally I think bad pass or no, they played like garbage. What the hell was that constant spin – pass -spin -pass in our own end business? I don’t care how well Gomez, Cammy et al think they can pass, go up the damn ice and put it in the net. Playing around with it just causes a turnover, which it did – several times.
But hey, who am I to judge Martin’s 4-4 methods?
Yeah cause Byfuglien ruined his career while playing forward with chicago…What does Quennville know anyways, Wops is clearly a NHL calibre coach…
i don’t understand the PK scratch. I’m a little worried that this ongoing discussion about him being ‘cocky’ is actually getting to him.
subban’s still young so he can be benched..
too bad gomez and cammalleri have some “status” on the team as UFAs and big trades and being paid a bajillion dollars and can’t be benched otherwise I would have benched them way earlier.
- Gomez is holding down the suck button
You all know I love the kid, and have watched his game for 7 years. But he was on the ice for the last 3 goals against, and put himself out of position. He gave up the puck a lot more than normal.
He has a lot to learn and needs to have a little more patience with his own development. Yes sitting out is part of the learning curve.
I was just reading the Gazette update on the robbery which occured on the night of the funeral. According to the Gazette “The police are on the case. They had their forensic people go over the car”.
I feel for the family, I really do, it’s awful.
With that said, for all those who have had their cars broken into, stuff stolen, regardless of the items – has anyone been told that their bringing forensic specialists to look for prints, etc? Just wanted to see if I was the only one?
Quick to sit P.K , but Gomez gets a cart blanche? I know Gomez is a vet, but you can’t treat your young players like 2nd class citizens, bad move, but lets see what Weber can do…..
I’m not sure I agree that Subban should be accorded the same “status” wrt benchability as a veteran like Spacek. The message that needed to be sent is different: in Spacek’s case, it was simply “wake up, Summer’s over”– in Subban’s case, the message seems to be more serious: “get with the program and tighten things up”.
That his position is called defencemen. He got off with being benched when his mistakes against TB contributed to the loss to that team but this time JM wants to send a stronger message.
- I shall always remember Captain Koivu. Habs and Hockey.
In short: Don’t bench him. Coach him.
I completely disagree that the two concepts are mutually exclusive. Sometimes, the best thing a coach can do if a player isn’t on board or isn’t focused is bench him.
Did PK not go leg on leg with an Oiler player early in the game and seemed to take abit to skate it off. Just maybe something was not right this morning and he is getting a rest day instead of getting benched. He did not have one of his better games for sure and was on for too many give aways etc and he may be being punished for that but it is a possible rest since JM thinks playing Webber against the Devels might be a good spot to insert him.
I honestly don’t get scratching PK tonight. WTF kind of message does that send to the kid?
- In Price We Trust
Amen to everything except the last sentence!
“It must be love!”
[Clever headline, Mr. Boone.]
Please forgive me asking this quesion, but Scott Gomez scored the first goal and set up the second very well, and seemed to me to hustle all game.
Why today then rag on him and ask for his ice time to be reduced?
And, yes, I think this would be a great game to start Alex Auld.
Benching Subban is a mistake, win or loss. I’d much rather see him get the chance to bounce back. However I’m not so sure Martin won’t put him in the lineup at the last second, he did that wth Spacek earlier in the year.
I caught a game in Jersey back in the old Meadowlands days. It was pretty sketchy back in the day, too.
But the NJ fans were awesome, actually. Super friendly.
What is all this whining about self-confidence? Is PK really so fragile that he can’t be taught a lesson in responsibility? What silliness. He’s a pro. He knows he crapped the bed, he said as much in the post game comments. He’ll sit, he’ll stew, he’ll bounce back next game. Because you KNOW he ain’t sitting out for more than one. PK is too smart to not get this simple message.
And added bonus of this move: another talented DMan gets some playing time in, against a struggling opponent.
I agree with the folks who argue Auld should have played one of these two games.
Benching PK Subban? Good for the actual player but bad for my hockey pool… whatever. New Jersey or Nashville North are too boring to watch.
Couldn’t agree more. He’s a young guy and we all knew he was going to make mistakes this year. It’s a learning curve for any rookie in this league especially in a high pressure city like Montreal and all the hype Subban got before even playing. Benching him is just going to make him second-guess himself once he’s back in the lineup. I think your idea of less ice time to make him re-earn those minutes is the perfect solution to an off night like yesterday. I hope JM knows what he’s doing because I completely disagree with this move. The only positive is that PK doesn’t come off as a negative guy. He faced the media after a bad game, admitted he made some mistakes and is probably itching to prove himself again. I’d expect him to come back strong with his next few games, but I’m predicting we wont see any “Soobie-Doo’s” for a little while; he’s going to be too nervous to play his game. The biggest problem is that those finesse plays that drive a coach crazy is the way he plays an its the way he’s the most effective. Take the good and the bad because the good greatly outweighs the bad. I’ll gladly lose one point against Edmonton to have the PK that has been nothing less than stellar in every game this season.
I am terrified of tonight’s game…
… because I’m going to it. It’s going to be a LONG walk from the train station to the Prudential Center now that the city of Newark has laid off 14% of its police force.
/\\ikeGO HABS GO!
So you hated Carbo too? It didn’t seem to hurt Mark Streit’s career. Considering the only way Streit got into the lineup was playing forward, I bet he’s pretty happy now looking back that he was playing forward.
Where’s the bad record? Nathan Horton and Stephen Weiss seem to be doing just fine.
Chara, Hossa, and Havlat aren’t too bad either.
right on. they get leads by playing a certain way, but instead of continuing and maybe getting up 3 or 4 goals, they shut it down and hopefully win by hanging on. They don’t play the sit back on a lead style well at all, so they might as well keep up with the speed through the neutral zone and try to pad the lead
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“Whine, complain, cry all you want.”
Settin’ aside the topic at hand, reads like a fairly harmless and open-ended invitation to me.
Good point, Dave. It’s been like that for quite awhile now, even back to the Carbo days. When a team is ahed 3-1 it’s time to put the hammer down.
I have watched PKs game for 7 years. And he played a very poor game last night.
He was on the ice for the last 3 goals
against, and put himself out of position trying to do someone else’s job to often. He gave up the puck much
more than he has in a very long time, and his passes we not crisp tape to tape.
He has a lot to learn and needs to have a
little more patience with his own development. Yes, sitting him out is part
of the learning curve.
will learn much, sitting and watching tonight. He is mentally strong,
and will turn this into a positive part of his development.
is Martin’s way of giving the whole team a shake up as well. The way
they play with the lead in the past few games is dreadful.
a coach who brings a young Defenseman and makes him play foward, and on the wrong side on the PP.
Hey Dave, does Martin wear one of those things??
a coach who has a good record for developping young players too… ….
Soooo what you’re saying is that because we’re not all among the most experienced coaches in the NHL, we were not allowed to express our opinions on a fan site?
I don’t agree with the benching, I’ve said why. I never once said I’d be a more winning coach than JM. Take a step back there buddy.
She’s a Thunder Bay lass – they make them beautiful up here.
Well, the women are hot, but the place has a reputation for being a rich kid school. Take that how you will…
The team wins when the forecheck with 2 forwards in the O zone and they lose when the use the 1-4. I am sick of JM’s thinking they are going to win games by sitting on leads. The best defense is a good offense.
4 vs. 4 is all about puck possession. If you don’t like the look you start it back up and get another look. There’s too much space to make a mistake in the neutral zone or your own end, as was evidenced last night.
Who knows why PK is sitting? Only those in the room… and even then, maybe it’s just between the coach and PK. Maybe they felt Weber deserves a chance on D for a game (either for his development or to showcase him for a trade) and 2 games in two nights, coupled with a rough game for PK means that he sits. I think he’ll bounce back and it’ll be good for him in the long run. Either way, it’s just one game.
For those who keep talking about how some vets aren’t sitting and he is? Vets will get the benefit of the doubt and will be given a longer leash… and I think rightfully so. Also think sitting a vet is dangerous for the locker room environment. Vets should know what they need to do and if they struggle, and it should be a matter of time before they right the ship. PK is still young and being molded into an NHLer… He’s learning and this is just one of the lessons that he needs to go through. Same reason why you might take your 5 year old kid and give him a timeout in the corner but you wouldn’t do it to an adult… even if they deserve it more sometimes.
If Carbo is pulling the strings, who plays D? Pyatt? Lapierre? Cammy?
What would you be if you were attached to another object by an incline-plan wrapped helically around an axis?
Whine, complain, cry all you want. You’re not one of the most experienced NHL coaches in history. Of course, you know better. Of course you do.
That’s what I was thinking, but I wasn’t sure. Is that a positive or negative?
Poor nobody. These guys are getting paid hundreds of thousands, if not millions to play a game… Or sit on a bench. There are worse things in this world.
melanie auld is pretty but cobie smulders is hot imo
.::DON’T MESS WITH THE MOENATOR!::.
UWO = University of Western Ontario
So does Cammalleri get scratched next game if he doesn’t wake up?
Absolutely. Auld’s wife is a smoke show. Good for him.
I’m sure we agree that there is nothin’ wrong with that AT ALL.
Do you not see the difference between PK and those others you mention? Take a moment and think about it.
Too much, way too late. PK should’ve had his butt glued to the bench in the 3rd. Maybe Cammy too, but PK for sure. At least they’ll be playing Weber as a defenseman. Or will they? If Weber play as a forward I am going to conclude that Carbo is pulling JM’s strings.
And montreal shows again why it sucks at developping players.
Lets admit, Pk is directly responsible for the tying goal, what a stupid dive. For the GWG, it wasnt the best decision Pk made but the puck rolled off cammalleri stuck, more bad luck IMO.
But to bench him because of two plays. I do not agree. How can a player who played 25:00 (is TOI against edmonton) be benched for the next game. He played almost half the game!
Moreover, we all knew he was a player who made risky plays. And this what makes him effective and what makes him the most exciting player in Montreal by a mile. This move will only restrain him. blocking what brought him to the nhl. Do we want him to be a Josh Gorges or a Spacek who flips the puck on the boards every time?
This is the worst healthy scratch in the elague since the Kovalchuk scratch. Let the kid develop, let him make mistakes.
Habs vs Devils are already boring games… for sure sitting subban will make it exciting…
And what, if Weber scores tonight on the PP? You sit PK for the next games?
Stupid move. And I dont agree with, “Its one game”. Its one game without our third best player…
She looks like Cobie Smulders from How I Met Your Mother imo.
that’s what I was thinking, but in that case it sucks for Weber
Wrong, PK can sit and think about his dumb move that cost them the game. One game in what’s gonna be a long career is no big deal. Personally I think JM knows what he ‘s doing. Just be glad you don’t have Ron Wilson behind the bench.
All I’ve got to say is, well done Mr. Auld.
She does have UWO written all over her though.
If that’s the case… Poor Weber!!!
I wouldn’t second guess him as coach of the team. Single decisions can be mistakes, but overall it’s tough to say that Martin has been anything but a good coach.
Also love the limo reference. Desharnais only rides in style!
Hey a few games ago, it was said Spacek was supposed to sit. Game time comes around, and he played. It’s very possible that the same thing happens tonight… Not worth having a heart attack over nothing… Lets wait for the puck to drop.
I think PK could have learned a thing or two about last night’s game WITHOUT being benched for tonight’s. I don’t agree with this move by JM.
Cammalleri was (at least half) responsible for that OT goal. He wussed out on the play, big time. He was also (at least half) responsible for the tying goal.
Is there a spot in the pressbox for Cammalleri, too?
a future battle of the blades star or disney on ice….i hope i am wrong but this game looks to me a 4-1 loss…
but I agree, like any young player, Subban needs to be taught lessons
he wasn’t made perfect.
I agree PK was a goat last night. Out of many goats, he was the biggest. Still, benching him I think only hurts his confidence and will make him a little too trepidatious next time out. No, I think maybe reducing his ice time a tad and making hunger to get those minutes back is a better idea. Weber is not better than Subban 99 periods out of 100.
I agree, this is a big mistake. We need a W tonight in the worst way. After that “thing” I saw last night, this team should be feeling not so great. To follow last night’s collapse with an L against the second worst team in the league won’t help the collective psyche. No Subban is not going to help, especially against a team we have so much trouble with (Marty F. or not). Last night can’t be hung solely on PK. Using JM’s logic, 3/4 of the team should be in the pressbox tonight. Maybe this is one of those times when I’m convinced JM is being an idiot but it turns out he is a genius. It’s happened before. No doubt he is pissed. Trying to build a defensively-minded team, he finds himself up 3-1 with a W in the bag against the worst team in the league (give or take a point or two) who’s definition of defense is something the other team does to them. His team thinks “that looks like fun, let’s try that too”. They engage in a run-and-gunfest with a team with lots of speed and nothing to lose and the result is the clustermuck from last night. I’m pretty shocked by what I saw last night and I’m sure the team is pretty freaked out too. I just don’t think this is a wise move at all. I think it’s bad on many levels. I hope you’re right and this is a threat like the Spotcheck benching. Personally, I’m not ready to push the panic button yet, but I have unlocked the acrylic housing that covers it and armed the device.
Who, who… Gomez of course. Duh!
So that PK could learn a thing or six about reeling it in and NOT make ridiculous boneheaded plays that would get him benched in peewee
When you are ahead, you dont pull the move that PK attempted at the blue line. You just don’t. JM said it before, he said it again, and after last night his patience finally ran out. PK may think he’s too good for the simple plays in hockey but I bet you JM disagrees.
I love PK, great player, but sometimes he forgets he’s playing for the Montreal Canadiens instead of the Pk Subbans.
Is Martin asking the Habs to fire him???
Why else would he bench PK?
Or a limo ride, for that matter.
One thing for sure- if Weber doesn’t shine, there will be much second guessing of JM. Even more than usual, which is saying something.
Which kind of makes me feel bad for Weber.
Well, you’re certainly in good company! A lot of posters agree with you.
And I certainly agree with the approach you describe, showing tapes etc. Coach byrneNL is absolutely in agreement with coach Chorske on that. I guess my point is that JM has almost certainly been doing that. But I don’t know that he has, and you don’t know that he hasn’t! I guess to some extent I am also inclined to give the ol’ coach the benefit of the doubt?
I wonder how tough it could be for weber though, he’s best friends with PK…
If weber were to steal his best friend’s spot that is.
the team played last night…now spacek and hammer are expected to play major minutes. …who is going to carry the puck out of the zone…could be a long night…we may have to score 4 goals (may not sound much but for the moens,pyatts etc on this team that is a miracle)
Benching Gomez or Cammalleri sends a message to the team as a whole, because it removes a top-6 forward from the roster, but it doesn’t send the right message to PK.
PK needs to be a scratch so that he knows the feeling and does his best to avoid sitting in the press box again.
That’s not what I said either. I said Don’t Bench Him, Coach him.
The implication was never that both had to be mutually exclusive, but rather the former does not equate to the latter.
Benching is one weapon a coach has in his arsenal of coaching techniques. I don’t think it’s the most effective use here, in PK’s situation. I think you bench people who are consistently underperforming, or not showing an effort. Any number of Habs can be considered for that right now; one guy’s name rhymes with 7.4 million. (not that Im’ saying bench gomez, I’m just saying his performance this year is in line with the performance I would expect of a player who finds himself riding the pine)
You don’t bench (typically) someone who gives 100% every night, but has one bad night. Especially if he’s among your best d-man. I think you take PK aside, chew him out a bit, show him the tapes, tell him he’s got to be better and that we can’t have him being a liability out there with those risky plays. You cut his minutes back a bit, take him off the PP, make him hungry to get his play time back. On a back to back game like tonight, God knows they need his legs. 99 periods out of 100 he’s better than he was last night.
That said, I do agree with the park about getting PK back on board with the system. And I know a message has to be sent. Im’ just worried that message could be lost on PK as: If you screw up, you get benched.
(meaning when he comes back, he’s going to wind up being so cognicent of that, he’ll be more tentative and prone to making more mistakes). But who knows. All i know is coach byrneNL wouldn’t bench him tonight =) I’d give him a chance to redeem himself.
I think Gorges has had trouble coping with Gill lately, but maybe that’s just me.
I would be sending Weber back to Hamilton, personally. It’s not like he wouldn’t be a flight away from an emergency callup.
Hey Mike. I will be at the Brick City Bar and Grill before the game (directly across from the Pru Center) and at the game will be sitting in section 9 row 18. Let me know if you want to stop by for a drink before the game or talk shop in between periods. I will wear a Habs Jersey.
I can only speak for Ottawa. Had my car broken into twice and stolen once (different car, different apt. locations) What I came away with was the police wanted to do the absolute minimum they could get away with in order to avoid paperwork. Period. Anyone who thinks they do a forensic of the crime scene for “minor” offenses like car stealing/break in are seriously delusional. It’s a bureacracy like any other. My interactions with them had me coming away with a deep cynicism.
And yes, Some citizens have more rights than others. I’m sorry about Mrs. Burns’ unfortunate loss of her husband and despise the low lifes who added to her pain. But if her name was Mrs. Brown she’d be filing a report and wondering if she should make a claim and what effect it would have on her car insurance. not watching a team of cops pulling a CSI and using their full investigative powers to find the thief or thieves.
Who’s LeBron, and why do you care about the Cleveland Barons?
Note the new digs! but yeah I’m still on Twitter!
why am i excited to watch lebron’s return to cleveland?
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Didn’t it start already?
he asked gainey for a coaching job; gainey said that he has count martin instead
I hear olays!
Goalies in Montreal have two roles, netminder and scapegoat.
And that’s why Gio is a sniper. A good pass there results in a very good scoring chance.
Ole, ole in New Jersey? LOL!
An important announcement from the Government of Canada:
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Jm has patience with gomez and darche
Olé, Olé, Olé, Olé….Olé, Olé!
……..Or was that Oye vey?
“Hey Richard, two minutes for looking so good!”
Eller has got to get stronger along the boards.
How about one more goal this game for Cammalleri?
______________________________________ Long live Captain Gionta.
You know whats awesome? I have to laugh at myself – “call me when the team is winning 5-0″……whoops! LOL!
HH for chrissakes!!!!!
F……why did I open my mouth
Martin is a fool but he’s not a damned idiot
? Your obnoxiousness is lapsing into incoherence.
I was listening to the 2nd in my car. Jeezus what a mess that NJ team
is, it’s like they don’t even give a crap anymore, just going through
But hey, they have Kovalchuk, he’ll save ‘em….
Unbelievably great work keepin’ the play to the perimeter on the 5-on-3. Never get tired of Gill’s carpet stylins when the Habs are down 2 men.
Convincin’ recovery from last night, although can’t say much for NJ’s goaltendin’. That’s a big hole Lou – assumin’ he sticks around – is gonna have to address.
My sympathies to all patrons at the Cage Aux Sports, tonight.
Yup, the Cage’s wings absolutely suck, I miss Rudy’s.
I really like the Temps D’Arret segments on RDS. I don’t always agree with the analysis, but it is ALWAYS interesting.
Plus, my baby laughs with happiness when he sees Carbo! It’s kind of weird. Carbo totally makes his day.
Pleks 5-8 in the faceoff circle…If not mistaken, he’s been struggling there as of late.
It’s safe to say the REAL PK showed up tonight.
The wing sauce at Le Skratch is fantastic.
Boone: why did you write the Habs are so in jeopardy?
What’s the finger food at Chez Paree like?
I hope larry robinson leaves after tonight…mayb they can can the count and hire him halfway through the season so they can win the cup like the pens did
I want Subban!! He played a crap five minutes yesterday night, Cost us the game but c’mon. Seems like the locker room is not as pleasant as we are led to believe.
Obvious comparison between Webber and PK:
Webber doesn’t take 60 seconds to wind up from the point and he hits the net! Often in spots where rebounds are generated.
In his own zone………… Webber is nowhere near as physical.
On a different subject is it possible that NJ fans( all 6 of them) are screaming nearly as loud over Kovalchuk’s yearly stipend vs. the hue and cry here over Gomez?
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I’ll take Potent Potables for $500 Boone
don’t you know? the youth cant make mistakes in montreal but the vets can
Pleks tends to only excel in the faceoffs circle every 3rd game or so, it’s just not a good part of his game.
Benching PK works on a lot of levels. It’s a good learning experience for Subban – and it teaches the team that nobody is guaranteed a safe slot night in and night out. What a difference when we look back at the favoured treatment of LaSlowesse, which didn’t help that player at all.
The good news is that it is now down to 2 minutes to refresh a page at HIO….
He reportedly no longer wanted to be head coach for the Devils for health reasons. You really think he’d want to coach in Montreal?!
Very good chance he’ll take over interim in NJ, though.
Oh, come on, get outta the zone!
If the Devils score , do you pull Price?
He has played a lot so why not let Auld finish it up?
Weber needs to watch it, those were two bad passes.
too true. It just seems harsh to scratch after one tough period which leads me to believe that there might be more to it. Weird. It seems like now that Eller is coming along JM is setting his sights on P.K
I’m surprised they didn’t give Gill a penalty there.
Give credit to Gill for getting back to bother him without taking a penalty.
Weber picking up good marks tonight.
Okay. 2-0 lead. We don’t need the D-men jumping up all the time.
Pardon me, but I just witnessed like 5 glaring defensive mistakes leading to near goals…..but Subban wasn’t the cause of them! Mercy me!
wow nice play by weber on that 2..3(?) on 1
I hope we are not observing the real reasons why Calgary let Cammalleri walk with scarcely a raised eyebrow.
Except Koivu is from Finland, and Eller is Danish
Price is so good on second chances.
Calgary played him with stonehands like Moen too?
If Habs get the next goal they win. If the Devils score next they win. Let’s see if the team gets complacent with another 2 goal lead again.
nope, he’s only responsible for the ones last night. The benching is really more to settle him down a bit and realize the defensive responsibilities he has been forgetting lately. It’s not that he is playing terrible hockey. I think it’ll do him some good to reflect a little. We still need him to have the flare, but he just has to learn when to pick his spots, which he has been doing a better job of until lately.
man if cammy is getting peeved i dont blame him…
a guy like him shouldnt be playing with gomez and moen.
no disprespect to moen.. he does his best with whats asked for him.
plenty of disrepsect to gomez though… not impressed with him at all
88 is the new 23
I’ve seen this movie…
WTF! Skate FFS!!!
Oh look, a few more! But surely that wasn’t Spacek and Hamr out there! Vets know better!
the whole Gomez line has been pretty terrible so far
Price seems to have shaken off last night’s loss.
Weber’s playing well, but I still miss PK…
Actually they really wanted him back, but they wanted Bouwmeester more.
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Just tonight, or all season?
I agree, but Cammalleri is a pro and he needs to shake off the attitude.
holy crap is carey standing on his lid, and who would have guessed that eller/darche/pouliot would be so good. Also answer me this why is moen on the second line?
How’s that workin’ for ya? /DoctorPhil
The major difference between Koivu and Eller is Eller is Hab and Koivu isn’t. But apart from that Eller is younger, taller, better….
PK hasn’t been the same since the Flyers game when Richards called him out. He needs to play his game and not worry abt what his detractors say. If hes pissing off Richards and Cherry then hes being effective.
Wouldn’t it be epic if Heatley got a hattrick? I agree he’s a douche but seeing Ottawa suffer is more fun
Pleks and Eller…sweet Jeebus I love those guys!
But they’re both blond and really smart players.
Really happy to see Weber playing responsible D!
So does Pricey
definitely.. but sometime u can’t help it, when u bust yor a$$ and your partners don’t do squat
88 is the new 23
when i read stonehands i was sure u meant gomez lol
Big problem with the Gomez line: No one wants to forecheck. There’s Moen, sure, but its either Gomez or Cammy bringing it into the zone and they never dump it in down low.
Weber might not have the dangle that PK does, but he makes smart, simple plays. Which is probably exactly what Martin wants PK to see.
i like Weber so far tonight
Eller is like a bigger, better Saku.
Pricey with a brain fart.
I’m surprise you could stay awake this long..your comment was sent at 22:21
having a little fun..I can’t take these things serious
ok so i would like to see more of Weber and i am such management aswell PK will surely be back in the lineup next game if both play who do you sit ?
personnaly i sit Gill am assuming most will say Picard but i think he’s been really solid and deserves to stay in.
21273 in Montreal.
Sigh. Mac Pac is not a saviour, and his replacement of Gomez would not be an improvement to the team. Let Max Pac earn his AHL wings first, and call him up if we lose someone from our 3rd or 4th line… We don’t call up minor league players for the purpose of sitting healthy 7.4 mil per vets! And besides, Mac Pac is still kinda of in the organization’s dog house a little, for squawking about how much the current coach sucks compared to the last coach, etc. Don’t look for him to see any NHL action just yet.
If anything, I expect a big game out of Gomez and Gionta tonight vs their old team.
365 ignore them, they are hoping JM puts georges n weber centered by gomez
LOL great response…something you would say
how would you like s.crosby on the Habs..he has the same amount of goals as pleks-ak46-lapierre total…amazing..oh by the way expect to see jm put webber in the pressbox saturday..he only had 1 point tonight..if he should change his mind..maybe, just maybe..PK and Webber would make a good defense pairing..the devils felt bad for jm tonight..they didn’t want to see him look bad for sitting PK..however the team did play good and deserved to win..all the best PK there’s a lot of teams wished they had ya..when you return don’t make any more mistakes..jm only allows certain players do that..and you’re not one……
be careful dont slam JM; he always makes the right move according to some around here
and can do no right, according to others
Antho you know what goes on..you’re not stupid
Your post might hold more weight if you knew how to spell WEBER.
There may be other teams, but only ONE Club De Hockey…
you must be referring to 85% of the fans..the best fans in hockey..and they know their hockey unlike most other teams..8000 fans show up to support them, compared to 19000 in montreal.
there’s always two sides…blogging wouldnt be fun if there wasn’t….JM is all done he has no clue
Just got back from the Prudential Center. What a game for the boys tonight. Habs jerseys everywhere, on the ice and in the stands.
Eller played his best game of the season. I really liked what I saw from Eller, Pouliot and Darche. They were all over the Devils.
Weber played a surprisingly strong game. He did not look like a defensive liability, led the team with 6 SOG and got an assist when Gomer scored on the rebound from his shot. Like to see him stay for a few games and sit Picard.
Gomer looked more involved but some of his passes and play decisions were questionable. Cammy looked frustrated but I think his problem is that Moen does not belong on this line, proven again tonight.
Price was solid as usual but was only tested a couple of times. The goal on him was a missed defensive assignment where he had no chance.
AK46 was a little invisible but the Plecs line overall looked dangerous.
The the movement on the first PP was great. The PK was sensational – that 5 on 3 kill for 2 min was unreal – Devils were booed off the ice.
As for Kovalchuk, what happened to this guy. He was not skating, missed the net on 2 good shots, and got a third weak shot off. I did not see many of those speedy rushes he use to make in Atlanta. He does not fit on this Devils team.
Okay, where’s HardHabits?
Really wanted a SHUTOUT for Pricey
No chance on that one Carey.
Rats, its okay folk we know who to blame….HH! ;0)
I only did it to deflect the rage that would’ve been levied against Gomez for missing his assignment.
This team needs to stop abandoning their zone coverage when they have a lead in the third period. How many spoiled shutouts is that so far this season?
3 if we count that damned blown call game
there would be a lot more spoiled wins if carey wasnt in the net…price is their D
Someone missed his man, too bad for Price, he’s gotta keep up with Thomas in the SO category.
Not someone but the 7.3 million dollar man who went for a skate instead of zone coverage!!
pfft Hamr n Spak, not a surprise
are u serious?
gomez doesn’t score on 2 beautiful oppurtunities and then blows his d-coverage and devils score
The Gomez bashing just doesn’t get old, does it?
No, wait, yes, it does.
I’ve never seen 22 such ecstatic fans after a goal…
Damn you all with your talks of shut outs. It’s HHs fault lol
Oh well, if it was going to be someone to break the shutout, I’m glad it was Arnott.
That was my fault.
Too bad for Price
No shame on the Jersey goal – it was a beautiful pass and a quick shot – and we still have a 5-1 lead in their building.
With the way Carey is playing he will have more opportunities to get shutouts.
Thanks be to all of those who spake the words “shuout”.
besides the fact that tim thomas gave up a goal almost half an hoiur ago…
LOLLLL Good on you, owning up!
Boone typed SO. HH typed SHUTOUT, one types shutout, one throws bad juju on us.
Who is Joel Bouchard….and why should I care?
Must Joel gesticulate so much? I am waiting for him to frappe someone upside the head….
Just wondering what is the average age of the Commentariat these days?? Seems many old regulars have left and those that havent, the majority seem cheer for the “youth”, diss the Vets, JM, and PG.All which leads me to believe the average age is in the low to mid 20’s?? ……No biggie, just curious.
Momesso on CJAD with a total 180 on PK….Now thinks there’s a chance Weber will stay in..
Their off to a slow start but the Sharks are NOT the Devils, so I suspect P.K. Will be back Saturday.
Who said Tampa would be a great team this year?
should be my sig, well said
What do you guys think of a Subban-Weber pairing on Saturday?
Seriously, the NJ franchise needs to go. Eliminate it or move it. Do something cuz their attendance is embarrassing and a clear indication that hockey is dead in Jersey!!!
It was a typo. I meant to say SHOUTOUT to all my homies in the swamp!!!
On the PP sure, but I wouldn’t want them in my own end against Marleau-Thornton-Heatley
Not a chance.
I guess that’s why Gomez would rather pass than shoot.
Ahhhh Gomez! Bag that! Good thing we dont need it ;P
JM’s gonna bench Weber?
Gomer, how could you miss that?
Gomez if f*cking useless. Should have had a hat trick tonight, and cost Price his shutout. DOUCHEBAG.
on a platter my mom would have burried that
for $8m/yr, Chorske could have buried that one
There are plenty of other teams that need to go other than NJD.
How did he miss that?
Ok, c’mon. Gomez missing that goal is just indifference on ice….
its ok, he’ll play saturday
gomez just misses a wide empty net…
now this game is 5-1 so it doesnt matter.. but he does this in 1 goal games as well.
man.. ok the gomez bashing is getting old.. but comoooooooon…
who can say that he is playing well.. i mean honestly.. eller and pleks are playing way better then him.
Gomez acts like he doesn’t care, like every goal doesn’t count, hey gomez you need everything you can get, douche
“It’s not an obsession, It’s a way of life..”
So could my MOM!
Come on, you can do better.
A man who could fall out of a boat, and still not hit water.
you’re right – you’re mom could do it for MUCH less than $8m/yr
I agree, but NJ can’t be excluded from that list.
Heck, She’d do it for free.
Eight million IS a lot of money to play a game, I’ll give you that.
Don’t mind Antho, he’s something of a troll.
BUT I do give points for the great avatar!
xD…I am really that bitter =O
but who wants to watch a bunch of tall gangster black guys travel, double dribble and jump two inches to dunk
Weber looked surprisingly good in his own end, especially on the 3 on 1. Montreal needs to have a training session with Datsyuk, if anyone of them could deke it’d be nice. Plekanec for example, last night he had a breakaway and a wiiiiide open net if he had of went to the backhand instead of always just shooting. He gets so many short handed rushes each game too..it would really pay off if he would just try it sometimes.
Ah that’s better!
They Call Me Shane
Don’t say that! As a hockey card collector a puck mark is the cure for what ails a boring white jersey piece!
Go Habs Go!
Price’s jersey still has the mark from the puck that nearly hit him in the throat a few games ago. You’d think they’d either clean it, or give him a new jersey.
he’s a goalie there weird about there gear am sure if he wanted another he would have it
Or force him to wear the throat protector…
The only interesting answers are those which destroy the questions. ~Susan Sontag
Kind of scary isn’t it? Deja vu? Come on guys, get it together.
Really guy? Really?
If NJ scores blame me not JM. Don’t give the Devils any credit. It’s all HH’s fault.
If they score, it will be JM’s fault because pylon gill will be on the ice
did u see that whole play?
what i said is true…
Sure, he blew that coverage. Spacek could also have been more active in terms of his positioning. But otherwise, he is having a decent game, doing (mostly) the right things, generating good scoring chances.
I’m glad the period ended when it did. I thought for sure the Devils were gonna score.
they’re weird about their gear
it’s a wonder some of you spell you passwords correctly
THATS A GOAL.
Good goal. No question.
That looks like a goal.
No question. That’s a goal. Good job Pyatt. Good things happen when you go to the net.
A clear-cut goal for sure!
Pyatt will buy it. And then we riot!
lol the jeopardy music while they rewiew i love it
Tommy Pyatt with his first.
Over/Under on the number of idiotic comments blaming Gomez that get posted tonight if the Habs lose this game. Forget if they lose.
Over/Under on the number of idiotic comments blaming Gomez tonight.
Definitely a goal.
What the heck were the refs THINKING blowing that play dead? Even if they didn’t see the goal the puck was plainly loose behind the keeper…
Oh, and Weber. Keep looking decent i’d love for you to become a regular insert against less physical teams.
Run up the score. Get 4!!!!
Mair won’t let Pouliot up, so Pouliot knocks Mair down. From his KNEES. That can’t feel to good for Mair, he’s suposed to be tough.
Betcha Gorges sits a couple of games soon, especially since Weber’s been so solid.
When was the last time we gave up a 3 goal lead?
Sergio Mommesso is hilarious sometimes.
anyone notice how on the subway commercial with the monkey, when he plays the spoons, he is still holding the card with 2 hands? lol i didnt notice the first few times
someone should take this dog out back with a shotgun…any volunteers?
What happened to Gorges?
Don’t ask me HH. I’ve promised to stay out of these G discussions for a month. However, idiotic comments in general are de rigueur around here. I should know
Kovalchuk is even quieter than Gomez… and that’s saying a lot!
Yeah, I noticed Gorges isn’t as fast as he usually is.
Anyone think Lou would like to trade Kovalchuk to Atlanta for Ladd, Byflugien and company?
LMAO, even Gomez can score against the Devils.
Hey, does anyone know where I can stream the game tonight from a good server? I’ve been getting lag when trying the usual suspects.
Gomez on the PP and Weber with the helper
GOMER……………. 4 points in 5 games…. Making his comeback
That was a late goal yell on RDS lol!
Gomer earns some of his HUGE contract lol! couldn’t resist.
hammer held the line like a champ twice on that one
“We want Marty!”.,,,,”We want Marty!”
How about when trailing by 4?
They brought their f____ing toys with them!
Oh come on, you have to give him that
Watch out – It’s Turkish.
3 in 5… SORRY……..OK GOMEZ YOU NEED TO GET ANOTHER POINT FOR ME TONIGHT.
Man, that one is lagging hard for me? Is anyone else having issues with it or is it something with my comp?
this beautiful but why could’nt they do this last night, as I am from the edmonton area every 15 min they played penner scoring rather annoying
Cammalleri was just as much at fault as Subban was. It was a team loss as far as I’m concerned. I didn’t see most of the game tonight, but it looks to me like Gomez and Eller are coming on at the same time, and hopefully that can help the team get more consistent.
How did Weber look?
A bunch of Sens fans just went down and tossed their old Heatley jerseys on the ice.
Another player injured at the end of a blowout- hopefully Gill is OK
Michael Ryder having his annual multi-point game tonight. 7-1 Boston over Tampa Bay.
Guy Boucher going to get the AX in Tampa…
how is gomez minus 1 with a goal?
I’m missing PK and Carey’s triple low-five
Eller gets first star!
No high-five from PK. I miss that. Next game hopefully.
Eller now has 4 points in last 5 games.
If our losses are ot losses then our percentage would be .750. We would have 3 out of 4 points. That is better than 500.
You can tell Carey Price is well liked by his teamates. They always show him a lot of love after the game.
Power Play goal.
His goal was on the power play
Gomez bashing. Every year there has to be a goat, someone for you guys to crap on. Looks like you cats have found your man.
***MAN CRUSH ACTIVATED!***
LOL do you know what kinda player you could sign for that money?
Agree- except that he stayed on the bench at the final buzzer, went straight to the room. But he didn’t look like he was in pain, which is good.
What happened to Gill? I missed it.
True.. but irrelevant to the general point regarding perennial player-bashing.
LOL ILYA KOVALCHUK…………..
LOL what a coincidence another overpaid pylon
Tomas Vanek….. or Chris Drury…..
Habs fans sang: Olé, Olé…
Devils fans: Oye vey!
Boone is referring to the recent trend of alternating victories and losses.
I’ve noticed the same. They likes their Carrey
It’s sad isn’t it.
Team’s winning, first in the division… Gomez has goals in back to back games.
Crap still reins down.
I hope markov gets healthy quick, but if he is on the disabled list we could use cap room for a signing down the stretch depending on team health…i hope he comes back though
4-0 Oil over laffs. Well at least they can’t laugh at what happened to us last night.
eller tonight; 12:39 of ice with a goal and a assist. +2. he is getting better EVERY game!!
the most ice time hes gotton all year. JM please play him more!!!!
It’s brutal. People bitch whether the Habs lose or win.
And meanwhile, people ignore Gomez’ goal and bitch about his -1. Dudes, a guy could score eight times on the PP, and be on the ice for one even strength goal, and still end up -1. +/- is one of those stats you really need to take with a grain of salt.
WHat matters is that Gomez is staying close to the net, and it has started paying off for him.
*Techically* no one is worth that money save for Stamkos, Crosby and Ovechkin really. Everyone else should be sub 5-6mil
What he said
Took a shot somewhere and it stung
Heh. Right on.
We also could’ve have Marian Gaborik or Ilya Kovalchuck. Gomez is not getting off that easy.
Last night’s fault is this night’s press box attendee.
I know this sounds harsh, but it’s like people think they sound knowledgeable when they dump on someone.
Despite the horrific blown lead from last night, which WASN’T Gomez’s fault, 3/4 points in back to back games is pretty good. Could have had 4 though.
If you want to laugh go over to their HFBoards post-game threads. Schadenfreude never was so sweet. >:)
What’s Boyd’s status?
Is he practicing with the team?
i personally think him gio n pouliot were a solid line
3 out of 4 points in back to back games, I would’ve taken that before the Oilers game
I agree, and I would say it’s time to ask more from Pouliot and put him on that line. But, he’s looking so good with Eller, maybe you just let that chemistry grow. Those two could be a long time combo for this team.
tough schedule down the stretch
Carbo is soooooo much better in French.
Absolutely 100% agree. He is a terrific analyst.
Swictched over to watch a bit of Ice Road Truckers last nite before OT started and when I switched back ….4-3
And by the posters today .. it wasn’t pretty .. glad I missed it . I thought PK looked tenative from the start and Spacek was also off a bit . Eller and Benny continue to imprees with their speed/vision although Benny for some reason has a knack for cheap penalties. AK /Gionta/Price .. kudos too also. That can’t be said for the rest .. who had a off nite .. let’s hope for a better team performace to nite .. go habs !!
The Club didn’t play that well yesterday. Subban changed the course of the game. This is the point when the enthusiasm wanes and they first start to realize it’s 82 games like this, then maybe the playoffs. Sitting him won’t hurt his development.
The team would be better if they didn’t have to deal with stupid questions 24 hours a day. You can see Gomez melting under the relentless nagging. But then again excuses are like Avery, everyone has one.
Will the good Habs or the bad Habs show up to play?
I hope the nasty ones show up today!
Regarding Cammalleri: yes, he does dog it defensively and he’s struggling offensively. But this is not really news to anybody who has followed Cammalleri throughout his career. I frequently compare him to Dany Heatley, of whom I’ve never been a strong supporter: he doesn’t contribute much of anything to his team unless he scores. Like Heatley, though, Cammalleri does usually score and the Habs are in sore need of that particular skill-set. All players go through struggles, so let’s not be too hasty to rip his game to shreds as the new scapegoat.
Regarding Eller vs. Gomez: Eller is improving, but he is not ready for second line minutes and responsibilities, nor does he need the added pressure. He’s developing nicely just where he is…the points aren’t there yet, but the professional game is making itself more and more evident. The Habs’ biggest failure in recent years has been a lack of patience with its developing players and their growing pains. Let’s not repeat those mistakes yet again.
Regarding Subban: I think that anybody that watched Subban in the OHL or AHL can tell you that while he is a very bright prospect, he will have games like last night’s where you just want to pull your hair out. He is a high-risk, high-reward type player: as he gets more experience and maturity, he will learn to pick his spots better. Once again, patience has to be the operative word. If you reign him in too much, you risk neutralizing the cockiness and self-confidence that makes him such an exciting prospect. There are lots of skilled hockey players in this world that never make it in the NHL because the mental side of the game beats them down. Subban does not have that problem as of right now, so let’s live with his mistakes and celebrate the excitement and enthusiasm he adds to a team that doesn’t really feature much of either trait without him.
I noticed last night that the Oilers were all over his Subbie-Doo. A few times he tried that spin move (that I saw) it did not work to his advantage. Oilers were pressuring him and counting on it. I think he needs to continue to play hard, and like you said, do a better job of picking his spotts. I want to see the kid rush more, but know when NOT to attempt the high risk pinches and fancy spin moves
I think Eller is ready for a few games to see how he handles the pressure. Honestly can the 2nd line be any worse?
He is responsible and back checks, tough to get the puck from and never gives up on the play.
I do agree, he is developing fine, sometimes when you rush talent and the points don’t come, that can have a negative impact, but Lars does not seem like that type IMO. I am really surprised by him thus far, only great things will come eventually.
I say, give Lars a chance with truly talented wingers (i.e. Cammalleri), the Gomez Experiment has gone on long enough. Make him ride the pine and become hungry for ice time.
One could argue that Gomez has looked not ready for second line minutes either….
“Of course I’m crazy, but that doesn’t mean I’m wrong.” – Robert Anton Wilson
As much as I dislike HNIC in Canada sometimes, it would be a tragedy to see it shut down.
I like that HNIC is threatened, maybe it’ll force them to actually try and improve their programming. If they think Dan Chorra, Maclame, Mike Milbury, PJ Stock, Glenn Healy and a senile Bob Cole are what makes quality hockey broadcasting well, they’ll have done it to themselves.
Ummm… you do realize that that happend when he was in Atlanta, not in Ottawa right? Thats more or less the reason they traded him to Ottawa to give him a fresh start….
I hate to pull out the ‘my friend died in a freak car accident that was entirely my fault so I can act like a dick sometimes to cover up my own insecurities and depression’ card but maybe people in Ottawa should give Dany Heatley some slack. I’m sure the scars from an event like that never truly leave somebody, even a highly paid, highly sought after professional athlete. Maybe he just needed to get away from a place that still reminded him of that horrible accident. Does it really make somebody a scumbag because they don’t want to play for the same team anymore? Okay, maybe I’m clutching at straws in attempting to guess why he’s doing so, but it’s as fair a guess as ‘greed’, ‘not wanting to play for a losing team’, ‘general a-holeness’. Let’s try to be a bit more optimistic when it comes to these guys and not assume they’re all dickheads…except for Komisarek.
Toronto losing 5-0 to a surging Edmonton Oilers…
Wins against three NE divison teams in a row…Hmmmm Maybe there really was more to that “arena research” meeting in Quebec City.
Gomez is the only minus Hab in a 5-1 game….
and Gomez gets triple the ice, time on the PP, makes 11 times as much money, and has 4 more points!!!!…..shall I continue?
It all depends on what you want out of Lars Eller down the road.
Right now, he gets away with pretty poor offensive production because he is a third line player. Eller has 1 goal and 3 points and only 28 shots on net in 24 games played. That is not the kind of production that is really worthy of a promotion.
More importantly, if he is promoted to Gomez’s spot and continues to struggle, can you imagine how much pressure the kid is going to feel from the tunnel-visioned Habs fans?
No thanks. Gomez is a veteran and can take his licks from the public in stride. Eller is a rookie and needs some time to develop.
No need to crap one’s pants yet.
Oilers played well, got a little help from the ref and won. We still got a point.
Jacques will have them playing their arses off tonight.
And why not give Mathieu Carle a chance?
Is he really that bad, he seemed to have some poise last time he was up for a couple of games.
LET’S GIVE MAX PAC A CHANCE!!!
Guessing Habs don’t want to risk Carle being vulnerable to waivers, I think they’re still weighing trade options for a D and apparently Markov, his agent is meeting with PG and the team doctor tommorow as he makes a decision RE his future. Carle may get his chance next though.
Pacioretty will stay in HAM for now, this is the club considering the success of their handling of Subban in the minors and so they’ll let Pacioretty rule the AHL this season than bring him up next year as a more complete player with polished offensive talents.
Missed this match, glad to see the Habs bounce back!
The player I’ll be watching for is Price. He’s had an amazing year precisely because he gave up his two year kneel-a-thon while holding his stick above the ice. He resumed that horrific position on the winning breakaway last night. I’m sure he’ll turn it around.
Could be a boring game – Jersey can be mind-numbing.
you’re right, he should have stood up on a breakaway! that makes perfect sense!
Which of these guys would be the first to get the ax/step down?
A) Lou Lamoriello
B) Darcy Regier
C) Glen Sather
Sather. At least Lou can blame ownership for the biggest mistakes.
Anyone else getting the Endif on the front page? Had some trouble finding the Boone section, but I used some detective skills to get here
Wow EDM up 5-0 on TO!
Sure, we’ve had some real stinker matches. But imagine if you will how the Devils fans must feel about now.
That’s an assist for Darche?
I if too drunk to remember…what’s the words to the “Ole! Ole!” song?
Very good PP. Too bad Cammy won’t get an assist there, he deserves it. But that shot of Weber’s sure looked good there.
It’s wonderful for NJ to suffer. Serves them right for trying to kill hockey for the last 20 years.
Yeah baby. My man Gomez!!!
They guy who was tabbed as the future of goaltending in Montreal was benched countless times last season in favour of “the other guy”. He bounced back. PK will do the same. It’s only one freakin’ game.
Hopefully this’ll give PK some time to think about his situational awareness what he needs to do to play a more defensively-responsible game.
Centre Hice: one fan’s attachment to the Montreal Canadiens
I am such a blasphemer: Thou shalt not take the name of thy lord’s Shutout in vain
OK. 1 goal against is awesome. Sounds like the Price-bots are rearing their ugly heads again. “Poor Carey didn’t get his Shutout. It’s all Boone’s and HH’s fault.”
My posting the word “SHUTOUT” had no bearing on the game. Gomez on the other hand….
Now gimme back my hook, line and sinker please!!!
You said it yourself, blame the non-shutout on me. You reap what you sow.
Do you suppose that Heatley has a tough time trying to convince teammates to ride along with him on the drive to the rink?
“Hey Thornton, leave the Beamer at home. I’ll swing by and pick you up.”
“Uhhh… that’s ok, Heats. I’ll take the bus.”
OK we can lay off GOmez from here on in….He’s on a two-game goal scoring streak.
1206 games coached and still no stanley cup
a bunch of posts.. and still a loser
1206 comments and still nothing to say
When you’re right, you’re right, doggie.
Pacioretty didn’t bury himself in that interview, he said some of the right things the wrong way as Marinaro conducted one of his usual hack interviews and went with leading questions with a kid who isn’t slick with the media like say, Gomez or Cammalleri. Organization is handling Pacioretty the way they developed Subban in the minors, we won’t see Max-Pac until towards the end of the season unless the club is struck with major injuries (knock on wood).
You’re not Timo. Not by a long shot.
Have the common sense to keep your language in check (re:ALN posts) please.
Just got home to find out that Subban has been benched for tonight’s game. I don’t think it’s a big deal, especially in light of the fact that he directly and indirectly was responsible for the 3rd and 4th Oiler goals. If that had of been Spacek or Hamrlik, they would have been keelhauled by the hostile H I/O horde.
Subban is a great rookie but that doesn’t mean he should receive special treatment when he goes off the rails. It’s all part of his maturation process and I’m sure that it’s a lesson he will remember for the rest of the year.
It also let’s everyone else know that no individual player is above the team.
“keelhauled.” What a great word that is. It should get way more use than it does. Though using it more might remove the luster…
I think you’re correct…however, if it had been Spaceman or Hammer, they wouldn’t be watching from the pressbox tonight.
Not that I necessarily disagree with the move though. I missed the game yesterday (first time all season), but from what I read, PK could use some time to think about his on-ice performance.
The only interesting answers are those which destroy the questions. ~Susan Sontag
This 2nd PP unit is really killing it right now, led by the net presence of Darche no less.
Alexei Yashin is embarrassed by Kovalchuk’s contract.
think he’s more concerned about price’s stick positioning on the play(rightly so), but you still can’t blame that one on carey.
breakaways like that are tough on a goalie. they make you open up and move and it can be hard to keep the stick on the ice (for me anyways, but i’m not a pro).
Of course – it’s all a personal vendetta. He is a superstar – and he played awesome the last two and a half years – don’t believe the stats or your lying eyes.
I’m ecstatic he’s turned it around this year – and hope like hell he doesn’t slip back into old habits.
Actually, he should have stood far longer, but the big mistake was letting his stick fly up as he sprawled.
Score one for the point shot.
ok before we lynch JM for benching subban, i would like to point out that young players can learn things from the pressbox….
So can Veterans….
Yes, all they have to do is watch Gomez. Watch and learn, salaga, watch and learn.
Thats 2 in a row for Gomez, dare I say it, wow Benny
Pouliot with a lazer!
Another late call on RDS!! LOL
Marty can’t play tonight. He’s back home eating Chicken Wings at La Cage.
No trap, no Marty = buh bye Devils! You guys are going to love Marty’s retirement!
Pouliot shows off his first round skills
Now get another one!! make it 5!!!!
Pouliot!!!! And the rout is on. My wife just asked if they have a third goalie to put in.
All of jersey is quiet tonight. Go Habs Go!!!
Lou is calling the press box to see if Chico Resch is available.
Momesso predicting John MacLean will lose his job after tonight.
Pouliot scores the free-chicken-wings goal!
Am I the only thinking if Brodeur had started it’d be 2-0 NJ right now?
Poo shows he can shoot, what a rout…
Holy crap! Benny can shoot!
the best player in the nhl . 2goals tonight 1 behind stamkos and leading overall in points. where is OV at?
Shut-up Sergio. Don’t want the Devils to start running guys.
Yep. Martin is going to scratch Benny for that
Can we button this mother down now?
OK guys. No need to take the pedal off the gas. Keep pressing. Let’s win this by a touch down!!!
They might have to put hedberg back in
This is kind of a disgrace.
I never thought I could be bored watching the Habs winning.
Correct me if I’m wrong: already 11 habs with a point tonight? They each have only one.
Just switched it over to the Cavs / Heat game. I’ve heard louder booing at Habs games for icing then what they’re giving James.
Don’t look now, but the Habs are 3 for the last 4 on the PP.
i think i would like to see Camalleri with Eller and Benny
Eller and Gomez two points apiece, no?
Eller’s got a goal and an assist, apart from that you are correct.
EDIT: HAMRLIK with 2 assists too!
Correct! NHL.com hadn’t updated all the assists yet! But still 11 habs lol
This NJ crowd is feckin DEAD, man. Can’t be fun playing in front of the world’s largest oil painting.
… The refs for tonite’s tilt are Mike Leggo and Ghislain Hebert ??? , OMG.
Is Hebert the guy who called Pronger for the Avery rule?
Boone’s right, TSN says so:
Defenceman Yannick Weber will be in the lineup for the Canadiens tonight
oh, this is lame… le sigh.
I hope Gionta gets Gionta in the corner and then *WHAMMO* lays him out. Show mamma & pappa Gionta who the baddest boy of the pair is.
If HNIT dies because of Rogers buying a stake in the laffs, I for one won’t shed one bloody tear over it. For the past 15 years or so they have alienated half of their fanbase by showing the laffs every single saturday night. As the saying goes, you reap what you sow, and HNIT has taken great pleasure, imho in alienating a big chunk of their constituency (Hab fans) for many years. When Molson’s got out of HNIT, the show started to go downhill and it just kept spirralling down the toilet since. I laughed my ass off when they lost the hockey theme for a measly $100k, and when they continue to employ hacks like Meathead Milbury, PJ Spock, Big-Mouth Healy, and the BIGGEST clown of them all Chesterfield Cherry, then, well…yiou get what you deserve. Sorry for the rant, but I had to let it out. GO HABS GO!!!
Is this really that big of a deal? PK being benched, in his first season of being in the NHL? He’s played great, but he’s been playing more and more recklessly.
Weber is our other top d-prospect. He needs some ice-time. PK gets to sit in the pressbox, and watch the game – which I’ve been told is a good metal break for a rookie. I dunno, I really don’t see this as a bad move.
As to other “non-moves.” What are they really going to do? Bench Gomez? For Boyd? Really?
Here’s a fact: we need Gomez.
Halpern isn’t a top 6 center anymore, and Lars isn’t yet. We need Gomez to get back on track. He’s got the skills, hands, and passing ability to be a no.1 center. He is not be playing like it, but if this team has any hope of doing some damage, we need Gomez to return to form. His play has gotten better recently, and that has got to continue. If his play is still sluggish likie this through xmas, then we gotta start considering some serious options though.
You don’t like HNIC? Who would have thought.
Hmm… did I or did I not set the PVR. I think I did. When are they going to make PVRs you can program via a cell phone?
There also should be an app for beer delivery. I think I might need quite a bit tonight.
Hey, they’ve been pissing me off for MANY years with their anti-Hab bias. I’m sure they must have irked you from time to time as well Timo.
hehe… yeah, a time or two. But I am such an easy going guy I get over it very quickly. I am a lover, not a hater.
PK will come back strong on Saturday, for sure!!! At a bio tutorial, dying! but I have to listen to this, but the guy sitting beside me is prolly more interesting that watching the game. Seriously!
Take off the habs goggles for a moment – our D has issues. Another team benches a rookie d-man? No big deal. Who cares, year 1 he’ll get over it. However this is the habs – the team that allows tons of good shots, tons of break aways and has no one to shoot from the point. I’m sorry but benching Subban is suicide without Markov. Literally we have no puck moving defenceman now. AWESOME. Who’s getting more ice time, Gill?
Call me when the team wins 5-0 tonight, because personally I smell a loss and a bad one.
Does he look like a guy on your avatar?
Ask and you shall receive.
With Bell, you actually can. Haven’t you seen the commercial where the police officer tells the dude?
Nope. Ok, I will check. Thanks, Harani. Can’t wait for my telus contract to end next summer. Gawd, I hate Telus.
sorry but I can’t see how you keep mike cammalleri’s mug on your avatar after the start he’s had for this season
Bring Max Pac up and have these lines:
AK46, Pleks, Gionta
Max Pac, Eller, Cammi
Moen, Halpern, Lapierre
Which ever of the third and fourth lines has the energy going that night then give them more ice time.
Ha, ha, so am I. Except when it comes to the Habs. Then I’m all business. God I miss Danny Gallivan. HE was tough on the Habs when they were playing bad, and was fair and objective to the other team. Sadly you don’t get those traits from the new breed of hockey broadcasters.
Actually, 100x times better, and he’s a football player for McGill and he’s wearing a suit coz he came from a team meeting. This is freakin’ awesome. And when he asks a question, EVERYONE turns around and stares at him. *sigh*
JM is benching PK just to prove he’s willing to bench him. That’s the only way I can make heads or tails of this move. I mean has PK really been that bad or difficult?
Not a bad night to decide to bench Subban.
Tail end of a back-back pair, no Brodeur, and the Devils are 14th in the Eastern Conference. If he were benched against the Sharks, he’d probably be more upset about it.
I agree with you that it gives us Weber a chance and get an honest look at him.
Yeah, I wasn’t very clear about that, was I? Guess I’ll go with Brian. He plays for my team.
Too busy to change, I tried twice last week and it didn’t work so screw it, sometime in the holidays, will change. “It must be love!”
Hedberg is a career 2-6-1 (2.84, .898) vs. Habs
so we loose PK’s 25 ++ minutes per game, this done on a back to back (travelling) game, only to get to see Gill, Spatch and Hammer gased by the 2 nd period, wonder who Jacques was really trying to punish.
Anyone else scared that it’s against us that Kovy II has his breakout game?
The more I think about it, the more I hate the PK move. It sucks! He led the team in TOI last night and now, he’s not playing at all? The Habs and young players… depressing.
Hey waitamminit there……..
What just happened?
THAT WAS SO FRIGGIN FAST!!!!
I like that start. If we can keep up that scoring pace, that’ll do.
Hell of a start. Go GIO!!!
What took them so long?
Anyone else see Price slightly headbanging to Kickstart My Heart? lol
Yes. He did the Habs games but always made an effort to call it fairly. I miss him and his classiness. I think I’ll just spinorama out of here now.
What a goal!
“I went to see a fight the other night…And A hockey game broke out!” ~Rodney Dangerfield~
WORTH EVERY PENNY!
MA Godin in La Presse is saying PK will sit tonight. I hope it’s just a ploy by JM and he will finally dress him, like he did with Spacek earlier, otherwise it would be a foolish move. With Markov out, we need Subban’s puck-moving presence, even though it sometimes leads to games like last night. Still better than MAB, no? For the first time this season, I don’t feel good about tonight’s game.
I actually don’t have a problem with benching him. It might as well be on the road after a bad performances. Last night, PK said that he wasn’t concentrating on his shifts, thinking about other things, well…he’ll have plenty of time to think about it today. Let’s stop acting like he’s aa veteran, he’s not and he can be scratched. Others better pick up the slack.
I honestly dont even want to watch. Sorry. Going to be a loss
Subban won’t play tonight, he’ll be a healthy scratch.
Gold, Jerry, gold!!!
not really.. i am sure that Rivet is not learning loads in Buffalo.
veterans will not learn much from the stands, they play through issues because they know how.
this PK scratch is not a big deal, he’s not immune
I’d rather hear a bunch of anti-HH diatribes than another round of Gomez bashing.
I was being sarcastic. Blame me if you will. SO’s are rare in the NHL, that’s why they track them.
1.00 GAA for the game is good by me.
Yeah, I know HH, i’m just yankin your chain.
MAGodin reports that PK is a healthy scratch tonight. Weber is in. I personally think it will help him. Sitting out on game isn’t going kill his confidence. He knows he needs to be better. Now if we can only get JM to bench Gomez.
I agree completely, I think it’s a good call. PK had a bad game, on a back-to-back. Weber is our other top d-prospect, and should be getting some ice time.
I’d also like to see Boyd in the lineup, maybe for Pyatt. Pyatt’s game has slipped a bit, and I think that having competition would help the intensity of the team – which has been inconsistent.
Final note: maybe time to reunite Cammy with Pleks? Gionta-Gomez-and someone not named Moen. I love Moen, but the man can’t score or carry the puck in the o-zone. Give Benny another crack.
Spacek and the hammer make mistakes, for sure, but not this kind of mistake(usually)
Subban has lately been forgetting about the responsible game he has been playing earlier in the season and is now starting the subby doos and such. His mistakes weren’t just mistakes, but very poor decisions, decision which JM has been trying to get out of his game. I think it’s a good move, and one that will serve him and the team well. When hammer and spacek make a mistake like that, they know it right away. Subban has still some things to learn, but he’ll be great!
do they actually call it the “Avery rule”? if they do well… wow! lol
That’s Avery’s legacy
that and elisha c
Nice to see every line chip in the scoring. Gomez 2 goals in 2 games?!
Damn, just tuned in looks like I missed a great 1st half.
Maybe we saw the effect of some pre-scouting by Taylor Hall, who is VERY familiar with P.K. Subban as a player, having matched up against him in the OHL and played with him on the World Junior team.
That bum Price hasn’t scored in long time…
here we go again, young skilled players not allowed to make mistakes under the count system.
Meanwhile pylon gill is always on the ice for goals and gomez constantly gives up the puck, yet he plays every game
We keep you here. Can you define mistake any better than one of your posts?
am i the only one to notice benny;s and eller’s budding chemistry in the last few games?
Porganization Boone lol?! How about pornagization.
Has anyone ever seen the Habs up 5 – 0 1/2 way through a game in NJ?
Check all the empty seats ….
It’s embarrassing for Lou Lamoriello? Really? You could argue this is his own fault, firing coach after coach, not to mention the INSANE move of signing Kovy II. Hoist by his own petard, I’d say.
I have heard several insiders (including Bob McKenzie) say that the Kovy deal was at the direct order from the owner, over the opposition of Lou.
In some ways, yeah.
But that’s not really the point, is it?
Eller, Pouliot, Weber and Tommy F. Pyatt of Thunder Bay – great to see them step up. I wonder what the combination of Eller/Cammalleri would play like?
My post earlier had a line of Max Pac, Eller and Cammi. Other lines were AK46, Pleks, Gionta, Pouliot, Gomez Darche and Moen, Halpern and Lapierre.
Kay. Now save some of that abundant energy being displayed in this game for the next. We can snap out of our retarded .500 hockey streak and reclaim the #1 spot in the conference.
Pull the goalie….oh wait! they already did!
Other than Philadelphia, I can’t think of a team that deserves to be embarrassed more than the Devils….
Never thought I would ever see the Habs schooling the Devils in their own building. Like being in Dreamland.
And we have a winger!!!!
the only thing that would hv made this sweeter is if martin f. was in the nets.
now cammi or ak46 needs to bury one. make it 6-0!!
Gee, Kovalchuk is quiet. For that kind of money …”
…yes i saw his goal…the other team was playing without sticks for chr**t’s sake
Gee, Kovalchuk is quiet. For that kind of money …”
…yes i saw his goal…the other team was playing without sticks for chr**t’s sake
Haha Boone: nice slip– “porganization”… as in “poor organization”?
C’mon guys support your goalie now!
sorry about taking up all of that space…my bad
How big an impact did Adam Mair signing in New Jersey have in Kovalchuk deciding to go there instead of Los Angeles? I need to know.
You’re an ass. A veritable donkey.
We say: go to the net. Past few games, he goes to the net. Past few games, the goals have started to come.
And still the incogniscenti bleat on about contracts.
Pouliot-Eller-Maxpac would be nice, but hey JM says darche is better
Hey Lou…when did you move your team to the Nassau Coliseum?
Did Eller fire one at the empty NJ net?
This game isn’t going to sell too many seasons tickets for the Devils
Heroic PK coming up here!
you’re defending an $8m/yr ghost?
Nah just mad at the call, or himself i think
“I don’t know half of you half as well as I should like; and I like less than half of you half as well as you deserve.”
– Bilbo Baggins
This is total BS. I’ve never seen a penalty called with a delayed penalty yet to be called. God knows it’s happened to us.
Yikes. The boys clearly weren’t thinking about Carey and his shutout bid. Two simultaneous minors? whoah
SICK work by the PK. good job boys.
Great kill, Price had to make some saves, but we kept all shots to the outside
Switch Pouliot with Cammi and I will agree.
The ear-splitting sound of 43 fans booing you
Gill has a 747’s wingspan.
OMG, the crowd is awake!
So Price now forced to have to earn a chance at a _______
Momesso thinks the Jersey coach is gonna get axed
WOW! what an epic pk!
u called it
There are 43? Seems high….
Including mom and pop Gionta
YOU FOOL YOU DOOMED US ALL
I would love a ________________!
Why not? The NJD make the Leafs look good. They’re just so unbelievably terrible.
I am not superstitious. In order to prserve the shut-out the Habs need to keep skating. I wont even mind if NJ scores, as long as the team doesn’t revert to the 1-4 I’ll be happy.
Not at all. All he wrote was Price will have to work for a _______________________. I agree.
You mean Gionta
When NJ scores, I will remember you! AND I HOPE YOU WILL LEARN! lol
I’d love one too. I’m going to the fridge to get one.
I’m with ya, but I’m not saying it lol!
A _____________ cannot be found in the fridge! Heaven’s to Betsy!!
It’s true. Price will have to work for a paycheque.
I’d love to play Texas Hold’em with these peeps.
Some day I hope we understand how to play with the hard earned lead.
get into a defensive mode once we have the lead, and let them come
after us. Leaning on our very good goal tender and our good team
defence to carry us the rest of the game.
It is impossible to turn on the offence once we start to coast on defence.
best defence is puck control at all areas of the ice, once we get
fortunate to have a lead. We got sloppy, lazy and it cost us again.
A 2 goal lead seems to trigger a different mental posture.!!
Heres a neat THN article about that http://www.thehockeynews.com/articles/36569-Justin-Bournes-Blog-Blowout-games-all-about-the-stats.html
And Eller!!! and Hedberg yanked!!!!
Perhaps. Not sure that matters. He still negociated and signed the deal.
I am so glad Lou and Burke are GMs in my division, is all.
LARS ELLER!!! ohhhhhh yeeeee
Lars Eller is a CHAMP
Fastest pulled goalie I ever seen
Well I guess PK will never play again…
What is going on? I LOVE IT
It’s nice when it FINALLY happens to someone else eh?
Bouchard thinks it’s more complicated than a bad game against the Oilers.
This is what I was discussing with Berkshire. It seems like an overreaction from the outside, but there could be several messages being passed to the youngster tonight.
I keep thinking back to the Richards thing. Afterward, Gill said something to the effect that he’d want PK to shut up too. Whatever he said, it didn’t exactly come across as a ringing endorsement for a young teammate… from an assistant captain.
An absolute dream start.
Eller! The Great Dane!
Now we can sit on our comfortable lead for the remaining 57 minutes no?
McKeena 0-1 on the season, and gets a 2-0 deficit to try for win #1…
Having to listen to the radio call, my net connection doesn’t like streams right now. Already reset the router 2x in two days to no effect.
Btw – so THIS is what the devils look like without Marty. I cannot wait until he retires
here come the phantom penalties
TORONTO PRESSED THE EASY BUTTON
The ref didn’t raise his arm until he saw that the Devil had missed the shot. Kind of a weak call.
anyone’s goota good stream , the link at atdhe is lagging like hell
Beware the 2-0 lead!
Kovalchuk literally walked right through Gorges there. Like Josh wasn’t even there.
2-0 already!!! I missed it damnit!
Within like 2 minutes of the start!
We know Brian is the older brother …but which Gionta is the “Big” brother??
I’m loving Eller’s jump and his play here and recently…I think he is starting to remind me of a younger Plekanec…wait to go JM on bringing hiim along right and not rushing to fast.
If he turns out to be a younger Plekanecs we are looking really good down the middle in a year or so…
anyone know the record for the quickest a goalie was pulled??
your friendly neighborhood Salted One
Plecky on the penalty shot………
YES!! Penalty shot! Comeon Tomas!
Man the Devils stink tonight…
Is that the Devils first save of the night?
That is some crazy speed by Pleks. But no good on the penalty shot. He sucks at those.
Let’s just hope that we get to see a 60-min hockey game.
Should have let them take the penalty, oh well.
I love Lars Eller.
theyre the same listed at 5-7
If Eller becomes another Pleks, Gomez really becomes a problem.
Cammi screws up an easy pass from Pleks ahead of PS trip, then bobbles one from Gomez.
Any chance certain people here will start blaming Cammi for Cammi’s problems?
I don’t know what it is about games in NJ, but they always sound like an AHL game. It’s weird…are their mikes weaker or something? The crowd noise sounds like a million miles away.
Some players just have no instinct in the PS/SO situations.
There’s no crowd there xcept for the Giontas!
Gomez already IS a problem…like a virus that sucks the life nad tallent out of his wingers…
Looks good on PG.
Price is in the zone, I love it
I hope Parise signs an offer sheet in the summer.
parise-pleks-camelleri would be a treat.
so Darche is to Gomez, what a push up bra is to a Victoria Secret model
a 5-on-3 and all the shots were from the point. nothing down low or the half wall. they also used 5 forwards. they need a PP quarterback.
Pyatt Gomez Moen may work…
After all the heartache in new Jersey over the past years, hearing them get booed is music to my ears, the only thing that would have made this perfect , if Martin F was taking this one on the chin, But Im not greedy, Im lovin it anyway
Anyone dissing JM for sitting PK now? Haha
Yes? What game are you watching? NJ has been flat and yet there are still major D errors. Benching PK hasn’t solved anything. You seriously think if they benched Hamr or Spacek instead, having Weber in WITH Subban they wouldn’t be better? Sorry I don’t agree.
A crap Devils team with no Parise and no Brodeur, please.
Weber is pretty good out there tonight – with some more time he might be excellent on the pp.
He did mostly everything right on that last pp, taking good shots that are getting through traffic as well. Though I saw some Devils take a run at him, looks like he didnt like it very much and didn’t know what to do.
Carbo on RDS! Weird
Read the writing on the wall, Pleks felt sorry for them
thats ok let all the JM lovers chant because were beating a garbage team – Max pac said it all in the interview thats why hes not playing and darch is instead…the youth are doomed here
Bench Subban a few more games, as long as they win NOW right? Nevermind the future! Rah rah rah, the moment!
a lot of the bloggers here are like typical laughs fans; think the team is awesome regardless
Cammalleri didn’t stretch too hard for that pass. What’s with him?”
From what I’ve heard in interviews, he sounds right peeved off these days.
That Pylon just did a good job on that 5-on-3.
i know LOL
DID YOU SEE THAT SWEET DEKE BY SUBBAN?
Neither did I….
Cammalleri is peeved because he’s not scoring…
Hmmm That could explain why Boone has been so bitter for the last 20 years…. ;P
I think Cammi has caught the Gomez virus…a very sad debilitating virus that sucks hte talent and compete level out of the players that play beside Gomez.
That’s ok, playing with Pleky is the perfect antidote! Now we just need one for every line…..
Pleks needs to change his penalty shot/shootout tactics. If he wants to shoot, he needs to get the goalie backing up quickly. Skating around like that does the exact opposite. He needs to consider coming in very quickly, then slamming on the brakes to take the shot.
LOL at Price getting upset when he isn’t able to play the puck.
Yeah, lol! Banged his goal stick on the ice in frustration!
blue line hockey and a dead crowd O jersey
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