About last night …

EllerEdm

“They take a lot risks, a lot of chances,” Eller said. “They’re a little all over the place. There’s not a lot of structure always in their game.”
In his comments after Edmonton’s 4-3 win, Eakins called out Eller by name, suggesting strongly that young players should keep their mouths shut.
“When you have a player like Lars Eller running his mouth before the game, it makes for great banter in our dressing room and great motivation,” Eakins said. “So, we thank Lars Eller for his comments before the game. Awesome.”
The children-should-be-seen-and-not-heard view was echoed by Canadiens coach Michel Therrien.
“He’s a young player, and he’ll learn from it,” Therrien said. “They were inappropriate comments.”
So scratch Lars Eller as a source of interesting information.
He’ll be guarded in his remarks for the rest of the season … maybe for the rest of his career.

If Eller were speaking candidly, he might want to ask Eakins why his grievously insulted Oilers – who surely knew about the inflammatory “junior team” quote before the puck was dropped – were outshot 14-8, outhit 11-9 and lost 15 of 18 faceoffs in the first period.

Perhaps with his team trailing 2-0 after 20 minutes, Eakins stormed into the room and roared: “You’re playing like Lars (expletive deleted) Eller says you do.”

Eller might want to ask his own coach why the Canadiens have blown 2-0 and 3-0 leads against Edmonton and Columbus, respectively.

And why they suck in the second period this season – outscored 9-6 and outshot in seven of nine games.

Even in their best games this season, the wins in Vancouver and Winnipeg, the Canadiens have taken their foot off the gas pedal after 20 minutes. They got away with it against the Blue Jackets, but the lapse was costly on Tuesday night.

Given life when Ales Hemsky was left shockingly unmarked and beat Carey Price from a sweet spot in the slot, the Oilers added three unanswered goals and outshot the home team 24-18 over the final 40 minutes. The Oilers also outhit the Canadiens 23-14 over the final two periods.

The Canadiens were leading 2-0 midway through the second period when, during a TV timeout, the scoreboard flashed a shot of Roman Hamrlik in the stands. The Bell Centre crowd gave the veteran defenceman, who announced his retirement this week, a warm and sustained ovation.

As well they should. Hamrlik gave the the Canadiens yeoman service, particularly during Andrei Markov’s prolonged absences.

There were times, as the energetic Oilers buzzed around Price’s net, when the Canadiens could have used good ol’ number 44 to steady the defence corps … and I don’t mean Davis Drewiske.

P.K. Subban was on the ice for six goals – three by the Canadiens and three by Edmonton. The Oilers were not as successful as Nashville in containing P.K. who, as usual, made enough superhuman plays to fill a highlight reel and lift the spirits of Bell Centre fans who wonder why it costs $150 to watch Travis Moen.

Once again, Francis Bouillon had to play unreasonable minutes: 16:48. Hamrlik used to play upwards of 26 minutes when Markov was out, but the Bull is not a Hammer. Bouillon ended the night as the only Canadien at minus-2.

To be fair, the Canadiens didn’t lose because of Francis Bouillon … or Lars Eller. The latter took some big hits from vengeful Oilers and still led all Canadiens forwards in ToI, at 19:13, while dishing out a couple solid checks of his own and winning 12 of 16 faceoffs.

The new line of Tomas Plekanec, Brian Gionta and rookie Michaël Bournival had 12 of the Canadiens’ 32 shots. But Pleks and Gionta were on the ice for the Jeff Petry and Ryan Jones goals that put Edmonton in front to stay.

Ryan White was a monster on draws, 10-2. He and rookie Patrick Holland, playing his first NHL game, were effective as fourth liners and penalty-killers.

Brendan Gallagher scored his fifth goal. He’s tied with Phil Kessel, Pavel Datsyuk, Steven Stamkos, Evander Kane, Jeff Carter, James van Riemsdyk and Corey Perry – none of whom endure the physical pounding to which Gallagher is subjected by Edmonton and every other team the Canadiens face.

Alex Galchenyuk was on the ice for the Ladislav Smid and Jeff Petry goals that got Edmonton back into the game. He had some sweet moves in the offensive zone, but the kid gets lost from time to time in his own end. Blame it on his youth. Galchenyuk will get better.

Will David Desharnais get better? Not on the evidence of this game. DD’s confidence is at such a low ebb that even his passes have become tentative and erratic. It’s so bad that Desharnais is messing up Rene Bourque – something the winger is capable of doing on his own.

Until Tuesday night, the Canadiens had not lost consecutive games this season.

Next up is the emotional return of Saku Koivu in an Anaheim jersey on Thursday and – gulp! – the San Jose Sharks on Saturday.

 

 

 

345 Comments

  1. habssince1909 says:

    If the Habs would have won last night, everyone would be lauding Lars Eller…lesson learned, he won’t be doing this again anytime soon. Live and learn.

  2. chemic says:

    bitch slapped by a junior team, thx Lars for the laughs!

    MT should turn his three step making person better program towards Eller. seriously what was he thinking? he should talking trash on the ice right in their face instead of talking to the press. public stuff like this has always a nasty backslash and it looks really bad on the team itself.

    the outlook for a really nasty week skyrocket after that game. but hey there is some hope, habs always play better than expected against really good teams.

  3. olematelot says:

    This place never changes after a loss. Same guys posting the same negative tripe.

    • Ron in Ottawa says:

      I don’t want to start yelling dump MT this early but… seems to me he is starting to look lost back there. last year he was very animated- a big welcome change after years of the passive JM. But last night as the Oilers were making changes and stepping up their game, MT was hunched over the bench head in hands looking lost. Maybe this was not a great hire. Too early to start the revolving door again but….

      • J_P says:

        He was always a bad hire, from the day he was hired. Ive been consistent in saying that since he was hired lol Hes the type of guy that you would use to patch and band-aid. He can get some short term results, but in the long run he’s just not a good coach.

        Guy Boucher is free last I checked. Sure he sucked in tampa, but Steve Yzerman is probably the worst GM in the league. Sure, Yzerman can pick from the deepest hockey talent pool in the world to build a gold medal winning olympic team, but unfortunately for him, managing a salary-capped NHL team isnt the same thing.

        Ive always wanted guy boucher for this organization, and I still want him running this team now. Im confident that with real defense, and a real goaltender (the lightning had neither during his tenure), he can make a real difference for the habs.

  4. jamman says:

    Ahh the pain of last nights loss has receded, I was looking forward to coming into work and yelling to my buddy (I do this from time to time) as he tries to concentrate on something: Brennndan Gallagher! Brennndan Gallagher! Brennndan Gallagher! Top 5 goal scored for Gallagher all time no doubt

  5. sweetmad says:

    I am not worried about our team,it’s still very early in the season,we have a lot of injuries,and there is a long way to go.
    As for what Lars said,it’s a joke, any coach who has to use,what another player from another team said,to motivate his team,is a bad coach.Not the best thing for Lars to say,but it was true and Lars tells it like he sees it,I have no problem with that,but MT should stand behind his players.

    The problem we have at the moment is depth on forward,BG and PG,only ever seemed to draft D men except for LL,thats why we have a lot of young Dmen nearly ready to join the big club and no forwards,all our young forwards are still in junior,maybe they will suprise us and be ready next year.

    Talk about throwing people under the bus,we criticise,every one else for doing this, but the fans are the worst cuprits of all,at doing this.
    GO HABS GO

  6. frontenac1 says:

    Good to see Hamr get the Ovation.Did you see that Fine Looking Lady he was with last night? I think he is enjoying retirement.

  7. Cal says:

    Beaulieu the Lost stays and Tinordi the formidable goes? One third of the team out due to injuries?
    Do I hear the rusty squealing of tank treads?

  8. DipsyDoodler says:

    We’re only three players from being top tier.

    A sniper.

    A gritty 3rd liner who plays first wave on the PK, and can move up to the top 6 when needed.

    A tough physical d-man.

    Did you see what I did there?

  9. jeffhabfan says:

    Not a good way to lose but you have to play 60 minutes if you want to win the game.I hear that teams are looking to make trades I wonder if we are trying to improve our team right now. One thing that bugs me is how bad we look when we lose .

  10. reddog24 says:

    Well we were almost ran out of town by a young talent laden team they seldom use toughness but when they did we skated away like we were scared. Moen was ready to answer the bell but he is a middle weight at best and probably would have been beaten but at least he showed gut to try. This team is going NOWHERE without some tougher push back players. The young lads are going to be all hurt unless we act fast. Go out and get someone who at least makes an attempt to defend are players. The last 2 games have had Gorges, Briere, Gally all hit hard with NO push back. Are young talent that we have are going to be ruined here in Montreal and management does nothing. I know a couple of are fighters are injured but get others as the young guns are going to leave watch PK, he might just get fed up.

  11. DipsyDoodler says:

    Has Hamr been keeping up his cardio?

    Just wondering…

  12. frankcasting says:

    OMG, the defence that was abysmal last night, especially the bizarre pairing of PK and Bulldung, is now without Tinordi. A triple WTF. A game like that, without Tinordi in the lineup, and he gets the boot. We have NO toughness anywhere, nobody who can clear the front of the net, and this is the “brain” trust’s decision. Bring back Cunneyworth while you’re at it, Bergie, it’s gonna be a long fricken year.

    Loving the Habs since 1965

    • Stevie.Ray says:

      Overreacting. If he never gets called back up then you can be upset, but “chillout”

    • Timo says:

      I had to laugh watching Diaz last night (while choking up tears). Every time he got a puck he looked like a pug dog, with his eyes about to pop out of their orbits, intensely swiveling his head left and right with the “HOLY F$#%^, what do I do, what do I do?” look on his face then just sending the puck out of his zone for a prompt turn over.

      • TheDagger says:

        I disagree… watching Diazplay he knows exactly what he is to do: poke wildly at the puck with one hand on the stick while getting smashed into the boards with little to no effort by the opposing player. Every. Time.

  13. frontenac1 says:

    In the post game presser MT said “We got off the game plan after the 1st” Maybe Eakins adjusted his in the 2nd like most coaches have against us this year. I am agreeing with Burly that maybe MT can’t make adjustments during the game. Sure beginning to look that way. Saludos!

  14. Chris says:

    The funny thing about Eakins’ outrage is that even Oilers fans feel that their team plays like a junior team.

    They’ve got an embarassment of riches in terms of forwards. Yet they play shinny instead of hockey. There is no way that the Oilers should be where they are in the standings. And Eller was absolutely right…you have no idea what you are going to get from shift to shift, let alone game to game, from that team.

    Nobody questions that the Oilers are talented. Yet they still seem to be unable to figure out how to play hockey. They will score some nice goals and then immediately throw away the points by some tyke-level defensive play.

    I’ve always found the need for bulletin board material to be somewhat trite. The sad thing is that people so commonly chide players for being automatons (you just have to go out there and give it 110%, play good two-way hockey, finish your checks, and compete all over the ice) in interviews, yet the tendency is to jump on any player who speaks in anything but the age-old cliches. The cliche is a defence mechanism for athletes…if they go off that well-scripted path, somebody is waiting to pounce.

    Eakins shouldn’t need Lars Eller as a motivational tool. He can grab pretty much any article or column about the state of the Oilers, as the team is almost universally derided in hockey circles.

  15. sweetmad says:

    Has anyone reported Tinardi down to the DOGS,just seen it on TSN,perhaps Murry is due to come back.

  16. habs-hampton says:

    Tinordi sent down. I’m shocked. Does this mean Beaulieu stays? He’s not ready. Is Murray ready to go? Mybe bring up Pateryn?

    • Stevie.Ray says:

      Most likely scenario is that they are giving a Beaulieu a break from having to go up and down all of the time, and they decided to give Tinordi some time down in Hamilton. Maybe simply just to get used to be able to get in some practices so that he knows their system in case once Murray is back and Tinordi finds himself as the odd man out, he can be somewhat more comfortable if he is returned to Hamilton.

      But I think it is mainly to give Beaulieu a break. Tinordi may be be called back up for next game like Beaulieu was

  17. shiram says:

    Fighting is definitely on it’s way out in the League.
    Last night set a precedent, with the linesman intervening between Moen and Gadzic.
    You’re either going to punch visors or you’re not going to fight, that’s the way the things will unfold over time.

    http://www.tsn.ca/blogs/darren_dreger/?id=434817

    • Odie24 says:

      The rule is, if the helmets come off, and the linesman has time to step in, they are instructed to do so. If they want to fight with the helmets off, then they better go at it immediately.

      • shiram says:

        It will be a circus for a while, with players trying to skirt the rules so they can fight, but I think the League is set in their way and won’t back down.
        They wanna protect heads, and they figure removing/changing fighting is one easy way to do it.

    • habs-hampton says:

      Funny. You have to leave your helmet on to protect your head, while you try to knock the other guy out by repeatedly hitting him the head with your fist!

      I’m not pro or anti fighting, but NHL, make up your mind. Are you going to protect players from themselves or not? If not, then back off and let them go at it (visor, helmet or neither).

  18. frontenac1 says:

    Hockey 101. Don’t say anything to give the other team motivation. Coaching101.Dont publicly throw your player under the Bus for doing that.

  19. Ali says:

    Tinordi sent down. Not impressed with how the coaching staff has handled the development of the younger defense.

    On the other hand they’ve done a good job with the Gallys, sheltering their minutes, offensive zone starts, etc. Makes me wonder what wouldv’e been if Larry Robinson had been the defensive coach instead of JJ

    • Luke says:

      Perhaps its harder to shelter a D man than a forward?

      Maybe Tinordi isn’t as ready as Gallagher and Galchenyuk.

      To be honest though, I’d have used Tinordi more. Possibly with Beaulieu in the lineup as well.

      Platooning them isn’t the worst, but neither is letting them play in Hamilton.

    • SUMO says:

      Disappointing. Therrien did a good job with our young forwards Galchenyuk, Gallager, Eller and recently with Bournival but he an Daigneaults handling of Tinordi is puzzling. He made the team based on his physical play and because of Emelins injury yet they didn’t play him.

      • Mattyleg says:

        He wasn’t physical, though.
        He was too worried about making a mistake.
        He hardly made any decent hits, didn’t get his body down on the ice to block shots, and didn’t get nasty in front of the net.

        That’s what we need him for.

        Otherwise he’s just Ryan O’Byrne.

        —Hope Springs Eternal—

  20. 123456 says:

    Couple things:

    1) I didn’t see the first period, but generally speaking you do NOT fight when you are winning by 2 goals – why give the other team any chance for momentum. If it’s a shot on one of you rplayers you do the same to one of theirs in the next shift.

    2) Complain all you want about MG and MT but you can’t just sign 12 superstar forwards and 6 superstar Dmen. In general this team has been built well the past 2 years. The only horrible move I have seen is Briere and if he ends the season (big IF) with 50 points was it really a bad signing?

    3) Dmen are tough to find. Habs have 2 solid Dmen (PK and Marky) and I did not expect much from Marky before the season. Georges and Frankie have been disappointing.

    4) Price has been great.

    5) Didn’t we all know the Habs are a 6-10 seed? Basically like almost every other team you get what you work for – as you see the Habs stop working the goals against pile up. It’s really as simple as working hard every game, period, shift second!!

  21. habstrinifan says:

    I came to the board this morning in an EFFU frame of mind. And no you dont have to read another word. This is my own personal vent.. shouting uselessly from an open window.
    For all those so inclined to throw the troll acid in my face …. well my retort starts with an F.

    I know now that I WILL not see another great MTL team before the guy with the bony digits and the gaunt look comes and taps me of the shoulders. So I dont care to be polite anymore.

    How did I know that our freakin great coach MT would use his pulpit to take a shot at Lars Eller. Of course. Of course Eller is to blame.

    Here’s Boone’s quote from Therrien.“He’s a young player, and he’ll learn from it,” Therrien said. “They were inappropriate comments.”

    So there you have it. I dont have to go read MT’s entire remarks to ‘put it in context’ as some of you would insist I do. It is so freakin typical.

    This is the MT who had nightmares because his team played an entertaining and skillful game against Columbus.. so entertaining that although he admitted “it was a great game for the fans, he found it to be a “nightmare” for him. He must have laid down the law. As RDS reported he decided to imprint his stamp forecefully on the team after that game.

    Well he must be sleeping freakin well last few nights. No nightmares !
    Not one of those shallow fans fans (who surely have not the hockey acumen of the strategist MT) went home ‘entertained’ after the last two games.

    And now he gets to wash his hands off the entire stuff and put Eller smack dab in the target’s bullseye.

    Merrily merrily our HABS go on … in the caboose of decorous mediocrity. While we hear the outrageous celebration and passion of a former HAB who said that he remembered in his playing days when the fans were so excited about the aggressive and offensive style of their team.. how they were ‘entertained’ by the skillful artistry of hockey. And so he has decided to coach that way.

    He better keep the noise down though, cause Mt is sleeping ‘nightmare-less’ in the caboose bring up the rear.

    Mark that game against Columbus down folks. And mark MT’s response to it. And his determination to stamp out such recklessness. It will determine the HABS future longer than his tenure.

    We now have the team the coach wants. As one poster wrote during last night’s game. Give the opponents the blueline… dont be reckless.

    • shiram says:

      I hate Therrien too, and I think the players will have a similar feeling pretty soon unless things get turned around.
      Last season he seemed a bit more cool, more casual, this time around he seems to be back to biting heads off…

      • habstrinifan says:

        He was cool and a ‘thinking coach’ early in the season. I wrote that he was almost a renaissance coach. But as the season dragge don he became quite clueless (in my opiniion). When the team started to falter and especially when our PP (which had been on of if not the main reason for our success) went south Therrien had no answers. In fact despite the ‘swoon’ staring him directly in the face, Therrien pronounced that the TEAM was ready for the plays offs… no worries. Well they WERE NOT FREAKIN ready. They had no answers. And some would cite injuries. Just as there were injuries last night. But really only two of our injure dplayers can be considered determinant factors in our game style… and the Oilers are not the a juggerhead.
        But of course they had that piece of motivational kryptonite… Eller’s remarks. Poor MT. How could he be expected to have a response for a team aremed with bulletin board material.

    • Timo says:

      Good one, Trini. I loved your rant.

    • Cal says:

      Hey trini, you couldn’t have expected the Habs (as they are right now) to be all that good. MT is looking more and more like a caretaker until a 21st century coach can be found.
      The man can’t adjust between periods and his vets appear to have stopped listening.

      • habstrinifan says:

        All I know I was freakin wrong on Patrick Roy. And you know why I was wrong. Because I was SCARED. Scared of a kick arse coach. Scared of seeing all hell break loose behind the bench once or twice. But forgetting how into being the freakin best Patrick Roy was. And how not allowing grace and politeness to get in the way of an EFFU twinkle in a wink to some punk-nose opponent. Come and get me was his style. What’s ours now?

        That’s our style now.. and we the fans have grown into it. We are freakin scared of being hell-raisers.

  22. JM says:

    fontenac1 has the right answer to what happened to the Habs last night and we’ll see more of this before the season is over. Lot of tough teams out there after the big prize and we’re not one of them!!

  23. adamkennelly says:

    Moen would have been destroyed by Gadzic….think MB was watching – maybe, just maybe – considering doing something about the fact that our team is going to be playing the next dozen games with Ryan White as our toughest player…

  24. Ton says:

    We have a very green general manager! we need to accept this! he too is learning on the job!

  25. HardHabits says:

    The thing is, you are not going to be tougher by signing the likes of Parros or Laraque. You get tougher by not having 2 forwards at 5’7”, two forwards at 5’9″ and two forwards at 5’11”, not to mention a defence man that is 5’8″.

    On that list you keep Gallagher and Plekanec. If you want Bournival you trade Plex. The Habs are not gritty enough to survive this league let alone the play-offs. It’s that simple.

    • doc359 says:

      Any team should have room for Bournival, Plex, and Gally. They are all quality hockey players.

      Briere and DD can go, but not cause they are small. Small has nothing to do with not playing good hockey.

      I haven’t seen anything from Gionta that makes me want to get rid of him. He plays some awesome 2-way hockey. He may end up leaving if MB wants to make him trade bait while looking at the future, but I hope not.

      As for Cube, he plays like a guy twice his size and isn’t a bad defensemen, he just shouldn’t be having to deal with the minutes he currently is dealing with. Hopefully Emelin coming back fixes that issue, or who knows, maybe one of the Rookies will improve and push for more minutes, but right now neither Tinordi or Nate B are good enough to play above 10 min a game. Thats not a knock of them, they are just rookies and can’t handle it.

      • HardHabits says:

        That’s not my point. Individually all those players are adequate. Collectively that aren’t. It’s that simple. The team needs more balance. As it stands they are bottom light with too many small players.

  26. JM says:

    Gotta quit whining. we’re the softest team in the league and the other 29 teams know it. when they want to beat us they get tough and that’s when we quit and they collect the 2-points.

    Management will never learn. Still drafting small players and that doesn’t work in todays NHL. One or two you can get away with after that you had better be big and tough especially if you ever want to win a Stanley cup. That’s when the tough Guys really get going,

    Edmonton didn’t forget the loss at home against us and it was pay back time and they did just that. another thing. If things are said about the team you are facing in the dressing room. Be ready to pay the fiddler!!

  27. DipsyDoodler says:

    OK seriously (I mean it). We all talk about cap space. We gained cap space when we traded Cole for Ryder (should’ve kept him by the way), but what have we done with that cap space?

    Is there an example of a team that was hampered by lack of cap space? I mean a contender that had to trade or let go some desirable player(s) because of cap issues?

    Because the only example I can think of is Chicago who had to let Versteeg, Byfuglien and someone else go after their cup win.

    And that was because of a book keeping error AND it didn’t stop them winning another cup.

    So basically the whole cap space issue is a sham.

    • Mattyleg says:

      Thank you.

      —Hope Springs Eternal—

    • HabinBurlington says:

      You make a good point, every year we see teams sign players to what seem like outrageous contracts yet those teams still find their way around them.

      An example is the bitching about Leafs overpaying Clarkson, yes perhaps too much money, perhaps too much term, but as long as they fit under the cap, they have a nice player to compliment the team.

      While I am not a big fan of DD, his cap hit will not be what dooms this team. There will be a way around it, our problem is our current lack of depth and many key positions.

  28. bellcentre hotdog says:

    9 games into the season here’s some numbers to ponder:

    David Desharnais 9Gp 1A $3.5 million

    Brian Gionta 8GP 2G 2A $5 million

    Daniel Briere 8GP 1G 2A $4 million

    Having 3 NHL forwards whose combined height equals Zdeno Chara … priceless.

  29. sackabooboo says:

    Can’t beleive that there is even a concern about what Lars said. Actions speak louder than words. He was right. They are the equivalent to a junior team. And we lost to them. If we don’t have a team that can respond to a push from the brutal Oilers, then we are not a good team.
    Bergevin has made some good moves, but the signings of Briere and Desharnais were brutal.

    _______________________________________________________
    Let’s trade Price…been a long time since the Habs have been fleeced….I miss it.

    • Timo says:

      Me too. I think it’s BS. I also think that Lars finds it awesome that he was thrown under the bus by Therrien in the press conference. Therrien is such an asshole. I can’t believe how little support the two players that carry this effing team get from him. I can’t wait for the day he is sacked. Him and Bergevin.

      • Mattyleg says:

        Damn! Again!

        (thumps side of laptop)

        —Hope Springs Eternal—

      • Ton says:

        dearest timo

        whom would you recommend as the management team for the our beloved habs?

        • HabinBurlington says:

          “Someone new” I am guessing…. and when those somebodies are hired, they too should be replaced by “Someone else” and so it will continue…..

          • Mustang says:

            Burly, sounds like typical logic employed by some here at HIO on a regular basis, especially after a loss.

        • Timo says:

          So I guess the current management team should stay on the subject that Timo is not aware who else is there that would qualify. What is this obssession with defending a crappy management? It’s not like Bergevin assumed the reigns last night or last week. He’s been there for year and a half. But sure, let’s wait another 5 years just so that you all finally realize that Bergevin is leading the Habs nowhere and THEN make another change. What else have we got but time.

          • Luke says:

            A whole year and half? Holy poop. How could he have not rebuilt an NHL team in that huge amount of time! It’s a year AND a half.

            He’s even had ONE draft already! That’s like adding 7 whole players to the lineup. and you know what? NONE of them have even played a game this year. FAIL. Those guys should all be established stars. Especially Fucale. Total BUSTS. The lot of them.

            Pathetic. Waste of a year and a half. Just Pathetic…

      • boing007 says:

        Hear! Hear! It’s time for Marc Bergevin to issue a Mea Culpa. Signing DD and DB was a big booboo. Sitting on his hands will not make the problem go away. MT’s got an ego problem and doesn’t know how to protect his players.

        Richard R

    • habs-hampton says:

      As I said earlier, if that’s all it take to get the Oilers playing well, they should fire their coach. Complete BS.

  30. Maksimir says:

    Lot of moaning and groaning going on… I figure we need to put expectations on ice until MaxPac/Emelin/Murray/Parros are back in the lineup. Its then that we’ll really see the team that MB envisioned on ice and how it performs. Well… with the exclusion of Briere who was a gamble at best.

    If those four can get back in, and other core components stay healthy, then pass judgement on MB. Not saying I fully support his record (see DD, Briere) but I’m willing to give him a chance. I’ll really be critical of how this team looks by the end of next season and beginning of the following. Gainey/Gauth left this team in shambles (aside from Emelin) its going to take more than a half lockout season to turn things around.

    • Maksimir says:

      And by the way – I’d be surprised if Gionta is a Hab after the trade deadline.

    • Timo says:

      Well, the injuries will always be there. Point is that even when Habs get a few bruisers back (a 4th lines and a dman) as a team they are still soff. They are and they will be until there is no more Plekanec, Gionta, Briere, DD, Bourque, and Diaz. Size in itself is not an issue. I would readily replace all of the aforementioned stiffs with Gallaghers. Can you imagine if Plekanec played like Gallagher?

    • 4loorplay says:

      Hmmm a die hard fan. So am I. All injuries a-side. Last 2 games should have been 3 or 4 points but ended up 0. Carey price “i have not been a fan of him” but I have seen or believe to see a vast improvement this year on his play ( could be smaller pads make him quicker or mental adjustments) He has kept us in every game and stole 1 or 2. Beside’s Markov and subban we very week on D. Tinordi has to be let loose to bang even if it means he makes mistakes. He has to bulk up his frame and give that 1-2 big time hits a game and i mean the ones that can put him in the box….get my drift? “Think Emilin”. Now
      we are not a cup runner by FAR…. we can be a team that makes playoffs but every company has a boss and ours is MT..a manager of production so to speak. HERE IS WHERE WE LACK BIG TIME….Do any of you really believe that Lars Eller would say what he said before yesterdays game unless a coach told the room ” the team you are playing tonight is a triple A team so I dont see how you can lose 2 points here…but be careful…..JUST A THOUGHT.

      Nirvana is earned…

  31. frontenac1 says:

    @gmur.Agreed amigo.Moen did the right thing and the Refs did the wrong thing in jumping in. Glad to hear the Bell Centre fans let them know it too.Saludos!

  32. Timo says:

    This is not part of Marc Bergevin’s “character”. His character means get pound into the board and then get pounded again. Gorges exemplifies such character the best.

  33. frontenac1 says:

    Jeesh! Bitch Slapped by the softest team in the West! , No physicality,no Nasty. The Oilers had open ice in 2nd and 3rd. Nobody ran Nuge,Eberle or Hemsky all night?

  34. gmur says:

    Ticked me off to see a goon go after Gallagher. Moen did the right thing, but if I were sitting on the bench, I’d go get in Yakupov’s face next draw.


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