About last night …


Could your Montreal Canadiens – with a few bounces and more opportune shooting _ have won the game?
Were they deprived of a W because of sub-par performances by a few key players.
But there’s a tendency, in these parts, to assess games purely on the basis of how well or poorly our heroes perform.
We tend to forget the opponent can be capable of playing good hockey.
For the final 40 minutes of Wednesday night’s game, Boston played really good hockey.

The visitors stayed close, then took the game over with two goals early in the third period. After that, the Canadiens had to chase the game. And the Bruins were not about to let them mount a comeback.

Yes, the Canadiens’ no-longer-top line continues to struggle.

Yes, the Flying Freshmen were mostly grounded.

And yes, it’s probably a different game if Lars Eller and Tomas Plekanec score on their respective breakaways, or if Colby Armstrong and David Desharnais bury excellent chances.

But as much as we hate them, let’s give the visitors some props, shall we?

Boston played a textbook road game and deserved to win. 

They took everything the Canadiens had to offer in the first period – the Bruins didn’t get their first shot on goal till the game was 12 minutes old – and patiently hung in, confident that hard work, toughness and the confidence borne of recent success would prevail.

One of the teams on Bell Centre ice last night is the Beast of the East and a bona-fide Stanley Cup contender.

The other is a work in progress.

Progress will be gauged in Buffalo on Thursday night and back at the Bell Centre on Saturday, where the Canadiens will play their third game in four nights against the perennially pesky Leafs.

We can pick apart some faiblesses:

• Alexei Emelin added six hits to his league-leading total. But he had no clue on the Tyler Seguin goal that made it 1-1; and as a puck-mover and point shooter, Emelin is not the second coming of Bobby Orr … or Dougie Hamilton.

• Erik Cole had one shot on goal. And his bull-rushes down the wing did not trouble the Boston defence.

• Alex Galchenyuk went 1-7 on faceoffs. David Desharnais was 7-14.

• The power-play, which had been superb in the Canadiens’ first eight games, produced P.K. Subban’s first goal of the season. But Boston’s penalty-kill was superb, pressuring the Canadiens into hurried passes that produced little sustained pressure. Michel Therrien’s in-game adjustment was to reunite Andrei Markov and Raphael Diaz on the first wave, after Markov and Subban struggled as a pairing. But the Canadiens’ PP problems were down low, where the forwards infrequently troubled Tuuka Rask.

Bright spots?

Rene Bourque was the Canadiens’ best skater. He used his size well and won numerous puck battles along the boards in the Bruins’ end. Bourque, Plekanec and Brian Gionta were easily the Number 1 line.

The problem was the other three units.

But again, it’s not like the Canadiens were playing the Little Sisters of the Poor. The Bruins are two seasons removed from a Stanley Cup. They have emerging stars in Seguin and Hamilton, a goaltender who’s not making anyone pine for Tim Thomas and a core of veterans – led by Patrice Bergeron and Zdeno Chara – who know how to win.

The Canadiens had a chance to take over first place in the Eastern Conference. That didn’t happen, and the schedule is about to get tougher.





  1. I don’t understand how we’re calling players disappointments at this stage.

    Subban? He’s got three points in three games.

    Moen? He’s playing fourth-line minutes, and his linemates have mostly been Armstrong and White.

    Eller’s doing really well considering all the bouncing around.

    Cole and Gionta have 2 goals each — a slow start to be sure, but hardly a disaster.

    Even Armstrong is doing what he signed on (cheaply) for — responsible 4th-line minutes and a decent PK.

    And most importantly — the only important thing really — is this: the team is still winning twice as much as it loses. Sure, it doesn’t feel that way this morning, but a one-goal loss to a terrific team two years removed from a Cup win is no cause for the tearing of robes and gnashing of teeth.

    Mike Boone: “With Gainey at my side, I’d walk into any dark alley in the world.”

    • Strummer says:

      ” Moen? He’s playing fourth-line minutes, and his linemates have mostly been Armstrong and White.”

      LOL you could also say the same about Armstrong playing with White and Moen, and White playing with Armstrong and Moen!

      Ya think the 4th liners might be interchangeable?

      “It’s just an opinion – I could be wrong”

      • nunacanadien says:

        I disagree on Eller. He fumbled all the passes. He has skill but clearly all this moving around is impacting him the way Carbo’s line changes screwed the habs under Gainey. Trade Eller for a bigger forward to fight back against the booins.

      • I actually don’t think they are — there’s a reason that Moen makes more than the other two combined. He had a good year for a bottom-six guy last year (9 goals in 48 games), is better defensively than them, and adds more veteran leadership and grit than they do.

        Put another way, if Prust were a little worse at everything, he’d be Moen. If Moen were a little worse at everything, he’d be White. : )

        Mike Boone: “With Gainey at my side, I’d walk into any dark alley in the world.”

    • mrhabby says:

      agree…craziness after 9 games.

  2. Phil C says:

    Quite often a loss can tell you more about your team than a win. The Habs have a better idea of what kind of team they have now. They were able to stick with a team like Boston which is very encouraging.

    Plekanec’s line was the best and the worst line last night. They generated the most chances, but also looked bad on the two goals. I wonder if the Habs are overplaying Plekanec? Most teams do not have their number one PK centre as their number one PP centre. For example, Boston has Krecji and Seguin leading in PP time and Campbell and Kelly leading in PK time. To me this balances the load much better, especially when there are a lot of penalties.

    I know that Plekanec is an excellent penalty killer, but they should continue the trend of letting Eller take more of the PK responsibility. Or White, or whoever is the fourth line centre. If your fourth line centre can’t kill penalties, it’s time for an upgrade.

  3. HABitat4humanity says:

    Habs could have easily lead 4-1 in the 1st period. Pleks & Armstrong & Eller missed on some key opputunities.

    In the 3rd period, they just looked lost.

    Gally line should have Eller not Prust.

    Weber Should replace Armstrong for a game or two.

    • nunacanadien says:

      I disagree, Eller must have hurt his hand when they brought him up too early like Souray. And we all know how Souray ended up. Why wait years trying to fix what cannot be fixed. Trade Eller.

  4. adamkennelly says:

    Habs need to win tonight and we’ll all forget about last night – period.

    • nunacanadien says:

      Unless Eller fumbles the puck all over again. Kid must be doing something wrong. Maybe he is just scared cause he has no protector. Prust is too small, Cole too busy being Cole and heck do we even have a player on the habs who will babysit Eller? Do we need a babysitter for him? What a waste of talent though.

  5. CanadienBoy says:

    Boston rank first in face of at 59.3 and Florida second at 52 so for u guy trowing DD under the bus u should think about it an d chucky was 1 for 9 ,the best teams are the best at face off ,damm that bergeron

    • Chris says:

      Desharnais won one of his three draws against Bergeron, the best in the business.

      But he only won 6 of 17 draws against the other Bruins centres:

      Chris Kelly – 3 for 9
      David Krejci – 0 for 2
      Rich Peverley – 1 for 4
      Ryan Spooner – 2 for 2
      Greg Campebell – 0 for 1

      What blows me away is that ALL the Bruins centres are good on draws. Krejci is winning 57.4%, Kelly is winning 61.0%, Peverley is winning 67.1% and Bergeron is at 63.4%.

    • shiram says:

      Pleky and Eller managed to keep above 50%, DD and Chucky were weak on faceoffs last night.

  6. christophor says:

    There’s some absolute nonsense going on here today, and from a few who generally avoid nonsense.

  7. Dr.Rex says:

    Those who think Gorges has been below par this year need a refill on their prescriptions. HE has won many puck battles, blocked endless amount of pucks and been a good leader. I have actually noticed some good puck movement as well. Those who are horny for a whipping boy should look past this warrior.

  8. doug19 says:

    Cole seems to be a slow starter. He is conditioned and fast but seems to have trouble in the first say third of the season keeping the puck up with his speed. His puck handling seems to need quite a few games to match his speed. I look forward to all pistons firing on that line.

  9. otisfxu says:

    No, not the end of the world, but Buffalo is going to be tough tonight – no way Miller stinks it up again. Then Laffs are never easy for the Habs for some reason. Could be at .500 before you now it.

    Saw Stephan Richer on RDS last night – man could Habs use a real sniper – haven’t had one for years. Gotta know what to do with the puck on a breakaway, wasn’t even close last night on both breakaways.

    Moen looks old – so does Cole. I think guys like Cole, Pacioretty really needed a training camp/preseason.
    And I’ll take Ryan White over Armstrong.

    • shiram says:

      Moen has not been playing the same as the last few seasons, that said he’s also not getting PP and top 6 time.

      • Kooch7800 says:

        Did Moen ever get PP time? Moen is usually on the 3rd line and isn’t seeing as much ice on the 4th line.

        “Keep your stick on the Ice”

        • shiram says:

          Heh not really after checking out, I thought Martin played him there a number of games.
          Martin did play him with Pleks for long stretch and he looked more dynamic then.

          • Kooch7800 says:

            You might be thinking of Darche maybe. Moen used to have great starts to the season. I think he could also play with the kids if needed but Prust is playing well there so why change it.

            Moen isn’t having much luck on the 4th line mind you neither is Armstrong. Has our 4th line even scored a goal this year? I don’t think they have

            “Keep your stick on the Ice”

          • shiram says:

            White has one. To be fair the good zone starts and weaker matchups are spead very thin among the the 3 top lines.

          • Kooch7800 says:

            true enough.

            “Keep your stick on the Ice”

    • HabinBurlington says:

      Yes a true goal scoring finisher would be nice. Maybe that answer is a few years down the road in Collberg/Kristo or perhaps sooner in Galchenyuk.

      Am hopeful goals start coming for Max though, he has that sniper/finishing type shot.

    • habstrinifan says:

      Woul love a Richer. Man this town would go wild.

    • habsnyc says:

      Moen had a few good goals early last season. He also had several fights. He is off to a slower start. I don’t like when GM’s give non skill players over age 30 multi year contracts. There are so many of these kinds of players that GM’s are only bidding against themselves. If I am Moen, with a solid four year deal, coming off an injury that might have been a concussion, with four teammates willing to fight, I might want to play less aggressively.

      Blue, blanc et rouge. Red and White for Canada. Blue for Smurfs.

  10. HabinBurlington says:

    Two of three losses have occurred when I watch game from my couch, I will take one for the team and head to the bar (or saloon as some might say 😉 ) and watch the game there tonight.

    Go Habs Go!

  11. HabFanSince72 says:

    So far, among returning players:

    Disappointments : Gorges. Cole. Pacioretty. Moen. Subban.

    As expected: Gionta, Plekanec, Desharnais, Eller, Kaberle.

    Nice surprises: Price, Markov, Diaz, Bouillon (technically returning), Bourque.

    (* as expected means good for Gionta and Plex, mediocre for Kaberle).

    Ever tried. Ever failed. No matter. Try again. Fail again. Fail better.

    • Habfan17 says:

      I would add DD to the disappointments, although we may have seen his best year last season. Teams know him now and he isn’t strong on the puck. His faceoff skills are bad so far too. Was at around 30% last night. I say put Galchenyuk with Pacioretty and Gallagher and drop DD and Cole to the 3rd line with Prust and see how the kids do!


    • The Jackal says:

      Subban and Gorges have been good. Maybe not great last night, but the whole team sort of let up after the first.
      PK has 3 pts in 3 games and has been solid, Gorges is his usual self, which is solid.

    • mrhabby says:

      disappoinments….Subban…thats funny after 3 games.

      in fact how many games have these guys played oh right…9

  12. Gally27 says:

    win tonight and 7-3 record after 10 games – anyone of us would take that after 10.

  13. Steeltown Hab says:

    Cole and Pac aren’t playing near last year, as a result that line isn’t getting the job done. I expect Pacioretty to get back to form soon, hope that same for Cole.

    Happy to see Eller back on the PK, he’s an athlete out there.

    When else will we see Pleks miss coverage on 2 straight goals like that again, he deserves the benefit of the doubt.

    Armstrong out White in. Eller showed we need him out there.


    Lars, PK, Galchenyuk, Pac, Emelin – @J_Perez22

  14. habsnyc says:

    Their best line out hustled our best line on two great rushes. Their coach made a great adjustment. They were strong and fast on the puck and buried their chances. Plekanec, the best two way center on the team, was a step late. That’s not the worst was to lose a game.

    Nobody thinks Montreal is better than Boston. The game was competitive. There were positives. But Boston’s core is at their peak. Montreal’s top players are still developing. In a couple seasons, it is possible that Galchenyuk will be making the plays that Seguin made last night.

    Is Bourque playing so well that he can be traded for the defenseman some think the team lacks? Or is he playing so well that trading him would be too detrimental to the current season?

    Blue, blanc et rouge. Red and White for Canada. Blue for Smurfs.

    • shiram says:

      There was apparently alot of interest in Bourque from other teams. I’d keep him for now, our D is not so bad, and our forwards need all the grit and goal scoring that Bourque can bring, for now.

      • 123456 says:

        Our D does not lack anything.

        • nunacanadien says:

          Our d lacks size and the Bruins capitalized on that, even though we have small fast dmen they were outpushed, and shoved around, even Gorges caved in. Kinda like trying to push a large object with short guy, after a while gravity takes over. Someone should remind Bergevin about the law of hockey, only the big guys win in a shove and push match, which if I were a GM in the NHL and they came out the lockout before saying that the rules have changed, and if MB says he was active in the LA kings around that time, he should know the crash the net rules means exactly that. You need size to defend against this push and shove type of hockey that now runs the NHL. What did the habs do? They believed the crap about calling penalties and went small. Gauthier alluded to the habs ownership committee that is basically the same except for the loss of Gillette that they believed this. Hello, Jeff Mole-son of a Mole, MOLEE MOLEE MOLEE like that comedian would say…Jeff Molee Molee Molee, Hey Jeff! The NHL is about big and fast coming at your net! Not about some ref calling every little penalty so you can extend sign Gionta and give the farm away to Kaberle and Prust! Kaberle who couldn’t fight to save his skin.

    • Kooch7800 says:

      Why trade bourque? He can play and is only a 3.3 mill cap hit. We don’t have an excess of top 6 players.

      “Keep your stick on the Ice”

      • habsnyc says:

        Inconsistent, over age 30 and clearing cap space for a defenseman should be a priority.

        Blue, blanc et rouge. Red and White for Canada. Blue for Smurfs.

        • Kooch7800 says:

          but you would only be clearing 3.3 mill for a 20 plus goal scorer which would leave more of a void in our top 6

          “Keep your stick on the Ice”

          • habsnyc says:

            Clearing bourque and kaberle together plus not resigning Bouillon would create the room to get a first pairing defenseman. One would have to assume that Galchenyuk joins the top six to replace Bourque.

            Blue, blanc et rouge. Red and White for Canada. Blue for Smurfs.

  15. La Duke 16 says:

    I thought Plekanec stunk last night, and was happy to see a strong Galchenyuk back checks.

    • HabFanSince72 says:

      He had ups and downs. Yes he was weak on the two B’s goals but his line was the most dangerous all night long.

      Ever tried. Ever failed. No matter. Try again. Fail again. Fail better.

  16. Loonie says:

    Saw some people advocating for PK and Gorges to be put together.

    I’m okay with that, as the third pairing.

    Gorges flat out hasn’t been good so far individually this season and Subban’s taken three minors through two games. Two of them at very bad times.

    Bouillon and Diaz have been better respectively in my opinion.

    • HabFanSince72 says:

      Shoulda traded PK to Edmonton for the Yak when we had the chance.

      Ever tried. Ever failed. No matter. Try again. Fail again. Fail better.

      • Steeltown Hab says:

        God no.

        But PK was doing his little one second extra holding the puck a little much ln, still was one of our better Dmen.


        Lars, PK, Galchenyuk, Pac, Emelin – @J_Perez22

        • HabFanSince72 says:

          A Gallagher, Galchenyuk, Yakupov line would give us joy for a decade and maybe more.

          Ever tried. Ever failed. No matter. Try again. Fail again. Fail better.

      • boing007 says:

        Right. We could have had the Yak and Yuk show.

        Richard R
        Price is an oyster. Unfortunately not all oysters produce pearls.

    • jedimyrmidon says:

      What if playing with PK increases Gorges’ effectiveness out there? As in he plays a lot better with PK than he would with Diaz.

  17. Strummer says:

    No need to Panic


    “It’s just an opinion – I could be wrong”

  18. Keeper64 says:

    Lots of discussion on the Habs PP and how the Bruins put more pressure on our points to take away that puck movement. That’s an excellent coaching move by Julien that worked, I hate to say. I was curious if anyone saw the Philly / Tampa game on Tuesday? Watching Tampa’s PP was very interesting and showed why Boucher is such a smart coach. They had players moving all over the place, not sitting in the same 5 traditional spots. This kept the Flyers constantly in rotation and opened up shooting lanes. I was impressed.

    • New says:

      I think once they get film on you then you need to adapt. Chara on Boston seems to have stopped that stupid slapper of his. It went in every now and then but usually hit one of his own players. Just bring someone to you, take them with you until someone else wavers, and two of your guys should be clear. Everyone likes to see the big shot but most goals are scored from in close. If you’re big you draw the D behind the net then move the puck back to the faceoff circle. The D commits while you take two strides to get in front. Forwards aren’t great at covering. But if the guy in the circle moves the puck to the point and the guy on the point brings it at over 100 you’re not so quick to take those two strides. Gotta go to where the puck will be. When you guess wrong or just chase there is a chance for someone.

  19. HabFanSince72 says:

    It is early to look at +/- but our leaders are Galagher (+6), Galchenyuk (+5) and Prust (+4). Clearly that reflects who they have been matched up against and their ice time.

    Our best D-man is The Cube (+4).

    Our worst minus is Tomas Plekanec (-3) due to last night.

    Ever tried. Ever failed. No matter. Try again. Fail again. Fail better.

  20. Strummer says:

    We finished in the basement last year and we barely lost to the first place team last night.
    It’s a step in the right direction as opposed to getting smoked by Ottawa last week.
    Be patient folks.. we’re on the right track

    “It’s just an opinion – I could be wrong”

  21. Hobie Hansen says:

    Wouldn’t worry too much about last night. The game was decided in two minute span on two quick Boston goals. It really could have gone either way.

    Rene Bourque…what a great season he’s having!

    Hopefully we has some gas left in the tank for Buffalo tonight and bounce right back.

    • shiram says:

      I really like what Bourque is doing so far, he seems angry out there all the time, and this anger seems to have him focused and energized.
      I wonder how long he can keep it up, because let’s not kid ourselves this guy is known for having hot and cold spells, and we’ve been seeing only the good from the start of the season.

  22. edmond says:

    Power Play: With the top six forwards all healthy they will usually make up the 1st and 2nd forward PP units. The 1st PP point players should remain Markov and Diaz given their early season results, great shots, vision, and passing abilities. The point players on the 2nd PP are now Suban and Bouillon but I would try and work Galchenyuk in to replace Bouillon. Although the latter is a good D Galchenyuk has a better shot, vision, and passing ability. Galchenyuk did play point on the PP in Junior and with the top six healthy up front he is not getting on the PP and his ice time has dropped. He is only 18 years old but plays like a young veteran so why not try this in practice and work it into the game gradually.


  23. John Q Public says:

    I miss the line juggling!

  24. Mattyleg says:

    Morning guys.
    And gurls.

    Tough one last night, and it’s fun/depressing to see that it only takes a loss against a top team to get people doing all the sad, predictable things like calling out individual players and trying to run others out of town.

    It’s also reassuring to see that the language card was played too. It wouldn’t be an Anglo message-board without someone b!tching about those damn Francophones.

    In a way it’s a good thing we lost, because it illustrates things that we can work on. Boone highlighted some good points, like the Bruins’ effective PK. Reminds me of Carolina’s a few years ago. No time to think with the puck, always someone rushing at you. Totally threw Markov off, who fired the puck into the guy directly in front of him a bunch of times. Got to come up with a way around that.

    A few bounces our way and we could have won the game. Like Armstrong said, it’s only panic time when the chances stop coming. And I’d believe him; he played for the Leafs. He’d know.

    —Hope Springs Eternal—

    • Loonie says:

      Panicking after that game last night would be ridiculous.

      It could easily be argued that the Habs deserved a better result. They decided to fall asleep for ten minutes and it cost them in the win column.

      Price made some excellent saves on screened and deflected shots but otherwise the team didn’t surrender premium scoring chances.

    • HabinBurlington says:

      As opposed to playing a language card, is it okay if perhaps I played a geographical card?

    • doug19 says:

      I like Armstrong he is funny and checks well, has a long reach.
      It would be nice if his offense starts to click. As for White? Let him not make taking penaltys his specialty.

  25. CCL says:

    Not to contradict what I said earlier about changing lines. But I wouldn’t mind Pacioretty and Bourque switching for a period maybe a game what ever just to see if it would make a difference to get Cole going …..

  26. habstrinifan says:

    I like MT’s comment that they would be more ready next time. I think he means it too. MT is doing fine with his overall ‘style of play’.
    In my humble opinion, he needs to do in-game adjustments a little more, especially in the use of his defensemen 5 on 5. I think last night’s game called for a defensive pairing of Gorges and Subban playing the old kitty bar the door style of JM for a little bit so as to frustrate the Bruins and have our team catch their breath. Our ‘mobile’ defense presented to same a look to the Bruins ….pairing after pairing.

  27. The Jackal says:

    As I was saying yesterday, I hate the B’s, and they will always be a steaming pile.
    Yesterday was our game to lose. We had all the chances in the first, and our guys could not score. After that, I think they just over-thought their moves instead of just playing naturally, and it let the excrements back in the game. I think after taking the initial surge and scoring, MT didn’t see much urgency in adjusting, while Java the Hutt did. Maybe two-chins did make some good adjustments, but when you outplay a team and miss 5 solid scoring chances, that’s what really gets in your head, and you start to think too much, and in the end that is what killed them, not the Biffs being dominant. In the end it was crap luck that kept them in the game enough to score two quick ones, things happen, but I believe this team can beat the Poops any time they play.

  28. Loonie says:

    So now that Eller was probably our best forward last night on the fourth line does he get a chance to supplant one of the centremen on any of the above lines for a game?


    What meritocracy?

    • shiram says:

      He was good last night, and here’s hoping Therrien took notice of it.
      With a road game it could be interesting to play Eller with DD, so you can have at least 2 true centers for your important faceoffs.
      We’ll see soon enough.

    • Kooch7800 says:

      I was all for leaving Max-Cole and DD together but they don’t seem to have the same jump they did last year. What about putting Cole with Pleks and Bourque? That would be a fast line.

      Put Gio-With DD or Eller and Max P

      “Keep your stick on the Ice”

      • Loonie says:

        In my opinion Pacioretty makes that line tick.

        Desharnais is an excellent player and has earned everything he has.

        Having said that he does need to adjust his game. The puck needs to come off of his stick a lot quicker. Teams aren’t affording him time and space like they have in the past and he isn’t big enough to consistently protect the puck to buy time.

        I think that simple adjustment would serve him very well.

        • Habfan17 says:

          Maybe, just maybe last year was the best we will see of DD. Eller is getting better and DD is not. I say take DD, Kristo and Weber and see if that will get a decent return, possibly a power left wing or big physical dman.I would be happy with a couple of extra pics in the draft.


  29. pete says:

    well we didnt beat the bruins but we didnt play 60 mins.I agree we need to do something with the first line. Plecks didnt back check one of his no show games almost reminds me of kovelev.and why put pk on with markov diaz was working fine if its not boke dont fix it.I would like to see eller play with gally and chucky for a bit i think they will give him the spark he needs.price looked so calm in net he did a great job. Bourque looking better this year. I think MT should of called a time out after the first one and why is after onley playing a solid 20 min he should of ripped them a new one and say look thats how fast a game can change also it stops there momentum. hope we beat the lafs sayurday night 3 games in four nights ouch

  30. habstrinifan says:

    While we are lamenting the inability to score, I thought oue entire defense corps was average and in some cases bad.

    MT has to start thinking about some pairings adjustment. Hate to say it but one pair has to be a ‘shutdown’ pair like P.K and Gorges were last year or Gill and Gorges were before that.

    As it is now the pairings lack that.

    • HabinBurlington says:

      Agree bud, would definitely like to see PK and Gorges together against other teams top line, this will also give Markov more space for offensive skillsets.

      DIaz has proven competency to warrant being the regular on 3rd pairing with Boullion.

      • Loonie says:

        As long as Diaz is playing like a #2 defenseman he shouldn’t be going to a third pairing in my opinion.

        When his play slips or somebody else is better, by all means.

    • Chris says:

      Really? The Montreal Canadiens have given up 1 goal, 1 goal and 2 goals in their three games with the current pairings.

      Against the best team in the Eastern Conference, those pairings conceded the grand total of 23 shots, or 8 fewer than the Bruins average.

      The defence corps is not an issue right now. I’d love to have seen some more scoring from Montreal last night, but I’m not going to sweat bullets about it. Boston is typically the best defensive team in the league, as evidenced by the fact that they have had 5 games where their opponent has scored 1 goal or fewer already.

      • habstrinifan says:

        I think you are taking my thoughts and that’s just what they are to the exreme. I am not talking about the entire season so far.. or altering the ‘permanent pairs’ or the ‘starting pairs’ etc. In my (humble opinion), there WAS NOT one pairing last night which played a ‘totally defensive’ style… and that, again in my humble opinion, was what was needed at certain points in the game.

        And, again in my humble opinion, Gorges and P.K are the best option for that temporary assignment or even have Bouillion and P.K but ask them both to play that style.

        Sounds like you meant ‘garbage’ when you typed ‘really’.. and that’s ok cause I am no hockey Lucretius.

        Edit: I may be wrong(dont have stats etc.. just an impression based on two weeks of hockey) but I have never seen Boullion play as ‘offensively’ a game as he has been doing in this reincarnation with the HABS.. and I think it will detract a bit from his defensive soundness.

        • Chris says:

          Call it a difference of opinion. Teams that put a “totally defensive” pairing on the ice will get creamed, in my opinion.

          More importantly, I hate overloading lines or defensive pairs. It necessarily creates a “weak” pair that other teams can exploit.

          Right now, the Montreal Canadiens are playing excellent defensive hockey. They do give up chances, but on the whole they have been playing extremely well in that department.

          Montreal was very good through two periods, and then had a 3 minute meltdown in the third period. It will happen. I’ve seen those types of meltdowns with P.K. Subban and Josh Gorges on the ice just as often as I’ve seen them with Alexei Emelin and Andrei Markov or Francis Bouillon and Raphael Diaz.

          If anything, I think we’ve seen far fewer of those meltdowns this year because the pairs do have a better balance.

          I just find it weird that we’re worrying about the lack of a shutdown pairing in a game where the Bruins were held shotless for the first 12 minutes of the game and ultimately had very few scoring chances. They got two early ones when the Canadiens came out flat-footed, and I would argue that it was the forwards that were flat-footed, not the defencemen.

          Tomas Plekanec is the team’s best defensive forward, but he had a bad night yesterday. It happens.

          • habstrinifan says:

            Thanks for the discussion. I still am wary about the ‘6 mobile d’ corps but I do agree that the forwards have to share some blame.

  31. shiram says:

    A slight error in the resume from last night.
    Desharnais was actually 7/21 on faceoffs for 33%.

    Here are the other for completion’s sake
    Glachenyuk did not fair better with a 1/8 for 13%.
    Pleks did good with 12/23 for 52%
    And Eller at 6/9 for 67%.

    For all the hype these Bruins/Habs game get, I feel they are very often underwhelming, boring affairs, like last night.
    All the hand wringing about White not being in was completely inconsequential, Bruins were not after the Habs blood, but after the 2 points, and after waking up from a sleepy first period they controlled the game.

  32. montrealtilldeath says:

    Totally agree that MT got out coached by Julien in this game. Should have called a time out after goal 2.The 2 quick goals merited an instant team refocus. This was the Boston Bruins not a low caliber team we were playing. They adjusted after period one. It was clear the game plan was either not in focus or ineffective at the start of the 3rd period. Looking at body language I thought MT looked a little off himself and did not see the urgency to energize his team after the 2 quick goals. It was not until late in the game when he double shifted Subban, Markov etc was the team energized offensively. Too little too late. As for Eller he seems to play his best against Boston. I sense a J Martin hangover in terms of the attitude towards Eller. He has size, strength and speed and is not afraid to go to the net. It took Lafleur until his 4th year to break out. Also as Shiram has pointed out Eller was 6/9 in faceoffs where I feel we really lost the game. That was a key reason our PP no matter what combination (Markov, Diaz PK) was on. You need the puck on the PP.

  33. rhino514 says:

    Leblanc with two goals last night. Let´s hope the kid is back, maybe we will see him play some games on the big team after all this year.

  34. 24 Cups says:

    I often wonder what would have happened if Montreal took the Koivu/Selanne route instead of the Gomez/Kovalev path. Who knows if Selanne would ever have signed with Montreal, but he was once an UFA coming off a bad year. Maybe with Koivu’s influence…..The ‘what if’ game can be so cruel.

    Right now, Anaheim has to be the biggest surprise in the NHL (7-1-1). Koivu is 3/8/11 while Selanne is 3/7/10. Gomez and Kovalev are left to pick up the crumbs around the NHL.

  35. habs-fan-84 says:

    A tough frustrating loss for the boys last night. The first ten minutes of that game was probably some of the best hockey this team has played all year. Unfortunately, they were snake bitten on too many chances in the early goings last night (which came back to bite us – as most last night watching feared it would).

    The only areas of concern I had last night was the PP (for most of the night it looked ineffective). Also, once again this team is really weak in the faceoff circle…it’s been awhile since we had a faceoff specialist (Yanic Perrault is the last one I can remember)….if memory serves me correct though, Nokellainen is actually quite good…

    I thought Eller once again had a strong game – but he has to start cashing in on some of those chances. After 3 years of watching him, his Achilles heel is his inability to convert chances into goals. I do believe they will come though – he’s beginning to look a lot more confident out there.

    All in all, a tough loss, but, tough losses are going to happen. Time to cowboy up, as Price would say and put the boots to Buffalo tonight. If we’re 7 and 3 by 10 o’clock tonight, I’ll be happy 10 games into the season.

  36. rhino514 says:

    The only guy really worrying me on the whole team is Cole.
    When that line isn´t doing well many on here point at Desharnais, but i feel he and Max Pac have been noticeable. Cole doesn´t seem to be driving to the net like last year and it is worrisome because he is at that age where many players lose that half step they need, especially with his style of play.
    Cole is definitely a key to that whole line and if he is done we are done. He doesn´t need to have the career year he had last year but we need him to be productive.

    • Chris says:

      Cole is a slow starter.

      Last year Cole had 1 assist in his first 7 games.

      In 2010-11, Cole had 5 goals and 6 assists through his first 28 games.

      In 2009-10, he never go on track.

      He’s still got his speed, and I agree that he hasn’t been himself. But I’d give him another couple of weeks before starting to worry.

  37. Ian Cobb says:

    After the first 15min of the game we were out coached by Julian the rest of the way. But it was an entertaining game and we will get better.

    We were not ready for the 3rd period push from Boston either.

    Emilin was on the ice and responsible for the two goals against, as well as being caught deep inside the offensive zone forcing PK into a penalty to stop an empty net goal against, with 30 sec. to go.
    OK! so we lost to a better team last night, but we were far from beaten!

    Dias and Emilin need to get better to be an honest top 4 D.
    Top 4 D are Markov, Gorges, Boullion, Subban, Power play as well. Even Kaberle on the power play is vastly better than the two kids. He led with power points last year. But 5 on 5 I prefer the kids learning on the job.

    Something wrong with Cole this year, our power forward has disappeared so far.

    Armstrong has not even shaken all the leafs of his jersey yet this year and is our weakest link on the team.

    We are a better team this year and we just played a decent game against a potential cup team, so over all I am very pleased.

    • Habsssssssswin says:

      Emelin can’t see pucks around his feet or in close, for that matter. It is and is going to be a cause for concern…..
      Pleks has gotta stop acting like a little bitch when things don’t go his way…
      Rask beat us … The kids are alright !

    • Chris says:

      I think it borders on hyperbole to lay responsibility on Emelin for the two goals.

      On the first, Plekanec made a weak play while under duress skating back into the zone, turning the puck over to the Bruins. Then he chased Krejci unnecessarily, as he was under control by Markov. This left Seguin, who had been Plekanec’s responsibility, wide open. Regardless, it is a bit crazy to lay blame on that type of play. Krejci and Seguin are guys that do that to any defence corps in the league. They forced a turnover, and then they forced a mistake, just like good players are supposed to do.

      On the second, Krejci was Plekanec’s mark. Yes, Emelin could have perhaps blocked the pass across, but I have no idea how anybody could blame that one on either Markov (who tied up his man perfectly) or Emelin (who couldn’t stop a saucer pass, just like a million other defencemen). Neither guy could even be remotely considered responsible for Krejci, as they both had a man.

      As for the Subban penalty, that was just a sloppy play by P.K. With 30 seconds to go, Emelin SHOULD have been pushing hard to keep the puck in the zone. If the puck comes out, it is pretty much game over. If you aren’t gambling to win the game when you are down by 1 with 30 seconds to go, you probably shouldn’t be on the ice.

  38. Big Buffy Boat Club says:

    We won a coin toss in Ottawa and we lost one last night. That out of the way I do have a few complaints. They reminded me of last year’s team getting bogged down with an impotent cycle after getting a lot of chances early and then fading. Where the low cycle would have been nice is on the PP, our d-men had no time/space for point shots, just shuffling the puck back and forth between them, the forwards needed to be more involved in the set up. Also I hate it when forwards take the zone and then throw on the brakes looking for the perfect pass, this was Gomer’s signature, can’t allow Boston that sort of time to set up their in-zone.

    I am so glad there’s a game tonight.

    “Crush your enemies, see them driven before you and hear the lamentations of the women.”

  39. 69HABS says:

    I’m getting sick of Pleks … No interest at all last night for him!

  40. mark-ID says:

    JUst a couple of comments from last night……

    The rookie line definately had themselves a hard time against the Bruins. We knew it was bound to happen, but they didn’t seem to keep up with a talented team like the Bruins. I have no doubt they will bounce back. Prust seemed slow last night.

    I am not one to complain about players, but I am in total agreement with posters coming down on Armstrong. He has been useless so far. He may not have been directly the reason for a goal against…..but there have been some bad giveaways. Missing open nets like that, I mean come on. He should not be in the lineup tonight. At least White burried his chance against NJ. I would also much rather give Blunden a shot over Armstrong.

    “I think I may have found a way for us to get Griffey and Bonds, and we really won’t have to give up much” -Costanza

    • Loonie says:

      They had one bad shift after an icing(the kids)

      They probably created the most scoring chances per minute played and were winning with speed.

      They weren’t given enough opportunities at home in the first of a back to back set in my opinion. Now Therrien will have to rely on them heavily tonight in a road game.

    • ProHabs says:

      But I heard Armstrong is really good in the room.

    • Agree, but White is hot and cold and a liability for penalties. Seemed the Habs were out of sync after the first and they have to play 60 minutes to win consistently. Last night was another 20 minute game.

      Promote the Youth, Support From The Veterans and Remember the Heritage!

  41. shootdapuck says:

    What are Laff fans thinking when they see Rask standing on his head?

    Andrew Raycroft……..who?

    The cranial flatulence of PJ Stock:

    “Le problem est Markov n’a pas jouer un seul game cette annee”
    “Louis Leblanc est un kid locale”
    ” I have a pet peeve”

    • Saintpatrick33 says:

      The Laffs sure did build a winning team too bad it was the Bruins.

      • shootdapuck says:

        Not to mention all those picks they surrendered for Kessel!

        Seguin Hamilton ……….

        The cranial flatulence of PJ Stock:

        “Le problem est Markov n’a pas jouer un seul game cette annee”
        “Louis Leblanc est un kid locale”
        ” I have a pet peeve”

    • HabFanSince72 says:

      Something else mentioned on RDS. The Leafs gave Seguin and Rask to Boston. But in a way they also gave them Horton. The B’s having two first round picks that year allowed them to trade their own pick for Horton.

      Ever tried. Ever failed. No matter. Try again. Fail again. Fail better.

  42. Real simple people… the games winning edge is still related to shots and puck control. Last night, Montreal came out hard in the first period. Then the air came out in the second. Boston started shooting, skating down the middle toward the net. When I started seeing Habs players stop before getting hit as they went up ice, I saw shades of the terrible play of last year. I didn’t see Boston players shy away from going up the center or turning to avoid a hit.
    You saw our shot production drop off. You saw our puck control out of sync and each rush down the sides was rubbed out by the Boston defenders. Take the game to them in the first and stop playing after that. We’re lucky to have gotten out of it with a 2-1 loss.
    Still a work in progress.

    Promote the Youth, Support From The Veterans and Remember the Heritage!

  43. ed lopaz says:

    I saw the 1st goal as Plekanec being positioned to defend Seguin in front, skating away from that position, which seemed to surprise Emelin, and leaving Seguin alone for the moment he needed to do the damage.

    Unless you know the Habs defensive zone coverage scheme in that situation, how can we blame Emelin and absolve Plekanec?

    On the second goal, it was clear to me that Plekanec was beat on the rush to the net, and his coverage was blown.

    On his breakaway the puck bounced away from Plekanec and into the corner, but he would still have had time to be first on it and he could have kept the play alive.

    Also, there was one rush where Markov made a terrible read and then either missed his pivot or, chose not to pivot, and was beat clean to the outside. I think that the was the first time ever I’ve seen that happen to Markov.

    • Chris says:

      Markov has had a number of plays this year that I just simply don’t remember see him resorting to. A loss of footspeed and rust are combining to change the way he plays. He is still an offensive juggernaut on the power play, but his even strength minutes could perhaps be reduced.

      And I agree about the Seguin goal. I think that was a miscommunication between Plekanec and Emelin. I have no idea what Plekanec was doing on that entire play, from the faceoff right to the goal.

  44. CCL says:

    It was a 2-1 game Guys. some of you make it sound like 7-1
    change this line, change that line. Habs missed on a lot of scoring chances or it could have been 3-1 or 4-1 for Habs. when you play the Bruins you have to capitalize on your chances as the results showed last night. they played cat and mouse and beat them on mistakes …. two goals = two mistakes.

    • coltdiamond says:

      Every time I come on this site after a lose I see so much crap about the Canadiens being a horrible team and this player sucks blah, blah, blah. Why can’t people just be positive that the team we are seeing this year is better then the one from last year? They lost 2-1… We could have easily won if we had a couple bounces our way. Can anyone ever think positive on this site after a loss?

      • 123456 says:

        Yes, and didn’t the Habs get a couple good bounces in some of their 6 wins? You win some and you lose some. While I would have liked to have seen more effort, I think the effort was there last night… unfortunately just not the desired result

    • 123456 says:

      Yes, Habs made more than 2 mistakes but the two we remember are the ones that cost us. Just 1 goal in the first and it’s a totally different game.

    • Kooch7800 says:

      Bang on. Whenever you don’t capitalize after so many chances in the first you know you are in trouble for that game. Can’t dwell on it, back to the ice tonight. Will be a tough game in Ottawa

      “Keep your stick on the Ice”

  45. Loonie says:

    Anyone else think Max Pacioretty should be put on the shelf for a week or so?

    He’s gutting it out and that’s admirable but he hasn’t been anywhere close to good since coming back from the appendectomy.

    It’s obviously going to take time for him to get better physically. No need to have him in the lineup while he’s recovering.

    • Kooch7800 says:

      I would agree he should have rested a few more games. The schedule only gets worse and if you don’t let things heal properly it will be a bigger problem down the road

      “Keep your stick on the Ice”

  46. 123456 says:

    Sabres and Habs both coming off loses – gut check time for both.

    There are some good comments this AM (yea still silly stuff as well).

    Chris brings up a good point below. Boston has a great PK – why? They are the most aggressive PK I have seen this year. How do you beat it? Quick puck movement – very difficult for sure. THere is very little time and high risk for errant passes (as the defense wants) BUT 2 quick passes should lead to a third pass with a great chance. These guys (Habs) all are great players, I’d like to see a little more urgency on the PP when they play against a PP such as Boston.

  47. JF says:

    As Mike says, the Habs are a work in progress. It’s one thing to beat struggling teams like the Washington Capitals, another to beat a tough team like the Bruins, a team that can take away space and keep their opponent to the outside. Textbook lead protection. We had our chances, particularly in the first period, but we needed to bury a couple of those. We came close, we stayed with them. But we saw in this game (as in the games in which we surrendered a lead) that we’re not there yet.

    But I don’t think this loss is a reason to break things up, far less throw players under the bus or trade half the team. The Habs are headed in the right direction. It wouldn’t have taken much for us to win last night. Keep working, and have a bounce-back game against the Sabres.

    • 24 Cups says:

      Jane – The Habs aren’t going to win all 48 games. It was a close contest against one of the top teams in the league. Two of our most experienced and talented players had off games which in the end might have been the difference.

      If I had one wish, it would be that the Habs could get a real sharp shooter. None of the forwards have that special gift. Tough to win games when you only score one goal.

  48. Habfan17 says:

    I just finished listening to Pierre McGuire on the team 1200 in Ottawa and he says that he never liked the Eller trade, Eller is a depth player and won’t ever put up points. He also said he believes he will be traded.

    McGuire was at the game last night but I guess he wasn’t watching. Eller had a very strong game and was the only Montreal centre to win the majority of his face offs. The other centres were terrible on face offs. DD was getting beat cleanly almost every time. On top of that he was being forced out of the play by the Bruin centres.

    I completely disagree with Pierre McGuire


    • Habfan17 says:

      When he isn’t adding extra words to fluff out his comments, he sometimes says some interesting things…lol


    • Ton says:

      Interesting for i had that conversation with my son last night……they should gotten more for Halak! Eller did play well but he could be the player they are show casing for a trade. Like I said the post above were not finished rebuilding! I would rather see that trade player be DD and not Eller for he has grit and some size.

      • Habfan17 says:

        I agree with both points, they should have gotten more and if they are going to make a trade, I think DD should be the one, not Eller.


      • Arrow77 says:

        People seem to forget that the Halak trade was in part a move made to save money because some important contracts were coming up. So the trade is actually Halak against Eller + the $ we saved.

    • Old Bald Bird says:

      I beg your pardon?

  49. Ton says:

    Reading the comments about where we are in our development> we must remember we were one of the worst teams in the leaque last year. Are we playing over our heads> perhaps but certainly we are very improved. Yet not at the level of the Bruins. One must remember Bruins got there by some signing key free agent > trading some of their assets for some defensive/offensive players and more importantly they traded for the future and it paid off. We may have to do the same> its a combination of moves that get you there! Eller was effective yesterday and we need to start seeing him as a starter and not on the bubble. I think a trade using weber>kaberle and some established youth (DD) and perhaps a youngster may get you a big skilled forward were in need of. Lastly the bruins style of play and system rely on timely goaltending……..they do get outplayed but know how to win> we saw this when they won the cup and yesterday night once more…..in some ways were not off for we have the goaltender that could it for us! We need to be patient but as I mentioned above> expect a move later in the season that will start putting some of the pieces together if we want to be a cup contender in 2015!

  50. AllHailTheFlower says:

    I’m actually surprised to see that Cole was credited with a shot on goal. I’m certainly not trying to single him out (gotta stick with the “team” concept), but I swear I didn’t see even one of his attempted shots OR passes even make it through to its intended target.

    And I’m still scratching my head trying to figure out how a team can come out after the first and second periods as flat and uninspired as the Habs did last night. Oh well, IMO this season is still just a glorified 48-game training camp to get ready for next year – learn, adjust and move on!

  51. HABSsince92 says:

    The game was lost in those first 10 mins. or so……..Habs had 3 or 4 grade A scoring chances and didn’t capitalize and it came back to haunt them in the 3rd when Boston shut it down after their 2 goals.

    I’m going to the game tonight……hope Price starts and the Habs win don’t want to go on a losing streak.


    PK please sign.

  52. ogilthorpe says:

    STOP with the Molson cup ceremony every month before a game already…. Habs lose every time this happens….do it after a game at the press conference…

  53. montrealtilldeath says:

    After the first back to back games series Markov has looked tired. If you watch closely his energy has dropped noticeably as the game progresses. He cannot continue to play 25 min per game. He is 34 years old. I really love this player but we are killing him. He has no energy. Plekanic has always floated on back checking when tired or he gets the cheap behind the play hooking penalties when fatigued.

  54. HabinBurlington says:

    Pretty good roundup Mike, hard to disagree with anything you said.

    With regards to the comments of being out-coached, perhaps this is true but there is also good reason for this to happen at this point in the season.

    Claude Julien knows his roster extremely well, and making in game adjustments with that group becomes easy for him, as these players have played and practised together for years making switches easy.

    Therrien will need to be able to make the same adjustments as he gets to know this roster as well. I mentioned last night that with about 6mins. left in the game MT did indeed try a shift with Eller centering the rookies, and while that shift didn’t go their way it shows recognition of Eller having been strong and deserving of better wingers.

    One issue I had with MT’s game plan was the limited ice for the Gally Brothers. I understand limiting their play, but this then results in Prust being limited in play. Prust needs to play more minutes in a game against the Bruins as he can help create more space. In this area some line juggling perhaps would have helped, but again this is early in the season and the team and coach are still getting to know each other.

    Something needs to be done to light a fire under the Cole/DD/MaxPac line, whether this be switching Eller with DD or breaking up the line in some combination with either of the Gally’s and the incorporation of Eller. But clearly this line is sputtering badly and is too important to this developing team that compensating for it is difficult.

    Boston showed last night they are a good team with good depth. Take solace in that Brian Burke is no longer a GM in the league so the Bruins have finally run out of having two teams draft picks every season.

    Hope to see a nice bounce back tonight. We can still beat Sabres and Leafs making for an above average week.

    But no denying that beating the Bruins is like winning 3 straight!

    • remi_10069 says:

      Therrien forgot to warn the boys to come out on fire at the beginning of the 3rd and didnt’ call a timeout when Boston scored. 2 amateur moves by a veteran coach. He was probably more concerned with how his hair looked for the camera. 24CH is more about the coaches and management than the players. It’s shit.


      • HabinBurlington says:

        In fairness if he was worried about his hair it wouldn’t take much worrying, there isn’t much left up there to worry about. 🙂

        • remi_10069 says:

          With Julien I agree. Unfortunately MT is in that terrible “in between” zone where he’s still trying to hang on which is when you worry most.


          • 123456 says:

            Disagree about the TO – Who calls a TO after one goal? And after the second a third was not scored. The team did not need to regroup, they needed to ask themselves why di dBoston just score? OH – they worked harder in front of Price. It’s really that easy.

  55. Chris says:

    I would also offer a couple of other observations to what Boone wrote.

    Boston’s penalty kill is the best in the league for a reason. They just absolutely dominate the face-off circle, and their two forwards are VERY aggressive in challenging the point-shooters. Has there been a game this season where Markov, Subban and Diaz had less time at the blue line to set up a shooting lane or make a pass? Boston can get away with penalties and thuggery because the have ultimate confidence that it won’t burn them.

    Tuukka Rask is a very, very good goalie. I was a little stunned when I saw the Bruins spend a first round pick on Malcolm Subban when they already have Rask. Through 110 career games, their 25 year old goalie has a career 2.18 goals against average and 0.926 save percentage. Rask was excellent last night. He has a much more mercurial personality than Carey Price, the other top goalie of the 2005 draft, but both guys have excellent size and look very poised in the net, giving the shooter very little to aim at.

    As for the Canadiens, I would add Raphael Diaz to the list of players that were bright spots for the Habs. Diaz was Montreal’s best defenceman on the night, in my opinion, and that certainly augurs well for the future given the questions that have routinely been posed on whether he could handle the big, bad Boston Bruins and their ilk in the NHL. I hope his performance last night puts that nonsense to rest. I was most interested in seeing him take some heavy hits to make the smart and proper defensive play. Diaz is not the shrinking violet he is made out to be. He will obviously never win a Norris Trophy, but he’s a good defenceman for your second or third pairing.

  56. remi_10069 says:

    You can blame the loss on Therien..To come out that flat in the 3rd is his fault. Julien told his boys to pounce and Therien was thinking the same thing as most of the fans at the Bell Center who were still in line to get a brew or take a piss when Seguin potted the goal. The players on the ice looked like they were still in warm up phase. After that he should have called a time out to let them regroup..instead, the barrage continued and guess what? Another goal caused by shit coverage..Same 5 players on the ice for both.


  57. piper says:

    IMO Plek was the main reason Habs lost last night

  58. Les-Habitants says:

    Last night proved a few things to me.

    We aren’t a 15th place team.
    We are a playoff team.
    We can hang with any team in the Eastern conference.
    We are no longer the pushover Habs of last year.
    We compete.

    But also, we aren’t (not yet) among the elite teams in the Eastern conference.

    Pens and Bruins are the two teams in the East that are clearly contenders, but our team is improving, still forging its identity. After less than 10 games, I am very happy with how this is going – even with a Bruins loss fresh in my mind

  59. --Habs-- says:

    Wasn’t a great game but wasn’t a bad one for the Habs. Don’t think they were outclassed at all and was a fairly even game. Even the 2nd and 3rd period Habs had tons of chances that they couldn’t bury. I thought Price should have been a little more alert on the second goal where no attempt by him to try and redirect the pass which was almost right at him. I was disappointed in the result but not the game.

    Go HABS Go

  60. Habitforming says:

    Pleks looked totally uninspired last night to me. I wondered when he had a break away and deked himself out of a shot on goal, and he turned to the bench instead of after the puck in the opposite corner. Being on a break away will mean he would be the first one to the now loose puck in the corner but he chose to shake his head in frustration and float to the bench. Of course we all know he was looking at Bruins nameplates on 2 goals early in the 3rd as well.
    Maybe he’s injured with something small and nagging, or am I just looking for excuses?

  61. showey47 says:

    Like i said early,the habs deserved to lose based on blowing so many chances in the first to put this game away early. They let the bruins hang around in a game they had no business being in. Also,time to give eller a shot between cole and max. A true top 6 center makes his wingers better and at this point DD isn’t doing that.

    I guess at this point we also should also give gauthier some props for getting bourque in the cammy trade. Though the results on the stat sheet isn’t there yet IMHO he has been our most consistent forward so far this year.If he keeps working that hard and creating space and scoring chances for himself the goals will come.

  62. CharlieHodgeFan says:

    Last night’s game will fuel a neglected type of fan who has been having a sad season – the doom and gloomer. There will be a few of those in this 48 game romp. My favourites last night were the ones denouncing Pacioretty. Jeez.
    The Habs are a good team when they play with brains and manic energy. Against a really good and experienced team like the Bruins, they were blocked, negated and slightly dominated. 2-1 was a legit score.
    Price was solid but didn’t stand on his head, and the Bruins did just enough to roll on with a vctory. That is a very good team.
    The Habs appeared to want to play in the big leagues, but it’s new ground and they pressed a little too hard, and missed too many opportunities. Experience and calmness were huge factors in that game. The Habs have to get used to being good after last season’s shambles.
    The Bruins were calm, methodical and experienced. They waited for their openings, and struck. They still only scored two, and could have been down by 4 or 5. “If” didn’t seem to worry them. They are a mentally tough, veteran team.

    Just wait to watch the apuckalypse crowd when they lose two straight, something every team is bound to do at some point this season. I hate to see them lose, especially to the Bruins or Leafs, but they are under construction and we have to keep our perspective. We’re watching a strong second tier team right now – quite a step up from the last place futility of 2011. They played a top tier team last night and gave them a run for their money, especially in the first.

  63. Cal says:

    Well, that was the kind of game that makes Timo happy.
    Too many blown chances for the Habs early and two good shifts for the Gooins early in the 3rd = a close loss.
    A lot of posts about how White would have made a difference. In what way? This was a tame affair by Habs/Gooins game standards and White would have been his usual undisciplined self.
    The “work in progress” Habs are moving in the right direction, but we shouldn’t expect a 46-2 record anyway.
    Winning 2 for every game lost is exactly what the Habs need to do to get to the dance. Habs are averaging 3 Goals per game and allowing a smidgen over 2. That’s a winning recipe.


  64. shootdapuck says:

    Goons staff did their homework and the unfortunately predictable PP was neutered!

    Face offs continue to plague this group and lo and behold after pumping 6 vs Buffalo they have only scored 3 in 2 subsequent games!

    Old ghosts continue to haunt!

    If ice-time is doled out by the new meritocracy then DD has rightfully earned a press box seat!

    Lastly are the Habs waving the white flag by starting Budaj in Buffalo?

    Would seem so!

    He’s just not that good or reliable, ask Colorado!

  65. rhino514 says:

    Both Eller and Desharnais missed easy chances last night. So I wouldn´t feel confident that either of them would have buried the other´s chances if those chances would have been reversed….or perhaps both of would have. But it just proves what we already know. DD is ok because he is a good set up man. Eller is a better skater and bigger but without as much hockey sense.
    Neither of them are pure finishers. It doesn´t make much of a difference if you replace one with the other; both have weaknesses. I still say DD is more proven at this point but I am starting to notice Eller more and this is an encouraging sign.

    I like this team, however, last night the lack of finishers on the team was apparent. How many chances does Bourque have to have before one goes in? I can see that the effort is there by him and by the whole team, but you need to have guys who can finish and this will cost us against good teams, especially in the playoffs if we make it that far.
    Against Ottawa we had multiple chances to put the game away when we were dominitaing early and miraculously it didn´t cost us. But the same pattern repeated itself against the bruins and we were not so lucky.

  66. Dunboyne Mike says:

    There have been big improvements in our PP so far this season (wouldn’t have been hard!).

    But we need a PP that can be effective against the kind of in-your-face PK that the Bruins and some other teams use (and which I love!).

    • Good Habit says:

      I’ve said for years that the best PP’s have more movement. Not puck movement (don’t get me wrong, that is important too), but player movement. D and guys on the half wall sliding back and forth. D switching spots occasionally. The guy in front moving in and out (to the side of the net or high slot) so as to confuse the PK’s D. The Habs have definitely improved this aspect this season under Therrien, but I’d like to see more. As teams figure their PP out, it will be necessary.

  67. commandant says:

    This game can be a good lesson for the Habs. An example from the coaching staff that anything less than 60 minutes of effort will not work against good teams…. and that you can’t let up for a single shift.

    Go Habs Go!
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  68. H.Upmann says:

    Thought about the game result for a little bit, this could be a blessing in disguise. As a few people stated in the article, a bit of a reality check. Far better than cruising with bubble wins only to explode like the Leafs did last year. If we need to improve, then a game like tonight`s can only help.

  69. Timo says:

    They sucked. Rask may as well just stayed on the bench and these bum would have not hit an open net anyway. Return to normal. It will be all downhill from here.

  70. Habitant in Surrey says:

    …boom, boom, boom …point by point by point …Boone sums things up clear and succinctly

    …We have a fun Team to watch that has some growth to go …the Boston Bruins are a very solid, non-spectacular, established, physical, confident, competent team with an edge when needed

    …the real season has now begun, and We will hopefully grow

    …We still have pieces to add or others needing time …but We have certain players, I think, with more sizzle than the Bruins

    …when playing well, more entertaining and fun to watch

    …be patient …and enjoy

  71. HardHabits says:

    I have yet to see the Habs in the past decade or so string together two years of the same #1 line being successful.

    Cammalleri-Gomez-Gionta (I had to throw this one in there)

    Pacioretty-DD-Cole should not be set in stone. I’d like to see them get it together but in the one game that Eller-Desharnais-Cole played together they looked better than every game that Pacioretty-Desharnais-Cole played combined. Conclusion: Pacioretty is off his game.

    Good article: http://www.theglobeandmail.com/sports/hockey/habs-may-have-new-identity-but-bruins-still-class-of-the-east/article8325251/

    • Timo says:

      Weber – Darche – Budaj

    • VancouverHab says:

      To doggedly repeat the unpopular, the problem (and its solution) is the elephant in the room; the Emperor in his new clothes:

      David Deharnais is absolutely not a first-line NHL centre. I loathe the Canucks as deeply, and scorn the Sedins’ tenderness, as much as the next clear-eyed hockey fan, but I must for honesty’s sake acknowledge the clear fact of the galactic dimensional difference in quality between Deharnais and Henrik Sedin.

      The Montreal Media (TM) can write and speak fanboi ecomia 24/7, and the coach can continue his and his GM’s (perfectly understandable) programme of invigourating our team’s francophone roots for as long as they think it takes, but nothing at all will make Deharnais a first line NHL centre.

      A solid third liner? Quite possibly. A needs-based second liner? Maybe. A first liner? Only if you want another top three draft pick the following season.

      • commandant says:

        Your first line centre, and Best centre on the team, don’t always have to be the same person, and in this case they aren’t.

        Look at the Blackhawks… I’d argue that their first line right now is being centred by David Bolland, but that Jonathan Toews is the best centre on the team.

        Go Habs Go!
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      • HabFanSince72 says:

        Have you considered cheering for another team? If you think they promote French players ahead of others, surely you should not support them. Ethically it would be wrong and such a team would be doomed to lose forever in any case.

        Of course you’re wrong (e.g. why is Leblanc in Hamilton and Gallagher in Montreal?) but since you’re not the type who changes his views when faced with empirical evidence (i.e. a conservative) you really have no choice but to stop supporting the Habs. For your mental well-being.

        Ever tried. Ever failed. No matter. Try again. Fail again. Fail better.

  72. habfan53 says:

    I’ll give the Bruins credit for playing well But this is the second game in a row that we dominated the first period and then not much in the final 40 minutes. Tonight 10 shots in the final two periods ,WHY ?
    Did Michel get out coached ?
    Did Claude make better adjustments ?( I think so).
    Why so little ice time for the kids and Prust?
    Yes PK got the goal but why break up Markov and Diaz?
    The habs made it close but the Bruins could have been had.

    Like the DODGERS “Wait till next year”

  73. CCL says:

    As the schedule gets tougher we’ll find out if we have a playoff team

    • Stormin says:

      Game against Buffalo will be a telling point or measuring stick for our compete level, will veterans step up, Sabres will be out for bear after the drubbing they took at Bell Center.

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