About last night … with postgame audio

Emelin against Phoenix

AUDIO: Josh Gorges | Travis Moen | P.K. Subban | Brian Gionta | Jacques Martin

Pierre Ladouceur’s game report card

Pierre Durocher’s last game story

As anyone who follows this blog knows, Josh Gorges is my man.
The poster boy for overachievement was an undrafted free agent coming out of junior and an unknown when the Canadiens got him from San Jose in the Craig Rivet trade.

That might have been Bob Gainey’s best deal.

Trading with Sharks’ general manager Doug Wilson, the brother of one of his best friends, Gainey got the first-round draft choice the Canadiens used to select Max Pacioretty in 2007.

Gorges showed up at training camp and impressed with his hockey smarts and spirit.

Both qualities were n display for the sequence that led to the winning goal in Phoenix.

Gorges got clobbered behind the Canadiens net by a taller, heavier Phoenix forward.

He picked himself up, dusted himself off, moved up ice and converted a nifty Lars Eller play into the goal that got the undermanned Canadiens two valuable points.

Gorges hadn’t scored since Oct. 15 last year. That one was a winner, too – 2-1 over Buffalo.

Then came a season cut short by knee injury, a summer of rehab and a one-year contract to prove his value to the team … again.

Many of the things Gorges brings to the Canadiens don’t show up on the scoresheet.

He’s one of the leaders in the room – and a valued source of good quotes for the media.

He’s Carey Price’s best friend on the team, and that was important two seasons ago when The Franchise was going through tough times.

Gorges is also a steady defence partner, and the latest beneficiary is P.K. Subban. Last season’s rookie sensation did not have a great October, but P.K. is playing smarter and more controlled since Gorges became his partner.

Subban and his teammates need a good November.

The win kept the Canadiens within four points of eighth place in the Eastern Conference, but the schedule is about to become brutal.

Starting Saturday night in Nashville, the Canadiens play nine games in 15 days.

Five are at the Bell Centre. The Canadiens are 2-4-2 on home ice this season, but the advantage is a short ambulance ride to the Montreal General Hospital.

Interviewed at morning skate in Phoenix, Jaro Spacek said the team has had a healthy lineup for maybe 10 of the games in the two-plus seasons he’s played for the Canadiens.

The team that escaped the desert with two points was missing Andrei Markov, Scott Gomez, Andrei Kostitsyn, Mike Cammalleri and Chris Campoli.

Maybe we’ll see them all in the lineup at some point this season.

But I’m not holding my breath … like all of us were when Tomas Plekanec slammed into the boards and lay on the ice for a scary long time during the first period.

The whole season looked to be in the balance until Pleks came back to assist on one goal and do the spadework on another.

The team has two irreplaceable players: Plekanec and Carey Price.

One of them will be waking up sore on Friday, while the other savors a very solid effort, highlighted by the 17 saves Price made in the second period.

Price’s D helped. It was solidified by the addition of Yannick Weber, who was shifted back from fourth-line forward duty after Jacques Martin benched Alexei Emelin.

In addition to missing three top forwards, the Canadiens played and won a road game using three lines.

Playing hurt, Pleks centred the most dangerous lined, with Brian Gionta (a goal, an assist, five SoG) and Travis Moen, whose five goals leave him one short of last season’s total … with 67 to play, in a contract year.

David Desharnais played one of his better recent games, and both of his power-forward linemates, Max Pacioretty and Erik Cole, had good chances. And DD, who struggles on faceoffs, won 13 of 18 against Phoenix.

Lars Eller had three SoG, four hits and a couple takeaways centring Mathieu Darche and Aaron Palushaj, who played the most energetic game of his yo-yo Montreal/Hamilton season.

I’d still like to see Eller centring Cole and Max-Pac. But all the injuries have thrown the line combos into a blender, and bitching after a win is conduct unbecoming a blogger and a gentleman.

228 Comments

  1. C_exacte says:

    Gomez on the wing & on the 4th line?? and Budaj vs Rinne?? looks like Martin’s giving PG the 1 finger salute for firing Perry Pearn. Still waiting for Hal Gill to center our 1st line, he almost had a breakaway last game.

  2. HardHabits says:

    Last night was possibly Subban’s best game of the season IMO. He was practically invisible and still was a +3 on the night playing the most minutes at 25:34. IMO this is the way he needs to play for he and the Habs to be successful. Solid and vanilla. He’s better when he keeps it simple and doesn’t try to do too much on his own. I mentioned he has been too obvious in his play and has gotten burnt for it. Last night he was bordering on deceptive. He played as part of the unit. His game was dominant.

    The contest was also a goaltending duel in parts as Smith faced 17 shots in the first and Price faced the same number in the 2nd. Neither goalie let one in during either of those barrages. The difference in the game as a whole being that one goalie let in an extra goal. Such is the case in the new tie-less NHL.

    Pacioretty led all forwards in ice time at 22:24
    Gionta was next at 20:23
    Desharnais 20:02
    Moen 19:53
    Cole 18:35
    Plekanec 18:04

    Eller 16:44
    Darche 16:14
    Palushaj 13:22

    Nokelainen 9:00
    Blunden 1:43

    The good news and the bad news. Martin likes to roll three lines. He has a penchant for riding four forwards in excess of 20 minutes. Is this a recipe for injuries? IMO yes. I’d prefer to see him have confidence in four lines and be able to be equally comfortable with his three defensive pairings. As it stands I suspect he is wary with his defensive bunch so would rather integrate Emelin slowly. At least Palushaj saw ice time on the top three lines and didn’t have to languish on the Palushaj-Engqvist-Weber experiment. For the first time since I’ve seen him play an NHL game he looked like he belonged. Martin has shown in inordinate amount of confidence in Desharnais. He is the little engine that could it seems. He’s slow. He gets knocked off the puck consistently. He gets mauled into the ice and boards. Yet he never flinches, still competes, can catch a pass like he had the puck on a reel, and does many of the little things right. On offense I see him as the weak link yet he still brings enough to his game that the chain remains intact.

    I am a hockey fan who liked the 4 line game the Habs played in their mini winning streak. Those games included a better fore-checking game and were the most entertaining to watch this season. The Blunden hit changed all that. Actually it was probably already festering in JM’s mind during the 2-1 rope-a-dope 3rd period in Ottawa.

    As for the three line obsession, if it’s the price to pay for integrating Emelin my major concern is at what price in terms of potential injuries or burn out for overly taxed players.

    As for the System, I think the Habs need to work at extending leads in the 3rd period if they’re ahead rather than trying to protect them. Last night’s game should have not needed to have to go to overtime.

    Nevertheless, it was a needed and gutsy win led by; Price, Subban, Gionta, Plekanec, Moen, Cole and Gorges, with honorable mentions to Desharnais, Eller and Pacioretty.

  3. stephen says:

    Don’t know if it’s old news, but RDS is reporting Gomez will play tomorrow, with Budaj getting the start in goal.

    Lines at practice:

    Moen-Plekanec-Gionta
    Cole-Desharnais-Pacioretty,
    Darche-Eller-Blunden
    Gomez-Nokelainen-Palushaj

  4. Sean Bonjovi says:

    Emelin = Goals Against

    “Andrei Kostitsyn is a better hockey player than Max Pacioretty”
    – Sean Bonjovi

    • habfanacrossthed says:

      Must of been on the ice for a goal. Stats have him as a plus minus of 0. I know he was on the ice for the Boedker goal but i’m blaming Nokelainen for that one.

      GHOD – Go Habs Or Die

  5. habfanacrossthed says:

    I tried my best to translate French to English and understand Pierre’s report card from the game. I disagree with so much of this. Anyone read it and understand?
    Also Cole had 5 hits and 5th on the team in ice time (Gionta, Moen, DD, Max Pac) Erik has 4 shots on goal no misses.
    Emelin had 4 hits in 7 minutes of ice time. 1 shot on goal.
    PP time – DD gets 1:23 ice time and 20 mins ice time. 0 sog. 0 hits. Eller gets 37 seconds ice time. and 4 mins less then DD, 3 sog, 4hits
    Subban gets less ice time on the PP then Spacek, and Weber. Great work JM.

    GHOD – Go Habs Or Die

  6. HardHabits says:

    I have an idea. Send Martin to the press box to watch the games from the same vantage point where Ladouceur used to watch before he replaced Pearn. Martin could then be given a nice shiny new 9×11 notepad, a table and 4 or 5 pens with different colours so he can get really creative with all his note taking.

  7. G-Man says:

    A brief summary of posts: Emelin being ruined by JM because JM doesn’t allow him to make an errors because he hits people. JM’s system makes sure players do not go to the net to score (even though he’s been bitching about that since he arrived in Montreal).
    Even with last night’s win, PG and JM should be fired. I think I could repeat this post all season long and it would remain pretty accurate.

    • V says:

      Well, think your summary is just a tad biased. My bet is you will probably continue to repeat that post whether it’s accurate or not.

    • slapshot777 says:

      I remember other posters and maybe one of them may be yours about the same song and dance about how JM is ruining young players last year it was Eller and Subban. Look at this season, does Eller or Subban look ruined to you ?

      JM may not be the ideal coach, but he seems to get the young players to buy into the system and when they do that they player a much better rounded game. Some posters are just not patient enough. Eller is a much better player than last year and has the season progresses you will constantly be seeing an upgrade on his overall play.

      The same will apply to Emelin. This is his first season in a new league with a new team and system. The rink is smaller, the players are that much faster because of this, so his timing and decision making has to be that much faster. Again progress comes in stages not overnight. JM or Ladoceur will get the best out of him, he just needs to be willing to learn. If he is than he will be that much better. Time will tell.

      To you from failing hands we throw the torch, be yours to hold it high.

  8. durocher says:

    Happy we got the win, but not happy with JM’s use of Emelin. Weber has a great shot, he hit the crossbar, but Diaz was completely outmuscled twice on the Torres goal and lost body position. Emelin, by contrast, is a tough, strong forward who we need on an otherwise soft, small D.

    I don’t get JM’s favoritism for Weber and Diaz when we have a much-needed tough D-man available. Yes, Emelin made a mistake last night, but who doesn’t and JM should have shown more support for him.

    • CHasman says:

      Totally agree with you on Emelin over Diaz. I love it when I see a Montreal body check end a rush completely. Emelin does it, (as does Cole) and it’s great to watch. He makes some mistakes but not as many as Diaz. Speaking of Cole, you can really see how a big power forward can make a difference. Hits that change the flow of the game and driving to the net. He’s been playing so much better andI would play him with Pleks and Gio.

    • Forum Dog says:

      I agree with this post. People talk about Emelin’s mistakes, but I saw him make a few big hits, keep people honest, and even get back and help nullify a Boedeker breakaway. Maybe not reflected in the plus minus, but he played a decent game, considering he gets sporadic ice time. He’ll develop quickly given a chance. That said, Martin probably does need to use him judiciously. Too much ice time might hurt the team.

  9. V says:

    A lot of posters wanting Emelin to develop. I do as well. But sitting out the third won’t have as much damage on Emelin as a loss last night would have had on the team.

    Does not mean we would have lost with him in there – but the coach is paid for wins and if he feels he has a better shot with Emelin sitting that’s his choice. And under the circumstances, JM is going to do anything he thinks it takes to get wins. I imagine PG and the team are on that same page until they significantly improve their record.

    In a perfect world, i.e. Markov in lineup and more wins under our belt, we would probably see more of Emelin. But that’s not what we have.

    It’s a process.

  10. montreal ace says:

    I have to share the fact that my sisters son is on TSN tonight in the Hardy Cup, He is WR Snyder, plays for the Dinos and got a 90 yard touchdown last game. Go Dinos Go. cant wait for the game to start.

  11. samTHEman says:

    Tony on the 990 post-game show on Plekanec “what if” injury:

    “He’s not really irreplaceable…Scott Gomez would step into that role”.

    LOL yeah maybe 5 years ago. Pleky is truly irreplaceable. I don’t even have to elaborate. If he doesn’t get this he doesn’t belong in Sports radio.

  12. The Pickle says:

    I’ve been saying for YEARS they should take out the boards, WWE style ring ropes baby. If the puck goes out of play, blindfold a player and have him shoot it back in…

  13. montreal ace says:

    Yumpin Yemelin, that a good pic

  14. mrhabby says:

    Mike Cammalleri for Bryan Allen (canes)

  15. habs001 says:

    Pk is the type of d you need on your team to be a cup contender..he is very good in his zone,especially when he gets crowded in the corner in getting the puck out..yes he has made mistakes but you can see has the potential to be an elite player..he may not have a big scoring season this year(but may pick it up later) but i believe he wil be a point producer in his career once we upgrade the quality of the team on the ice and behind the bench.

  16. HabinBurlington says:

    To any members past or present of our armed forces who visit this site, Thank-You, We do remember.

  17. Neutral says:

    How is this team ever gonna be successful with injury prone players – I don’t think we see the same team 5 games in a row – this team is not going anywhere and it’s not for lack of effort it’s due to key player injuries and we don’t have good enough players in the AHL to replace them.

  18. nova scotia vees says:

    I agree with those who wonder why certain players are given more leeway than others. I like DD’s hustle, but he doesn’t deserve as much ice as he gets. Gionta and St. Louis are also small, but still manage not to get knocked off the puck as often as DD. He also looks to pass all the time, ala, Gomez.
    We need more bulk on the blueline…Emelin should be used more. And yes,….I still want the coach and GM……gone, gone, gone.

  19. The Big O says:

    What I would love is for someone with the Habs Media to ask Martin, why he thinks its absolutely ludicrous to have a tough guy on the team who would only play 3-4 mins a game and hence the unemployment of one, yet he plays Blunden only a min a game? If that’s the case why not have a deterrent on the bench instead?

    Also completely not understanding his love affair with Diaz, he completely misses the coverage on Torres and fails to tie him up resulting in the game tying goal, yet he doesn’t miss a shift, if Weber or Emelin on D did the same thing, they’d be sitting! (still not sure why Emelin got benched) I’ve said this many times already, Diaz will be more of a liability to this team on D then he will in contributing to the team on D. HE should be the Mark Streit experiment…

    • Bill says:

      Haha, don’t hold your breath waiting for the media to ask a critical question. We know how that works.

      Maybe Jessica will if the Count hasn’t revoked her media pass.

      Full Breezer 4 Life

  20. 24 Cups says:

    Here’s a player to keep on eye on tomorrow night when the Habs play Nashville – Craig Smith. Never heard of him? Don’t worry, not many people have. But right now he’s the leading scorer for the Preds and is a serious candidate for rookie of the year honours.

    Craig Smith > 15/7/714/0/3

  21. montreal ace says:

    Love the win last night and the reaction after Gorges scored. I still like this team with its character, and will to win. I dont know if they will make the playoffs but I dont see it happening from lack of effort.
    To me the real story is we are 5 points out of third even with our injuries. I dont care which team they face, if Montreal makes the playoffs, they will be dangerous.

  22. mjames says:

    Which is more accurate?
    Glass half full – 4 points out of 8th place
    Glass Half empty – 3 points out of last place

    A good win last night but being realistic Pierre, your team is going nowhere AGAIN this year. We will win one and lose one – basically a 500 team. Let me ask you is this what we want?

    mjames

  23. HabinBurlington says:

    Diaz – 15 Games played, -3, 1goal 2assist,6pim, 18:19 min. per game avg, 25.3 shift per game
    Emelin – 8 games played, -2, 0pts, 2PIM, 14:12 min. per game avg. 18.4 shift per game

    I have no idea why Diaz is developing confidence quicker than Emelin, clearly both have been given the exact same opportunities.

    I suppose the added element of surprise which Diaz brings to our lineup which is so unique from Weber, Spacek, Gorges you know that big body presence.

    Yah I am completely bias, I may be overreacting, but reality is, both players have made mistakes, but more importantly Emelin brings a complete different element to the game. Why not give him the same opportunities to develop given this benefit. Of course I view having a physical dman to be a benefit, JM, well who knows.

    Does Diaz have a father handling JM’s investments in a swiss bank account?

    • ooder says:

      great post.. this whole emelin benching is absurd.
      we finally get a d-man who is not afraid of getting his nose dirty and throwing out some big hits and he gets benched.
      makes no sense.. obviosuly he will make a mistake here or there, the guy barely speaks english, and is adapting to NA ice.
      so what does JM do.. alienate him by scratching / benching him.
      he is basically getting the AK treatment
      ——————
      The 2010-11 Stanley Cup was not won, but given

    • sevenman says:

      to add to your post

      last night

      Cole 5 hits in 18:35 played
      Moen 4 hits in 19:53
      Eller 4 hits in 16:44

      Emelin 4 hits in only 7:07

      all other 6 defenseman combined, 6 hits in 119:29

      Not saying that hitting is everything but Emelin brings that part of the game that is sorely missed on this team. As far as making mistakes, how can you not when you sit for six games or so and then play so few minutes when you get an opportunity. All defenseman on the Habs make the occasional mistake, except for some reason this guy’s leash is a little shorter.

  24. joe-hab-nuno says:

    He looks like he jumped at least a foot off the ground.

  25. joe-hab-nuno says:

    Didn’t watch the game, but what did Torres do to Emilin in the picture above?

  26. Duke_Rauol says:

    Any word on how long Cammi is out?

    ——————————————————————-
    We were somewhere around Barstow, on the edge of the desert, when the drugs began to take hold……

  27. Hali_Hab says:

    P.s. I am not saying I agree with benching a rookie after he makes a mistake. That’s just the JM style. Also I think that always having key injuries never allows a coaching staff the ability to properly insulate your rookies and give them time to develop, Instead the lack of healthy key personnel puts your rookies/ second year guys in to heavy minutes and unfair situations where people expect big play out of them to go along with their big minutes. All the while forgetting they are rookies.

    So the question then becomes, what has management done to address the obvious injury problem? Have they insulated their smaller players with size? To an extent.

    The common thread over the last 3 years has been injuries and it’s so prevalent a theme on this club that some one should have started to think that it’s not just freak bad luck but rather the position you put your team in when you. Assembled the core of your team, seeing the terrible pattern that is now common place one would think that it would lead to a logical change in philosophy?

  28. habstrinifan says:

    Boone goes ecstatic on Gorges’ goal. While I slept better last night because of the WIN, I pay more heed to the remarks of Subban… which I paraphase.

    (I saw him jump up and wondered where the hell he was going).

    This to me says more about the team, about the tentativeness of the players, about the separation of forwards and defense when we have the puck and are ‘attacking’… (great example is around the 4:00 to :430 mark of the 3rd … about the coaching.

    The puck possession obtained (started by Subban’s clean and precise pass to Gorges who was able to ‘go on the rush’) and the shift in ice-positions triggered made the opportunity for a rush not only clear but mandatory if a win was to be had. The fact that an offensive defenseman like Subban now thinks like that at a time like that is very telling to me.

    This team

  29. K-hab25 says:

    Interesting facts about Price’s start through 14 games last year and 14 this year. W-L, 8-5-1 last year, 6-6-2 this year. SV% .918 last year, .905 this year. GAA – 2.29 last year, 2.49 this year. TGA – 32 last year, 35 this year. Last year he had 6 games he gave up 2 or less, 8 with 3 or more. This year, he had 9 games he gave up 2 or less, 5 with 3 or more. Last year he lost 5 games ALL SEASON when giving up 2 or less, this year through 14 starts, he has already has lost 3 games, that he’s surrendered 2 or less. Bottom line Price has had some stinker’s, CGY, COL and the 2nd TOR game, but he’s actually been consistently better this year, than last. He’s given up 18 goals in 4 games (4.50 gaa), the NYR game and the 3 above, but only 17 goals in his other 10 starts (1.70 gaa). He started off the year 1-4-2 with a 3.14 gaa and an .878 sv%. In his last 7 starts he’s 5-2-0 with a 1.86 gaa and a .931 sv%. I just figured I’d post these FACT’S, to counter some of the Price basher’s on this site, that claim he’s awful this year compared to last season and is the reason for our poor start. Well besides JM (-:. One final tid bit I found interesting, facing 30+ shots, Price is 4-1-1, when facing less than 30, just 2-5-1.

  30. Ian Cobb says:

    130 of us from all over North America this year.

    5TH ANNUAL 2011 HIO HAB FAN SUMMIT NOV. 18,19 & 20.

    We will all meet and greet at Hurley’s pub Friday eve. Some of us will be having supper there, and name tags will be given as we watch the Hamilton Bull Dogs on big screen.

    Everyone is welcome to join us. Ware you team colors! and enjoy the evening.

    Saturday morning, breakfast is at Chez Cora’s at 8 or 8:30am. Mike Boone and other guests will be joining us. You can order a la cart and everyone gets 15% discount off your bill.

    We then walk over to the Bell Center for the Hall of Fame Tour for 10:30am and the Bell Center Tour is at 11:30am. You need to purchase a $5:50 ticket for the Bell Center tour.

    After the tours there will be a Media and Fan professional presentation put on by former concussed hockey players. Kerry Goulet, Keith Primeau and other players who are Involved in educating the effects of concussion, depression and neurology rehabilitation.
    (location is the Novotel hotel, just up the street)

    At 3pm the Children’s Foundation Charity raffle and pre game dinner at the Baton Rouge restaurant. bring one item each if possible please, so everyone can win a gift to go home with.
    Rejean Houle will join us at the dinner with a Canadiens team signed stick for the raffle.

    Then we walk across the street to the Hab’s and Ranger’s game.

    After the game the 2nd floor of Hurley’s pub is reserved for us again, to celibrate the win. Anyone may join us, just identify yourself as a HIO member.

    Please be generous with your charity raffle gifts and your purchase of raffle tickets. It is a way for the HIO community to give back to less fortunate kids.

    Enjoy talking hockey and meeting your wonderful HIO family.
    See ya there.
    Ian Cobb

    HIO Fan Summit Organizer (613-968-9807) if you need anything.

  31. ooder says:

    why was emelin benched? that is very counter productive.
    emelin needs ice time to adjust to NA ice as well as playing with a new team.. obviously he is going to make mistakes if he doesn’t get to play. this guy is our only physical presence, and JM is benching him

    ——————
    The 2010-11 Stanley Cup was not won, but given

  32. Ozmodiar says:

    Before the season started, there were plenty of comments where the sentiment about the line-up was “If Moen’s in the top 6, we’re in trouble.”.

    So, i guess if we refer to whatever line he’s on as the 3rd line, we’re good….well, at least as far as Moen’s concerned.

    • Bob_Sacamano says:

      Moen was utter crap last season, a couple of decent games with Eller and Kostitsyn aside. This season he looks like a different player, a very decent 3rd liner. Good for him, good for the team.

  33. Kooch7800 says:

    Ben Maxwell just got claimed by the ducks off waivers.

    Good Win last night. PG needs to resign Jorges long term. Think of our D without him next year

  34. Here’s a look at the trailer for the new movie ‘Goon’. …Destined to tug at your heart strings if you like brawlers that are black sheep in intellectual familes!

    http://www.hockeybias.com/hockey-news-past/2011/November/Goon-Red-Band-Trailer-HD-video.html

  35. kempie says:

    You know what this team needs? A few more small, quick, right-handed rookie defensemen with a big shot.

  36. Hali_Hab says:

    Emelin got benched after he got caught giving phx the 2 on 0 they had.

    • habs03 says:

      I noticed, he also got caught chasing the man with the puck behind the net and leaving the slot open a few too many times. But I think we can all see that he has talent, just needs adjustment.

  37. The Torch says:

    Thanks to all Veterans on this Remembrance Day!
    Attaboy Josh!
    Spacek’s comments about the injuries this team has suffered go hand and hand with the most penalized team in the league. The size of the Canadiens allows other teams to take physical liberties and retaliation sends our boys to the box. Injuries plus penalties equals poor results.
    This is a very fast team when the wheels are turning. It’s time to add some real size up front to keep them rolling. Yemelin’s ice time needs to increase now.
    “Lest we forget”

  38. Castor says:

    I’m thrilled that our Habs won last night but Jacques Martin has still got to go. Melnick had a great tweet last night saying “If this team went to the net they would have scored 4-5 goals on Smith”
    I agree. A team with this many talented players and we struggle to score each and every game…..and, at least recently, when we DO score it’s not because of skill but because of the other team making a huge mistake (Gionta’s too easy take away wrap around last night and Eller getting a pass from Ottawa’s defenceman in our last win)

    I love our team but I feel like they win in spite of the coaching…and it’s a struggle every time.

    • mdp2011 says:

      what are you saying? That JM is telling his players not to go to the net? Oh boy, now I have heard it all. I am not the biggest JM fan, but seriously?

      • Castor says:

        Yes. Seriously.
        Of course he is not saying “don’t go to the net’ but he is a defense first coach and it’s obvious to me that the players don’t go all out offensively because they have their assignment to get back as soon as the scoring chance seems to have ended.
        Hence 45 shots a game from crappy angles and no results.

        He’s handcuffing his offensively gifted players. Been that way since the beginning

        • mdp2011 says:

          Nothing to do with the defensive system, but has everything to do with not having the players willing to pay a price to go to the net. Other than MaxPac, Cole and sometimes AK, all the other forwards are perimeter players that don’t drive to the net. This is not because of JM, but rather how the team was assembled.

          • TommyB says:

            I would disagree. Gionta plays tough in front of the net, so does Pleks, so do others. But it’s only natural that your bigger forwards such as Max, Cole, and AK drive the net. The guys you call perimeter players are the playmakers. They get the puck to the net. Could it be that JM can’t keep a line together long enough for them to figure each other out?

        • Miltie01 says:

          Just to be factual, I saw Jacques in an interview bemoaning the fact that none of the guys would go to the net and stick there. I have also heard Cassie Campbell say the coaches mentioned this to her between periods. As a matter of fact Martin wants his player to get to the front of the net and stay there to get goals.

    • NCRhabsfan says:

      I couldn’t agree more. Did you notice to start the third period they were in “protect the lead” mode to the exclusion of all else. And, comme d’habitude, it didn’t work. I can’t stand the Martin hockey.

  39. Chris F says:

    It’s scary to think JM might be the reason Emelin gets frustrated and leaves. This guy can be good, and he’s the only hitting threat we have. PK cannot be counted on to make the big hit, we need him to carry the puck up the ice, make plays, etc.
    I watched Emelin make three or four great hits during the first half of the game, I didn’t see what happened to garner a benching.
    When Gomez comes back, DD gets fourth line in any good coaches mind.
    Weber, Diaz, Spacek, Gorges, even Campoli, they all bring basically the same game. Undersized, tries very hard, gives a little offense (very little), doesn’t hit, doesn’t fight, uses stick to win battles rather than the body. These are reasons why we need a D man like Emelin, and four more like him. NO other D in the league stick checks as much as our team, were good at it no doubt, but it’s by neccessity most times due to our lack of size and strength.
    Good on Moen and Gionta and Pleks.

  40. mrhabby says:

    people crapping over diaz and emelin as rookies..unreal.

  41. Duke_Rauol says:

    Why did Emelin get benched? Did i miss something? Thought he was playing solid.

    ——————————————————————-
    We were somewhere around Barstow, on the edge of the desert, when the drugs began to take hold……

  42. avatar_58 says:

    So why does this team continue to outshoot opponents for a period or two but rarely pull out ahead score wise? Are they just terrible shots or what? I counted tons of missed chances. This game could have gotten very out of hand, but instead they kept missing and missing and then it was 1-0 coyotes.

    I mean yeah they won, but this is getting hard to watch. I thought they largely dominated this game.

  43. Ian Cobb says:

    More than 2 goals for us in a hockey game is just fantastic, even though we needed more than regulation time to achieve it.

  44. Iceberg84 says:

    I’ve always liked Travis Moen and was really excited when the Habs signed him. I hope they keep him next year and don’t let him back in the FA pool like they did with Moore, Metropolit and others. To me he represents the ideal grinder: he does what needs to be done and helps his team any way he can. Plus he did that Corner Gas skit so he clearly has a sense of humor/humility about himself which is something I also appreciate in professional athletes.

    • joshua94k says:

      Travis Moen is a great acquisition by Bob Gainey. As is Josh Gorges, PK Subban, Carey Price, Brian Gionta, Hall Gill … the guys this team is depending on ritht now.

      “Just tell them to shut up and let him play” – Bob Gainey on detractors of Subban

  45. joshua94k says:

    The Canadiens are improving on their even strenghth goals this year. One reason is because last night was another game where the team had only one powerplay. Like games with the Bruins, Rangers, Leafs, it seems the Canadiens can’t draw penalties or the referees put their whistles in their pockets.

    A great effort by the team. Carey price was rock solid. We had the twin towers on defense with the duo of Subban & Gorges playing monster minutes, over 24 each. Plekanec was mr. all – rounder doing everything, winning face-offs, setting up goals, killing penalties…

    The young guys were impressive. Desharnais is getting better at face-offs and Palushaj showed strong energy every shift.

    …for Gorgie to step in there like that shows a lot of courage and that’s why he has a letter on his jersey – PK Subban

  46. 44har48 says:

    Wicked thrilled the Habs won last night, I truly hope they win each and every night. Having said that, I am sick and disgusted by the coaching and I just can’t take it anymore. This is the new NHL, if you want to sit back and play defense you will be penalized or give up goals, it’s the way the league is built and officiated today. Yeah you will get some wins, but it won’t be enough to go anywhere at the end of the day. I loved the old days when we would jump on teams, get a 1-2 goal lead, and stifle them for the third period defensively. Those were awesome days. They are gone. You need to attack and draw penalties, play the game in the other end where it is easier, just like we did most of the night to get the 2-1 lead. Then JM strikes with his pathetic strategy, sit back, afford the opponent time and space to make plays, just what Phoenix wanted, and gave up the lead. Playing not to lose, instead of playing to get the 3rd goal to put them away.
    And I am furious over how he has handled every Russian not named Markov. He has and continues to kill AK, who if I were him, would leave this team in a heartbeat in the offseason and go score 40 with someone who will use him correctly. Emelin being benched after a mistake, that I see Gomez and Gill make routinely, is starting to get really old. This guy is exactly what the Habs need desperatly and you are not going to get better and learn the language or the smaller ice by watching on the bench or in the pressbox.

    • mrhabby says:

      then i guess you would hate the golden boy in tampa with his dreaded 1-3-1 system.

    • TommyB says:

      Mostly agree with what you say…and I’ll add this. You have to figure the opposing team knows full well that all they have to do is just stay close for two periods when playing the Habs. Then in the third you can turn it on while they sit back. Add in a few solid hits on the little guys, and you can get a Hab in the box late in the game. This is a solid gameplan when playing Montreal. The answer is that the Habs have to score more goals and create more breathing room on the scoreboard. Score more goals, I know, easier said than done. But it is what they need to do.

  47. TommyB says:

    Can’t help but notice all the hate for Diaz, and love for Emelin on here both last night and this morning. Have the Habs become that bad? We have to resort to crapping all over rookies who are trying to learn the North American game? As far as I’m concerned, I haven’t seen anything to get very excited about from either of those two. But I realize they are just rookies. Rookies being forced to hold the fort with the long list of injuries on this team. Bring back Markov and Campoli, and both Diaz and Emelin take a back seat.

    I think a lot of fans see Emelin as some kind of opponent-crushing saviour on this team, but I don’t think Emelin has lived up to his reputation so far. Sure he hits, a little, but nothing that has made me sit up and say “WOW”. I agree that he needs to see more ice time, and I do think there could be a language issue there, which could be holding him back a bit. Not to mention a coach that….ah, why bother. Anyway, both Emelin and Diaz are not NHL ready IMO. However, right now they must be in the lineup. So those who want to crap all over Diaz should cut him some slack. I don’t think Diaz was signed to be a hard-hitting defenceman. His skills are more suited to jumping in on the offence. You need both kinds of defenceman on a team. Take a breath…and hold it until we get some experience back on our blue line.

    • Old Bald Bird says:

      I don’t hate Diaz, but I don’t much like how he gets preferential treatment over Emelin, whom I think is the kind of player that we need to work with and hang onto. I don’t think people can understand why the two are treated so differently and are taking out their frustrations — perhaps inappropriately.

      • TommyB says:

        It could be that Diaz is getting a real good look right now because he will be the one heading to Hamilton as soon as we get Markov or Campoli back. It could be that Emelin will be sticking around since he would not be going to Hamilton but back to the K instead. Maybe the brass figures they have lots of time to work on Emelin. Just a possibility.

    • HabFanSince72 says:

      I’m not sure hitting is such a big deal for defencemen nowadays anyway. Komisarek hits everything that moves but at the cost of being out of position. A D-man has to be physically strong of course, but I’d say skating ability and vision are more important than hitting.

    • Ian Cobb says:

      I kind of like Diaz over Yemilin myself Tommy. Both young rookies making mistakes, but in a pinch I take Dias.

    • New says:

      It is always like that. Both Emelin and Diaz have potential but they are not ready. A lot of the players on the team have big contracts but frankly have never, or perhaps once, achieved that level. It is what it is, an average team for the last 19 years or so whose fans worship the past and see it reflected in the faces of young men trying their best.

      You will never convince the media or fans here that the teams that won the cup are better than their Habs. Likewise if the season goes into the crapper, which it appears to be doing, they will find a scapegoat. The only one who actually resisted that label in the last few years was Kovalev who stuffed the remarks down the media and coaches throats .

      A team of potential average NHL players led by players who never were and a coach with a history of underachievement. A coach whose job was saved by the same never were’s who pulled together to move into the third round of the playoffs listening to Muller rather than him. A team that groomed a sports psychologist to coach, then stuck with the underachiever, pushing the team in waiting out the door.

    • WindsorHab-10 says:

      How can Emelin live up to his reputation when he’s not given a chance to play? Furthermore, when he does play, one mistake & he’s glued to the bench. We lack size & toughness. Emelin has both, Diaz does not.
      Still have a clueless coach so I guess it does not matter.

      “Hate Bruins like a sickness”

    • JF says:

      Good post. Agree about Diaz and Emelin. Neither is really ready, both are bound to make mistakes. I like Diaz; he’s fast, he’s a good passer, and he has a good shot. Both he and Emelin will be good, but it’s going to take time. Once Markov and Campoli are back, Diaz at any rate will get less ice time and be under less pressure. But overall, the defence has been a lot better in the last 8-10 games than it was at the start of the season.

  48. HabFanSince72 says:

    Interesting piece on Greg Pateryn. He was a makeweight in the Grabovski trade, but is turning into a pretty good hockey player and a leader in Michigan.

    His linemate Mac Bennett, another Hab draftee, is also doing well.

    http://www.michigandaily.com/sports/pateryn-emerges-leader-hockey

  49. Psycho29 says:

    Gorges gets stunned with that big hit in OT, and sitting on the bench dazed asks “Who Am I”???

    “Larry Robinson” he is told by Randy Ladouceur…

    Minutes later he scores the winning goal………

  50. Le Jadester says:

    From the popcorn gallery:

    Gio played like a captain yesterday. Kudos !
    Pleckie, made me shited my pants a bit and then returned with a solid game. Kudos
    Price solid. Kudos

    RE: Emelin benching/handling of development by JM

    Its SK74 all over again.
    This is a huge problem I have with JM . He’s not impartial. He clearly picks his favourites (i.e. Diaz). A coach should develop and mould his players to a certain degree. That’s the human element and craft needed in making players better. This old dumb “Eff” just “effs” players up that have talent and then hurts the club with his methods. If he owned the team, then fine, I could live with it because it would be his assets that he’s squandering, but its not his team ! It the supporters team ! And he has a responsibility. Eff that piece of shite. Fire JM !

    Habs, OLE !

    • Neutral says:

      I’m with you BOB the lines you have suggested is the way to go for the 3rd and 4th lines they could go with.
      Moen – Desharnais – Gionta
      Darche – Gomez – Nokelainen/Blunden
      our top six is: Max-pac, Plekanec, Gionta, Cammalleri, Cole, Kostitsyn – at least 3 of these have to be scoring every game if we are going to move up in the standings – the other 6 what ever you get from them is a bonus along with the defence – so JM give it a try and see what happens.

  51. Bob_Sacamano says:

    Splitting up Eller and Kostitsyn would be beyond stupid.
    Cammalleri-Plekanec-Cole
    Pacioretty-Eller-Kostitsyn
    is the way to go.

    You can call it bitching after a win as much as you like but how
    Emelin gets treated by Martin is a disgrace. I am fine with our forwards but we have the softest D in the league and to bench our only real physical dman after a mistake that didn´t even lead to a goal is a joke. JM probably didn´t mind watching Diaz bouncing off Torres like a bulimic 10-year old girl…

  52. punkster says:

    Before heading for Laffland territory for a weekend listening to various family members and old friends go on and on about “this is the year”…I have a few thoughts:

    PK’s play is definitely improving. He’s becoming a solid D who has far fewer brain farts, covers for his partners, is aware of his forwards and only takes those risky end to end strolls when warranted. I don’t see any evidence of the coaches holding him back. I do see evidence of a young man maturing in his role.

    Emelin will be granted a far bigger role with much more ice time once he proves himself to be more comfortable with the system and his team. After the long wait for him to join this team I have no problem with the additional instruction and having him ease in to the role. I can only hope JM doesn’t “ruin” him like he “ruined” PK last season or that management doesn’t “rush” him like they “rushed” Price a few years ago. Pffft.

    Diaz will be here at least until Markov returns. There are few other choices. The experience is good for him and I expect he’ll improve.

    DD will be here all season, again because we have few other options. Whether he is 3rd or 4th line centre is irrelevant. He and Eller are the rookies and will likely alternate in that role for the season with occasional shots at lines 1 and 2 if required. To imagine either would displace Pleks or Gomez yet is unrealistic.

    If the Habs could ever…EVER…find the back of the net we wouldn’t be nitpicking over second rate defence men or 3rd and 4th line centres. But then, apart from tanking, what else would there be to gripe about?

    ***Subbang Baby!!!***

  53. HabFanSince72 says:

    Things I don’t understand:

    1. How can you expect people in Phoenix to take to hockey with that garbage?

    2. Lars Eller. Why does everyone anoint him as a top centre? Here’s a stat: in 100 NHL games he has as many goals as 19 year old Tyler Seguin has this season.

    3. The Diaz hate. Sure he’s having difficulty, but he’s a rookie. Not sure he’s any worse than Emelin either.

    • Bob_Sacamano says:

      1. I don´t care.
      2. Patience and two decent wingers are the key. Pacioretty also had trouble putting up points for quite some time. Play Eller with Pacioretty and Kostitsyn, give them PP and the points will come.
      3. No Diaz hate here. You can call it JM hate if you like. Emelin brings something different which not a single other of our dman (Subban aside) has. Weber, Diaz, Spacek? It doesn´t get softer than this.

  54. Old Bald Bird says:

    ” … P.K. is playing smarter and more controlled since Gorges became his partner.”

    Yes, maybe so, but am I wrong to mourn the loss of exuberance and panache. I’m guess JM’s campaign to stifle PK has finally been successful.

    (I suppose the last remark is silly and uncalled for, but that’s just how I am feeling this morning. I honestly didn’t know whether to be happy or sad when Gorges scored the winner — and that in itself is sad.)

    • habs-hampton says:

      I posted last night that I think JM is going to ruin PK. He’s the kind of player that needs to be let loose once in a while. He’s playing likes he’s afraid to make a mistake. All because of a couple of bad plays early in the season. He’s made maybe 5 end-to-end rushes in the last month. That’s not PK! Yes, he’ll screw up once in a while, but he’ll learn. I want him to be Paul Coffey, not Rod Langway!

      LET HIM PLAY!!!

      Time’s up, JM must go!

      • dasbooth says:

        Why do you assume that he can only learn by jeopardizing defense? Why can’t he learn by excelling in the defensive side first, then from that knowledge learn when to go for the panache. I personally would rather have him be a solid d man then someone that occasionally makes a big play on an end to end.

        JM won’t ruin him, he’ll help him to be a well rounded, responsible D, which is what we need in case you’ve been watching Emelin, Diaz, and anyone else that might get called up next time someone goes down.

        Sidenote: why am I not seeing everyone praise Spacek? His play has been stellar, especially last night.

        “Shutouts are really more of a team stat” – Carey Price

  55. 24 Cups says:

    This Saturday, the Nashville Predators will be playing their 1000th game in franchise history against Montreal.

    Barry Trotz is only the 2nd person in NHL history to have coached in each of a team’s first 12 seasons of existence.

  56. Captain aHab says:

    JM won’t do a Eller, Cole, Patches line because it would risk looking too much like a number 1 line and it wouldn’t be featuring Moen or Darche, who seem to know something nasty about JM’s past. I’ll give Moen his dues however, he seems to be way more motivated than last year. Some of the higher paids need to take a look at him and take note. Gionta seemed to snap out of it last night which is good.

  57. JF says:

    Last night started out looking as though it would be another of those games in which the Habs outshoot their opponent but end up losing. Shots in the first period were heavily in our favour but really told nothing about the play. Aside from the powerplay, which was the most dangerous-looking one we’ve had in a while, we exerted no pressure. The shots were almost all from the outside. When Plekanec went down, it seemed like the last nail in our coffin.

    But Plekanec came back and was outstanding. He has the occasional bad game, but overall he is one of our most valuable as well as most durable players.

    Gionta had by far his best game this year. He’s been pretty invisible so far this season, and hasn’t really looked like a captain. Last night he did.

    I’ve been a Gorges fan almost from the first. He lays it all on the ice every night, never taking a shift off, never making excuses. He is also one of the most articulate and thoughtful of the Habs. I would have liked to see him made captain, and I found Gauthier’s one-year offer last summer almost insulting. I think Gauthier should redeem himself by signing Gorges long-term during the season.

    People are all over Diaz this morning. I still like the guy, but he needs to be stronger on the puck. When Markov comes back, he and not Emelin should be the odd man out. Realistically, Diaz must have expected to be playing in Hamilton when he came over, so I think he would accept a demotion with good grace.

    Most of the comments this morning are pretty bitchy. Can’t we just enjoy a rare win? It’s not as though we don’t have enough losses to bitch about.

  58. PureGuava says:

    Kovalev was Gainey’s best deal by a New York mile. I agree about Eller though…give the kid some wingers already! I like him with AK though.

    • Mike Boone says:

      You’re right about Kovalev. Gorges second-best then.

      Mike Boone
      Hockey Inside/Out blogger
      Gazette City columnist
      mboone@montrealgazette.com

      • PureGuava says:

        Thanks Mike!

        I do think Georges for Rivet was a great deal, and if Patches keeps this pace, in a couple of years this will be Gainey’s “legacy” deal. But Kovalev really brought something special to Montreal, something that the city hadn’t seen in years. The mixture of charisma, talent, and enigma that Habs fans love has yet to be replaced since his departure. I would have loved another 2yrs of Kovy making 4.5 million to wear the C, than 5yrs of Gio for the same price.

    • RGM says:

      If Sather had said “Plekanec” instead of “Balej” though, it would have been a much different story.

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    • 24 Cups says:

      Kovalev played three solid years (out of four) while in Montreal. When he was on his game, there was no doubt he was our best player. However, in the end, it wasn’t enough. He ultimately had to take some responsibility for the sinking of the Titanic.

      It’s still early, but there is a real chance that MaxPac could be a real offensive star for the Habs. In a perfect world, he might even become a long-term building block. In that case, Gorges becomes the icing on the cake as the memory of the half-miler Kovalev begins to fade.

  59. RetroMikey says:

    Hey great W, but I look at my crystal ball and see that we still have a long way to go to even make a playoff spot with the schedule we have. We do need to get physical and bigger like the Jolly Green Giant to compete in this league!
    But hey bitching on this site is like bitching at Harper and the Conservatives federally or McGuinty with the Ontario Liberals provincially.
    Democracy, it’s beautiful isn’t it?

    “We will win the Cup one day only with ? in the nets “

  60. Danno says:

    Plekanec only got credited with one assist on the goal by Moen, although it was a great effort by him behind the Phoenix net that set up Gionta’s goal.

    ________________________________________

    “Hey Richard, two minutes for looking so good!”

  61. Chorske says:

    bitching after a win is conduct unbecoming a blogger and a gentleman

    Boy are you ever in the wrong room.

    I thought you came in here for an argument…
    http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-572077907195969915

  62. habs001 says:

    The last 2 years the habs have had a handfull of games where they dominated and won in impressive fashion. They also have had a handfull of games where they looked terrible the whole game and were dominated and lost. Last night was the typical habs game over the last 2 years…they looked very good in certain parts of the game and looked terrible in other parts…these are the games that are usually close and come down to one or two key plays..just as easily as the habs won yesterday they could have lost…now the habs have been able to win more of these type of games over the last 2 years than they have lost…in the long run if most of your games are like yesterday your record will be close to a 500 team with some winning streaks and losing streaks…in the last 2 regular seasons we were above 500 but in the 2 playoffs we were below 500 in winning games…

  63. montrealtilldeath says:

    Second Goal for the Coyotes. Coming into the zone Torres pushed Diaz away like he was a peewee player. They continue control the puck and Torres ends up standing just of the crease and scoring with guess who is standing impotently beside him like a Eunich in a harem. Again Diaz as he is on many significant goals like this this year (Toronto, New York,etc). Yet he turns up out there right after in a critical part of the game like nothing has happened. Just watch Price shoot the puck out of our end himself when Diaz or Weber are on the ice. HE KNOWS!!!. JM doesn’t know. Emelin makes a mistake and he is benched. He is strong and he hits. He will learn if given a chance. Diaz and Weber: to weak to play in our end. I find JM likes the finess European type of play but he fails to realize this is the NHL game which also has the muscle aspect. Again Subban not on the main PP is absurd. I am afraid the one PP goal (not allowed) last night will doom us to weeks of this new configuration if it is a new one. Pleks was not out there as he was hurt at the time. Geoff Molson please!!!

  64. Marc10 says:

    That was a great effort from a depleted lineup. Sure glad Plekky pulled up OK.

    This team seems to play its best when their backs are up against the wall. They’re going to get their wish with the next 15 games. I sure hope St Andrei makes it back in time. We need an effective powerplay fast!

  65. SeriousFan09 says:

    How is it that David Desharnais, the 3rd line centre in terms of ability gets credit for the work of his power forward linemates who do all the heavy lifting for him? Tired of seeing so much talent used to prop up the Hobbit. And JM needs to accept the body check is a part of hockey and not something to punish Emelin for doing. He can hit and use his strength to protect the crease, which is how the 2nd GA occured, Diaz completely ineffectual against Torres and he cashed the rebound, instead of being put on his backside. JM is leaving Carey to get mugged on a nightly basis and ices the softest possible D group he can. He must think he is coaching an All Star game sometimes.

    • Trisomy 21 says:

      I don’t know if JM has a crush on DD or if he’s trying to balance the lines so DD doesn’t get hung out to dry playing with inferior teammates…. Either way it’s unfair to Eller, who would have the same numbers if not more playing with line mates like Max and Cole rather than Darche and Palushaj

    • Matt. says:

      the thing is after DD on the depth chart, who is next in line to centre the third line? Gomez? Nokelainen? Engqvist? Darche (why not, i’m sure JM would use him ahead of Leblanc)

      I cocncur, Eller should centre the second line but DD Is the third best centre the Habs have.

      • VancouverHab says:

        Come on. DD is, at best, a 3rd line centre in this league.He is and never will be as effective as Pleks, Eller, or two-Stanley-Cups-&-one-Calder-trophy Gomez.

        DD is NOT on the depth chart at centre, since he can’t do 4th line duty in this universe.

    • VancouverHab says:

      You’re speaking my thoughts, SF. I absolutely saw Diaz losing puck battles time & again, and no way that compensates for his puck movement calmness.

      I really want to see Gio, MaxPac & Gomez (since it’s worked brilliantly before) leaving Pleks, Cole and ….AK (or Moen in his injury absence….)

    • Habs rule says:

      Could not agree more, time and time again DD gets pushed easily off the puck, and will, if its a big hit, look like he scared.When Gomes gets back I seriously see, Gomez , Pleks, Eller and Nooky as are centers, I hope DD ends up in Hamilton. As for Emilin , I don’t understand his being sat.Big hits , tough in front of the net, and he does, if he ever gets the chance , have an offensive side.Webber and to a lesser extent Diez are being pushed around
      I like Emilin , I think he can be a bid assett to this team, let him play , let him make a few mistakes…………in the end it will be the right move.

  66. yes, Emelin makes a bonehead move, not covering the man in front, ….so did 15 Nickilishin (sp) by not going to the shooter at the point on one goal.. at least 74 Emelin isn’t afraid to connect with a hit and make them opposing rushers think again about a clear path to the net. We desperately need a hit or two…it sets a tone that our defense aside from being mobile, is no nonsense.
    I thought it was a quick whistle on the denied goal…unfortunate. Surprisingly, i didn’t miss cammy that much;, hope gomez can’t crack the lineup, more impressed with Cole, Eller, Patch… Subban had a couple of great offensive thrusts which brings life and seems to pickup the tempo….Overall, i thought that we deserved what we got – worked for it, and hopefully this win will buoy the team. Confidence was waning, and the two points – feels so good to start a a long weekend. Keep it coming.

  67. slychard says:

    Thank god the early whistle by the zebra didn’t cost ‘em the game. Loved how they pretended to put net back on the magnets it never left in the first place. I text’ed my friend how they remind me of myself after being caught staring at cleavage only to feign looking busy…all guilty looking. His response? “the conspiracy against us gets stronger all the time. Definitely early whistle.”

    • ffenliv says:

      You ‘the league is out to get us’ people really crack me up. While early whistles denying goals aren’t a once-a-period occurrence, they’re not exactly rare. However, as a fan, you tend to remember the ones that screwed the Habs, and not the ones you’ve seen screwing other teams.

      I wish the league kept a stat on those, so we could see exactly where Montreal falls in the grand scheme of goals disallowed by a quick whistle.

  68. j2w4habs25 says:

    Bruins won – Leafs won…. the best news in the NHL though is the Habs beat the mighty Phoenix team ! haha….

    Carey Price #31

  69. V says:

    Love the last line of your article Mr. Boone.

  70. V says:

    Wow. Emelin benched. That is big news.

    You don’t often see rookie defencmen who have just made a significant mistake benched in the third period of a one-goal game. Coaches all around the league will be talking about this.

    The only thing more inexplicable than JM’s love for Diaz is the love some posters have for Emelin. Emelin will earn his ice time when he earns it. He’s coming along.

    • Dintrox says:

      remember ryan o’byrne another of JM’s whipping boys? he is doing fine in Colorado. Emelin won’t develop from the pressbox . PG took years to get him here and the AHL isn’t an option play him or let him go back to Europe. ( he wont comeback in a CH but will likely haunt us ) Gomez can float a game or 6 without being benched. sick of Martini’s double standard for vets vs. rookies.

      • Matt. says:

        haha whatever. O’byrne averages the LEAST amount of ice time in Colorado among the six regulars there, and so far he’s scored ONE goal while going a minus 8.

        Colorado can keep him, i’d rather gamble on Bournival

  71. WindsorHab-10 says:

    Only D on the team allowed to make mistakes & get more ice time is Diaz, JM’s lover. FIRE THAT PIECE OF CRAPPOLA.

    “Hate Bruins like a sickness”

    • dorvalhabsfan says:

      maybe markov shouldve pulled the komisarek behind the bench for him lol, im sure they talk anyways they are teammates, but it is frustrating for me to see it go this way. Ive loved the pickup for a long time he just needs freedom.. he made a great play on the breakaway and i find plays like that show character, he made amazing backtrack and saved his butt should serve as a sign hes not a lazy d… but hopefully he plays better and becomes a reliable player
      Go Habs Go

  72. Chuck says:

    It’s simple: if Emelin wants more ice time, he needs to change his number. JM is obviously having SK74 flashbacks.

  73. SPATS says:

    Gotta be tuff for Emelin. Isn’t getting much ice time and when he does, he goes for broke and ends up gambling and losing. Then he gets to the bench only to be stapled to it without a translator to work it out with any of the coaches. He needs Markov there as much as we do.

    OOH AAH – HABS ON THE WARPATH!

  74. stevieboy says:

    Why was Emelin benched? I missed that.

    Stevie

    • SPATS says:

      He tried to pinch a pass in the neutral zone which led to a 2 on 1, and he also had a brain fart by the bench where he was trying to change at a bad time which resulted in a breakaway. He did manage to get back and spoil the chance with a desperate slash at the last minute. Could’ve been a penalty on the play but wasn’t.

      OOH AAH – HABS ON THE WARPATH!

  75. JF says:

    I can understand the apathy and occasionally feel it myself, the season is so ill-starred. But if Markov had been able to start the season, as I’m sure the Habs brass expected him to, the team would be right in the mix. We’re not an elite team, but with a more dangerous powerplay, which is only one of the improvements Markov’s presence would bring, we’d be solidly in the middle of the pack. Except for a couple of games, especially the one against Pittsburgh, we haven’t been nearly as bad as our record suggests.

    A lot of people on here seem to have stopped cheering for the team. The thinking seems to be that things are so bad that we ought to seize the opportunity to tank. Even though I agree that changes are necessary – changes in direction and certainly in coaching – I can’t really embrace the philosophy of tanking. It’s too negative. I’m happy when I see the Habs give an honest effort, and I can’t not celebrate a win. There’s a lot of hockey still to be played, and other teams will surely have their problems as well as us. However, to repeat what I’ve said several times, I don’t want to see Gauthier trade away more picks and prospects for a chance to grab the final playoff spot. If we’re in the hunt at the deadline, fine. If not, play out the season, draft the best player we can, and make changes over the summer.

  76. joshua94k says:

    That’s a bargain compared to how much Sidney Crosby is paid. As for Markov, one has to see the effort he has put in the last two years in rehab to get in game shape.

    “It’s too much for one guy to shoulder. For us, we’re going to do it as a group. It’s about sharing that responsibility win or lose.” – Mike Cammalleri

  77. TommyB says:

    He just needs time in the AHL. Send him to Hamilton for the rest of the year, and I think we would see a great improvement after that.

  78. Kooch7800 says:

    Syd would still be selling Jerseys and merchandise I would imagine. Couldn’t see Gomez merch flying off the shelves lol or Markov for that matter considering he hasn’t played in three years.

    When Markov is back he will make a big difference in this line up

  79. Jocko says:

    the habs are already better than the Oilers. They were lucky to get get out of Montreal the other night with the two points.

    Let’s think about unloading everyone. the Habs would stink and would have to get numbers 1-3 pick in the draft to end up like the Oilers, Hawks, or pens. I don’t know about you, but if I wanted to cheer for a team that would stink that badly, I would cherr for the Laffs!! Get those crazy thoughts from your head!!! Habs fans deserve a team that competes EVERY year, that is what fuels the passion and makes Habs fans THE GREATEST fans on the whole planet!!!

    I don’t want to see Maurice tonight, I want to see The Rocket!

  80. The Big O says:

    See O’Byrne, Ryan as another player Martin didn’t have confidence with…seems to be doing quite well with the Av’s and what do we need, oh yeah big physical defensemen who can skate…seems the habs like to give those away with this coaching and management staff…

  81. WestHab says:

    they call that soccer

  82. krob1000 says:

    no…. soccer is where they get rid of scoring and the boards

  83. HardHabits says:

    If you average the Habs place in the final standings since 1994 they are 16th over-all. That is not a great team nor a great franchise. The only thing the Habs do is make the play-offs.

    Here’s another fact you might want to chew on. Since that time span, every team that won the Cup was top 5 except for the 9th place Devils in the shortened 1995 lock-out season, the 8th place Penguins in 2009, a year after they finished 3rd over-all and on their 2nd consecutive Cup appearance, and the 7th place Bruins last season in a year where the difference between 2nd and 8th was 4 measly points.

    Habs fans might be the most passionate but they are not the most knowledgeable. If the Habs showed signs of being a top ten team I would say they have a chance. Right now they are going to need to win 2 of every 3 games they play just to make the play-offs in the final berth.

    Stay thirsty my friend.

  84. HabFanSince72 says:

    Except he’s not doing well with the Avs. Also O’Byrne did get many chances to play in Montreal, under both Martin and Carbo. He’s just not very good.

  85. Jordio-oh says:

    Oh, please. At the time we had Hammer, Spacek, Gill, Subban, Gorges and Markov, with Weber and Picard waiting in the wings.

    The guy we got for O’Byrne, who is now the number 6 guy on an average blue line that has allowed the SECOND MOST goals in the Western Conference, has 10 goals in 7 games in the Q.

    Adam Foote he is not.

    O’Byrne had three years to show what he had and it just didn’t work out. An everyday hockey move was made.

  86. mrhabby says:

    can’t argue that one. it is getting frustrating to say the least. i thing we still have to hope that molson will do the correct thing and hire the right people when ever PG and JM’s time runs out.

  87. JF says:

    The Bruins finished 3rd last season.

  88. HardHabits says:

    @JF: I mean over-all not by the conference standings.

    http://www.nhl.com/ice/standings.htm?season=20102011&type=LEA

  89. Habsrule1 says:

    LOL….just more of a present day example, but hell if PK gets close to as good as any of them, I’m happy. Markov is top 5 in the NHL when he’s healthy, but you are correct, he’s not Orr, Robinson or Coffey I suppose.

    Go Habs Go!!

    “Fans are great, but the quickest way to start losing is to listen to them.” – Sam Pollock


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