About last night …


Michel Therrien thought your Montreal Canadiens played a good game in Ottawa Thursday night.
In remarks excerpted on L’Antichambre after the Canadiens’ 4-1 loss to the Senators, the coach said he “liked the effort.” Therrien felt the Canadiens dictated the pace of the game and had great scoring chances.
His team, Therrien said, played a solid road game and was not intimidated by the home side.
Citing “many positives”, Therrien praised the Canadiens execution, their skating and the pressure they were able to exert on the Senators.
Ottawa goaltender Robin Lehner made the difference, Therrien said.
OK, then.

That being said …

Your Montreal Canadiens are on a season-high four-game losing streak.

They have scored 11 goals in their last seven games – after scoring 33 in their first 10.

The playoffs don’t begin in November. But if they did, the Canadiens would be clinging to the eighth and final berth in the Eastern Conference – one point ahead of Ottawa, which has a game in hand, and two points ahead of a couple clubs who hold a game in hand, Carolina and the Islanders, who are at the Bell Centre Sunday evening.

There is, of course, much hockey to be played. And with due respect to the kindly old coach, let’s hope the Canadiens play better than they did in Ottawa.

Yes, Robin Lehner faced 34 shots, while the Senators were held to 24. But how many of those shots did the Ottawa goaltender see clearly? And how many did Price attempt to draw a bead on through a jungle of legs, arms, sticks and bodies.

The only Canadien to trouble Lehner to any degree was wee Brendan Gallagher, whose team-leading feistiness drew four minor penalties … including one for goaltender interference.

With Gallagher off so often, the Canadiens’ penalty-kill was tseted. And once again, the PK pitched a shutout. There hasn’t been a power-play goal scored on them since the first period of San Jose’s visit to the Bell Centre, and that was almost two weeks ago.

The PK, which struggled in the early going, is now the NHL’s third most efficient, with an 87.3 kill rate. And the power play, which produced the Andrei Markov goal that gave the Canadiens a first-period lead, is sixth in the league at 23.4 per cent – just a hair behind Toronto.

Special teams are not an issue with the Canadiens.

Even strength? That’s another story. The Canadiens rank 14th in the league in 5-on-5 scoring.

Michel Bergeron stated the problem succinctly on L’Antichambre: the Canadiens don’t have a sniper.

“They don’t have a Bobby Ryan,” the ex-coach said. “They don’t have a Stamkos.”

From the day he was drafted, I’ve been convinced that Alex Galchenyuk is going to be a star in the NHL. But to reach that status, the kid needs a finisher.

Brendan Gallagher has the heart of a lion and, as mentioned, will happily crash the crease in pursuit of goals. But Gally’s friend Chucky needs a winger who can one-time those sweet saucer passes.

Galchenyuk makes me miss Mike Cammalleri.

And there are times, I’m afraid, when Therrien makes me miss Jacques Martin.

I heard an analyst – it might have been Ray Ferraro – recently list the critical times of a hockey game: the beginnings and endings of each period and the shifts immediately following a Goal For or a Goal Against.

Therrien always has his team ready for the start of games. The Canadiens were all over the Senators early, and Lehner kept the game scoreless.

But then after Markov scored, Therrien deploys the EGG line – not the best defensive trio. And Bobby Ryan ties it up.

After Mark Methot jumped on an Andrei Markov turnover to make it 2-1, Therrien sends out George Parros, Travis Moen and Ryan White.

Bing! Mark Borowiecki makes it 3-1.

Late in the game, Canadiens down by two and Carey Price on the bench: Francis Bouillon attempts to channel Bobby Orr. The Canadiens’ 38-year-old defenceman – who’s out with Raphael Diaz, the kids and Rene Bourque – turns the puck over at the Ottawa blueline and Kyle Turris scores an empty-netter.

Some sobering stats:

• The Canadiens lost 38 of 61 faceoffs. David Desharnais went 2-8 – the only entry on DD’s stat line. He had no shots, misses or shots blocked; no hits, no giveaways or takeaways.

• The Canadiens were outhit 38-20. Marc Methot and Zack Smith each had seven hits for Ottawa. P.K. Subban led the Canadiens with four.

• P.K. had nine shots on goal, Markov five. Seven Canadiens had no SoG.

• Carey Price made 20 saves while his teammates blocked 22 shots. Price was beaten three times on the first 12 shots he faced.

• Andrei Markov played 27:39 and blocked six shots. I know he plays a cerebral game and avoids big hits. And I know it’s a contract year.

But tabarnac, what’s Markov gonna have left in the tank come April?

And will he be making those sweet plays in bleu-blanc-rouge?

This says it all.






  1. Jdub1985 says:


  2. fred11 says:

    The fact is this, PK is one of a few dynamic players that can change a game in the NHL and we have him. When you are in a 2-2 game and PK is on the bench, its poor coaching then. When Montreal is up a goal or two then maybe PK sits. He’s still learning the game and holds the honours of being the Norris Trophy winner. He’s got a great shot, lots of energy, gives 100% every game, and wants to be in Montreal. If Therrien is looking to give it to someone, try getting Desharnis to start earning his 14m contract he got last March. Its simple as this, play those young’s if they are the ones that will work the hardest. I can think of two that are in Hamilton right now that is better than Douglas Murray.
    Go Habs Go!

  3. cynic says:

    Is it too early to call for Therrien’s dismissal or would it better to wait until we see our playoff chances slipping away?

  4. SteverenO says:

    Review of yesterday’s pregame post:

    Do you think someone (parros) will have a word with Gryba for the hit he put on Eller last year?

    It would be nice to get Gruba out of the game, he been their shut down guy this season,

    The Senators give up an even strength goal every 23 minutes, (overall) , When Gryba is NOT on the ice they are allowing an even strength goal every 20 minutes.

    Gryba HAS been on the ice at even strength, 115:00 minutes so far only one goal allowed.

    The more time he spends in the penalty box the better off we are.

    Therrien should have a plan to neutralize the line of McArthur Turris and Ryan- They score often and rarely allow goals against. I would play Gorges and Diaz against them as much as possible, we are unlikely to get many scoring chances when they are on the ice.

    Their other scoring line, Greening ,Spezza , and Zbinejad, give up as many, or more goals than they score. Subban and Markov should be on against these guys- we will get lots of scoring chances.

    Not sure why Michalek is on the third line , he can be dangerous.

    The good news is Ottawa has scored only two PP Goals in 22 chances at home this season. The bad news they have allowed only one PP goals against in 29 chances at home this season.

    Lets beat them 5 on 5 !

    Go HABS Go!

    While I rarely agree with Therrien, he was right when he said that we “controlled” the game, we had many more scoring chances than they did, and could easily have been ahead by three or more goals in the first 10 minutes of the game.

    On the other hand what was about the game plan?

    The line of Turris, McArthur., and Ryan line were on for the first ,third, and 4th (empty net) goal. . who was on against them:

    The Sen’s first goal was scored while Eller, and the two Gally’,s were on up front, and Gorges and Bouillon were on defense.
    Coming as it did, 28 seconds after the Habs took a 1-0 lead on a powerplay goal, it was a real turning point. The question i have is why were Gorges and Bouillon paired together, at that time? Gorges usually plays with Diaz, and that , in my opinion, was the defence pairing that should have been matched up against the Sens top line.

    McLean 1 Therrien -0

    The Sens second goal was scored with Spezza centering McArthur and Michaelak, not one of the Sens regular lines. It seems like the Habs got confused here as the players on the ice when the goal was scored included Plekanec and Gionat up front with 3 defencemen , Gorges, Bouillon , and Markov.

    McLean 2 -Therrien -0

    The third , and killing goal ,was scored on the ensuing shift. Whew Mclean saw parros , White, and Moen on the ice for the faceoff, he must have been laughing, and countered with the Turris line , (including Ryan and Mcarthur, a huge mismatch and no surprize that the puck found it’s way into the Habs net after 37 seconds of scrambling in our own zone.

    McLean 3 – Therrien -0

    I read somewhere in Boone’s comments that teh Habs special teams are doing just great, and while its true that overall our powerplay has been very efficient, I think that most people “miss” thepoint.

    In almost every game, one single goal could be the difference between winning, or losing, or at least getting into a shootout.

    The fact the the Habs are 4th best in the NHL on the PP does NOT mean we can just put out any players we want when we have teh man advantage.Th ecoach should be analyzing why ma nd who have been contributing to the success of gthe PP and do his best to give them as much PP time as possible.

    It took way too long, in my opinion, but it seems as if it finally dawned on Therrien that Plekanec and Gionta HAVE to be given the lion’s share of PP ice time. This is a no brainer.

    The second wave is where we could improve.

    For some reason Bourque and Bournival who have been successful and productive on the PP are being pushed aside in favor of Gallagher and Eller, who have been less productive.

    here are some numbers:

    Player: Team PPgs ,Mins of PP TOI, AVG Mis per goal ; Success %

    Gallagher: 4 PPGF — 40 MIns PP TOI – 10 MINSperPPG- .200 AVG
    Eller: 3 PPGF – 33 Mins PPTOI – 11 mins per PPG – .181 AVG

    Bourque: 5 PPGF — 34 Mins PP TOI — 5.8 mis per PPG – .294 AVG
    Bournival: 2 PPGF — 8,2 Mins PP TOI — 4.1 Mins per PPG -487 AVG

    PP Ice time last night:

    Gallagher : 2 mins 33
    Eller: 1 min 50 secs

    Bourque: 50 seconds
    Bournival — Zero

    Inessence , Bourque a consistent .300 hitter was given leess than half the time as was Eller and Gallagher, both of whoam are hitting at or below .200.

    The point is that it is the coaches job to optimize the teams chances of scoring, especially on the PP. Therrien does not.

    When it will it be time to play a forward on the back end for the second wave. Bouillon and Diaz have now played approximately 25 minutes with the man advantage, and the team has scored only one goal.

    There should be at least two more PP goals scored if the coach would only make some adjustments to the second wave.


    Steve O.

    • SteverenO says:

      As far as Gryba, gies, he didn’t look that good yesterday, It is surprising that the opponents have not scored more goals when he is on the ice. He was a turnover machine yesterday.
      The box score says he was responsible for two turnovers but It seemd to me that there were many more than that.

      Anyway as we should all know the only stat that really matter’s is goals for and against.


      Steve O.

  5. sweetmad says:

    MY glass is still full,my cup runneth over,
    Did you really expect this team to be mired in clover,
    We have been hit by injuries day after day,
    Just wait till all our guys get back to play.

    Max has been out,so it’s too soon to tell,
    If he is really fit and well,
    Pk played 27 minutes last night,
    Didn’t our coach do one thing right,

    Prust will be back soon,to give us some life,
    He will add some edge to our knife,
    Emilin will be back, behind the net,
    He will give some hits,you can bet.

    We know a sniper is what we need,
    We have enough players who can feed,
    The puck to anyone we can aquire,
    But you don’t get them off the shelf at Candian tyre.

    Maybe Bournival could be that guy,
    We have to give him the chance to try,
    We may not win the cup this year,
    But really soon,we will have our chance to cheer.

    But not with MT behind the bench,
    Our coach could be from Mars,as long as he parlez French!!????
    I will never give up, my glass will not drain,
    This is my team,no matter the pain.

  6. chfan4life says:

    It is always the same quote we have all been hearing. “We played well but we ran into a hot goaltender”. I thought Price was suppose to be the hot goaltender. I’m tired of giving every opponent’s goalie the headline. We’ve always create enough chances but we cannot convert. Bottom line, we need finishers. I can’t remember the last time we had a top notch sniper since Lafleur. I guess Turgeon was sort of one. I can’t wait for the day we have one in our lineup again. Until then, here’s to many nights of frustration watching the Habs score.

    • Man Dingga says:

      Come on…really? Price has been good this year. Our forwards make every goalie look good. We can’t score, we have one line playing half decent and our defence is brutal. On top of that our coach continues to make bad decisions.

  7. ffenliv says:

    And, just as people supporting tanking for picks should look to the Oilers, people saying that it’s still early should send a glance towards the Jays. Fans said that for two months, and it only ever got worse, not better.

    If management thinks changes now can make the team better, they should pull the trigger now.

  8. ffenliv says:

    Anyone who thinks tanking is a good idea need only glance over to the Oilers and then run the other way, screaming.

    You can say what you want about the mistakes that they’ve made, but that all goes to the point: drafting is a crap-shoot.

    I think the Habs have plenty of young talent that will improve over time, and some that’s already playing above their previously-expected potential.

    I agree with the people that think there are gaps on the team that might be fixable with the right signings. I think the Habs have done well enough in the draft in recent years to consider that part of the rebuild ‘over’. Drafting a big d-man this year means he likely won’t be in the lineup as a top-4 regular for years.

  9. jackbutt says:

    I’m not ready to dismiss this team just yet. But it is getting scarry. Let’s hope Prusts return sparks the offence again. GO HABS GO!!

  10. Bill says:

    I didn’t cry last year about the Habs not having a heavyweight. And I also think Parros – who seems like an awesome guy and a great family man – brings nothing good to the team and actually costs it in terms of its competitiveness.

    He has played five games. He plays four or five shifts per game. He has been on for zero goals scored and five scored against.

    He is on the ice for goal against about once every five shifts. He is on the ice for a net loss of a goal every game he plays.

    Find me another single player with numbers that brutal in the NHL. You can’t. He’s basically the worst player in the NHL in terms of goals for and against. Try and deny that.

    Also the Habs have lost every game he’s played, so what is he helping with exactly?

    We need a fourth line of Prust, White, and Moen. Parros should sit unless the other team dresses Ivan Drago.

  11. rhino514 says:

    I´ve been thinkg about Galchenyuk lately. This strategy of starting off a kid from junior on the wing.
    Sure, the kid is so talented that the team got over half a point per game from him during his first season.
    But how is he going to learn to play centre if….he doesn´t learn to play centre?
    If the jump from junior to centre in the NHL is indeed so great, then wouldn´t one year (or even half, say) in the AHL (too late now) at least permit the youngster to play his position for a full year and develop there, against tougher competition than junior? For sure, the players taking faceoffs in the AHL have to be alot better than in junior.
    It seems to me if you take a player away from his position for what could end up being most of two years and then he´s two years older, has lost valuable learning time, and has to get reacquainted with his position.
    I know the bruins did it with Seguin, but I doubt if this is the regular route with most players.
    I think the team just doesn´t want to accept one year of growing pains and some extra games lost by sticking a kid at centre. But a kid that talented, third overall, he´s going to learn in a hurry. I think you try and shelter him as much as possible for half a season, and just try and get through that period.

    • otisfxu says:

      Habs don’t really have a good history with young players,,,,,,,

    • Torsion Shear says:

      I believe it had more with the choice between another year in junior and NHL. I understand what you’re saying, but I don’t think at the time the AHL was an option.

      Are they still better off playing Galchenyuk at center and dealing with the growing pains? Maybe, but I’d be more worried about the waiting for him to grow more into his frame and avoid injury.

      I keep thinking when I see all the injuries the Oilers have had over the last few years and thinking, you take guys from junior that are used to be being a) the most skilled and b) at the very least standard size, and put them up against men in the NHL. When they try to play their normal game, they end up getting crushed. Then everyone says they’re “soft” or “injury prone”.

    • Strummer says:

      Re: Galchenyuk’s recent struggles

      Datsyuk, Zetterberg, Ovechkin, and Subban were not playing in the NHL at age 19.
      Chucky’s too good for junior but needs a lot of ice time playing his natural centre position at at higher level than CHL to aid in his development.

      Where is that possible?

      “It’s just an opinion – I could be wrong”

  12. habsguru says:

    love how Parros is condemned because MT uses him wrong, probably by all the posters that cried last year because we didn’t have a legit heavy weight. i couldn’t ask my 10 year old to do my taxes, and then complain the he f’d them up. i guess HIO needs to find a 6’4″ power forward that can score 50, back check, and is trained in at least 3 fighting diciplines!

    • otisfxu says:

      Hey Bartholomew, this isn’t MMA. We need bigger forwards, not neanderthals sitting on the bench for 95% of the game.

      Don’t you see the scores of games he plays in – the other team scored more times than we did in all games – which in hockey is not a good thing…. so he brings absolutely nothing to the table.

    • Strummer says:

      “It’s just an opinion – I could be wrong”

  13. Forum Dog says:

    Too many players who lack tenacity. Bourque, Plekanec, Desharnais. These guys are supposed to provide at least secondary scoring and they are doing very little of anything.

    I respect Plekanec as a player, and I know there are a lot on this board who love him, but he is about as soft as they come these days, and not very creative. Whenever he is pressured he just closes his eyes and throws it to the middle of the ice, or flips it along the wall and hopes someone gets to it. I don’t know how many times I’ve seen them have good possession in the offensive zone, only to have Plekanec throw it away and the other team come back 3-2.

    As Boone notes, the 5 on 5 play is killing them, as it has in years past, and until they change the chemistry on the top 6, it is going nowhere. Time for MB to change things up.

  14. otisfxu says:

    The nail was hit on the head – the Habs need a couple of snipers – guys who are going to get you 30-40 goals a year.

    It seems every good team somehow can draft those type of players except the Habs – it has been years. So is it scouting??

    Now we are talking like Galchenyuk will only be a good playmaker,,,really??? This is the guy we need the 30-40 goals from, otherwise why draft him unless you are going to surround him with someone who can put the puck in the net.

    This team is not really built to do anything but be average. We are no closer to being an elite team then we were 3-4-5 years ago.

    We have an elite goaltender, but that is being, and will be wasted over the length of his contract without any scoring up front. Money should have gone for some offense.

    Now the bigger issue will be trying to find good forwards that would come to Montreal with Therrien behind the bench,,,,,, good luck with that.

  15. Bill says:

    What the hell is a boom test, and who is nobot?

    Attention Houston, we have a problem.

  16. The Cat says:

    You could see it coming, there was only production from unlikely sources, other teams adjusted to counter those unlikely sources and now theres the typical lack of scoring…Plus if the goalie is so &*(*&^ amazing, let him earn his money -stop it with the defensive shell and stop playing to not lose, and play with your speed and counterattack.

    [Disclaimer]: I’m a hockey fan. I care about the habs, but probably not as much as you.

  17. Rocket Riot says:

    We need to unload dd, gio, diaz and gorges to name a few because they are all too easy to play against and make us look like a peewee team playing against grown men – simply embarassing! Even our big fowards play soft (moen, pacs).

    Offering huge contracts to players the likes of gomer, gio, dd and briere is a capital ‘F’ Failure on behalf of our GMs and sends the wrong message to the rest of the team and those whom we play against. What transpires with PK’s next contract will be the biggest test of all for our organization.

    What we really need are blue-collar gritty character players with size and/or determination and attitude as with Gally and the only way forward is through the draft with youth because such players are in demand, which means that we need:

    1) our scouts and GM to be on the lookout for these types of players
    2) to purge the team of all softy passengers and over-the-hill former ‘stars’
    3) three to five more years to rebuild from the ground up

    Unfortunately, this will take a lot more time and patience, something that we are all rapidly running out of…

    • ross says:

      I used to think similarly about Gionta, but no longer. At the end of the day, he gets the job done.

      His second and third best seasons (in terms of goals) were with the Canadiens, believe it or not, in the 09-10 and 10-11 seasons, right after he signed.

      In the 11-12 season, amidst a couple injuries (one of which ended his season) he was on pace for 21 (40 points) goals. In the lockout-shortened season, he was on pace for 24 (44 points). And even in this young 13-14 season, he’s already on pace for 20 goals.

      His production may wane this year or next, but a perennial 20/25 goal-scorer is not something to sneeze at, especially when you consider that he’s also been around the league long enough to be respected.

  18. scotland says:

    “last night the habs had one of their best efforts of the season”

    lol and lost 4-1 to a sens teram that just lost 5 in a row, that played their back up goalie, habs had 7 forwards without a shot on net, zero goals by 12 forwards combined. markov on one leg was their best player and only goal scorer. after price was pulled it took the sens all of 5 seconds to take the puck off the habs and put it in our net. 5 seconds.

    “best effort of the season” LMAO !

    • Bansaw says:

      Did you watch the game Scotland?

      The shots were 20-something to 12. Habs had played well and Sens get 3 quick goals, none of which was even a good scoring chance.

      It is easy to say 12 guys didn’t have shots on goal. So what? Their team was moving the puck weel. They weren’t getting hemmed in their own end, as we have seen recently, and they had some very good chances to cash in. Therrien was right, the effort and execution were there last night, just not the result.

      Nick Saban was on 60 minutes talking about process Sunday. He wants his guys to focus on what they need to do and play without focusing on the score. In sports, you will have nights where you do everything right and lose, but if you maintain that effort, in the longterm, you will see wins pile up.

      I would agree with Habs guru that the reffing when the Habs play the Sens is uneven at best. Sens finish checks with elbows high, hook, hold and interfere and nothing is called. The Habs have better skaters and skill, especially upfront as a collective. They would surely welcome a physical D-man like Methot, but if the Refs are going to let everything go, that plays in the Sens favour.

      A note on calls, Pacioretty embellishes every thing. He also doesnt take it to the net hard. He had a 1-on1 with Karlson in the 2nd I think. He was streaking down the wing and settled for a lazy wrister that was easliy deflected. I would like to see him and Bourque, 2 big bodies, take it to the net with the same effort as Gallagher.

      Those are the Habs larger players and they need to play like it. Watch Columbus, they have a big group of forwards and those guys relish the opportunity to lay the body. Patches, Bourque, not so much…

  19. Bill says:

    Tough night for Price. I absolutely question the utility of having the entire team focus on blocking shots instead of possession.

    It seems like every goal against the Habs is deflected or the kind of wide open chance you only see in PeeWee. That said, the Habs are doing pretty well in the goals against column: lately it’s the offence that has deserted them.

    We’ve been frustrated for years by the refusal of the Habs to go to the crease, make life hard on the opposing goalie, and generally do what other teams do to them. The frustration continues.

    The Habs win that game going away if they trouble Lehner at all.

    • shiram says:

      Max does not go to the net as he used to, he certainly is not the power forward we all hoped he would be.
      Gally is the only one to do with consistency, though Gionta is also one to buzz around the net.

      Agreed on the blocked shot things, this has to wear on a team after a while, and Price has been good, but he can’t block all the shots he does not see just based on positionning alone.

    • Cal says:

      Tough night for all of us to watch. Too many passengers disguised as Hab forwards. When Gally is the only one going to the net, the rest should hang their heads in shame.
      MT the Delusional actually thought the Habs played well and praised Ottawa’s goalie.

    • The Jackal says:

      Agree Bill.
      MT looks to have abandoned the swarm in favour of a less mobile D but one that limits chances. It has worked thus far, as evidenced by our good GAA. But still, this team does not have the horses to pressure the opposition in any zone. We can’t gain possession when the other team is cycling the puck or setting up, so we block shots and wait for a bounce to come our way – it sucks and it will tire them out in the long run just like the swarm did. I don’t think you can fault MT fully for that, he’s trying to do what he can with our patchwork roster, but FFS, just play PK 30 mins a night – he can handle it.

      Hockey sine stercore tauri.

  20. The lack of gritty scoring forwards is a glaring problem, but I recognize that these players don’t get traded (or signed as UFAs) unless a king’s ransom is going the other way. I was fine with MB not signing Clarkson to that ridiculous contract, and I’m fine with him not dealing Tinordi, Nygren and a 1st for Wayne Simmonds. That’s a role you fill through the draft, and for better or for worse, MB at least acknowledged this with his off-the-board McCarron pick.

    With my layman’s eyes though, it seems like the Habs’ next biggest weakness is at D in their own zone: guys like Diaz and Murray are excellent on the PK where lightning quick puck decisions are not required, but both those guys are too prone to brain farts when they have the puck and the opposition is bearing down on them, often choosing to make the tough play (or no play) instead of the simple safe one. I like Diaz, and I think he’s underrated, but he’s particularly awful for this, and he’s a defensive-zone turnover machine.

    Markov, too, surprisingly leads the team with 21 turnovers in 17 games, tied for 3rd in the league. Part of that is due to his high ice time (his partner Subban is next with 15, tied for 18th league-wide). They both have to be better too. Only Gorges with 3 giveaways this year has been rock-solid.

    I know giveaways are a notoriously inaccurate stat — Murray apparently has zero this year, and Diaz has just four (maybe the statisticians only watched him last night). And a steady Emelin will help. But just watching the games, our D has a worrying tendency to blow its clearing attempts or pass to a covered teammate. That’s suicide — repeatedly give NHL-calibre players unearned time in your zone, and they’ll make you pay for it.

    Devils coach Jacques Lemaire on the Daneyko-Kaminski feud – “Daneyko got mad when Kaminski said he was going to knock his teeth out. Dano has only two teeth left, so you can’t say that to Dano.”

  21. Thomas Le Fan says:

    Has Ottawa become the latest edition of the Broad Street Bullies? Foul so often that the referees stop calling many of them? They got lots of penalties last night but they got away with even more. I’m starting to really not like that team.
    And is anyone else finding young Karlson kinda creepy? Hits his team mate in the face with the puck and shows no concern. In fact, a few seconds later, on the bench, he’s laughing.

    There is no crying in baseball, “i” in team or “chuck” in Galchenyuk but … there is fighting in hockey.

  22. habsguru says:

    for all the haters, how many liberties have been taken with Parros in the line up? for the price, sit him on the bench for 59 minutes, and it is well served. problem is MT is sending him out for a push back shift. want push back, send out pleks eller gally for a shift, not three guys that can hardly skate. OUTCOACHED AGAIN!!!!

    • otisfxu says:

      You are a loon. You really think having parros on the bench scared those Senators into a trembling mess????? Who do you guys really thing Parros is – I haven’t seen him do sh!t in a fight. Waste of bench and money.

      • jrshabs1 says:

        who on the team is helping us ? Who would you like to see replace George on the 4th line?..if you have any answers plese forward them to MB..he needs all the help he can get.

        Go Habs Go!!

        • otisfxu says:

          Someone who can skate, play hockey. Duh!!! If we do not have someone in the AHL that can give us 4 minutes of up and down hockey,,,,,,,then kiss this team good bye.

      • jrshabs1 says:

        cont…is DD helping this team in any manner? Parros and DD have the same stats..and that’s a fact jack!

        Go Habs Go!!

      • habsguru says:

        and where was the gong show WWE experience that we witnessed in the playoffs…. oh that’s right, there WERE NO Sens running around in goon mode last night. but that must have been because DD was back. Parros is insurance, must have it, and hope not to use it.

        • otisfxu says:

          One of the nuttier posts I ever read,,,,,,,If he was that important he’d be making more than 900k a year.,,,Insurance against what?? Gallagher was on his ass the whole night,,,,,,where was Parros,,,,,,,oh right on the end of the bench, with a mean face on,,,oooohhhhh

    • frontenac1 says:

      Agree 100% amigo. Parros is paid $900k to punch guys in the face. Maybe as a screen in front of the net. Nothing More. MT is misusing him IMO.

    • Luke says:

      I know. Look at last night for the proof!

      No one on the Sens took any liberties with Gallagher last night because Parros was on the bench.

      Oh wait…

      • habsguru says:

        can’t compare Gally’s wrecking ball play (that i love), to Gryba’s hit on Eller. not even close to the same thing

      • frontenac1 says:

        Who was on his line to protect him? You think Parros should jump on the ice and take an instigator penalty? Actually, maybe next time he should.

        • Luke says:

          What else is he going to do?

          On his next shift he should have grabbed Spezza and pounded him to dust and made a point to say “leave Gallgher alone”

          Isn’t that his job? 2, 5 and a game. It’s not like getting an instigator would have impacted his ice time.

          If he doesn’t do that, what use is he?

      • Luke says:

        No one took any Gryba-Eller “liberties” in the 11 games Parros missed.

        So, yah. With Parros in or out of the lineup, people will or won’t take liberties.

        I’m not saying Parros is soley responsible for these losses.

        What I am saying is that he has not helped the team win. He has directly helped the team lose.

      • jrshabs1 says:

        Unfortunately for you Luke the other 29 teams don’t play a pussy style of game. Your awesome 2nd place team got their faces smashed in during the 1st round playoff loss last year. Since your mighty Habs had no answer they bowed out of the playoffs with the old coach holding his captain in his arms as he cried.
        Luke..your small soft team sucks brother!!!
        Parro’s is step in the right direction. MT is an idiot and doesn’t know how to use him. MT would screw up having Bob Probert on his team.

        MOAR BIGGAR!!!!

        Go Habs Go!!

  23. jrshabs1 says:

    The team blows! Same old same old..Habs can’t score 5 on 5. Habs are too small. How can anybody blame a 4th line guy(Parros) for the teams inability to score? The D is way too small and soft…who’s fault is that? Could somebody explain what Diaz brings to the blueline that Tinordi doesn’t? A fact is a fact..the DD contract/term maybe the worst contract/term in Hab history.
    Why would the Habs bring back an old hack coach like M.T.? Is the French coach talent pool that small? This team needs Divine intervention..’cause in M.B. I do not trust.

    Go Habs Go!!

  24. scotland says:

    could not agree more JP. who would not benefit from a sniper? closest thing the habs have to that is paxeriotty. heave heard it said pax the sniper needs a play making center. now i here chuck the playmaking center needs a sniper. duh….. probably the only combo mt has not tried this year.

    team was better out of the gate and therrien is drainiing them of confidence instead of instilling it. Calling guys out in the media, scolding them on camera, have them nervous to make a mistake, switching the lines up constantly game in game out. period by period.

    if mt thinks this team has any chance contending he is the only person i know who thinks so. last year down the stratch the habs stunk. all he could say during the slump was that “we will be ready for play offs” habs stunk in the play offs………now they in a 4 game losing streak, that is about to get way longer. you know you are in trouble when your best offence is coming from the two defenceman. markov and pk combined for 14 shots on net, the best scoring chances and only goal came from them. i would not be surprised if the habs lose 10 in a row. therrien has to coach this team for what it is. a rebuilding team. patience. let guys like subban, white, tinordi, beauleu galchenyuk (at center) make mistakes. they will be better players for it later when the team is a contender. however if he keeps coaching this team as if it is a contender it will turn into mess. already reminding me of the leafs just watching therrien with his head in his hands and mb up in press box pulling his hair out.

    waiting patiently for a new coach.

    and a top 5 pick in june

  25. Bansaw says:

    I have been a follower of this site for several years. I enjoy ‘About Last Night’ and usually scroll down to see what the consensus is amongst the fans. Lately, I cannot believe how negative things are. I sometimes question whether people actually watch these games or if they simply are waiting for a chance to criticize The Coach, GM, French players, small players and so on and so on.

    Last night, the Habs had one of their best efforts of the season. They controlled play, the D looked solid for the first time all season (specifically Gorges and Diaz who have struggled all season against forecheck pressure). They easily out shot and out chanced the Sens.

    Ottawa goalie played terrific. Sens goals were both through screens and somewhat lucky as neither would be termed a good scoring chance. Methot’s goal was lucky as well, as Markov cleared a loose puck, but right onto his stick.

    If the Habs bring that effort to every game, they will win far more than they lose.

    Specifically, Therrien gets criticized for playing 11 81 27 after the Habs score. He gets criticized for playing 15 53 32 after the Sens score. He gets criticized for playing DD all the time. So, I guess the solution for fans is Plekanec plays after every goal… for either team. Damned if you do, damned if you don’t

    Re the PK situation, he plays top 10 mionutes in the league for a D-man. He doesn’t play a ton on the PK, but the PK is thriving. So what is the problem. It is like this is a show ” Days of the Habs’ and let’s see what controversy we can come up with week to week.

    Final thought: Are the Habs Contenders for the Cup this season? Right now, no. They lack a 3-4 D-man who can move the puck and make plays under pressure. They also lack some toughness and grit. They happen to have Emelin and Prust on their way back. Let’s see this squad healthy and see how they look before we write their tombstone.


    • Thomas Le Fan says:

      I watch every minute of every game … until the paper bag goes on, that is. I’ve rarely been so frustrated and/or yelled **** *** at my TV so often. We, apparently, have no one other than PK, who is being mismanaged, that can put the puck in the net. Everyone’s become Desharnais. Outplaying the opponent without scoring amounts to one thing, unless you like Pyrrhic victories, … a loss. This can’t go on without a shake up. Therrien is the likeliest choice.

      There is no crying in baseball, “i” in team or “chuck” in Galchenyuk but … there is fighting in hockey.

    • halifaxhab says:

      You must be the good twin and Timo your “evil” twin

      I love Barry Manilow .

      -Scotty Bowman

  26. Bripro says:

    Most should agree that the Habs aren’t as good as last year, but not as bad as their record.
    If we drew up a quarter report, MB should be congratulated for going to get Stephane Waite.
    But what’s the use of bringing Price to form if Daigneault makes sure that he can’t see anything with the shot blocking?
    Are they afraid,that it’ll show that they are constantly outshot by a wide margin?
    Get out of the way!
    And Boone is right. If Markov is making even one or two brain-dead plays per game (Methot’s goal), what will he be like come April?
    Parros wears cement boots, DD is suited up with feathers, the two Gs are suffering from the sophomore jinx, and Max is out looking for his stride.
    Maclean is a better coach than MT, there is no denying it. But you would think that Therrien has at least enough experience to know how to counter when the opposition has just scored, and that’s not by sending out the quicksand gang.
    I believe it’s time that MB had a heart to heart with MT, otherwise this will turn out to be another long disappointing season.

  27. RAM_TOUGH says:

    Another season of Habs suck-fest. We all should be used to it by now.


  28. habsguru says:

    can we all just agree? the wallrace is a better coach.

  29. chanchilla says:

    If the TANK is on, who do the scouting experts think about drafting, Commandant any thoughts? Draisaitl looks impressive.

  30. Habs1962 says:

    That reminded me of last years playoffs.. we get 3 shots and them 1 and they score.
    we played well enough to win.. Ottawa is not a very good hockey team so it is frustrating to lose against them after staying with a very good Blues team last game.
    We bury a couple of those chances and we would be happy today!
    We certainly need more guys to the net though. Patch needs to get some points and I think he will real soon.
    I liked when we were rotating one of the rookie D men through the lineup. We need that.
    We will win 3 of the next 5 !!
    We are building for 2016 and the pieces are coming together.

    • Bob_Sacamano says:

      When you have so many players on great contracts you have to take advantage of that, especially in this weak Eastern Conference. Waiting for 2015/16 is ridiculous.

      Yes, we should be better in two or three years but a lot of other teams might be as well and Subban, Emelin, Eller, Galchenyuk and Gallagher will then make more than twice as much as they´re getting now…

  31. Mavid says:

    When I am down and out I just look at this beautiful little face and everything is wonderful again..please feel free to look at her, smile and make your day better..

    Weed Wacker Grandma Smurf

  32. J_P says:

    I really agree with a lot of the pundits out there. Michel Therrien is great at getting the team prepared to play, but he always looks lost when it comes to in-game adjustments. I find during the games that he is very often getting outcoached.

    I think the problem is the organizations misconception of what this team is. Finishing as high as we did last year made the organization believe were contenders. I dont think anyone will disagree with me, the habs are not legitimate contenders. We can be serious contenders in a few years, but its going to require patience, something which therrien is showing none of this year. The constant line juggling, the putting players in the dog house at the slightest sniff of a defensive gaff… Not very confidence inspiring for the players, especially the young ones.

    Galchenyuk has great playmaking abilities, and a bonafide sniper could certainly compliment him, but what center in the league wouldnt benefit from a bonafide sniper? Its an obvious statement. Galchenyuk has a wicked shot, and he can bury the puck himself. Galchenyuks problem to me? He looks like hes playing with zero confidence. We see flashes of brilliance here and there, but no finish. He seems like he wants to pass when he should shoot.

    Coaches wont win games for teams. That just doesnt happen. However, where good coaching makes a difference is pressing the right buttons to help players get the most out of themselves, and I just dont feel therrien does that well.

    • shiram says:

      If they thought we were a contender they would have spent more in the off-season, I figure.
      Trade prospects/picks etc..

      • J_P says:

        What free agents were available in the off-season? Would you have paid what the leafs paid for clarkson?

        Apparently management thought they were a contender because they handed $4.5 million on a multi-year deal to Briere lol

    • habsguru says:

      L Ruff made a living winning games with a bad team for years. coaches don’t score goals, but the do win the odd game.

      • J_P says:

        I totally agree. A good coach can get his players to play above their potential, or to at least play to their potential.

        Look at Patty Roy. He’s got the avalanche finally playing to their potential.

        The point I was making is that the coach cant jump on the ice and actually win the games. He needs to push the right buttons and get his players to perform.

    • rljmartin says:

      Remember, a big part of coaching is who you dress… then how you use them. CAP world does not give much flexibility but remember these important aspects to consider. I offer up Parros as an example.

  33. teamhab says:

    Let’s get Camilleri back

  34. Florida is cleaning house!

    Montreal Canadiens send Andre Markov and the their 2014 first round pick to Florida for Jonathan Huberdeau,wishful thinking for a future sniper.

    Shane Oliver
    Twitter @Sholi2000
    Custom Sports Figures
    Summit Member

    • Stevie.Ray says:

      They’re a team full of decent 2nd and third liners. Fleischmann, Kopecky, Bjugstad, Versteeg, Gomez… but Huberdeau would be the gem.

      And then there is Gudbranson on D Who I believe is a big Habs fan. He would look nice next to Emelin on the second pairing.

      They should clean house and bring in as many draft picks as possible.

      • I posted on emotion. There’s no way the Habs can trade Markov. He’s not replaceable right now. I just want to look forward and see an 50 goal scored somewhere, and those guys are only had one way…….”The Montreal Canadiens are proud to select from the Erie Otters, Connar McDavid”. And that’s two years from now 🙂

        Shane Oliver
        Twitter @Sholi2000
        Custom Sports Figures
        Summit Member

    • boing007 says:

      Huberbeau and Galchenyuk. Dynamite.
      Even better would be a fire sale of the Panthers. Dissolve them and spread the wealth around.

      Richard R

  35. haberman says:

    Kevin Dineen fired in Florida. is MT next?

  36. Kooch7800 says:

    Tough loss last night but fans brace yourself for a dogfight season in which we may not make the playoffs.

    Parros, he sucks. He isn’t worth playing and as soon as Prust is back he won’t be unless we are playing certain teams.

    We need more offense in a bad way. What happened to Lars Eller? Guy has been invisible for the last 7 or 8 games. he was on fire then vanished and this seems to happen every year for stretches. If he doesn’t get more consistent I think he may be a better 3rd line centre than a 2nd line one. I don’t think he is going to be in for a big a raise as everyone thought. He probably won’t crack 50 points this year. I think he has use and is good but he really needs to get some consistency in his game.

    Max also seems to be struggling out there.

    We need to get some help up front or we will be in trouble

    “Keep your stick on the Ice”

    • CalgaryHab says:

      Max used to have an edge to his play when he first came up. Unfortunately Chara’s attempted murder and his multiple injury recoveries seem to have taken the edge away.

      • Kooch7800 says:

        Max is still quick but his production isn’t there this year and yes his edge seems to be gone a bit. Hopefully he regains some of it soon!

        He is not our only forward struggling though

        “Keep your stick on the Ice”

    • shiram says:

      I’ll give Max a pass for now, he’s back form injury, but I doubt he is 100%.
      As for Eller I think he is getting alot more scrutiny and tougher matchups, it does not help that he is playing with 2 rookies that are not known to be 2-way players.
      I’d break that line up, they need more of a veteran presence with them.

    • Bob_Sacamano says:

      Why wait for Prust to get Parros out of the lineup? Completely unnecessary.

      What happened to Eller? Did you even watch the game? There were at least half a dozen occasions yesterday where he could have scored/picked up an assist. The best probably where Galchenyuk in the end was all alone against Lehner. Once Gallagher had an open net but didn´t get the rebound and so on.

      He´s just been really unlucky lately but that will change soon when he keeps playing like yesterday or against the Blues.

      I also wouldn´t worry about Pacioretty. I hope he stays on a line with Plekanec. Eller-Pacioretty shorthanded or 4-4 btw is a combination I really like. Also only a matter of time until they score some goals in these situations.

  37. shiram says:

    I thought the Habs had a great start, but they slowed down when the Sens scored their first one, and they never got back to putting as much pressure on the Sens.
    They played about 20 minutes once again.

    DD was a non-factor, although he tried going to the net, it’s just not the thing for him, he’s not going to out muscle people for the puck there.
    Eller is the only player on his line that can play a 2-way game and it hurts the line when they are not played in an exploitation role.
    I’d swap one of the wingers and try them with a veteran.

    It would also be interesting to see Patches/Pleks/Bourque as a first line.

    We dearly need Prust and Emelin back in the lineup.
    We’re also missing a sniper… even if he was streaky, Ryder could put the puck in the net, and he would have been better and cheaper than Brière.

    And even though the team had success winning draws earlier on, it seems they are back to their old habits, and on the wrong side of 50% on the draws.

    But them special teams, about the only bright point, makes one not care about Subban not getting any PK.

    • Kooch7800 says:

      I agree Shiram. We need a sniper in a bad way. Ryder would have been much better than Briere and I am not a Ryder fan. We need a shooter. Some of the moves MB has made have me scratching my head a bit.

      MT isn’t a great coach but I am not convinced we have the horses up front to provide enough offense. We will need to trade for a shooter and maybe have to give up one of our D prospects

      “Keep your stick on the Ice”

  38. JM says:

    Look at it what ever way you want these two lines should be put together it’s all we have …



    Pacioretty and Bourque with a good center would make a decent 3rd line. MB give up something to get one so as we will have a decent team to watch. We’re not expecting a Stanley cup and if MT doesn’t like it replace him while your at it ….

    • Kooch7800 says:

      Max and Eller didn’t look bad together either actually.

      Those lines you put together could be a worth a shot but no matter how you slice it we need another good shooter on the top 6.

      Could you imagine a line with Chucky at centre and Gallagher and a true shooter like Cammy or Ryan. That would be awesome

      “Keep your stick on the Ice”

  39. Mick says:

    The glass is half empty or half full?
    I like this team and when all the spare parts fall off and are replaced with new ones, we will be close to contending with teams like the blues.
    I think we have a team that is building for the future and for those who think we are winning the cup soon, think again.
    We lost again, are you really surprised?
    My glass is half full. But, I would sit or trade DD. Therrien, You can’t fix “stupid”.

  40. twilighthours says:

    Lots of opinions from frustrated fans today. Here’s one cool headed observation:

    George parros is not a good enough hockey player to play in the nhl. And therrien’s use of him has been detrimental to the team.

    • shiram says:

      What good is a player playing under 3 minutes a game?
      That must have a hell of an intimidating 3 minutes for it to be any worth.

    • Eddie says:

      Yup. Look for him to sit out many games in the press box.

    • Luke says:

      Remember last year (and this year) when all those goons kept popping up on waivers?

      This is why.

    • Ozmodiar says:

      Yup. Time to let him go.

    • rmf52846 says:

      If you’re looking for a bounce back shift after a goal against, why on earth do you put your forth line on the ice? I really think MT blew this one, they just never were able to overcome the two goal deficit. I like some parts of the team, but boy, there are some big gaps to fill..still it’s a work in progress, it takes time.

    • frontenac1 says:

      Last year the Sens beat us on the score board and beat us brutally in the alley. This year they only beat us on the scoreboard. Parros is in the line up this year ,Last year we had no one. Now if our Goal scorers would do their job………

      • Mavid says:

        agree…just having him on the bench is a deterrent for the likes of cement head Neil..notice how he behaved himself all night..if there is one thing Neil is good at is picking his battles..

        Weed Wacker Grandma Smurf

      • Luke says:

        Five games played. 4 minutes per game. Five goals against.

        Two of his five fights he started occured while the Habs had a scoring chance (PK’s end to end rush) or were actually scoring a goal.
        One of his fights ended in him unconscious on the ice.

        The Sens, obviously intimidated by Parros, manhandled Gallagher all night long. Before Parros took shifts and after Parros took shifts. They obvisously weren’t worried about Parros. In fact, they were probably hoping to see him on the ice more.

        Now, I am not saying Parros is 100% responsible for the 5 losses in the 5 games he’s played. But he hasn’t contributed anything to help the team win, and has been directly responsible for events that contributed to the losses.

        Yes, the scorers need to score more. But when the other goalie does his job well, we don’t need our guy making it more difficult for the scorers.

        • frontenac1 says:

          How can Parros deal with the liberties that teams are taking with Gally when he is on the bench? Normally Prust will handle that. Like I said Parros is paid $900k to fight. The first game of the year he played well in his 4th line roll with Moen and White, until he face planted. The 4th line is currently a mess and MT misusing him does not help. I agree with Boone,9 Goals in 11 games , 34 shots on Lehner and he sees everyone of them? Put Parros in front of the Net for some Blue Paint time!

          • Luke says:

            Did this change suddenly? Now having a guy like Parros means he has to be on the ice while the “liberties are being taken” to be effective?
            Shouldn’t he have just grabbed a guy on his next shift and made him pay for taking liberties with Gallagher? Isn’t that his role?

            Man, the other team already takes enough liberties with parros on the ice… they just take them with Price & Budaj’s GAA.

          • boing007 says:

            For years the Habs have been reluctant to put big bodies in front of the net on the power play. What’s up with that? Ciccarelli was a master at that game.

            Richard R

  41. Eddie says:

    Bergevin made 4 critical mistakes, and coincidentally, they all center around the notion that the Habs must please their Francophone base.

    Therrien, Desharnais, Bouillon, Briere

    I would have no problem substituting all 4 with four other Francophones. No problem at all.

    But these 4 were all wrong.

    • slamtherimtim says:

      the problem with MB making these mistakes and others , is he is not willing to correct a mistake hes made as of yet , there is never an issue with making a mistake but not correcting any is the bigger problem , he make a descions and sticks with it no matter what , he needs a little bit more of an open mind , i think anyways

    • oldoldskater says:

      I agree, it has always been said, that to play in the NHL you have to be able to skate very well…nothing against Parros, but he does not belong there

      I think Bouillon is holding his own

    • Sportfan says:

      I think one day when the the fan base that thinks having a team full of francophones matters stops and thinks that it isn’t important anymore is the day the team can focus on the best possible players.

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    • Arrow77 says:

      I don’t think anyone on that list (except the coach) is there to please the francophone base. In fact, the situation of Desharnais is exactly the same that we had to suffer through with Gomez: he’s paid a stupid amount of money so we keep playing him in the hope we get some of our investment back.

      And I think that Bergevin made a lot more than 4 critical mistakes. In my mind Brandon Prust is the only real good move he’s made. I would even argue that for all his flaws, Francis Bouillon is his second best acquisition. He’s old but he’s a solid 6th or 7th defensemen. The rest – Parros, Briere, Murray, Armstrong – are or were all almost completely useless to the team. If Timmins choices hadn’t pan out, we’d be in big trouble right now.

    • VancouverHab says:


  42. habsguru says:

    think PK could play forward?

  43. CalgaryHab says:

    So if Boone has moments where he misses JM (I agree) does he have moments when he misses PG?

    Depressing thoughts….

  44. frontenac1 says:

    Report: Panthers fire coach Kevin Dineen and Staff. Can he speak french?

  45. JM says:

    Just think if we had 8-more Gallaghers this team would be so far ahead in the standings the other 29-teams wouldn’t have a chance.

  46. scotland says:

    per dollar dd and gionta are the most over paid habs since gomez. and both are way too easy to play against.

    parros has not been made to feel is any real part of a “team”

    therrien needs replaced.

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