About this season …

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When the puck dropped to start the Canadiens season in Toronto, the players on the ice were Scott Gomez, Brian Gionta, Max Pacioretty, Chris Campoli, Josh Gorges and Carey Price.
When the siren sounded at the Bell Centre Saturday night, ending the 2011-’12 season, the players on ice were Tomas Plekanec, Louis Leblanc, Rene Bourque, Tomas Kaberle, Frédéric St. Denis and Peter Budaj.
Yeah, a lot happened between Oct. 6 and April 7.

The Canadiens lost 51 of their 82 games. They broke the hearts of many fans, and the season took its toll among coaches and front-office executives.

Perry Pearn, Jacques Martin, Pierre Gauthier and the Teflon Hall of Famer who doesn’t get nearly enough blame for the debacle: Bob Gainey.

The Canadiens have the third best chances of securing the top draft pick when the lottery draw is held Tuesday night. No matter what happens, they won’t pick lower than fourth.

The team will be represented at the lottery by Larry Carrière. A respected hockey man, Carrière began the season as assistant general manager, was shuffled down to the bench as an assistant coach and then moved back upstairs to assume a caretaker role until Geoff Molson and Serge Savard hire a new GM … which I think they’ll do in time for the draft.

Shall we review what went wrong?

• I think the season went sideways before it began.

Shortly after the annual golf tournament, where Gauthier ventured the prediction that Andrei Markov might miss the first few games of the season, the Canadiens embarked on a ridiculous exhibition schedule that included eight games in 12 nights and three sets of back-to-backers.

The rigors of the money-grabbing sked required Martin to keep a battalion of players in camp. The Canadiens had very little time for the likely season starters to get acquainted and learn each other’s dance moves.

So when the puck dropped in Toronto, Erik Cole was playing with David Desharnais and Mathieu Darche on the third line. The second line had Tomas Plekanec centring Andrei Kostitsyn and Mike Cammallery, while the fourt line consisted of Andreas Engqvist, Travis Moen and Yannick Weber.

The Canadiens dropped their opener to the Leafs, stomped the Jets on opening night in Winnipeg and then lost six in a row.

Even a subsequent four-game winning streak failed to calm the vague anxieties of fans who noted Markov was MIA, leaving a defence corps that included two NHL rookies, Raphael Diaz and Alexei Emelin.

Gomez nightmare slump continued – he would not score until Feb. 9 – and Martin stubbornly denied Cole power-play minutes. Mike Cammalleri, a sniper hopeless playing without the puck in his own zone, chafed under the requirements Martin’s defensive system. Kostitsyn was in a permanent fog; and with the exception of Moen, no one could fight.

So there were issues, right out of the gate.

Then there was home-ice disadvantage.

The Canadiens lost their first five games at the Bell Centre before beating the Flyers 5-1 on Oct 26. It was a sign of things to come; and by season’s end, the Canadiens had lost 26 of their 41 home games.

The Bell Centre had ceased to intimidate visitors. The building’s only effect was an epidemic of dry lips and tight grips among the occupants.

Up on the seventh floor, Gauthier was desperately making moves that might spark the team.

The general manager fired Pearn, the coach’s closest ally, as a shot across Martin’s bow. It didn’t work.

Gauthier fired Martin and entrusted a struggling team to a unilingual anglo with zero experience as an NHL head coach.

With no indication of when Markov might return, Gauthier traded for Tomas Kaberle. This briefly pepped up the power-play – which was a mess, what with the previous coach using Plekanec on the point and Darche up front – but the trade gave the Canadiens another contract to file, right after Gomez’s, as T for toxic.

Rather than wait until deadline to trade the malcontent, mouthy Cammalleri, Gauthier dealt him to Calgary for Rene Bourque. In explaining the move, Gauthier blithely announced a virage in the Canadiens’ philosophy.

Speed and skill – which Gainey naively believed would carry the Canadiens to glory under the NHL’s new rules – were all well and good, Gauthier said, but what a team really needed was grit. Most goals were scored, the GM said,  close to the net – dirty areas shunned by Cammalleri but accessible to a forward with size, like Bourque.

Sadly, Bourque – who had two 27-goal seasons in Calgary – couldn’t score from the drty areas, the clean areas or any area covered by ice. Bourque had a 15-game slump and finished the season with five goals in a Canadiens’ uniform to go along with the 13 he had scored in Calgary.

The Canadiens were slow starters and weak finishers in too many games. They blew leads and went 11-10-16 in games decided by one goal. They scored fewer goals than any other Eastern Conference team except Florida.

The Canadiens sucked in shootouts. Their 12 losses were the league low.

The power-play capitalized on 14.3 per cent of its opportunities – third worst in the league.

The penalty-kill was second-best, behind New Jersey, but that may have been from practice: The Canadiens’ 350 minors were exceeded only by Dallas and Philadelphia.

I’ve probably omitted about 15 other fiascos.

It was just one damn thing after another, all season long.

But it’s over.

And there were encouraging signs in the season finale:

• In addition to scoring his team-leading 35th goal, Erik Cole lay full out on the ice to block a shot … in a meaningless game. Give Gauthier his due for the Canadiens’ best UFA signing EVER. Cole never took a shift off, emerged as a leader in the room and scored five more goals than he ever had in his career.

Man, if he were 26 years old … mais bon.

• The fourth line was excellent against the Leafs. Brad Staubitz’s crazy rink-length empty-netter was his first point since the Canadiens claimed him off waivers at the deadline.

Know what? I think Brad Satubitz is going to be on the team next season. He isn’t Chris Neil, but close enough. And Staubitz is not a heavyweight, but he is a willing and skilled fighter.  Teams take fewer liberties around Carey Price with Staubitz in the lineup.  For me, he’s a keeper.

I like that Gabriel Dumont kid, too. He’s small but nasty and has a non-stop motor. Dumont will never be Brad Marchand, but I’d settle for a Keith Acton.

So here’s your team next season:

• Price and Budaj

• Markov, Subban, Gorges, Emelin, Diaz, St. Denis and a stay-at-home D-man with size. Maybe bring Hal Gill back. Bryan Allen? Bury Kaberle in Hamilton.

• Cole, Pacioretty, Desharnais, Gionta, Plekanec, Eller, Leblanc, White, Staubitz, Dumont, Bourque (unless they can package and move him), maybe Moen, maybe Darche. Plus either a draft choice who’s ready or a stud forward, possibly acquired by swapping the draft choice.

Ryan Getzlaf? Rick Nash?

Gone? Gomez, Weber, Petteri Nokelainen. Mike Blunden, Aaron Palushaj and Blake Geoffrion in Hamilton.

Lots to talk about during the off-season, peeps.

Fearless prediction: Your 2012-’13 Montreal Canadiens will make the playoffs.

389 Comments

  1. naweed235 says:

    I think one of the reasons this team was nowhere near the same team we saw go to the Semis 2 yrs ago has obviously a lot to do with who was let go and who replaced them. There was a lot of character guys on that team that where either poorly replaced or not at all replaced.
    Guys like D. Moore, G. Metropolit, T. Pyatt, M. Lappierre, H. Gill, R. Hammerlik and M.A. Bergeron, although mostly considered as low tier players, brought a lot of character and passion to a team that desperately lacked it this year. Admit it or not, Gio, Gomez, Cammi and Halak were true leaders on the team and gave it their all that year.
    The next GM has to make sure he will restore a certain depth on this team before heading into next season, because for most of the year I saw a vanilla team with no identity and with a lot of uncertainty. there was way too many AHLers playing in the roster starting from the preseason and because that depth was never properly replaced by the management, the young guys were thrown in there with unrealistic expectations from them.
    Like boone said, out of our current roster, these are the guys I would keep for next year:
    Cole, DD, MaxPac, Gio, Pleks, Moen, White, Staubitz and Blunden.

    Eller and Bourque are big question marks for me. Eller is about one of the most inconsistent players I’ve seen in a long time. In about 1 out of 15 games or so, he looks like he can dominate like no other and in the rest of the games, he just makes bad decisions and nervous plays.
    Bourque can be used as a depth scoring winger but if we can get something more decent for him in a package deal then so be it. Needless to say Gomez should either be sent down or traded. A buy out put too much of a cap strain on the team.

    On D, Gorges, Subban and Emelin are a lock and I give Markov the benefit of the doubt since he missed 2 seasons and hopefully he’ll have a good summer to help him get back to his old form (or at least close).

    Kaberle, Webber and Campoli can clean out gutters for all I care. Diaz can be a decent depth 6th or 7th Dman.

    That leaves them with about 5 to 7 open spots.

    I’d look at one of Parise (Obviously a dream), Umberger (trade), B. Ryan (trade) to fill that top 6 spot. P.A Parenteau and P. Gaustad would be great additions to our 3rd line.
    On D, Bryan Allen, Shane O’Brien and even H. Gill (for 1 more season) would be good additions. I don’t mind giving St-Denis a chance either. He sure impressed me in the preseason and picked up where he left off when he was called up again.
    Also, no matter who we get in the draft, contrary to what most people think, should be in Hamilton for at least a year. I think Hamilton will have a good team with most of the likes of Beaulieu, Ellis, Pateryn, Tinordi, Gallagher, Kristo, etc graduating.

    All in all, the GM has his work cut out for him and it all starts by finding a smart and intense coaching staff that can work well with the young guys while being able to light a fire under the vets butts when the going gets tough.

    Here’s to a better season and Cheers to all of you Habs fans.

    • New says:

      That’s an interesting post. I’d give Eller a bit more time myself. He is just finishing the entry level (only 22) and does show potential in limited minutes. In fact it looks like the team is bringing him along the same way Pleks was tutored into the league. He may be nothing more than a flash in the pan but he shows the potential to be a number one center in a couple years. High reward type player who doesn’t hurt you now. Why not keep him?

      • JF says:

        I certainly agree about Eller. We complain a lot that we give up on our young players too soon, only to see them flourish elsewhere. It would be the same story with Eller if we trade him. He needs at least another year to find consistency, maybe two.

  2. sreuel says:

    Has Gomez been bought out yet I just woke up

  3. blu_blanc_rouge says:

    Habfan4life your an idiot

    • LA Loyalist says:

      “your” an idiot? How can we debate the French issue when we can’t even post in English?

    • RGM says:

      That is fantastic stuff. Here’s a hint for you, tiger, if YOU ARE going to refer to someone as an idiot, YOU’RE going to want to learn the difference between you are and your. Here’s Ross Geller to teach you the difference: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v30q6VkphbE

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  4. Habfan4lfe says:

    So has a reason been stated for replacing Randy? Because if they get did of him simply on language that is called DISCRIMINATION. He was hired with 100% knowledge he spoke English. I didn’t hear Molson say he did a bad job. Funny how we turn a blind eye when convenient eh?

    • NickDags says:

      Randy was hired on an interim basis, there does not have to be a reason why he is replaced. It was understood by everyone (except you) including Randy that he would be replaced at the end of the season. They have no reason to provide an explanation when the basis of hiring him was only temporary.

      • Habfan10912 says:

        Correct plus RC didn’t really distinguish himself either. He will go out with class and continue on as a coach. Hopefully one day he gets another shot as a head coach. Jury’s still out.

        • LA Loyalist says:

          RC deserves a medal for doing his best in an impossible situation.

          And all coach’s are “at will” or what they call here “work for hire”. That’s not discrimination because it’s the same for every coach. As long as the contract is honored (they get paid), they can be replaced.

    • RGM says:

      Here’s a reason: we finished in last place in the Eastern Conference.

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  5. FanCritic says:

    when you look at it we had a so, so team. once you look pass the 1st line plus pleks and Gionta not too much to chose from. Eller
    Leblanc and geoffrion could become better who knows if the new management want to take a chance with them. we definitely need more talent up front. we missed the playoffs by 15 points not a lot
    three more 15-20 goal scores would have gotten us there maybe further. looking forward to 2012-2013 hope the new management make smarter decisions this summer. build a team that can compete every year. the fans know, everyone knows you can’t win the cup every year but we should have a team that can compete every year….

    • LafleurGuy says:

      Nice to have the 30+ sensational snipers, but with no one else over 20, we don’t resemble the Red Wings who have 5. Franzen tops out at 29. Datsyuk is 6th on that team with 19.

      “May you live in interesting times.”

  6. Prairienewf says:

    Draft Dumba and ship pick and subban to Quacks for Getzlaf

    • Bigdawg says:

      did you see Subban last night??? No way will a sane GM put him on the block!

    • ProHabs says:

      Craziness. The only forwards I would trade PK for are Crosby, Malkin. Stamkos or Tavares. Getzlaf was part of that amazing 2003 draft but you probably only has about 3 -4 more years of playing in his prime. Subban has not even reached his prime yet and he is awesome. He does have to stop taking so many minor penaties though. Loved his hit on Brown yesterday.

    • New says:

      They won’t trade Subban unless he demands it. Subban makes money for them and tries to do the things a pro hockey player does both on and off the ice.

    • LA Loyalist says:

      Ducks need a leader on D, a stay at home Craig Ludwig type. We have similar needs, so it is hard for us to trade with them.

      That said, Bobby Ryan might become available. Ducks other problem is that their great second line: Saku, Teemu and Jason Blake, are all close to retirement, if not this year then next.

      We had the window to get a good player out of LA for Cammi, but PG panicked and blew it. Let’s pray Bourque does better next year.

      • Mark C says:

        Who were the Habs going get from LA? I take it you’ve never looked at their Cap situation? Unless your idea would have been to trade for that doughboy Penner, like last year.

        Also, gtreat second line? Blake had 12 points, and Saku 38; that makes for a great second line?

      • boing007 says:

        Like Jack Johnson?

        Richard R

  7. HabFanSince72 says:

    Enough with the post-mortems.

    Anyone think the Caps can beat the Bruins?

    Anyone ever thought they’d be cheering for Dale Hunter?


    Ever tried. Ever failed. No matter. Try again. Fail again. Fail better.

    • smiler2729 says:

      I’m going to ignore that series until the 2nd round.

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      Brian Burke is a whining blowhard, Laffs are turds.

    • LafleurGuy says:

      one of the posters, a Londoner, has Dale Hunter listed as his all time favorite player. the guy can be quite vulgar.

      “May you live in interesting times.”

  8. strunzo says:

    The Habs can’t win at home and they can’t win on the road. They have to find another place to play.

  9. AliHaba says:

    It’s been a tough season to be a Habs’ fan for sure but being the eternal optimist I look forward to an exciting 2012-13 season and play-offs.

    If you listen to Glenn Healy you’d think no prospects exist in the Habs system. Au contraire. I agree that Hamilton have few hopefuls right now but look at the influx of talent coming in from the junior and university ranks. I don’t think it’s too far-fetched that two or maybe more of these kids (Gallagher, Bournival, Tinordi, Beaulieu, Ellis, Kristo, Pateryn, Holland, etc.) show up with the big team sometime next season.

    Add to that the possibility that our coveted lottery pick is an NHL-ready phenom and there are lots of reason for optimism.

    And…..our young stars take another step forward…..Price in the running for the Vezina, Subban evolving into a Norris candidate, Pacioretty threatening the 40 goal mark (or do I dare to think 50!).

    Is everyone excited enough yet? What about a surprise UFA signing to boot?

    Have a great summer everyone!

  10. Bigdawg says:

    Who plays with Eller next year? Gio seems like a natural choice to help mentor Eller and get him to the next level (w/o breaking up the DD line) but then who plays with Pleks?

    Seems to me like Wingers are what we need next season. At least one (but I would prefer two) for the top three lines are needed.

    Would you promote youth (like we tried with LL), go UFA, trade away assets for proven help (like prospects and/or pick) or would you do nothing and if we don’t make the playoffs so be it.

    I’m in the UFA camp myself, try and sign 2-3 vets for lines 2, 3 and 4 on 1-2 year contracts.

    If you live in lala land and think we can sign somenone like Parise then more years make sense. But, I’m afraid we will be left with the ‘B lot’ to choose from the Penners, Semins, Huselius’…. But you never know maybe the last place team in the East can attract a Parise, jones or Doan…NOT, why would they sign with us? That’s like saying lets sign Selanne!

    I do wish for Doan though…doan/plek or Eller/gio or Bourque would be fearsome (and yes even if Doan, Gio and Bourque are all RW).

  11. LafleurGuy says:

    Of the 7 non-qualifying teams in the east, I optimistically see us in the best position. I haven’t researched into each team’s farm systems so I may be misinformed. However, ninth place Buffalo did some major upgrading last summer following a playoff appearance and like us got worse. They made a big gamble in giving up toughness, for a pick and scoring. They may soon hear clamors for more size (Kassian, Gaustad). Winnipeg overachieved and their weak road record reflects how their home crowd factor was the strongest in the league. Tampa has a big center, an elite scorer, the Maurice Richard Trophy winning Stamkos, the superb St. Louis. Maybe they need a bilingual, oh nevermind. Carolina is in the boonies and Eric Staal, Joel Skinner are not the same as Ron Francis, Rod Brind’amour. The Islanders may surprise a lot of people in the next non-work stoppaged season (Sept. 15th Baby!). The Leafs are in big trouble. The bombast from Toronto has dulled to a Cherry rant on the Kid, and it’s amazing to see Burke truly speechless. He made no changes in a 78 point season. He should cross his fingers for drafting the Forsberg kid. The Habs at least have had player turnover and additional, hopefully, useful picks to use, including one from trading Maxim Lapierre, seeing that Brett Feisterling didn’t work out. If Gionta, and Moen return, the opening roster next season should be stronger than the one that compiled a 1-7 record in this pre-season.

    “May you live in interesting times.”

  12. ProHabs says:

    Man, I hope that is not the team that we have to watch next year. In no way can we improve if Darche, Dumont, Leblanc (he should be in Hamilton), and a defence that consists of Diaz, St-Denis and god help us if they bring Gill back. I agree Staubitz needs to be on the team next year. And it is time for management to get some toughness on Defence.

    • steve17 says:

      I also think Blunden should be on the 4th line. He is big and played well this season and last night too! The Habs need a real power left winger for the 2nd line and a mean bruiser on defence.

      Habfan17

      • ProHabs says:

        Agree with what you said below Steve that Gainey should have known better about putting such a soft, perimeter team together. What a mistake by a GM that played the game.

  13. WestHab says:

    Post season post: Happy Easter everyone. Can the draft pick the new GM and coach resurrect this club from the grave? Sure, If a rabbit delivers chocolate and colored eggs to the world anything is possible. This season was the saddest. At the beginning of the season if anyone told you that Max and Cole would both have +30 goals you’d think that would have spelled a cozy spot in the playoffs if not a parade. I’m just hoping that that line can keep up some of the magic next year, if so it’s got to be a good start. As far as the GM and coach? Well I loved it when Gainey was brought here and the same for when Carbo was named head coach so I have no business having an opinion on the matters.

    “I’m still pushing for everyone to play their hearts out and play like a Montreal Canadien should play.” RC

    • LafleurGuy says:

      Happy Easter! Fans are often petulant and easily forget. The word legacy can’t be taught to young kids because they are consumed with enjoying the present. Gainey has a great Canadiens legacy. Carbo has earned indelible respect, and if he is rehired, may very well enhance his legacy. (Legacy IS also a car made by Subaru)

      “May you live in interesting times.”

    • M.Neil says:

      Like your comment about Gainey and Carbo, I thought they were what was needed to give Montreal another Stanely Cup, like yourself I’ll keep my opinions to myself about management

  14. gerrybell says:

    Booner,

    nice article. your team for next year was right on with who should stay and who should go. even though we were terrible this year, next years team looks very similar which does scare my slightly. the canadiens have to address the winger on the 2nd line. they need to bring in an all-star to play with plek and gionta which will be costly. if they cant find one, then you might need to remake the whole second line.

    as much as everyone would love to see all of our young jr players on the habs, it is too soon at this time. best case scenario in my eyes is they keep all of those guys in hamilton [to play with kabs] for at least one year. [ a la PK subban had to] Hamilton could be an exciting team to watch next year with tinordi, gallagher, bealieau, bornival, and kristo there. unless they deal most of these good prospects for a winger.

    a season like this will be forgotten shortly when we turn it around. all i want from here out is no stupid moves! how much better off would we be without PG’s moves this year?
    g

    b

  15. Mad Habber says:

    Some names for post 1st round that interest me that may not be as well known…

    Jarrod Maidens C 6’2 170 R
    Boo Neives C/L 6’2 185 L
    Max Iafrate D 6’2 220 R
    Alex Gudbranson D 6’2 205 R

    I’d love it if the Habs got both Neives and Maidens…

  16. JF says:

    I’m happy we finished the season on a winning note. That was a fun game to watch, and it was great to see the players saluting the crowd and giving away their jerseys afterwards. There was a lot to like, from Plekanec’s spectacular short-handed goal, to Pacioretty’s and Cole’s perfect shots, to Peter Budaj’s very solid play, to Erik Cole’s flinging himself full-length in front of a puck in a game that didn’t matter. There’s commitment and leadership. We have some solid pieces in place; we just need more depth. It’ll be an interesting summer.

  17. M.Neil says:

    I think the loss of Kirk Muller as an assistant coach was a big part of the difference between last season and this season. I have a hard time coming to terms with letting Plekanec go, but it would probably be the best thing to do, he just doesn’t seem to click with anyone, his penalty killing skill would be greatly missed. I’d give Bourque a second chance to start next season, trade him if it doesn’t work out. I’ll get roasted for this but I would trade PK for a good forward player.

    • LA Loyalist says:

      Agreed, excepting PK – because Subban is a unique talent. Yes he is having growing pains.

      It’s Hab’s responsibility to bring in a defensive coach who will have authority and credibility, if not Larry than _____ insert ideas here who will groom PK the way Larry himself was nurtured.

    • LafleurGuy says:

      Shouldn’t get roasted for having a thought out opinion. Some of the posters may lightly sautee you however.

      “May you live in interesting times.”

    • Habfan10912 says:

      Not that I’d advocate trading PK as well as Plek, but IMHO everything has to be on the board. No roast from me my friend.

    • Prairienewf says:

      It’s about bettering the team. Without sounding too “out there” Everythings for sale at the right price but not for the sake of just shaking things up. I believe like booner, we’ll be in the show next year with our core group from 2011-12 add a big centre and a few missing cogs vis FA. As far as Gomer, Kabbie, Borque and anyone else really, if they’re not putting out then shipp them down or out. Doen’t matter which.

      Give the new GM a copy of Jim Collins “Good to Great” Get the right people on the bus and ANY one thats not fitting, ANYONE, don’t waste your time trying to drive a square peg into a round hole, ship ‘em.

    • M.Neil says:

      PK has great potential, however, one of the things that he needs to work on is not taking stupid penaltys, how many of those one goal games did Montreal loose because he was in the box or get caught on a rush. I know you can’t blame a bad season on him, but everything has been done to try and snap him out of his immaturity. He was benched for a couple of games by Martin, he was paired with Gill, he’s been denounced by players from other teams, he has had run ins with coachs, I thought his time in Haiti with whats his name might have given him some valuable life experience. He says all the right things in interviews but doesn’t take them to heart. Unless Montreal gets a coach that will help him, it would be an idea to trade him and mature some where else.

  18. PrimeTime says:

    Glad this season is over! The playoffs will still be fun to watch. Looking forward to the Pens winning the East and beating either the Blues or Nuks for the Cup. As for next season, it’ll be interesting to follow improvements to the team. At the start of the season the leadership on and off the ice was flawed. That has changed now and I’m looking forward to the changes for a full season. This team doesn’t need a total rebuild but certainly requires some strengthening. I don’t like the top 5 players in the draft. I hope we trade the pick for a later 1st rounder in return for a top 6 Forward to replace Gomez. The biggest job for the new GM will be to find a couple of players to get this team to the top 4 of the conference while rebuilding the farm so we can stay there.

    My enjoyment this year came watching the Leafs implode after their fans were so excited after the fast start. Burke, the face of the franchise, went from hero to zero and took many of his Hab fan admirers with him. If his team fails again next year and there is no signs that it won’t, then he becomes a 1 contract GM. Wouldn’t that be a blow to his inflated ego!! The only difference between Burke and PG is their love of the media. And all hockey fans in Toronto and Southern Ontario got sucked into the Burke effect. I’m glad they have all shut up along with their hero!

    Go Pens!

    • Mad Habber says:

      If I have to root for a team other than the Habs, I guess I would have to go with the Blues or the Preds. I want a team that hasn’t won one before, and has had there fare of struggles. Not a team that TANKS to get the Lemieux and Crosby’s.

  19. smiler2729 says:

    If you could only bury one, which would you send to Hamilton next year, Scott Gomez, Rene Bourque or Tomas Kaberle?

    My heart says Bork Bork cuz his attitude needs the kick but my brain says Kaberle cuz he’s a Laff and besides Gomez has two years left…

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    • steve17 says:

      I’d still bury Gomez, his cap hit is the highest at $7 million even though his actual salary will be closer to $4 million.

      Habfan17

    • Mark C says:

      Why is there even a thought about sending a 30 year old, two-time 27-goal scorer making less than $4M to the AHL? I know he’s had a bad year since the trade, but I hope this is a joke. Also, there is much evidence suggesting that Kaberle can be traded.

    • Mike D says:

      I think Gomer is the easy choice there. Not only is his cap hit the biggest (about equal to RB’s and TK’s combined), but he’s also the least productive and least tradeable.

      I’ll give RB the benefit of the doubt for this past season. He’s produced well, albeit inconsistently, in the very recent past. If he dogs it again next year, then ship him out or demote him. Given the inflation in salaries over the past two years, 3.3mil isn’t much for a guy that typically produces 20+ goals, plays the PK, and who has size.

      TK, believe it or not, is tradeable. Not easily and not to every team, but he has a reasonable cap hit for a Dman that can get you 40 points and provide guidance to a young puck-mover on a team short on that kind of veteran experience. More so if the team has cap space, or needs to acquire some to reach the floor. I could see Minny, CBJ, and Edmonton having use for him. The return might not be much, but that’s ok as freeing up cap space would be the benefit for the CH.

      - Honestly yours
      Twitter: @de_benny

    • LA Loyalist says:

      It has to be decided based on cap space, because that’s where the benefit comes from (money to sign someone else). Who offends us the most (which I admit can change from game to game) has to be set aside.

      Ergo, Gomez.

  20. frontenac1 says:

    RC deserves a postion next year with the Habs!Agreed Ian! Perhaps in charge of player development?The young guys appear to really listen and respect him .He did say last night that he wants to stay with the organization.I really hope he does

  21. JohnBellyful says:

    The Montreal Canadiens have called a press conference for Tuesday morning, fueling speculation the team will reveal who its general manager will be, and that he (she?) will announce who the next coach is. No need to wait, here’s the inside scoop:

    MONTREAL – The Montreal Canadiens announced today they are raising ticket prices for next season by 10 per cent – despite finishing last in the Eastern Conference.
    “I know fans will find it hard to accept at first but once they understand the fiscal pressures we’re under, they’ll realize it’s the right thing to do,” team owner Geoff Molson said from inside a plexiglass booth.
    Molson, sporting a threadbare, patched tweed jacket, frayed shirt and jeans with holes in them, said the team’s bottom line has been damaged by the Canadiens not making the post-season.
    “No payoff from playoffs is a turnoff,” Molson said. “Or to be precise, a turnstile off.”
    Insurance costs have also skyrocketed, he said, as the team continues to struggle with players being hurt for extended periods, which has driven up premiums every time the team renews its policy (now every three months).
    Rising fuel prices have hurt as well, because of all the player shuttling that was done between Montreal and Hamilton.
    “Players called up to the big team will have to hitchhike to Montreal, which shouldn’t be a problem, given their celebrity status,” Molson said.”However, they will be instructed to make clear that any ride they accept will at least get them through Toronto.”
    Molson ended the press conference by addressing “the elephant in the room – the bloated pay of some of our underperforming players. This is a drag on our team’s fortunes, there’s no question about it. And we’re going to hold them to account off the ice as well on.”
    Molson said the Canadiens have designed souvenir tickets made of wood shims to reflect the team’s efforts to fit in salaries under the salary cap.
    The tickets will be offered in three styles and sold before games by the players that inspired their creation: Deadwood (Scott Gomez), Softwood (Tomas Kaberle) and Driftwood (Rene Bourque).
    “It will give the players a chance to meet directly with the people that pay their wages and, I hope, give them additional reason to elevate their game,” Molson said.
    “As for the fans, I’m sure they’ll appreciate getting a woodie they can treasure for years to come.”

    – “A little song, a little dance, a little shim inside your pants.” –

  22. New says:

    Well you can say one thing about this season. The team was consistent.

    I think Kaberle and Bourque will be back next season unless a good offer comes along. I have a hunch Emelin will be traded or go back to the KHL. He didn’t come over here to make small bucks and lose.

    I think a healthy Gomez racks up as many points as a healthy Eller at three times the cost and twice the hurt +-. So if they keep Eller, Deharnais, and Pleks do they have a choice with Gomez?

    I think I read a lot of interesting insight here this year. Good site. Always good for a laugh as well.

  23. HabFab says:

    Come the draft and even if we get bumped to 4th spot, we will have 5 picks in the top 95.
    A heck of a lot better then the the previous two drafts when we only had 1 pick each draft in the top 95.
    Makes you appreciate Timmins and his staff even more.

    • New says:

      Some people have no respect for a second or third yet common sense says they should. A GM believing that his scouts will find players just as good as a second or third post 100 sounds like arrogance to me.

  24. Habshire says:

    Since you mentioned it Mike.

    The caption in this cartoon is ‘It’s one goddamn thing after another’ from Omni magazine many many years ago.

    http://viewsfromtheoortcloud.files.wordpress.com/2011/07/things.jpg

  25. Sap Anderson says:

    Bob Gainey was a terrible GM. The record speaks for itself

    Forget the whole “restored credibility” thing as he could never get the elite players we wanted to come here

    And don’t bring up his daughter’s passing as an excuse. If anything, he should have stepped down or taken a leave of absence. Instead, he selfishly and stubbornly tried to hang on to his job. Even when he eventually stepped down, he named his assistant the GM and remained behind the scenes.

    In short, Gainey is very much to blame for this debacle and for me will go down as one of the worst GM’s in Habs history (behind Houle and Gauthier). A shame, because after Jean Beliveau he was our greatest captain…

    • habsgod says:

      he won a stanley cup as a g.m. …….so how’s that terrible/ plus he did fleece the sharks in the rivet trade by getting us gorges and pacioretty,bob also fleeced the rangers in the kovalev deal by trading jozef balej for him bob also drafted carey price, p.k. subban yeah he made some bad moves,but he did some great things,he brought this franchise back form the depths of hell and cleaned up a mess made by rejean houle,andre savrd etc…

  26. Hobie Hansen says:

    People who are concerned with Glen Healy’s comments about our farm system shouldn’t be too upset. At the moment Hamilton stinks.

    However, next year will be a completely different story and it will turn around in a real hurry. There’s no less than ten good prospects on their way to Hamilton and 3 or 4 of them are star material.

    One year down the road the difference between the Marlies and Bulldogs will be a huge advantage to the Canadiens organization.

  27. HabFab says:

    For the new GM (and those that think they can do better) the Habs have;
    - 22 returning players under contract (12 in NHL and 10 in Hamilton)
    - 19 RFA’s (8 in NHL and 11 in Hamilton)
    - 9 UFA’s ( 4 in NHL and 5 in Hamilton)
    - 6 graduating prospects under contract for next season (Beaulieu will make 7)

  28. The Cat says:

    The problem with the habs is the fans Im afraid. In this city, perception of the fans is important, when a hero or whipping boy gathers steam in the fans perception it becomes reality. Thus we see players sent off that shouldve perhaps stayed and players that get glorified without merit. The fact that in the perception of the fans that Price is overwhelmingly the Molsons cup winner with a middle of the pack save avg over the offensive engine Erik Cole who is almost top ten in goal scoring in the league is a complete joke.

    [Disclaimer]: I’m a hockey fan. I care about the habs, but probably not as much as you.

  29. Marc10 says:

    One thing I’m going to wish for Eller and Bourque is that they find a spark plug to play with. Gionta could be that guy and perhaps somewhere down the line, Brendan Gallagher.

    Both Eller and Bourque have way more in the tank and I suspect if they were to get their act going and pick up their game, they’d need to play with real warriors who don’t take a shift off. Failing that, we should find them a nice home somewhere else and bring in someone who wants to play hockey 82 times a year.

  30. Marc10 says:

    One thing that annoyed me last night was the knuckleheads from Toronto on CBC saying we had no prospects in the AHL.

    That’s a bit of a stretch… Truth be told Geoffrion, LL, Dumont, Blunden, Paloosh, Diaz and St Denis should all be in the minors and if we didn’t have an emergency ward in our NHL Club, things would be a little different. And then there’s of course next year with Gallagher, Kristo, Beaulieu, Tinordi and the rest of kids making the jump. You’d think we’ll be pretty well stocked in HAM.

    I’m hoping we find some serviceable NHL talent in UFA land to make sure we develop our prospects soundly in the AHL and get some real depth in our organisation. The cupboard is bare in Montreal. It’s going to be fairly well stocked in HAM next year…

    That said, I do think we’re 3 years away from a contender or 2 draft pick steals and 2 UFAs away.

    • mrhabby says:

      truth be told out of all those players the only player who is NHL ready is Beaulieu..most of the others like gallagher, kristo , tinordi are still quite a a few years away from sticking with the big club. LL might stick next year. hamilton is not as strong as one might think.

      • Marc10 says:

        I don’t know that most AHL clubs have many NHL ready prospects. Look at the Wings. They barely call up 4 guys in 5 years… And yet they’re never thought to be weak on the farm.

        I suspect we’re on par with most other places… It’s at the NHL level we’re badly depleted… especially after casting off many NHL caliber players for little or no return – thank you Bob and Pierre. Bon voyages amigos!

        • mrhabby says:

          yes. i agree with that…NHL ready is the problem.

          there are alot more holes here than meets the eye..to think st.denis ,diaz ,weber could be back is just insane combined with a soft kaberle its scarey…the back end is weak.

          • Hobie Hansen says:

            Tinordi is closer to being NHL ready than Beaulieu.

          • Marc10 says:

            Weber and Kaberle need to disappear – period. I don’t care how we do it, they have to go.

            Diaz or St Denis as the extra man, I pick the local kid. He’s a bit more solid.

            But we badly need some size and a bruiser back there. It’s going to take a minor miracle for the new GM to land us both (and hopefully one in there that can kill penalties and play some Hammer-like minutes). We badly need that fix and I don’t know that it exists in UFA land… and I don’t know that we’ll have the cash even if we bury Kabs and Gomer in the minors (something I would absolutely do…)

      • Ian Cobb says:

        Your quite right Mr. Habby. The cupboard is very bare and rare. All our prospects will spend much time in Hamilton first!

    • cuzzie says:

      It was mostly the leaf lover Healy. The Marlies have a lot of older AHL’ers no real future star. Nadri is so so. Bulldogs will be loaded next season. Hope they play more games at the Bell Centre.

      Mr. Bad Example!

      • mrhabby says:

        i don’t think healy is as much of a leaf lover as you think he is..the guy has been critical of the leafs for a very long time . he has called out the laffs lack of goaltending for years.

  31. HabFab says:

    For the Draft enthusiast;
    Monday is the release of the NHL Central Scouting Services final ranking of Draft Prospects.
    Tuesday is the Draft Lottery that will determine the drafting order for the 14 teams that did not make the play-offs.

  32. LafleurGuy says:

    Enjoyed the “rough ride” with HIO posters minus the vulgar ones.
    Learned lots from the truly informative posters, Chris, 24 Cups, HabFab, Hib, Phil C. and several others who are professors in the HIO faculty.

    Mike Boone does great work. I’m tempted to use the word best but I haven’t read everybody.

    Moratorium, or at least an embargo on slammin’ Fisher, Todd, and the rest of the Gazette writers. I’m a non-Montrealer who have read their work for 26 years and many of you paddle the same boat.

    Getzlaf is worth the risk. He’s only 26.

    Thank God! For Easter. But also if the Habs had not lost the season opener, the Leafs would be picking 3rd, and us 5th, pending modifications by a roll of the dice, turn of the page, drop of the balls, kick in the nuts.

    “If ye break faith with us who die, we shall not rest in Flanders Field.”
    John McCrae.

    “May you live in interesting times.”

  33. steve17 says:

    If the Habs were to trade Plekanec, I would rather it be with one of their second round picks to get another top 5 pick this year. I would not trade the 1st round pick this year for a top line centre. It would be better to draft one of the top rated centres, Grigorenko or Galchenyuk, then if they traded Plekanec and one of their second rounders and Weber for another top 5 pick, take Forsberg if he is available, or Reinhart. Build for the near future and for the ling term, not for the short term by taking on another excessive contract.

    Habfan17

    • steve17 says:

      I would also trade Gionta, send him to Jersey if they would take him for whatever they can get. With the cap room from mvoing Gionta and placing Gomez in Hamilton, the Habs could try to sign one of the better free agents, maybe even Parise. There is enough leadership in the room with Gorges, Markov, and Cole.

      If Kaberle, Gionta and Gomez came off the team, there would be $16 million in additional cap room. Some would go to resigning the RFA’a including Eller, Subban and Price, but it would still leave enough to sign at least two decent free agents. Campoli and Nokelainen should also be gone and possibly Moen if the new GM feels he has younger players who could fill his role.

      Habfan17

      • mrhabby says:

        you do realize that when you trade players you are trading the points that go with them…for a team struggling to score why do that. Gionta is good for 50 points…just saying have to be careful here.

        • boing007 says:

          MaxPac learned a lot from Erik Cole. Younger players could also learn a lot from Brian Gionta.

          Richard R

          • steve17 says:

            Yes thry could, but now thy can also learn from Pacman. Besides, Gorges, Cole and Markov can teach them so much all having come vback from serious injuries and in Gorges case, being an undrafted player that has been so successful. Desharnasi too! These are all players who have faced an uphill battle to get where they are today!

            Habfan17

        • steve17 says:

          If he is healthy. I am looking at the big picture, as big as he plays, I think we could get someone younger and with a lower salary that can fill the points and bring more size. Gallagher will be ready soon and Desharnais should stay with the team so we need some more size and grit to augment the small skill guys. Pulashaj needs to have a permanent line to see if he can be a consistent producer. If Montreal could add another top 5 pick this year and say they drafted Forsberg and Grigorenko for arguments sake. Having Pacman DD and Cole as a first line, then Forsberg, Grigorenko and either Gallagher or Pulashaj, then Geffrion, Eller and LeBlanc, and Staubitz, White and Blunden looks pretty good. Next season may ne a bit rough as they get used to the NHL, but they would grow and be very competative in time, and then there would be Kristo, Quailer, Avtsin, Prybil, and Bournival that might take someones spot in the not too distant future.

          Habfan17

  34. Ginu09 says:

    We have a lot to look forward to and it starts with our core. With Price, Pacioretty, PK, and a probable franchise player added from this year’s draft, the core looks strong moving forward. I wouldn’t move our 1st rounder this year for a Getzlaf – he scored 11 goals this year, had a questionable work ethic and is UFA after next season. What I would do is stay on course – if we draft Grigorenko, Galchenyuk or Forsberg this year, we’re building up our top 6.

    While I’m uncertain about Pierre McGuire as GM, his 7-player Cup model makes sense. We have Price, we have multiple stud defensemen in Subban and Markov (if he returns to form next year), we have a franchise power forward in Pacioretty and we have a number of players who can slot into that 5th slot – Gorges, Emelin, Desharnais and Cole. The last two spots McGuire says are your top 2 centers and this is the problem we have with this group. Desharnais, Eller and Plekanec aren’t franchise centers.

    If we’re able to draft a franchise center this season and we have the opportunity to solve the center problem that we’ve had for 20 years, he becomes our #1 and Plekanec the perfect #2 long-term.

    With the core of Price, PK, Pacioretty, our 2012 1st rounder, Plekanec, Markov and a flood of other great players, we do have a lot to look forward to. When Tinordi, Beaulieu, Gallagher, Ellis and Kristo make the jump in 2 or so years, we’ll hopefully be looking back on this year with a “the night is darkest just before the dawn” mentality.

    Next season, we have to address four needs (last season it was three but we traded Cammalleri). These assume that next year we want to challenge –

    First and second, we need two new players in our top 6. A Parise is ideal but a Parenteau will do. Ideally, the other is a ready-made player (ideally a center) who we can draft this year. However, he’ll likely be a season or so away. When he’s ready, we sure have a big problem to deal with with how Desharnais is turning out.

    Third, grit on the 3rd / 4th line. Get in a Tootoo or Cooke type. Lapierre would have been ideal. Maybe move Moen up to the 3rd line to add that punch with Eller and Leblanc.

    Fourth, some grit and nasty on our 3rd defensive pairing. Guys like Engeland, Allen, or Sutton to add to this group.

    I’m excited and the future starts on April 10th.

  35. RGM says:

    I hate it when the Habs season ends before my birthday. The Habs already gave me my b-day present when they canned Gauthier, but it feels like a present given out of spite. Ah well, never look a gift ghost in the boo-diddlies.

    Let the re-tooling for next season begin. I expect to see several names gone and several new and improved faces.

    ———————–
    GO HABS GO! 2011-12 is probably not our year!
    “Scott Gomez is an elite NHL player” – VancouverHab

    Chat with me on Twitter @TheRealRGM81

  36. HabFab says:

    Prospect Update – 5 prospects still in the CHL play-offs (2nd round);

    Holland – 1+5 in 5 GP
    Tinordi – 1+1 in 5 GP
    Beaulieu – 2+6 in 6 GP
    Bournival – 1+5 in 6 GP
    Ellis – 4+5 in 6 GP

    For the curious, Grigorenko is 2+6 in 6 GP

    Honorable mention to Gallagher whose team was eliminated in the first round but not due to his lack of effort – 5+5 in 6 GP

  37. Ian Cobb says:

    Play Off Line up and my picks!

    Rangers & Ottawa = Rangers
    Boston & Washington = Boston
    Florida & New Jersey = New Jersey
    Pittsburgh & Philly = Pittsburgh

    Vancouver & L. A. = Vancouver
    St. Louis & San Jose = St. Louis
    Phoenix & Chicago = Chicago
    Nashville & Detroit = Detroit

    • HabFab says:

      I’m cheering for Detroit too. Want that 2nd pick to be as low/high as possible.

      • Ian Cobb says:

        Thank Gawd that one is over Frank! Will you be able to make it to the Summit this year??
        Not sure we should have it in Nov. like the past 5 years or maybe later on in the season????
        I need feed back from everyone please.

        • Habfan10912 says:

          November probably works better for folks traveling as weather might be a bit better. Chrisadiens and I look forward to meeting you Ian as well as other hio regulars. Cheers.

        • mrhabby says:

          ian..the fall is still the best time..once you get into the winter months the weather becomes to much of a factor.

    • Bob_Sacamano says:

      Rangers & Ottawa = Rangers
      Boston & Washington = Washington
      Florida & New Jersey = New Jersey
      Pittsburgh & Philly = Philly

      Vancouver & L. A. = L.A.
      St. Louis & San Jose = St. Louis
      Phoenix & Chicago = Chicago
      Nashville & Detroit = Nashville

    • cuzzie says:

      Rangers
      Washington
      Florida
      Pittsburgh
      L.A
      St.Louis
      Phoenix
      Nashville

      Mr. Bad Example!

    • smiler2729 says:

      NYRangers
      Boston
      Florida
      Pittsburgh

      Vancouver
      St. Louis
      Phoenix
      Nashville

      __________________________________
      Jack Edwards is a clam, Bruins are pukes.
      Brian Burke is a whining blowhard, Laffs are turds.

  38. steve17 says:

    I agree that unless a better player than Staubitz is available, he should be back next year, But Dumont plays a couple of games and you have him on the team. I would rather see Blunden on the 4th line with White and Staubitz. He has played well and does have size

    Habfan17

  39. RockinRey says:

    With all due respect Mr. Boone ….if the Habs want to compete with the Bostons, Philly and Pitts then they have to upgrade up front which means upgrading ohn Leblanc, Dumont,White and and Darche.

    This team has one good line but often failed to sustain any pressure in the opposing teams end. I just cant imagine the 3rd and 4th lines striking any fear in the contenders. Plekanecs needs to have a big bounce back year.

    On the back end I say Markov, Subban, Gorges are keepers and they need two more shut down guys in the mold of guys like Rick Green and Craig Ludwig. Otherwise this team is exposed.

    And if I were the managing Habs I would wait until there is more time for Markov to recover his game to see where he is at and flip him. This might bring something they have coveted for a long time. Something that has eluded them for a while- the game changing dominant center.

    This would not be at all like gettin rid of Chelios. He is one awkward play from being out again and they have the heir apparent in Subban.

    But once again the biggest thing they need is true grit up front to be able to cycle the puck and win battles on a consistent basis and Pleks, Eller and Gionta and White are not that type of player.

  40. wb100 says:

    Hmm. Trade away a top-4 pick for Rick Nash you say. 7.8 mil per year for 6 more years. 59 points this season (ranked 59th). Turns 28 in June.

    I thought we were leaving that kind of nonsense behind. Thankfully, Boone is only the journalist.

    And isn’t that defence corps almost the same as this season’s dreadful lineup?

  41. Old Bald Bird says:

    CTV cut away too soon. Will HIO be posting a clip of the players saying farewell to the fans? Call me sentimental, but I’d like to see it.

  42. Hobie Hansen says:

    Last night was the first night PJ Stock made any sort of sense in his entire broadcasting career. I wonder how accurate he was though when he said that the Russian/European players who make up the projected top 3 in the draft are possibly contemplating playing in the KHL? Similar to Radulov and Emelin.

    Stock stated that he’d like to see the Canadiens package their 1st pick plus Plekanec for a powerhouse number one center. Might not be a bad idea.

    Boone mentioned maybe Getzlaf but I personally think Getzlaf might have a few inches on Plekanec but isn’t a heck of a lot better. 11 goals this year, give me a break.

    Maybe we trade Eller, the 1st rounder and some other spare parts but not Plekanec.

    I could just see us acquiring Getzlaf and him scoring 12 goals and 35 assists and all hell breaking lose.

    • Mr_MacDougall says:

      I am with you RE: Getzlaf.

      I think the only way Pleks should be traded is if the Habs “win” the deal.

      The KHL thing.. Emelin and Radulov did not play in the CHL, I wouldn’t be too worried about this years crop.

      • habstrinifan says:

        I like your comment. That the only Pleks deal be one that the HABS win. While it may be subjective as to what would constitute a “WIN” in a deal. It would surely help if the returns fits a specific need of the habs and has the proven and widely accepted qualifications… even if temporarily ‘cold’ or out of favour.

        Take for instance Bourque… while he had the size qualification, all scouting reports noted his laziness and lack of involvement. So a player like that would not e a WIN.

        Again I like how you phrased it. The Habs must appear to WIN the deal based on immediate return. Good post.

        • Mr_MacDougall says:

          There is so many things for the “incoming” GM to work out, and I highly doubt “trading Pleks” is one of them. If you consider the contracts on the Habs, there is some work to do.

          Gomez contract.
          Kaberle.
          Bourque.

          Then, without even seeing the team play, the GM must decide what areas the team needs UFA additions (likely small moves given that much evaluation has to be done)

          I am hoping for small moves, physical D-man, 2 wingers for Eller (assuming Bourque, Plek, Gionta) Moen on the 4th line.

          Of course, IF Gomez cap hit is “gone” a bid for Parise and/or Suter should be made.

          • habscout says:

            Unfortunately, the Habs are officially stuck with Gomez in terms of his cap hit, until *at least* the start of training camp. Since he ended the season on the IR, he cannot be bought out; that’s a clause in the CBA. So, the Habs will miss out on the dates during the off season when they are eligible to buy him out. Once he is deemed healthy, then he can be put on waivers then demoted to the minors. That is assuming the next CBA can be worked out before the start of training camp. The only good news is that I believe the Habs insurance will cover some of Gomez’ salary.

    • The Cat says:

      Gotta disagree. Plekanec isnt in the same league as Getzlaf, Pleks playing in the west would be difficult for him I think, I mean if hes playing like a ‘little girl’ out east…Any team out there would want him for PK duty and 3rd line centre. Theres 3 players on the habs that I never understood the amount of praise that they get: Price, Markov and Plekanec. Imagine a Getzlaf, Bourque and Moen line, thats 2 kick ass lines for the habs. I admire Plekanec but he cant lead a line, TP’s best year was when Kovalev led him and lots of that production was on the PP. Habs got to concentrate on being tough 5on5.

      [Disclaimer]: I’m a hockey fan. I care about the habs, but probably not as much as you.

      • Mr_MacDougall says:

        Are you serious? MOEN IS A FOURTH LINER! Not 3rd, not 2nd, he is a fourth liner. A 4-8 goal scorer. That line would have this:

        Getzlaf 16 goals
        Bourque 18 goals
        Moen 7 goals

        worst second line in the league.

        • Hobie Hansen says:

          I’d have to disagree, Moen is a quality 3rd liner.

          • Mr_MacDougall says:

            I think he is an ok 3rd liner when NEEDED to fill in. Chris Kelly is a quality 3rd liner.. twice the offensive production of Moen while being a PK forward. Also, Eller.

            3rd Line player NEED to score 10 goals (something Moen can’t do).

            The reason I say Moen is a 4th liner is because he doesn’t produce the offense of a top 9 forward, but can fill in when injuries hit the team. Imagine a top 9 INCLUDING Moen, gets an injury, then you have Moen and the “injury callup” producing nothing. Just my take on what a “top 9″ should be.

          • Hobie Hansen says:

            The reason I believe he’s a 3rd liner is that he handles himself very well on the ice. He’s always responsible defensively, creates space in the offensive zone and has a knack for scoring big goals.

            He’s not a liability what-so-ever while on the ice and actually one of the stronger positional players. Put an offensively talented center and winger on the other side with Moen and you have a solid 3rd line.

        • The Cat says:

          You cant tally their production this year and add it up and then make a prediction, you must factor in chemistry (and establish each player’s role on the line). It is clear to me that you have no hockey sense nor any vision.

          [Disclaimer]: I’m a hockey fan. I care about the habs, but probably not as much as you.

          • Mr_MacDougall says:

            I think you described yourself.

            Moen is 30, has averaged 7 goals per 82 games post lockout… despite getting lots of top 6 minutes on the Habs.

            Getzlaf is a nice, big, play-making Center that excels when playing with goal scorers. He had an off year this season, but is not a goal scoring center. Getzlaf hasn’t scored 20 goals in any of the past 3 seasons and has a career high of 25.

            Rene Bourque has a scoring touch. Averages one hit and two shots per game over the past 4 seasons.

            Assuming ALL three players you mention on this AWESOME line have career years.. Moen 10, Bourque 30, Getzlaf 25.. it is still just a 65 goal line. I highly doubt THOSE three players ALL have career years playing together.

            Me? No hockey sense? No Vision?
            Do some F**king research you $*****$#@!!!!.

          • The Cat says:

            First of all calm down, if you dont want me to take a nasty tone with you, then dont start it next time.

            [Disclaimer]: I’m a hockey fan. I care about the habs, but probably not as much as you.

          • boing007 says:

            The only way to find out if these three players will complement each other is to have them on the same line next season. What will happen is anybody’s guess. Could be boom, or bust.

            Richard R

    • ont fan says:

      Getzlaf is 27 and we give up Eller and our 1st. We make the playoffs and are middle of the pack. It will take a few more years for our assets to develope who are in Jr. What is the goal? If we aren’t patient and develope our own, where are we?

      • Mr_MacDougall says:

        Exactly, patients. Add smart pieces like Cole. Recover from the “clouds” hanging over the team.. Bourque, Gomez, Kaberle.

        Evaluate Markov over a full season.. and Bourque for that matter.

        Quick fixes is what has the Leafs where they are.

    • Marc10 says:

      If I’m the Ducks, I ask for PK Subban as part of any trade for Getzlaf.

      You can bundle Eller or Pleks and the first rounder and maybe they send Fowler the other way, but that’s what it would take. You need a potential impact player to get an impact player. Same goes for Eric Staal if he was available.

      So I don’t think it’s going to happen given PK would be the ask. You just don’t trade a 27+ minute D with a limitless ceiling for a 70 pt first liner (even though we need that pretty bad…)

      That said, it may well be that the best player available come our pick is a D man. If that’s the case, we’re more than loaded on D and you can try to package that pick (or one of our top Ds) with Pleks or Eller for big center. Call it McDonaugh Take 2, but this time with size!

  43. habstrinifan says:

    Some smiles from last night, which will linger on my mind for a long time and ease me into the playoffs.

    Cole blowing by that Leafs.. who cares who it was… and scoring his first goal of the night.

    Plekanec’s crafty play on the PK and then blowing by that Leafs… who cares who it was… and fooling himself and the goalie. What a beautiful smile after the goal.

    Max Pac blowing by that Leafs….. who cares who it was…. and adding to his amazing season.

    P.K Subban blowing by that Leafs… who cares who it was… and drawing ooohhhs and aaahs from he crowd as they spilled their popcorn/beer.

    Wait… lots of skilful blowing by the Leafs…. No wonder I am smiling.

    I wanted something to wind me down without depression… that WIN did it. I thought the HABS looked good and showed both grit and the flair that us old habs fans remember.

    Smile!

  44. Ian Cobb says:

    If Cunnyworth does not get the head coaching job in Montreal next year, you can be sure he will be employed by the Hab’s somewhere, if he wants it.

    • habstrinifan says:

      Something tells me Cunneyworth and Ladoceur wil be in Edmonton. Renney’s gonna be gone and I think it’s a nice fit all around. Young team. Young coaches. Coaches who drill hard in practices. But who praise and back-off too. And they both would have learnt a lot this season.

      I would love to see them in ANOTHER Canadian city.

      Good luck to them.

    • Habfan10912 says:

      Maybe Hamilton? Or you thinking a bench position?

  45. Gazza Strip says:

    Thank God for the end to this season of discontent. The first half of it was the most painful as we all had such a difficult time coming to grips with the fact that our team was not playoff calibre. The blown leads and lack of compete was horrible. The second was just sad and miserable. Not all was lost as a few bright lights (Pax, Cole, D.D., Emilin, Price, PK) kept showing up with a will to compete. I hope this time next year, we will be joining the playoff fun as a contender. I really feel we’re not far away from being there.
    Thanks to all of the regular contributors here at HIO. I rarely post but always read about my favourite team and enjoy the friendly, and sometimes not so friendly banter that our fans provide. Having some difficulty finding a team to support for the playoffs. Of course, whoever is playing the Bruins is a frontrunner. Also like watching the Penguins and Rangers. Not against cheering for the Sens but not keen on the Canucks. Oh well, cheers to you all. Have a great summer.

  46. HabFab says:

    Aaron Palushaj, Frederic St-Denis, Louis Leblanc, Blake Geoffrion, Gabriel Dumont and Robert Mayer will join the Hamilton Bulldogs.

    The Bulldogs have 4 games left starting today and finishing next Sunday.

  47. Ian Cobb says:

    We will rise again boys and girls! Molson’s move now! As long as he does not read the # 1 add at the Bell Center and hire Mr. Viagra as the new GM.

  48. JF says:

    A positive that was not mentioned is the play of Peter Budaj, especially over the last three games. People have complained that we don’t have a decent backup, but I found him pretty impressive. Because the Habs were chasing the pack right from the beginning of the season, he rarely had a chance to play, the coaching staff believing that we had a better chance of winning with Price in goal night after night. This was Budaj’s first real chance to show what he could do, and IMO he’s proven himself to be a steady, capable backup. We might even have won more games if he had played more. Something I want to see next year is Price playing many fewer games; if we hope to reach the playoffs, we’ll need our goaltender to be alert and at the top of his game.

    About next year… I’m by no means certain that the Canadiens will do a lot better than they did this year. There will be slim pickings on the free agent market, and I think it would be a mistake to overpay. We may need to be patient for another year or even two.

    The keys will be the decisions made by Geoff Molson and Serge Savard about the new management team, and who they select as coach. I think Jacques Martin was a far better coach than most people give him credit for. He took a team with only moderate talent and made it much greater than the sum of its parts. We may not have liked his system, but with the assets he had, it was probably the best means of winning games. Another guy who gets similar results out of a group without obvious stars is Dave Tippett in Phoenix. He is able to maximize his players’ strengths and have them playing a system that allows them to win. The Habs need someone with that ability and the ability to work well with young players, because a key ingredient in any future success will be how we develop our prospects.

    • Habfan10912 says:

      Good morning Jf. I like you noticed the play of Budaj. I also saw an improved defence in front of him. Thinking St.Denis should have been given an opportunity before the KaCa duo. Enjoy your day and get rested up. Going to be a busy off-season. Cheers.

  49. secretdragonfly says:

    A disappointing season to be sure, lots of heartbreak but also some rays of hope, as Mr. Boone so eloquently suggests. Looking forward to watching some playoff hockey (even sans Habs), anticipating what happens at the draft (go get us some good ‘uns, Trevor), and enjoying the summer (maybe I’ll even take up golf again). Thanks everyone for your entertaining and insightful commentary, it’s been great.

  50. JUST ME says:

    I have seen worse Habs teams with not much to look forward or to build on. Yeah ! Got through a few droughts way uglier than this one and yes i am getting old.

    Bottom line is we got what we deserved this year and everything that could go wrong did ! I have every right to be a sore loser and to grab to what i feel is a legitimate excuse of an injury handicapped season. This i have never seen before even though last year seemed pretty bad injury wise.

    So we do have something to build on .Solid assets at every position .Just need to add depth. A top prospect at the next draft a few up and coming youngsters and everything is in place to build from the base of the organization.

    Yes it has been ugly but not as bad as it looks . I compare my team to let`s say…the Leafs for example and i am very positive on things to come.

    Sure am glad it`s over ….

  51. Cal says:

    “the Teflon Hall of Famer who doesn’t get nearly enough blame for the debacle: Bob Gainey.”

    Only 2 things to say about that sh1t comment.
    1. BG hasn’t been GM for 2 full seasons.
    2. How well would you perform if you lost your daughter?

    • smiler2729 says:

      Bob Gainey brought a sense of pride back to the Canadiens, which Pierre Gauthier screwed away in 2 seasons.

      And even Sam Pollock made some questionable moves.

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      Brian Burke is a whining blowhard, Laffs are turds.

    • RockinRey says:

      Always been a big fan of Gainey. Always have admired him but he is not beyond reproach.

      His daughters death while tragic and hearbreaking has nothing to do with the evaluation of his stewardship of the Habs. And if he is evaluated on that alone he should be criticized for some mind boggling moves.

      Leave his daughter out of it. This guy brought in the albatross that is Gomez’s contract and failed to get rid of him when he did not perform up to expectations. Case closed!!

      • habsgod says:

        yeah,and he fleeced the sanjose sharks,by trading them craig rivet for josh gorges,and max pacioretty,he also fleeced the rangers by trading them jozef balej for alex kovalev,he also drafted carey price,p.k. subban so not all moves bob made were bad,yeah he made some bad moves,but which g.m.’s don’t?

  52. blu_blanc_rouge says:

    Boonie I agree with everything you write…I wish more bloggers made sense like you

  53. topher5468 says:

    Mr Boone, Just wanted to say thanks for another season of live game blogs and ALN, both of which I looked forward to with unabated anticipation even through a miserable season. Cheers Mr Boone

    “It’s not an obsession, It’s a way of life..”

  54. boonie says:

    Mr. Boone, you  reminded us how miserable this group was and, yet, you suggest we return both goalies, six of our D, and 11 (maybe 12) of our forwards.

    We entered the season believing that 7 tough games against the eventual Cup winner indicated we were close to being an elite team. We weren’t then and we’re not now. 

    Yep, Markov’s absence and Gionta missing time hurt, but that can’t account for the difference between this mess and the likes of the Rangers, Canucks, or St. Louis.

    Excuses are for losers and we’re winners. A new GM, and a new coach need to make that philosophical reversion to our historical mean their priority. 

    With due respect to molar of the talented and hardworking players on our current NHL roster, they have to go. 

    Price is immensely talented and a winner at all previous levels, but pair him with a real #2. A reliable tender who can play 30-35 games and give ulna realistic chance to win them. The Roys and Broduers of the world are few and fair between. Even Kenneth Wayne had Bunny.

    On D, PK, Emelin, and Gorges are no brainers. As painful as it might be, it’s time to move in another direction with Markov. Actually, it was time to move on when he was a UFA. He was outstanding here and give him credit for working to come back, but we need to look forward and change is good. A second rounder would be nice, but if we get an amnesty opportunity under the new collective bargaining agreement, then that’ll have to do. Weber, Diaz, Kaberle …

    Up front, pacioretty, check. But let’s do some real thinking after that. 

    Cole was the real deal, brings energy, determination and leadership – every shift. A definite pro’s pro who has chemistry with young Max. But, like Gionta, he’s on the wrong side of 30. Should we keep both? In my opinion, no. Like Markov, time for change. Cole may have more trade value, but unless it’s remarkably more than Brian, i’d keep Cole and move our Captain.

    Down the middle, it’s DD, Plecs and Eller. Again, a nice combination of skill and hard work. But these three aren’t going to take us to the next level. One has to go. Tough choice, but I’d move Plecs. 

    This will be the first major management overhaul since 2003, we need our old philosophy and new direction. It’s tough to be objective with our favorite team, but it’s time. 

    It’s time for change. Big changes.

    • ont fan says:

      So when you move all these players, are you reshuffling the deck with other teams problems or are you after draft picks and assets? Calgary and the Sharks are going to be doing the same thing.

      • boonie says:

        Could add picks, prospects or players. But not of the kaberle, bourque ilk. We don’t need 30 somethings, who have peaked, have little residual trade value and have contracts that run for several more years.

        We should have been jettisoning players at the deadline. Calgary should have been doing this for two years. Subborn…

    • RockinRey says:

      Well put. The roster needs an overhaul. They need to make some tough decisions. Too many times they were outplayed and could just never get the puck back from the other team. Its hard to imagine bringing back what amounts to 85% of the roster and having any success. Man games lost notwithstanding this team needs an upgrade on the 2nd ,3rd and 4th line.

      And they need 2 stud D men that can clear the net and get the puck out!!

  55. Old Bald Bird says:

    That was a pretty quick and good About Last Year, Mike.

    My fave was “Perry Pear”.

  56. twilighthours says:

    Thanks Boone!

  57. KLear says:

    With all due respect, an unfair shot to Gainey Mr Boone. I understand you probably get to see this team live more often than I do, but you failed to mention two issues that have plagued this team in recent years – man games lost to injury, and poor drafting/player development 6-8 years ago. None are BG’s responsibility.

    Since Timmons assumption of head scout, the team has drafted better and has both skill and size in development (the widely held view Montreal’s development system is weak is based on the fact there is no star waiting arrival in the next 12-16 months). This team won’t necessarily make the playoffs next year, but with patience this team will be a contender 2013 and beyond if we hold onto to the youth.

  58. habstrinifan says:

    Good Morning everyone!

    Thank you for all your efforts during the season culminating in a very thorough ‘about the season’ wrap-up today.

    It was realistic but did not depress and showed that the pieces for a sturdy team are in place, and we will need to add to take the team to that next level.

    I think everyone agrees with you need for that big mean stay-at-home D.

    I am glad to see you put forward the idea of a draft-position swap for a scoring forward. Which is why I floated the suggestion of trading down and taking someone like Guance if the GM can do any type of manoeuvring to get a player like Getzlaf or Nash.

    I am surprised that you dont have Blunden as a starter next year. White may be a better fighter. And White is more of a known commodity. Which is why I think other GM’s could find him an attractive piece in a package to make the sort of deal refered to above. Blunden is a better all round player and his toughness(hits) does not take him out of the game. I would keep Blunden over White if it came to a choice. I also fear White’s durability.

    Staubitz is a keeper and Moen will be part of the ‘tough’ group.

    OOOOP! My thank you should have read “Thank you Mike Boone”.
    It is sincerely said Mike…. Thank You!

  59. rhino514 says:

    Mike Boone, the comment about Bob Gainey??
    Please look at the record pre-Bob Gainey, where the team rarely made the playoffs in the 6 or 7 years previous, and the playoff record post-Gainey.
    Also, a conference Final. One shot from taking out the Stanley Cup champions.
    The team he remodelled post-Koivu has more character than any Habs team since 93 and became a team that plays without fear in the playoffs. Gomez was a big mistake, but Gomez, Gionta, Cammalleri, Moen, Gill together were a very good remodelling overall. All character guys. Gainey recogized that something was lacking under the previous captain; he could have kept going with a team that might well make the plaoffs most years but would probably never get out of the first round, but he changed the course of the team for the better. NO TEAM, no matter how talented, could have survived the injuries and bad luck in shoot outs and one goal games this year.
    All the while done while undergoing an immense personal tragedy.

    Bottom line: The pressures and circus factors in Montreal are too immense to build a franchise with the stability of the Detroit red wings. But he kept the team competitive in every year of his tenure and moulded them into a team that, if it made the playoffs, always had the chance to go far.

    • Clay says:

      Gomez a ‘character guy’? Surely you jest.

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    • Habfan10912 says:

      Rhino, thanks for your post. BG changed gears midway when the game changed on him and then he had to endure a personal tragedy that none of us should have to. Although I’m guessing Bob Gainey himself would agree somewhat with Mr. Boone, to me he’ll always be #23. Cheers to you and yours on this Holiday my friend.

    • habstrinifan says:

      Gainey is a habs hero… but Mike Boone is right. Whatever the reason.

    • RockinRey says:

      Get serious!! This team beat Pit and Washington because of a hot goalie not because of more talent.

      He didnt really change the course for the better. He mismanaged assets. How many players left for nothing or very little value. D’ags, Halak, Cammi, Souray, Koivu, Mcdonough ,Kovalev and the list goes on…..

  60. The Cat says:

    This is the right time to try and nab Getzlaf; hes off a disappointing season, but still not too old.

    [Disclaimer]: I’m a hockey fan. I care about the habs, but probably not as much as you.

  61. HabinBurlington says:

    I think BG gets more than his fair share of the blame, but perhaps people can move on, the team has.

    I will choose to remember Bob the Player and Bob the GM who restored credibility to the office of the Habs. No need to go through what this man suffered through, and I am not sure anyone could do their job well as a result. He did then step down, unfortunately his choice of PG was not great, but PG gets my wrath.

    Only fitting but heading to golf course shortly, perhaps I will run into a few leaves on the course.

    Timmins, its all on you now buddy pick us some winners.

    Geoff Molson, I hope you make a good decision in the upcoming weeks.

    CHeers everyone, try and enjoy the off season.

    Must admit, the Tankers had their way this year, we’ll get you next year,
    signed,
    The Optimists

    • Habfan10912 says:

      Well today on this joyous Holiday we unite, tankers and optimist to turn our attention to Tuesdays lottery. Many changes coming this off season and as fans we all want to make sure these moves get us closer to the prize. Gerald to you and all my HIO friends I hope you have a blessed holiday with family and friends. Get rested up today as we have much work to do. Cheers to all!

    • Clay says:

      In fairness to some of the tankers…many of us only joined the ‘Tank Wagon” when it became clear that this team sucked. There was simply no other choice – if we wanted to live in reality, that is.

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    • habstrinifan says:

      Good way to view the Gainey question. What’s done is done.

  62. John Q Public says:

    And may I repeat :

    At least we are not the Leafs!!!

    Youppi should be at the draft for us.

    • Habfan10912 says:

      John. You are 100% right. That effort from the Leafs last night was insulting to their fan base. That team last night clearly quit. Happy Holiday to you and yours. Cheers.

  63. smiler2729 says:

    This team is not as bad as we all like to think it is.

    Front office BS aside, they are a playoff team.

    I have to disagree about Mike Blunden, Boone, he should be a 4th liner here and not in Hamilton.

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    Brian Burke is a whining blowhard, Laffs are turds.

    • Habfan10912 says:

      Blunden does look like a decent 4th liner. Many changes are on the way. Not sure the team is in fact a playoffs team as present but a decent core does exsist. It all starts Tuesday. Fingers and toes crossed.

  64. Un Canadien errant says:

    I didn’t really watch the game tonight, it was more as if I had it on as background mood music. I spent my time online at HockeyInsideOut.com, chin wagging with other regulars through the magic of a clunky site. I should have paid more attention, seeing as it was the last Canadiens game for a long long time, but couldn’t muster up the discipline. It was like the last day of school, or this one time when I got laid off and spent a day organizing files and getting them ready for handoff and cleaning out my desk. My mind was elsewhere.

    Precisely, it’s stuck on the draft, and free agency on July 1, and on the news conference(s) which will announce our new management and coaching teams, and training camp, and the Bulldogs training camp and drooling over the raft of new prospects. So it’s not like I was cheating, I was thinking of my true love the whole time.

    Erik Cole, Max Pacioretty, Brad Staubitz in the empty net for his first goal as a Habitant, Tomas Plekanec on a 5 on 3 penalty kill, yada yada, great game. The Leafs suck. I wouldn’t trade my team for three of theirs.

    The win was a good way to end the season, and since the Oilers couldn’t muster up a win, didn’t cost us a steep 4 points on the draft lottery. Seeing the fans receiving jerseys from the players was great, although CBC cut away to the Jets’ game too quick, I had to do some lightning quick PVR work to tune in the festivities on RDS.

    Speaking of Don Cherry sucks, the knee on knee collisions are not a result of the clampdown on headshots, as he moronically asserts, but rather the result of the ‘finish your check’ mentality prevalent in the NHL, which allows players to hit others long after they’ve had possession of the puck, and the resulting mania of GM’s to amass on their rosters goons and lunks who can’t skate. These guys either extend a knee or reach out with an elbow as they’re missing their target, as Brooks Orpik did and Darcy Hordichuk demonstrated in trying to decapitate Ryan Kesler in retaliation for Maxime Lapierre having had the audacity to bodycheck him.

    After the game I watched the Canucks win the President Trophy, and I think I’ll make it my new job to follow these guys through the playoffs, call it a civic duty as a transplanted British Columbian. Let’s all hope for a good final involving the Canucks at full strength against the Penguins, a final with no villains, and skating and scoring and entertaining hockey instead of thuggery.

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  65. rated_R says:

    Any one else impressed with Budaj play this week. Not as bad as i thought

  66. H.Upmann says:

    Not that it matters now, but I still believe that after the centennial meltdown, Gainey was quietly moved behind the scenes and the summer of 09 was lead by Gauthier… And upon reviewing some of the moves this season,
    Summer 09 really has a lot of Gauthier about it… Doesn’t matter anyhow.

  67. Marc10 says:

    Time for golf. Glad it’s over!

    Good luck to whoever plays the Bruins.

    On to the draft! Make it a good one Mr Timmins.

  68. Croz38 says:

    Its always a good night when we beat the Leafs. Looking forward to the draft lottery and the many changes coming this summer.

    Happy Easter everyone, enjoy.

    http://www.break.com/index/happy-easter-from-kate-upton-2316293

  69. Price for PM says:

    Things could be a lot worse moving forward. This team has many young core pieces to build around. With the right coach, a good draft, a couple grit signings and burying Gomez and Kabs in Hamilton, we could easily find ourselves contending for the Northeast next season.

    Garth Snow might actually consider taking Gomez, Kaberle, a second round pick and some cash for Parenteau’s rights. We could also throw in Weber as more incentive to take our underachievers. He could bring his game to a more acceptable level alongside fellow countrymen Streit.

    I can’t help but feel that I could do a much better job at GM than any candidate out there.

    Thanks Boone!

    “Because I always try so hard to win and had my troubles in Boston, I was suspended.”

    • Un Canadien errant says:

      We don’t really need to buy P.A. Parenteau’s rights, and certainly not for any high price. A 5th or 6th round pick should do it, or better yet wait for July 1 and bank on his affinity for les Canadiens and his friendship with David Desharnais to seal the deal. Of course, I get where you’re going with giving up Scott Gomez and Tomas Kaberle, I just wouldn’t want to spend a second-rounder though.

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      • Clay says:

        If a second rounder was the price to unload our garbage, I’d do it in a second. Hell – I’d give 3 of them! Gomez and (to a much lesser extent) Kaberle are a millstone around the neck of the Habs. Bourque may soon find himself in that list if he doesn’t pick it up next year.

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        • HabinBurlington says:

          If indeed this team has to “unload” its refuse, they can afford to pay for it Hamilton. I want our draft picks, we had slim pickings to call up this year because of the past 5-6 years of 1st and 2nd round picks for rentals etc… I want the store shelves in Hamilton bursting at the seams with all kinds of selection.

          Keep the picks lets rebuild the old fashioned way, we got veterans to blend in, bring on the youth.

          • Clay says:

            I’m with you on burying them in the minors…I just hope Molson is willing to eat that much cash. It’s a huge loss, really. I wouldn’t blame him for exploring all options first.

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  70. H.Upmann says:

    PERRY PEAR lmao!!!!!!!!!

  71. Stormin says:

    Hate to say it but i think Bob Gainey as much as I respect him deserves most of the blame for the Habs floundering woes, especially his insecurities with the people he surrounded himself with over the years.

  72. Stormin says:

    Hey Mr Boone Thanks for all the great reads all year your about last night really rock.

    Also Boonmeister do you know if the Canadiens scouting staff is looking at drafting this local boy Mike Matheson from Pointe Claire , might still be available with our first pick in the second round

    Check out these high lights of I hope the newest Canadiens from this years draft Alex Galchenyuk and Michael Matheson local boy from Pointe claire
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M5tWK459ZXo
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k9so6qGZqhw

    Hey Boone do you know if the Canadiens scouting staff is looking at drafting this local boy Mike Matheson from Pointe Claire , might still be available with our first pick in the second round
    Update to my earlier post below concerning my hopes of Canadiens drafting local boy Mike Matheson with our 1st pick of the second round. Talking to some scouts looks like he is high on some late first round scouts wish list. Bruins interest is moderate but they love to raid Quebec talent on habs. Pittsburgh is high and also has connection because Matheson’s family has some ties to that organization through one of his Uncle’s. But from all what i hear,,` though if he is still around when St. Louis picks he will be chosen by the Blues. So looks like the habs would have to move up to select this local gem from Pointe Claire
    I would like to see Habs use second pick on Mike Matheson local pointe clare boy, rated 25th by ISS 29 byCSS and 37 by TSN, hopefully will still be available with our first pick in the second round, One of the best pure skating d man available in the draft, playing in USHL for former hab Jim Montgomery in Dubuque . Played Midget for Lac st Louis ions, ala Louis Leblanc. Captained Midget lions to Midget provincial Championship last year, played for Canada’s gold medal team at Under 18 Ivan Hlinka, Looks to be headed to NCAA which is fine as we have some d prospects ahead of him . Matheson has size great shot and skates as smooth and strong as anyone in draft. He was projected number 1 in last year’s QMJHL draft ahead of Nathan Mckinnon at the time, but chose the USHL and NCAA route even so still went in the second round of the Q draft would be a steal if we could get him with our first pick in the second round, and a local pick to boot bilingual for all the politically thinking fans. He is a steal in the 2nd round.

  73. sampson12 says:

    Worst season in my lifetime by a long shot. Let’s just hope our scouts do their jobs, and pick the player available who will end up being the best pro. It’s not always easy, and I have my opinions on who they should draft, but in the end they know a hell of a lot more than me and I just hope they get it right. It will be a decision that will go a long way in affecting to the future of the franchise.

  74. Rob says:

    Crazy season. Strangely enough, after all is said and done, this season could end up being a blessing and a potentially important year in the return of the Habs to something more closely resembling their glory years. If nothing else, at least we can always be thankful for one thing……at least we’re not the Leafs!

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dSv8U0_8YyI&feature=youtu.be

    The Montreal Canadiens: sporting the best AND worst fans since 1909!

    • HabFab says:

      Not bad, started off slowly with gentle music. I was thinking to myself, he would have done better if he had blown up that damn Laff when bam…there it is!!

  75. Stormin says:

    Point well taken

  76. Clay says:

    Oooohhhh – minions. I wasn’t aware you had minions. That changes everything.
    *Edit* I see how this could be confusing now that the post it was a reply to has been deleted…

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  77. habfan01 says:

    minions- Is that baby onions?

  78. HabFab says:

    Picking 2nd isn’t the only thing this site has wrong, we don’t have a 5th pick either. Interesting seeing the perception that Detroit does the best drafting by a mile.

  79. cuzzie says:

    The first time I saw that mock draft I couldn’t stop laughing. Not one of those players mentioned will be picked by the Habs.

    Mr. Bad Example!

  80. otter649 says:

    Why even attempt a mock draft – Lottery has to be done & Stanley Cup Playoffs have to be completed to establish order of teams drafting…….

  81. boing007 says:

    Millions of baby onions.

    Richard R

  82. cuzzie says:

    Geoff is in it for the long term unlike the car salesman Gillet.

    Mr. Bad Example!

  83. LA Loyalist says:

    Mr. Gainey was brought in to rebuild the team and had sufficient authority to do what he wanted. Who would have said “no” or “non” to Bob during those first years?

    And when he blew it up, fired Carbo, lost Koivu and others for NOTHING… only a few of us saw red flags…

    Jump cut to last night. The season ends with Bob, PG, JM all gone, and Cary Price dressed up in Village People-esque Cowboy gear to accept a trophy – after a year with 26 one goal losses and a horrible shootout record – I have rarely been more offended.

    Do you guys HONESTLY, not just the Price-Bots, think Patrick Roy or Ken Dryden would have accepted such a pathetic trophy?

    What did we win? NOTHING.

    To me, this is proof that Price has NO IDEA what it means to play for the Montreal Canadiens.

    Do with that what you will.

    Me, I’m going to Paris to light candles at Notre Dame for Mr. Molson to have vision and wisdom and conscience to keep doing what must be done. And I’m not even Catholic.

  84. smiler2729 says:

    Dumba sounds about right for the Laffs.

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    Brian Burke is a whining blowhard, Laffs are turds.

  85. Mark C says:

    Good ol’ Burkie could go for some truculence in Tom Wilson. I wouldn’t put it passed him.

  86. jmsheehy19 says:

    I heard the Leafs are gonna package their pick to Boston for Thornton.

    Burke said he was gonna build a champion, he just never said where.

  87. habsgod says:

    and he’s also compared to malkin

  88. HabFab says:

    I may have been one of the first to use that analogy but in all fairness to Grigorenko, he is a 17 year old living in a foreign country speaking not one but two foreign languages. Only time will tell this tale but Yashin was a superior talent, his compete level was the issue with him.

  89. Prairienewf says:

    Good if we ship him by the time he’s a UFA

  90. New says:

    He may be closer to another Pierre-Marc Bouchard. (69games, 46 goals,94 assists, 140 points, 54 PIM in his draft year and 1st center taken in the 2002 draft at #8 ) -sorry. That year Boumeister was taken 3rd and Nash 1st reversing the predictions.

    All to say organizations evaluate players and take they guy they hope will turn out, in order, as availability allows.

  91. Kooch7800 says:

    I think Edmonton will go for Defense. They are stacked up front. But who knows!

    “Like Canadian Hip hop..check us out http://www.groovecontrolmusic.com

  92. HabFab says:

    I see us going with either Grigorenko or Galchenyuk.

  93. rnnoble says:

    Are you saying Price should have reactively turned down the honour because the team didn’t make the playoffs? Do you think Roy and Dryden (assuming we still want to be stuck in the past and keep making comparisons to the past 4o years) would have deliberately embarrassed the organization, and the fans that supported them and voted for them? That’s disrespect in the name of misplaced personal pride. That’s not team or organisational spirit.

  94. drivefor25 says:

    Yeah, and if he declined the award, you and others on this site would be all over him for his lack of class! I usually like your posts, but your Price hatred is blinding you. He’s an elite goalie and the Habs are lucky to have him going forward.

    Fan since ’71

  95. Mark C says:

    You really are a sad man. The Molson Cup is given to a player from EVERY Canadian NHL team. Lastly, Roy and Dryden have “accepted such a pathetic trophy.”

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Molson_Cup

  96. habsguy says:

    ya I agree, too bad they couldnt have scored a few goals for him !!!!!, and ya, I also agree Roy or Dryden would have snubbed the hometown crowd by refusing to accept the award….get real!!!!

  97. DorvalTony says:

    Price-Bots LOL!

    Draft Malcolm Subban!

    Thanks for listening, Geoff Molson.

  98. New says:

    Awh come on now. Koivu had 38 points as the second center this year. As a third in Montreal what would he have scored…20?Anahiem got 2 whole more points than Montreal. Carbo got himself fired and no one else hired him back. Price came out and stood there for the team and crowd, he never touched that thing. Let it go man.

  99. boing007 says:

    Forget the candles. Stick around for the organ recitals. Wonderful stuff.

    Richard R

  100. steve17 says:

    Even with the new rules, Gainey should have known better. He played on those Canadiens teams that had tough role players that were brought in depending on the team and game conditions. Guys like Lupien, Chartraw and Bouchard. Then the regular 3rd and 4th liners that would go through a wall, Riseborough, Tremblay and Lambert. The regular defence too. Lapointe and Savard were no slouches and of course Robinson. They had skill, speed and team toughness , something Gainey over looked! Gauthier too. he only started to address this when he knew he was about to be fired!!

    Habfan17

  101. DorvalTony says:

    Palushaj has a shot at the ECHL. Makes Pyatt look like Mike Bossy.

    Thanks for listening, Geoff Molson.

  102. LA Loyalist says:

    Well, he just might. And he has all the physical skills to win us a cup one day. I just don’t think he has the software – the competitive drive and pride to get to the elite goalie level.

    My kid, (9) is about to receive the MVP trophy as the most valuable player and scoring leader on his team, but his team last year was bad. While he deserves the trophy, he understands that it doesn’t mean sh*t and we have doubled up his training for spring so he can do even more for his new team so the team can win.

    Too bad Cary Price never learned that, and thinks it’s a big joke to dress up like the Village People.

  103. Prairienewf says:

    Nah. 4-5 yrs 45-50 mil. Same for Max Pac.

  104. rnnoble says:

    In fact, Roy accepted the trophy in 1995, when the habs had an even worse points percentage than this year.

  105. HabFanSince72 says:

    In fairness, it is pretty funny to dress up like the Village People.


    Ever tried. Ever failed. No matter. Try again. Fail again. Fail better.

  106. DorvalTony says:

    Golden Boy was given the keys to the city based strictly on potential. He has yet to deliver. Doesn’t stop his Kool Aid drinking fans from blaming Halak for the 2010 miracle. Funny way to thank him for that unremarkable feat.

    Get over it, girls! What Halak did was great, he’s long gone, stop talking about him. What’s Carey done?

    Thanks for listening, Geoff Molson.

  107. RGM says:

    The ludicrous nature of your posts never ceases to amaze me.

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  108. Kooch7800 says:

    I just think Edmonton needs D in a bad way. They have some solid offense but their d is killing them. Goaltending is a bit weak as well but that won’t change from this draft

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  109. Cal says:

    Gainey was not fired.

  110. LA Loyalist says:

    which guy is your fave? There was the fireman, policeman, indian – was the 4th guy a construction worker?

    I have to admit the music was hilariously fun.

  111. LA Loyalist says:

    If you read it again, you’ll see he meant Gauthier was fired, not BG.

    That said, his point, that Bob should have known better, is valid.

    It’s no secret that Bowman platooned a couple of skill guys and a couple of tough guys and would tweak the team game by game depending on whom we were playing. Obviously we can’t do that these days in the same way, but the principal was and remains sound.

  112. DorvalTony says:

    Good man.

    Thanks for listening, Geoff Molson.

  113. LA Loyalist says:

    He didn’t dress up like the village people.

    I don’t hate Price, I hope we win a cup with him. I was sincerely interested to find out if anyone else was bothered.

    Obviously not.

    I would not personally accept such a trophy, that’s all (note that no one gives a crap about the President’s Trophy).

    I would have used the opportunity to make the point that the only honor I am interested in is The Stanley Cup. But that’s just me, I’m old and cranky and remember when Habs had dignity.

  114. RGM says:

    Way to disagree without being disagreeable, sport.

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    “Scott Gomez is an elite NHL player” – VancouverHab

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  115. Ian Cobb says:

    Jean Guy!
    Using the word idiot, suggests that you are very much aware of what one is. I for one have no idea, but you may have meant different opinion, non??

  116. New says:

    Too bad. HIO goes to great lengths to link to some great articles written by some great writers. You missed a lot by not reading and thinking about them.

  117. Mark C says:

    Point a game player in the AHL, yet you think he has a shot at the ECHL? Good stuff, Tony.

  118. New says:

    Sorry Ian …posted in wrong spot.

  119. Mr_MacDougall says:

    That is exactly why Defenseman usually make the best UFA signings (Rafalski in Det, Pronger in Phi) D generally perform into their mid-late 30′s

  120. Mr_MacDougall says:

    I think your numbers are inflated.. I think it is more likely for Price to earn 5-6 and Subban 3-4.

    Also, Cammalerri is off the books (Bourque has AK’s money)

  121. AliHaba says:

    I think you’re a little high on your raises. Maybe on their UFA contracts.

    And don’t forget that the Cammalleri, Gill, and Kostitsyn deals opened up some cap space. Campoli likely will not be re-signed which is another 1.75. Moen is another issue but I hope he’s re-signed.

  122. naweed235 says:

    way WAY too much for Price… Nothing against Pricey but no goalie in this league is worth that much. Just because there are idiot GMs in the league that throw that type of cash at players like Bryzgalov doesn’t mean the HAbs should follow… a fair deal for Price would be 5 yrs at $ 5-5.25 M per. His stats havent exactly been lights out and other than the fact that he played a crap load of games the last 2 seasons, he doesn’t have much bargaining power. Plus he is a RFA

  123. jmsheehy19 says:

    Yeah I think your numbers are closer to what’s actually gonna happen as they’re both RFAs.

  124. Sal from the Hammer says:

    Agreed. Think that, based on both players’ past season, hard to justify more than 5-6 for CP, and, 3-4 for PK. They were good seasons for a Hab player, but, in the greater sceem of things, their season were average. Nevertheless, if push comes to shove, I say pay the Ladds enough to keep them both Habs for a very long time!

  125. Stev.R says:

    Gomez’s contract won’t be completely gone if we buy him out

  126. K-hab25 says:

    What the hell has Halak done? Price has a junior championship and MVP. An AHL championship and MVP. Three all star appearances before turning 25. Halak was 25 during his 9-9 playoff run, elite indeed, rotflmao!! Halak hasn’t accomplished s**t at any level. He’s not even the #1 on his team going into the playoffs, losing his job to a journeymen back up. Again his greatest accomplishment is a .500 record in one playoff year. He’s a nobody, always was and always will be!!

  127. K-hab25 says:

    The mirror ?


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