About last night …

How’s this for a dry spell:

The Canadiens have not scored a goal in a Conference final since May 24, 1993  – five days after Michael Leighton’s 12th birthday.

And the last goaltender to shut them out in consecutive playoff games was Buffalo’s Robert Sauvé in 1983.

They say you’re not in trouble until you’ve lost a playoff game on home ice.

If the Canadiens can play Game 3 at the Bell Centre as well as they played through 40 minutes of Game 2, trouble may yet be avoided.

But crank up the new Histoiry Will be Made segment, the punch line of which is:

What if Brian Boucher hadn’t been injured?

Great line from DownGoesBrown:

“The Montreal Canadiens: Putting the 0 in Olé-Olé”.

He also points out the Canadiens are 3-8 in games when they’re not facing elimination.

The Canadiens won’t be facing a long summer Thursday night at the Bell Centre.

But it’s a must-win, because this team is not capable of doing to Philadelphia what the Flyers did to Boston.

At that, it’s difficult to imagine the Canadiens winning four of the next five.

Oh, and BTW: Philadelphia is 16-0 in series the Flyers lead 2-0.

 

 

 

So what is to be done?

Don Cherry says the Canadiens are making it easy for Michael Leighton. And he’s right.

The Flyers ciuld have put up a highway cone with a warning sign: “Slot closed to visitors”.

But who, on this roster, is going to make Leighton’s life difficult?

Andrei Kostitsyn?

Who was prime minister the last time AK46 scored a goal in the dirty zone?

Maybe Brian Gionta, with Chris Pronger hanging on his back?

Travis Moen? Size … but hands of stone.

The Canadiens started Game 2 well. They had a 16-6 shot advantage and three power plays in the first period. Leighton had to make good saves on Mike Cammalleri during a PP in which the Canadiens had the same players on for the full two minutes.

He’s a career scubeeny, but Leighton is a big galoot who gives the Flyers a lot of net coverage.

And like most NHL goaltenders, he stops the ones he can see.

Philadelphia is administering a very strong and bitter dose pof the medicine they Canadiens dished up to the Capitals and Flyers: great goaltending and, with only a couple exceptions, dominant special teams.

Until garbage time in the third period, the Canadiens outplayed the Flyers 5-on-5. They had territorial and shot advantages.

But Philadelphia was opportunistic. 

It took red-hot Daniel Brière all of 14 seconds to get the Flyers on the board with Scott Gomez – one goal and 25 P{iM in the playoffs – in the box.

On L’Antichambre, Gaston Therrien showed how three Canadiens PK guys – Josh Gorges, who was making the right play, Moen and Tom Pyatt, who weren’t – overplayed Claude Giroux at the blueline, leaving Hal Gill alone and badly overmatched when Giroux found Brière.

I thought Jaro dropped down too soon and showed a sniper too much of the net on that goal.

And he was brutal on Ville Leino’s rising wrister, which ticked in off his glove.

When this series began, Jaro was odds-on for the Conn Smythe Trophy.

Not so fast. Jaro has given up seven goals on 37 shots, and some fans will spend the off-day lobbying for Carey Price to start Game 3.

Forget it.

This team would have been on the golf course a month ago if Jaro Halak hadn’t carried them through two miraculous playoff rounds.

I don’t know what other moves Jacques Martin can make to shake his team up for Game 3.

The Sergei Kostitsyn hunch was a bust: eight shifts, 4:57.

Ryan O’Byrne for muscle?

These aren’t your father’s Flyers. Philadelphia plays tough; but under Peter Laviolette, they also play smart.

The Canadiens were not run out of the Wachovia Center.

And Scott Gomez is taking more dumb penalties than Daniel Carcillo.

•  •  •

A math problem, if only to distract the Halakites and Priceians:

If Nicklas Backstrom is getting $67 million over 10 years, how much is Tomas Plekanec worth?

•  •  •

Chris Pronger played 28:11.

That’s almost half the game during which Canadiens forwards have to be aware there’s a guy out there who, given half a chance, will put a SERIOUS hurtin’ on them.

That apprehension is not something they felt with Mike Green or Sergei Gonchar.

That’s how Pronger is a game-changer and, with all due respect to Duncan Keith, the best defenceman still alive in the playoffs.

 

247 Comments

  1. Chris says:

    I dislike Gomez more than the average bear, but come on…Gomez’s 1 goal and 11 points for $7.3 million is not exactly that much worse than Heatley putting up 2 goals and 12 points for $7.5 million.

    When Heatley isn’t scoring, he is probably the most invisible player in the history of hockey.  He absolutely does nothing out there.  When he is scoring, he still does very little for the entire game until he pops open with that great shot of his for a goal, and then fades back into doing nothing.

    With his size and skills he SHOULD dominate.  But he definitely hasn’t done so in a long, long time.

  2. Chris says:

    What’s killing me in this series is the speed disparity thus far.  I don’t think anybody can objectively argue that the Flyers are more physical:  they hit more frequently and with malice.

    But the advantage our top forwards are supposed to have, speed, appears to be non-existent.  Watching the game last night, Gomez was the only Habs forward that appeared to have any separation gear, and he was playing too individually.

    Maybe they are just gassed, but Plekanec, Cammalleri, Gionta, the Kostitsyns, Moore and Lapierre all watched, at various times of the game, guys like van Riemsdyk, Hartnell, Briere, Richards and Gagne simply pull away from them skating from end to end.

    As Boone says, these aren’t our parents’ Philadelphia Flyers:  these guys can play.  Size, speed, physical play and a knack for shooting high (that seemed to desert the offensive superstars of the Penguins and Capitals) has burned the Habs thus far.

    Martin has definitely got some adjustments to make, starting with not having the forwards skate right into that three player wide wall the Flyers are forming at their blueline on entry to the zone.

    As for Plekanec’s value, he has pretty clearly run out of gas in the playoffs again, so that could hurt him. I don’t see him signing a 10-year deal, and on a 3-4 year deal SOMEBODY is probably going to offer him $4-5 million per this summer. So what he is worth and what he is going to get are, as has always been the case with UFA’s, very different numbers.

  3. habs001 says:

    to beat the habs is not that difficult…you stop camm and gion and you are pretty sure you are not giving up more than one goal a game…and to only way you lose a series to the habs is that you do not care about camm and gion and the habs get unbelievable goaltending and your goalie gives a 5-6 bad/flukey goals…we have too many forwards that need tons of scoring chances before they score as they lack any finish

  4. G-Man says:

    It’s not over yet, Rob. Let’s enjoy the next 2 at home. Habs have had no puck luck at all in Philly. That may change on home ice.

    The team isn’t too small. It’s just not going in right now, so give the Flyers some credit. :)

  5. Clay4bc says:

    MAB must have incriminating pictures of JM, PG and a (insert strange fetish object here ie. goat, duck) in order to still be in the line-up. If SK can be benched for a few bad shifts, and OB can be benched for who knows what (played great his last game!), then why is MAB still here? He does nothing on the PP anymore, and his defensive coverage is pathetic – not to mention his giveaways.

    And with all due respect to those calling for Price…who gives a sh!t how Halak plays if we can’t
    even score a goal? Even if he lets in one, we lose. Too much to expect
    from a goalie. Our TEAM needs to start playing playoff hockey.
    Clear the crease. Go to the opposition net. Go into the corners and dig.

    Win battles. Fight for the puck (and win). These are the areas where we are lacking.

    As
    for Price – he gets no starts, period. Halak’s the main reason we are here.
    When Price has a run like Halak has had in these playoffs, we can talk
    about him getting a start.

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  6. Clay4bc says:

    While I generally agree with you, I just don’t know how we can add more players when we are so close to the cap.

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  7. nightmare_49 says:

        Under-the-Radar Leighton and Leino Carry Flyers to Game 2 Win

        by Chris Botta / NHL FanHouse

        http://nhl.fanhouse.com/2010/05/18/under-the-radar-leighton-and-leino-carry-flyers-to-game-2-win/

  8. nightmare_49 says:

        Zero Tolerance

        By Sam Carchidi

       

  9. SeriousFan09 says:

    Under 6′ and he’s got back problems, not crazy about the idea. We need to add some bulk up front.

     

    - I shall always remember Captain Koivu.
    http://habsandhockey.blogspot.com/

  10. Habitant out West says:

    Acquiring Hall would be amazing. How about Cody Hodgson? Vancouver is deep at centre and in need of some young defense.

  11. ManApart says:

    Only saw it quickly, once, But looked pretty deliberate to me. Have to see it again, but it looks like it deserved 1 game. If he broke something on the Blackhawk player, then 3 or 4.

  12. kempie says:

    Unfortunately, I don’t think a trade is possible at this point. Either we sign him for at least 4-5 years or someone else does.

  13. Habitant in Surrey says:

    …according to CBC …Guy Boucher …One of three remaining in the run for coach of the Columbus Blue Jackets

    Habitant means PASSIONATE HOCKEY

    http://www.nationalpost.com/news/story.html?id=423049

  14. FSUPhi1584 says:

    Well, I said before the series that we would have to limit penalties committed and be effective on the power play to be successful. Not a revelation, I know, but this was a conclusion I came to from reviewing stats from previous games. Our PP and PK, which are normally good, have been lacking against the Flyers all season.

    Taking stupid penalties like the one Gionta committed doesn’t help.

  15. Xtrahabsfan says:

    And Boogaard!

  16. Habitant in Surrey says:

    …earlier tonight I commented to Hard Habits We trade the 2 Ks and BOTH Price & Halak for Edmonton’s # 1

    …IF necessary I would likely add Our 1st Round 2010 (MAYBE 2011 IF the Oilspillz were squeezing My nutz)

    …We are dying for an elite-level BULL like a Taylor Hall to be the Viagra for Our Team …We already have a lot of good speed, talent and character to compliment Him, and more coming

    …I have not seen Tyler Seguin play, and I KNOW We are also dying for a True Stud at centre, but from what I have seen from Hall, He is The Guy whom would take Our Team to another level

    …I think Our D will be younger, bigger, tougher and more over-all mobile next season, that We can live with a Desjardins or other until better comes along

    Habitant means PASSIONATE HOCKEY

    http://www.nationalpost.com/news/story.html?id=423049

  17. Habitant in Surrey says:

    …THIS version of the Visigoths are not goons, just tough hard-balled Canadian-style hockey players

    …but Your point of experimenting with an o’Byrne, Mara or Gill to stand-still in front of Leighten on the PP IS something I would at least try

    …just WHAT has MAB provided offensively or on Our Power Play since Gawd Knows When ? …I mean Pearn, Muller and Martin knows infinitely more about o’ Byrne than I …YET, unless He is back to stealing women’s purses in His off hours, I rationally can not understand WHY Bergeron is on the ice in place of o’ B

    …and talking about rationalism ? …deleting Pouli-O (even though His play SUCKS) and adding SK, AND not compensating by adding OB against a physical but skilled team like the Flyers is mind-numbing

    …My Philosophy In Life is Fight Fire With Fire when necessary …and it IS necessary IMO with these PhilthyBoyz

    Habitant means PASSIONATE HOCKEY

    http://www.nationalpost.com/news/story.html?id=423049

  18. Habitant in Surrey says:

    …I agree

    Habitant means PASSIONATE HOCKEY

    http://www.nationalpost.com/news/story.html?id=423049

  19. Habitant in Surrey says:

    …I agree

    Habitant means PASSIONATE HOCKEY

    http://www.nationalpost.com/news/story.html?id=423049

  20. Rob D says:

    Hey, its been a hell of a ride..they overachieved and showed more heart/desire/never quit attitude than any recent Habs team I have seen recently. Let’s appreciate that. But if the run is over (and I think it is, although I will be cheering them on and pulling what hair I have left on my pointy little head right to the end) It’s really shown us what we have and what we don’t have as a contending team.

    This is the kind of team I wanted to see. The fact that they will probably go down to defeat will only hurt for a short time. They have a chance to build on this run, add some more players and have another good draft like last years. I’m optimistic about the future of this team and that’s a 180 from where I was at the end of the regular season.

    Let’s not bury each other with recriminations. This team is just too small and Halak is running out of pixie dust. He’s probably exhausted, given his small size and the mental pressure of having to allow no more than 2 goals most nights. I bet they make us all proud before the end of this series though. They have no quit in them and I think Game 3 will prove it.

     

     

  21. SPATS says:

    How this for an adjustment, maybe for game 4 if we’re 3 down… Put OByrne or PK or hell, even Hall Gill up front like Chi is doing with Bugfling? What do we have to lose? If MAB is good enough to play a regular shift on D, A case could easily be made that any of the above are big (and tuff) enuff for playing the screen… and surely none of them could be any worse than SK or Metro???? At this point it’s worth a try. If only for a couple of shifts. Try one of em on the 3rd line with Moore and Lappy. Put SK and MAB upstairs. Rotate them in and out on D and up front. We need size and fearless types to beat these goons. Fight Flyer with Fire…

  22. Xtrahabsfan says:

    Save the old dudes for Taylor Hall !

  23. HabsFanInVictoria says:

    Anything can happen in the playoffs… yesterdays heroes are todays goats. 

    One thing is certain, we’re still on borrowed time in this playoffs.  The only difference is, after winning two series, we feel like we have something to lose now.  Guess what, Philly entered this series on borrowed time and felt like they had nothing to lose after their miraculous comeback.  

    2 wins at home has them feeling pretty good. If the Habs win game 3, it will put some doubt in their minds, and make them feel like they have something to lose.  

    Win game 3, and they can win the whole thing.

  24. FSUPhi1584 says:

    Things have been going pretty bad so far, but at least we’re not the Sharks losing 2 games at home to open a series.

  25. Habitant in Surrey says:

    …if Claude Provost or even Guy Carbonneau was playing today ? …in the era of The Salary Cap ? …WHAT would You pay Them ?

    Habitant means PASSIONATE HOCKEY

    http://www.nationalpost.com/news/story.html?id=423049

  26. FSUPhi1584 says:

    I feel like MAB’s been hesitant to shoot. I think we should consider using an umbrella with Subban up top, MAB to the right and Gionta to the left, and Gomez and Metro down low, with Metro crashing the net and Gomez dishing the puck.

  27. Harditya_CareyPrice says:

    You don’t even need to ask. Heatley fo’ sho’!

    Solid 40 goal scorer.

  28. FSUPhi1584 says:

    We’ll get our lucky breaks and bounces at some point in this series. I hope they don’t all come in one game.

  29. FSUPhi1584 says:

    Tomas Holmstrom is a UFA at the end of the season. He could make our PP the best in the league with his crease presence. At his age he wouldn’t be worth too much. If we want another old guy, how about a pitch to Guerin (RH shot) who will be a UFA as well?

  30. Habitant in Surrey says:

    …very surprised King Bhumibol has been quiet and not speaking up …Is he still in hospital ?

    …the poor from the North and South are being manipulated by Thaksin Thaniwatra financing this outside the country …the poor certainly have reason to feel they have no voice in Thailand’s democracy …but the ‘elite’ including the King know Thaksin is as corrupt as themselves

    …sad, because this degree of violence is not the Thai-way except in the Muslim south on the Malaysian border

    Habitant means PASSIONATE HOCKEY

    http://www.nationalpost.com/news/story.html?id=423049

  31. ManApart says:

    Wow, did you guys see Chicago going to the net on their goals? Now that’s how you score in the playoffs. Byfuglien in front is just crazy. The Habs equal? Gionta. Says it all. I actually feel a little better now, because Montreal has no chance against Chicago. That team is not only awesome with the most depth in the league, but is exactly the type of team Montreal can’t handle. Under the spotlight of the Finals, they would smoke the Habs 4 straight and like 5-0 every game.

  32. ManApart says:

    Are you serious? I’d trade Gomez for Heatly in a microsecond. The guy is one of the top goalscorers in the game and has been for 10 years. People can say what they want about him. He’s Cammy, but bigger and better. Imagine him with Pleks and Cammy? Gomez can’t impact a game like Heatly can. Gomez has 1 goal all playoffs. 11 points, which is also not up to par for a 7.3 million, first line center in 16 games, who takes bad penalties and isn’t so strong in his own end as of late.

  33. EricInStL says:

    Would you suspend Big Joke for his slash against Bolland ?

    In Guy Boucher I trust.

  34. EricInStL says:

    Yeah with Seguin as their next #1 center. They will be a handfull + they get next year’s #1 from Toronto again !!!!!

    Aurghhhh

    In Guy Boucher I trust.

  35. Xtrahabsfan says:

    Taylor Hall is a fu*kin GREAT ADDITION……not going to happen,lol

  36. HardHabits says:

    Nobody’s that stupid. Watch for Boston in a few years. This playoff run has been a fluke. 0 goals in 2 games.

  37. habs4ever2894 says:

    Those would be awesome pickups. I still remember Artyukin destroying tanguay last season causing him to be injured and from what i saw in the Phoenix playoff series Pyatt can be a nice player to have in front of the net on the PP. He is also tommy pyatts brother so that would be cool. Artyukin has the size and speed of AK but not the hands and he hits way more.

  38. Xtrahabsfan says:

    I think Pouloit sitting and watching was the best thing to happen to him(help him figure sheit out) and he should play  cus SK  LOOKS LIKE A C.H. FLAG BOY out there and Obyrine has to play and clear the net……Sit MAB,sit S.Kiddy and Try a NEW SYSTEM !

  39. EricInStL says:

    We need Taylor Hall, so let’s call Tambellini and offer him the following:

    2 K brothers, Price or Halak, Gomez + our #1 this year and our #1 next year.

    Get a gifted offensive player + cap room……

    I know it’s late.. but

     

  40. Mr. Biter says:

     I wondered what became of you after the habs won and you disappeared  and I was waiting to debate you. However I sadly have to agree with your post.

  41. Beaco says:

    I’ve been saying the same thing, at least as far as Pyatt. Big guy with a little touch and likely affordable

     

  42. Xtrahabsfan says:

    We need Taylor Pyatt and Artukin aquired in the off season,PERIOD!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  43. EricInStL says:

    Who would you rather be stuck with Gomez or Heathly ?

    In Guy Boucher I trust.

  44. J. Ambrose says:

    True enough, but numerous times, our attack was blunted by a MAB muff. He makes passes to players who aren’t there, or fails to hold the puck in at the line and ends up chasing a puck-carrier going the other way.

  45. HardHabits says:

    Gettng their noses dirty would mean getting their azzes handed back to them.

  46. ManApart says:

    There is nothing JM can do to change the situation. It’s the players who have got the team here that have to find a way to get it done. Bringing in O’Byrne in place of MAB will be just as effective as SK74 replacing Pouliot. Changing the 6th dman and 4th line guy is the wrong place to put energy.It will make no tangible difference. it’s the main guys who have to adjust and make it happen. Top 3 lines and top 4 D have to find a way to score. The Habs had absolutely no chance to win the last 2 games because they got 0 goals. The focus has to be getting pucks to the net with traffic and finding second chances. Halak and the defensive part of the game will be OK. The team must find a way to score, and more than one time. To get 0 goals so far during this semi final is just unacceptable. If that’s the best they can do, then just go home now. Leave Halak in goal alone to make it official. The result would be the same, a loss and a shutout by the Flyers. The main guys have to dig deeper and get their noses dirty. If they don’t, well……..then they don’t deserve a damn thing.

  47. HardHabits says:

    Gomez is worth more than Plex but not as much as Gomez.

  48. CHsam says:

    Its a catch 22 with MAB. He’s playing sh*t-scared out of his mind against the FLyers. That fear spreads through the team and even affects Subban. But then the moment he’s benched, JM feels like he needs his glorious “outlet passes” and PP shot. JOKES.

     

  49. J. Ambrose says:

    So you are conveniently overlooking his brilliant defensive play in the last two series? Helping to shut down Crosby and Ovie? He’s been worth a hell of a lot more than Gomez.

  50. J. Ambrose says:

    Might be time to sit MAB

    Ya think?!!! The best shot from the point came from Subban. And that set-play of trying to get the penalty killers out of position for a magical blast from the point simply doesn’t work against a well-disciplined squad like the Flyers. And guys like Pronger take away the cross-ice, face-off circle to face-off circle passes. They are doing to us exactly what we did to the Caps and Pens. The only way to beat that is to get bodies to the net and occupy the d-men, and then shift the box to open the slots. Right now, we look like predictable automatons.

  51. EricInStL says:

    my thing is that we don’t have enough cap space to over spend…..We cannot win a bidding war. Also our goalies will require a major salary increase.

    Between a rock and a hard place.

    In Guy Boucher I trust.

  52. TripleX says:

    Easy to say dump Pleks.  Who replaces him Moore?  LOL   If not Moore who and how much will it cost?

     

    “Good judgement comes from experience, and experience comes from bad judgement.”

  53. Gus says:

    The PP is way too predictable lately – all the pucks being funnelled to MAB, who is frankly doing nothing the last few weeks.  Might be time to sit MAB and play 4 forwards on the PP – maybe Cammi or Gionta on the point – someone that can let a good shot through…  Keep PK, Spacek and Hammer on the points as well.  Put a big body directly in front (Moen and… ???).

  54. Habitant in Surrey says:

    …unless Pleks pops out of His Hab uniform into a Superman cape in what is remaining of these Playoffs  …He ain’t worth no more than $ 40 mil over 10 …MAXIMUM

    …a Player establishes His Real-value primarily in the Heat Of The Playoffs …only-secondly during the Regular Season

    Habitant means PASSIONATE HOCKEY

    http://www.nationalpost.com/news/story.html?id=423049

  55. EricInStL says:

    What is Pleks worth ???? I don’t know how much do you pay a guy who is much smaller than most elite centerman ? Basically if someone wants to pay him more than 3 million. then adios and good luck.

    Our secondary scoring is non existant. Without that you cannot go far.

    In Guy Boucher I trust.

  56. Bob Barker says:

    I’m pretty sure he wants to finish his degree before turning pro. 

  57. bigdave says:

    It moved down the street, we had a front row for the fire bombing of channel 3 and the Bangkok Bank on soi 26.

    Subsequent rescues by chopper from the roof of Channel 3 building.

    Hopefully the power will stay on for game 3 both here and in the Bell Center in a more figurative sense.

    Patpong has been almost shut down for nearly a month! That’s serious here!

    BTW the Dusit Thani was evacuated Monday after being hit by 3 each RPG’s ( so much for the notion of down-trodden poor and farmers in the scumbags’ ranks).

     

     

     

    “The Allo Police Media – a collection of bitter ex-coaches, players and wannabees whose collective lack of success accounts for their present positions in Sports’ equivalent of a Jerry Springer Show”

  58. ed lopaz says:

    Habs hockey = Smart hockey we work as a team, and we win as a team. we play 5 man defence – not just 2.

    Louis Leblanc will play 1 more year in Harvard and then win a spot on the Habs roster.

    I hope!

    I have seen him play quite often.

    He will play at about 195 lbs as a fully grown NHL player, but he plays NASTY!!

    Check out his penalty minutes at every level. there’s a lot of roughing, elbowing, high sticking crap in there. there’s no clutch and grab in his game- he’s got the wheels and he moves his feet as well as anyone.

    ITS ABOUT BEING NASTY!!!

    That’s what this team needs- a LARGE DOSE OF NASTINESS!!

    That’s what I kept saying all year long.

    that’s precisely what we need – you don’t have to be 215 , you have to play like you’re big.

     

     

  59. Habitant in Surrey says:

    …I hear most of the action is in the park across from the Dusit Thani Hotel …where I lived for awhile

    …I’m surprised the Patpong girls haven’t got involved yet …must be putting a dent in ‘business’

    …by the way, The Dusit’s old GM was a passionate Habs’ Fan

    Habitant means PASSIONATE HOCKEY

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  60. Chris says:

    They do, but such a creature does not exist on the free agent market this summer.  Nor are those types of players available via trades.

    And unless Louis Leblanc packs on some serious muscle and accelerates his development rapidly, there are none in the system for the next 2-3 years either.  Big, scoring centers don’t come cheap.

  61. danedmunds says:

    then so long pleks! thanks for all the hard work.. come back when you grow 4 inches and gain 20 pounds because habs need a big man that can score

  62. danedmunds says:

    i think you can also add that phillys D can manhandle hab forwards so that it is impossible to get in the slot for shots or rebounds. my prediction that the habs wont even get a goal is holding form. and i was kidding!

  63. K-hab25 says:

    So are WAS’s and PIT’s, I guess Halak needs to start scoring goals again. I mean guys like you and boytogether have been preaching how he’s the “ONLY REASON” we were winning. So using that logic, he’s the “ONLY REASON” we’re losing then, right. I mean who needs goal scoring, clutch defense and blocked shots, when you can have Super Jaro, who can do it all by himself.

  64. SeriousFan09 says:

    Prettty much comes down to signing Pleks, but with a Conference Finals appearance, I’m betting he feels more confident about having good success in Montreal on a team he knows than signing with one of the desperation squads that missed out on the playoffs and are now desperate to acquire some talent. None of the other centres available are real improvements, reliable or affordable and sometimes all 3 at once.

    Andreas Engqvist may be a future guy for Montreal, if the Canadiens can get him over here, a good two-way guy who understands the importance of net prescence. Could be a Holmstrom/Knuble type for Montreal but can’t start him off Top 6 right away of course.

     

    - I shall always remember Captain Koivu.
    http://habsandhockey.blogspot.com/

  65. ed lopaz says:

    agreed – it is not an easy one – plekanec is a very good player – and a very valuable player.

    I think a trade could be in order – we have assets to move.

     

  66. ed lopaz says:

    sorry buddy – you wasted some good energy – and you’re obviously a smart guy – but the Habs have 1 starting goalie, and the only place where Price is still considered an option for Thursday is here at HIO.

    the only games the Habs have won for about 2 months now have come when Halak has stood on his head.

    the Habs have 8 wins in these playoffs, and halak has been given the #1 star 6 times.

    the only “ph balance” in this situation starts and ends with Halak finding his game against Philly.

    there is not a coach alive or dead that would gamble the entire season on his back up goalie.

    as i said below. this is a mute point.

  67. 24 Cups says:

    Ed – #4 is a bit of a dilemma for the Habs.  The only other UFA centres available are: Marleau, Jokinen, Koivu, Lombardi and Morrison.  We can’t afford what Marleau is going to sign for and there are cautionary flags all around Jokinen.  Koivu isn’t coming back and Morrison isn’t young enough to consider as a replacement.  I’ll take Pleks (at more coin) over Lombardi any day of the week.  Not to mention that there are a few other teams (Minnesota and Toronto) who are desperate for centres. 

    We’re not holding a lot of cards here.  The only other option would be a trade which would then bring some of our other assets into play.  What about the kids in Hamilton?  They really don’t address our main need and would probably require a few years to break into the NHL and develop.  Having one of those guys at the #2 spot means you won’t be contending for the Cup during the next few years. 

    Unless there is a very creative solution, I think we need to sign Pleks.

  68. bigdave says:

    King is still in hospital but he was never a Toxin Shinawatra fan. He even called in Toxin twice while he was PM to take him to task for his handling of the issues in the south.

    Toxin was paying the folks daily to participate in this so called “Rally”, but he also was paying the notorious general Seh Daeng the amount of 1 Million Baht per day ( this amount was a quote from Seh Daeng) to run these militias within the Red Shirts.

    As far as being the poor farmers etc not to many farmers have M79 grenade launchers, AK33 assault rifles and RPG’s in the barn at home particularly in a country where possession of a “war weapon” will result in a death sentence.

    I just saw that the Red shirt leadership have been charged with terrorism including Toxin! There surely will be some interesting “singing” done by this group to avoid the firing squad!

    I am looking out at the city at the moment( 00:30) and it is nearly as quiet as I ever have seen it due to the curfew, no traffic whatsoever!

    I hope the Canadiens can get their game together Thursday.

     

     

    “The Allo Police Media – a collection of bitter ex-coaches, players and wannabees whose collective lack of success accounts for their present positions in Sports’ equivalent of a Jerry Springer Show”

  69. habfab14120 says:

    some fans will spend the off-day lobbying for Carey Price to start Game 3.

    OK, I’ll bite.  Not being Pro-Price or an Anti-Halite, I am just a Hab fan.
    All season long neither goalie made a good run at being #1.
    Halak has now and, Mike, you are correct in the follow-up when you state that Jaro has gotten us this far.

    That said, it was very obvious that the Flyers were waiting for him to commit to the butterfly and then going upstairs.  He looked awful on the third goal.  Were he a d-man, he might have been called a pylon there.

    It is also stated in ALN that M.F. Leighton is a big goalie who is not being screened.  Carey is also a big goalie and even in the butterfly, he covers much of the net.

    Maybe Jaro needs a breather.  Remember when he first came up and won 4 straight only to turn around and lose the next four?  Is that where we are at now in a time when we cannot afford to lose four at all (let alone in a row).  

    Most things in life require a proper pH balance, maybe for the Habs that pH stands for Price-Halak.  To the Pricians I say, “Do not be so quick to ridicule Jaro for the past couple of games.”  To the Halakites I say, “You have now experienced what so often happened to Carey.  Do not be so quick with the ‘Halak just wins.  The team doesn’t score for Carey because they do not trust him.’ comments.”

    I expect a great game on Thursday regardless of who is in net for us.  GO HABS.

    Oh, and let’s do something in Game 5 when we’re even at 2 games each and shut up those obnoxious Flyer fans.

  70. ed lopaz says:

    Habs hockey = Smart hockey we work as a team, and we win as a team. we play 5 man defence – not just 2.

    1) Halak starts Thursday and he will get the biggest ovation of all the Habs – don’t forget Habs have not played at home since game 6 vs Pitt. – Thursday is a tribute to Halak – he got us there and he starts.

    any price GM wannabees that want to put there money where their mouth is on this one? I take ALL the ACTION!!

    2) Our penalty kill and Power play are terrible – that needs to get better fast or we’re history.

    3) we need 3 players to pick it up considerably: Moen, Lapierre, Big Tits – if these guys don’t go hard to the net we have no one who will.

    4) I would NOT sign Plekanecs – the team needs a talented, bigger center, and we CAN NOT play 4 more years with Gomez and Plekanec – no way, no how.

  71. bigdave says:

    Wow its been a very interesting day here in Bangkok with all the goings on and a front row seat!

    But I missed the game this morning due to no electricity!

    From what I have read it is so disappointing that the regular season Canadiens have mysteriously reappeared vs Boone’s Goons!

     

    “The Allo Police Media – a collection of bitter ex-coaches, players and wannabees whose collective lack of success accounts for their present positions in Sports’ equivalent of a Jerry Springer Show”

  72. StevieRay says:

    I’m detecting evidance of alcohol in your statment !

  73. 24 Cups says:

    Simply stated, Philadelphia’s top six forwards are superior to our top six forwards.  End of story.

  74. StevieRay says:

    Claude Provost… now your’re talking !!!! Don’t forget Marcel Bonin !!..those were the days .. no milk fed prima donas like we have on the team today ….

  75. badbalance says:

    If we had Kovy, I personally think, at this point in the playoffs, he can shine. I wish we had him, his size and skill woulda helped a lot. I think, if anyone could break Leighton’s bubble, it would be Kovy, too bad we don’t have him.

  76. _Habsoloutly_ says:

    Ya, it’s amazing what he’s done for Ottawa in the playoffs.

  77. HAB-PROFESSOR says:

    I PUT ALL THE BLAME ON J.MARTIN.

    you needn’t look further than his lineup choice for game #1…the same lineup that beat PITTS in game #7…WRONG, Philly isn’t Pitts!!!… many on here were calling for the obvious, which any 10yearold with half a brain could tell you was putting MAB onto the 4th and bringing in OBRYNE AT THE LEAST!!!!…but not MARTIN. So we get killed and MAB is a big reason why… no problem, game #2 for corrections, but what does MARTIN do? takes out one of our few over 6’2″ who can Hit and Shoot, and inserts some little brat nerd kid that shys away from hits, turns in the corners and really makes me sick with his “i’m too good for this”, look on his face….and still no OBRYNE.

    if we go down and out to this cheesestakesgoonerywhinerssubpar disrespecting lot,  I will put all the blame on J.F.Martin….WAKEUP!

    the slug living in a gutter ditch under a bridge knows that MAB needs to be nailed to the rafters, SERGIE kicked onto a plane, Pouli re-inserted, OBRYNE IN oN DEFENSE HITTING… PAX called up, NIELSON called up, WAKE THE HE()*^(*_&OL UP BEFORE ITS TOO LATE.

    1:The N.A.G. (North American Grit) Youth Movement will bring us respect. 2:The NHL-Ref-Syndicate will do everything in its power to never allow the HABS to win another Stanley Cup. 3:Take it easy on the boys, they are going 110%

  78. Tis Himself says:

    I don’t know if it’s you or the Belgian ales I’ve been drinking, but one of you is making a whole lotta sense!

  79. StevieRay says:

    gomez = perimeter player !! = laughing all the way to Alaska … stay there …. I thought he was learning French at the start of the year..has anyone heard him parlay a bit ????.

  80. Chuck says:

    True; it’s not just the goaltending that needs to be scrutinized in an 0-2 situation; it’s stuff like Bergeron playing defense.

    I understand that JM wants him in the lineup for his point shot, but so far this series he has a whopping 3 SOG. I’m guessing that his defensive liabilities far outweigh what those 3 shots have been worth.

    Want him in the lineup for the powerplay? Fine… hide him on the 4th line where he’d only see spot duty anyway. Let him play the point on the powerplay plus a shif or two per period.

    Get O’Byrne back on the blueline. He might not be a gamebreaker, but at least he’s a better defenseman than Bergeron.

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  81. ManApart says:

    I hated the Gomez acquisition from day one. There was just no way you could ever justify spending that money on a guy like Gomez. He is not a bad hockey player, but he was just not the guy the Habs needed, especially at his pricetag. Gainey was desperate and he felt he had to do something to bring a so called 1st line center to town. Pleks is pretty much just as good, so calling Gomez the 1st line center the Habs needed doesn’t make any sense.  I understand Gainey’s decision. He pretty much backed himself into a corner, by making so many other bad decisions the previous 5 years, that he had no choice but to take anything resembling a top line center before his planned overhaul, to the team last July. Gainey was talking about getting an impact top line center, about getting bigger for years. It never panned out. He couldn’t draft or buy or trade for any. He tried very hard for Vinny, which actually may have been an even worse move long term. In the end the only option left was Gomez. Just because I can understand the move, doesn’t mean it was a smart one or good one or the right one. Now we’re stuck with him for probably 4 more years, so we’ve got to work around that and try to win anyway.

  82. tony d says:

    How about Noooooo, ya crazy Dutch basstard!!

  83. tony d says:

    I had no idea SK was good at doing impressions. He was bang on last night, doing his version Of Pouliot.

    Fearless prediction…SK will never be in a ‘History Will Be Made’ commercial wearing a Habs jersey.

  84. rkd says:

    Are you sure they weren’t just some homeless dudes?  (Seriously though, those players are Fugly with a capital F)

  85. Chuck says:

    Apparently Carey has a big body, has proven that he will fight, and has quite the slapshot. Perhaps JM should find a spot for him on a forward line.

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  86. twocents says:

    Most of your predictions during the season have proven completely wrong.

    Camy did alright as Iginla’s centre and Frolov’s.

    Lombardi may be a downgrade points wise, but I wonder if his style wouldn’t create more production from his wingers. He is more physical and grittier yet still distributes the puck quite well. He’s good on the PK like Pleks, is at least as good in the face off circle, has lots of speed and is responsible defensively… plus he will be cheaper, which is good thing.

    I think he’s a viable option.

  87. avatar_58 says:

    STOP USING BERGERON MARTIN!

    Nooooo! NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!

    *smashes glass*

  88. K-hab25 says:

    Well I’m still wondering when Halak is going to start scoring some goals again. I mean he was the “ONLY REASON” we won against WAS and PIT. Someone needs to find his goal scoring stick and soon.

  89. RockinRey says:

    Never liked Gomez – I hope they can pick up part of the salary some how and pawn him  off on onother team…

    Who would you rather have??

    Briere, Carter, Richards,Gagne,and  Pronger or Kostitsy, kostitsyn, Pleks,Gill, Gomez?

    You would pull a switcheroo in  a heart beat!

    The preponderance of Habs that will not go to the dirty areas is alarming. Pleks has been AWOL for some time now. This guy has to produce! Gomez has to produce. Sadly I don’t think Andre has it in him.All of these guys play on the periphery. What was most telling about having to turn the heat up at this time of the year is that they had an isolation shot on Pleks where he had Pronger at his mercy and he wouldn’t hit him!

    Sergei ?-he has done nothing to deserve his reputation. You know the reputation -that he is a guy with all this talent. He hasn’t proved a thing in the NHL. All he has is a sense of entitlement…

    In my gut  think the series is over but in my heart with 2 at home the Habs can come back with two strong efforts and if they get one they will get a boatload on Leighton!

  90. Ronin says:

    As usual the bandwagon has tipped over tipping its contents onto the road of dispair……but I wax philosophic.  Maybe I’ll just say mass hysteria prevails.  What do we think Washington and Pittsburgh were thinking when this was happening to them?  What happens when the irressistible force hits the immoveable object?

    We’re coming home, let’s see how the team does at the bell center and remember that no Canadiens team has been in the conference final since 93……….its been a hell of a ride and it isn’t quite over yet.

    Even if it is the month of entertainment was pretty special.

  91. smiler2729 says:

    I don’t care who plays goalie but maybe a change stirs things up… but I’d go with Halak. 

    I’ve been pretty quiet for awhile about my dislike of Tomas Plekanec as a player. He’s overrated and definitely overvalued. His 75 points this regular season have to be the quietest 75 points. I gave him some props in the 1st round when I said he elevated his playoff game to “playing like a big girl now” but the guy has COMPLETELY DISAPPEARED and the Flyers bring out the little girl in him again. THERE’S NO WAY THIS GUY IS WORTH WHAT YOU ALL THINK HE SHOULD GET.

    Coincidence or voodoo? The European factor of this team vanishes somehow someway in playoffs every time.

    Just sayin’ is all.

  92. ed lopaz says:

    Habs hockey = Smart hockey we work as a team, and we win as a team. we play 5 man defence – not just 2.

    Plekanec had 25 goals and 45 assists for 70 points – not 75.

  93. smiler2729 says:

    Whatever, you get the point. geez.

  94. ed lopaz says:

    Habs hockey = Smart hockey we work as a team, and we win as a team. we play 5 man defence – not just 2.

    I get the point very well. And so do the Habs.

  95. RetroMikey says:

    Here’s a little tidbit about Michael F. Leighton….

    On February 27, 2007 Leighton was picked up by our mighty Habs after playing 4 games with the last place Flyers at the time but never played a game with us.

    Montreal traded Leighton to Carolina for a 7th round pick in the 2007 Entry Draft where we selected a nobody in Scot Kishel.

    Another Bobby blunder.

    The journeyman Michael Leighton has proved everyone wrong.

     

     

    “We will win the Cup one day only with ? in the nets “

  96. RockinRey says:

    Have to agree . Very quiet 70 ish points. But I guess we have to realize that there is a need for guys who can get you almost a point per game. Maybe a better way to evaluate a guy is if they make their linemates more productive or to evaluate them on game winning goals etc…

    I would keep him but I don’t think he is a number one. Remember this even supposed prototypical #1′s don’t get it done in the playoffs! See Marleau and Thornton. It is just a different season where the temp gets cranked up huge and the checking is more fierce.

    I am pissed about last night but perspective is needed, it has been a wild ride you never know what can happen  and at least one home win would be nice.

    The thing that is so bothersome is it so difficult to get to the cup finals. You need luck ( see Habs, Philly) , need the favorites to choke ( Pit, Wash) so that is why this is a little upsetting . If the Habs waste the opportunity where favorites are knocked out they will be thinking about what could have been for a while.

  97. Will Longlade says:

    Yes, and Bob is also responsible for JFK going down, the global economic recession and probably the end of the world to put an exclamation mark on his body of work!

  98. MathMan says:

    Gomez is a player who excels at tilting the ice, at getting the puck in the offensive zone and keeping it there. Problem is, that’s not really part of the Habs’ gameplan. I think that of all the players that suffer from the Habs’ strategic approach (which would be all the Habs), he is the one whose style is least suited.

    He is a #1 center, in the sense that you can throw him out against tough opposition and expect a positive result, he will get his points, maybe not as much as you’d like but the other guys will get fewer, even if they’re big-time scorers. He’s usually a very strong 5-on-5 player. What he’s not suited for though is this zero-forecheck, always-backcheck, make-a-wall-in-front-of-the-net game the Habs are playing.

    He finished the season with 40 ES points, good for second on the team, while sharing the heavy lifting with Plekanec (Pleky had 45 ES points). He doesn’t produce on the PP, but Montreal’s PP hasn’t exactly been hurting. He’s a case of point totals not telling the whole story.

  99. Mark C says:

    May I ask how you came up with this wild comparison? Those are the Flyers’ top 5 players, why are you comparing them to the Brothers and Gill? Right now, SK74 isn’t a top 15 player on this team, what does he have to do with Gagne? Why didn’t you have Gio or Cammalleri on that list?

  100. smiler2729 says:

    Our “Cup” this season was choking the heavy Eastern favourites – THAT was AWESOME. But yeah, this ain’t over, the Habs can easily take the next two at the Bell Centre.

    Last week, the Toronto Sun ran a cover story about all the Leaf fans jumping on the Habs’ bandwagon. Since then they haven’t scored a goal. Jinxed by ‘em.

  101. Tis Himself says:

    Ian: Change that goddamn diaper for God’s sake!!!

  102. DearyLeary says:

    One of my biggest problems: MAB at 18 minutes played. The guy has no confidence right now, and this is not the time to coddle a guy who has been notorious for being a giveaway machine his entire career.  He’s a bad first pass out of the zone, he hangs on to the puck too long in his own end, he doesn’t skate well, he’s all of the sudden become unwilling to actually shoot on the power play (and when Bergeron thinks he’s the ‘quarterback’ trying to make fancy passes, that’s when our power play innevitably breaks down). 

    This guy had more ice time than Spacek and Gill for goodness sake, two of our steadiest defencemen this playoff.  It makes me cringe every time he touches the puck.  It’s a result of losing Markov, and frankly this is just a delayed reaction from the Canadiens from losing a real franchise player.

  103. Chuck says:

    Really? Moving along an (at the time) 26 year-old journeyman goalie is considered a blunder? What has Leighton done before these playoffs? And don’t forget that the ONLY reason he’s even in the ice is because of the injury to Boucher.

    No one — not even the Flyers — could have figured on Leighton pitching almost 3 games’ worth of shutout hockey in a row in these playoffs.

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  104. Tis Himself says:

    Philly DJs are playing “Feels a Little Like 2008!”



    Hungover as hell cause I stayed
    out late
    Reminiscing ’bout the Flyers in 2008
    With failing hands? They must be high
    Getting’ spanked and they don’t know why

    I believe in four the
    Habs will be nixed
    You can see the shiver in their sticks
    With failing hands? They must be high
    Getting’ spanked and they don’t know why

    Here’s a rap from the cradle of democracy
    I’d like to write more lyrics, but I got to pee…

     

  105. Somethingwithhabsinit says:

    “Another Bobby blunder”

    Nice work. Our goaltenders at that time he was traded were Huet, the starter, Halak, a promising youngster, and Price, who had won MVP trophies at the World Juniors and the Calder Cup in the preceding 6 months. Leighton had a 3.92 GAA and .875 SV% that season. Who would you have given up in his place at the time?

    I guess Bob should have gotten much better return for a goalie that no one wanted and we picked up on waivers. Incidentally, Carolina eventually put him on waivers again this season, which is how Philly got him.

    Most importantly, what has Leighton proven? He’s gotten two shutouts behind a great defensive corps, against one of the lower scoring teams in the league. He also had good stats in 2 of the 3 games that he played against the lowest scoring team in the league, who were missing both their leading goal-scorer and point-getter from the regular season. He’s made some good saves, but I don’t think he’s really been tested all that much.

    Leighton’s decent, but he had worse stats on a better team than both of our goalies this year. Don’t get me wrong, I understand that everything that is wrong in your life is Bob Gainey’s fault. I’m not trying to convince you otherwise. I just thought maybe you would like some more facts to go along with your conclusion.

  106. twocents says:

    Right now Pleks is worth 3.75 mill. Krejci money. No more. He can walk if he wants a ton more than that, in my opinion.

    I might be willing to bend an extra .25 if things got sticky. Otherwise, sign Lombardi for 3 million or sign a winger in that range and move Cammalleri or Pouliot to centre.

  107. ManApart says:

    Alright fine smart guy. Get Lombardi instead of Pleks or put soft defensive Cammy at center with no wingers and see where you’re at. I thought the goal was to improve, not regress. What you want is a guaranteed regression. Are you sure you’re not Bob Gainey?

  108. Mr.Hazard says:

    “Feels a Little Like 2008!” LOL

    “We didn’t give up and we are not giving up.” – Jaroslav Halak

  109. CalgaryHabsFan says:

    Agree I think Pleks and both the mammary brothers need to be moved in the offseason.

    With Pleks though I think we need to sign and trade him as there is not going to be much in the way of UFA centres available in the offseason.

     

    ___________ Never date a Flyers fan even if she shaves her moustache!

  110. Bob Barker says:

    It really pissed me off when he passed to no one on the PP. 

  111. TripleX says:

    I guess JM does not share your confidence in Gomez as it was Pleks going head to head with Crosby and Ovi.

     

    “Good judgement comes from experience, and experience comes from bad judgement.”

  112. smiler2729 says:

    “Sign & Trade”?

    This isn’t the NBA, there is no “sign & trade”. If Pleks knew he was going to get traded, he wouldn’t sign with Montreal again.

  113. smiler2729 says:

    Pleks, AK46, SK74 and Markov. All vanishing acts come playoff time. If Markov is so valuable then he would fetch a Brent Seabrook/Duncan Keith type ina trade, no?

  114. nightmare_49 says:

    Eric – Why Markov? …………  You may be able to get a good return for our brittle Dman. It’s a thinker.

  115. Bob Barker says:

    Let PK play forward for a couple of shifts. The kid can fly through the neutral zone. You can see him wanting to go dig the pucks out of the corners but he has to restrain himself so as not to be out of position defensively. 

  116. The Teacher says:

    Pyatt is probably the single best forward on the team at getting the puck out of our zone on the 1st try. He also makes smart passes and is always battling. I am VERY impressed by him in these playoffs.As a fourth liner, he has been exemplary, even pulling duty on PK.

  117. twocents says:

    I am not about to defend the other three, but I thought Markov played well in the Washington series. Not great, but well and he was and still is our only defencmen who is CONSISTENTLY effective offensively. Yes, I can see that Subban has the tools to be better in this area eventually and soon, but why should we set ourselves up to have only one D capable of this aspect. Markov’s 4 points in 8 games is still the best production rate we have among defencmen in these playoffs.

  118. RetroMikey says:

    Never say never. 

    What bothers me is that the little turd Sergei was out on the starting roster last night. 

    Jacques gave in to the little runt who is nothing more but an overrated prospect  by our team.

    Disappointed that Jacques played him and not Ryan O’Byrne.

    Halak stays in no matter what, he’s earned it.

    I still think we need to get bigger up front next season, too many smurfs upfront  we have.

    But we can bounce back, we’ve been down 2-0  before in the playoffs like in 1993 against Quebec and came back 4 straight to win the series.

    Never say never.

     

     

    “We will win the Cup one day only with ? in the nets “

  119. TripleX says:

    Tom Pyatt….16 GP – 1G – 1A…..what is he doing playing as a top six forward?  The problem is that JM in is infinite wisdom is playing Pyatt on the top line while Pouliot makes paper airplanes.  The problem is MAB playing 18 minutes in both games while O’Byrne makes paper airplanes.  The problem is JM.

     

    “Good judgement comes from experience, and experience comes from bad judgement.”

  120. sisu says:

    You know what would look good in front of Leighton right now?

    Guillaume Latendresse.

  121. Rocket fan says:

    I like the idea of pk up front but better still, how about putting Gill in the crease during power plays and maybe have pk and Gorges out back?   Gill would be a great screen and not get moved out of the slot or crease by anyone.

  122. CalgaryHabsFan says:

    Excellent break down by Robert L. of the size difference between the flyers and habs by position.

    http://www.habseyesontheprize.com/2010/5/19/1478600/a-second-philly-whitewash-habs-and#add-comment

     

     

    ___________ Never date a Flyers fan even if she shaves her moustache!

  123. twocents says:

    Guidoon is right where he is comfortable right now, basking in a total lack of pressure and expectations… by a pool.

  124. Rocket fan says:

    Thats what we got Pouliot for. :)

  125. RockinRey says:

    Not comparing them at all . Simply stating here are 5 guys that even the ‘names’and reps are superior that is all – relax!! Substitute the names you want even Gio and Cammi, who are nice players . And i know the games are not played based on rep but you have to agree the Habs are up against it against these guys. Gomez, Pleks, the brothers and Pouliot have done squat!! And 4 of those guys are on the top two lines!!!

    Half of the teams goals are by two players it doesn’t take a rocket scientist to figure out if they go cold the Habs are in tough especially for a team that has a hard time scoring goals as it is!!

    It was my posting , don’t get all bent out of shape !!

  126. twocents says:

    So, by your logic we improve by tying up more money in Pleks and his yearly spring disappearing act? Interesting.

    Signing Lombardi could add some wiggle room in our cap space, which then could be used to upgrade the wing position.

  127. Chuck says:

    What has Halak earned? The right to have his name next to a 4-game Philly sweep? I’m not saying that it’s his fault, but skaters get rotated in and out of the lineup all of the time depending on who gives the team the best chance on success. Would Carey have fared better? I can’t say, but when you’re down 2-0 ALL options should be on the table, whether the coach decides to follow through on them or not.

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  128. Norm0770 says:

    Thanks.  I’m glad I read your post before I launched into a diatribe amounting to the same thing.  The fact that Bob got anything for Leighton is surprising.

  129. Chuck says:

    Teams get hot and go cold all of the time. We were hot when it mattered in rounds 1 and 2, and Philly was on ice for the first three games of round 2 after being hot against the Devils in round 1.

    Now Philly is hot, playing decent hockey on the back of a goalie who probably doesn’t know that he shouldn’t be playing so well. They won’t shut us out four games in a row. Keep at ‘em, and the armour will crack.

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    Cheer for the crest on the front of the jersey, not the name on the back.

  130. The Teacher says:

    He is playing there because Pouliot was deemed unfit for the job. He did not want to mess up the other lines so he stuck a defensively responsible forward with speed to allow Gomez and Gionta to play their games and not worry about anything but their own defensive responsibilities.

     

    Look at the big picture jeesh.

     

    I do agree with your view on MAB vs. OB though. Perplexing to say the least. If you take out Pouliot just dress 7 D and play MAB the 2 mins a game Pouliot was anyways???!!!

     

    JM can’t be too much of a problem if he took the team to the 3rd round for the first time in 17 years.

  131. cautiousoptimist says:

    Doesn’t matter if the Habs have Halak in net or your grandmother — if they don’t score, they don’t win, no matter how many saves the goalie makes.

    1. http://www.flickeringpictures.com – not a hockey site, but still kinda neat
       
    2. Mike Boone: “With Gainey at my side, I’d walk into any dark alley in the world.”
  132. twocents says:

    Bryan, I’ll grant it’s a thinker, but something good better be coming back the other way. I don’t mind Smiler’s suggestion of Keith, but i can’t see Chicago going for it considering the age difference of the two players and the fact that Keith is signed long term.

  133. Robert L says:

    “Another Bobby blunder”

    Are you aware perhaps that Leighton has changed teams five or six times through waivers and free agent signings and that Gainey is the only GM who’s owned Leighton that has managed to ever get something in return for him?

    A draft pick, regardless of how they turn out, even late ones are never negligable. In late rounds, the Canadiens have managed to find talent there in picks for Michael Ryder, Mark Streit, Sergei, D’Agostini, Markov and Jaro.

    Brilliant use of one sided hindsight, by the way.

  134. Castor says:

    THAT’S IT. TIME TO BRING IN PICARD FOR A PEP TALK!

     

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qr3rlT7NfVU

  135. Clay4bc says:

    Dude, that’s hilarious! Great joke, really!

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  136. joeybarrie says:

    So I’m going to go back on the comments I made last night. I wanted to see Price in Game 3. But if Price is playing the way he has all season, what will it do. Nothing. TRUE is the statement that the only reason we are here is because Halak gave us the chance to win. So we should finish with him. No reason to see what Price can do, when we all know if Halak is hot we can win.

    But Halak did not look good last night.

    We are cold, and they are hot. We have to turn it around and we can by winning the next game. But like they say they got to get in the spots where the dirty goals get scored. Easy to say, because thru 2 games they have not gone there.But we are a streaky team, and I hope our bad streak is at an end. We should have won Game 2 vs the Caps, we outplayed them and we lost in overtime. So hopefully we come back with the same response. We were the better team last night. Our finishing sucks, and we are making it easy for Leighton.

    All sign point to golf next week………..HOWEVER, let’s remember these guys have done very very well. We have had a blast cheering them on and beating two of the best teams in the NHL. They have clearly showed us they can win. With a few peices we can contend with any team. What I hjave learned, is I now hope we sign both goalie’s next season. We will need them BOTH…..

    There may be other teams, but only ONE Club De Hockey…

  137. Clay4bc says:

    What has Halak earned? Obviously not your respect, along with 3 or 4 other people here – and Priceberg, who is in hiding. But he has earned the respect of his coach, all Habs fans (save you and the few others mentioned), and the other teams in the league.

    Oh – he has also earned the start in ALL the remaining games this playoff – barring injury.

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  138. Slovak says:

    I did promise that if HABS won’t win the previous game 4:0 I will not write here anything. But let me tell you last thing:

    The system of this team works like this: JARO MUST BE the first one who steps up, he is the one who starts up the energy of this team, when others see and feel JARO is competing HARD suddenly they are different team – COME ON AM I THE ONLY ONE WHO NOTICED THIS? It is not because Jaro is my country man – it is damned fact. Jaro is psychically tired – but if there is someone who can overcome this – it is him – he showed it before – not only in playoff games… 

    Bringing back debate – Jaro vs Price is so stupid, after 2 bad games VS 12 great it is really classy to talk about trading Halak. And some of your comment that he can’t handle the upper part of nets – how many high glow saves did he make? Yes, of course there are some parts of his game that he must work on, but who does not have some weaknesses? Tell me? Nabokov who got 4 pieces last game? Or Brodeur? Or ROY? Or who come on? Who of those elite goaltenders did not have a bad bad streak and back to back burnouts? Yes it is a little shit timing so what? Some of you are still talking about some strategies blablablabla, the only thing they are missing is the touch of magic and energy, which Jaro somehow always managed to spread on others – showing them – if he can stand on his head, they can do it too… 

    Halak is Montreal’s only chance – if he does not overcome psychical exhaustion – which is understandable after 14 extremely emotional games – Montreal is done. It is not question of who deserves the start – don’t be silly to bring back the same stupid sit and play game – you can only loose him this way. Jaro will have these burnouts but know how to overcome them, I don’t say he will be pure magic next game – but he is for sure able to bring back the magic.

    FOR SOME OF YOU – instead of being cowards, you should be with your team till the last drop of blood, because that is the way real fans do it. See things as they are and roll with them, if not you are just useless clowns talking like:

    mmm this team is great, Jaro is next Roy, ups wait a minute trade half of team and Jaro for some magician that can do something, ou no this team is great, no it is not, it is, it is not, Jaro is next Roy, he is not, he is, no he is not, no he is too litle to be elite goaltender, come on Montreal you are the hockey town not assholetown, don’t break my illusion about the city and fans.

    Obstacles can be fixed and fire can start up again – they just need the starter…

    I STILL BELIEVE IN MONTREAL

    I STILL BELIEVE IN MONTREAL

    I STILL BELIEVE IN MONTREAL

    I STILL BELIEVE IN MONTREAL

    BECAUSE WE DID NOT GIVE UP AND WE ARE NOT GIVING UP

  139. joeybarrie says:

    As a supporter of Price I can easily tell you what Halak has earned. The only reason why we were given the chance to win was because of his play. With any other goalie we would be playing golf, and I don’t think we would have even made the playoffs this season…

    Does that make him a god???? YES, for right now in Montreal.

    He has earned the spot, and putting in Price will not help us do any better. Our guys want Halak to play great. They will SCORE, they will WIN if Halak is behind them playing his way to a CONN SMYTH.

    In the end Halak has played well enough to put Price on the bench. HALAK has taken that option away.

    I fell 100% we will se HALAK in Game 3. I think the city wants it, I think the Coaches want it, I think the Players want it……..AND ITS THE RIGHT MOVE. Because there is no move at all, Halak is our guy this season.

    There may be other teams, but only ONE Club De Hockey…

  140. Willy the bum says:

    One of my work staff just saw the whole Flyers team walking down on the streets today.  He came to tell me and the staff, and we are thinking of breaking their legs or at least taunt them that they sucks b@lls.

  141. MathMan says:

    “But who, on this roster, is going to make Leighton’s life difficult?”

    Apparently, Jacques Martin thinks it will be Tom Pyatt. He played almost 10 minutes with Gomez and Gionta. Unsuprisingly this completely negated their effectiveness.

    What Martin sees in Pyatt I have no idea. He seems to favor the appearance of hard work over actual effectiveness as a hockey player. All the work ethic in the world isn’t going to make Pyatt a useful winger for Gomez and Gionta.

    Is he sending a message? That does seem to be Martin’s biggest weapon in his coaching arsenal, doesn’t it? But if the ECF isn’t when you need to stop sending message and start coaching to win, then when is? The SCF?

  142. MathMan says:

    Size is severely overrated as a factor in this matchup, IMO. If it were such a big factor then Martin could solve the problem by replacing Gionta with Pouliot, but somehow I don’t think it would help.

  143. Gr8stFranchizEvr says:

    If you think Leighton has proven anything then surely you know very little about hockey.  He’s had a cakewalk vs. Mtl.  You or I could’ve pulled off shutouts with perimeter shots coming at us and no screening or rebound threats.

    Michael Leighton, your new hero?  Puh-leeeease!!!!

  144. MathMan says:

    Minnesota must be laughing right now, having snagged one of Montreal’s best 5-on-5 guys for a guy who couldn’t even make their roster on a regular basis… and now apparently can’t make Montreal’s either.

    Man, I hate how utterly inept Martin is when he fumbles his young players. Hiring that man has probably set the Habs back a year or two.

  145. Chris says:

    “JM can’t be too much of a problem if he took the team to the 3rd round for the first time in 17 years.”

    Jean Perron has a Stanley Cup.  Doesn’t make him a great coach.

    Coaches, GM’s and players should be judged on an entire season worth of work, not just a few games, even if those games come in the playoffs.  Injuries, matchups and chance play too great a role to throw out 80 games worth of evidence in favour of 12 games (and counting).

    Based on the season, Martin has done okay…some negatives (handling of younger players, some communication issues), some positives (made the playoffs with a roster ravaged by injuries).

  146. Klondike Habs Fan says:

    Hey Guys,

    I am re-working the Annakin Slayed song – it now goes like this:

    “It feels a little like Eighty-three…”

    That is as far as I got so far.

  147. StevieRay says:

    So…our new ” tough” guy is Gomez.. with 25 minutes in penalties … hands of stone …. but …no playoff beard… what’s with that …actually almost no playoff beards …. what’s with that !!

    But in all fairness they do have more ” shaved ” heads than any other team in the playoffs …. interesting observation eh !!

  148. Mark C says:

    Didn’t mean to come off as being bent out of shape, just didn’t understand where you were going, as you were listing apples compared to corn. Of course the top 5 Flyers have superior “names” and “rep” compared to your list of Habs, where you omitted three of the top 5 Canadiens players. Even if you had created a more even and fair list, your point would have still stood, for whatever its worth; I just read it as an unfair shot at the local whipping boys (Gomez, the Brothers, and to some extent Tomas).  

  149. StevieRay says:

    Gomez did the same right afterwards ….

  150. RetroMikey says:

    Read my last statement Robert…...The journeyman Michael Leighton has proved everyone wrong.

    That’s all I am saying, Leighton is proving he is the Bill Ranford of the playoffs.   Leighton brings lots of experience whether  riding the bench or playing and being the vocal cheerleader on the bench.

    Geez, I get ganged up on you and others when I made a statetement  about Bob, and yes,I am aware we had Huet, Price and Halk in our system, so why did Bob sign him, to get a measly 7th round draft pick which  mounted to nothing.  OK,  a pat on the back to Bobby, well done Bobby, well done. 

    “We will win the Cup one day only with ? in the nets “

  151. Shublips says:

    The Habs have to understand that there is a difference between working harder and working smarter.

    Last night, they worked harder than they did in Game 1, but not smarter and it was the same result.  No one going to the net, no one getting to loose pucks or picking up rebounds, no on to screen the goalie or deflect a puck.

    Ugly, and if they don’t wake up this could all be over soon:
    http://www.habsaddict.com/2010/05/canadiens-flyers-leightons-second.html

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  152. TommyB says:

    You know what RM, two years ago I used to think you knew something about this game.  But you’ve really regressed into a whiny little “bad, bad, Bobby Gainey” mal-content.  Maybe you should change your signature to “We will win the Cup one day only with Leighton in the nets.”  Hey, wouldn’t be the first time you did a turnaround!!!!!

  153. RockinRey says:

    Fair enough!

    go Habs go!

  154. Chuck says:

    I’m not saying that we’d fare any better or worse with Price playing, but to blindly say that even the option of changing the goalie to give the Flyers a different look isn’t a possibility is rediculous. EVERY option should be on the table.

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  155. nightmare_49 says:

    Eric – Now that Marky has gone under the knife that thinker won’t happen for awhile and the Hawks wouldn’t even think of that move. ……………..  BTW, people on this site have rated Marky, Norris Trophy, way higher than the NHL pro scouts have, defensively he is only above average and he does make bonehead mistakes often that Norris Trophy winners seldom make. ………………  This surgery makes PG summer even more difficult but may ‘temperarily’ ease his cap pressure.

  156. Chuck says:

    Actually, I do respect Jaro. Do I have my concerns about his viability as the long-term solution to Habs goaltending? Yes, but that doesn’t mean that I don’t appreciate everything that he’s accomplished in this organization… and that goes right back to watching him play at Copps Coliseum as a member of the Bulldogs.

    But whatever. We’ve gotten this far with Halak in net, so you can’t argue the point. But I want the best option for the next game. Was the last couple of games a sign that Jaro is tiring a little? If he’s losing his concentration/focus, would giving him a night off to clear his head be better for the team in the long run? Only JM can answer that one.

    On the whole, Halak hasn’t played poor enough to NOT start. But to blindly ignore the other option – regardless of whether or not it’s used – is like steering the Titanic into the ice field fully believing that your ship won’t sink.

    That said, goaltending is the least of our worries at this point in the series. We’re facing a guy that easily outdueling our goaltending, and we’ve got to get into his wheelhouse and mike life more difficult for Leighton.

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    Cheer for the crest on the front of the jersey, not the name on the back.

  157. RetroMikey says:

    Sorry Chuck but Halak got us this far and Halak stays between the pipes.  Price will not fare better.

    There is no option when it comes to goaltending.

    Halak starts no matter what. 

    Coach Martin would be crazy if he started Price or should I say gamble on Price in the next game, just like when he inserted little Serge in in the lineup.

    I believe the team will bounce back, we’ve just got to get on Leighton’s skin more in front of the net.

    To me, Plekanec has been a major disapoitment along with ANdre Kostitsyn, we need offense from these 2 guys along with Pouliot!

    “We will win the Cup one day only with ? in the nets “

  158. ManApart says:

    They actually might shut out this team 4 in a row. I don’t think the Habs have really even come very close to scoring in 2 games. The way they play, why can’t Philly do it another 2 times?

  159. ManApart says:

    Pouliot is not an NHL player. Lombardi is a major downgrade on Pleks. Cammy is doing just fine on the wing, as a center he would be terrible. Especially in his own end with more defensive responsability down low. Cammy can score, but let’s face it, my grandmother can blow him off the puck. I hera what you’re saying about not wanting to overpay, like the Habs are for Gomez, but you lose Pleks and this offense is a lot worse off than it is now, which is pretty darn bad.

  160. moser17 says:

    A google search for “scubeeny” reveals one page on the entire Internet: this one. What is a scubeeny?

  161. K-hab25 says:

    Actually yes, Halak has earned losing 4 straight to PHI. He’s the #1. Just like Price last year earned the right to lose 4 in a row to BOS, because he was the #1. I don’t think switching goalies last year or this year would really matter. They scored 5 goals in 4 games last year and 0 through 2 this year.

  162. saskhabfan says:

    What do you expect from him? He’s the same douchebag who posted that he hopes the habs missed the playoffs so his “predictions” would be proven right. The guy knows squat about hockey and is probably a closet leaf fan.

     

    Leafstv “telling their fans they deserve to win for over 40 years”

  163. ManApart says:

    Gomez is really as bad as it gets, considering the money that’s being wasted on him. One goal in the playoffs. #1 center on all the PPs and can’t even get a decent scoring chance. Now taking bad penalties and getting outmuscled in his own zone. Looking like a very bad aquisition by Gainey for now and the long term.

  164. 24 Cups says:

    MA – It’s taking all my self control to not say I told you so (as a collective).  This guy just isn’t a #1 centre and is certainly not a game breaker in any regard.  What’s done is done and I have come to accept the fact that we will carry on using two undersized centres for the next few years (if Pleks signs!).  A plan B might be to try and bring in a huge, mean assed 3rd or 4th line pivot to help balance things out a bit.  Laps can stick to RW.

  165. ManApart says:

    For me, it’s not even about Halak earning anything or deserving anything. It’s about Halak being the better goalie, and the goalie that has proven he can do some pretty special things. You go with your best when it comes down to a do or die situation and Halak is unquestionably the Habs bets goalie this season. I’ve seen Price enough this year and in a few playoff games to know, he will not give the Habs a better chance to win this do or die game. Anyhow, goaltending is not even worth talking about when your team can’t even get a sniff at scoring. Flyers know how to shut this team down. I’m afraid that if halak doesn’t get a shutout or maybe let in only 1 goal, this team has no chance at winning.

  166. Skotbot says:

    I dont have the time to read all the comments today, though i do see a lot of talk about Price & Halak.

    I guess you can argue both ways, and im not here to discuss that, however I dont think either of them can score a goal or two..

     

     

    Do I listen to pop music because I am miserable? Or am I miserable because I listen to pop music?

  167. FSUPhi1584 says:

    The problem with playing Pyatt with Gomez and Gionta is that the defense only has to worry about Gionta because he’s the only one on that line that has a good chance at scoring a goal.

  168. Tis Himself says:

    We need “right sizing” on this team. You can’t have your smallest guys sporting the biggest pair and your biggest guys playing like pansies.

  169. Xtrahabsfan says:

    Taylor Pyatt is Hugh, tough and stands in-front of the net beautifully…Artukin needs  the City of Montreal to push him towards greatness and they will…he’s the complete package and Boogarde …well he’s  a fu*king animal,period! We already have Taylors  bro and he’s a keeper,plus Taylor  had an impressive short play-off…they are all needed.I don’t know if you have seen an end to end rush by Artukin…it’s UNBELIEVABLE!

  170. Tis Himself says:

    You’re right, it’s unbelievable. And, will never, ever happen! You have a better chance booking an Atlantic passage on the Lusitania!

  171. Xtrahabsfan says:

    Well …alot of folks said the Habs would never ever beat the Caps and the Pens bro…..

  172. Tis Himself says:

    That has nothing to do with it. Most Habs fans who know something about the game wanted to see them play either the Caps or the Pens because of the favorable matchup given their comparable styles. PG ain’t gonna change the makeup of this team and the cap era prevents him from ponying up scratch to remake the team.

  173. Xtrahabsfan says:

    Thus say buh bye to some current Habs on the team,Plec …Sergi….Metro….Price….AK….that D guy we grabed from the Rangers who played 15 games….and Hammer is a start.

  174. Tis Himself says:

    Hey, I’d part with all of those guys.

  175. TommyB says:

    You mention Desharnais as a replacement for Pleks, and then you go on to say it’s time to acquire BIG ATHLETES.

     

  176. Tis Himself says:

    I heard Desharnais’ pattened move is skating between the legs of opposing defensemen and giving them a sack tweak!

  177. Xtrahabsfan says:

    I have no problem saving salaries using Desharnaise as a play-maker  and have big ,tough ,athlete’s finish the play.

  178. Tis Himself says:

    I don’t know. This bar-belled roster strategy seems like a pipe dream to me. Why not just get players of average size and average speed that have some nuts and give a crap?

  179. Xtrahabsfan says:

    I think we need more size to be more versatile with all the other teams out there.Next year who knows who we play in the Play-offs and what move’s they have made too improve and the Habs job is to win it all so….this would add a level of security,eh bro?

  180. mrhabby says:

    flyers forwards are outplaying our forwards…what can you do.

  181. TripleX says:

    He was injured….hard to score from the press box.

     

    “Good judgement comes from experience, and experience comes from bad judgement.”

  182. Curtis O Habs says:

    Gomez needs to finish on a scoring chance.  Moen needs some time on the powerplay.  Bergeron needs to sit.  O`Byrne needs to dress.  Subban needs some shifts up front with Gomez and Gionta.

  183. isirota1965 says:

    I was at the game last night, and here’s what I saw:  I observed a team which was (for the most part) unwilling to do the dirty work.  People can moan and groan all they want about the Flyers being a dirty team, but I didn’t see any of that last night.  What I saw was a team that finished its checks, forechecked the heck out of the Habs’ defensemen, and had players who (gasp!) were willing to stand IN FRONT of the net.  Really, it’s not that complicated a strategy.  Who on the Canadiens has been willing to do that?  So far, this series has been a mirror image of the last time the Habs played the Flyers in the playoffs, in 2008, when again Montreal had an edge in territorial play but was also unwilling to “do the dirty work” which leads to goals.

    And, as an aside, hearing the Flyers fans mockingly chant “Ole, ole ole ole…….” at various times during the game was just nauseating………… 

  184. Fansincebirth says:

    tell tale clip last night was one of Pleks brushing against Pronger after Pronger passed the puck. His check was so weak it almost looked accidental. Totally sums up the physical aspect of this team.

    They have forgotten what they did in the first two series and it’s killing them. Dump the puck in and hit the GD d-man when he picks it up. Go to the net and when the shot is taken, hack and chop and push until the friggin’ whistle goes, just don’t skate away when the puck hits the goalie. Create some traffic in front of the goalie and make him earn his keep.

    Change this small aspect of the game and we have a series.

    Don’t change them and we are cleaning out the lockers on Sunday…..

    We went into this series expecting to be pounded, hacked, slashed and beaten up by the BSB’s but Laviolette has them playing a tough, physical and above all SMART game. Kudos to Laviolette for being able to keep Carcillo on a leash. We don’t play a tough physical game so why are we pretending we’re that kind of team?

    Series isn’t over by a long shot but if JM doesn’t re-evaluate this team and the one he’s facing, it might as well be.

    Come on guys, pull your heads out before it’s too late!!!!

    “Without the strength of the past, the team may face a choice – to win, or to be French-Canadian?” — Ken Dryden

  185. thepriceiswrong says:

    Why is there even a discussion about Price starting thursday? Can HE score goals?????

  186. Max_a_million says:

    That’s a thought, play Price on the fourth line.

  187. Edwardo says:

    I wouldn’t sign Plekanec, unless it is a sign and trade. I would rather go into next year without a designated number 2 centre than pay him $5m a year for the next 4-5 years. We already have another overpaid centreman who doesn’t score.

  188. Edwardo says:

    I wouldn’t sign Plekanec, unless it is a sign and trade. I would rather go into next year without a designated number 2 centre than pay him $5m a year for the next 4-5 years. We already have another overpaid centreman who doesn’t score.

  189. danedmunds says:

    if backstrom gets 6.7 plekanec should not get over 4 mil.. especially after this playoff where he is easily shutdown. let him go and use that money elsewhere.

  190. avatar_58 says:

    I don’t understand what the hell happened. No one is taking a pass, they don’t have their heads up when getting the puck, they don’t hit, they wait for the puck to come to them – thus losing the battles…..

    I just don’t get it. This isn’t the same team as round 1 and 2. Where’s the fight? The underdog never die spirit? Why is Martin allowing them to phone it in for 2 straight games? The ONLY fight I saw was during that one PP when they were robbed, After that not a SINGLE player looked like they wanted to be out there.

    Disgraceful. I don’t care if they lose, but I do care when they just completely give up. This is not the team I cheered on just a week ago.

  191. Will Longlade says:

    I have a feeling Halak ends up getting the nod for game 3, but for the wrong reasons. Yes, he’s the reason the Habs are where they are. Yes, he deserves it. But deserves it shouldn’t have anything to do with the decision. And if quotes from some of the Hab’s players are true, Price has been standing on his head in practice for weeks. IMO, Price isn’t a downgrade at all and could surprise us with some solid tending. 

    What is boils down to is that the Flyers have found Halak’s achilles heel and they are exploiting it. They are keeping the shot total low and only taking quality chances. When Halak doesn’t see a lot of rubber, he is an ordinary goalie. The Habs also need to do things to change the monentum of the series. Changing up the goalie does that.

  192. Chris says:

    Not to belabour this, but Price’s performance in relief (2 goals on 11 shots) showed that the guy wearing the goalie equipment isn’t the issue.  Let good shooters into prime shooting areas and give them the time to pick a corner and they will make any goalie in the NHL look stupid.

    Getting some early goals was the Habs’ recipe for success in the first two rounds.  Their new strategy, sitting back and being out-hustled and out-muscled while not scoring any goals, has not proven to be a good one.  Methinks the players should go back to working their tails off if they want this run to continue.

  193. Ferg says:

    AK46 is a complete waste of a uniform. He has no drive on the attack and floats behind the play on the backcheck. It must be frustrating for his linemates to see him out there every night. He should sit in the pressbox with his little sister SK. It might encourage him to go to the KHL.

    And O’Byrne has to play. He is part of our future, not MAB. Quit screwing with his head and let him develop. PK is getting his chance. Out there playing road hockey, flopping around like a fish on the dock. 

     

  194. ed lopaz says:

    Habs hockey = Smart hockey we work as a team, and we win as a team. we play 5 man defence – not just 2.

    I have watched every game this season on RDS. I will NEVER WATCH ANOTHER MINUTE on RDS after last night’s game.

    After briere scored, Benoit Brunet LAUGHED and then said “he’s on fire”. The other jack agreed and said he’s an exceptional player!!

    You know how crap we all felt when that goal went in??? I was devastated because I knew we had to score first.

    And then these gaffers throw the pussie Briere right in our face!!

    These guys want the habs to do well – but if a French Quebecois scores against us, that’s good for a close second in their minds. they’ll take that result.

    I don’t want Quebec born players scoring key goals against us, and I don’t want ANYONE scoring against us.

    I hate all the Flyers equally!!

    Well – not for me. That’s where I draw the line. I’m only one fan, but I will not support that station.

    If they want it to be about French and English – they just lost an English guy who has watched RDS Canadianes hockey since it started.

  195. kempie says:

    You’re not gonna like CBC. They had me ready to blow my brains out last night. I wish I had RDS.

  196. punkster says:

    Jeez TH, stick to the Belgians, please.

    FEEL THE PRIDE!

  197. Will Longlade says:

    You mean there’s more than one?

  198. Will Longlade says:

    Hey everyone. I don’t think the Habs are in as bad a spot as everyone thinks. If the first two games tell us anything, it’s that the Habs can compete with the Flyers and even dominate if they play to their strengths. All we need is a few minor adjustments. Less MAB. More OB. No more SK74. Pouliot inserted. No more MAB on the 1st PP. Spacek is better at keeping the puck in the zone, better at getting the puck on net and makes better decisions, period. Which goalie to use is a toss up. I’m in the Price camp because I think the Hab’s Cinderella story would make better copy if there were a few more twists to it. Tomorrow is the bellweather game. Habs win and its a whole new ball game.     

  199. Off-side says:

    Wow, Boone.  Thanks for all the optimism.  If we win tomorrow night and the night after that you should run around the Bell Center block naked for what you say.

  200. The Cat says:

    Please, theres no need for innocent bystanders to be scarred! lol

  201. kelly21 says:

    A friend is selling 2 tickets to tomorrow’s Habs game… 114 row EE (5th
    row from the ice)… 750$ per ticket, call (514)714-8064 if interested!

  202. zozotheclown says:

    Problem with Halak is he’s facing a different monster this round. In previous rounds he faced teams who were willing and more then able to pound a high number of shots at the net. What the flyers are doing is different, perhaps due to video of our two previous series, they walk into the zone, pass around, set up traffic, and wait for great opportunities to shoot. We all know Halak plays amazing when facing a lot of rubber, it gets him in the game, the problem here is he’s facing far fewer shots, and worse these shots are of usually very high quality. Who knows if this is on purpose, but the Flyers aren’t shooting from everywhere, because they know thats what Halak loves.

    That said, should we play Price? Clearly no. We’re too far in at this point and Halak has done too much to not be given the chance to fight this new type of adversary. I do think Price’s style might be more fitting to play against a team like this, but Halak has proven himself to be more then capable of rising to the occaision, and so we must give him that chance one more time.

    As for what we can do to actually score a goal, I don’t know, as JM. OB in might help clear the slot, but might slow the transition game, who knows whats better at this point, but I do know I’ve had enough of MAB on D, even on the PP, nothings working at all with his game right now. I don’t want to throw in the towel now, but lets just say I’ve located said towel, and am ready for next game.

  203. Propwash says:

    That being said, if we lose game 3, and Price is called in for game 4, and we lose, would he deserve the avalanche of accusations thrown at him?

     

    Goalies in Montreal have two roles, netminder and scapegoat. 

  204. habsfan0 says:

    “Oh, and BTW: Philadelphia is 16-0 in series the Flyers lead 2-0.”

    True,but what was the Flyers’ record prior to this year in series they trailed 0-3?

  205. twocents says:

    Hmm.. weird, eh? The whole sit back and get out muscled and out hustled strategy has such a good track record too. ;o)

  206. ManApart says:

    Crosby was right.

  207. nova scotia vees says:

    I really do wish that “reporters” would actually view game tape or at least watch replays.  While I would agree that Halak has not been red-hot, don’t blame him on the 3rd goal.  Watch the replay in slow mo, and it clearly shows that MAB stuck his stick out at the last second and deflected the puck high into the net.  No reason to do it, and it caught Halak by surprise. 

    Gomez has been brutal….Is he content with his 2 rings and bags full of money, and just wants to get in some spring fishing in Alaska??

    Please send the K brothers home NOW…

  208. J. Ambrose says:

    There was one rush by Gomez in the third period where he crossed the line with speed, and started to penetrate the Flyers’ defense, looked like he could carry it right to the net, and what did he do? His usual drop-pass to a trailing forward who was now checked by one of the Flyers Gomez had just skated past. No wonder this guy scores so few goals. He could be standing alone in front of an empty goal, and look for someone to pass it to. 

  209. Fargo Habs Fan says:

    F-em.  Don’t lose faith brothers and sisters.  This just makes the magic that much more magical.  Go Habs!

    -Dustin-

    “The good thing about drinking during games is if they lose, you’re too drunk to care during and too hungover to care after.” – J.T.

  210. habs001 says:

    darche cannot score at this level…pyatt cannot score at this level…moen 6-8 goals a year…lapps 6-8 goals a year…metro cannot score regularly 5 on 5…moore 10-12 goals a year..gomez 12-15 goals a year…ak46 22 goals in 30 games and 0 in 50…sk74 8-10 goals a year..pouliot looks like he is what he was in minnesota…plecks 25 goals a year..gion 30 goals and camm 40 goals…based on this forward line up we should be happy and amazed that we beat wash and pitts…we would be life and death vs any team in the nhl in a playoff series…if you look at the forward line up and your not a biased habs fan this forward line up is not that good…most teams can match and better this line up…we are full of forwards that have no scoring ability and forwards who score in bunches but disappear for very long streches….the amazing and great wins in the firts round have fooled many hab fans into thinking that this team is better than what it is…it is really a 90-94 point team at best

  211. ManApart says:

    Pretty much right on the money. Good post. Don’t forget, the defense has nobody that can jump up into the play with Markov out. Maybe Subban in a year or two, but he’s just a rookie (and this is the NHL playoffs) He is not able to do what he’s used to doing at lower levels.

  212. EricInStL says:

    Irrational exuberance was Greenspan said a while back. Applies to us.

    We are not a team built for the playoffs, PG cannot go into the offseason thinking it will be easy to make the playoffs next year, as we cannot expect it to be easier. In fact it will be harder to make the playoffs next year.

    In Guy Boucher I trust.

  213. yathehabsrule says:

    Gomez said it best that they just have to get one on Leighton, whether it be a dirty on off someone’s ass or otherwise.

    They have to do it early too and make Leighton realize why he’s been passed around the NHL/AHL like an oroginal copy of Led Zeppelin I.

     

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  214. zozotheclown says:

    He’d never be put in that situation, barring injury, a cold goalie facing elimination is asking for failure. Not to mention no goalie deserves the amount of flak Montreal goalies get. But its the nature of the position, you get more praise then you deserve and get more blame then you deserve.

  215. Olay Olay Olay says:

    I agree that we’re still playing because of Halak, but there’s something to be said about what goalie to play for each situation. Halak is great when facing many…many shots. This is not the case in this series and because of that, he has been very sub par. I’m not the biggest Price fan but maybe it’s time to take another chance on the kid.

    That being said, we could put Roy and Dryden in at the same time and still not win without any goals for. Maybe I’m biased but I cringe every time MAB or AK go near the puck, especially MAB. He’s gotten lucky on so many bad decisions it makes me wonder if Martin is even watching the damn game.

  216. Bob Barker says:

    Ak46 was one of the few players that generated any chances. He had a couple of good looks but Leighton made the saves. Did you cringe when he walked though the Flyers team and got a good shot off?

    I understand he disappears for long stretches and deserves to be criticized for it but the guy should get a little credit when he actually generates scoring chances. 

  217. 100HABS says:

    AK had a good game. And SK looked like he needed better linemates.

  218. TripleX says:

    I don’t know what other moves Jacques Martin can make to shake his team
    up for Game 3.

    Well Mr. Boone I think putting in a player who has not played a game in over a month on the fourth line, IS NOT THE MOVE TO MAKE.

    How about a little imagination and creativity?  How about showing confidence in Pouliot and telling him he can help this team and play him with Gomez and Gionta.  How about putting O’Byrne on the roster and telling him he has confidence in him and to clear the front of the net and punish the Flyer forwards.  How about putting SK on the PP?  How about telling Moore and Laps forget about scoring just go out there and hit and disrupt the Flyers.  How about playing PK Suban with players that can actually convert on his passes and capitalize on his rushes instead of Moore.  How about realizing Gill is not the player he was before the terrible cut and not putting him in  critical situations.  How about MAB???? How about realizing Hammer is not a top Dman anymore and should see limited PK time.  How about throwing the puck in Pronger’s side and make him skate back for it and punish him when he does.

     

    “Good judgement comes from experience, and experience comes from bad judgement.”

  219. 4loorplay says:

    flyers gonna sweep us….

  220. Bob Barker says:

    The answer to the Pleks math problem is no more than 4.64 million. 

    6.7/101 x 70 = 4.64. 

     

  221. EricInStL says:

    That price is not right Bob…..

    In Guy Boucher I trust.

  222. ManApart says:

    I take Pleks at 4.6 anyday ahead of Gomez and his 7.3. Unfortuneately that isn’t a choice. You let Pleks walk and who replaces him. Desharnais? There really is nobody else. You have to sign him and then eventually trade him or Gomez, if you find a replacement. You can’t just lose him for nothing. I have a feeling we haven’t even seen the full impact of some of Gainey’s decisions. It could be worse than i imagined.

  223. J. Ambrose says:

    Sounds about right to me.

  224. 100HABS says:

    A logical solution.

  225. Mike Boone says:

    Gomez is untradeable.

  226. EricInStL says:

    Not even if you package him with someone else ? Might work but then you piss off Cammi and Gionta. So in that way he is untradable.

    In Guy Boucher I trust.

  227. ManApart says:

    I guess you’re right, but then again, maybe Gainey will pop up in Atlanta’s GM chair or something and repeat the unrepeatable.

  228. Gr8stFranchizEvr says:

    Well, friends, it was a rollercoaster season and a great playoff
    run.  After going 2 games without scoring a goal on Michael “I’ve got
    it easy vs. the tiny Habs” Leighton, our post-season fairytale is all
    but done.  Philly will sweep this one in 4.  I thoroughly enjoyed this
    unexpected wave of winning — it made April and May pass quickly!

    The
    story early in the season has come back to haunt:  Habs are too small. 
    This is clearly evident vs. a big grinding team like Philly.  Sadly, it
    is our undoing.

    Way to go, Canadiens!  Thank you for a surprise finish!

  229. Willy the bum says:

    Don’t think that way, the Habs still got chances left to end the Flyers’ run… think positive until they’re done.

  230. Willy the bum says:

    Some Philly fan posted that Leighton is the new Halak. I swear to find this poster and break him. Although at least I give him credit for recognizing Halak to the world.

    I may be crazy, but I’m kinda agreed with Cherry on explaining post-game that the Habs are not getting more aggressive and always make traffic in Leighton’s zone; crash him and make him uneasy.

    And its known that this is not a series of skill, but of grit. Its a challenge and the Habs must play by their rules: full-out brawl!!!

  231. TommyB says:

    Full-out brawl?  LMAO, yup, our grit and size will prevail in an all-out brawl.  Skill is the only prayer this team has vs the Flyers.  You can only use the tools you have, not the tools you see in the Sears catalog that you wish you had.

  232. Tis Himself says:

    What they should do is bring that crazy-ass bastard on the ‘dogs that got tossed from MSU’s program, I think his name is Conboy, up an give him a bounty to run Leighton.

  233. Exit716 says:

    Plekanec will likely be overpaid by the Habs because there are ZERO options in the organization to replace him.

    That’s where the scouting really shows its flaws.

    A solid organization with good depth would have a player ready to replace Plekanec. The Habs don’t unless Ben Maxwell develops into something.

     

  234. Xtrahabsfan says:

    Desharnais could easily replace Plecs …it time to acquire BIG ATHLETE’S….gET AURTKIN,BOOGARDE and Taylor Pyatt in the off season and the play the Plyiers.

  235. Tis Himself says:

    I had to break it to the masses, but the Flyers are by no means gooning it up. It’s not their fault that the Habs were designed to be successful only against “dainty” opponents.

  236. TommyB says:

    You’re right.  But if there was an all out brawl it wouldn’t be pretty for fans of the Montreal Canadiens.  The Flyers are beating us at our own game…with skill.  And Leighton’s “heroics” are almost comical.  What is happening is the equivalent of me trying to beat the goalie from the periphery.  Ain’t gonna happen.  Gotta get to the dirty areas.  Habs have one more chance to straighten that out.  They must win the next two, and then it would get interesting.

  237. Tis Himself says:

    Given the way the Habs are playing, the only hope they have of scoring is for there to be an emergency meeting of NHL GMs and they adopt the dimensions of soccer nets. They have reverted to the pucksturbating perimeter pussies that we have loathed since the lockout season. I would bring up OB just to put his frame in front of Leighton on the PP. Hey, maybe he can play the wing on a 4th line? Who knows? This team in the best of times gets by with maybe 50% of their forwards showing up on any given night. I’d give it a go. BTW, what the fuc:< was Martin thinking dressing SK last night? That was the coaching equivalent of going “full retard!”

  238. TommyB says:

    Yeah geez, I don’t know.  Putting SK into the lineup was weird enough as it is, but if you are gonna insert him, why do you only play him 4 minutes?  I guess the answer is…that’s just how awful Pouliot has been.  What’s funny is…many of us used to bitch about Carbo’s constant line changing, but JM seems to stick to the same lines almost to a fault.  Shuffle the deck during the game for crying out loud.  You got nothing going, try something different.  Even if it means putting the Kosty boys together for a couple of shifts.  Who knows, it just might click. 

  239. Tis Himself says:

    The reason I did not want to see us play the Flyers had nothing to do with their roster or the fact that a loss would unleash a rag-a-thon from my wife and in-laws, but that I knew Peter Laviolette would outcoach Martin. He waxed the Habs en route to the 2006 Cup and I had a gut feeling he would do it again. He knows hockey and given the right tools finds ways to exceed expectations.

  240. TommyB says:

    I wanted the Bruins because I felt we had a better chance with them.  I figured they looked as battered and worn out as a team could be.  I thought even so, they could pull one game out of the last four after staking a 3 games to 0 lead.  Maybe Violette had a lot to do with that.  Hell, I’m sure he did have a lot to do with that, but one Stanley Cup on his resume does not make him an uber-genius in my opinion.  Cripes, Jean Perron won a freakin’ Stanley Cup!  I honestly think the Habs were thinking the same as me.  They had their minds on the Bruins, and having gotten the Flyers instead, they got caught unprepared.  Getting caught unprepared, does cast some side glances on the coaching.  You are right about that.

  241. Tis Himself says:

    I like it too! I noticed that you proposed it for next year. Good call. I don’t think we will score in this series either!


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