About last night … with audio


AUDIO: Carey Price | Erik Cole | P.K. Subban | Tomas Plekanec | Jacques Martin

Aren’t you just counting the hours until 7:10 on Saturday evening?
The Bell Centre is going to be CRAZY!

Think there will be a few boos for Brad Marchand? (Photo by Brian Snyder/Reuters)

Six months to the day after they lost an overtime heartbreaker to end their season, the resurgent Canadiens played heroically in Boston.

And the team served notice they are back in the thick of a topsy-turvy Eastern Conference race that has the Stanley Cup champions in 14th place.

Despite the best efforts of Marchand, Milan Lucic and Shawn Thornton, the Canadiens did not let the home team goon them out of the TC Garden.

And once again, they got a superlative performance from their All-World goaltender.

Carey Price had help. Raphael Diaz saved a goal, and the defence blocked 21 shots (more about that later). But Price made huge saves – the Rich Peverley breakaway, the Nathan Horton shot from the deep slot – and no one in a black jersey managed to get a puck past him.

The Bruins will be credited with the first power-play goal scored on the road against the Canadiens this season. But that was Price dozing a bit on a clean faceoff win by Tomas Plekanec; other than that, he was a wall.

In nine of the 10 games the Canadiens have played this season, the W has gone to the team that blocked more shots. It is a measure of the willingness to sacrifice in order to win, and the stat was very telling in Boston.

Seven Bruins each had one block. Jaroslav Spacek had six for the Canadiens (following five against the Flyers), Josh Gorges (who played a Hamrlikian 23:42), Travis Moen and P.K. Subban three each.

It’s a measure of the Bruins’ territorial advantage that they directed 61 shots – 30 on goal, 21 blocked 10 missing the net – toward Price, compared to 49 (35-7-7) on Tim Thomas. But the Canadiens were willing to get in front of shots, which can be a scary proposition playing against Zdeno Chara.

The Boston captain played a mind-boggling 28:17 but was not a factor either on the Bruins’ six power plays or in his own end, where Chara was forechecked effectively and coughed the puck up three times.

Here’s a weird stat: The biggest player in the NHL had as many hits as David Desharnais: 0.

Lucic led both teams with four hits and was a menacing presence on every shift. He, Peverley and Tyler Seguin were the most dangerous Boston forwards, and there were a few shifts when the Canadiens – notably Erik Cole – had a miserable time clearing their zone.

Price remained unflappable, however. And he has now excelled on consecutive nights against two teams that like to crash the net.

The Canadiens did some crashing of their own. Max Pacioretty was low-key against the team that nearly ended his career – he’s saving it for the Bell Centre – but Travis Moen, Mathieu Darche, Mike Blunden and Erik Cole were in Tim Thomas’s face. Hard work in front of the net by Cole and Darche got the Canadiens back into the game halfway through the second period, during which they had 18 shots on the Boston goaltender.

Doubtless reckoning that cheap shots on Pacioretty would be classless even by their standards, the Bruins targeted P.K. The execrable Marchand goaded Subban into two minors and an absurd fight that delighted TD Garden’s sophisticated hockey crowd.

But P.K. kept his cool, and Randy Ladouceur, running the D in the post-Perry Pearn era, played him 19 minutes.

A few more stats:

• Petteri Nokelainen went 7-4 on faceoffs, winning five of eight in the defensive zone

• Benoit Pouliot did nothing for nine minutes.

• Cammalleri and Cole each had six shots on goal. Cole also had six Wednesday night against Philadelphia.

• In winning his 101st, Carey Price lowered his GAA to 2.66.

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Icing on the Cake:

Louis Leblanc’s professional debut was spectacular.

And here are a few words from a goaltender not named Carey Price:


  1. DLHABSNUT65 says:

    I was just wondering since they’re talking benching some guys in Boston, what are the odds that they’ll bench the BIG GALOOT Saturday night!!!!

    • Natrous says:

      The chances are zero. Chara is not responsible for scoring goals, but guys like Lucic, Krejci and Horton are supposed to put up points on the top lines, which they aren’t.

  2. The Pickle says:

    How can anyone say the Habs aren’t playing differently the last 2 games? You need only look at the forechecking and the amount of turnovers the Bruins and Flyers commited in their own zone. DD was all over Chara and picked his pocket twice. Montreal needs to work on dominating in the offensive zone and getting to loose pucks in the D zone. Other teams just fire it into an empty space and their guys pick it up and maintain posession, we never reach loose pucks first.

  3. Cam_1 says:

    Price is hot (2-0-0, 1.00, .962 in last 2 GPI).

  4. RetroMikey says:

    Yeah, we’re now winning games against teams we are not supposed to and we are making up the wins for a very poor start of the season. So nothing has really changed in my opinion.
    Will the winning continue?
    Will we be coming back to reality and play inconsistent hockey?
    Will we all ask to fire the coach MArtin after winning these 2 games?
    Do we still need to trade to get bigger upfront and shore the defense?
    Too early too get excited after 2 wins and planning the parade but let’s analyze this team after 20 games.
    We still are a fragile team compared to other teams in my opinion.
    Way too early to get excited about our team but kudos to the team, it was a big W in Boston. Keep it up boys and I’ll be happy again as a Habs fan along with others.

    “We will win the Cup one day only with ? in the nets “

    • Chuck says:

      RM, what’s it like walking around with that perpetual dark cloud hanging over your head?

      Sometimes you’ve just got to enjoy the little things as they come along. I’ve got a feeling that if the Habs to win the Cup, you’d still complain that they won it in seven games instead of six.


      • RetroMikey says:

        There are many dark clouds hanging over everybody’s head now that the month of November is rolling in….:)
        Let’s hope and pray we can have sunny days more often with this club that is assembled.
        But are you happy with the way this team is heading?
        I’d rather rebuild this team than keep retooling this team season after season.

        “We will win the Cup one day only with ? in the nets “

        • Natrous says:

          Is that what you’ve been trying to get at all these years? You’d rather see the team lose, so that they can rebuild through the draft, by taking a shot at the top pick via lottery?

          • RetroMikey says:

            If that’s what it takes to build a winner, yes.
            I don’t want a team eking into the playoffs and wishing upon that fallen star that they make it to the Cup finals, when in fact they bow out after the first or second round which has happened over the past years and say/ “oh well, better luck next time” or “if we were not injured, we would have done some damage” as many have posted on this site over the years.
            Life’s a gamble an so is managing hockey.
            I say let’s rebuild this team back to respectability for the franchise and for the fans.

            “We will win the Cup one day only with ? in the nets “

  5. savethepuck says:

    -Good to see the effort of the boys the last 2 nights has taken some of the sarcasm out of your threads Mr. Boone. I know you were just a frustrated passionate Habs fan like the rest of us.
    -The last 2 nights I’ve watched the team I was sure we had coming into this season.
    -very impressive professional debut by Louis LeBlanc
    -Carey’s becoming a quote machine. After Wednesday’s game re MaxP: “lotta guts, big nuts”
    After last night when asked about their first goal: “I played it soft. it was a mental mistake, it happens. It happened to Bill Buckner”.
    I love him making reference to the worst sports memory in Boston history since the Red Sox sold Babe Ruth. It happened 2 months before he was even born. The 25th anniversary of it was Wednesday. Even better if he was answering the question by someone from the Boston media, but I’m not sure.

    “They don’t hang Conference Championship Banners from the rafters here”
    Carey Price

  6. Bash says:

    As already well noted Thornton made several runs at PK last night. Without a response we ran the risk of another Dman injury. Thornton has to be handled at some point or that injury will happen! He is a goon…nothing more.There is little to do but dress someone to fight him! Get him out of the game and move on! I hate that this type of player can still get a job in the league but they are out there and we need a response.

    Max was very quiet last night and finished few checks…surprising or not?
    “If all you have is a hammer, everything looks like a nail.” (anon)

  7. el heffe says:

    Every time we play Boston its the same repetitive arguments from posters. We need more size, more hitting etc… Check the stats. Habs hits 18. Boston hits 17. Check the stats against ANY team that is suppose to out hit us. Seriously, next time check them. The Bruins play the same game against us every time and we own a MASSIVE advantage in the win column against them over the years. I know..i know..they won the cup with their hard-nosed style. Well, we all watched the series against us and they barely escaped with the win. How many more games do we need to dominate these goons with our speed and transition game before the arguments stop.

    Charge it to the Underhill’s.

    • MasterHab says:

      Look, you can crow about our historical advantage over the Bruins if you want but it’s not that relevant. What is more relevant is the more recent past, not what happened in the 60’s or 70’s. The fact of the matter is that since our 43 year playoff series unbeaten streak was snapped in 1988, the Bruins have, on balance, been the better team in this rivalry. 2002, 2004, 2008. Other than that, the Bruins have had their way with us in the games that matter most.

      Who cares that we “almost” beat the eventual Cup champs last spring? What are we, Leafs fans now? We came close but in the end, we lost and they won and because they won, the way they do things is automatically and incontrovertably better than the way we do them. If that were not the case, the Habs would have won. But they didn’t.

      And it isn’t just us. Every team in the league will be trying to do what the Bruins did. Success breeds imitation. Maybe if it were possible to win a Cup with a team of David Desharnais’ every team would be drafting 5’6″ centres but it isn’t and they aren’t.

      What happened tonight was an anomaly. It should not be taken as a sign that the Pierre Gauthier/Jacques Martin school of passivity is actually a recipe for success.

      • scavanau says:

        “What are we, Leafs fans now?”

        That killed me…

      • NCRhabsfan says:

        That’s nonsense. Neither team has dominated recently. 3 OT wins in a 7 game series against a team missing its biggest star and at least one other key player is hardly domination. I don’t think the thing that puts us over the top into a dominant position vis a vis the Bruins is a goon or like animal, I think it is a premier sniper. Had the Habs had someone that could solve Thomas in the playoffs last year, the series is over in 5.

        The Bruins will not repeat because this year the league will not tolerate all the nonsense that happens between whistles. That and in their goal crease is how they won last year.

        • Derek2 says:

          I think that when a team beats us 3 out if 3 in overtime it says that they when they needed a goal they were consistently better; were able to turn it up a notch when needed, and that we were generally out-muscled when it mattered.

          That said, I have been really encouraged by the fore check in the last two games. Two man and bigger bodies up front, getting the opposition off balance in their own end. Haven’t seen that in a long long time. Especially in the dying minutes… much better than watching us collapse all the time.

          Our chief weapons are fear and surprise

      • HabsfaninMA says:

        The Bruins were lucky to get out of that playoff series against us last spring (even with their team healthy and the Habs pretty depleted). If Pacioretty had played, does anyone not think he would have been good for a couple of goals the way he was playing? With three games decided in overtime, he would have been the difference. That series doesn’t go 7 games with Pacioretty in the lineup, and the bruins would have cleaned house.

    • HardHabits says:

      When our speed and transition game beats Boston and Philadelphia in the same play-off run.

    • Chewbacca says:

      the arguments will stop when the cup is being paraded down Ste-Catherine street. This is hockey, the team needs to be tougher and when guys like Thorton and Lucic take runs at anyone on the team we need someone to set them straight. Problem is we don’t have anyone so all we get is a never ending parade of our best players to the clinic.

  8. Marc10 says:

    Here’s a question….

    What would it take to land Shea Weber…?

    We know Nashville are going to lose him for nothing over the summer…

    What if we trade AK46 and pick/prospect/Weber to Nashville for Shea Weber? Nashville can hope to sign AK before he goes UFA to be with Little Bro and we get the best D available and have a couple of months to convince him to sign a long term deal. Heck, we can bury Gomer in the minors and trade Markov to get some of the missing offence back.

    We know Nashville needs offence. We know they’re going to lose Weber for nothing. Is this even remotely possible?

    Just throwing it out there after having drunk a few beers (perhaps too many…)

    • Handfield8 says:

      They cant lose him for nothing, hes still an RFA this summer, thats why they were okay with the one-year arbitration award rather than pushing hard to sign him to a multi-year deal.

    • vivsterjuve88 says:

      I think there’s definitely the possibility. The options tossed up are good too as Andrei can maybe find his potential there the same way they’ve helped sergei with. Yannick Weber can also be a puck moving defenseman they’d find handy. I can’t shake the feeling we’d need to toss in one of our better prospects and a 1st round pick. That being said, as great as shea would be for our team, lets keep in mind subban isn’t going to come cheap next year (i’m guessing 4mill/yr) and we’ve got markov’s 5.75mill to deal with. Add that to likely 7mill/yr for weber and we’re talking somethin around 17mill for 3 defenders. I’m thinking something would have to give there, maybe trading markov?
      I love him but weber is worth the extra money and a hell of a lot more reliable, health-wise.
      If we can find a fair trading partner for markov (nashville won’t take him, we’re assuming they only part with weber for cap reasons) then we jump head-first into the weber sweepstakes, and if we can’t, we’ll be in too far with defensive salaries and forced to allow a big drop-off past our top 3 (or 4, dunno what to expect of a gorges contract). Lets keep in mind we’re about to join the list of teams with expensive goalies while still juggling the heavy salaries of gionta/cammalleri/plekanec/cole, and likely a salary doubling for eller and pacioretty in the near future

    • CharlieHodgeFan says:

      You have forgotten how good Markov is. Trade him? That’s a PG (Parental Guidance) discussion. The man is hurt. He will be back and he’ll be great.

    • Nine1one says:

      I think the real question is how can we land suter. We have a better chance to get him imo

  9. Nobody says:

    “The excreble Marchand”! Thank you Boone! That made my night!

  10. jwhogeveen says:

    Can’t edit post from iPhone. *Leblanc had 3pts

  11. jwhogeveen says:

    Not sure if anyone posted anything but leblac had pts tonight with the dogs.

  12. durocher says:

    So if Emelin is scratched now, what happens when Campoli and Markov come back?

    He’s too good to lose or sit. Our D is super soft and, were it not for a brilliant performance by Pricey, we would have lost this game.

    We can’t let the W hide the fact that our D is vulnerable and weak.

    The infatuation with Weber is unfounded in my view — he was our worst D and didn’t do anything on the PP either.

    Him and Diaz had 0 hits total — having both of them in the lineup is not a sustainable way to win.

  13. longbow says:

    Line of the night : Rod Francis on the Team 990 pre-game show referring to Chara as a blunt instrument

    After so many years it’s nice to see a defenseman in charge of the defensemen.

    Nice start for Louis Leblanc.

    Great ballgame tonight.

    “Wanting is often more pleasurable than having.It is not logical but it is often true.” – Spock

  14. jmsheehy19 says:

    Was Leblanc at wing or center tonight?

  15. PrimeTime says:

    Baseball – WOW!!! The most exciting end ever to a regular season (AL) and then to see tonights dramatic game when TEX had 3 chances to win the WS only for Cards to come back and win…sports drama is alive and well. Fun stuff!!!

  16. showey47 says:

    I wonder if pleky is the first player in nhl history to score on both goalies in the same game?

  17. Un Canadien errant says:

    What is it about the Bruins that brings out the best of the Canadiens. Lately I always fret that we are outclassed against them, they have all the high-draft picks, the size, the pugilistic acumen, that we’re going to get run out of the Gardens. Somehow, the undersized, speedy Canadiens regularly find a way to slay hideous, loathsome Goliath. Tonight was another example, as the tottering heroes entered the Bruins’ lair, avoided a mauling and escaped with a confidence-inflating 2-1 win.

    The game started off slowly, with the Bruins buzzing and hitting. I noticed Jaroslav Spacek in the defensive zone giving Milan Lucic a big cushion instead of checking him tightly, memories of the Beatdown last year possibly still fresh in his mind. This led to a nice pass from Mr. Lucic that wasn’t converted into a goal. I concentrated on Mr. Spacek for the rest of the game, and didn’t see any gaffes or instances where a mild shove from a Bruin caused him to disintegrate. I’ll be darned if a couple of times he didn’t make the right play. I still contend that Alexei Emelin should be in the lineup rather than Mr. Spacek, especially since they are a physical team.

    Also early in the game, I thought Sean Thornton might have found a playmate in counterpart Mike Blunden, but the Canadien laughed him off. Considering Mr. Blunden fight record, that was probably for the best. All in all, he and the other more physical Canadiens forwards such as Mathieu Darche, Erik Cole, Travis Moen and Petteri Nokelainen provided a barrier against the usual egregious Bruins transgressions. We did see Milan Lucic throw a clear punch at Travis Moen after a whistle in the last minutes of the third, a clear punishable offence which should have been penalized, but I guess that is allowable in Boston when the refs want to get out alive.

    Speaking of Bruin thuggery, how did Brad Marchand escape being called for an extra or instigator penalty in his tangles with PK Subban? He started the whole ordeal by putting him in a headlock, then on the second occasion threw a punch. Somehow, everything was handled with offsetting penalties. The Canadiens, short-manned on the blueline, were the clear loser on these exchanges. The fight also provided a clear illustration for those who pined over the summer for the day that PK executes Mr. Marchand that it won’t be that easy. Also, we should take into account that Brendan Shanahan might not look too kindly on homicide. In any case, we saw two little punks who wouldn’t be denied, and I’m glad PK is our punk. As opposed to the rat in black.

    All in all, another good win which should relieve some pressure on Mr. Martin and Mr. Gauthier. It was heartwarming to see Jacques after the Tomas Plekanec goal, his countenance as he scribbled delightedly in his notebook displayed his often-discounted passion for the game. I bet the i’s are dotted with emphasis and the t’s are crossed with a flourish tonight.

    As far as Mr. Gauthier, as the game ended I tried to think of which of his decisions, always much maligned, were vindicated at least until the next game. The decision to let Benoit Pouliot seems inspired. Now if Benoit could only turn into a hybrid of Terrel Owens and Sean Avery, he could cause some turmoil in their dressing room and finally help the Canadiens. The decision to keep Carey Price instead of Jaroslav Halak seems beyond debate. He overpaid for the right player this summer, as Erik Cole more and more seems to find his stride and on the verge of paying dividends.

    I’ve spoken before about how Mr. Gauthier listens to my suggestions, and the decision to reassign Perry Pearn follows suit, since I’ve posted before on how I wanted a former NHL defenceman to be the coach in charge of our defenceman, and for that coach to be behind the bench proffering advice and encouragement to our young crew. My wish was granted tonight as I saw Mr. Ladouceur talking animatedly to his d-men during the Bruins timeout. Mr. Gauthier, if you’re reading this post, aside from disregarding my strong recommendation to sign Shane O’Brien over the summer, thanks for listening.

    How about it NHL? No fighting, just hockey?


    • VancouverHab says:

      I’m interested to hear others’ opinions, but mine is that there is not one team in the league who would play Emelim over Spacek–not in any game that counted. Absolutely not in the playoffs.

      Lead both teams in blocked shots, assisted half our goals, and made simple effective plays shift after shift. Him not going heft-to-heft on Chara is proof of his craft rather than a makr against him. Spacek is too canny to try and match Chara in brawn.

      He got a lot media love as well tonight….

      • Un Canadien errant says:

        My take on Jaroslav Spacek is that he can be effective at times, but he is too weak to play in the NHL. Any bodycheck causes him to fall to the ice. He is also too old to contribute to the future of the team, so instead of wasting his minutes on a stopgap, let’s invest them in our young defencemen, even at the cost of a few losses. We’ll benefit in the future.

        How about it NHL? No fighting, just hockey?


  18. daveho29 says:

    Anybody watching this crazy baseball game?
    Texas 1 strike away from winning the world series, twice.

    St louis wins the game on a homerun in the 11th

  19. C_exacte says:

    Here’s the NESN transcript with Jack Edwards= “Down goes Subban, GET UP!!! Marchand with a BIG right, shades of Boston’s own Marky Mark in the Fighter, throwing him around like a ragdoll. Those royal turncoats will never break the Boston spirit! *camera pan on a grandmother clapping and a Jason masked teen smeared in ketchup holding a ripped Teddy Bear, ironically symbolizing a Canadien?????

  20. JayBee says:

    It’s funny… When we win a couple games…people act like the team “changed” the way they played or played better.

    The team played like they usually do. The difference is Price stood on his head. They were lucky last night along with great goaltending from Price (3 posts)….and tonight Price stood on his head. If Price is OK. Habs get blown out 5-1.

    There are some glaring issues on this team and they’re apparent even when we win.

    I think both should go, but I’d much rather Gauthier go. Team gets creamed when the play gets physical and relies way too much on the goalie.

    Subban and Price will continue to get run at and continue to have to defend themselves. You think Marchand would have the balls he has now if he played in Montreal? Fat frigging chance

    • Shane1313 says:

      Yes, but Price did NOT play just okay. And usually he will NOT play..just okay. Lets not make excuses. The bounces went our way these last two games when the bounces didn’t in the previous games. We played physical and we won, any other problems. In no way are we anywhere close to where we want and could be, but it was a deserving win anyway you put it.

      • JayBee says:

        I didn’t say they didn’t deserve the win. I said, I don’t see a change in their play from the losses to the wins. Same team…

        And wow @ the Rangers epic collapse to the Cards.

        • Habitoba says:

          A team can play the same way one game to the next with only the shot execution changing… that’s how it works sometimes. Good breaks, bad breaks, it’s all part of the game, my friend.

  21. The_Franchise31 says:

    Emelins last fight in the khl he lost, and lost badly. Needed a new face from what I’ve heard so ya I never thought he was a fighter

  22. TOEmastro says:

    Montreal has won 67% of their games after giving up the first goal.

    Olé, olé, olé oleé

  23. Habso says:

    over the top? nah, not for this site, right?

  24. eric says:

    Where are all the bruin hemroids

  25. J.Ambrose.OBrien says:

    A few quick thoughts:

    * the biggest differences in the last two games compared to the previous 8 are the Habs’ forecheck and Carey coming up with the timely big save. Previously, after a turnover, the lads would vacate the offensive zone, and at best send one man in on the forecheck. But this new aggressive two-man forecheck is paying huge dividends. Not sure what the turn-over numbers were, but they must have been in our favour. And Carey is back to making those big saves at key moments. Earlier, he was giving up the backbreakers. Now he is making those pivotal-moment saves that games turn on.

    * Jaro Spacek doesn’t get much love in this vitriol-soaked playground, but I think he has been one of our best d-men since his return. Hal Gill, on the other hand, has not been very good at all. I’m pretty sure he was responsible for the Peverley breakaway when Diaz moved up for a shot on net, and Gill didn’t cover the point.

    * the Habs still struggle getting out of their own end. Their structure and positioning quickly breaks down as soon the opposition pressures them.

    * when Gomez returns, will he agree to being moved to the wing? He may have to. I just don’t see him bumping any of our current centers.

    * and if you have to choose between dressing Weber or Diaz, who do you go with? Weber has the better shot, but Diaz has a terrific gift for joining the rush. Personally, due to his abilities on the PP, I’d go with Weber. Diaz will likely sit when one of the other d-men returns.

    * and Pleks is, IMO, far and away, one of the league’s best two-way forwards. Gionta, however? The little captain had better pick up his game. He is hovering on the border of Gomez territory.

    I remember Dec. 31, 1975

    • J.Ambrose.OBrien says:

      Addendum: PK’s fight made me nostalgic for Tom Kostopoulis.

      I remember Dec. 31, 1975

    • HardHabits says:

      I have been critical of Gionta but he was instrumental on the Plekanec goal. He is making himself relevant since he’s been with Plex and Max.

    • habs178 says:

      I agree about the forecheck. Noticing in the last two games that we were sending in two guys rather than just one, and it totally has paid off.

      “How would you like a job where, every time you make a mistake, a big red light goes on and 18,000 people boo?”
      ~Jacques Plante

  26. The Dude says:

    Missed the game ,watched pvr.fastforward hi-lite’s and last five min. I am very happy but I will tell you Lucic is gonna go nuts in Montreal.You can see it in his eye’s when he scrummed with Moen.I guarantee a Big Bad Booins attack a coming! Go Habs Go!

    • SPATS says:

      I hope Lurcheech gets flattened by a fierce clean check by AK. It’s happened before. That’ll really upset them. Then they’ll play undisciplined in trying to even the score. Marchand is still smarting at the clean hit PK caught him with last Dec…


  27. PrimeTime says:

    Great EDM win!!

  28. CHimbote says:

    What about Emelin ???
    Is he having option to play in JM system ???
    Is he wishing to go home ???

    Go Habss Go !!!

  29. PrimeTime says:

    Bryzgalov…..wow! Will Philly ever get a goaltender?? Weird curse.
    Anyone get the feeling Julien will be sending out the goon show Saturday?? If it doesn’t work, does the 2 points loss put him in the same precarious position that JM is in (maybe past tense now) ??? When was the last time a Starley Cup Champian coach was fired early the following season??? Remember, if they had lost to Habs in last years playoffs he was gone! Goon away Claude….roll the dice!

  30. Both these teams will end up in the playoffs, much to the chagrin of the tanking crowd around here. Great game aside from the running of Subban, which needs to be addressed if it continues Saturday.


    • ProHabs says:

      Wow, so many of us posters have been saying this for so long and you have always been the first to challenge us (rudely I might add). You are finally coming around, it is about time.

      • HardHabits says:

        The rudeness still continues.

        It’s funny how some people can’t refrain from trying to lump everybody into one group or simplify every argument so that it can more easily be lined up for a pot shot.

        When somebody adheres blindly very few people, other than those who are also indoctrinated, care what that person says because the response will always be the same and generally without substance and thus is rendered devoid of meaning.

        It’s when a person can criticize as well as compliment that those ideas and thoughts brought forth have any significance. Open mindedness is the ability to see things from many angles, including the good and bad, even simultaneously.

      • Not coming around to anything. Only saying that against Boston the team should be playing it’s larger players. Emelin drawing in over Diaz would do wonders.


    • hansolo says:

      Andrew, not to be a smart-ass, but how should the team address it? Talk to the refs before the game starts? Or start running at Marchand or Bergeron? My emotions tell me the latter. Is there any point to the former?

      • Have Blunden out with Subban for a few shifts to start the game. Not hard. Just have some pushback.

        The easiest way to address it though is to play another physical guy on the back end, have Emelin play instead of Diaz.


        • vivsterjuve88 says:

          I couldn’t help but notice during many after-the-whistle scrums in a the few of games yemelin was playing, he was the only habs player on the ice without goalie pads staying far away from the crowd. He may just be smartly avoiding potential penalties, but I’d say he hasn’t shown anything in his north american game to suggest he’ll be one to go flying into a mess to back his teammates.

          He plays a physical game in-play but he doesn’t appear to be bruin-goon-fighting material.. which quite frankly I like, winning battles after the whistles doesn’t prove or win anything, as we witnessed tonight. Besides, we’ll need 6 or 7 enforcers on our team before we can bother playing that game, 2 to cover chara alone

          • Scrums are largely irrelevant. What he does between whistles is what I care about.


          • hansolo says:

            Emelin’s no fighter. In fact, he got his face smashed up a few years ago after a fight in the KHL. But I can understand the viewpoint that if you have bigger players like Blunden or Emelin, who don’t mind hitting (perfectly legally, mind you) , then perhaps that might lessen an opponent’s enthusiasm for running your player. (From my obviously quaint and antiquated viewpoint if you stop doing something because you’ll have the same done to you, that means what you were doing before was cowardly). Diaz is not a hitter. Weber hits more than he does. We really need Ryan White back.

        • VancouverHab says:

          JM certainly has the reverse estimation of Emelin & Diaz from you: he had him out after the Boston timeout….

      • HardHabits says:

        Running a player is part of the game.

        However, it worked against the Bruins as the winning goal was scored while Subban was being run.

        The way to address it IMO is to play aggressively as the Habs have played the last two games. The even looked bigger the last two games. They still need some more size IMO but the addition of Blunden and Nokia has accomplished at the very least a bit of that and has given the Habs a 4th line that has some grittiness to it.

        This is not a Cup contender IMO but they’ve gone from being a lottery team to a play-off team, not because of two wins, but because of the style of hockey they are playing as opposed to the one previous to the Pearn firing.

        I am OK with baby steps, as long as they are in the right direction.

  31. Ian Cobb says:

    I picked this team before the season to win our division. We have all the talent necessary to play for the cup this year.

    If the coaching and communication with the players continue to improve. Then I think we still have a slim shot at our division. Long way to go though.

    • ProHabs says:

      Ian, you have in the past here said that PK can fight and take care of himself. I love PK and when he first dropped the mitts, I was thinking PK is going to knock this little rat right out thinking that he could actually fight.

      He is a terrible fighter and admitted as such after the game. Word will get around the NHL very quickly that he can’t fight at all. I would have preferred PK not to have fought The Rat tonight and at least have the believe that he can actually fight.

      • Shane1313 says:

        He can do alright when he fights, he’s just so excited, he gets ahead of himself. Oh Pk, so jokes

      • eric says:

        Thornton was running after he fought Marchand. Did anyone go after thornton. Nilan wouldn’t anyone to go after our best players and that’s why the habs could play their game without intimidation.Having him on the bench was enough

        Fergy and Nilan

  32. HardHabits says:

    The Habs
    – came back after being down by a goal
    – played a robust game
    – played a bigger game than we are accustomed to seeing them play
    – had an aggressive fore-check
    – read Boston’s plays as if each pass was telegraphed
    – used the 4th line effectively and with significance
    – blocked shots

    What impressed me the most and what I especially liked was the aggressive 2 man fore-check coupled with the much better defensive zone coverage. Add to that Habs blocking a ton of shots too and Price playing aggressively.

    Taking it to the other team as opposed to taking it on the chin is a much better style of hockey than having no fore check and always skating back on their heels.

    I think more than just changing Pearn was discussed by the brain trust. Two completely different teams the last two games and everything else we’ve seen. If they keep this up they’ll make the play-offs. If they return to the other way of playing they’ll miss them.

    Even in view of this, and of course IMO, the Habs can still use more robustesse in the line-up, however the shift in playing pattern the last two games (not just the winning) is promising.

    • K-hab25 says:

      You know HH, you’re the King of the “flip, flop”, but you’re still one of my favorite poster’s. You’re very intelligent and emotional. The emotional part leads you to say things like “tank”, but the intelligent part jumps in and says “we’re just a big center and big physical D away from contention”. I have been coming here since 2005, 3rd name ( kjdavid & KJD ) , loved yeats, jt, robert l, chris, tommy b, 24 cups, Ian, Smart Dog, Doug, Showey, nightmare 49 and of course my favorite ( and everyone’s) Timo. My point is, like the others listed, you’re opinion, isn’t always the same as mine, but is intelligent and respected. Well by me anyway!! Cheers my friends!!

  33. Ian Cobb says:

    At this level of hockey, a team must be prepared to play the game professionally.
    The final straw for Pearn was being watched by Gainey and Gauthier up in the box, when they saw a very confused young defense jumping on and off the ice at the bench causing three penalties for having to many players on the ice and a lot of turmoil. And that was just the ones that the refs caught. Very poor communication with a very young defense. The move had to be made.

    Tonight we took far to many undisciplined penalties, and iced the puck far to much, nearly costing us the game often. Thank Gawd for Price again.

    If we can keep playing and improving over the next while, Martin might be able to keep his job. As long as he can allow input from Cunnyworth and Ladouceur.

    It is going to be another fun game Saturday night.

    • HardHabits says:

      Ian. This was a game like we used to see in the 80’s minus the blood. Very exciting with few stoppages.

      You are correct IMO that Pearn was singled out for the defensive lapses. But you contradict yourself. Martin obviously allows input otherwise we wouldn’t have seen such a turn around with the mere replacing of the defense/specialty teams coach.

      My question is. Who is responsible for the new aggressive fore-checking and attacking philosophy?

      Like is said. I suspect more was discussed upstairs.

      • SPATS says:

        I read somewhere that PG has offered Pearn a different job within the organization hence the silly comments from PG yesterday. Looks to me like Ladouceur was brought down to bring more emotion behind the bench (replacing Capt Kirk)
        as Cunneyworth and Pearn look like Vulcans back there bookending a droid. Whatever, they look good for it. Keep it up boys, men, aliens, and robots!

  34. Curtis O Habs says:

    Eat that Boston. Eat it. And you better like the way it tastes. BEEYATCHH!

  35. crazyhabsfan says:

    Louis Leblanc show in the A tonight! What a freakin beauty in OT!!

    The real losers are schmucks like us who invest so much emotional energy into this team of easily-satisfied millionaires. – Gumper

  36. Shane1313 says:

    Feel good about this win. Ah

  37. HABSIN09 says:

    Wow! Does Bryzgalov ever sound defeated. Not good for the team that traded their best players to make cap space for him. Was a good game tonight though for the Habs. I missed the first, but they are a hard team to beat when they’re on. Looks like our friend Carey was shakey handling the puck tonight though.

    • hansolo says:

      Yep, perhaps they shouldn’t have made him available to the media. At least he took responsibility and didn’t blame his team-mates, even thought the reporters practically invited him to. Saying he didn’t know what to do might have been honest but unwise. A stiff upper lip and a promise to work on things with his goaltending coach might help restore his team-mates confidence in him.

  38. HabFanSince72 says:

    Ilya Bryzgalov.

    2011-2012 salary: $10M
    Signed until 2020.

    GAA: 3.45
    Save %: 0.870

  39. EricInStL says:

    Good on them, they played with guts and didn’t back down.

    If they keep this up, they will surely make the playoffs.

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