About last night …

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We must begin, of course, by tackling your Montreal Canadiens’ goaltending controversy.
There is no goaltending controversy.
Carey Price will ride his two-game losing streak into Carolina and start against the Hurricanes on Thursday night.
He is the Canadiens number 1 goalie, for now and for the future.

Was Price at his best in the Canadiens’ 6-3 loss to the Islanders?

Nope. Four goals on the first 17 shots he faced is not going to remind anyone of Patrick Roy or Ken Dryden or Jacques Plante or … the list of goaltending greats is long in Montreal, all the way back to Georges Vézina,  immortalized in the name of the NHL’s puck-stopping trophy.

In the shadow of the Chicoutimi Cucumber, Price has recently been the Anahim Leak.

He wasn’t great … actually, not even good in that crazy Saturday night loss to the Penguins.

In two starts, against the Penguins and Islanders, Price has a goal-against average of 6.00 and a save percentage of .797.

I’ll wait a minute while a significant proportion of the Commentariat looks up Jaro Halak’s stats.

Then we can chew over The Trade and talk about whether Lars Eller will ever be a Top Six forward. And where the heck is Ian Schultz, anyway?

And all the François Allaire wannabes out there can chime in with learned analyses of Price’s glove hand, the speed of his lateral movements and the vexing issue of whether he goes down faster than … well, I can’t think of a metaphor suitable for a family website.

Price is going through a tough patch. It happens.

He hasn’t stolen any games … but he hasn’t had to. The Canadiens have opened the scoring in 17 of their 23 games, including the loss in Uniondale.

If the Canadiens were clinging to eighth place, with a week to go in the season, I’d be worried about Price. But they remain atop the Eastern Conference, nine points clear of a playoff spot.

There’s time for Price to get back in a groove … and for his teammates to recapture the mojo that carried them through a surprisingly strong start to the truncated season.

I don’t think you can hang the loss to the Islanders on Price. In his rather testy and curt postgame remarks, Michel Therrien said Price might have wanted another chance on the Islanders’ fourth goal – a Radek Martinek long shot that appeared to be tipped in front of the goaltender.

But the game was lost, the coach added, by blown coverages, particularly on the two power-play goals the Islanders scored – bringing their total to four PP goals in two games against the Canadiens.

I thought the game was there for the taking after Brian Gionta’s historic goal – the 20,000th in the Canadiens’ NHL regular-season history – brought them back from a two-goal deficit to a 3-3 tie. But momentum had barely settled in on the Canadiens bench when Martinek put the Islanders ahead to stay.

Notwithstanding their 32-24 shot advantage, I didn’t think the Canadiens troubled Evgeny Nabokov unduly.

The David Desharnais line, superb in Boston on Sunday night, was not a factor on the Island. The most impressive forward in a white jersey was 19-year-old rookie Alex Galchenyuk, who made some lovely passes – including the one that set up Tomas Plekanec to open the scoring – and stepped up his defensive game.

P.K. Subban was minus-2, but he scored a power-play goal, added an assist and led the Canadiens with seven shots on goal. It has taken a while, but I think P.K. has become the P.K. we know and love – a fast, skilled and highly dynamic defenceman who strikes fear into opponents every time the puck is on his stick in the offensive zone … the more so now that his shot is becoming more accurate.

As evidenced by the explosion of goals scored by the Penguins and Islanders, the Canadiens are having issues in their own zone. The defence and supporting forwards have a tendency to wilt under forechecking pressure, with the result that Price has faced higher-percentage shots than he was seeing earlier in the season.

The Canadiens miss Raphael Diaz. And Andrei Markov, who is 34 and skating on knees that are 64, probably should not be playing 27 minutes, as he did against the Bruins and Islanders.

The team is taking a physical pounding. The Islanders outhit the Canadiens 25-17.  Matt Martin and Colin McDonald each had six hits. Ryan White, Colby Armstrong and Travis Moen combined for five.

You have to go back to their Feb. 7 visit to Buffalo to find a game in which the Canadiens outhit an opponent. And they lost that one in a Shootout.

The gang on L’Antichambre noted the invisibility of Travis Moen – signed for three more seasons, at $1.85 million per – and agreed the Canadiens could really use someone to help the valiant Brandon Prust.

But the ideal is a tough guy who can play, a Prust clone who’s taller and heavier.

Sadly for the Canadiens, the Milan Lucics and Chris Neils of the NHL do not grow on trees – or pop up on waiver wires.

But let’s not forget that the undersized Canadiens won in Boston on Sunday – due, in no small part, to the courage of Prust and Alexei Emelin.

And it’s not like they were runout of the dilapidated Nassau Coliseum into the cold Long Island night.

Your Montreal Canadiens played badly and deserved to lose.

Carolina will be a chance to bounce back, for the goaltender and the guys in front of him.

• Wonder what the Vegas payout would be on a parlay that combined the Dow hitting a record high, Canadiens’ 20,000th goal and the death of Hugo Chavez?

 

 

 

542 Comments

  1. SteverenO says:

    Two things I noticed that are concerning:
    1) End of second period, Markov gets caught pinching , leads to a 2 on 1 for the isles, They miss, Markov gets control of the puck skates over the blue and turns back into his own zone. Subsequently falls down and and gives away the puck leading to another great Isles scoring opportunity. That play ends with Tavares giving Price a shoulder to the head. An obviously tired Markov grabs Tavares sweater. Tavares gets called for a penalty at 18:43 of the second period. Unbelievably , Markov is on the ice for the ensuing powerplay.
    Markov played 4 minutes and 21 seconds of the last 5 minutes in the second period. He was noticeably “out of gas”.
    Kaberle , whose last shift was 11 seconds and ended at 14:47 of the second period does not get a chance on the power play.

    The Habs enjoyed the man advantage for 5 minutes and 42 seconds last night. Markov played 5 minutes and 42 seconds of powerplay time. It is quite obvious that Markov is being overplayed to the detriment of both himself and the team.

    2). Josh Georges and PK Subban do not look good together. PK performed much better when he played with Bouillion and Georges was far better with Diaz. It seems as if MT is not against shuffling the forward lines from time to time, but the defensive pairings seem to be cast in stone. Why not play PK with Markov 5 on 5?.

    If it was up to me I would like to see Georges with Emelin and PK with Markov until Diaz returns. The third pairing Kaberle and Bouilion, should get the least ice time UNLESS we are behind in the game, in which case their time should be increased and the more defensive pairing of Emelin and Georges be reduced .

    opinions?

    regards,

    Steve O.

    • ed says:

      I think Emelin is able to communicate well with Markov and that is the plan going forward.

    • Loonie says:

      A larger post coming about this but I big issue this season is Josh Gorges. He is best suited for a style of play that allows him to sit back and stand in between the puck carriers and his goaltender.

      Anybody who’s been on with Gorges has had their struggles. Diaz made the most of his time with Gorges because he isn’t aggressive. With Subban it’s different because Subban is playing the way Therrien wants without the puck for the most part and challenging the puck carriers, that necessitates the correct reaction from Gorges but that reaction doesn’t come.

      Gorges has been awful in the system in my opinion.

      • Mattyleg says:

        Don’t bother with the longer post.
        You’ve been banging on about this for a while now, and we get your point.

        —Hope Springs Eternal—

        • Loonie says:

          Sorry the truth hurts Matty. Gorges’ best before date with this team came the day Therrien was hired.

          • Mattyleg says:

            It’s not about the truth, it’s just that you’ve gone on about it enough for us to understand.
            A longer post is not required.

            —Hope Springs Eternal—

          • Loonie says:

            I’ve mentioned Gorges’ one dimensional nature as a player and the bad contract as reasons to potentially move him before. His play and how it fits in this system are completely different issues and if you’d like to be fair I offered up a scenario under which I’d keep him.

            He is a useful player but the bad outweighs the good at this point in time. If he can change his game successfully I’d be on board with him playing out the duration of his contract with the Habs. But old dogs and new tricks and all that.

          • Mattyleg says:

            Fair enough.

            —Hope Springs Eternal—

      • Habsrule1 says:

        How long would the post be if the Habs were NOT in 1st place?

        I think the staff knows what they’re doing. What will it take for us to just enjoy this and realize, even when the Habs win, there will be players who struggle here and there.
        That doesn’t mean we need to shake things up after every rough patch.

        Go Habs Go!!

        “Fans are great, but the quickest way to start losing is to listen to them.” – Sam Pollock

        • ed says:

          some people enjoy analyzing the game, the players, their performances, and the coaches decisions.

          not everyone wants to post “hurray!, we’re in 1st place! can’t we all just enjoy it while it lasts?”

          why would anyone be interested in simply posting that every day?

          • Habsrule1 says:

            True enough, but it usually sounds more like this guy should go, that guy should go….cause we lost our first game in a month.

            And that gets really old. How come these players are awesome when we’re winning?

            People “enjoy” saying the Ryder trade was bad the day after he gets 3 assists? I’m glad I get joy in other ways than that.

            Go Habs Go!!

            “Fans are great, but the quickest way to start losing is to listen to them.” – Sam Pollock

          • Loonie says:

            My mentioning Gorges should be traded is the first I’ve mentioned a player by name all season in terms of whether or not he should move.

            I’ve advocated for upgrades in certain areas but until today haven’t really said that a guy should be traded.

            I’m not panicking in this opinion either. It’s been forming for quite some time for a number of reasons.

        • Loonie says:

          This isn’t on the coaching staff, the system works if the players win the battles.

  2. Ian Cobb says:

    Kaberle has stepped up his game this year, not a top D or anything. But Gorges, Emilin and even Markov have taken a small step down.
    This is a much faster style of game Therrien plays, that is the biggest reason the errors are so vivid.

  3. commandant says:

    The coaching staff is going to need to watch their lines.

    Yes, DD and Gallagher are great offensive players but their lack of size can make them prone to getting caught in their own end of the ice tonight.

    The Boullion – Kaberle pairing (as well as both have played of late) is our worst defensive pairing. I think we can all see that.

    So you can’t have that pairing and that line out on the ice together, especially on the road. It happened too often last night.

    The line is fine if PK/Gorges or Markov/Emelin are out there with them.

    The Boullion/Kaberle pair needs the more defensive lines like Plekanec or Eller with them.

    Its an adjustment that is especially necessary on the road.

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    • Kooch7800 says:

      I would put the kids back together (G G Eller line)

      Put DD with Ryder and Max. Prust with Gio and Pleks.

      Those lines were more balanced. I really hope Bourque comes back soon as he would really help out with the pleks line

      “Keep your stick on the Ice”

      • Habfan17 says:

        I think these would work better as well. DD’s strength is as a set up guy and Ryder’s strength is his shot. Patches brings the size and net presence.

        Prust, Pleks and Gio are okay so yes, Gally, Eller, Gallagher. More balance. less focus from the other team on the young guys. It worked before!

        Habfan17

        • Lawrencetown Liquor Pigs says:

          That’s as big a bingo as I’ve seen on here in a while.

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    • Loonie says:

      Regarding the lack of size getting those players caught in the offensive zone.

      Gallagher has shown that he can skate through traffic consistently without sacrificing speed.

      Desharnais had the odd game early in the season where he was late getting back into the Habs high slot area but it isn’t a chronic problem.

      This team has decided to play a pressure system that leaves the areas around their own net exposed, most specifically the backdoor.

      It’s being exploited.

  4. Kooch7800 says:

    It was bizzaro world last night…Scott Gomez scored.

    He now has 1 goal and 2 assists in 15 games with a whopping 3 hits

    “Keep your stick on the Ice”

    • Danno says:

      Boone said “Wonder what the Vegas payout would be on a parlay that combined the Dow hitting a record high, Canadiens’ 20,000th goal and the death of Hugo Chavez?”

      AND a Gomez goal???

      An astronomical payoff!!!

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  5. HAB - Have A Beer says:

    Don’t put all the blame on price. The Islanders are way worst than we are on the back end and we couldn’t beat them. it wasn’t a goal-tending problem. Gotta put the puck in the net and we got beat up pretty good on “D” last night a little like the 6-0 Toronto game.

    If they play like that in Carolina. we’ll come away with the same results. I don’t care who the Goaltender is.

  6. Mattyleg says:

    You know what was strange about last night’s loss?

    This morning’s walk in to work.

    Felt kinda… crappy.

    I was trying to remember if I always felt like that after a regulation loss, but we hadn’t lost in so long that I’d forgotten what it was like. I didn’t watch the TO blowout, and our loss before that was Feb. 6. We were playing Boston (which meant my expectations weren’t high) and it was only 9 games into the season (which also meant my expectations weren’t high).

    So, yeah, it feels weird to lose.
    Didn’t think I’d be saying THAT this season.

    —Hope Springs Eternal—

  7. Chris says:

    My 5 cents (stupid loss of pennies)…

    P.K. Subban did not have a strong game last night. He had a strong offensive game, with a bullet of a power play goal and an assist.

    But he was on the ice for two power play goals against, as well as Tavares’ insurance marker and the empty net goal (which doesn’t really count, so that -2 is a misnomer). But more importantly, he made some ghastly plays in his own zone. That turnover to Michael Grabner (who I thought was the best player on the ice last night) was absolutely terrible, and he had a few other plays that were just inexplicable. Subban wasn’t alone in that, though…Markov played terrible last night.

    The defence does miss Raphael Diaz. As much as he doesn’t clear the net or throw big hits or do all the other things that so many here think you have to do to be an NHL defenceman, he does get the job done in his own zone and most importantly he doesn’t give the puck away easily under forechecking pressure.

    To that end, the much maligned Tomas Kaberle played a very good game, in my opinion. The size aficionados will never appreciate Kaberle because of what he does not bring, but Kaberle made some very clever plays to get the Habs out of their defensive zone, making perfect tape-to-tape passes or chip passes that sent the forwards out of the zone with speed. He was on the ice for Grabner’s goal, but he was the only Canadiens defender who wasn’t clueless on that play, as he was engaged with the Islanders forward in front of Price while Grabner was abandoned off to the side of the net by Ryder. Bouillon was in no man’s land. Kaberle was also on for the Martinek winner, but that one was on Price. Kaberle ends up with a -2, but that is a case where the +/- stat was very misleading.

    For my money, Josh Gorges needs to step up. He’s been a non-factor this season. He’ll never be an offensive guy, but his passing and puck battles along the boards have been well below his usual level of play this season.

    Looking at the Eastern Conference standings, it is remarkable that three bottom feeders from a year ago are in the top five and well poised to grab playoff spots in the spring. Montreal is first in the East, and Toronto is gamely hanging in there with a surprising team defence (8th in the NHL in goals against) and an offensive star in Nazem Kadri. They were my dark-horse for the playoffs this year because of their offensive balance, and that pick is still looking good. Carolina looks like they could run away with the Southeast, although Tampa will have another hot streak and the loss of Ward hurts.

    • Max says:

      That’s a pretty good analyisis.

      Subban should realize that in order to be a 6 or 7 million dollar defenseman,you have to be a star on both ends of the ice.

      Kaberle doesn’t get much respect and has been playing really well recently.Not easy to do when you’ve been pasted to the bench for a month.

      Gorges has been awful this year and is overpaid by about 3 million.

      Diaz is certainly one of the team’s best defensemen and is missed greatly.He is very smart with the puck and has great positioning but because he isn’t 6’5,250,with three teeth,most people rag on him here.

      • Mattyleg says:

        Players don’t play to their contracts. They play as well as they can. Saying that there is some kind of ‘performance standard’ for a contract value is a bit ingenuous, which is why you think that Gorges is paid too much. Gorges is paid exactly what he is worth.

        —Hope Springs Eternal—

    • PureGuava says:

      I tried to explain to my 10 yr old hockey-playing son why Gorges should never be allowed on a PP unit, and then – as if almost to prove my point, Gorges put a pass into one of the forwards skates and they lost the zone.

      He is not a great passer and has no shot. He’s essentially a 3 million dollar a season shot-blocker that would die for the team if he was asked to – but sometimes that just isn’t enough. I love guys like him at a million five a season…..Thanks Gauthier.

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    • ebk says:

      with rounding, it would actually be 0 cents, which is what your write ups are worth :)

      You are correct, they do miss Diaz, Gorges has struggled all year but since Diaz has been missing, he has absolutely sucked. Diaz has probably been their best D man this year.

      PK still over handles the puck but his negatives are far out weighed by his positives.

      Kaberle has shown he can still play in the NHL, Hopefully MB can move him and clear that salary off the books.

      • Chris says:

        Nice shot!

        Totally agree with Subban…his positives do far outweigh the negatives. Last night was a great case where the stat sheet didn’t tell the story. Subban has had many games where he was pointless and yet was far, far better than he played last night when he had 1 G + 1A.

        I don’t know what is up with Gorges. He doesn’t look out of shape, but his speed seems diminished this year. He’s still blocking shots, but the rest of his game has really deteriorated. I still think he is a valuable player, but it is perplexing to see him struggling so much.

        • ebk says:

          Not sure if there is anything wrong with Gorges other than it’s a down year for him. It happens.
          Diaz, Subban and Emelin are all better than last year, Markov is back and that means the Habs D is much improved. Think in years past, the teams D was so bad, that we noticed all the other players making more mistakes than he was, now they don’t make as many, so his are more noticeable.

    • ed says:

      Chris, Subban looks too big and too heavy out there. His hesitation to make a decision was terrible last night, but his acceleration is also not up the standards of last season.

      • Chris says:

        Subban does look too heavy. Drew Doughty really bulked up in his last year of junior (both good weight and bad weight) and you could really see how much the extra weight affected his speed and acceleration.

        Extra weight is not always a good thing for these guys. I think Subban can play closer to 200-205 and still be an elite defenceman. He doesn’t need to be 215-220. His speed and skating is his edge, but he’s trying to bulk up to give his hits more power. Lidstrom played his career at 6’1″ and 190-195 pounds, and he was the best defenceman in the NHL for two decades. You can be effective by just outsmarting and outskating your opponents.

  8. Max says:

    While Price has the pedigree and mechanics of a solid goalie,I find him to lack that killer instinct.The one which separates the great goalies from the average/good goalies.He seems to be very non-nonchalant and probably wouldn’t go down fighting for the CH if he really needed to.He is a celebrity and a rock star amongst many hab’s fans, but all he really needs to do is to concentrate on being a goalie.

    As for Galchenyuk,you can easily see the potential for greatness is there.I think this guy will be a serious threat in about 2-4 years,once he gets used to being in the NHL and gains more confidence and trust from his coaches and fellow players.

    What’s up with his skating stance though? I’ve never seen a player who skates or cruises with the puck with such widely separated legs.You could drive a car through that leg gap at times.

    • Cal says:

      That is power skating. Chucky is going to get faster and stronger on his feet.

    • Kfourn says:

      The wide stance is for quick left-to-right movement. He’s a dangler, and that stance allows him to move quickly from one side to the other as well as put the puck through his legs and fake the defender out.

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  9. sCOTT1243 says:

    People, people people…Man sometimes the stuff I read on this site is crazy.

    We are first in the East! Does anyone really think we are going to win every game? Price had a few bad games, just like DD, Patches, White, Gionta etc etc etc. It happens. He’ll steal games for us we shoudln’t be worried.

    Its cool that people have opinions, and talking about a game that we lost is natural, but the repetitive garbage that is spewed here is comical.

    Halak is gone get over it. Price is here to stay, support him.
    You wanted Gomez gone, he is gone. Some of you didn’t like Cole, bu buy. Yes we need to trim the fat on but you can’t have a team full of Crosby’s.

    Whats the end result here? Get into the playoffs? If so we are obviously looking like we will make them, then lets deal game by game when that happens.

    Enjoy the Habs for where they are right now…1st.

    • Kooch7800 says:

      Halak got lit up last night as well. I wonder if in St Louis they are calling for his head?

      there would be a line of teams that would take price off our hands. He is a number one goalie and is in the top 5 goalies in the League in my opinion. Our team defense in the last few games leaves a lot to be desired.

      “Keep your stick on the Ice”

  10. Danno says:

    Looking ahead, if Habs take four points or more in the next three games I’d say it was a successful road trip. Not an insurmountable task.

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  11. krob1000 says:

    Let’s turn the tables ….
    start analyzing the Habs last 20 goals…how many of those “should have been stopped” as suggested by the commentariat on here?
    Give it a rest…he is a top goaltender for sure.
    Seriously….how many Habs goals have been of the “unstoppable” nature? The goals Price has allowed were actually more difficult then the ones the team scores….to me that is still better goaltending.
    I can’t recall too many open net goals for the Habs this year…or too many guys left alone…..a lot of rebound goals…which guys on here blast PRice for.

    • Habsrule1 says:

      Agreed.
      It’s almost funny reading the comments about how stoppable every shot is and how Price should basically have nothing but shutouts.
      There was even a fuss when the Habs lost 2-1 in a shootout cause Price should not have let the 1 goal in regulation get by.

      Go Habs Go!!

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  12. Ian Cobb says:

    The Islanders played rope-a-dope with us last night, along with Mtl. having a very bad night standing around in our end watching instead of attacking the puck.

    Don’t jump all over Mr. Price for a poorly played game in our end. No way that you can give any NHL player that much time and space in our end, let alone give Moulson and Travarus all day to put it in. Where is Hal Gill these days.?

    This club has beaten us twice in the past two weeks by playing very steady in their own end’ not giving us very much time to set up plays.

    I am not unhappy one little bit as this very good coaching staff of ours, gets the boys into their system on the fly. We are still a work in progress, and will be just that over the next 12 months. We can only get better and have already risen to the top this year, from the flu bowels of the NHL.

    Now its onto Kurk Mullers large men’s squad and the Staul brothers on Thurs. Our smaller forwards better keep their feet moving in high gear in this game, or end up a grease spot on the boards.

    • The Cat says:

      I just seen the replay on canadien express, 2 of the 4 goals were very stoppable, Price was too slow. I was under the impression that elite goaltenders bail out their D-men’s poor play once in a while. Of course its a team game, but he was slow IMO

      [Disclaimer]: I’m a hockey fan. I care about the habs, but probably not as much as you.

      • Ian Cobb says:

        Price was off a little as well, no doubt.

      • Kfourn says:

        Oh get over yourself, no goalie in the league is going to stop 4 out of the 5 goals that were scored against him last night. Plus he stopped several odd man chances in the game…and there were a lot of odd man chances, so stop spewing your BS on how he doesn’t bail his defence out.

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        • Habsrule1 says:

          Voice of reason, Kfourn.
          People always seem to need to bash someone here.
          You never hear how he bailed out the whole team on most nights, but you hear all about the “unstoppable” (according to the peanut gallery) goals after a loss.

          Go Habs Go!!

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        • TheLogician says:

          sounds like someone’s in love…

          he’s soooooo dreeeeamy.

  13. The Cat says:

    Price tries to be too smooth I think, doesnt move his ass nearly fast enough back there. Has to have anger when a goal is scored on him, not disappointment.

    [Disclaimer]: I’m a hockey fan. I care about the habs, but probably not as much as you.

    • boing007 says:

      Someone should spike his water bottle with Tabasco sauce.

      Richard R
      Price is an oyster. Unfortunately not all oysters produce pearls.

    • Ian Cobb says:

      Right! just like when someone steps on your tail!! Cat!

    • Ozmodiar says:

      No offense, but I find it a bit comical when cyber coaches have tips on how these professionals should play.

      When Price loses, he’s lackadaisical. When Price wins, he’s cool and efficient.

    • Luke says:

      He doesn’t have disappointment. You are only guessing that by reading his body language. What he has is acceptance.
      The puck is behind him. He accepts the puck is there and moves forward. Being angry or disappointed that a goal is scored doesn’t help. Accepting and moving on does.

  14. WindsorHab-10 says:

    I said right after the Boston win that Budaj deserved & earned a start against the Islanders. I just don’t like Price’s body language, on his knees all the time & just hoping that the puck somehow hits him.

    On the brighter side, The Boston Gooins up 3-0 against the Caps only to see Washington embellish their way to a 4-3 win. Was that sweet or what? Gotta go & catch Julie’s press conference after that loss.

    • Habsrule1 says:

      They need to play Price and let him break out of this funk. Playing Budaj probably would not help Price at this point, and the fact is, if we want to go anywhere at all, we need Price at his best.

      Go Habs Go!!

      “Fans are great, but the quickest way to start losing is to listen to them.” – Sam Pollock

    • Luke says:

      He is on his knees all the time because the majority of goals are scored along the ice. It’s playing the %.
      His glove hand looks “weak” because given time and space shooters target ALL goalie’s glove side high… because they are all covering the bottom of the net.
      Were he standing more, they’d shoot low corners. And if you think he looks bad getting beaten high glove, you’ll think he looks worse getting beaten low stick-side.

  15. boing007 says:

    How wonderful, the government is trying to come up with laws that people that do that kind of thing can be charged and arrested for it. I don’t think so. I guess it will ensure that the new prisons that they’re building will fill up more quickly.

    Richard R
    Price is an oyster. Unfortunately not all oysters produce pearls.

  16. krob1000 says:

    lol..Ryder gets three assists creates other opportuniteis and somehow he is the one knocked on here. H ehelps the pp get 2, creates the other with a strong forecheck and still crapped on?
    MAx and Dd had horrific games, White, Moen and Armstrong were painful to watch…even PRust and Eller were horrible in our end and on the pk whichis unusual. The PK and d zone coverage has gone very passive all of the suddne with a lot standing around and that allows players to quickly sneak in behind and get into open spaces. Sticks are not in lanes…
    D are having a problem communicating and bopth ending up on one side far too ofter.

    On the one gaol Pleks charges outtot he blueline…misses the block…leaving a 3 on 2 in the slot. I understand he was trying to pressure because Ryder wasn;t in apoistion too…but that was a big gamble. I would have preferred himto stay with his man down low and roll the dice with the 75 foot shot. There was no time for Ryder to switch up with him….I didn;t see any obvious communication maybe something was said who knows?

    SImple correctable problems….Diaz’s poise is muhc mssed.

    Ryder and Galchenyk were the two best forwards IMO and someone HAS to tell Galchenyuk field goal don;t count ….this kid has a rocket but always misses high..he is giving NHL goalies too much respect trying to make the perfect shot. See Pacioretty please…or GIonta…they score all the time on pucks that shouldn';t go in but do because they have heavy shots…as does Glachenyuk….use it kid…but hit the net!!!

    • boing007 says:

      True, Galchenyuk has missed dozens of shots since the beginning of the season that he used to make with consistency in the juniors.

      Richard R
      Price is an oyster. Unfortunately not all oysters produce pearls.

      • Habfan17 says:

        I tend to cut him some slack. He did not play last season and after a half season in junior, was in the NHl at 18 years old. Therrien is working him in and trying to keep expections realistic for him. He will be fine.

        Habfan17

      • Luke says:

        He’s not playing in the juniors. he’s not matching up against 16year old defensemen who will have a career in marketing.
        He’s playing against NHL defensemen who don’t give him the time and space. They don’t allow him to the same spots on the ice. He has to learn, re-train himself actually, how to find the spots to shoot from. Once he does he’s still got an NHL goalie to beat…

    • Habfan17 says:

      What annoyed me with Pleks was that brain dead penalty he took off the draw when the Habs were starting their power play. A player with his experience should know better than to put his stick into the midsection of the opposing player. He is supposed to be a leader and a top centre. That was unforgiveable to me. If that was White, would he have been benches for a few shifts? Had the Habs scored on that PP, maybe the game ends up different.

      Habfan17

      • Ozmodiar says:

        There’s always some contact after the draw. In this case the player dove, and the ref fell for it. Apparently, he wasn’t the only one.

        • Habfan17 says:

          Still, he knows what calls are being made and he pushed his stick in when there was no reason to. All he had to do was shift over and block him. When you use your stick, you get called. I don’t know how anyone can say he dove!

          Habfan17

          • Ozmodiar says:

            All he had to do was move over, huh? I wonder why he didn’t think of that. Sounds easy enough. :)

            If you don’t know how someone can say he dove, I guess you could always watch a replay.

          • krob1000 says:

            NObody knows what call a are being made..that is the problem. That type of thing happens all the time on draws with no call…they could call an interference,trip or slash on virtually every draw if they wished. I thought that was weak. There were several iffy calls..but it waws Tim Peel…that is always the case when refs it appears. The Eller one they called a trip was bizarre too…..he nudged the guys ABOVE the waist…the guy fell but because of how far back the ref was he called it a trip…that one really ticked me off.

          • Habfan17 says:

            @ Ozmodiar, I have seen the reply and for all you can tell, he lost his balance. Bottom line is Pleks knows the Refs are calling infractions wen sticks are involved, warranted or not and she should not have done it. Period!

            Habfan17

    • 24 Cups says:

      Rob – to be fair, he was -1 after getting three assists. That means he was on for four Islander goals (not that it means he should take the blame).

      I think one of the issues is that Ryder appears to float and glide. This is perceived as being lazy or coasting. Mind you, most pure goal scorers do this a fair bit. The Big M being a prime example (not that I’m saying Ryder is in the same league as Frank. BTW, Frank Mahovlich is no longer a senator. For the life of me I couldn’t figure out why. Then it dawned on me, he’s 75! Yikes.

      • krob1000 says:

        No that means he was on for 2 as his 2 pp points don’t earn him a plus. One of those goals was an empty netter. He was even…and Pleks to me was the one who vacated his post down low to charge the point. Ryder and the D share some blame too though.

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  18. habsfan 1954 says:

    I think MT was right blown coverage in our own end. Price has been good but not great.The problem IMO is that Price does not show any emotion and we think he does not care. Goalies have always been off the wall. Subban is finally showing maturity. Management have taken Subban to school and he is listening and learning. We are going to have bad games like last night but we are headed in right direction

    • boing007 says:

      One of the reasons that the Habs have bad games like last night is because they are still learning.

      Richard R
      Price is an oyster. Unfortunately not all oysters produce pearls.

  19. Oh and as for how we played as a team, apart from the first period, we were thrown around like a bunch of smurfs. Hit’s after the call, cross checks pushing us down (Gionta, Gally, Chuky, Prust, you name it). Seems even The Islanders have zero respect for us. We need to, unfortunately hurt a half dozen players so everyone gets the message. It was hard for me, sitting in a section of red Canadiens supporters to have to admit to some hard-core Isles fans (wuite nice fellows actually) that we are, for the most part, a team of smurfs.

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  20. Funny, on the Gazette article about us getting rolled over, most of the comments don’t support Price, here, it’s almost always a love-fest for the not ready for Vezina goaltender Price.
    Fact is, I was at the game, sitting right behind Pricey on three of the goals and you could see that he knew where the shot was coming from , but just didn’t get over in time or react quickly enough. Is he suffering from post concussion syndrome? A flu? who knows, but this kind of goaltending and his last three starts, will not a Vezina contender make. He’s what we bet on for sure, but at 25 and a few years under his belt, nobody should be queezy when he get’s the start and I always feel that way, because he hasn’t “stolen” a game in a long time for us.

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    • Habsrule1 says:

      You were sitting behind him? Shows you never played goalie. I don’t think any goalie would have been able to get across on those goals. Sometimes you need to give the other team credit.
      Funny how in Boston when they lose, they blame the other team instead of giving them credit, and in Montreal, we bash our players instead of giving the other team credit.
      As if some even had the nads to bash Ryder. I mean, shit, he only got 3 assists. He didn’t score FFS!!

      Go Habs Go!!

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    • 24 Cups says:

      “One of the reasons the Canadiens are better is the players realized they used too many built-in excuses during last year’s organizational craziness.”

  21. Habsrule1 says:

    I think Price will be fine. He’s having a rough patch. everey goalie, and player, have them.
    To be honest, I don’t think he had much of a chance on any of the goals except the 4th one, and I can’t recall if he was screened on it. I heard the stat on the 2 games against the Rangers where he only allowed 1 goal on 42 shots are something like that. Not a lot of shots for 2 games, but it’s still only 1 goal.
    He has 2 shutouts and multiple 1 and 2 goal games.
    I say keep playing him and let him work it out. We’re going to need him at his best.

    I also think that while PK may have had some trouble in his own end, it may have been his best game offensively in a long time. Not only did e score and set up Gionta, but he put countless pucks towards the net that had good chances of going in, or becoming rebounds that could have gone in. His shot is slowly getting more accurate.

    Go Habs Go!!

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  22. Habfan17 says:

    I know some posters wish the Habs would sit out Armstrong and don’t think he is able to keep up.

    In looking at what Bergevin has done, he brought in two players that he and Therrien knew would help change the mind set of the players at a low price and for only one year to help the transition. They are the prototypical, team first type of players. It also gave them there own set of eyes and ears into the dressing room to get a pulse of what is going on. That is my humble opinion. Unlike Gauthier, Bergevin didn’t want to be tied to long term contracts that would hinder a retooling of the team.

    I think if the Habs are still in the thick of things, they would stand pat at the deadline, unless another GM makes an offer too good to refuse. Part of me wants them to see if they can go all the way this season, even though I know they are not legitimate contenders but they have some solid pieces. I would like to see them add more and not get caught up in winning this year if it means hurting the future.

    Habfan17

    • 24 Cups says:

      That about sums it up for me.

      Enjoy the ride and feel good again about the franchise but don’t lose sight of reality and the prime directive.

      • HabinBurlington says:

        I am in both of your camps. I don’t believe long term success should be sacrificed for this seasons playoff run.

        We are a good team, not a great team yet…..

        • JF says:

          Yes. We’re getting there, but it won’t happen this season. Enjoy the good games, shrug off the bad ones, and see where we’re at near season’s end.

  23. Kfourn says:

    This is ridiculous, those bashing Price for last night did you even watch the game? Countless odd man chances, even one 3 on 1 and Price managed to hold it together until that 4th goal (which admittedly he’d like to have back), but the Defence was just aweful. 4 of the 5 goals they scored on Price they were completely untouched in front of the goal or open in the slot…you don’t win games like that. NOT his fault last night.

    Now the Pittsburgh game he was not aggressive enough challenging the shooter, which was his downfall, being a positional goalie. But this game I thought he was not moving too quickly, tracking pucks well, but he just had no help from his defence.

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  24. adamkennelly says:

    no comments yet on how terrible Gorges looks – pretty much every game- I must have missed them cause this crowd is normally fairly observant.

  25. HabinBurlington says:

    Very good summation Mr. Boone, the whole team needs to be better and that does include Price, who appears to be in a funk.

    The team really gets in trouble defensively down low, where it seemed the Islanders were creating 2 on 1’s from a set offense in front of the goalie.

    Hopefully Price and the team rebounds quickly.

    Do wonder if Moen is fighting an injury, rather than a case of being too comfortable.

  26. ed says:

    the Canadiens are playing some kind of “swarming” defensive zone coverage, and it has led to some bad coverage recently.

    there was a goal last time the Habs played the Islanders when Markov left his spot near Price to attack Tavares near the top of the right circle. Taveres waited for Markov to get completely out of position and then slid a pass to the exact spot on the ice – just left of Price – where Markov could have (should have) been.

    Last night, similar things were happening. Two defenceman chasing the puck into the corner simultaneously, Subban and Gorges, leaving 2 opponents open in front of the net – actually one open and the other somewhat covered by our center.

    I have seen Prust, a winger, seem to lose “his man” in front of the Habs net for a goal last night, and on another occasion, Galchenyuk, also a winger last night, seem to skate by our net just as an Islander was scoring – in neither case was there a defenceman or a center anywhere near the eventual scorer.

    Now clearly the “system” has gotten us to 1st place – so it has worked marvelously in the past this season.

    But I think there are several wingers (and Cole was one of them) who are not that “aware” of their defensive responsibilities nearly quickly enough, and that seems to be the key for the “swarming” to actually work.

    • HabinBurlington says:

      I am in complete agreement Ed, out of set positions the team is getting itself disoriented or something, and completely blowing coverages, whether it is on the PK or regular strength.

      • ed says:

        Yes. And also on the rush the team blows coverages. It takes all 5 guys to be aware and adapt on the fly, in this system, and that’s not happening quickly enough lately.

    • Kfourn says:

      I totally agree with this, the Habs defence were pinching in, and the Isles D would take the puck and send a long pass to the neutral zone which led to many odd man chances.

      In the Habs zone, players were completely leaving their man to double team a man along the boards. I would argue that this type of system works well against the slower teams, but against a team like the Isles that pass very quickly and precisely, you can’t leave your man alone.

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  27. barry says:

    Missed last night’s game, but just in case it hasn’t been pointed out, Jaro Halak got pulled last night after allowing 5 goals in 48 mins.

    Regarding Campbell’s comments…Singling out Subban for me smacks of something not right. Is the NHL ready for a black superstar? Are the fans? I find it disingenuous to single out Subban, and contribute to the suspiciously almost universal ‘hate’ opposing teams’ fans seem to feel it is legitimate to harbour and cultivate for PK: There are divers all over the league, Marchand is as prolific as anyone in that department. Boston is known across the league as a dirty team which will use every trick in (or out of) the book to win, including behind the scenes and off the ice manipulation. I was blown away how whiney Julien was after the loss…but he knows what he is doing… and it isn’t nice.

  28. Maksimir says:

    I wish they would bring Blunden up and sit Moen for a couple games.

    Blunden is bigger and faster.. though not really a goon but he can throw his weight around and crash the net.

  29. AlexTheNextOne says:

    Well, we certainly aren’t going to get points in every game, are we? And forget about Chicago, that’s apples and oranges, or rather, humans and super-enhanced robots.

    I would have been happy with just stealing a point last night, which is what I was rooting for in the final minutes, but hey, things don’t always work out.

    I’m no hockey expert, I will say that time and time again here, but I do recall saying a few hours before last night’s game that penalties were going to be our downfall if we took enough of them, and suuuuuuure enough….

  30. Lawrencetown Liquor Pigs says:

    My $0.02 on why Price seems rusty and Ryder is out of the flow is the teams (likely all of them) don’t get to practice enough.

    Price is a fundamental/positional goalie. He’s not athletic in the sense of flopping around to make saves with the back of his heel. He gets in position, plays angles and percentages, and when he is on, he is on. When he’s off he seems to need time to get in tune again. Limited rest and practice time this season leaves little chance for his tune ups. It is what it is.

    Ryder comes in to town on a hot streak and is thrown into action. Then he goes cold in our eyes while he gets juggled around the line up a little while he and the team try to find his place. Limited practices leave little but game time to sort out chemistry and rhythm. Get him set up in his sweet spot in the PP and his goals total will start to creep up again.

    I think some of the confused defensive coverage the last few games should be chalked up to the same reasoning. Practice makes perfect after all, and not getting to work on schemes and planning enough led to the sloppy play. With a new system this season, 6 days of training camp and 90 minute skates every other day are going to manifest themselves in games where the team is not prepared.

    And isn’t overloading the puck side of the ice likely to leave a guy open? I never understood why the talking heads loved this defensive scheme so much……

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    • Habfan17 says:

      Very nice post. Something that I think we tend to over look. My only critique would be going down to quickly to his knees. Even when he is having a good game, I cringe when I see that.

      Habfan17

    • CanadienBoy says:

      I personally think our 4 line s not applying a nuff checking pressure ,really surprise MT can be happy with Moen

  31. HAB-PROFESSOR says:

    PRICE may be the #1, but he is HUMAN BOONE…thereby subject to the hills and valleys of life. He is currently in a valley, Budaj is on a hill.

    You do not go back with Price just because he is the “#1″… thats how you lose hockey games…its called riding the ‘hot hand’..do it.

    coaching error. (one of the few so far)

    So what if they won in Boston? that does not nullify their need for a PRUST++ player. In 7 games (playoffs are what matters remember) Boston will dismantle us.

    and, your last point of significance was about DIAZ???
    wow, if we need DIAZ to make the difference we are done… he doesnt strike fear into anybody from the NHL to Junior… and Kaberle has stepped up his game.

    The bottom line (and i’ve been saying this for 4+ years here) if you’re going to have a #51, #11 and capitano and a georgy… then you have to balance that or offset that ‘image’ with guys well over 6′ that can play with grit, skill and hit in the North American Grit style…

    we are moving in that direction, just a forward and defensemen shy of being a cup contender.

    whats the solution?

    georges/Diaz for a ‘pronger’ type
    bulldogs/picks for a ‘parros’ type


    The N.A.G. (North American Grit) effect is the only path to success…
    without PRUST we’d be a total BUST

  32. JF says:

    So far this season, the Habs have reacted well after a bad game. They followed up their sluggish start against the Leafs with four victories and the 6-0 pounding with a string of 11 games in which they got at least a point. So for the moment I’m not too worried, but they’ll need a good game against Carolina on Thursday. It starts with Price, but the defence needs to be a lot better. Lots of poor positioning and blown coverage, too many looks at the goal from the blue paint. A good solid practice in which they work on defensive zone coverage and protecting the front of the net should help. The defence obviously misses Diaz, but the guys on the ice have to find a way to get it done.

  33. JohnBellyful says:

    NEW YORK – Embarrassed by accusations that its players are portraying victims to draw penalties for imaginary fouls, the National Hockey League plans to come down hard on “those who would dissemble.”
    Colin Campbell, the league’s director of hockey operations, told reporters Tuesday “there’s no place for feigners in the sport. No one likes deception. We’re trying to clean that out of our game, and its got to be done soon.”
    Campbell said there has been rash of incidents this season where players have “exaggerated being shoved from behind, cross-checked or head tapped, making it appear they have been badly hurt, when, in fact, they only missed a few shifts, a game at most.”
    Campbell gave as an example of “a player forgetting hockey isn’t soccer” a play that occurred during the Boston Bruins-Montreal Canadiens match Sunday, won by the Canadiens.
    “PK Subban gets hit and throws himself into the glass as if he had been shot out of a cannon when it’s pretty obvious there was no cannon around. If we start calling those penalties for embellishment, maybe teams stop doing it. Until we take charge of that it’s going to be an issue.”
    Campbell’s criticism sounded eerily similar to points made by Bruins coach Claude Julien after Sunday’s loss, the only difference being Julien delivered his comments off the cuff while Campbell appeared to be reading from a script.
    “Embellishment is something that embarrasses the game, and does a disservice to actual victims whose pain is real,” he said. “You see a guy get nudged and collapse as if he’s been shot, that’s a slap in the face to the players who got punched in the nose, it’s a kick in the groin to guys who are kneed.”
    Campbell said Brendan Shanahan, the official in charge of handing out supplementary discipline, has been instructed to adopt a hard line with offenders, “to put an end to histrionics. It’s tarnishing the league’s image.
    “We’re becoming a laughing-stock, again, and it’s got to stop,” he said. “European sports shows are showing clips of hockey players falling down like rag dolls, and making jokes about big boys wearing armour getting knocked over with a feather.”
    Campbell said first-time offenders will receive a one-game suspension (“Critics’ Choice”), second-time offenders three games (“Golden Globe”) and serial offenders five games or more (“Oscar”).

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  34. The Cat says:

    Im not talking about last night cause I didnt see the game. But Im curious as to why hab coaches never yank Price compared to other coaches around the league. Im not saying being zealous with the yanking is a good thing either. But looking at the stats and considering the game against Pittsburgh, 3goals on 15 shots vs NYI, even as a way to shake up the team, it is never done.

    [Disclaimer]: I’m a hockey fan. I care about the habs, but probably not as much as you.

    • Lawrencetown Liquor Pigs says:

      I’ve often wondered that too. If he doesn’t have it on a given night, he doesn’t have it. It’s not like he’s putting in time on the factory floor for 8 hours whether he wants to be there or not…… Pull the plug, cut the losses for the night.

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    • Danno says:

      It’s part of Michel Therien’s Personal Development Program

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  35. 24 Cups says:

    Time to look ahead to Thursday in Carolina. I hate to look at a competition this way but the Hurricanes may be undermanned in terms of injuries.

    Ward, Ruutu and J. Staal will definitely be out. LaRose, Pitkanen and Ellis are on the limp. With Ellis down, Justin Peters got the nod last night. He could also be the gaolie that the Habs face.

    I’d start Price in net and then split the games between Price and Budaj on the weekend in Florida. Speaking about the state of Florida, the Panthers have injury woes of their own while Tampa has dropped out of the playoff picture during the past few weeks. 5 out of 6 points would be great which would give the Habs 10 out of 16 during this two week rollercoaster ride.

    Make it so, #1.

    • Cal says:

      Habs have lost to their “bête noire” twice now. Let’s see them pull up their socks with the 3 upcoming games on their southern swing. I’d like to see Ryder pot one or two, but he’s been Mr. Assist thus far.
      Eller’s line has to get going points-wise. After 23 games, I can say so far so good. C’mon Habs, spoil me with some more wins!

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      • 24 Cups says:

        Cal – Let’s just make it 4 out of 6 points. That would give the team 36 points in 26 games. Averaging just a point a game for the rest of the season puts the Habs in the playoffs. Add a few more, and they may well dodge a Boston and/or Pittsburgh matchup in the first round.

        In general, I think the team is firing on all cylinders. The only underperforming Habs appear to be Gorges, Moen and Ryder (a bit unfair to him).

  36. MrNax says:

    Seriously, guys? Seriously? Comments about Price’s style? He is regarded as one of the best goalies in the league! He’s going through a tough stretch, no doubt, but that doesn’t require a changing of style, does it? This is the team’s first regulation loss in 12 games! His style can’t be THAT bad….

    Rgarding Diaz’s absence: sure, he’s better than Kaberle, but that’s not why we lost. We lost because of missed defensive assignments.

  37. Habfan17 says:

    @ habs001

    With reference to your post on Eller.

    Stats do not tell the whole story and players develop at different times. All the teams thought that Doug Wickenhieser was a lock, big strong and lots of points. Alexandre Daigle! What about Cory Locke? He had seasons of 151 points and 118 points as a junior. Was CDn Major Junior player of the year. Di Okay in the AHL, but could never crack the NHL, even with the “new” rules that make being a smaller player a possibility in the NHL.

    Habfan17

  38. frankcasting says:

    If CP is going to go through a rough streak like we all do in life, I prefer he do it now, mid-season, when the team was going 7-1-3, and when a week from now, nobody will remember it. Let’s just hope he stays healthy until the playoffs, and gets a chance to turn it on to his max potential when it counts.

    Loving the Habs since 1965

    • Habfan17 says:

      Yes, better now than in the play offs

      Habfan17

    • 24 Cups says:

      That’s one of the reasons I like to judge players (and the team) in 8-10 game segments. Maybe in a shortened season it should be 6 game chunks.

      Price was weak on the 4th goal. Those awkward glove side saves are his Achilles Heel. But if forwards and Dmen can improve with experience who’s to say that a 25 year old goalie can’t?

      Same goes for DD and Gallagher on the 5th goal. Both these guys have been playing great but DD lost the draw and Gallagher blew right past his coverage. That goal was on both of them.

      Some people make the point about Ryder’s three assists but he somehow came out of the game as -1.

      A win against Carolina on Thursday will mark the half way point of the season. Maybe that will be a good time to evaluate the team as well as individual players. Much more beneficial than doing it on a nightly basis. With a few exceptions, it should be a stellar report card.

  39. Mavid says:

    woke up this morning and the world is still spinning..good..this afternoon I get to have a deep cleaning and minor gum surgery..oh the life of a senior…on to Carolina and hopefully another winning streak…GO HABS GO.. see you all when I am awake again

  40. Old Bald Bird says:

    While one can see that almost every goal on Carey is excusable, his body of work lately is surely lacking.

    I am wondering if Price should bother standing at all. Perhaps he should just stay on his knees and save energy. (I jest only in part.)

    Based on some recent games, does the team now play a better game in front of Budaj? If so, what to do?

    Does the loss of Diaz affect the team so much?

    A lot of brain cramps probably indicate that the team is mentally tired. I can understand that getting up for the Islanders after the Boston match can be problematic. We feel it as fans too. How many of us watched the game with heart pounding and adrenalin pumping?

    • Habfan17 says:

      I have never been a fan of Price’s style, dropping to his knees so fast. I wish he would learn to stay up longer. I am sure the other teams have seen the video and notive he drops almost instantly.
      price is a very good goalie and they all seem to have their quirks, but watching him slide from post to pst on his knees so much makes me nervous.

      Habfan17

    • Chris says:

      When Price is confident, he stays on his feet much longer and his cross-crease movements are quite quick despite looking slow because of his body positioning when he does it.

      But when he’s off his game, as he has been the past couple of games, things aren’t so grand.

      Loss of confidence happens to every NHL player. I don’t think leaving Price in net to be shelled for 7 goals against Pittsburgh was great coaching, but Therrien hasn’t made enough glaring mistakes to permit too much questioning of his decisions.

      I’m not at all worried about Price.

      Josh Gorges, on the other hand…he’s not looked all that strong for the entire season.

  41. smiler2729 says:

    Hilarious! Some, not all, seem like they’ve been waiting for a crap game from the Habs so that they can spew their “they suck, waive ‘em, trade ‘em” bullpucky.

    Get a life, really…

  42. remi_10069 says:

    Mtl Canadiens – Cole + Ryder = a much worse team. Simple math. Math don’t lie, have an opinion or care, it just does. MB just gone and done something very stupid.

    PK looked good at one end of the but bad at the other. I’ll take him playing D.

    Time to give up on Moen. Waive him, he’s not helping the team in any way. Colby isn’t going anywhere, can’t move someone you just got now can you? Not without looking stupid (even though you were proven to be stupid by the equation at the beginning of awesome post)

    Galc gets dumped into the bench and nobody does anything, really? You think that makes the team feel good? Prust was probably thinking “fuck it, my head still hurts from Lucic, i’ll let the other 3.5M worth of character take care of this”

    pipes

    • SlovakHab says:

      So Ryder’s 4 points in 3 games is worse than Cole’s 1 goal in 2 games since the trade… okay.
      Cole 21 games … 7 points
      Ryder 23 games … 18 points.

      cool, great math.

      And 2 years from now, Cole will be even more productive at 37, we both know that too. His salary cap hit of 4.5 would be awesome to have at that stage.

      Your post is too awesome for me to keep going. You surely know your hockey and in my opinion, you should have a website or a blog at least. Don’t waste your talent here.

      • remi_10069 says:

        I imagine if you played you were the points counting type. How many points did I get. Hey, “i tippped that one” in type. “Me, it was me”, pointing at your chest.

        I didn’t say anything about 2 years from now but guess what? Cole will still be a better player. Ryder can’t skate.

        MB shouldn’t be planning for the future when they are rolling and clicking the way that they were. Even if Cole wanted out which I have to believe he did, you can do better than Ryder.

        I’ll send you the link to my blog shortly.

        • krob1000 says:

          YOu do realize that Ryder is very strong on the boards and almost always wins the puck battles inside the blueline on the wall to get the puck out right? His forecheck was the reason for the first goal, his beautiful little saucer to PK on the pp and poise on the pp have it looking much calmer and organzied out there.

          The funny thing is he has been doing alright without his biggest strength yet showing….teams are covering him in the slot…BUT …that opens space for others.
          The d system is dramatically different in MOntreal (or at least was) in that is very aggressive that is a big change to adapt to with new linemates and a new team.

          I can’t help but wonder if Therrien wasn’t considering the schedue when he appearst o have went to a less aggressive mode of late….could the 5 games in 8 days be a factor?

    • Habfan17 says:

      Yes, Ryder’s 3 assists last nght show he sucks! Numbers aside, the Habs needed to clear cap space and looking at Cole and his style, having another 2 years at $4.5 million was a risk, not to mention his comments about school and the CBA.

      Ryder may not be as hard on the puck or skate as well, but neither did Brett Hull. They are shooters. It takes different types of players to win.

      Habfan17

      • Lawrencetown Liquor Pigs says:

        This is where this team went wrong with Mike Ryder before. Let him park and shoot, simple. 30 goals for 3.5 million is a steal in the current player market.

        ______________________________________________________
        Double or nothing on the Kraken bet.

        • remi_10069 says:

          A lot of passionate Ryder fans out there. My point was that I think the team is worse with Ryder than with Cole period. If you think they are better, now, not next year or the year after, not after they use the extra cap money to sign Crosby you’re allowed to but you’re wrong. Ryder gets the points but he’s a much worse player than Cole, he’s smaller, softer and slower. I would not have made that move with the team doing as well as they were, I would have convinced Cole to stick around and enjoy the parade!!!

          pipes

  43. homerbowen says:

    Tired of excuses. We’re just not as good as our record. We are what we are, a middle of the road team not unlike what we have been since ’93.

    • SlovakHab says:

      We are just as good as our record shows. Who on East besides Bruins & Penguins has been winning more consistently? Who else can roll 4 lines?
      They aren’t telling you any excuses – they admitted they played badly and have to improve.
      11-game points streak is broken, but it doesn’t mean they are an average team.

    • Bob_Sacamano says:

      What a completely ridiculous comment. I´m tired of this bs. Habs are clearly one of the three best teams in the Eastern Conference since the start of the season. What happened between 93 and 2012 has absolutely nothing to do with the current team.

      With players like Gallagher, Galchenyuk and a lot of interesting prospects on D in Hamilton, the future looks very bright too. Some “fans” should open their eyes and stfu.

    • SlovakHab says:

      Tootoo is 5 foot 9. What is that video “example” under your comment about?

      Staubitz is not a great player, and not even a great fighter.
      http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YVoPwpXaiZQ

      This is exactly what Bruins want. They turned Buffalo into mockery. They suckered them into getting a bunch of goons (traded Roy for Ott, signed Scott) and then dominate them in the standings.
      Hopefully Bergevin isn’t that stupid.

  44. Bill says:

    And just for good measure, here is the twitter account that is the “source” for the asinine Gorges rumours. If you still have any belief in this story after perusing the tweets, good luck in life.

    https://twitter.com/NHLInsights

    Full Breezer 4 Life

  45. NightRyder says:

    Two things:
    1. Does there have to be a childish debate about our goaltending future every time Carey Price stinks out the joint? C’mon dullards, they all have clunkers – Roy, Dryden, Plante … everyone. It’s just that in this day and age of the Internet social media where we all have a chance to offer our biased, slanted, uninformed and often stupid opinions, the criticism is overwhelming and things feel worse than they are. He’s still your mom’s favourite player.
    2. So I go to the game tonight at Rogers Arena, giddy as Boone in a pastry shop at the chance to heckle Scott Gomez. It was great for a while but wouldn’t you know it, the POS scored a goal! Damn! He was truly horrible. Awful on faceoffs, lazy as Jack Todd when he churns out the same column over and over again, disinterested and circling the perimeter like he was afraid of the net. But even an undeserved penalty at the end (when, miracle of miracles, he went near the net) couldn’t bring me enough joy after that tally. At least the Canuckleheads lost …

    • remi_10069 says:

      pretty funny. love the todd comment

      pipes

    • Mike Boone says:

      I have to nip this pastry meme at its raw dough stage.
      Boone a fat slob?
      Guilty as charged.
      But my woeful physical condition owes more to alcohol and a sedentary lifestyle than sugary confections.
      So gimme a break, guys.
      Besides, the hard-drinking sportswriter archetype is a lot more romantic than some loser sucking a cannoli.

      Mike Boone
      Hockey Inside/Out blogger

  46. Bill says:

    This is such an interesting conversation, I can’t let it go.

    Habitant in Surrey says what a lot of people feel” “guys who aren’t gay don’t appreciate being thought of as gay”.

    Actually he left out the “don’t” but I think that is what he meant, could be wrong.

    Anyway, it’s interesting. Do most straight guys resent being mistaken for being gay? I suspect he’s right and they do.

    I run a theatre company in my spare time, so guess what, I’ve been mistaken for being gay as a result. I don’t REALLY mind, and I say so, but you know, I always make sure I correct the mistake.

    I have gay friends, and work with lots of gay people very well. But I still don’t like being mistaken as being gay myself.

    Does that make me homophobic? I guess it does, actually. And that is too bad, because I think that compared to most people – especially on the East Coast, no offense – I am pretty open minded.

    But it goes to show you what anyone has to go through to come out. Especially if they were a professional athlete in a really heterocentric sport like hockey.

    We should all check ourselves on this one. There is no reason why it should be newsworthy if a pro athlete were to come out. God knows I wouldn’t want the media in MY bedroom, lol!

    Full Breezer 4 Life

    • Trisomy 21 says:

      I”m a little hesitent to add to this, just because it can be a touchy subject and don’t want people to take me the wrong way.

      It is a little funny… I’m open minded to the issue of one’s life style like you, but might be a little annoyed if someone mentioned to me they thought I was gay. I wouldn’t get angry or start a fight. I don’t even know how annoyed I would be in truth, but I’d certainly wonder to myself what gave them that idea.

      I wonder if it has to do with how it was perceived throughout my life. I mean years ago that was used as a strong insult to lay on someone.

    • Habilis says:

      Ok, I was trying to stay out of this one, because I also consider myself to be open-minded and I feel like it just shouldn’t matter in any case.

      But you’re right. I would want to correct someone who mistook me for homosexual. so I guess I’m also somewhat homophobic.

      To your earlier point about it not being defamation though, I’m not so sure. It’s a gray-ish area, and I’m not suggesting that the reason it would be defamation is the homosexual aspect, but rather the intrusion. It’s the same as someone claiming that an athlete cheated on his wife or impregnated some woman who he abandoned. If he did, it’s not defamation, but if he didn’t, it could be argued that the implication hurts his earning potential with regards to endorsements and the like.

      • Frank2468 says:

        Hablilis I agree with your comments and that’s exactly the point I was trying the get across earlier when you intrude on someone’s personal life and make claims that are not true it can be very hurtful and cause someone to have to explain themselves when they shouldn’t have to explain anything to anyone. And I guess I kind of reacted the way I did cause I had someone close to me take their life cause of things that were said on the interent that were not true and were ridiculed and chastised for it to the point that they couldn’t live with it anymore, so it’s a sore spot for me.

    • The Dude says:

      Theater company reminds me of Glee, Cat’s and the Vagina Monologs all of which I have not seen, but for some reason checking myself reminds me of 10,000 dead ,brave warriors :shock:

    • Dunboyne Mike says:

      Fair play, Bill, for posting this here. All good points and well made.
      Just to put forward a slightly different mind-set, I am straight and at the straight end of the spectrum, but only find it amusing if I’m mistaken for gay. (I’m a Canadian living in Ireland, sometimes mistaken for an American. Same thing; life’s too short!)
      Cheers all.
      (And last night was on the D)
      (And Bill, went back to college last autumn, was studying Krapp’s Last Tape and Godot last term)

    • Marc10 says:

      It’s a non story, all the more so because it isn’t true.

      I’d personally love to see a gay guy on our team, especially if he’s a 270lbs angry mofo who hates anything that wears black and yellow because no one should ever wear yellow. :)

  47. Timo says:

    Dunken Keith played 23 mins. Why is Markov and his knee on the ice more than that?

    • Bill says:

      “Dunken Keith” is just too close to “Drunken Keith” for me to pass up, lol.

      Well, Dunken Keith may have played 23 minutes, but Drunken Markov played 27 minutes! That answers your question. Frigging Russians and their booze.

      Full Breezer 4 Life

    • The Dude says:

      I think it’s fair to say Timo that our lil Defense was pooched from the game vs the heavy weight Bruins “bruins had our D in ruins” and that’s why in a series we be roadkill with those BASTARDS! BUT HEY …THAT’S OK CUS WE GOT CAREY STANDING ON HIS HEAD to save the day ” that’s it I’m making another white Russian and going into a fetal position on my carpet!” We really have three Dmen P.K. ,Emelin and Gorges “if he could keep his eye’s away from the crowd and on the ice the horny toad” and lil Diaz…the rest need to ride on into the sunset and be replaced by the likes of Tyler Myers or Erskine ‘spelling” Trade deadline will be interesting for us Hab fans.

  48. Marc10 says:

    The Islanders bring out the worst in our Habs. Price didn’t look great but I’m OK with that as long as he shows up when it counts. (He’ll get that chance this year, let’s see what happens.)

    I am concerned with our fourth line. To go far in the post season, you need warriors, pluggers and muckers. White is now gun shy and close to useless. I love the kid, but he needs to bring it every night.

    Moen with his steady paycheck pencilled in for the next four years, is way too comfortable and content with coasting. He should be embarrassed at watching Prust show him up, shift after shift, game after game. HIO bipolars will recall the big debate we had as to whether he should be resigned following is solid season last year. The jury is in and we’d do well to remember this outcome the next time an aging UFA kills it in his contract year. The Habs need grit, not bystanders. Let’s hope Big Trav isn’t playing with an injury and gets in gear when the real season begins.

    Armstrong is a shadow of the pest he used to be. His lack of foot speed has taken away whatever edge there was to his game. I’d gladly see Blunden there if we’re going to play 4th liners 7 minutes a game. Blunden hits, fights and even occasionally scores. Armdog is by all accounts a great guy, but this year’s ‘no excuses’ slogan leaves him on very thin ice.

    There’s no reason to hit the panic button, but shot across the bow of our grinders is in order.

  49. HardHabits says:

    I think the Cole trade, coupled with the Bourque and Diaz injuries has changed the dynamic of the team.

    Kaberle has adjusted to Therrien’s system better than Ryder has although Ryders is starting to wake up. Ryder’s problem as I see it is that he is floating around kind of like Cammy used to do whereas the rest of the Habs are skating and skating around. Ryder needs to move his feet at all times to get into the forechecking defensive play.

    I know I am going to get slammed for this next comment but are we not seeing more of these defen-sieve breakdowns lately as a direct result of one player, who’s name I wont name, starting to get more and more ice time.

    Did the NHL send the Habs a memo indicating that boring wins were not selling the game south of border and that fans were willing to pay to see exciting losses?

    Gaston Therrien last week said the Habs were not a trapping team and then this week said that they kind of trapped.

    Last night however, they trapped the bed. :-)

  50. Timo says:

    Chicago played against a crappy team tonight. They won.

  51. Habilis says:

    I’ve seen a couple of posters mention the Halak trade again tonight, as is usually the case when Price isn’t perfect.

    Halak was pulled in L.A. tonight after allowing 5 goals on 21 shots.

    Every goalie has bad games, bad streaks. Price is an elite goaltender and he will bounce back to form. Count on it.

    • Timo says:

      Just curious, what makes Price an elite goaltender? Winning 1 (one) playoffs series?

      • Habilis says:

        What makes him elite, IMO, is the fact that there aren’t 10 other goalies in the world who are better than him. Top ten in your position is elite in my eyes.

        • Timo says:

          I use different criteria.
          I am not attacking any of the Price supporters personally, but I don’t think I’d be upset if we got a top 2 dman (since he is an elite goaltender) and another top 6 forward for him.

        • boing007 says:

          You’ve seen all the goaltenders in the world? You should have a job in the scouting department.

          Richard R
          Price is an oyster. Unfortunately not all oysters produce pearls.

      • HardHabits says:

        Price and Subban sitting in a tree
        All the bloggers call them elite
        A burst pas the glove, the fans disparage
        And out comes the anguish in an hysterical barrage!!

        • Bill says:

          Err, the meter is TERRIBLE.

          Full Breezer 4 Life

          • HardHabits says:

            You my friend need to learn how to paradiddle. It’ll help you get through the last line.

            But seriously, it literally rolls off of the tongue. Just like that sentence did…

            :-p

          • Bill says:

            Hey man, I’ve been a musician since I was five, I can paradiddle with the best! But if you don’t agree that there is a problem with the diction of “in an hysterical” you are kidding yourself!

            14 syllables in the final line, give me a break :)

            Full Breezer 4 Life

          • Dunboyne Mike says:

            Never mind meter!
            Rhyming disparage and barrage in a parody where the originals were carriage and marriage — and on a hockey forum no less! — attracts multo bonus points!

          • boing007 says:

            At least they weren’t k-i-s-s-i-n-g.

            Richard R
            Price is an oyster. Unfortunately not all oysters produce pearls.

      • Marc10 says:

        He’s an NHL All Star.

    • Bill says:

      Halak pulled?

      INCONCEIVABLE.

      Full Breezer 4 Life

  52. MattZ says:

    No one mentioned Gomez has scored his first this year.

  53. Timo says:

    While you can’t fault Price for losing this game neither can you fault him for helping to win this one. He sucked. Him and his silky smooth hair needs to be glued to the bench until Budaj starts playing like… well… Price. Then rinse and repeat. Eff this guy.

    Sick of this team blowing chunks against bottom feeders. THey will never be a contender until they learn to put games away. And I don’t buy the bullshit that “these games happen”. They do, to teams that suck. These games don’t happen to Chicago or the Bruins. Ah whatever… same old shit as last year. So more point, big whoop, Price will still blow it in the playoffs.

    • Habilis says:

      The Bruins blew a three goal lead and lost to the Caps tonight. That’s a 2 game losing streak for them.

      It does happen, even to good teams. Chicago is just an anomaly right now.

      That being said, I do agree that the Habs will not be able to contend until they find a way to finish as well as they start.

      • Frank2468 says:

        How about the Bruins biggest epic fail 3 seasons ago in the playoffs going up 3 games to none and they blew chunks all over the ice and lost in game 7?? Which I thoroughly enjoyed to witness.

      • boing007 says:

        I’ve watched around ten of their games so far this season. Home and away games. Chicago’s not an anomaly, they’re a damn good team.

        Richard R
        Price is an oyster. Unfortunately not all oysters produce pearls.

  54. habs001 says:

    Eller will be 24 in may..if he is going to be anything more than a 3rd liner he has to start showing it..but i am not sure why some posters gave such a high expectations of him…if you did not know the name of the player and looked at these stats for the last 8 years how many would say this player will be a 2nd liner or better ..The production is just not there…hundreds of players have these type of stats

    Gallagher and Galchy have had way more scoring success than Eller and while it may have been junior hockey it clearly shows even at their young age 12-13 Montreal NHL 21 2 9 11
    2011-12 Montreal NHL 79 16 12 28
    2011-12 Denmark WC 7 3 2 5
    2010-11 Montreal NHL 77 7 10 17
    2009-10 St. Louis NHL 7 2 0 2
    2009-10 Peoria AHL 70 18 39 57
    2009-10 Denmark WC 7 2 3 5
    2008-09 Frolunda Swe 48 12 17 29
    2007-08 Frolunda Swe 14 0 2 2
    2007.08 Boras Swed2 19 2 6 8
    2007-08 Denmark WC 6 0 2 2
    2007-08 Denmark WJC 6 3 3 6
    2007-08 Frolunda Swe Jr. 9 4 4 8
    2006-07 Frolunda Swe Jr. 39 18 37
    2005-06 Frolunda Swe Jr. 36 7 7 14

    • Trisomy 21 says:

      Cute stat sheet, but I think Eller’s defensive play and the offensive flashes he has sometimes get me thinking he could be more than a 3rd liner.

    • Habfan17 says:

      Stats do not tell the whole story and players develop at different times. All the teams thought that Doug Wickenhieser was a lock, big strong and lots of points. Alexandre Daigle! What about Cory Locke? He had seasons of 151 points and 118 points as a junior. Was CDn Major Junior player of the year. Di Okay in the AHL, but could never crack the NHL, even with the “new” rules that make being a smaller player a possibility in the NHL.

      Habfan17

    • The Dude says:

      Oh bummer …here we go again. :arrow:

      • sheds88 says:

        i take it this has been talked about ?

        oh well, first i’ve heard of it, good for him !

        • Habitant in Surrey says:

          …as one of the people of that ‘suasion stated in their comment section: ” Somehow I feel like the fact Gorges just got engaged to a woman might put a hole in your theory. Plus, using an anonymous account for rumours like this seems a little bit irresponsible ”

          …as I believe you are irresponsible

          • boing007 says:

            Closeted guys who are married do exist. Closeted gals as well. It provides good cover.

            Richard R
            Price is an oyster. Unfortunately not all oysters produce pearls.

        • Frank2468 says:

          I don’t know what to say on this one. But why would someone post a RUMOR about someone in public eye. Well I know it makes for a juicy topic. But if he is he is. But if he isn’t and says so then people will take his word but at the same time in the back of their minds think well. This kind of stuff can really hurt someone whether it’s true or not. It’s totally irresponsible to post something like that. If I was Josh I would consider suing the website for defamation of character.

          • Bill says:

            Mmm, it’s not defamation of character to say someone is gay anymore. Gorges has not been accused of anything illegal or defamatory, so he has nothing he could sue for. You can’t sue someone for posting something on Twitter that is just dumb.

            Full Breezer 4 Life

        • The Dude says:

          As long as everything is done with respect and love for everyone it’s all good in my book….. Everybody is a star!

          • Frank2468 says:

            I see the link has been removed

          • sheds88 says:

            im not sure if its true , so it’s not being posted. one of my gay roomates sent me the link

          • Habitant in Surrey says:

            …the comment should be removed :(

            …until something like this is stated by Gorges Himself, it is totally unfair and irresponsible to allow something like this to be written in this blog

          • Frank2468 says:

            Bill it’s not on twitter it’s on an actual website, thats the differance and it would be upto Josh to say so or not, it’s his right. By posting that on a website you either force his hand in coming out or force him to have to address the situation if he is not gay. When it should be all up to him. And for that the website should be sued.

          • sheds88 says:

            dont want no trouble. just received the link tonight and was sort of proud if it was true.

          • Frank2468 says:

            I just removed the reference to the website and shedds88 what’s there to be proud of Josh’s rights being violated?

          • Habitant in Surrey says:

            …You have the brain of a tit-mouse

            …what the Hell is there to be ‘proud’ of ???

            …because You are gay, you get all giggly hearing a rumour Josh is gay ???

            …well, friend, most guys that aren’t ‘gay’ appreciate being thought of as ‘gay’

            …I’ll still think of Josh Gorges as one of Our best even if He is ‘gay’, but you putting words in his mouth is irresponsible, and it’s a slur until He says different

            …dummkopf !

          • Bill says:

            Frank: the website based the info on quotes from a twitter account.

            But it doesn’t matter. It’s not defamation to say someone is gay. Here, watch:

            (A) Stephen Harper likes Ice Cream.
            (B) Stephen Harper enjoys hockey.
            (C) Stephen Harper is as gay as a tree full of monkeys
            (D) Stephen Harper is wrong about global warming

            None of those statements is defamatory. I could not be sued for any of them.

            None of those

            Full Breezer 4 Life

          • sheds88 says:

            yes, i shouldn’t have posted the link, asking if someone is gay in today’s time shouldn’t be a violation of his rights. just looking for confirmation. which i received. again, i shouldn’t have posted the link.

          • sheds88 says:

            i am not gay. check your sources :)

          • Habitant in Surrey says:

            …not gay, but dumb as a door

          • Frank2468 says:

            Bill your missing the point questioning if Harper likes ice cream or hockey isn’t about his personal life or even his political believes which is not personal. When you start talking about someones personal life and making remarks that can hurt their reputation that may not be true is and posted on the interent is called cyber bullying and the government is trying to come up with laws that people that do that kind of thing can be charged and arrested for it. Anyway enough said on the topic lets just say we agree to disagree

          • sheds88 says:

            0 for 2 , you are now starting to lose credibility

          • Frank2468 says:

            Shedds88 if it’s me your talking about being 0 for 2 and losing credibility, well it’s you losing credibility for asking such a question in the first place. And if your remark isn’t directed at me then I apologize

          • Trisomy 21 says:

            HIS you need to cool it a little. Calling Sheds gay and stupid isn’t making you look any more “responsible.” He heard a rumour, asked if anyone had heard anything of the sorts. You’re blowing this out of proportion.

    • Timo says:

      Like to play hockey? That would be good.

  55. Habitant in Surrey says:

    …I don’t normally have the time to read comments on TSN threads but did read one today that interested Me, and it seemed to have not been written by an over-enthusiastic Hab fan (I believe he had explained he was a Weeds fan)

    …referring, according to ‘a rumor’, that Corey Perry is trending towards unrestricted free-agency because He wants a chance for possibly playing for Montreal, his boyhood favourite Team

    …that Perry would not consider the Weeds or other team if Montreal showed interest and made a proposal

    …has anyOne here also heard of this ‘rumor’ ? … does the ‘rumor’ have any real-World substance ?

    • Bill says:

      There is no real world substance to this “rumour”. It is based on unsubstantiated reports that Perry grew up a Habs fan.

      It assumes (A) that Perry wants to move from sunny California to freezing Montreal and (B) that the Habs have interest in signing this legendary a-hole.

      Full Breezer 4 Life

      • Timo says:

        What’s the story about his “legendary a-hole”?

        • Bill says:

          Haha, humorously phrased question, but I’m gonna play it straight, so to speak.

          Anyway, I’m just referencing the numerous comments on this site and others that suggest that Corey Perry is a major dick. I wouldn’t generally put stock in them, except that several of these comments have been made by people on this site (whom I trust) who claim personal knowledge of him.

          Full Breezer 4 Life

      • neumann103 says:

        Bill

        with respect, the Corey Perry grew up a Habs fan is not based on unsubstantiated reports. It is from a Q&A feature called A Closer Look featured on the Anaheim Ducks official NHL website:

        http://ducks.nhl.com/club/page.htm?id=44324

        Favorite NHL team growing up
        Montreal Canadiens

        I don’t know much about his personal attributes but he is a good player. Good enough that some desperate team is probably going to offer him $50M over 6 years.

        I think there are very few NHL players today who would give any substantial discount to a team just because they were fans in childhood, and |I don’t think Bergevin will open the vault for him, but apparently he actually grew up a Habs fan.

        “Et le but!”

  56. mike3131 says:

    Relax everyone! Games like these happen to the best of ‘em! Yes the Boys are highly paid athletes and are expected to play their best every day blah blah blah, but they are also human! Think of it this way: After having battled their hearts out in an emotion-filled victory in a hostile barn against a hated rival, they stroll into Long Island into a sh*tty rink with a dead atmosphere against a weak team. It is human nature for the Boys to not put the same amount of effort into a game in Uniondale as they would in a game against the Bruins.
    I can relate. My team lost in a shootout in a tournament final. We battled our hearts out having played two games on a Sunday. Early in the morning, we won 2-1 in OT against the #1 ranked AA team in Quebec, but then lost the Final game 2-1 in a shootout that evening to another strong opponent. Of course, we were emotionally drained heading into a reg. season game that following Tuesday against a weaker opponent (compared to the tourney). In other words, from the excitement of a tournament atmosphere, we came home to the usual quiet, dead and boring atmosphere of our home rink for a much less meaningful season game. We won 3-2 but played very sloppy; we did not have even close to the same juice in our game as we did that weekend.
    So yeah the Habs, should have won this game. Yeah, Price and the D had another rough game. SO EFFIN’ WHAT! The “no excuses” motto in theory should apply to every game, but in reality, by human nature, the Boys are entitled to an off game here in there – especially in a crappy environment such as Uniondale. Games like these are just wake up calls. Heck even as a fan I give myself the night off (sort of) when we play the Isles. :)
    And Price does not suck. In fact yes, he has stolen games for us this year. It just flies under the radar because as Matt Darche said on Antichambre, he makes every save look so easy when he is in the zone. I would not want any other goalie in the world to be in our crease over Carey Price – and the Halak bandwagoners will think the same after Price wins his Cup. He is just in a mini funk right now but he’ll find his game. I’m also a huge Cowboys fan, and if 32-year old Carey Price is on the same path as Tony Romo (with all due respect to Tony!) when the time comes, only then will I worry. But right now, Carey is still worth every penny of his annual $ 6.5 M salary.
    So just relax people! We’re still first in the East! Marc Bergevin still runs this team… Carey and the Boys have woken up now and WILL have a good game in Carolina. Everything will be fine!

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  57. Habilis says:

    Dunno if any of you saw, but Marc Staal took a puck to the eye tonight. It looked bad. No word on his condition. Apparently though, he did not go to the hospital. That has to be good news I figure.

    Still, it’s time for the NHL to make visors mandatory, this is way past being stupid. The tough guys can take them off before they fight, it’s really not that difficult.

    • Bill says:

      I don’t believe he didn’t go to a hospital. At least, I can’t believe it. It’s clear in the vid that he takes the puck right in the eye … there are so many precautionary things that should be done at a hospital even if he felt fine and could see ok. Would be really negligent of the Rangers not to send him there immediately!

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  58. Trisomy 21 says:

    Tonight was a glimpse of last year’s team. Blown coverages and defensive breakdowns. Price isn’t absolved of this loss, but in his defense 3 of the goals were scored by having someone in blue left alone in front of the net. Though he still could maybe play a game that reflects his GD salary once in a while. I don’t blame Price for getting overpaid, I blame the game. What’s the difference between a $6M goalie and a $4M goalie? 0.2 sv%? 0.1? not getting injured? I truly believe the celing for goalies needs to be like $5 – 5.5M. GM’s need to cool their bag on handing goalies these massive paychecks.

    BTW I also thought the referees were awful in this one.

    Edit: I know I’m coming off harsh on Price, but he’s merely playing average. No, I don’t think bad, just average, as a lot of goalies have bad games. Price will bounce back, I’m sure.. I’m a big fan of his, not so much a fan of his contract, nor Kipprusoffs, Rinne’s or Ward’s etc.

    • Bill says:

      True enough on the three goals from the blue paint. The defence has been absolutely brutal lately. Budaj was both lucky and awesome to win the game in Boston, because the D was also bad there. Therrien needs to get these guys – forwards and D both – organized in the defensive zone.

      Surely everyone has noticed how many goals have been scored the past three games by players left alone wide open? Gorges and Markov have been particularly awful.

      Full Breezer 4 Life

      • Trisomy 21 says:

        Bang on with Markov and Gorges… Markov gave a beauty away in his own zone. Wonder if Gorges has ever experienced anything like this before? (Return of Subban reference)

  59. Willy the bum says:

    No worries. Price will start in Carolina and get his groove back.

  60. RiverviewCanadien says:

    A long winded, attempt to pump the tires of Price. The guy has not played up to his contract yet this year.

    This team is in first place because of the play outside the crease. Plain and simple. Gionta tied the game (again coming back from a 2 goal deficit), but yet the loss is hung on everyone else but Price when this happens.

    I want him to succeed just as bad as the guy writing his cheques. Just saying, Carey really needs to earn his pay…I hope he does it while the team is still at the top or hovering in position to take over the division, well before fighting in 8th place.

    He can do it. Sooner than later I hope.

  61. Sportfan says:

    Our first loss in regulation since the bad leafs game and of course its 6 goals against haha

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  62. jimmy shaker says:

    That’s a very strong rant regarding Price. And while comical and at the same time true….with all due respect, Budaj will be in the crease thursday vs the canes. Price will have to catch his game down in florida. Budaj looks the more confident right now and where every point is important….MT can’t afford to let too many points slip away. The only slag I have on Price is his tendancy to drop down early on his knees and stay there…..Give Budaj the canes and Price the next one.

    Shake and bake

  63. hardcorehabs says:

    First time poster long time reader. Love your work Mr. Boone as always. Wondering what you think about adding Patrick Bordeleau from the avs for a third rounder. He would be perfect to add the grit to lineup as a 12/13 forward. 6’6, beast, young and tough. Plays with an edge, reminds me a lot of Lucic, minus the goal scoring. But he’s going to be very feared in the future as a heavyweight.

  64. Frank2468 says:

    Not trying to dump on Carey but wow 2 awful games and to many banana’s for my liking. Just think if he had made just 1 timely save tonight the outcome could have been different even 1pt. I know that some of the guys up front had a terrible night but thats when you hope your goalie pulls one out of the hat and same goes for when your goalie has an off night you hope your forwards win with attrition on that night. You could tell when the Habs tied it at 3 the feeling was come on Carey hang on and when the IL’s scored to make it 4 the body language on the bench was roll up the white flag and on the 5th goal it was nail it shut and mail it home. Now I know Carey has a calm demeanor but really he didn’t even look like he had a pulse tonight. If M.T starts Budja on Thursday thats a message loud and clear!!!! Maybe it’s time for the walk with M.B and Carey onlong the river????

    • DDO_Habs_Fan says:

      Carey would then ask him for some defensemen…

      “You’re always, always, always looking to make your team better. Always.”- Marc Bergevin

      • Frank2468 says:

        And then the defense men would ask for a goalie and then the excuses would start and there you go we would have a clone of P.G and J.M wouldn’t that be exciting lol.

        • DDO_Habs_Fan says:

          There was a too many men penalty with 4 min to go and down 1…just like JM no? :)

          “You’re always, always, always looking to make your team better. Always.”- Marc Bergevin

          • Frank2468 says:

            Yes you are right and it was kind of funny watching Moen I beleive trying to wiggle his way around and behind the linesmen to get back to the bench. OMG did I just say Moen our super sized prized middleweight tuff energy hard hitting 3rd liner. Oh wait that was like 5 seasons ago with the Ducks!!!!

    • I’m not worried, we all saw what he can do, slumps happen. As long as his agent doesn’t go public about anything, he’ll be a Hab for a long time. :lol:

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      • Frank2468 says:

        They lose the next 2 or even 3 M.T is going to have a cow. Cause if you looked at him after game walking along the ice to the change room he almost had the look of gritting his teeth. I’d love to be a fly on the wall right now and for the next few days of the road trip if things get worse. It could get better then daytime soap opera!!! LOL Actually if anyone in here actually thought the Habs would be in 1st in the east at this point are not being truthful. Look at the season they had last year you can’t expect miracles in a few short months. The pieces are there it’s just going to take some fine tuning and I think M.B is up to the task. I don’t believe he is one like P.G to sit around and wait and let problems fester. If the Habs can finish this year getting back to making the playoffs then recovery on the way

  65. sCOTT1243 says:

    Just finished watching the game on PVR. Lots of Price bashing, ya he didn’t play great but whats with the open man constantly sitting on the doorstep? Go back over the last 15 goals against and look how many goals are scored when the D are over to one side together and opposing man standing alone in front. No goalie is going to save those. Oh well its 1st game without earning a point in awhile.

    Markov looks like a fish out of water.
    Does Moen still play for the Habs?
    Penalty on White and Eller, weak, comon refs terrible calls.
    Oh well off night, it had to happen sooner or later.

  66. Habitant in Surrey says:

    …Dustin Tokarski’s second consecutive shutout for the ‘Dogs to defeat the Heat tonight 2-0

    …just sayin’ :)

    …if We waive Carey …what are the chances He will make it to Hamilton ? :)

  67. deuce6 says:

    I think the writing is on the wall for Moen..His 1.8M cap hit for the next 4 seasons are hard to swallow if he isn’t being engaged and involved, physically..He is not bringing what he is being paid for..

    Army’s contract is for only 1M for this year, so I doubt he will be going anywhere..

    IDK what is available, but we sorely lack a true energy line..I look at the Hawks and their 4th line and drool..THAT is an energy line..

    ——————

    Yes, I’m a Hab fan..Wanna fight about it?

    • Habilis says:

      I agree, Moen has been invisible for a while now. It seems Prust’s presence has made Moen redundant. Prust earns way more but he also does a way better job in the same -albeit expanded- role.

      Yeah I don’t know what’s out there either, but I wouldn’t be surprised to see Moen dealt for someone more physical. At least that would add something that the Habs lack atm. Because right now, Moen ain’t adding much.

  68. DDO_Habs_Fan says:

    I agree Mr. Boone that DD and Max were not good tonight. DD was terrible in the face-off circle. Max was not physical and his passing was horrible (especially on the PP). Luckily, they do not play goal…

    “You’re always, always, always looking to make your team better. Always.”- Marc Bergevin

  69. HardHabits says:

    At least we know that if Therrien decides to play Budaj more than Price, Bergevin wont be coming down from the rafters to take his place behind the bench.

  70. Mike Boone says:

    Your check is in the mail.

    Mike Boone
    Hockey Inside/Out blogger

  71. The Dude says:

    I’m no:1, where’s my $6.5 million per?

  72. Bim says:

    I agree with the end zone coverage needing to be better but Price needs to step up his game dramatically. I didn’t realize until I checked but in his last 10 dating back to the leafs debacle his save percentage is only .881 and record is only 5W and 5L. Yes he has 2 SO but I think they have obscured his poor play lately and at 6.5Mil per if I were Mr. Molson I would expect better..much better. Also only once in those 10 games did Habs allow more than 30 shots in a game. If he doesn’t pick up his play maybe they’ll move him to Tampa for Lecavalier.

  73. boing007 says:

    I’d love to see Price stand on his head. Maybe he could take lessons from Dominic Hasek.

    Richard R
    Price is an oyster. Unfortunately not all oysters produce pearls.

  74. Mad Habber says:

    Yeah I don’t get why he keeps coming up…Right now I don’t think a centre is the biggest need.

  75. Kooch7800 says:

    I wouldn’t worry about it. MB isn’t that new he would make a trade for him. The ship has sailed and sunk

    “Keep your stick on the Ice”

  76. The Jackal says:

    Lol…. here we go, the sky is falling. And the Cole wanted out comment is back.


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