About last night …

It was a statement game, and the guys in black jerseys had something to say and said it – forcefully and without equivocation.

To wit: “We are better than you, and we don’t have to goon you to prove it.

“We are bigger, tougher, hungrier and – you know what? – we’re more skilled.

“And though you have had your way with us for years, yea decades, there is a new sheriff in town.”

If the playoffs began today, your Montreal Canadiens would play Game 1 in Boston, where they have lost the last two games by a cumulative score of 15-6.

That classic  postseason scenario – Montreal v. Boston – still may play out … although as the teams head for the finish line, the Bruins are rising like a rocket while the Canadiens sink like a stone.

My friend and favourite hockey writer, Arpon Basu, has written an excellent explanation of why this loss was psychologically crushing for the Canadiens.

We’ll be able to assess the extent f the damage Saturday night, when Washington visits the Bell Centre.

Jacques Martin and his staff have today and tomorrow morning to right a ship that’s taken some devastating hits and is listing badly.

(We won’t make a cheap joke about Tomas Plekanec and children in the lifeboats.)

The talk shows will be in a frenzy today, pondering some pertinent questions:

• Why didn’t Jacques Martin have his team prepared to play a crucial game?

• Is Carey Price Price tired?

• Have other teams effectively sussed out JM’s system, which is designed to protect Price and maximize the Canadiens’ chances of winning 2-1 and 3-2 hockey games?

• What’s wrong with Michael Cammalleri?

• Scott Gomez: WTF?

I thought the Bruins would win last night and said so on Bob McCown’s radio show. And I didn’t think they needed thuggery to do it.

It is painful to admit in Montreal, where we think that elusive 25th Stanley Cup is just over the near horizon, waiting to be seized by our plucky heroes.

But ask yourself this:

If you were one of the NHL’s more astute general managers looking to bolster your Cup contende– Ken Holland, Doug Wilson or Mike Gillis – which Boston Bruins would you take?

Tim Thomas, Zdeno Chara, the full forward line of David Krejci, Milan Lucic and Nathan Horton, Patrice Bergeron and maybe Brad Marchand.

OK, which Montreal Canadiens?

Carey Price and P.K. Subban. Maybe James Wisniewski and Roman Hamrlik as a 5-6 pairing. Maybe a pre-injury Max Pacioretty.

You can do this exercise with several teams: which Capitals, which Penguins, which Flyers, which Lightning …

In every instance, the number of players chosen would exceed what might be harvested in Montreal.

The Canadiens have two young superstars. They have some players with potential: Lars Eller, David Desharnais, Max-Pac if he recovers (and let’s not mention Erik Cole has never been the same.)

The Canadiens have Travis Moen as a Top Six. They have Mathieu Darche (one of the few who didn’t embarrass himself last night) on the power play.

They’ve got Ryan White, who plays his heart out and might get 10 goals if God drops everything else.

Can this team win number 25?

Hey, anything is possible.

I might date Mary Louise Parker.

Or not.

•  •  •

We had some glitches with Comments last night, but here are some good ones that got through:

From the always astute PeterD:

What we saw tonight was a Habs team that showed zero passion and zero fire coming into the Bruins home building. Maybe the Habs players are starting to hear and believe all the B.S. hyped by the media such as TSN and others…To be honest I am really sick of everyone talking about how the Habs need to get revenge or retribution for the Patches hit.

Lets all stop kidding ourselves, the Habs of 2010/11 are not built to physically challenge or rough up any team in this league and to even begin to think they will do that is ludicrous.
This team has been too small all season and everyone knows that. They are build for speed…but you know what – a lack of size does not make a team by necessity a better skilled or faster team…There are some pretty fast and talented bigger players out there. So our speed certainly was not evident tonight and any size we have was not to be seen this game either. So the skills? Where did they go…not to be seen tonight either.

Can anyone explain to me how Pittsburg can keep winning games and beat Philly tonight even as Malkin and Crosby sit out with injuries and the Habs can’t even show up in a late season game with a potential play-off match-up? I think it is pride…obviously the Pitts players want it more than the Habs players do.

I expected a lot more than we got shown tonight. With Sopel, Pleks, Halpern and Darche all returning to the lineup the team immediately became much more experienced and gritty…but alas, that experience and grit just never showed up.

This game was not about B.S. hype, retribution or revenge…no this game was about two division rivals battling in a 4 point game both supposedly reaching for that all important home ice advantage in the opening round of the play-offs and it was about pride to be able to hold their heads high above the ignorant ramblings of goofs like Recchi and Marchand. It was an opportunity for the Habs to show the league and the Bruins fans and media which organization has more class…

I still think the Canadiens have more class than any franchise in this league, but sadly it just looked like they played without spirit, skill, passion or pride out there tonight.

If they don’t do a serious gut check right now and regain their pride, sense of urgency, and take that through to the end of the season, I am afraid they may not make it into the post season at all, not with teams like Buffalo, Carolina and yes the Leafs making an all out push to get there.

From MathMan:

You know what I think about blowouts. I also think it’s unwise to blow a single game out of proportion, all the more so when it’s a blowout. Not that this ever stops anyone, even though the demonstration is made time and time again.

It was perfectly illogical to expect the 8-1 shellacking of the Wild to start anything, and the same applies for this game.

The Habs may very well meet the Bruins again in the playoffs, and if they do, I still like their chances.

From Bill:

This was supposed to be a statement game, and unfortunately, the statement was “you can nearly cripple one of our players, and we will respond by playing like complete pussies”.

The season series means squat. The Bruins just officially got the Habs’ number. They scored at will against a tentative – I would say intimidated and scared – little team. They even dominated the Habs during a 5-on-3 Habs power-play … says it all.

Carey Price, after getting pulled and sitting on the bench, had to be thinking, “How did I land on a team as uncompetitive as this?” If the Habs had 20 Prices, Subbans, and Maras, they would have delivered a knockout blow against Boston tonight.

Unfortunately, we saw too much money in the bank and not enough on the ice tonight. The Habs big three – tiny trio? puny posse? sissy squad? – contributed less than zero in return for devouring a third of the Habs payroll limit.

Were the Habs scared? I don’t know. I do know that all night long they were bailing on puck-chases early and looking over their shoulders. I know they weren’t driving into high-traffic areas. And I certainly know they weren’t responding – with the exception of Mara and Subban – when Bruins were shoving them around.

JM has had all season to address the penalty issue. Obviously it is not him on the ice taking those candy-ass interference penalties, but his “system” encourages it, and at the very least, he needed to deliver a message about it long ago. It hasn’t happened.

What bothers me most is how lame the Habs were. When they win, it’s easy to overlook what a bunch of Nancys they are, but on a night like this, the humilation is just too deep.

Some Bruins troll on the other thread sarcastically suggested the Habs should call the cops. I think they should call a proctologist first, just in case they ever want to walk straight again.

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  2. WestHab says:

    does anyone else think that bringing 4 injured players back the in the same game a little odd especially since neither one of them have played in about 2 weeks. I’m not suggesting that’s why they lost but I didn’t think they were all ready. Does it take a couple of games to get your legs back?

  3. StevieRay says:

    what is obvious is the need for goals ….G&G&Cammi&Pleks ..time to earn your money….3 more years with this quartet..not good

    • WestHab says:

      for the time being I’ll give Pleks the benifit of the dout, just coming off an injury. Ealier this week it was summized that he might make the Wash game in MTL. I think he rushed back.

  4. smiler2729 says:

    Gutless, rudderless… that is the true Habs.

    If teams take on the personality of their coach, nothing against JM for getting us this far with a cast of ifs, ands and buts BUT I’d rather have Kirk Muller steering these guys…. even Carbo.

    Last night was the most embarrassed I’ve been as a Habs fan.

    *Perfectly content as a HABS I/O member for 3 years 16 weeks… now forced here, grrrrrrr.

  5. habsfan0 says:

    “That classic postseason scenario – Montreal v. Boston – still may play out … although as the teams head for the finish line, the Bruins are rising like a rocket while the Canadiens sink like a stone.” Correct me if I’m wrong,Boone, but prior to beating New Jersey and the Habs during their last 2 games,weren’t the Bruins sinking like a stone as well?

  6. otisfxu says:

    Last game of the season – Tor-MTL for 8th place,,,,,,,,,,,,,,yee haw!!!

  7. S_Dot says:

    This is about as big of an overreaction as I’ve seen since…

    Look, the Bruins played a great game, much like they did when they beat us 8-6 back in Boston. I don’t think that we played much better than we did that game, that 8-6 score was not indicative of the action play from our end. I think the bigger question is JM’s matchups and coaching on the road. We seem to be much much better at home when JM can get the matchups he wants and we look lost and terrible when other lines can match up with ours.

    I don’t think last night was a bad loss, after it was 3-0 we packed it in, shelved it and moved to the next one and I really don’t think that it was that big of a deal. The Bruins aren’t beating us in Montreal, we know that, and if we can figure out in these next 7 games how to play on the road, WIN FACEOFFS and sustain puck possession in the opponents end without having a lazy pass from Gomez, Eller, AK, Benny, Cammy!! Then we can hang with the big boys in the playoffs…

    Overreaction though, chalk it up, learn from what the B’s did in the 1st, get the matchups right, and figure something out in these last 7 and we’ll be fine, but come on, its 1 game, and I don’t wanna hear about any psychological stuff…

  8. digitalmonkey says:

    I don’t think the sleaziness of the Marchand hit on Gomez is getting the attention it deserves. Marchand got his arms arm and hit Gomez in the face with his helmet. Just what is the definition of a headshot in this league?

    • Broon says:

      Oh really? And how about the cheap shot from Plekanec on Horton, drawing a double minor? Gee, did his stick just happen to smack Horton in the head or was that a dirty slap with the stick? Guess you kinda missed that one, eh? Touk too tight, there, eh?

      • ricardamundo says:

        Touk???
        Good grief, don’t use words you can’t spell.

        • Fig Newton says:

          Guess you need to divert attention and not answer the question.
          Why not admit you don’t give a crap about headshots unless a Canadien is on the receiving end?

          Plekanec is a cheapshot artist hack who slashed Horton in the face. What do you have to say about that?

          Gonna call 911?

  9. tbovs says:

    I know it sounds funny but this is exactly what the habs needed….they need to realize timoe and again that coasting won’t work and they need 110% for them to win . They are not the canucks who half the team can coast and show no heart and they destroy people. You saw what can happen with a team who looked tired and who has forgoten over the last ten games who they are. Ok so games over….fix the problem get to basics and work on solidfying the game plan. It happens to every team i.e. bruins, flyers, caps…where they have about 7-10 games where they suck. Its just complacency setting in and things can change but its up to the coaching staff….this is where I think JM is worth his mettle….he is a great tactician within game and motivating outside of game in practice. So this is on him and Muller to pull the rod of sorrow out the players’ arse and fire it up for the remaining games. If they get this over now and galvanize for playoffs we’ll be fine. I think last night too that price was frustrated after 2 periods of ineptitude by the team in front of him and he just didn’t care after that. I don’t think he is tired but like I said … they are not sharp or mentally there right now….looked like someone kicked their dog last night (and boston literally did). Lets see what the next 3 games holds….if they fix it …. 2-1 at least…if not 1-2 and a limp in to playoffs and out first round….

  10. V says:

    It was a bad game. We will see if it really means anything. I suspect it won’t other than an opportunity for 2 points missed.

    I am tempted to offer up some legitimate factors for the loss, i.e. 4 important players making first-game returns from relatively long injuries and disrupting the lines from the last 4-5 games. But it doesn’t matter.

    Onward and upward.

  11. eric says:

    Before the injuries JM had two good lines scoring important goals together.
    AK- Eller- Moen
    Pouliot- DD-Darche
    I don’t understand why he doesn’t reunite these lines instead of screwing up 4 lines.Gio was scoring playing with plec so put Cammy on that line and put Gomez -White-halpern as the 4 th line cuz no one scores playing with Gomez anyway. Why drag down thw team for one lousy player named Gomez.

  12. Habbu says:

    Much like the Habs………………….I’m afraid…very afraid

  13. cynic says:

    The season ended for the Habs the moment the league decided not to suspend Chara. Maybe they didn’t get gooned last night but the threat of being gooned was too much for them. It’s equivalent to trying to compete with someone when you know they have a firearm in their pocket that they can use with impunity the moment the game doesn’t go their way.

    Until such time as the league cleans up its act, skill will continue to be trumped by goonmanship. The Habs are done. Broken. And the league has a serious case of cancer…

    • V says:

      You are well named. We will have to wait and see if you are right.

    • 44har48 says:

      I think your perspective is interesting to read. We will see. I’m not willing to admit they are done, but I am willing to admit this team is not that telented and as skillful as some would dream. It takes 120% effort and good goaltending for them to win. When Price (or any goaltender) doesn’t stand on his head, they lose.

    • HUDSONHAB says:

      If the Habs play the Bruins in round one I would be happy if one of two things happens. Someone pounds Marchand and/or someone knocks the hump off Lucic’s back.

      ….Hab4life….

  14. punkster says:

    Bunch of crybabies on here today. The Jacques Cartier bridge awaits you. Have a nice swim.

    Ya, the powerful Bruins (4-3-3) and unstoppable Flyers (4-2-4) are rocketing into the playoffs ahead of the anemic Habs (5-5-0).

    I look forward to this ridiculous silly season being over so we can get to see some real hockey. Playoffs baby…playoffs.

    ***Subbang Baby!!!***

    • HardHabits says:

      You’ve been a Leafs fan for too long Dave. You’ve accepted a culture of losing and it shows in all your apologist posts.

      If the Habs don’t score a goal against Washington I am bringing out the tank avatar for good.

      This team missed the most glorious opportunity to rebuild proper when they let 11 UFA’s walk for nothing.

      They could have traded the bulk of them for picks but instead chose to limp into the play-offs for a 1st round sweep. Rather than sign shrimpy, shorty and gnomebody over the blow up the team summer they could have just tanked one season and stocked up on more draft picks. But no. The Habs don’t tank. Well. The Habs wont win a championship in the NHL either. The Habs are a team forever built for mediocrity.

      I am so disgusted as a Montrealer and life long Habs fan. This team sucks worse than the last Koivu team I slammed. This season is another wasted one. Another crappy 1st round pick. Another worthless playoff run.

      Playoffs? Playoffs! This team will be lucky to make them.

      • punkster says:

        Blah, blah, blah…you don’t get it, do you David? Lose and it’s tank this, oh woe is me that and disgust to be a Montrealer and Habs fan. Win and the world is coming up roses and we-could-go-all-the-way.
        Take a number for the bridge jump David. As for me I’ll be sittin’ back, chillin’ and gettin’ the beers cold for our playoff run.

        ***Subbang Baby!!!***

        • HardHabits says:

          I only said the Habs could possibly make some noise in the play-offs a long time ago when they were healthy. That was a very long time ago and it was a clear maybe.

          I also warned about the over use of Price and I am right about that one.

          The trend is apparent though. The last 3 games against Boston have brought to the forefront the Habs’ Achilles heels and they have a few of them.

          They are a team that is easily physically dominated.
          They are a team that is now figured out by the rest of the league. Play them defensively and stifle their short quick pass plays. This is team that cannot score. They have been shut-out 8 times. They are battered and bruised. They have no esprit de corps because they have no grit and they play a style ill suited for the type of players they are. They couldn’t fight their way out of a paper bag.

          The likelihood of them missing the play-offs is slim but it could still happen.

          • 44har48 says:

            The key that you just said…and I am just figuring this out now, is that “they have no grit and they play a style ill suited for the type of players they are”.

            That is the biggest problem aside from the fact they are tiny and not as fast as we think…Martin has them playing a freakin trap! This team is not built to play a trap.

  15. Timo says:

    Let’s see if they even make playoffs.

  16. Max_a_million says:

    We have four players come back last night obviously too soon. The Bruins played great, and you can’t take that away from them. Our lightning fast team, was incredibly slow.

    Pleks with any health will not be a -4, Gionta who raced by Martin St. Louis on a break away last week couldn’t catch Lucic last night, Cammy is beat up … they were all very slow, and we have no chance playing slow against the Bruins.

    PK Subbie Doo was the lone awesome Canadien last night. Very impressive. Let’s hope Subban and the little sisters of the poor can get some beauty rest here for the playoffs. They need it badly. I hope JM plays Pyatt, Webber, Picard, Auld and maybe bring back Dawes to give these guys some rest.

  17. adamkennelly says:

    “we don’t have to goon you”..only partially true – cause the impacts of the gooning which took place 2 games ago and then the Chara hit last game reaped their benefits last night. Habs team has ZERO response for any of that – nothing..its embarrassing to us fans and I’m sure its embarrassing to many of them in the locker room. We all saw the impact of it last night. Team is too small and too soft – period…if they go up against a bigger team with talent – they are finished. there are tons of glass half full people posting today – you need to take a good long look in the mirror – huge game last night and our team could not have performed worse. not one person challenged Chara…sad.

  18. ccamp31 says:

    Boone, I agree with a lot of what you have to say usually, but I think there’s some unfair criticisms and evaluations in this write-up. I forgive you though, you must still be reeling from the beatdown we took last night.

    I agree with you wholeheartedly about Price and Subban. Superstars in the making, and every team in the league would love to have them.

    What I don’t agree with:
    – You don’t think teams would want Plekanec, Gionta, or Pacioretty? But Krejci and Horton are shoe-ins? I’d take our 3 over those 2 any day.

    – You SHOULD add Pacioretty to the list of budding superstars. I’m not saying he’s going to ever be a 40-goal scorer, but he’s developing into something every team always seems to want but can’t find…a power forward that can skate and score.

    – I must have been watching a different game than you, because I thought Darche was very embarrassing. He’s forgiven because he hasn’t played in forever, but he was fumbling the puck all night and shouldn’t have been out on our PP (yes, I know, he’s one of the few guys who goes to the net, but his hands are almost as hard as Moen’s).

    – I totallly get your criticism of Cammalerri (add Kostitsyn to that), but I actually thought Gomez was one of our better players last night. He created the most scoring chances, but unfortunately Gionta was not in sniper mode last night, and Moen…well, I’d probably have just as good of chance as burying one as Moen. And to criticize him for his 2 penalties? One wasn’t even a freakin’ penalty…he whiffed on the so-called high stick on Chara.

    Yes, there D is battered and looked awful last night, but the forwards have to start helping in their own end. I think our biggest problem right now is our lack of offense. The first line is a mess. Plekanec has been struggling (even before the injury), Cammalleri has stopped scoring (which is the only dimension of his game that’s strong), and they have no third linemate to play with. Halpern should be a 4th line center, not a 1st line winger. The second line is suffering from the same problem. They have a 4th line winger in Moen playing alongside them. Pacioretty’s return will rememdy that, but not sure what to do about our 1st line.

    • Max_a_million says:

      Not a bad post overall.

      Although Gomez was lost and dreadful with dumb passes, dumb penalties, and slow dumb play.

      I think the forwards were too beat up to help last night.

  19. BeachHabFan says:

    how soon we forget – the B’s were mailing it in and down 4-0 at the end of 2 before chara hit patches; the b’s fans were wailing about them being quitters, unprepared, sure to flame out in the playoffs (if they even made it) etc… Not sure what it is with this rivalry but it’s either feast or famine. even the 3-2 overtime win by the habs was unwatchable save for the last 5 minutes. don’t like the trend i’m seeing though – if you’re gonna lose, lose hard. at least they were pushing vs buffalo; vs the b’s they seemed like they didn’t want to be there. and i love Gionta, but at some point the Captain has to stand up and lead by example , and not just by bouncing off chara a few times, but by taking on or out Mr’s recchi, marchand, etc…

    i find this eerily familir to the Philly situation. Richards beaks off about one of their own, nobody steps up or calls him out, and now we’re shitty against them. Bleeaaahhh.

  20. MikeMcLaren says:

    You can tell we’re totally screwed for the playoffs…

    This season, think of all the blowouts we’ve suffered! We lost to the Sabres 8-2! We lost to the Rangers 10-5! Double digits! Not only that, we lose 6-2 to the Islanders and 8-3 to the Sabres AGAIN!!!???

    There’s no way we’re doing anything in the playoffs, NO WAY!

    (if none of these games ring a bell, these results are all from the 1992-93 NHL season – a season in which the Canadiens did absolutely nothing in the playoffs, right?)

    /\\ike
    GO HABS GO!

    • RGM says:

      Well played, good sir.

      Carey Price is All Hart! http://on.fb.me/CP31Hart
      Go Habs Go!

    • Clay says:

      I see your point…but that team was far superior to this one in almost every aspect. No, not almost – in every aspect.
      Don’t believe me? Look for yourself.
      http://www.hockeydb.com/ihdb/stats/leagues/seasons/teams/0000451993.html
      And take Roy’s numbers with a grain of salt – it was a different game back then.

      __________________________
      The only interesting answers are those which destroy the questions. ~Susan Sontag

      • Max_a_million says:

        It’s interesting that you want to discount the higher goal scoring for Roy because it was a different game, but you want to count the scoring numbers on par. This doesn’t seem even handed to me. You might be right, but your can’t discount one without discounting the other. More goal scoring means more goals given up, and more goals scored. Again you may very well be right, but your evidence is lacking.

        • Clay says:

          If all you saw in that line-up was higher scoring, then you missed a lot. Grit, determination, toughness – there was a lot of that on the ’93 team. Kirk Muller (94 points, gritty as hell), Mike Kean (60 points, ultimate competitor), Lyle Odelien (plus 35, 205 PIM), and the list goes on…that team had skill, toughness, great defense, and the best playoff goaltender in the history of the game.
          This team has PK and Price.

          __________________________
          The only interesting answers are those which destroy the questions. ~Susan Sontag

    • Max_a_million says:

      Oh my I was hating your post when I first started out, and then it turned into about the best thing I could have read today.

      Thanks a_million!

  21. cunningdave says:

    Yikes, and imagine if we hadn’t won the season series? We’d really be screwed!

    Chillax. I didn’t see the first goal, but the ones I saw were mostly kicked in by our own defensemen or deflected off of forwards’ sticks. That means they are out of position, or over-playing. We still beat these guys 4-1 in our building two weeks ago, and it was easy.

    As for the Big Bad Bruins, a 4-3-3 L10 record does not a rocket make.

    Brian Gionta would be welcome on any cup-winning team. Cammalleri scored 13 in the playoffs last year and was slow going into the post-season. And yeah, just about anyone would go to war with one of the best goalies in the league. The consistently underrated Hal Gil would be welcome too – just ask the Penguins two years ago. He wasn’t any faster back then.

  22. B says:

    It looks like the bi-polar switch is firmly on Chicken Little in here today.

    Over the last 10 games, the rising rocket Bruins got 11 of 20 points while the sinking stone Habs only got 10 of 20 points.

    Among their last 10 games those big, tough and hungry Bruins lost 4 in a row including losses to the horrible Habs and the lottery bound Islanders. To snap that loosing streak, the big bad Bruins mustered up a statement OT win squeaking out the Blue Jackets. Stuff of legends that?

    6 of Montreal’s last 10 games were against teams ahead of them in the standings. They won 4 of those 6 games. Pitiful floundering that?

    I think that more than the last game or two counts in an NHL season, so I am not ready to throw in the towel over a stinker or two. Even though last night was a hard game to digest, the sky has not completely fallen and I can even still see a bit of the sun from where I stand. There are still some more games to be played this season, but so far the Habs have done a bit better than I expected going into it.

  23. Fansincebirth says:

    A co-worker (Sens fan) watched part of the game and he thought it was a weird game, almost like the outcome was determined and understood by both team and the Habs were basically just going through the motions.

    Welcome to the new NHL – NASCAR on Ice

  24. notbigbird says:

    Apparently, I picked the right game to watch this week and the right one not to watch. They were both strange games; we aren’t 7 goals better than the Wilders, and history proves that we aren’t 7 goals worse that the Prunes.

    This team looks good when it looks good and very bad when it doesn’t — mainly because they lack the talent of some teams, so when they don’t show up, the results can be dismal. When they play their team game with spirit, however, they remain a difficult team to play against.

    I think the injuries plus The Hit have had their way with the Habs for now. They’ve had the stuffing knocked out of them so to speak. If and when they can recover remains to be seen.

    As for Gomez, whether you thought the trade was good or bad at the time, I don’t think anyone expected the player that we have seen this year. It seems that some guys don’t excel in Montreal — a whole lot of them, actually — and, unfortunately, he seems to be on that list. Arpon suggested earlier this year that he be used as a main piece on a shutdown line, and I’m inclined to agree — at least until he regains any semblance of offense.

    Finally, it amuses me when people bemoan the fact that Carey has carreyed us [sic]. When you draft top five, that guy had better be pretty darn important to your team. If we had drafted a stud skater instead, maybe our goalie (Halak?) would be called on less — in theory anyway. You can’t have it both ways.

    I have a feeling that Saturday won’t be any better. I think they’re in another funk — their third of the season. And nobody quite does the funk like these guys do the funk — for funk sakes!

  25. Fred D says:

    The Canadiens had two games last year like this, one against Florida and one, that I watched with Ian Cobb in the Tamps barn, against the Lightning.
    Point is this: A few games later they turned it around and were winning and played into a fairly deep playoff session which nobody expected.
    Nobody can continue to play as badly as our team did last night, so we have hope!

  26. jbroderi says:

    It’s just a game. Big deal. If it gets in the Canadiens heads, that may be a different story, but blow-outs say very little about anything, except that one team cashed in early and the other gave up. I’m not thrilled that the boys couldn’t get up for this game, but I’ll get over it. If they make it a trend in the next couple of weeks, I’ll be very worried, but if they get it going a little, Boston doesn’t scare me, it just tells me that we may have a series on our hands!

    “I’ll take potent potables for 500, Alex” JB

  27. Jbird says:

    I will always be a Habs fan. But after last night I have realized that I am an adult and need to not have any emotions tied up with the team. I am ready for a four game series.

    This is the dumbest thing on the boards – and it way to positive for all of you – but if Gio just would have scored into the open netb on the pass from Suban when it was 3 to 1, the Habs could have at least avoided this historical and possibbly rivalry changing game.

    What might rid this team of Gomez is something that bad. Something as horrible as that loss, if it is to continue, gives a mandate for drastic changes to the Locker room: Gomez to the Minor League.

    And where did the spell check go? ;-)

    • jbroderi says:

      I think Gomez is great and gaingin the zone with speed, but the opposition knows he is just going to stop and search for a pass that isn’t there. There is no fear of him shooting the puck, he just passes it continually into skates. He has to break his game down and start going around D on the outside and bringing the puck to the net. Very few players I have seen can get the zone so easily. But then he just pisses it away. He has to go wide and go to the corners and the net with speed, then find someone to pass to. everything is too perimeter based.

      “I’ll take potent potables for 500, Alex” JB

      • Former Jets Fan says:

        And PK has proven himself just as adept at gaining the zone, but he actually tries to get closer to the net.
        Gomez goes just far enough that his linemates commit themselves to offence, such that if his pass isn’t on the money, it’s an odd man rush.

  28. TommyB says:

    Embarassing? You betcha. Last night’s game was a real stinkeroo, to put it mildly. But too many people this morning are blowing things way out of perspective. As tends to happen with Habs fans. Maybe I can put some little things back in order here. I’ll try, at least.

    First…last night is not a game to gauge the remainder of the season and the playoffs on. If you’re being honest with yourself, you had to expect the B’s to win this “big revenge” game in their own barn. The only surprising thing, is that is was a 7-0 shellacking. Four Habs returned from injury and were parachuted directly into the lineup. Maybe that wasn’t such a great move. How effective was Pleks and the other three? Were they game-ready? I know they are pros, and they should be able to just pick up where they left off, but that doesn’t always happen. Did others stand around waiting for these guys to get something going? Same thing can be said for the lack of any revenge of any kind. Guys probably wanted to do something, but with the NHL’s best in stripes, and bigwig brass in the stands keeping a watchfull eye, there wasn’t a whole lot that could be done, and again, guys were watching to see if anyone else would initiate something.

    Price…Carey Price is not melting down. He is not getting tired. He is human. Games like this happen to every goaltender. If Price were in fact tired, or not mentally ready to play, Martin would have yanked him after three goals. The bar seems to be set at five goals against, with Martin, before he pulls Price. That wouldn’t be because Price is tired, it would be because he doesn’t want to embarrass his star goaltender. Trouble is, he waits too long for that and does end up embarrassing his goaltender, thinking that his guys can score a couple of quick ones to get back in it. Jacques, c’mon, think about it. Three or four quick ones don’t happen that often with the best of teams.

    Playoffs…Everyone assumes the Habs will play the Bruins in the opening round, and everyone also assumes they will lose to them. Well, first of all, it is not guaranteed that Boston will be the opponent. Look at the standings and you will see that the Habs could finish anywhere from 5th to 8th. Only a sixth place finish would put the Habs against the Bruins. If the Bruins all of a sudden have our number, and I am not totally convinced that they do, they may be concentrating too much on a playoff series with a team they may not meet. And for the Habs, no matter who they meet, it will be a team that finishes ahead of them. It will be an uphill battle regardless. The underdog role has worked well for this team in recent years, and until this team is top contender, the underdog role is what they will get.

    Finally…The Habs need to get some semblance of a solid lineup set for the playoffs. The injury list and the callups have played a big part in the inconsistency of this season. So if what we have now can remain healthy, and Martin can get some decent lines and D-pairings set, and the hockey gods allow him to keep it that way, maybe the Habs can create some excitement for us for a couple of weeks in April. Funny how when the Habs have won this year, they have recieved so much praise from the fans, and Martin has been singled out as doing a great job with his mangled lineup. But almost each time they lose, those same fans turn a complete circle and start flinging the crap. The soap opera of hockey in Montreal continues.

  29. Clay says:

    Hey Boone…aside from the game (on which you said all that needs to be said), I was wondering – as were many others – if you are ever going to get the “new comment” feature back on this site? It was an extremely useful tool, and saved a lot of BS.

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  30. PrimeTime says:

    Ha Ha. I can’t believe the expectations of our team from most of you….including Boone. Really…#25 this year? Perhaps if the score was reveresed and this was a Bruins site the commentary would make sense! If anyone truly believed this was a contending team please check your bags at the Reality Store. All year our team has been a tier 2 team and without Price playing lights-out we are probably a tier 3 team clawing for a playoff position. Sure 7-0 sucks against your rival at an important time of year but so what?? Are we out?? Will the boys quit like many of the attitudes here?? I doubt it…..they haven’t all year and they have had a multitude of times when they could have. Next game is a new game and so is the one after. Playoffs are a different animal. We’ll see which teams will meet or exceed expectations.

  31. SeriousFan09 says:

    Cammalleri’s shoulder is crapping out on him, he rushed himself back and that’s the issue. Look at him with the puck, he can’t make quick movements with it to hold the puck or make a play.

    – I shall always remember Captain Koivu. Habs and Hockey.

    • Clay says:

      If he is hurt (which I doubt), why isn’t he taking therapy days like others have done lately? It makes no sense…

      __________________________
      The only interesting answers are those which destroy the questions. ~Susan Sontag

      • SeriousFan09 says:

        I think he has taken some therapy days but playing w/ the bad shoulder is just making what he had before worse. He seperated his shoulder and rushed back in. Now, he can barely puckhandle.

        – I shall always remember Captain Koivu. Habs and Hockey.

      • Jbird says:

        Hard day for excuses. But it does seem to my untrained eye that that guy has not had a hard shot on net in 10 games. I’m talking about his shot, not his lack of heart, or grit. . .

  32. Shiloh says:

    I can’t believe that nobody has picked up on the Boston organist playing “Paint It Black” after PK made a rush in the first period. That was the lowlight for me.

    Notwithstanding, three other points:

    1. Gomez: Nomez
    2. It’s amazing in a way that Price (#5 overall) has been given every opportunity to blossom but Pouliot (#4 overall) is glued to the bench seemingly the first chance Martin gets. Gomez gets shift after shift after shift, but Benny gets a seat.
    3. Mary Louise Parker – she’s fantastic.

    • jbroderi says:

      I remember the song being played, but I hope it was just coincidence. No one will know I guess, but that is a large charge against a person. If he did it continually, which he might of, then It would be despicable

      “I’ll take potent potables for 500, Alex” JB

    • Broon says:

      You have got to be kidding? Moonbats in Montreal…maybe they should have played “Dirty White Boy” as Plekanec made his way to the sin bin to serve his 4 minutes for decapitating Horton. Stop being ridiculous, geesh. I think your touk is on too tight as well.

  33. Guy-Guy-Guy says:

    I for one think the Canadiens management were in a tough spot about last night’s game;

    They knew they weren’t going to win this game without Plekanec, Halpern, Sopel and Darche. Obviously Plekanec, Halpern and Sopel are not completely recovered from their injuries. Plekanec did not get a lot of icetime last night, and couldn’t compete when he was on the ice. His line finished something like -4. I doubt Halpern even got 10 minutes of icetime, he was on the PK once or twice and not very effective either.

    Cammaleri hasn’t been 100% healthy since returning from injury. His speed and acceleration is not there. He fears going into the corner.

  34. Gindan69 says:

    Boone, your the prototypical Montreal fan. They win, here comes the cup, they loose, they should be an AHL team. The Bruins are better? Last night they were, but that 4-2 record this season tells us they aren’t in “gasp” a 6 games series. Yes the bruins made a statement, they can beat a team that didn’t bother showing up.

  35. Laramy87 says:

    Cammy is obvioulsly not 100%. I think Habs should sit him until the playoffs, similar to what the Caps are doing with Ovie.
    I would rather have a healthy Cammy in the playoffs than someone who is struggling now and not helping the team at all.

    Play Price only 3 more times of the 7 games. Let him rest.

    I still like our chances against Boston in the playoffs tho. Just imagine, if Chara didn’t take out MaxPac, i truly think that game in Montreal when it was 4-0 after two could have been similar to last nites game in Habs favouor. Habs dominated every aspect of the game, similar to what Boston did last nite

  36. RGM says:

    Boone made a comment last night during the game, after one of Gomez’s Stupid Penalties (TM) where he reminded us that we have 3 more years of this at $7.8M per season. In response someone suggested a buyout. I’m torn as to which is worse: paying him $7.8M for three more years, or paying him $2M every year for the next six years (with cap hits ranging annually from $1.8M to $4.8M) to not be a Montreal Canadien anymore. The figures of a Gomez buyout can be seen here: http://bit.ly/e1qpuR

    I think that ultimately, as Boone stated, we are stuck with Gomez. Unless there is a Sunbelt team in desperate need of reaching the cap floor, there is no market for a trade. While the Molsons are not hard up for cash, I’m sure they have very little interest in paying him millions to toil in the AHL or Europe.

    What is a little disheartening is that there are a good number of players who are UFA after this season, players that we will not be able to pursue due to the albatross that is the Gomez contract. In my own quick game of “Would You Rather?” I look at what’s out there and I ask you, “Scott Gomez, or Simon Gagne and Scottie Upshall?” Sure the Habs have a lot of people coming off the books this year and there will be some salary fluctuations in terms of what Gorges, Markov, and possibly Gill and Hamrlik are re-signed for. But an extra $7.8M not dedicated to Scott Gomez is the difference between signing a legitimate superstar and signing some middling talent that is a sideways move instead of truly improving the club.

    Carey Price is All Hart! http://on.fb.me/CP31Hart
    Go Habs Go!

  37. Dulljerk says:

    It is time for Jack Martin to bench Scott Gomez. Or if he doesn’t have the kahungas to do that, at least demote him to the fourth line. It is also time to impose a hit quota with this team. Every player requires 5 hits per game or they are fined. None of these guys finishes their checks. Last night was complete bush league and they looked like they were scared. Sad thing to say about “men”. I’m sure they will have a rough practice this a.m., and it should be a mandatory for all players to show.

  38. nick says:

    I don’t know if it was just me, nut I thought the whole team looked really weird last night. Can’t explain it. Maybe everyone was just trying to keep their emotions in check and a result toned everything down a little too much?

    • prt22 says:

      Seems to me that after we allowed a few goals the boys conceded the game and were just trying to get out of Beantown with their backbones in working order.

  39. PuckHead72 says:

    What an embarrassment the Canadiens are. Fans clog 9-1-1 lines when one of your players gets cracked in two. First off who calls the cops? the COPS!? Then the statement game comes with a chance to get the division lead to 1 point and go out and play for your injured teammate, and the team pukes all over themselves and gets their a$$e$ waxed 7-0. What a disgrace. But that’s how they play the game; guys stick gets caught in your midsection – flop to the ice for the call; stick waves around your face – grab your face like you just got shot with a rifle and hit the ice for the call. That’s the moto. Not to mention the hypocrisy of the entire organization, nevermind the fan base.

    Pacioretty takes 10 strides staright of the bench and labels Marc Eaton from behind into the boards – it’s a good hockey play and Eaton had time to move; Chara pinches Pacioretty off at the boards from trying to sneak through – and 1) Canadiens fans clog 9-1-1 lines trying to have him arrested 2) The organization tries to have Chara suspended even when 24 out of 30 GM’s vote it was an unfortunate hockey play 3) Canadian sponsorships threaten to step away from the game because it’s becoming too violent (did they do that on the Paciorettty hit by the way? NOPE) The organization is a joke. The fans are a flock of sheep looking through red “homerific” glasses. And the players are an embarrassment to the game and a disgrace when a statement game comes.

    They will be lucky to make the playoffs this year. “Whhhhhaaaaaaahhh we have injuries!!” Pittsburg’s missing the best player in the league and one of the top 5 players in the league and your missing scrubs. How many points do they have again? Shut your face about injuries. If you don’t finish the season good it won’t be beacuse of injuries. It will be heart and good hockey (which they’re not playing) So good luck. But hey if it doesn’t work out, I guess you can always just call the cops. Clowns.

    • Curtis O Habs says:

      Sounds to me like you are a still angry Bruins fan. What are you angry about? Oh ya, your lack of cups.

    • Gindan69 says:

      He’s angry because he knows the nightmare scenario is going to unfold again in the playoffs. A big fat choke against the habs, like most springs.

    • Top Corner says:

      Well make the playoffs , and knock bawwston the fudge out 1st round. And it will sting ! Dont be fooled like you booin fans get this time every year !!

      Your playoff run will be cut short if Flopper lays an egg……rask will not save the day…..and they loaded there team at the deadline with old leafs/senators rejects….and with your history of choking out in the playoffs , your lip flapping will come back to bite you.

      So in the meantime, hope your team doesnt suffer any injuries during your next 3 games vs. the rags/flyers/hawks….i have a gut feeling last nights game will be your highlight of the season :)

    • BostonHabsFan says:

      Missing a bunch of scrubs, huh?? Typical Bruins fan that has no idea about players outside of Boston. Andre Markov? All-star defenseman and arguably the best player on the team. Josh Gorges?? Another very good defenseman. And what about Pacioretty? Upcoming star.

      As a Boston native, I sadly have to listen to these tools all the time. Did you know that the Bruins never ever do anything wrong? They are the picture perfect franchise. Before these fans cast stones, they should take a look from top down at their classless organization.

      But, not to worry, these smart fans are all back on the bandwagon after one win against the Habs. They are too stupid to realize that their team will choke in the playoffs once again!

  40. tony d says:

    I’m shocked that JM has called a practice today. I was sure he’d give the ladies a therapy day so they could all get pedicures and bikini waxes.
    Statement game, ha that’s a joke.

  41. RiverviewCanadien says:

    To me, games against BOS are everything. I hate them with a passion, always have and always will.

    HabsProfessor has it right, NAG. This team is weak and it showed last night. I don’t want to hear the excuse they are not 100% healthy. If they are that banged up, the reason is because they are too small and can’t protect themselves or dole out those hits.

    Playoffs…I hope.

  42. Chris says:

    Interestingly, the loss last night leaves the Habs 8-8 in shutout games this season. :)

    That’s the extent of the emphasis I put on that game.

    (Although I still think we match up poorly against the Bruins in the playoffs, but I’ve believed that since Day 1 of the season based on the rosters…I could care less about the regular season head-to-head records).

  43. Gerry H says:

    In the immortal words of Rene (via Aislin): Everybody take a valium!

    The Habs took this series 4-2. They beat this team 4-1 just three weeks ago. They have kept pace throughout the season.

    Yes, they sucked last night, but no, the season is not over!

  44. Laramy87 says:

    One bad loss and the sky is falling. Every team has them. Look at philly losing to the rangers, washington has been handed their lunch. It happens. Best way is to file it away and come out strong next game.
    Habs are a good team, and with our injuries its been tuff, clearly all the players were not 100 percenet. Still 8 games before playoffd, we will get back on track


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