Another shutout for Martin F. Brodeur

That’s his eighth in 51 career starts against the Canadiens.

Brodeur kept New Jeresy in the game through an early onslaught that included three Canadiens power plays. Then Zach Parise took over with a natural hat trick (two of them on power plays.)

Brian Gionta completed the 4-0 rout, beating Carey Price during a bizarre two-man New Jeresy advantage.

Another night to forget in New Jersey, where the Devils treat the Canadiens worse than Tony Soprano treated his mistresses.

At least they got dinner.



  1. P St. Pierre says:

    Mike, in total agreement. Latendresse really seems to fit in with the first line. He’s playing a hardnosed, aggressive style, which creates room for Higgins and Koivu. He’s great in front of the net and he is hard to knock around because he’s so big. I still think he’s going to be a real impact player in the future, as long as he keeps playing hard.

  2. Chuck says:

    You knew that a call would go in their favour sooner or later.

    “Vote Saku for All-Star… or little Timmy gets it!!!”

  3. P St. Pierre says:

    Price really is a huge goaltender. Langenbrunner didn’t have a chance.

  4. P St. Pierre says:

    Scarey Carey moment.

  5. Chuck says:

    Oops… might have spoke too soon! :)

    “Vote Saku for All-Star… or little Timmy gets it!!!”

  6. P St. Pierre says:

    I can’t believe this game is still 0-0. This pressure is great to see and if the Canadiens really want it more, they can win.

  7. Chuck says:

    You’ve got to love the way that Carey handles the puck on the powerplay. He shortens up their transition by a few seconds and keeps the other team back on their heels.

    “Vote Saku for All-Star… or little Timmy gets it!!!”

  8. Ali says:

    Higgins fluffs beautiful Koivu pass, #1340032

  9. Chuck says:

    Great chance by Higgins!

    “Vote Saku for All-Star… or little Timmy gets it!!!”

  10. Ali says:

    best pressure of the season?? WHAT A SHIFT by Pleks, Kosty and Kovy

  11. Ali says:

    im going to play the devils advocate and ask a blasphemous question:

    given that we have Jaroslav Halak and Yann Danis in Hamilton, and Huet in the pro’s, would the Canadiens be better off or worse off if we had drafted Anze Kopitar instead of Price?

    Would the tandem of Halak/Huet have been much better/worse then Price/Huet?

    also, given the market for goaltenders in the NHL, we can’t really expect much for Huet, given that Anaheim literally had to give Bryzgalov away, and Huet is a UFA at years end.

  12. Ibleedbleublancetrouge. says:

    He replies with: “Had we gone with that philosophy we wouldn’t have picked up the Halaks, Sergei Kostitsyns and Gabrovskis of this world”

    Timmins is right on the money.

  13. Ibleedbleublancetrouge. says:

    RDS is talking about how Timmins and questionning his reasons for not picking Quebec players.

  14. KamiDave says:

    That and I think my wife would like to be spared another night of me screaming at the television.

  15. krob1000 says:

    Markov is on our top defensive pairing playing top minutes against the other teams top units. Our 5 on 5 play has suffered and as a result the guy who is most often on the ice as a member of whichever 5 man unit is struggling is unfortunately Markov. Plus/Minus is a misleading stat at times. It can be thought of more of a team stat than anything. Guys who play big minutes on teams that struggle 5 on 5 will have bad plus /minus stats. Obviously there are exceptions and soemtimes the stat is valuable ( I am sure teams employ a video guy who probably rates them differently…or at least they should). Markov is going to be a Norris trophy candidate this year (I predict anyway).

  16. Ed says:

    Mike, I was not sure what you meant about Markov, so I checked it out. It is hard to believe that he was a minus in every one of the last 7 games, going -2 in one game, and -1 in each of the other 6 games. Maybe he has had an injury all along which had something to do with this. He has been a plus player over his career with Montreal.

  17. TommyB says:

    I hear ya, but come on, where’s you sense of adventure? LOL

  18. TommyB says:

    LOL…von, if you have to explain it…….

  19. Ibleedbleublancetrouge. says:

    I’d prefer not to go into cardiac arrest tonight, thanks.

  20. Dan23 says:

    The Habs are in tough, that’s for sure. It would be nice to go to a shootout again, just to see the goaltender duel…

  21. Moey says:

    Bold prediction – Habs win it 3-2

    Kovy, Koivu & Ryder score.

  22. Ed says:

    This is not really relevant except for the “F” in Martin F. Brodeur and the Gazette’s own Mike F. Boone. Newfoundland’s 2nd premier was Frank Duff Moores. Ray Guy, a local satirist, referred to him as F. Duff Moores.

    Let’s hope that Brodeur is less than exceptional tonight, and that the Canadiens can get more shots on him than they usually do. Also, Price will need to play another strong game.

    GO HABS GO!!!!

  23. teamplayer says:

    my hands are up in the air!!! i’m a glass half full guy

  24. von says:

    I believe the “F” thing is translation for “f$%&in.” It obviously has nothing to do with their real middle names.

    Mats F. Sundin, Derek F. Roy, Erik F. Cole…

    Thats my interpretation at least.

  25. krob1000 says:

    My guess is because he is so f’n good against us!!

  26. Brain of J says:

    Mike Boone

    I know your getting a kick out of the full name but really… How stupid does this look

    Joseph J.O. Plante
    Douglas N. Harvey
    Jean K. Beliveau
    Bernard J. Geoffrion
    Howard W. Morenz
    Joseph H.M. Richard
    Guy D. Lafleur
    Richard W. Moore
    Yvan S. Cournoyer
    Joseph H. Richard
    Serge A. Savard
    Kenneth W.Dryden
    Lawrence C. Robinson

    Please let the Bruins stick to this nonsense

  27. HabsGO says:

    Price will outplay Broduer. Lantedresse needs to be in his face all game long. Chris Higgins will score couples in front of his relatives from long islands. Yeah, couple goals by defensemen on screened shots. Go Habs Go

  28. Ibleedbleublancetrouge. says:

    ummm this is going to sounds stupid… but why is it Martin F. Brodeur? His middle name is Pierre… anyone care to enlighten me.

  29. krob1000 says:

    Brodeur is having a slow start but seems to be coming on as of late. The goals against Dalls were ugly but did you see some of the saves. I tend to agree with J.T. and that Brodeur is a goalie who has mastered all that can be mastered as a goalkeeper. He needs a heavy dose of traffic and shots fired from all directions. He is also somewhat vulnerable it seems this year and last down low. He used to have lightning fast feet but it only makes sense that they would be the first to go as a goalie ages.

  30. Cable Guy says:

    As much as this will be a hard ass game to win imagine if we do. Imagine if Price outplays Broduer. It would be like Broduer passing the torch to Price.

  31. ebk says:

    just readjust your hab goggles and say repeatedly…
    Brodeur sucks, Brodeur sucks, Brodeur sucks

    eventually you might believe it too.

  32. snowdonsteve says:

    Yep… Brodeur’s a real choker… 2-3 stanley cups, olympic medals… i dunno… that’s not what i call a choker !!! More regular seasons wins then montreal last 5 golies put together !!! i hate the devils almost has much has i hate the leafs but please Martin F. Brodeur is far from a choker. i migth have a bad game every two-three month… but that’s rarely against the habs

    Brodeur’s always all pumped up by the montreal media … i think that’s why he performs so well against the habs!

    i hope we win… but i also hope that i don’t fall asleep due to a left wing lock showdown !!!

    Go Habs Go

  33. RetroMikey says:

    3-0 Habs

    Price gets his first shutout!

    “We will win the Cup only with Carey Price in the nets”

  34. Ali says:

    i hate Martin F. Brodeur, but I have Brian F. Gionta in my pool, so if the habs lose, it better be because he has a good night!

  35. Ibleedbleublancetrouge. says:

    I knew the moment we started talking plus/minuses Sheldon Souray’s name was going to come up.

  36. Ibleedbleublancetrouge. says:

    There it is, Thanks Dan.

  37. Vecs says:

    I hope that stat is misleadng. Markov didn’t look like his usual self against he leafs. He made some nice plays but he also made a couple sheldonesque plays. The entire habs D looked flat footed. Hopefully it was just the crap ice at the ACC.

  38. Mike Boone says:

    I’m with you, krob. Markov plays big minutes and is always out there against the opposition’s top forwards (at least if Carbonneau can arrange it that way). The stat is misleading. Top plus-minus defenceman in the league this season is Bruce Salvadore of St. Louis. He’s plus-14 … and I’ve never heard of him. Nicklas Lidstrom, who’s great, is plus-13, tied with Doug Murray of San Jose and Filip Kuba of Tampa bay, neither of whom will be Norris finalists. We’ll see Karel Rachunek, who is plus-12, tonight in NJ. Stéphane Robidas is plus-9 and the immobile stiff Derian Hatcher is plus-8.
    O the other hand, larry Robinson was career plus-730. (Bobby Orr is second at plus-597). In 1976-’77, Robinson was plus-120.
    Of course, his supporting cast was a bit better than Markov’s.

  39. Les-Habitants says:

    I just got back my voice from the game against toronto, lol!!
    Geez, whats wrong with winning a game in a blow-out??? Remember those games, they were fun to watch too….not that it’s likely to happen against Martin “I own the Habs” Brodeur.

    Still, if we haven’t won in such a long time we’re due….right?

  40. von says:

    Just helping out some of our fellow/slower posters haha

    It’s ok guys, it’s friday right 😉

  41. KamiDave says:

    FYI to the webmaster;

    When I initially clicked on this particular Eeemail, I received the following (it was part of the page)

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    As soon as I logged in though this went away.

  42. Mike Boone says:

    My fault. Small technical error when I wrote the piece and posted it.
    Since corrected.

  43. Plek-Andrew says:


    actually, there isn’t a whole lot to think about. I’ve always been anti-Brodeur cuz he lets in weaker goals than Jaroslav Halak does (OH I WENT THERE!!!) and I just think we’re gonna have a surprisingly good effort against the Devils. I really don’t see this as being a loss… nothing scares me.

    Talk about Brodeur all you want but when Latendresse scores a goal on him from the SIDE of the net, you guys might understand a little bit more of what I mean…

    I just hate Brodeur. I think he’s two-faced and chokes all the freakin time.

    Habs are winning it tonight. I’m expecting at least two defensemen to score tonight.

  44. The Teacher says:

    I hate Brodeur too, especially since he can’t seem to lose against the Habs.

    But he is DEFINITELY not a choker.., Methinks you are one with overblown expectations. How many NHL wins? (2nd in history at the moment) How many Stanley Cups? (1995, 2000, 2003) does a goalie need to have to be considered a ‘non-choker’?

    Admittedly, he benefited from strong defence. But then again, who’s to say Mr. Jacques Plante, and Mr George Vezina didn’t?

    As I recall, Mr Price and Mr. Huet have both let goals in from the side of the net as has every NHL goalie in the history of the game.

    You want to make an argument that Brodeur is a choker….


  45. JF says:

    If Markov – despite his recent -7 – is not playing tonight (according to RDS last night he was doubtful), our chances of winning are about nonexistent. Actually even with Markov, given the way we have been playing lately, they are about nonexistent.

  46. Rugger says:

    Habs 5-2 giving up first and last goals

  47. Lee_D says:

    I think that the only way we can win is if Price plays his best game of the year. And despite Brodeur’s five-game winning streak he let in two TERRIBLE goals against Dallas. Also, this will be the Habs’ first game at the Prudential Centre!

  48. J.T. says:

    While I have an abstract appreciation for Brodeur based purely on his numbers and status in the historical hierarchy of goaltenders, I have never liked him because he beats the Habs so often. I recently read his book and I like him less now. So, I’m going to fly in the face of logic and say tonight is the Habs’ night. Brodeur is an unventional goalie and tends to be beaten by unconventional shots. The trick is for the Habs to fire at him from every angle and on every chance they get. And if that fails, maybe Price is good enough to steal it for them. Maybe if I hope to be so, it will be so.

  49. yukonhab says:

    King Price will rule tonight…if anybody’s up to the challenge against Broduer it will be Price…plan to see Captain K lead his team to Victory.!

    Go HABS GO!!!

  50. Ron says:

    I agree with Plex-Andrew on this one. Even without Markov (hope he plays) I think we can crash the net and get a few and our speed should draw a few pens so the PP can kick in as well. Look for a good game from Chips and the boys. 4-2 Habs.

  51. Chuck says:

    A couple of good chances for us on the PK.

    “Vote Saku for All-Star… or little Timmy gets it!!!”

  52. Chuck says:

    Hey… did I just see Brisebois give a little shove?!

    “Vote Saku for All-Star… or little Timmy gets it!!!”

  53. Moey says:

    Another Higgy special…..

  54. P St. Pierre says:

    Zach F. Parise…

  55. Moey says:

    The Breezers’ in for it now.

  56. Ed says:

    That goal was a perfect example where you can’t blame all players on the ice for being a -1.

  57. Chuck says:

    Damn… that was a nice move to go 5-hole. Sucks giving up a late period goal, especially having out-played NJ in the period.

    “Vote Saku for All-Star… or little Timmy gets it!!!”

  58. teamplayer says:

    wow what speed parise has over brisebois… damn five-hole

  59. Chuck says:

    The one drawback about being a taller goaltender: you have a bigger 5-hole.

    “Vote Saku for All-Star… or little Timmy gets it!!!”

  60. Yeats says:

    Three Words: The Breezer Sucks!

  61. Chuck says:

    In all fairness, it was the Hammer’s crap pass that started it all.

    “Vote Saku for All-Star… or little Timmy gets it!!!”

  62. J.T. says:

    Notes on the first:

    Latendresse hasn’t looked like the ugly duckling on the first line. In fact, he might be fitting in too well…they’re still scary in their own zone.

    Can Johnny Oduya’s nickname be “I hardly?”

    Even if the Habs didn’t score on the PPs they had, they’re screwing up the Devils’ rhythm and making their defensive guys work really hard, which’ll pay off later on.

    I’m afraid Chris Higgins will be forever childless because he has that little finish.

    And speaking of Higgins…if Koivu had a finisher on his line, he’d be able to cash in his assist totals for a free flight.

    It’s funny how the Devils have won so many recently, but they look like kindergartens next to a team we’ve all been crapping on for their weaknesses lately. Is it the difference in styles between divisions, or are our Habs not that bad after all?

  63. JF says:

    With the exception of Brisebois’ gaffe at the end, this is the best the Habs have played possibly since the Saturday afternoon game against Ottawa. They dominated in every aspect of the game – shots, puck-control, faceoffs. But they’re down a goal. They must be asking themselves what they have to do to score on Brodeur. I just hope they can pour it on as strong the next two periods and don’t come out flattened by the late goal. Too bad the turnover was to Parise; Price might have stopped anyone else.

  64. MathMan says:

    Habs grossly dominate and end the period 1-0.

    This is oddly familiar. Happened all the time last year. At some point you realize hard work gets punished by defeat.

    I’m gonna start thinking these guys are cursed. Maybe they need to draft for luck.

  65. Yeats says:

    Well, if Zach Parise were a Hab, he’d be marinating down on Hamilton until he developed that old and mellow taste!

  66. P St. Pierre says:

    Well, the first period wasn’t as slow as I thought it would be. Unfortunately, the team enjoying the excitment the most was the NJ Devils. Parise made a really great play on that Brisebois error.

    The first two lines look really good tonight. You can really tell that Saku Koivu has picked up his game of late and if Higgins could finish any of those passes, my confidence in the line would be much higher.

    Hopefully the Habs come out in the second even more motivated, because other than that miscue, they outplayed the Devils. Without Brodeur, the Habs would have a 3-1 lead.

  67. MathMan says:

    Funny, considering Montreal has at least three players younger than Parise on the ice tonight.

  68. Ed says:

    There has to be something wrong with Markov. He played only 4:48 in the first. Ten players had more ice time.

  69. Yeats says:

    And, they’ve accomplished what?

  70. P St. Pierre says:

    That Ryder pass to Streit was kind of scarey.

  71. Chuck says:

    Considering his passing ability, are there any guesses as to how many assists Carey Price will get in his career?

    “Vote Saku for All-Star… or little Timmy gets it!!!”

  72. MathMan says:

    Latendresse had 16 goals in his rookie season, Chipchura has already been promoted to the third line, and Carey Price, well, 6-1-2 is it?

  73. JasonM says:

    No surprise that their arena is half full and quiet, I’m already on my 3rd coffee, talk about BORING HOCKEY.

  74. Chuck says:

    They’re playing well. It would be nice to see them pot one soon, though.

    “Vote Saku for All-Star… or little Timmy gets it!!!”

  75. Chuck says:

    Hahaha… Price hooked like Denis Herron on that play!

    “Vote Saku for All-Star… or little Timmy gets it!!!”

  76. P St. Pierre says:

    Price and Komisarek need to start talking…maybe they should room together.

  77. P St. Pierre says:

    Latendresse shouldn’t give up shooting altogether. But he does look good out there. Gui Gui Gui just seems more dominanting than Ryder.

  78. The Teacher says:

    hehe yeah…but that will come with time and games played..the communication will

  79. Chuck says:

    Good… considering that they didn’t call the goaltender interference about 30 seconds earlier.

    “Vote Saku for All-Star… or little Timmy gets it!!!”

  80. Yeats says:

    Don’t you mean Les Binkley?

  81. Chuck says:

    Those acting lessons have been working out well for Brodeur.

    “Vote Saku for All-Star… or little Timmy gets it!!!”

  82. Kevin says:

    Carbo neeeds to change up the PP lines!

  83. Ali says:

    Parise and Higgins are very similar players with one big difference, Parise doesnt miss often, and Higgins does.

  84. Chuck says:

    Who was supposed to have Parise on that one?!

    “Vote Saku for All-Star… or little Timmy gets it!!!”

  85. P St. Pierre says:

    Zach F. Parise again…

  86. MathMan says:

    Well that sucked.

    Montreal by far the better team on the ice tonight. The Devils do not deserve any kind of lead, let alone a 2-goal lead, but Montreal just cannot buy a goal. They really ought to draft for luck, or maybe just goal-scoring.

    But for Montreal, this season, hard work –> defeat way too often.

  87. The Teacher says:

    yup, dominated florida, lost, dominated ottawa, lost..dominating new jersey…the jury is still out on that one.

    Just like Komi was out to lunch on that one

  88. P St. Pierre says:

    I wish Carbonneau would leave the lines alone. They were just starting to mesh.

  89. Chuck says:

    If they expect to score, they’re going to have to shoot more. 4 shots in a period ain’t gonna cut it. Do that again in the third, and you’re going to give Brodeur one of his easiest shutouts ever. At least make him earn in!

    “Vote Saku for All-Star… or little Timmy gets it!!!”

  90. Kevin says:

    He should leave the even strength lines alone, and change up the PP sometimes. By that, I mean playing Koivu and Kovalev together when things aren’t working.

  91. Chuck says:

    Not sure why you would move Latandresse off the first line, considering the great effort that he’s given tonight.

    “Vote Saku for All-Star… or little Timmy gets it!!!”

  92. Yeats says:

    Pitching a shutout is a tall order for any goalie. With the exception of the second line, we have pretty much no one with any hands on this team. Is there anyone on Hamilton who can put the puck in the net?

  93. Chuck says:

    Perhaps he’s in the doghouse for mishandling that 3-on-1.

    “Vote Saku for All-Star… or little Timmy gets it!!!”

  94. showey47 says:

    2P 6:50: First Dandenault loses his stick.
    Then Price gives up a fat, Aebischerian rebound on a Brian Gionat shot.
    Then Zach F. Parise makes no mistake
    Insurmountable? I fear so.

    where was the dman in front of the net? Carey is being left out to dry.

  95. Exit716 says:

    Latendresse played well on the top line
    It’s Higgins now that’s slowing things down.
    Is Kostistyn the Belarussian Oleg Petrov?
    Please shoot the puck once in a while kid.

  96. Yeats says:

    1.) Lats had 16 goals in his rookie season, but has looked pretty much lost for most of this year.

    2.) Promotion to the third line on this team? Not what I would call a giant step to seeing your jersey in the rafters.

    3.) Price has played well and you can’t fault him for tonight. Also, he beat the Leafs twice, so you have me on that one.

  97. Yeats says:

    I think you’ve made the point before that when our forwards move their feet, the opposition has to haul them down and take penalties. We haven’t really done that tonight. And, if the other team can skate 5 on 5 with us, we’re pretty much screwed. I have know magic solution to our problem, but our offense is just plain awful.

  98. Chuck says:

    You could say that our offense is offensive.

    “Vote Saku for All-Star… or little Timmy gets it!!!”

  99. Yeats says:

    No, no you can’t! LOL

  100. showey47 says:

    we did it for a good part of the first, but the second looked like we had a severe case of latendressitis

  101. Kevin says:

    Gotta love Higgins for effort and skill. But I’m starting to think that maybe he’s not snake bit… maybe he just can’t finnish. Although the second line has been great and shouldn’t be broken up, I keep wondering if the finnish Kovalev has shown this year would have yielded a lot more goals if he were playing with Koivu. Maybe even if its just during PP…

  102. Chuck says:

    Perhaps Boone could mention that Brodeur is going for a shutout and jinx him. Hey, it works against our guys…

    “Vote Saku for All-Star… or little Timmy gets it!!!”

  103. Erik says:

    How about bringing up Sergei Kostityn and Maxim Lapiere.

  104. fun police says:

    hopefully the habs shorten the bench a little in the third. wait a second, what am i thinking…it’s carbo. dandenault and begin will be on with 2 minutes left in the game. we are the only team that rolls four lines like a peewee houseleague team. don’t tell me it will pay off in february, we need two points tonight. a victory puts the devils one point back.

  105. Chuck says:

    7 even-strength shots through 2 periods. Not cool.

    “Vote Saku for All-Star… or little Timmy gets it!!!”

  106. showey47 says:

    Lats has showed alot of strentgh along he boards tonight, its too bad he skates at the speed of smell. I wish the hell carbo would leave the lines alone for one game, lats had one bad play and he’s back on the fourth line. If carbo took this stance on all his players, breezer would never play at all. How is lats supposed to develop his game or confidence if he is constantly being shifted in the lineup

  107. J.T. says:

    I think that’s generous. According to people in my house who’ve worn diapers, smell travels pretty darn fast.

  108. FastRonnie says:

    OK, everybody post the following:

    “It looks like Brodeur is gonna get a shutout!”

    Let’s see what happens…

  109. Kevin says:

    I don’t think any amount of jinx will stop Brodeur from getting a shutout… maybe Kovalev can?

  110. showey47 says:

    your probably right, he could very well be passed by a kite

  111. Yeats says:

    We’re down by two. Screw D. Let’s really see what the kid can do. Four and, if need be five, men on the attack. Pickup hockey rules!!!

  112. Chuck says:

    Hey… a shot on goal! Granted, it was from 40 feet out.

    “Vote Saku for All-Star… or little Timmy gets it!!!”

  113. Yeats says:

    Let’s just cycle the Devils into submission!

  114. Ed says:

    Here goes Carbonneau changing the lines again. I believe Latendresse is working hard out there, and is doing the job he was supposed to do on that Koivu line.

    After 2 periods, the Devils are outhitting the Canadiens 8-2, with Komisarek having the 2 hits for the Habs. The shots are 21-19 for the Canadiens, but that is changing quickly. New Jersey caught up quickly in the 2nd. The shots by line are:

    Koivu line 1: Koivu 1; Higgins 0; Latendresse 0
    Plekanec line 6: – Kovalev 4; Plekanec and Kostitsyn 1 each
    Chipchura line 4: Ryder 2; Chipchura and Dandenault 1 each
    Begin line 2: Begin 1; Kostopolous 1; Smolinski 0

    Ryder has the least ice time with 5:29, with 29 seconds on the power play.

    Our Canadiens should be well rested for Nashville tomorrow night.

  115. Yeats says:

    Lats has no moves and gets a penalty. Now, remind me, why is he playing in the NHL?

  116. The Teacher says:


  117. Yeats says:

    Lats is truely the man!!!

  118. Yeats says:

    Truth be told, Lats would be an average player at best in NCAA D-1.

  119. Chuck says:

    How can a penalty be retroactive?!

    “Vote Saku for All-Star… or little Timmy gets it!!!”

  120. showey47 says:

    wow, am i seeing this right 2 double minor penalties?

  121. The Teacher says:

    Man…everytime these refs call these penalties..I think back to Komi getted carved up by Sundin with no call..what a joke it can be…

  122. showey47 says:

    highsticking penalties that draw blood if saw by a lineman can be called after the fact.

  123. Chuck says:

    Definitely a Kovalev-ian shot on that one.

    “Vote Saku for All-Star… or little Timmy gets it!!!”

  124. Yeats says:

    Parise has just turned Price into his personal hockey bitch!

  125. MathMan says:

    THis is a joke right?

    They gave NJ a FOUR MINUTE FIVE-ON-THREE? On the same play?

    This is a real joke.

    Montreal deserved a better fate, this is just insult to injury.

  126. Keith says:

    Well that’s it game over. It took forever for them to call it. 5 on 3 for four minutes. I knew it ! DAMNNIT!!

  127. Chuck says:

    Does the home team not get a delay-of-game penalty for the hats on the ice?

    “Vote Saku for All-Star… or little Timmy gets it!!!”

  128. DYCSoccer17 says:

    I hate to complain about reffing, but Lats’ high stick was on a follow-through of a shot. The puck was stick checked in the process of shooting and he should not be held responsible for that.

  129. yathehabsrule says:

    So many hats, yet so few fans in the stands!

  130. Yeats says:

    Only if Parise goes over and shakes the Habs hands!

  131. Yeats says:

    To be fair, that was a “mercy killing.”

  132. Bill says:

    I’m sure that the fact that the Habs’ PP is (usually!) so good makes the refs a little more careful about calling penalties against them, and at the same time more eager to make the even-up call. Deep down, the refs are still worried about overly affecting the game. Hence the non-call against SUndin (yes, a joke) and hence this rare four-minute 5-on-3, which effectively ends the game for the Habs.

    Not that we can entirely blame the refs … 7 even-strength shots? Oh man, that is weak.

    And the Devils score again to make it 4-0, this is offically a blow-out.

  133. Chuck says:

    The problem with taking forever to call the high stick it that it literally gives the player time to cut himself before the ref checks him out.

    “Vote Saku for All-Star… or little Timmy gets it!!!”

  134. Chuck says:

    Man, Komisarek really blew the coverage on that last goal! Again, Carey with no chance on that one.

    “Vote Saku for All-Star… or little Timmy gets it!!!”

  135. mrstewart61 says:

    Lats still is responsible. However, if Chipchura was being penalized, the play should have been called as soon as Montreal touched the puck, therefore, Latendresse never should have had the opportunity to high-stick anyone. Stupid job by the refs!!!

  136. NLhabsfan says:

    Great calls…in all my years I have never seen two clled for 4 straight min like that on TWO players at once..Crap call.Thanks refs. Aren’t we all loving this new NHL!!

  137. MathMan says:

    Well, this game has been a joke.

    Devils really deserve almost no credit. Montreal deserved a better fate even before that joke of a 5-on-3.

    There’s some karmic wheel somewhere that punishes Montreal whenever they show intensity. It was in evidence last year, and it seems it’s coming back this year.

    And look, MTL PP? Refs, you cannot give make-up calls for that debacle.

  138. Yeats says:

    Five men up front, what have you got to lose? If you’re going down, go down like men. Create a modicum of offensive excitement!

  139. Bill says:

    Oh, isn’t that nice of the refs to call a penalty against the Devils. Yes, that nicely makes up for ruining the entire game. Where do they find these boobs?

  140. Bill says:

    Oh well, who are the Habs playing tomorrow night? :)

  141. showey47 says:

    where the majority of nhl refs come from, ontario. I think its about 40%

  142. DYCSoccer17 says:

    While I agree that there should only have been 1 penalty on Chips, a player is definitely not held responsible for his stick during the follow-through of a shot (read the italicized paragraph immediately below the photo):

  143. Chuck says:

    Don’t you just love it when the guys in the stripes have so much to do with the outcome of a game?

    “Vote Saku for All-Star… or little Timmy gets it!!!”

  144. Moey says:

    Crap boys, just get one, don’t give F. Martin Brodeur a shutout.

  145. whitecat10 says:

    can’t deny it Brodeur is a friggin wall. And I agree with Mike that goal turned the game around …sucks. I’d be happy with just one goal right now.

  146. Ibleedbleublancetrouge. says:

    I’ve just checked e-bay, and there is nowhere to buy a goal.

  147. Chuck says:

    Ugh. Price certainly deserved better.

    “Vote Saku for All-Star… or little Timmy gets it!!!”

  148. whitecat10 says:

    I wholeheartedly agree :(

  149. Yeats says:

    You’re right. Unless, he decided to join the rush tonight, he was just screwed!

  150. Moey says:


    C’mon now, you’ve been waiting for this, hang the Breezer out to dry. It’s coming folks…wait for it.

  151. Chuck says:

    Hang him out to dry if you want, but it doesn’t change the fact that Hammer’s pass was a wobbly piece of crap.

    “Vote Saku for All-Star… or little Timmy gets it!!!”

  152. Kevin says:

    I remember someone here wanted to see Price get shelled to gauge how he bounces back… i guess that night was tonight!

  153. doug says:

    that was boone, the price apologist. let’s see what he’s like in a few years. . . i think it’s laughable that anyone would think about him being our starter right now. nothing against him. . . he’s a kid, though, so let’s can it.

    i’m hoping boone can say something negative about his golden child now. wasn’t his loss alone but he let in most of the close chances they had – brodeur on the other hand completely stoned us in the first until they could get their first goal five hole

  154. Chuck says:

    He was shelled, but he played another good game. He really looks like he belongs. Unfoetunately, there’s only so much you can do when you don’t get any defensive support.

    “Vote Saku for All-Star… or little Timmy gets it!!!”

  155. whitecat10 says:

    “The Boone jinx”

    unjinx us Mike Lol

  156. showey47 says:

    where does carbo come up with these line combos?

  157. J.T. says:

    In the can, while he’s reading National Geographic.

  158. whitecat10 says:

    LMFAO that was great !!!

  159. doug says:

    carey price the second coming?

    maybe decent, mr. boone, but your favorite topic ain’t no 35 year old brodeur. can we can the huet trade talk? brodeur stole this one through two periods and then they poured it on in the b.s. 5 on 3 stuff in the 3rd.

  160. The Teacher says:

    Hey Plek-Andrew,

    Is Brodeur still a choker?

    just checking…


  161. Erik says:

    This is BULLSHIT!!!!
    And to think that scumbag Lou Lamourello was on our ice the other week. Larry ‘TRAITOR” Robinson why did we have that ceremony for him.

  162. showey47 says:

    brodeur stole it in the first and breezer added insult to injury. There is nothing more demoralizing than outplaying your opposition, then giving up a goal late in a period. Especially a pathetic turnover type like that one.

  163. likehoy says:

    This was the best game ever.

    Wake up call, a little?

    We needed to bounce back, and we collapsed as a team.

  164. moser17 says:

    Like my dad used to say: You can’t win if you don’t score.

  165. doug says:

    for the record, we played a great game through two and then got slammed by the 5 on 3. winning in jersey is REALLY tough for the habs, and brodeur is truly frustrating to watch, as is their entire defensive schema.

    as for the canadiens playing poorly and showing no heart. . . would you guys jump off the bandwagon again or take your damn anti-anxiety (and anti-psychotic) medications. the habs played really well in the first and well enough overall to win the game.

    i don’t know if it’s more frustrating to watch the canadiens play against the new jersey trap devils or to read bylines from you folks as if a close relative was murdered by the canadiens.

    the “pathetic pussy score”: habsinsideout posters 10, canadiens 0

  166. Yeats says:

    He’s no longer the Breezer, he’s the iceberg. After his miscue late in he first, it was just a matter of time before the R.M.S. Habs went to the bottom. Don’t blame the refs. Down 2-0 going into the third against the Devils, there was no way in hell they were coming back. Not with the offensive threats that are Higgins, Koivu, Ryder and Lats. Head out early tomorrow morning and get your collectors’ milk cartons featuring our missing offense!

  167. Moey says:

    LOL… and we were so upset that the boys didn’t win one for the big bird, well, no tears in Larry’s eyes tonight..remember folks, it is a business.

    At least when we hoist Gainey’s sweater, he’s on our team. And I hope that if or when the day comes to hoist Roy’s that he’s with us.

  168. Erik says:

    SERGEI KOSTITSYN!!!!!!!!!!!! NOW!!!!!!!!!!!!
    Bobs in Hamilton so maybe he’ll be in for the Game Vs Nashville.

    We can HOPE!!!!

  169. showey47 says:

    breezer will definatley be in the pressbox tomorrow night, he should be visiting his gynecologist tomorrow because he is one serious p@%%y, pardon the language boys and girls

  170. Keith says:

    We are Jersey’s prison bitch, 9 consecutive victories over the Habs. Brodeur’s 8th shutout I believe. We deserved a better fate but we are cursed against this team beyond belief. Oh, and the refs really blew it as well, but I don’t blame them completely. They only compounded things and put the game out of reach. I just hope they bounce back against the Preds tomorrow night.

  171. Yeats says:

    Let’s all conjugate the verb to suck:

    I suck.
    You suck.
    He/she/it sucks.

    We suck.
    You (pl) suck.
    They suck.

    Yes, they do!!!

  172. Yeats says:

    Four fourth lines? Lafleur is really charitable in his assessment of offensive talent!

  173. Erik says:

    Smolinski in the press box and Kosty sergei with the big club. This team could use the scoring punch What the heck it’s worth a try after tonight and really not just tonight those two buffalo games the ottawa game. After the Ottawa game people may were like oh well their the Ottawa senators well guess what look at them now look at all the teams that have beat them isles leafs preds pens flyers

  174. whitecat10 says:

    Very well said. And I agree.

  175. Moey says:


    Are you getting all bitter and twisted?

  176. Erik says:

    Also about the robinson ceremony how about not retiring their number if they are associated with ANOTHER team not only that but to have their president / ceo /gm/ koolaid man Lou Lammourello at the ceremony is not neede geeeeeeez and another thing how about not retiring Patrick Roys number after the crap he pulled. be a TEAM player

  177. Chuck says:

    Can’t really blame the Habs. I can’t think of ANYTHING that I’d like to do in New Jersey, much less play hockey there.

    “Vote Saku for All-Star… or little Timmy gets it!!!”

  178. Ed says:

    With Carbonneau’s line combinations, it is really much more than 4 fourth lines. He must think he is playing the lottery, what with all those combinations. How many lines can you get from 12 players? For the correct answer, ask Carbonneau.

  179. Chuck says:

    Run-on sentences suck.

    “Vote Saku for All-Star… or little Timmy gets it!!!”

  180. showey47 says:

    i guess one good things is that they are back at it tomorrow night and won’t have much time to think about this one. I am ever so curious about bob being in hamilton tonight though

  181. showey47 says:

    dogs getting beat also 4-0 tonight, bad night for us all around

  182. Chuck says:

    The golden rule of sports: In a third of your games, no matter how well you play, the other team will play better and beat you. In another third of your games, no matter how bad you suck, the other team will suck worse and lose. It’s how you handle the final third of your games that determines how successful you are.

    “Vote Saku for All-Star… or little Timmy gets it!!!”

  183. Yeats says:

    Bitter and Twisted was a great solo effort from Roger Daltrey that very few people remember. Good one. No, the Sens are having problems as well and so are the Swords. I realize like most rational individuals that this is the regular season and the goal is to make it to the playoffs healthy. Then all bets are off. How many President’s Trophy winners ever win the only hardware that matters? It’s just so painful getting there. I realize that tonight’s game against the Devils wasn’t Game 7 of the finals, but it’s the only game I was interested in, although I’ll probably find an NCAA D-1 game to watch. I think what drives me absolutely nuts is that, crap, we’re the Flying Frenchmen and the guys who are charged with leading the charge would have a hard time getting folks to join in a silent prayer. For all the shit they give poor Ryder, Koivu is MIA and Higgins couldn’t find the net with a radar. Lats just isn’t ready for the N and I’d be surprised as hell if he was an impact player in the A. In answer to your original question, in a word, no.

  184. Cable Guy says:

    This is a huge wakeup call and yes we ARE 4 lines of 4th liners. We can’t muster anything, we should have got 2 goals in the first period. We either need to make a trade or call up some young blood from Hamilton because this is getting embarrasing. We’ll lose tomorrow too i just know it. How many more years till Broduer retires anyway?

  185. Yeats says:

    Just think of them as the English equivalent of cycling!

  186. Chuck says:

    The good news: we don’t have to play New Jersey 8 times this year. :)

    “Vote Saku for All-Star… or little Timmy gets it!!!”

  187. Ibleedbleublancetrouge. says:

    haha. oh chuck.

  188. Chuck says:


    “Vote Saku for All-Star… or little Timmy gets it!!!”

  189. Yeats says:

    The only problem is that the whole Buffalo thing isn’t workin’ either.

  190. Ed says:

    Somebody suggested bringing up help from the farm team. Unfortunately, they were also shut out tonight by Philadelphia 3-0. The oddity about that game is that all players, except for three, were -1 or worse.

    Will Ryder soon sit out a game? Tonight he had the lowest total of all players on both teams at 8:57. Everybody else was over 10:00, even Aaron Asham who was over 11:00. Ryder saw 29 seconds on the PP, so effectively he was not used there. Most forwards on the PP had about 5:00, while Smolinski had 1:25.

    Final shots were 29-27 for the Devils. The Habs line totals were:
    #1 1 shot – Koivu 1; Higgins and Latendresse none
    #2 7 shots – Kovalev 5; Plekanec & Kostitsyn 1 each
    #3 5 shots – Chipchura & Ryder 2 each; Dandenault 1
    #4 4 shots – Begin 3; Kostopoulos 1; Smolinski 0

  191. Ibleedbleublancetrouge. says:

    what to do, what to do…

  192. Zaskar says:

    Would someone please explain to me the line juggling. Except for the late game defensive manouevres to hold a lead I really don’t get it.

  193. Moey says:

    I agree, that first line is something (not) to be desired. If I see Higgins bungling that puck one more time I’m going to scream. Actually I was screaming tonight, don’t pass it to him!! I couldn’t believe that Carbo used him on the shootout with Toronto. I would have gone with Komi..I don’t know what’s wrong with our boys, they looked great in the first, but don’t tell me one goal turned the game around. Bulls@it of the highest order. If that were true, how could we have possibly won the cup in ’93.

  194. Yeats says:

    From the rock opera “Carbo:”

    If your forwards ain’t all they should be now
    This girl will put them right.
    I’ll show them what they could be now
    Just give me one night.
    I’m the gypsy – the scoring queen.
    Pay before we start.
    I’m the gypsy – the scoring queen.
    Let’s tear that net apart.

    Give us some ice and close the door
    Leave us for a while.
    Your wings won’t be inept no more
    Young, but not a child.
    I’m the gypsy – the scoring queen.
    Pay before we start.
    I’m the gypsy the scoring queen.
    Let’s tear that net apart.

    The Hell with your system and hold on fast,
    Your mind must learn to roam.
    Just as the scoring queen must do
    You’re cycling’s got to hit the road.

    My work is done now look at them
    They’ve never been more alive.
    Their heads they shake their fingers clutch.
    Watch their wrist shots writhe
    I’m the gypsy – the scoring queen.
    Pay before we start.
    I’m the gypsy – i’m guaranteed.
    To break that net apart.

  195. showey47 says:

    so, more shots for the bottom 2 lines than the top 2 lines and the bottom 2 get no powerplay time?

  196. Chuck says:

    Hmmm… how many one-shot nights have the 1st line now had? Perhaps Carbo should collectively demote them to the 2nd line.

    “Vote Saku for All-Star… or little Timmy gets it!!!”

  197. Yeats says:

    The problem is that they’re just not the Habs of ’86 or ’93. The ’86 squad with eight rookies in the lineup would wax these guys, even without Roy. The ’93 team would as well. I also would have put Komisarek on the line in TO. I am just sick and tired of seeing such ineptitude on offense. That’s the fun part of the game. We all grow up loving scoring. Hell, even the guys who end up playing D like to join the rush. I’m just scratching my head. How did we go from the Flying Frenchmen to what we are today. I’d rather lose 7-6 and know that my D has problems than what we saw tonight. OK, the leafs suck, but damn do they have offense. I’d take Tucker or Sundin in a heartbeat!

  198. Moey says:

    I know what you’re saying, but considering this team has been in a mess since ’95 it is a rebuilding process. Yeah, I hate those words too, it’s been fifteen years, far too long, but we are building from the goaltending out. Patience my friend, we need a big scoring center, Saku has knocked himself out for years, it’s not fair. He needs help. Higgins has great intentions and loads of heart, he’ll get there. But what happens in the meantime?? Any trade suggestions? I don’t want to put my hoof in my moutn.

  199. Naila Jinnah says:

    Very nice!
    Are you sure you don’t write for Broadway?

  200. Yeats says:

    No, I’m just pretty good at altering established lyrics. Just wait till I get really pissed at these guys. I feel it’s coming for sure! I might, just for fun, start working on “We Won’t Get Houled Again.” That could be a true classic!

  201. Yeats says:

    The problem is there are no magic-bullet solutions to the teams problems, especially in the new salary cap era. At the very least, however, as fans we should be able to count on effort each and every night. If Higgins or whoever the designated spokesman is comes out and says, we have to come to play for the full 60 minutes one more time, I’m going to ralph in a bag and send it to the Habs’ offices.

  202. howtathor says:

    Nice one Yeats errr Townsend…I think quite a few of our boys could use some time with the scoring queen. Tommy R. Higgins, Tommy R. Ryder, Tommy R. Latendresse etc…

  203. The Teacher says:

    BREEZER SUCKS. He is solely responsible for Hamrlik’s play sliding a little.

  204. showey47 says:

    well then he should either double flush or light a scented candle cause he sure does stink in there

  205. J.T. says:

    He tried the candle thing before…but it burned up all his good ideas.

  206. Naila Jinnah says:

    oooh burn!

  207. Chuck says:

    First goal was on a breakaway with a move that Brodeur would have opened his 5-hole for. Another was a world-class wrist shot from short range up under the crossbar; a Kovalev-type shot that would be described as unstoppabble if Kovy was the one taking the shot. The other two were in open nets because the defense completely blew their coverage and left the Devil players all alone. Not really a whole lot to blame Price about tonight.

    “Vote Saku for All-Star… or little Timmy gets it!!!”

  208. Mike Boone says:

    Hmmmm … okay, I’ve come up with something negative because it’s been a long night and I don’t want Doug to go to bed angry.
    Price wasn’t great on the Gionta goal.
    The others?
    Brodeur didn’t face any breakaways. And the Canadiens’ PPs didn’t produce any chances like the ones Parise cashed.
    So I’m still on the Price bandwagon. They’ve got other, more pressing problems.

  209. Bill says:

    He wasn’t bad on the Gionta goal. Most of this was just bad luck, bad timing. If Breezy handles the pass, it’s a different game. If the Habs cash some PP chances, it’s a different game. If the Habs aren’t facing the immortal Brodeur, who is magic against the Habs, it’s a different game. This was just not the Habs’ night, it’s actually hard to get upset about it.

    In a perfect world, you’d like to see your goalie go beyond being simply solid and really steal a goal or two off the opposition’s stick, the way Brodeur has routinely (though not tonight) done to the Habs. Maybe Price gets to that point someday.

  210. showey47 says:

    dogs lose 6-0, ouch

  211. Chuck says:

    …”Get him to move or shoot high glove”.

    That’s the book on EVERY goaltender!

    “Vote Saku for All-Star… or little Timmy gets it!!!”

  212. ebk says:

    think this highlights the teams trouble at even strength

    Goals scored at even strength after 25 games
    Kovalev 4
    Higgins 4
    Latendresse 4
    Plekanec 3
    Begin 3
    Chipchura 2
    Dandenault 2
    Kostitsyn 2
    Ryder 2
    Komisarek 2
    Koivu 1
    Grabovski 1
    Markov 1
    Hamrlik 1
    Smolinski 0
    Kostopoulous 0
    Brisebois 0
    Streit 0
    Bouillon 0

    Gets even nastier when you consider that both Hamrlik and Koivu scored their only goal at even strength while the Habs had an extra attacker in a delayed penalty situation.

  213. Will Longlade says:

    Is it possible that Higgy jinxed himself with that talk about being a 40 goal man? He hasn’t played well since that newspaper article came out. If he buries that good scoring chance he had in the first period, Montreal could have maintained the momentum and the whole complexion of the game would have changed.

    We can only hope that B.G. is in Hamilton to address the Hab’s recent defensive woes and the decline in the team’s energy level. I think the Hab’s brass realize that some changes are needed to prevent a repeat of last year’s precipitous decline. Montreal has played like a tired team lately. I wouldn’t mind seeing OB or Lapierre in the line-up.

  214. Chuck says:

    Perhaps Bob went to Hamilton to personally accompany them to the Bell Centre.

    “Vote Saku for All-Star… or little Timmy gets it!!!”

  215. The Ian Cobb says:

    I would like to post something realy great and inspireing, well here goes. Lets start with 60 min. of hockey, thats 1 hr. right, 10 shots on goal, 5 on 5. I have never seen such a show of pure power before in this league.

    Mother always told us, if you don’t have anything nice to say, don’t say anything at all.

    So good night all you hab fans, the sun will come up in the morning.

  216. Yeats says:

    Ian: It could have been worse. We could have gotten our asses handed to ourselves in New Jersey!

  217. Yeats says:

    Bob went to Hamilton to see how our prospects are marinating. With such an offensive talent as Lats on board, why would you want to bring anyone up?

  218. Y says:

    Glad I slept through this one. Funny how the names I mentioned in the preview post all scored, contrary to what I believed.

    I think I have some magical powers.

    So…tomorrow, Radek Bonk will score 3 and Mason will pitch a shutout.

    Hope this works!

  219. The Ian Cobb says:

    Hi Yeats’— I Am finding it very difficult to sit through this type of a proformance. I don’t mind a loss if we at least got off our asses, but this type of hockey is not exeptable. Toe will not sleep well this night>

  220. Yeats says:

    Ian, our offense is just simply dreadful, no I mean woeful, no i mean awful. There are no excuses that will satisfy me. I am sick of this.

  221. Will Longlade says:

    Hey, I thought you were going to bed already.

  222. kevin m says:


    I would just like to echo your sentiments.

    This was an absolutely disgraceful effort. No team cohesion, no fire, no hitting…except with sticks. No one stood out on this team on this night. I think I even saw Brodeur joking with Kovalev about the gross ineptitude of this “Gang That Couldn’t Shoot Straight”.

    F@@#$%^&^$%^$#@@@###*&*&^%$##@#$@%@ pitiful b-ll$!!t.

    They should have to refund every fan 1/2 the ticket price, because only one team showed up tonight.

  223. Yeats says:

    Truth be told, we are much farther away from #25 than a lot of people think.

  224. kevin m says:

    We could probably make some noise if we had Lecavalier & UFA Redden.

  225. Yeats says:

    You are spot on my friend!

  226. Yeats says:

    Actually, I covet Ovechkin.

  227. kevin m says:

    I’m really tired & need to go to bed but I’m afraid that after seeing what I saw tonight I’m going to have nightmares!!!!!!!!!!

    I’ll give it a shot though.

  228. Mike Boone says:

    This RFA can be yours for a mere four first-round draft picks.
    Our operators are standing by to take your call.

  229. Yeats says:

    It’s much easier than that Mike. Do what they did to that U.S. Senator in Godfather II. Get George McPhee roofied leave him in a compromised state in a room and take pictures. Trust me, we’ll get Ovechkin for Lats and Ryder straight up!

  230. jimbo82 says:

    i hate the devils

  231. Yeats says:

    Is that you or the picture talking?

  232. Alex Leduc says:

    I think we are cursed in New Jersey. Last year Huet got injured in Jersey. Tonight was also evidence of a curse. We completely dominated in the first period and thanks to a stupid misplay by brisebois and some divine goaltending by brodeur the period somehow ended 1-0 Jersey. In the third, how the hell did the habs manage to get two 4-minute high sticking penalties in one play??? I’ll tell you how. The jersey curse. There i named it. Copyright 2007 Alex Leduc, All Rights Reserved.

  233. RJ says:

    Note to Bob: Please find us a FINISHER.

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