About last night … (updated after Sunday afternoon game)

IrishBerge

OK, Marc Bergevin isn’t Irish.
Moreover, there is a rapidly accumulating body of evidence to suggest the Canadiens general manager is good, rather than lucky.
But check the calendar: It’s March 17.
Everyone is Irish on St. Patrick’s Day.
And while the Blarney Stone has not been relocated to the seventh floor of the Bell Centre, good fortune and Irish eyes (maybe Brendan Gallagher’s) are smiling on the Canadiens’ executive suite.
It’s almost spooky: Everything Bergevin and his staff do comes up smelling of clover … or shamrocks.

The latest example is Jarred Tinordi.

The defenceman is recalled from Hamilton and makes his NHL debut against the Devils in New Jersey. Partnered with Francis Bouillon, Tinordi plays almost 15 minutes. He does nothing egregiously wrong on D, picks up an assist on Tomas Plekanec’s winning goal and ends his first game in the bigs at plus-2.

On the eve of St. Patrick’s Day, the Canadiens skated out on the ice of the Prudential Center as a fourth-place Eastern Conference team. Saturday afternoon wins by Boston and Pittsburgh knocked them out of the lofty perch the Canadiens had occupied since a 3-1 win over the Rangers lifted the Canadiens into first place on Feb. 19.

But by 10 p.m. – after a typically hermetic New Jersey defensive effort in which the Canadiens had to scratch and claw for each inch of the ice – they were back on top of the conference with a 19th win in 28 games.

It didn’t last. The Penguins edged the Bruins 2-1 Sunday afternoon; and by the time the last Celtic celebrant is poured out of the pub on Sunday evening, the Canadiens find themselves in second place in the conference, two points behind Pittsburgh with two games in hand.

The Canadiens remain atop the Northeast Division. They’re a point ahead of Boston, which has played one game fewer.

The Sunday afternoon game was costly for both teams. Kris Letang and David Krejci left with injuries..

Canadiens fans should congratulate themselves for staying awake through the 2-1 Saturday win. Until its last few frantic minutes, the game at the Pru was stultifyingly boring.

You want excitement in New Jersey? Watch the Sopranos or read Philip Roth. Devils hockey is about as exciting as watching Tony wash his car or Portnoy pleasure himself.

The Devils gave the Canadiens nothing. The home team had a 33-22 shot advantage, outhit the Canadiens 26-18 and set up a wall of sticks and bodies in front of goaltender Johan Hedberg. New Jersey effectively stifled the Canadiens’ speed and skill.

Playing against his old team, Brian Gionta was held without a shot on goal. His futility was matched by Alex Galchenyuk and Andrei Markov.

Heck, Colby Armstrong had a shot. And it went in, Armstrong’s first of the season.

In his postgame remarks, Michel Therrien praised Armstrong for contributions that escape the scrutiny of many fans. The coach made an in-game adjustment, moving Armstrong to the Lars Eller-Alex Galchenyuk line in the third period and dropping Gabriel Dumont down to play with little-used Ryan White and Michael Blunden.

And for a late defensive-zone faceoff, Therrien used David Desharnais, who won 13 of 24 draws on the night (Plekanec won 19 of 29).

P.K. Subban led the Canadiens’ modest shot parade with five. Lars Eller had four, Brendan Gallagher and Max Pacioretty three each. Four players accounted for 15 of the team’s 22 shots.

The Canadiens power play went 0-for-3. The PK allowed New Jersey’s only goal, by Peter Harrold.

Fans have been waiting for Carey Price to steal a game. This might have been it. With the game in the balance, Price made 18 saves in the third period.

Some stats:

• The win lifted the Canadiens’ road record to 10-2-2. Last season they were 15-20-6.

• The Canadiens have scored first in 21 of their 28 games. This speaks to the team’s level of preparedness.

• The Canadiens have one regulation-time loss in their last 17 games. They have not lost consecutive games in regulation this season.

• On L’Antichambre, Stéphane Leroux talked about the eight-game segments of the Canadiens’ season. They have gone 6-2-0, 52-1, 4-1-3 and, to date, 4-0-0.

The latter should get a boost this week, when the Canadiens play Buffalo twice at the Bell Centre, sandwiched around a visit to Long Island.

Perhaps Brandon Prust, Michael Ryder or Rene Bourque will be cleared to rejoin the roster.

Recovery will take longer for Raphael Diaz. But Tinordi’s play in New Jersey merits another start Tuesday against the Sabres. And maybe the big galoot, for whom the Canadiens traded up in the 2010 draft – will be around for a while.

Once everyone is healthy, Bergevin will have some personnel decisions to make.

May the road rise up to meet the Canadiens GM. May the wind be at Bergevin’s back.

And a happy St. Paddy’s to all HIO readers.

Hickey is buying.

 

 

574 Comments

  1. govenah says:

    Everyone is very complimentary about Tinordi’s first game. Yes he was ok but there we a couple glaring incidents that showed he was not quite ready. The first was him losing his stick(and his man) just behind the net. The second was when he lost the puck on the boards when pressured. Generally he seemed not used the speed at which the other team would get on him. Let’s hope he gets beyond this over the next couple games. If not send him back and let him keep working on it. Great to get a look at the future though. And for sure next year he will be with the big club.

    • DDO_Habs_Fan says:

      The bar was set low…especially with him playing the wrong side. He did fine considering the circumstances.

      “You’re always, always, always looking to make your team better. Always.”- Marc Bergevin

    • deuce6 says:

      Rome wasn’t built in a day.. Veteran players even make mistakes..

      ——————
      Brandon Prust doesn’t have hair on his testicles, because hair does not grow on steel….

    • lady byngo says:

      govenah: I can’t let this go without a reply. I get so mad at Subban when he mishandles the puck at their blueline, behind our net, in our corners, or TRIES to stickhandle out of our end. He never learned to stickhndle so why do they let him? thank god he’s been told to pass coming out of his own end !! About time. I feel better now.thanks.

  2. LeHabfan13 says:

    A question was asked? Could the Habs beat Pittsburgh in a series.. I don’t Really know. All I can say. Pittsburgh have 4-players with 10+ Goals. We have 1. Whether that means anything. I can’t really say.

    I think Better Defence and Goal-tending is the only chance we would have.

  3. frontenac1 says:

    Hey amigos! Check ou the Sens Green Jerseys with the Shamrocks! Ah f*ck it.Go Sens! Erin Go Braugh!!!

    • DDO_Habs_Fan says:

      I’m surprised the Habs never tried this given how large the parade is here…

      “You’re always, always, always looking to make your team better. Always.”- Marc Bergevin

  4. Sportfan says:

    Forgot to mention the Kings have been so stingy with Bernier at one point or another they have to let him go or let him play more, because he’ll want to be a starter somewhere! Personally Edmonton should go for him.
    here’s the link to the article
    http://www.tsn.ca/nhl/story/?id=418420

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  5. Sportfan says:

    Just read this on TSN

    Depth In Boston

    With Chris Kelly down with a broken leg, Kevin Paul Dupont of the Boston Globe reports the Bruins are in the market to add depth to their third and fourth lines.

    He also says the Bruins might look to bolster their blueline and names Ottawa’s Sergei Gonchar as a potential target.

    Why does Ottawa deal so much with Boston

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    • jols101 says:

      The Sens are right in the thick of things despite all of their injuries, it would be a real kick in the arse to the Sens players and fans if they traded Gonchar to a division rival.

    • Mike Boone says:

      Chiarelli used to work in the Ottawa front office. Never underestimate the Old Boys’ Club. How often did Gainey deal with Doug Wilson? Remember how pissed Brian Burke, then at Anaheim, was when Gainey dealt Craig Rivet to San Jose?

      Mike Boone
      Hockey Inside/Out blogger

      • jols101 says:

        Sure, I guess it would all depend on how bad the Bruins want him. If they overpay for him, I am sure Murray would trade him. It would still leave a bitter taste in the dressing room and with the fans.

  6. Timo says:

    Did any of the bruins get injured? Did they, did they? Please?!

  7. frontenac1 says:

    Heineken is a great beer! And there is no saltpeter in it.

  8. Dunboyne Mike says:

    If the East evolves into a three-horse race, I’m wondering what the commentariat thinks of Boston’s Goals Against stat? At 57, the lowest in the league, the only team below 60 (I realise they have a game in hand).

    Bruins have good D, but how much of that stat is due exclusively to Chara?

    • Loonie says:

      Two words….

      Bergeron

      Chara

      • Dunboyne Mike says:

        Why Bergeron? (Not rhetorical)

        • LizardKing12 says:

          Bergeron is a great two way center. He is one of the best defensive centers in the league, most would consider him better than Plekanec. He is also one of the best at faceoffs, he’s currently won 62% of his faceoffs and has taken close to 600 this season. That is pretty amazing.

          • Dunboyne Mike says:

            Thanks.
            Knew he was good, hadn’t realised his centrality was on a par with Chara’s.
            Cheers

    • 24 Cups says:

      Right now, trying to be as objective as I can, I feel the Habs are one of the four teams that appear to have a legit chance at winning the Cup (Pittsburgh, Boston, Montréal and the western final rep).

      17 days until the trade deadline. The Habs could easily put their own 2nd rounder as well as Dallas’ 3rd rounder into play. Same goes for any defensive prospect not named Tinordi or Beaulieu.

      The team is for real. The only uncertainty left will be Montreal’s injury status in late April.

      • Dunboyne Mike says:

        Injuries are such a lottery.
        Boston lose Krejci today, Kelly already gone.
        Pens lose Letang.
        All potentially costly.

        “Right now, trying to be as objective as I can”
        Read, trying to stay as calm as I can!

  9. commandant says:

    The Pens win is huge. They might be two points up but we have two games in hand. Boston also loses one of their games in hand, and now only has 1 left.

    We really might be in this race, who would’ve thunk it?

    Go Habs Go!
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    • Dunboyne Mike says:

      Commandant, would it be fair to say that our speedy, puck-pressure, attacking, non-JM game is ideally suited for games against all our chief rivals but with the exception of Pittsburgh? Do we need a modified strategy for slowing down their rate of scoring?

      Or just play our game?

      • ABHabsfan says:

        I wouldn’t put a lot of stake in that game, if CP even plays an average game for him, Habs likely win 6-3. Pitt scores a lot of goals but I think our defense can play better than they did, I’m not sure Pitt’s D can. Plus Fleury struggles…
        Best case scenario, actually Philly picks up their game and gets Pitt in the first round; but Philthy has some work to do.

        “man, I love winnin'; you know, it’s like better than losin’?”-
        Ebby Calvin “Nuke” Laloosh

    • Mr. Biter says:

      I told you all that games in hand are only good if you win them. Bruins down to 1 GIH and down 1 point to us. The 4 games have almost all disappeared.

      Mr. Biter
      No Guts No Glory

  10. NL Hab says:

    Big Win by the Pens. So that puts us 1 point ahead of the B’s and they have a game in hand. The rest of our schedule looks to be a little easier than the Bruins also. We have big back to back games against the Bruins and Pens on the road on Mar 26th and 27th. We have our last game against the Bruins on Apr 6th in Montreal. 17 more days before the deadline also. This condensed season is moving along very quickly. Regher has been rumored to go to Montreal by a few different sources. I have been saying for several weeks now that he could be a possible deadline rental for the Habs. I also read somewhere today that Gionta is rumored to be moved the summer. This is all speculation of course, but I can see Gionta being moved to make room for a big UFA signing in July. He will be a UFA after next year and surely won’t be offered a contract by the Habs. Interesting times ahead for sure. Thank God Bergevin is the one steering the ship.

    Et Le But

  11. FormalWare says:

    Just watched the NBC second intermission feature on Brad Marchand. He had 23 (!) points, coming into today’s game. Has been a champion at a number of levels.

    As a Habs fan, of course I hate his guts! But that’s just a compliment to him. He is a difference-maker. We may well see the Little Ball of Hate hurling himself at the Ovechkins and the Parises of the hockey world, in Sochi. And I’ll be cheering for him, if that happens!

    WWSD (What Would SubbieDoo?)

  12. Stevie.Ray says:

    Savard is still on LTIR right? Capgeek doesn’t say if he is or isn’t? Does his salary still affect their cap if he is on LTIR? Should we expect Boston to buy him out?

    • Loonie says:

      Don’t know but I had a chuckle last season when Dreger and company said he was attempting a comeback a day after he hosted a golf tournament in Peterborough and made it no secret that his career was over.

    • 24 Cups says:

      He is still on ITIR.

      Boston can’t buy him out and would not want to do so. Same goes for Pronger in Philly.

  13. JF says:

    The Bruins now have only one game in hand on us. Winning the dvision suddenly looks more possible.

  14. HardHabits says:

    There are the top 5: Chicago, Anaheim, Pittsburgh, Montreal, Boston… and they are distancing themselves from the rest of the pack.
    The odds on favourite for last: Florida… also distancing itself from the pack but in the other direction.
    Then from 5th to 29th there is not one gap between teams that is more than 1 point.

    This sprint is now entering its final lap.

    • Sportfan says:

      Always nice to see Montreal in the top 5 :D in a great category

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    • Loonie says:

      Yep. 10 points between 13th and 5th in the East.

      Didn’t look at the West but who cares, we don’t seem any of them till June.

      :)

      The most impressive thing for me about Therrien, his staff and these players is that they do have flaws, some that could prove to be fatal. But they’ve been winning despite those flaws. Hoping they don’t bite them in the butt at some point.

      Losing in heartbreaking fashion is however the only way to learn how to win when it counts.

    • 24 Cups says:

      Dave – Tampa, Buffalo and Washington are also basically out of it. Only 20 games left as well as the 3 point factor.

      As you mentioned, it’s a three horse race to the final in the East. None of the other teams seem to be a legitimate threat although the Rangers still have the talent to do so.

      • HardHabits says:

        The cut-off line is for those teams are their intangibles but anybody who puts together a winning steak is back in it, as Winnipeg has recently done.

        I think it will just go to show how close the remaining 10-11 play-off spots are going to be.

    • NoTinFoilCups says:

      Hey sport, forgot the tankwagon already?

  15. LeHabfan13 says:

    I don’t know how far the Bruins can go. But I think they are the best overall team in the Eastern conference. Only time will tell.

    Montreal, Pittsburgh. Ottawa not too far behind. Right now any one of those teams could win the cup.

    • The Juice says:

      Based on what? Pens have beat the Bruins twice and Habs once…

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  16. The Juice says:

    Pierre McGuire made an interesting reference to the former Pittsburgh Pirates of the NHL. They were apparently the first Pittsburgh team of any sport to wear black and gold. A quick Wiki search yielded this entertaining nugget:

    “The Pirates would later have a connection with Pittsburgh’s next NHL franchise; the Pittsburgh Penguins. In January 1980, the Boston Bruins protested to the NHL over the Penguins proposed change in team colors, from blue and white to black and gold. The Penguins used the Pirates as an example of a NHL team, other than the Bruins, that used the black & gold color scheme. The NHL allowed the Penguins to change their colors as a result of the Pirates using these colors.”

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  17. CHasman says:

    I haven’t read all the comments so someone may have mentioned this already. Playing with Gallagher, Galchenyuk, Dumont, Tinordi and Blunden the Canadiens played with pretty much five rookies in the lineup. If I knew that was happening in past seasons I would have given up on the game before it started. When did we get so deep? Still looking forward to getting Prust, Bourque and Ryder back. And Diaz will definitely help the power play, though I like to see Markov playing with Subban because I have them both in my pool.

  18. jols101 says:

    So from various posts Letang has a LBI but I missed the play that caused the injury. Was it a typical dirty play by the bruins or was it just a freak occurrence ?

  19. The Jackal says:

    Eat it Buffoons!
    Lost by a nose, maybe they should have gotten the Rat to lie some more…

    Boston is so friggin’ dirty. They don’t get called for anything, then they embellish ridiculously. Pisses me off. I hope they fall apart as a team.

  20. habs-fan-84 says:

    man if Krejci is out long term it could really hurt the Bs ….good. Kelly out too, Happy St. Patty’s!

  21. anotherhab says:

    and the winner by a nose ….. oops….the pens!!

  22. toinz says:

    To all those who say the Habs need to trade a centre, they need only look at the Bruins to see what a luxury it is to have extra centremen.

    If Krejci is out for some time, Seguin can play centre. The Bruins lost Chris Kelly earlier this week and have adapted well in his absence as well.

    • HardHabits says:

      Same goes for the defensive depth. If injuries happen, all is not lost.

      The 1972 Dolphins won most of their regular season games on that remarkable 17-0 undefeated run using their back-up quarterback.

      The Rangers for example have struggled because whenever Gaborik, Richards or Nash is injured their lack of depth becomes glaringly apparent.

    • Landof10000lakesHab says:

      Good point. Kelly is a loss, and the B’s will need to find a replacement. Krejci would be a bigger loss, although I am not feeling much sympathy. Seguin is a great C option. The hated B’s are also one of the best face-off teams in the NHL. Having several players who currently are or have played C is key.

      Habs should have two C’s on each line, if possible. When you have only one per line, the C is likely not to be aggressive when setting up for the draw, for fear of getting tossed. The best face-off teams are aggressive on the draw, knowing if the get tossed, there is another C that can take the draw. They are likely to have both a left and right handed C option available as well.

      The Habs top two lines could use a 2nd player to take draws – this could result in improved face-off efficiency for Pleks & DD. It is likley that Galchenyuk will be a top six winger next season, so this should help.

      To your point – agreed – Habs should not be looking to move C’s. Also, there are no other top six C’s on the prospect org chart – this will need to be resolved at the next draft, if possible.

  23. punkster says:

    Br00nz losers, Krejci and Letang injured…deep breath Habs.

    ***SUBBANGIN’ NOW BABY!!!***

  24. HardHabits says:

    Yes. Gotta hand it to the Pens. 9 straight.

    The top 5 teams are poised to run away with the league. And there’s parity… amongst the remaining 25.

  25. Haberoooo13 says:

    definitely will make trade talks more important if Letang and Krejci are hurt.

    Na Na Na Les Canadiens Les Canadiens

  26. habs-fan-84 says:

    awesome we maintain first in the Northeast

  27. Mattyleg says:

    Yay Pens.

    —Hope Springs Eternal—

  28. Mattyleg says:

    Haha!
    That’s some comedy goalie-pulling!

    —Hope Springs Eternal—

  29. Ozmodiar says:

    Krejci hurt. I feel bad for the guy.

    /sips beer. ahhhhh

    Okay, feeling gone.

  30. toinz says:

    Pens lose Letang and the Bruins seem to have lost Krejci…this might be a costly two points and an even costlier loss…

  31. Psycho29 says:

    Oh my….I hope Krejci is OK!!!!

  32. badbalance says:

    Krejci injured, let’s hope he’s out for a while.

  33. naweed235 says:

    and down goes a bruin… Happy st-Patty’s

    • The Juice says:

      +1

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  34. Mattyleg says:

    Just turned on the ol’ telly to see Krejci get pinged.

    Never like to see a guy get hurt.

    (does a victory dance)

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  35. Bill says:

    @Burly: With nearly 15 minutes of ice time in a very tight game against a good team, you know Therrien was liking what he saw from Tinordi. I was amazed at how well he handled the transition to the much faster NHL game.

    So to your question about what happens when Diaz is back, yeah … that’s a tough one. I know who WON’T be sitting: Subban, Markov, Gorges, and Emelin. Bouillon is Therrien’s guy and he loves him, and he has played well, so I can’t see that either. That leaves Diaz vs Tinordi.

    Diaz really helps the power play and is a smart, smart player. Tinordi on the other hand brings an element the Habs don’t have and definitely need. And he was far from a liability in terms of moving the puck and even helped out offensively.

    I dunno. My brain is jamming. Obviously Therrien will make the right call: he’s on a roll.

    Full Breezer 4 Life

    • Haberoooo13 says:

      I think for this year, Diaz will be ahead of Tinordi…that being said, for games vs bruins and Leafs…..

      Na Na Na Les Canadiens Les Canadiens

    • jols101 says:

      Hi Bill, first conversation I had with anyone on this site a year ago when I joined was with you. We had a debate on who would be a regular on the Habs blue line first – Tinordi or Beaulieu.

      You were adamant that it would be Beaulieu and Tinordi was a major long term project. Tinordi is not a regular yet but have you changed your opinion of him?

      • Bill says:

        I was just wrong. He developed fast, didn’t he? Based on junior,I thought Beaulieu would make the Habs well before Tinordi … that was based on seeing a lot of Beaulieu, though, and obviously much less of Tinordi. When you’re wrong, you’re wrong!

        Full Breezer 4 Life

        • Haberoooo13 says:

          I liked what I saw too…but only 1 game so let’s not get ahead of ourselves…it will be 2017 when he wins his first Norris..,;)

          Na Na Na Les Canadiens Les Canadiens

          • Bill says:

            Haha, new debate, who wins the Norris first, Tinordi or Beaulieu?

            Just kidding, haha. But they’ll both be good players. Subban is our Norris guy!

            Full Breezer 4 Life

        • jols101 says:

          Ya, I really like the way he has developed. It was only one game but he did look good. Excited about the Habs blue line in the future.

          • Bill says:

            So much to build around. Tinordi and Beaulieu can’t miss. I’ll wait to see Dietz in the AHL, but he sure is looking good, eh? As Tom keeps saying, there’s a logjam building up at D, great problem to have.

            Full Breezer 4 Life

          • Haberoooo13 says:

            and the SEL’s top defenseman this year

            Na Na Na Les Canadiens Les Canadiens

        • BJ says:

          Bill the only reason Beaulieu did not come up first is that we have Subban, Diaz, Markov as offensive types. Tinordi is the only one with above average size. Had we needed more offense you would have been right. Both will be contributing for years to come (unless MB decides to move Beaulieu for a ready to step in top 3). Otherwise Beaulieu is a keeper..

    • Ozmodiar says:

      Diaz will be back in, no doubt.

      Tinordi might get some playing time over Boullion, but come playoff time, I think it’s safe to say MT will go with Boullion.

  36. Gally27 says:

    Letang may be done 4 season.

  37. jols101 says:

    Anyone else change the channel when NBC did their special on Brad “the tool” Marchand? I sure did.

  38. twilighthours says:

    I’m a big pens fan today

  39. jols101 says:

    Anyone know what happened to Letang?

  40. Rad says:

    Great to see the Habs ink Darren Dietz, one of the best offensive defensemen in Jr. Hockey. Dietz is another Trevor Timmins 5th Round pick, along with Gallagher and Hudon, so doesn’t that practically guarantee success?

    • Loonie says:

      Yep.

      Other fifth rounders of Timmins’

      Dumont, Trunev(meh), Stejskal(meh), Conboy(meh), Valentenko, Grabovski.

      He does damn well in that round. Over 50% hit rate if Hudon and Dietz make it.

      • Boomer says:

        Trunev was a steal at the time he was drafted but hasn’t panned out. Too bad I remember at the time a scout was quoted as saying “if he was born a few days later he might of been a top ten in the following year’s draft.”
        oh well. Can’t complain if later round picks don’t make it. Not like Fischer lol

  41. Andy and the habs says:

    Love fest. About the “ball of hate” Marchand

  42. Habilis says:

    Oh my, the NBC crew is now talking about Marchand being on the Canadian Olympic team…

    No. Just no.

  43. Danno says:

    Milbury the hopeless homer thought the call on Boychuck/Crosby was legit.

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  44. Habfan10912 says:

    I hope someone ask the goon coach how he feels about one of his boys embelisment. Would love to hear the response.

  45. ont fan says:

    Gotta think if MB makes any moves it will be at the GM meetings next week.

    • Loonie says:

      Hope so. What I liked(ducking now) about Gauthier is that when he made a trade he was ahead of the market.

      The Halak for Eller deal.
      The Cammalleri deal.
      The Dominic Moore deal.
      The Kaberle deal.

      They weren’t all great trades but it can’t be argued that he overpaid.

      • twilighthours says:

        I had no problem with him being early on trades but it wouldn’t be hard to argue that he overpaid for kaberle

        • Loonie says:

          He gave up a guy who retired after the season. I don’t think we’ll agree on this issue.

          • twilighthours says:

            He gave up an expiring cap hit for a guy who did not help the team last year and can’t crack the lineup this year. Call it “overpayment” or just call it “terrible” because that is what that trade was.

          • Loonie says:

            Kaberle had over 20 points in just over 40 games for the Habs and has played well this season when called upon.

            I think you’re being too harsh. If your argument is that he could have received a third rounder or prospect for Spacek I’m all ears but Kaberle wasn’t a bad return in my opinion.

          • twilighthours says:

            My argument is that kaberle could have been had for a mid-round pick, or something less valuable than an expiring contract. Hence, overpayment.

          • Loonie says:

            When looking at Timmins’ record I’m glad he chose Spacek instead of a pick.

          • twilighthours says:

            Alternatively, we could have used his money to throw at a big, tough defenseman in the summer. Wasn’t it bryan Allen that everyone wanted? Think he would have come for kaberle’s coin?

          • Loonie says:

            You wanna tie up term and dollars into a guy like Bryan Allen?

            I’d prefer to trade for a good contract rather than give a bad one. There’s probably an argument to be made that Gauthier acquired the wrong player and didn’t bring in the kind of defenseman this team needed.

            But I don’t see the Kaberle deal as awful at all.

            If Gauthier should be crucified for anything here it should be for recommending Gomez and being a jerk when he got the big job.

          • twilighthours says:

            I don’t know Bryan Allen from Adam. But folks around here were hot and horny for him. Point is, there must have on or two free agent D that would have been an upgrade on kaberle. It’s not hard to find an upgrade on kaberle.

            And yes, I also dislike Gauthier for many other things. Those two sound good.

      • ont fan says:

        I think he will make a hockey trade rather than a last minute deal. Not disrupting the team at trade deadline.

  46. habs-fan-84 says:

    I hope Julien just saw Boychuks embellishment

  47. Dunboyne Mike says:

    Late to the party:

    Windsor, I gave a way-too-long answer to your random post on the Chara hit.

    Loonie, I took the bait on your “Who wins without skill” challenge. A shorter answer would have been QB Trent Dilfer, first time the Ravens won the Superbowl.

    • Loonie says:

      The irony in your Ravens post is that I, like Phil Mickelson made money when they won the superbowl.

      • Dunboyne Mike says:

        I NEARLY laid money on a 3-0 Superbowl. Ravens: total shut-down defence and a single field-goal.

        • Loonie says:

          I just had a blonde moment and remembered they won this year’s superbowl.

          I was referring to the 2000 superbowl.

          The Ravens actually cost me a pretty penny this year because I got in on a 7.5 to 1 line for a Pats/49ers Superbowl game.

          • Dunboyne Mike says:

            I’m sure you weren’t alone. It was looking like nothing could come between Brady and a return to the Superbowl — from the moment they were eliminated the year before, his look as the clock ran out…

            Not a Ravens fan but happy for Flacco.

            My OTHER answer, however, was Boston Bruins.

          • Loonie says:

            Boston has a lot of skill and funny enough the two recent teams to win the Cup who were considered “tough”, the Bruins and Kings, both got out of this World goaltending during their Cup victories.

          • Dunboyne Mike says:

            Yeah, I didn’t deny the skill at all – but it’s buried deep in the thread. It’ll come up again and if I can have half a bottle of Jemmie to fortify with me with dutch courage, I’ve have another go!

    • jmsheehy19 says:

      Happy St Patrick’s Mike. Gotta love a day based purely on a colour and alcohol.

  48. Gally27 says:

    Tinordi is already better than Gill and can fight. Screw Gill!!

  49. B says:

    From an Apr.24/2012 article:

    http://www.bakkentoday.com/event/article/id/235167/publisher_ID/40/?DB_OEM_ID=13500

    The Canadiens let Kristo know they wanted to sign him for next season, but they also were supportive of his decision to return.

    “It was getting pretty stressful there,” Kristo said. “It was 50-50 the whole time. I had good talks with coach (Dave) Hakstol. He said that whatever I decided, he would support me. I talked to my family, Montreal, the boys here at North Dakota and I came to this conclusion.

    “Montreal was supportive of me. They weren’t pressuring me too hard, so that’s pretty cool.”

    –Go Habs Go!–

  50. B says:

    Kristo Q&A, Dec.6/2012:

    http://www.bakkentoday.com/event/article/id/251052/publisher_ID/40/?DB_OEM_ID=13500

    Q. You had a tough decision this offseason whether to return to UND or sign with Montreal. Why did you choose UND?

    A. I just kind of weighed my options. Montreal didn’t have a GM or a coach at the time and with all the talk about the (NHL) lockout, I thought this was the best decision to come back to UND. I’m definitely happy and I definitely think I made the right choice

    –Go Habs Go!–

  51. commandant says:

    In Prospect news.

    Dustin Walsh’s College Career is done. He scored but Dartmouth lost to Union, who sweep the series 2-0. Habs must now decide if they want to sign the big and lanky 6th round pick from 2009. Personally I think I’d like to see him in Hamilton, as the Bulldogs are short on Cs.

    Dany Kristo scored, but UND lost in OT. Series tied 1-1. Must win game 3 today.

    Bozon scored 1g 1a in the season finale to tie his career high of 36 goals (he did it in less games this year though) and finish with 90 points in 69 games.

    Dietz had 3 assists and signed his ELC.

    Go Habs Go!
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    http://lastwordonsports.com/

    • Loonie says:

      I’d be shocked if Walsh isn’t signed. He has excellent offensive tools, is a very smart kid and grew up in a great household.

      His family is among the most pleasant and level headed I’ve ever had the pleasure of getting to know.

      There will never be issues of immaturity with him.

    • slapshot777 says:

      If Kristo loses today and gets eliminated can he be signed and go play in Hamilton or do you think that he would want to come to Montreal?

      To you from failing hands we throw the torch, be yours to hold it high.

      • commandant says:

        He will likely want to wait and see if UND gets an at-large bid for the NCAA tournament which is possible depending on what happens in other conference tournaments.

        Walsh and Dartmouth have no chance at the at-large bid, thats why I say he’s done.

        Go Habs Go!
        Check out Top Shelf Prospects, my Team by Team prospect reports
        http://lastwordonsports.com/

    • Mr. Biter says:

      UND lost 2-1 in regulation, not OT (Michigan scored with approx 2 min left in regulation). I’ll be watching the game tonite at 7:00 CST and report scores (except when Walking Dead is on ).

      Mr. Biter
      No Guts No Glory

  52. GuyDoon says:

    Top of the morning Lads!
    I see lots of talk of Tinordi here. The kid did very well.
    I wonder if anyone else noticed a moment in last night’s game involving the kid:
    Clarkson hit one of the smaller Hab at the blueline. Offside call and a scum ensues. Tinordi barges into it, pushing Clarkson back. Looked like Clarkson wanted to go with someone but when he saw Tinordi, he turned about and started tugging at Moen.
    Maybe Tinordi won’t have to fight as much as we think he will.

    EDIT: hehehe. I see Gormdog noticed this too!

  53. The Jackal says:

    Watchin the buffoons vs. the pens. That stupid chipmunk seguin scored a goal. Pens did not too good, hopefully they destroy the buffoons on the scoreboard.

    • Danno says:

      You just watch. Before all is said and done, they’ll split three points.

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      • jmsheehy19 says:

        How Montreal, Pitt, and Boston end up in the standings is going to be huge this year.

        While obviously anything can happen, I’d say they are easily the best 3 in the conference, with Ottawa a step behind due to injuries.

        Assuming all 3 win their first round, two will be guaranteed to meet in the 2nd round, giving whichever of the 3 escape that matchup a distinct advantage.

  54. Gormdog says:

    Tinordi impressed… Normally what takes a big dman so long to develop is his skating and positioning… Tinordi already moves quite well and when your arms are each the length of David Desharnais, your positioning doesnt need to be THAT great to make plays, block shots, tip passes, and throw the occasional body smash… I get the feeling Tinordi is going to wear an “A” for many years on this team… I found it interesting that, in the second period (if memory serves), two Devils were coming down on Tinordi and Bouillon… Tinordi lifted his hand and pointed, very subtly, to the guy going along the boards that he wanted Frankie to take while Tinordi shifted to the middle of the ice… I found it pretty ballsy of Tinordi to “direct” Bouillon but the more I thought about it ther more i remembered all the scouting reports on Tinordi… About his leadership, his ability to take heavy minutes if need be… This stuff comes naturally to him it seems and even though he was paired with a veteran’s veteran, he can’t help but direct plays on the ice…

    I can get on board with a Subban – Tinordi pairing down the line…

    Would seriously deter guys taking runs at PK, and from everything i’ve seen and read, Tinordi can handle 25 mins a game…

    I loved last night when Gio gave Clarkson a little shove as they were coming down the boards… Clarkson responded and shoved Gio back… Within a half second there was Tinordi, towering over him, nothing rough just holding him, containing him… For a split second you could see the look on Clarksons face of “Oh shit, yeah, they have a big guy now!”

    • Mr. Biter says:

      Watched the MSG feed and they talked about Tinordi’s dad’s career ending injury. He was hit in the back of the leg on a clearing pass around the back of the net and it damaged a nerve in his leg and he lost movement in his leg. Actually pretty sad way to end your career.

      Mr. Biter
      No Guts No Glory

  55. TheMostCupsPeriod says:

    Greetings fellow Habs fans. Been a long time since posting, but I’m here daily to get my Habs fill.
    It turns out I have an extra pair of Club Desjardins Sec 221 tickets for next Saturday vs. Buffalo as my wife has jury duty…
    My 11 yr old son and I will be coming in from GTA for the game and I could meet whoever makes me a reasonable offer at one of the statues before the game…
    Hope this isnt breaking any rules….

  56. Alex_425 says:

    Go… Pittsburgh. Woo.

    Yeah, I hate this game already.

    But I’m no expert….

  57. Cee_8ch says:

    I wasn’t anticipating too much from Jarred Tinordi, but he really did exceed my expectations of him. The future of our defence corps certainly looks more formidable. It is interesting to note we took 3 “silly, innocent” penalties last nite – holding the stick, hand on the puck, and delay of game – but no crazy goon type infractions. I guess we leave that to the neanderthals of the Bruins and Leafs.
    And what a blatant missed call on the trip of Eller leading to the NJ goal – but after all, it was Chris Lee!

    • Gormdog says:

      That Ryan White penalty was out of this world stupid… Don’t get me wrong, I play sports and I know in the heat of things bad decisions can be made… But come on, useless holding the stick 200 ft away from your own net is a particularly “special” penalty to take in a tight game…

  58. HabinBurlington says:

    At the risk of trying to push his development, perhaps Tinordi will be able to provide enough solid defence that the need to trade for a dman is alleviated. Assuming Diaz comes back, we have a dilemma in who to sit, perhaps having Tinordi along for the ride is the answer.

    As it relates to getting a forward as a rental, who gets benched? Again, if Prust and Bourque come back, it becomes difficult in deciding who gets parked?

    • Sportfan says:

      We have had a few dilemmas like this and its awesome love how we are stacked!

      http://nickolaisblog.wordpress.com/

    • Loonie says:

      No need to add a forward unless we lose somebody for the season and even then Dumont has shown enough offensive ability that he isn’t an albatross on the third line.

      Regarding Tinordi, he’s really only had one hiccup since shunning ND. His first few games in London, since then he’s been a revelation.

      I think we’ve got a real blue chipper in him and as long as we don’t need him to be a 20 minute per game guy he could be very effective with the team.

      • HabinBurlington says:

        Agree, and I think the London hiccup was the dramatic difference from USHL hockey to OHL hockey. His adjustment period is so fast, and every level he goes to he immediately takes on a leadership role.

        He is an absolute blue chipper. The fact that we have another great blue chipper in Beaulieu is making me drool.

        • Loonie says:

          Yep. Gonna be a lot of defense prospects left out in the cold. Or hopefully used to get an excellent player.

          Can’t develop nine defensemen at once in Hamilton. Some bodies will be moving.

          • Haberoooo13 says:

            I am guessing that Kaberle, Weber and maybe the Cube won’t be back with the Habs.
            Not sure what the plans will be for Stejskal, St Denis and Hagek in Hamilton

            Na Na Na Les Canadiens Les Canadiens

    • likehoy says:

      I highly doubt Tinordi alleviates the need to trade for a dman heading into the playoffs.

      Tinordi had 1 solid game, but come playoff time, he’s still an unknown quantity that we have to ease in… I would rather have Hal Gill on a rental heading into the playoffs than a young Jarred Tinordi.

      I’m afraid his skating will get ripped up with his inexperience.. just remember that Chara wasn’t anything special till his mid-20s.

  59. Sportfan says:

    Last night was fun to watch 3rd period had me gripping my seat and my beer mug for a while haha. Tinordi played really well, good for arm dog on getting a goal and Price was fantastic great game! Blows that we lose first we’ll get it back!

    http://nickolaisblog.wordpress.com/

  60. Gormdog says:

    Carey haters, where art thou?

    18 saves in the third period on the road against the Stanley Cup finalist from last season… Definition of `stealing a game`

    Can we stop with this vague, untrue criticism thrust at Price everytime he goes on a stretch where he DOESN`T play at his usual elite level? Please?

    • Loonie says:

      You didn’t know that saves in the first period were less important than saves in the third?

      Momentum shifts are real, every goal is important and because of that every save is important.

      The “timely save” is nonsense. They’re all timely.

    • HardHabits says:

      Carey has made obvious two games stolen this season. Other games the Habs won CP has had his fingerprints all over the theft. His style of play flies under the radar. He is a cat burglar. He comes and goes, leaving with the goods and nobody even knows he was there.

      As long as Price is playing confident, challenging players and seeing pucks, at the top of his crease when needed and hugging the posts at the right time, he will be dominant.

      Patrick Roy gushes over this kid. That alone is reason enough for me to be on board, but believe me there are many more.

    • Danno says:

      Rat-faced ref Chris Lee robbed Price of a shutout. NJ’s only goal should never have happened – Eller was tripped but no call was made and play carried on resulting in Devils’ only goal of the night.

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      • Chris says:

        The trip on Lars Eller on Harrold’s goal was no worse than the trip on Volchenkov on Armstrong’s goal. What goes around, comes around.

        Montreal has absolutely nothing to complain about in that game regarding the officiating.

    • naweed235 says:

      Come talk to me after the playoffs.

      • Loonie says:

        Save percentage last playoff series.

        .934

        • citizenSanto says:

          Despite empirical evidence, the unenlightened will continue to cling to their ignorance.
          Keep fighting the good fight Tom.

          —————————————
          Hope has two beautiful daughters. Their names are anger and courage; anger at the way things are, and courage to see that they do not remain the way they are. — Augustine of Hippo

    • Boomer says:

      EVERY goaltender has slumps. Peeps are so passionate about the game when the slightest thing goes wrong they look to point the finger at someone. Expectations are ALWAYS ridiculously high for any fan of any team. The forwards need to produce like Gretzky, our defencemen to play like the love child of Bobby orr and Larry robinson, and of course, we expect the goalie to get a shutout EVERY game… If not…
      TRADE THEM ALL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

      ;p

  61. frontenac1 says:

    I thought Seamus O”Blunden and the Irish Tornado played great last night. I’m running out of Green Duds,yesterday was messy. Back to the Saloon. Erin Go Braugh Amigos!

  62. Haberoooo13 says:

    Based on winning %—1st round at this time
    Bos vs NJ Chi vs SJ
    Pit vs Tor Ana vs Det
    Win vs Car Min vs Van
    HABS vs Ott Stl vs LA

    Na Na Na Les Canadiens Les Canadiens

  63. HabinBurlington says:

    Just watched the Habs/Devils game (had to pvr it) , a good hard working and well earned victory with Price providing shut down lock it down goaltending.

    Colby Armstrong with a huge goal and so glad it was pretty, was worried his first goal would be a PK slapshot off his ass and in the net.

    Plex with the winner no surprise, but how about the big stud who delivered the shot. Tinordi is going to be such a nice player, and like a few others the only Hal Gill I see in Tinordi is his height. Watched him play many many times in Hamilton this year, the skillsets are remarkably different.

    Gotta hit the bar soon and celebrate Pittsburghs win in regulation over Boston with all my Leaf and Bruins buddies. Yah I will be gloating, think I will wear by Habs Shirt, Jets Hat and pretend I;m Irish. Haha, who am I kidding, it’ll be jagermeister and beer for me.

    CHeers everybody, Happy St. Paddy’s Day!

  64. HUDSONHAB says:

    First, second or fourth, the Habs are still 13pts out of ninth.
    Happy St Patricks Day.

    ….Hab4life….

  65. HabFab says:

    Graduating Hab Prospects;

    CHL
    Olivier Archambault
    Darren Dietz – signed

    NCAA
    Danny Kristo
    Dustin Walsh

    EUROPE
    Magnus Nygren
    Daniel Pribyl

    NOTES
    Kyle Klubertanz is no longer listed by the Habs as a prospect but Montreal retains his rights until June 30th. He came over and played a season in Hamilton two years ago.
    Dalton Thrower due to having played 4 CHL seasons and a December birthday can opt (like Beaulieu did) to turn pro a year early.
    Magnus Nygren has extended for next season with his Swedish team. Not sure what effect that may have on the Habs signing him.
    Canadiens lose their NHL rights on these guys if they are not signed after this season ends.

    • Loonie says:

      Canadiens can sign Nygren and loan him to a European team to retain his rights. If they don’t have him signed by June 30th he’s gone, due to his age and pro experience and not the year he was drafted.

      Wouldn’t be surprised to see his rights traded considering the season he had.

    • Stevie.Ray says:

      I’m certain Thrower will spend another season in the Dub, although the Blades may need to trade him to start their rebuild. Gives him another year to mature, but maybe playing pro would help him get his act together.

    • Haberoooo13 says:

      Dietz?

      Na Na Na Les Canadiens Les Canadiens

  66. Hab No Fear says:

    Habs have signed Darren Dietz to 3 yrs contract . he’s been a beast this season.

  67. habsinnyc says:

    Here’s another reason why Gallagher is destined for a great career: I got a text last night from a good friend and Devils season ticket holder that Gallagher flipped his 9 year old son a puck during practice. Class act by a rookie.

  68. Phil C says:

    So the Habs have won 5 in a row, they only have one regulation loss in the last 17 games, yet they will give up first place in the conference today. That’s tough competition. Boston, Pittsburgh, and Montreal have separated themselves from the pack.

    GO PENGUINS!

  69. HabFab says:

    And who said Markov has no sense of humour!;
    http://video.canadiens.nhl.com/videocenter/console?catid=66&id=222298&lang=en

    And while at HabsTV check out the latest CH24 and then they have about 10 or so vintage St Patrick saves.


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