About last night …

EllerEdmonton

Galchenyuk has points in all four games the Canadiens have played this season.

He scored his first goal of 2013-’14 in the 4-1 win over Edmonton  and added an assist, bringing his total to six – tied with Henrik Sedin for the league lead.

Galchenyuk was the third overall choice in the 2012 draft. Canadiens fans can be grateful that Scott Howson was still the general manager in Columbus.

With the second pick that June, the Blue Jackets took defenceman Ryan Murray. Had their current GM, Jarmo Kekalainen, been in charge, Columbus almost certainly would have drafted Galchenyuk.

So the Canadiens caught a break there. And they landed a special player whom the team brought along slowly through his rookie season.

Galchenyuk still isn’t playing his natural position. The defensive responsibilities of a centre may be a bridge still too far for a kid who won’t turn 20 until February.

For inspiration, Galchenyuk can look to his 24-year-old teammate, Lars Eller. More than 220 games into his NHL career, Eller is rounding into an NHL centre who can be relied upon in all three zones.

Bournival made his second NHL start and flashed the speed and grit that are going to keep Ryan White in the pressbox for a while.

That’s the good news for your Montreal Canadiens: this team is becoming strong down the middle … and I haven’t even mentioned Tomas Plekanec or – crank up the negative Comments – David Desharnais.

For the second game of an Alberta back-to-back, Michel Therrien shook up his centres and defence pairings.

Plekanec played between Galchenyuk and Brendan Gallagher. Eller centred Max Pacioretty and Daniel Briere. DD was on a line with Brian Gionta and Rene Bourque.

Galchenyuk and Gallagher each had a goal and an assist against the Oilers, but they seemed more at ease passing the puck to each other than involving Pleks. The line was used as first wave on a power play that produced one goal – Gallagher, off a perfect feed by Galchenyuk – in two opportunities.

Pacioretty had four shots on goal, and it was nice to see him playing with a centre who has size. Eller was not in synch with his new linemates to the degree he had been with the kids, but the line had some excellent forechecking shifts late in the game with the Canadiens protecting their lead.

Desharnais won 11 of his 19 faceoffs. He meshed reasonably well with two speedy wingers – and Bourque shook off the torpor that had afflicted him in Calgary. But as things stand, that’s the team’s third line.

Bournival made a zone-clearing error that led to the Too Many Men penalty during which ageless Ryan Smyth opened the scoring. But the kid played a solid seven minutes and was in Devan Dubnyk’s face during the sequence that produced Brandon Prust’s first goal of the season.

P.K. Subban had three assists and leads NHL defencemen with six points. P.K. played 25:34 – including 3:16 when the Canadiens were shorthanded – and skated about 800 miles by the time the siren sounded.  His new partner, Andrei Markov, played 24:21 the night after 27:23 in Calgary.

Amazing ToI for a soon-to-be 35-year-old defenceman with bad pins. Can you say contract year?

Raphael Diaz teamed with Gorges and, thus inspired, blocked three shots.

With jarred Tinordi, who had a rough night in Calgary, watching from the pressbox, rookie Nathan Beaulieu contributed a solid 11:43 – almost all of it at even strength. Depending on the status of Gorges’ mysterious injury, perhaps we’ll see both rookie Dmen in Vancouver.

In his first start of the season, Peter Budaj was terrific. carey Price’s veteran backup made 27 saves in a solid performance reminiscent of the yeoman work Budaj contributed last season.

The game was not an unalloyed triumph.

The juggled lines lacked cohesion, Eller took a horrible penalty and Prust had to fight some goon much taller and heavier than he.

But a win is a win, and the Canadiens head to B.C. with a .500 record.

Is it 2015 yet?

Game report, by Dave Stubbs

Habs vs. Oilers photo gallery, montrealgazette.com

Beaulieu gets into his first game, by Dave Stubbs

Young guns fire for Habs, montrealgazette.com

Canadiens’ G-Men light up Oilers, Edmonton Journal

Motivating factors, Canadiens.com

Bulldogs make offseason changes, montrealgazette.com

Hertl shouldn’t turtle for breaking ‘The Code’, by Cam Cole

Sharks’ Thornton up for Quote of the Year, Stu on Sports blog

473 Comments

  1. frontenac1 says:

    Isles vs Hawks just starting on NHL4. Should be a corker.

  2. frontenac1 says:

    Huh? Diaz playing well? Jeesh! I would give him a chance paired with Murray when he comes back. If that doesn’t work, jettison.

    • dr. gesundheit says:

      I know he was @ camp (seems ages ago) and not to be too picky, but for Murray to come back, he would have had to have been here in the first place .

  3. sweetmad says:

    I really like Borque, and if he is playing the wrong side, then get him to the right one,I saw comments about his game in Calgary and Ed,saying he was no good,but he seems to work very hard to me.The same with Diaz,he played really well last night and made some really great passes,when someone is coming up to hit him, he manages to move himsef and the puck out of the way.

    I think some people, only watch certain players and miss what the rest of the team does.When I watch RDS,because I can’t understand French I have to watch the game very hard,so I can see what is really happening, instead of listening to the commentators.I think I see more than when it is on in English.
    GO HABS GO

    • Fransaskois says:

      He’s playing on the correct side. He played RW in Calgary and had success there, he’s played LW in MTL because we need him there. There’s really no difference. He’s basically A.Kostitsyn. Similar inconsistency, size, scoring ability, physicality etc. He’s a decent complimentary winger who fills a spot and not a whole lot more at this point. Based on the impact he has on a game, not just his size.

  4. sweetmad says:

    I don’t know enough,to make up the lines,not like a lot of you,but I see a lot of people putting Borque on the right wing,isn’t he a left wing,I thnk he was tried on the right, sometime in his career,but it did not work.

    The problem that I see, with a lot of the lines, is playing players out of position.The problem with our team all the big guys seem to be LW and the little guys seem to be RW.

    Nobody plays their best out of position,unless they are ambidextrous,so you don’t get the best out of them.This is something we cannot afford to do,need the best out of all of them,to win.
    GO HABS GO

    • Habfan10912 says:

      Hi sweet. I think you’d like to keep the forwards on their natural sides but it’s probably more important for dman then forwards.
      My only “Do Not Touch’ would be Gallagher and Galchenyuk. You change their partner if you wish but those two stay together. Its a special combination that those two have.

      • piper says:

        Lots of players play the off wing. I shoot right but always prefered to play on the left side. When playing defence it’s better to play your right side but the good d-men can play either.

    • HabFab says:

      He is a RW but has played LW for the Habs due to us being heavy in RWers and light on the LW.
      AND yet he gets criticized while playing out of his natural position.

    • FlyAngler says:

      Some bios suggest that Bourque has played RW and of course there are players that thrive on the off wing. I am not sure whether he has expressed a preference or if it was determined that playing RW is not a viable option. Others could perhaps weigh in……

      “Elever le flambeau!…Raise the Torch!”

    • savethepuck says:

      Based on you acknowledging the difference between a RW and a LW, don’t sell yourself short. You know a lot more about line combos than a lot on here.

      “They don’t hang Conference Championship Banners from the rafters here”
      Carey Price

  5. HabFab says:

    After leaving Boston College, defenseman Colin Sullivan has now joined the Green Bay Gamblers of the USHL.

  6. Habfan10912 says:

    Just rewatched last nights game and it reinforced my original observations. Galchenyuk and Gallagher are just playing tremendous hockey in all three zones. It’s also nice to see these two being rewarded with power play time.

    JF’s observation below concerning Diaz is also dead on. He had a wonderful game out there. Some other thoughts:

    Markov looks faster then last season.
    Nathan B was OK but as Eddie has stated previously, he gets a bit lost at times but you can see his skills. He’s going to be a very good player.
    Gionta looked like the old Gionta.
    Budaj is just a perfect backup. The team seems to have complete confidence in him.

    The negative, DD. It sure resembles what occurred to Gomez after he collected his big check. Now I hear even some at RDS are questioning his play. It sure looks to me like he’s lost his compete. There is limited options for this guy as he’s not a 4th liner. A big problem with a huge cap hit.

  7. HabsWin-nipeg says:

    For all the complaining about MT not switching things up last year, he certainly seems prepared to do so this year in terms of line combinations and TOI. Makes me wonder if last year a big part of sticking with the status quo was a combination of a)MB & MT trying to figure out exactly what they have in the players on the team, particularly in a shortened season, and b)making sure they younger guys were ready before they were given added responsibility.

    Either way it’s refreshing and encouraging to see MT moving unproductive guys down in the lineup and giving productive ones more ice time. Maybe we’ll actually see some trades this year if this keeps up!

  8. piper says:

    I’d like to see these lines when George gets back
    Max Eller Bourque
    Prust Gally27 Gally11 (its time)
    Briere Plek Gionta
    Moen White Parros

  9. HabFab says:

    Subban signing autographs in Vancouver while doing what he does second best ;)
    http://www.tout.com/m/u8dixe?ref=twgi7op2

  10. HabFab says:

    Re question below about Bulldog roster.
    Thomas and Quailer were both injured during the Habs training camp and cannot be sent down to Hamilton (on paper) until they are healthy.

  11. frontenac1 says:

    Habs win big in Van amigos! Ya heard it here first! Saludos!

    • krob1000 says:

      I heard nothing…and when I tried to imagine the sound of it coming from your mouth all I heard was Barney from the Simpsons mumbling about Eller having a great game and I couldn’t quite make out the rest about DD!

    • hunter says:

      RDS reporting that Gionta is returning to Mtl for family reasons. I truly hope his son will be alright…..

  12. jsaz says:

    Mtl is gonna have a hard time against van. Might be painful to watch!! I hope I’m wrong

  13. krob1000 says:

    Gionta was on that flight…can only wish him the best for his family and himself

    http://www.tsn.ca/nhl/story/?id=433897

  14. Kooch7800 says:

    I hope Gio’s Son is ok. He has left the habs again.

    “Keep your stick on the Ice”

  15. shiram says:

    Edler gets 3 games.
    I’m curious to see if Fisher gets any discipline for his stanchion hit, I have not see anything, so I’m thinking he wont.

  16. rossy131 says:

    Anyone know a link for the 24CH first episode. Have some time to kill!

  17. TaxGuy says:

    OK. I’ll join the “lines” debate. First of all, I have nothing but respect for all that DD has accomplished against long odds, but I don’t see a place for him in the starting line up now or in the future. Here’s what I’d like to see (assuming a healthy lineup)

    Chucky Eller Gally
    Pax Briere Bourque
    Prust Plex Gionta
    Moen Bournival/White Parros

    Gorges PK
    Markov Emelin
    Murray Diaz

    PP1
    Chucky Eller Gally
    Emelin PK

    PP2
    Pax Briere/Plex Bourque
    Markov Diaz

    PK1
    Prust Plex
    Murray Gorges

    PK2
    Moen Gionta
    Emelin PK

  18. shiram says:

    Kaleta to get a face to face meeting with Shanaban! Could not have happened to bigger douche.

  19. habs001 says:

    Price would not have played better yesterday than Budaj…The reality is that Budaj cannot play 60 to 65 games at the same quality level…The hope is that Price plays like Budaj did yesterday at least every 8 to 9 games out of every 10 games he plays and is in net for the majority of the games…When Budaj is playing at his best there is no difference between him and Price but he just cannot maintain that level…If Price remains inconsistent than eventually he will be also be a backup goalie…

    • Habilis says:

      I agree with you. Budaj is the perfect backup goalie. He gives the team a chance to win every time he plays. But as you said, he cannot do it for 65 games. If he could, he wouldn’t be a backup at this stage of his career. I love the guy, but I love him as a backup, not as the guy we count on every night.

      IMHO, Price has looked really solid in his first few games. Even the goals he has let in, most of them have been unstoppable. I think/hope that he’ll continue to adjust to the new pads and continue to get better. This is THE season for him to show everyone that he should be in the discussion for best goalie in the NHL. He wants that Olympic crease too, you can see it. I sure hope he gets it, because that can only mean good things for the Habs.

  20. krob1000 says:

    Do HAbs now own rights to Akim Aliu?

  21. Bripro says:

    Refresh my memory folks.
    The last time MaxPac was in a prolonged slump, did he not go on a tear after having scored an empty-netter?
    Seems to me…

  22. Danno says:

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  23. jsaz says:

    67-81-27 I’d like to see how that line would react. 11-48-21 mabye?

  24. mark-ID says:

    Hamilton Bulldogs lineup for tonight. Does anyone know if Steve Quailer is injured?

    Andrighetto-St.Pierre-Holland
    Blunden-Dumont-Leblanc
    Nystrom-Duffy-Aliu
    Tarnasky-Nattinen-Courtnall

    Chouinard-Pateryn
    Schiestel-Dietz
    McIver-Nygren

    Tokarski

    “I think I may have found a way for us to get Griffey and Bonds, and we really won’t have to give up much” -Costanza

  25. CHasman says:

    Great to get the win last night and a fun game to watch.
    The Oilers are a lot like Montreal, they’ve got some talent but they are not hard to play against. The Habs are clearly better though.
    I like that Therrien is willing to make changes. I’m sure that Plekanic and Patches are both happy with the changes and I believe we can get two good lines going this way. DD, Gionta and Bourque can under achieve together. (Maybe they’ll surprise us.)
    Eller having the most ice time of any forward? Who would have thought it. Briere looked better right away playing with two big forwards. We can’t have DD and Briere on the same line, especially if we want them to be a top line.
    I was expecting a lot from Eller this year but Galchenyuk might be the biggest surprise because he looks scary good out there, and you just know he has even more to offer and it’s coming fast.
    Beaulieu looked pretty good and I would have him taking Diaz’s spot in a minute. Which means I would keep using Tinordi.
    The Canucks will be a better test though, and I am excited to see the new lines in action. I only hope that Therrien will not revert right back to the old lines.
    On a sad note, I have both Hall and Eberle in my hockey pool and for me to get anywhere requires those two to play much better than they have. I did not see too much from them to be excited about.

    • JF says:

      Agree with most of this except about Diaz, who has actually been very solid defensively except for his pinch in the first game. Just because he’s not physical, people think he’s no good. Watch him more closely for a bit. I don’t think Beaulieu is consistent enough yet to take his spot.

  26. Lafleurguy says:

    Shoutout to pmaraw who observed that coach’s line juggling was a case of MT not wanting all his eggs in one basket.
    Joe Thornton needs Burly as his publicist. Re-wording using the noun “snakey” in referencing rooster matters would have retained the humour, and toned down the yuck factor.
    Thank you and you may return to your important messages.

    “May you live in interesting times.”

  27. SteverenO says:

    This would be my preferred lines; inno particular order:

    Prust-Gally- Gallagher
    Patches-Plek-Gionta
    MOEN-DD-Bourque
    Bournival-Eller-Briere

    or

    Gally-Plex-Gallagher
    Patches-DD-Gionta
    Moen-Briere-Bourque
    Prust-Eller-Bournival

    In any case, there can never be a reason to keep Bournival on the bench to make room for Ryan White, in my opinion.

    regards,

    Steve O.

    • Ozmodiar says:

      Awesome! Eller demoted to the 4th line!

      Keep these line combos comin’ boys ‘n girls!!

      • vancouverite says:

        Hahaha and Galchenyuk is not ready yet to play centre, but if we put him 1st line centre he’ll be okay, not much responsibility there :)

      • oldtimerguy says:

        there are no lines per se…there is only productivity.

        maybe eller would be awesome with prust and bourneval…

        steve-o’s lines are as good as anyone else’s on here…

        the problem with this team is the same as it has been for the last longest while… too many small guys in the lineup at once makes for a tough balancing act throughout the lines…im not looking to push dd out of town…I think that is actually the wrong move with that guy…the right move, is to pair him with 2 big forwards with talent…max and ??? why not move dd to a wing and roll max and dd with eller centering them… if you get dd going, it will greatly improve he whole team, it as it stands now, its been a frustration watching him be unproductive when you know he can be…

        galchenyuk gally bourneval
        pacc eller dd
        gio pleks bourque
        moen white prust

    • Cardiac says:

      Wow… where to begin…

      Putting our top scorer on the fourth line?

      Giving Moen and Bourque more ice time than Eller, Prust or Briere?

      “There’s genius everywhere, but until they turn pro, it’s like popcorn in the pan. Some pop… some don’t.”
      - Jerry Maguire

      • krob1000 says:

        where did he number his lines? where did he mention ice time? How do people look at that and not feel Pleks-Gio Patches would be the so called top line? How is any line with Eller and Briere possibly interpreted as a 4th line? because of the order he wrote them in? I like the general idea he as…spread the wealth of talent and also the wealth of workers and energy guys….the fascination with numbering lines bothers me.
        Who is the number one line for the Canadiens now? As of the day before yesterday you could have conducted a poll and got 3 pretty close responses…the DD line, Pleks line and Eller’s…so where exactly did he number these lines? commentators from other cities can’t even decied which is the “no 1″ line…why can’t we be happy to have that problem?

        • Cardiac says:

          Oh come on, anyone who posts line combos here USUALLY puts them in order. no? Who puts the top line last and the fourth line first or second?

          And I’m all for spreading the wealth, but even the deepest teams with the deepest rosters will really only roll three lines for 15-17 minutes a game and have their fourth play 10 minutes.

          “There’s genius everywhere, but until they turn pro, it’s like popcorn in the pan. Some pop… some don’t.”
          - Jerry Maguire

          • slyCH says:

            He did say “inno particular order” But yeah normally line posters do it in order. So this was a slip.

          • krob1000 says:

            I think common sense when you look at those lines pretty well should assure you don’t believe the two kids and Prust is a “1st line” or that with the distribution he used that he is shooting for a traditional 1,2,3,4. You can have workers on all ines and still get your stars the ice. Special teams are where guys pad their TOI stats. If each team gets 4 penalties a game that is over 25 percent of the game on special teams. If a goalie is pulled or there are delayed penalty calls that percentage goes up. MT preers to use his set lines as hi spp and that is why the lines ar as they are…I personally don;t think it is necessary with tv timeouts to roll like that…but that is his preference…

          • SteverenO says:

            I purposely did not put them in any order. I don’t like the ways lines are currently designated as 1,2,3,4. I would want to make each line one that could both score and be responsible defensively.

            I believe that a team should have two number one lines and two number two lines Which 4th line in the NHL is going to stop any of the lines I proposed from scoring?

            I also think that Eller playing with Bournival and anyone (except for White and Moen who are mostly defensive specialists with little offensive contribution ) will score plenty of goals.

            1st wave PP

            Briere -Plek- Gionta
            2nd wave:

            Pacioretty- Eller- Bourque

            (The two Gally’s are not yet ready for regular PP duty, in my opinion, and the numbers so indicate)

            I would however move one of them to the second wave and play Eller on the point, but it seems that, for some inexplicable reason,Therrien will never play a forward on the point

            regards,

            Steve O.

      • Ozmodiar says:

        Uh-oh, Cardiac, we shouldn’t have mentioned the “4th/fourth line”.

        Should have said: “on the line listed below the other 3 lines, playing between 2 wingers currently playing on a line that is least used by the coach.”

        • krob1000 says:

          who is the first line right now? what about 3 days ago? what about 3 days from now? …funny you are phrasing it like that when you are basically saying to Stevereno that he should have said…”uhh…this is the first line, uh…this is the second and so on”….

      • oldtimerguy says:

        hyper sensitive dude…just turn the lines around and voila! the POINT is, do the lines have some merit…

  28. Fransaskois says:

    Pacioretty-Eller-Briere
    Galchenyuk-Plekanec-Gallagher
    Bourque-Bournival-Gionta
    Moen-White-Prust

    This is what I’m hoping for in a couple of months :D

    • vancouverite says:

      Love it. I was wondering “how did he fit in White and Bournival in there”… took me a couple minutes to realize DD was gone (goes to show how important he is to the team in my eyes)

  29. SteverenO says:

    What a difference a day makes.

    Agianst the Flames the entire team looked iked they were skating uphill against the wind, last note versus the Oilers we saw numerous flashes of speed and lots of hustle.

    Makes one wonder if perhaps the team went out drinking the night before the Flames game. They sure played as of they were hungover.

    I am still concerned about the coaching. There does not seem to be any “set”PP lines, or a whole lot of thought going into game preparation.

    there is nothing wrong with making some changes “on the fly” but wouldn’t it be better to have planned and implemented some line changes before the game?

    regards,

    Steve O.

  30. jo_maka says:

    @ commandant

    Sorry, on cellphone.

    I thought of a 3rd line of
    Prust – Briere -Gionta

    If MT was okay with a DD Briere combo, he could live with that.

    Aaaaaaaaaand DD out. Or traded. Or mysteriously injured. Or eating hotdogs.

    Once again, I said I’D LIKE to see a 67-81-17 line. That doesn’t necessarily make it the best option for us.

    But I’d like to get a gander at that.

  31. jols101 says:

    Not sure if this is accurate at all but I thought I would post it anyways.
    I was just on HF Boards reading more Habs related info. and a poster said he was at the Vancouver airport heading home to Montreal at noon today and Gio was on the flight with him. Maybe his boy still has the flu?

  32. jo_maka says:

    Now if only MB could Pollock his way to get Sam Reinhart without the team tanking………..I know I know. I’m still drunk, I won’t drive.

  33. jo_maka says:

    If MT really wants to separate the Great Dane from the G-men, then I’d like to seea line of:

    Patch – Eller – Bourque

    Now that’s a Bruise Patrol on a forecheck

  34. jamman says:

    Can someone tell me why the team plays like **** with Price in the net? I don’t get it. Back when Halak took over it was the same stuff. The team played like crap with Price in and won games with Halak. Hate to be a negative nancy but I dont think they feel as confident with Price between the pipes.

    • Fransaskois says:

      Exact opposite and it happens with a lot of good starting goalies. The team needs to step up their game as they know they can’t make many mistakes with the backup, they play lazy and loose defensively because they “know” that the starter can make the save. Happens from Novice hockey all the way to the NHL and in every league in the world and in most sports with a goalie. That’s a guarantee! ;)

      • Phil C says:

        That was definitely not the case with Halak, they played better in front of him. At the time I thought it was because Price overhandled the puck then.

        Last night I didn’t think they played any better. Worse if anything. They just played a really bad team. Eakins has his hands full.

    • Bripro says:

      Maybe it’s just the opposite.
      They figure he’s solid enough that the D can take the night off.

    • habtastic74 says:

      The team really was not that great defensively last night. Budaj made some huge saves, and we lucked out when the Oilers missed some opportunities. The defense was pretty decent, but nothing more than that. Even Subban made a couple really shaky defensive plays. Our whole team sucked defensively for 40 mins against Calgary, and it had nothing to do with who was in net.

      Also, the Halak thing…Halak faced 40 or more shots like a billion times that year. Our defence collapsed and allowed tons of shots from low percentage areas and then tried to gobble up or block the rebounds that year. They did the same thing no matter who was in net.

  35. Habsrule1 says:

    As opposed to the night before, last night I wore my jersey for the full 60 minutes.

    YOU ARE WELCOME.

    Go Habs Go!!

    “Fans are great, but the quickest way to start losing is to listen to them.” – Sam Pollock

  36. Stevie.Ray says:

    They play a few shifts with Plekanec and look what happens
    https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BWT5wulCAAIHB5y.jpg

  37. jols101 says:

    What is Galchenyuk knocks Patches off the USA Olympic team by grabbing the final LW position. Bitterness???

    • doc359 says:

      I wouldn’t put it past Gally to fight for a spot as a center. The US team doesn’t have a very offensive minded group at center at Gally could grab a third line role if he keeps up this pace.

      Or if he makes it as a LW, he would probably not be knocking off Patches, who many see as a second line player on the Olympic team

      • Cardiac says:

        It wouldn’t be a stretch. He will be 20 when the Olympics roll around. Remember how well Doughty played in 2010 and he was like 20 or 21.

        “There’s genius everywhere, but until they turn pro, it’s like popcorn in the pan. Some pop… some don’t.”
        - Jerry Maguire

  38. HabFab says:

    The Hamilton Specs lists the priorities for the Bulldogs… score goals!
    http://www.thespec.com/sports-story/4152607-radley-ahl-the-bulldogs-goal-goals-/

    • B says:

      Dietz seems to be flying under the radar in Hamilton, this article and the one linked above don’t even mention him being on the team. I hope he plays well and gets noticed this season.

      –Go Habs Go!–

      • doc359 says:

        He is also a rookie whose game is probably going to take some adjustment to the pro level.

        He isn’t going to be like Nate B, he will take a little time to develop how to play his game at faster speeds. I can’t wait for him to be a great player one day, but there was a reason he wasn’t drafted until the 5th round, he is a project

        • B says:

          The article linked at the top goes to great lengths to discuss the new players on the team and mentions the CHL graduates now on the Dogs, but not Dietz. I guess I am higher on Dietz than you (or most?). His 24 goals led all CHL D last season and hopefully can continue to score as pro. Like the article states, the Dogs sure need to score some more goals this season. Perhaps Dietz will be able to do well right away turning pro like the 5th round project the Habs selected in the draft before Dietz’s?

          –Go Habs Go!–

  39. PaddyM8 says:

    Subban has to be on the Olympic team..I mean come onnnnn hes a BEAST.

    \”Subban is the man with a sick old plan, BAMMM\”

  40. krob1000 says:

    The Thornton story was botched

  41. DalEng says:

    Anyone have an English link to the first episode of 24 CH Season 2?

    Thanks

    MF

  42. frontenac1 says:

    The Franco media finally calling out DD? Good,that might get him going!

  43. Fransaskois says:

    Edmonton handed us the win, no doubt about that. We looked bad for most of the game and lacked any kind of chemistry or flow to. Break outs and our transition game looked like Novice-level hockey.

    That being said, Galchenyuk and Gallagher were definitely a bright spot as they teamed up for some great plays. Eller looked good (despite that dirty hit) and I’m quite excited to see what Pacioretty-Eller-Briere will do once they get a practice or two together.

    Beaulieu and Bournival are both incredible skaters and looked to be difference makers during their limited minutes.

    Future is bright.

  44. Timo says:

    Hopefully Pacioretty will unblock after that empty netter last night. He should put big boy pants on and start making things happen for himself rather than relying on the “best center he’s ever played with”. Big guy like that should be making other players around him better, not another way around.

    • Say Ash says:

      I think so. Remember last year, when he went on a tear after beating Ward from centre ice?

    • shiram says:

      He started producing last season after a very flukey goal, so maybe it is the case again this season, one can hope.

    • Fransaskois says:

      THIS IS WHAT I’VE BEEN SAYING. He’s big and he’s a very skilled playmaker, “put big boy pants on” already and start driving the offence and stop being a complimentary player.

    • jedimyrmidon says:

      Pacioretty already does that. He’s done it for the past two years. DD’s 60pt season two years ago? Mostly due to Pacioretty and Cole causing a lot of trouble for the opposition, leaving DD untouched.

    • FANHABULOUS says:

      My favorite play from Max last night was watching him finish a couple of crushing body checks on the Oilers D after they had moved the puck. With his size and speed, he should be pounding at least one guy like that on every shift. I’ve noticed Bork doing that too (especially in the first 2 games). If these two guys, both big boys that can skate, would realize that they have this power and size and ability to hurt opposing D with physicality, we’ll be ok as a team.

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    • Sportfan says:

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  45. Stevie.Ray says:

    What I think the number one thing to take out of last nights game is that Subban is unbelievable. Whether he has the puck making moves, or setting up plays. Or when he goes end to end he is like a steam engine crashing through the defence, and nobody is stopping him. And when he is along the boards, they can lean on him all they want but it doesn’t even affect him.

    I say just give him the 8 years 7.5m dollar contract now. He isn’t the type of player who will shut down after he gets resigned. He’s a tank.

  46. Bill says:

    Just watched the highlights, Gallagher is awesome and Galchenyuk is positively sick. Can’t believe we have these two young guys at the same time. Add in Eller and Pacioretty and that’s a terrific young forward corps of guys under 25.

  47. shiram says:

    I fel asleep after the second, but through the first periods it seemed to me the Oiler were diving and embellishing alot of hits.
    Annoying stuff to see.
    They looked alot softer than our Habs.

  48. Cardiac says:

    Re: Plekanec

    Ok, so I was listening to Team 690 this morning and they were really laying into Pleky, bringing up his salary vs. what he brings to the team.

    Certain expectations come with paying someone $5 million. In 2009-10 he put up career stats and in year where he was playing for a new contract. He had Cammalleri who was simply awesome at the time and Kostitsyn when he was still relevant to the team on his wings.

    Back in 2007-08, he put up some pretty good stats with Kostitsyn again and Kovalev as his wingers.

    My point is, the guy is a decent offensive player when he has some talented wingers to play with. Once Kostitsyn and Cammalleri became inconsistent, his offensive production went in the toilet.

    Sticking him with an inconsistent and indifferent Rene Bourque or Michael Ryder and an under-sized and aging Gionta is a waste. I proposed yesterday we stick Pacioretty on his line with Briere. Max is not one of those guys who will go to the net and get those “garbage” goals. That’s what Erik Cole did. He’s strong on the puck and prefers to shoot from the perimeter. I think it would be a lot more productive to see two playmakers like Pleks and Briere feed him sweet passes than watch him play with someone like Desharnais where the old AHL chemistry is obviously not there anymore.

    “There’s genius everywhere, but until they turn pro, it’s like popcorn in the pan. Some pop… some don’t.”
    - Jerry Maguire

    • shiram says:

      Agreed, playing Max with DD right now is a waste of talent, at the very least play him with Eller or Pleky.

      • oldtimerguy says:

        move dd to wing and have pleks centre him with pacc on the other side…maybe it will help free up dd to be less concerned about the defensive aspects and allows him to find his creativity again. He looked awfully good on the wing in that boston series until he got hurt with that knee tweaking. I think its worth a try because if you can get him going say with pleks and pacc, all the other lines can fall into place….

        galch eller gally
        pacc pleks dd
        bourneval briere bourque
        moen white prust

    • Ozmodiar says:

      Plex will be fine. It won’t take him long to develop some chemistry with either Max or the Gallys.

      He’s certainly a good value @ 5M.

      Wasn’t there a recent player’s poll where they were asked to rank other players? If memory serves, among the top forwards were:
      45: Max
      50: Plex
      58: Chucky

      If there’s 90 so-called “1st line forwards” in the league, it tells you what other teams/players think of Plex. I put more stock into what they think than the jokers @ 690. :)

    • habstrinifan says:

      You are making the same arguments for Plekanec that people made for Kovalev (remember Gainey’s response) and to some degree AK.

      A player like Plekanec has tp decide if all he is a shutdown kinda guy who plays ‘against the other teams top lines’ and is satisfied with minimum production or if he wants to up his expectations of himself as a ‘forward. This is what the RDS guy on Team690 said this AM and what I have been posting forever. One way you would have seen a sign of this desire to be hungrier and better would have been if he had embarked on the type of physical training that Bournival did… yes that Bournival who so many bemoaned should not have made the team.

  49. Thomas Le Fan says:

    I know it’s early and he’s crazy (but that takes attention and pressure away from the players) but has anyone been watching Colorado and wondering how Patrick Roy would look behind our bench? Just saying. Go Habs!

    There is no crying in baseball, “i” in team or “chuck” in Galchenyuk but … there is fighting in hockey.

  50. DipsyDoodler says:

    I propose a new H I/O tradition.

    Whenever the Habs (as a team) score more than 4 goals, I propose that all fans who are in a position to do so, celebrate in a manner suggested recently by a certain hockey player.

    We’ll refer to it as a “Big Joe”.

    As in:

    Woo Hoo! 5 goals! I’m going for a Big Joe!

    • Thomas Le Fan says:

      You first. My mother may be watching from on high.

      There is no crying in baseball, “i” in team or “chuck” in Galchenyuk but … there is fighting in hockey.

  51. TheDagger says:

    Just got to say, I despise Andrew Ference. I hate the look of him. And I think he is one of the worst captains in the league. But I’m clearly biased.

  52. Phil C says:

    So who’s in next game, Tinordi or Beaulieu? Against the Canucks, I would give Beaulieu another start to see if he can show some learning curve.

  53. Subban in Sochi says:

    Budaj.

    Wow. Somebody has benefitted from Stéphane Waite’s lessons. Assuming CP returns to his form of 1-2 years ago it is important to remember that this is an Olympic year. Price needs a hard cap of 60 games; maybe less.

    I have a nickname for Andrei Markov: “Champagne.” Because Markov’s knees are going to be on ice for the entire 17 day Olympic break. AM is +4 on the season and playing minutes that belie his age-and knees.

    Very pleased that Beaulieu and Bournival played; they add quickness & speed and seem to have decent hockey sense.

    If the All-Star game is ever played again-and comes to Edmonton-I hope that Brendan Gallagher is in the speed skating competition. He found a new gear at home.

    And like Gallagher Galchenyuk, Eller, and Subban are playing at sublime levels. Say no more.

    Josh Gorges showed what he was made of last night. Impressive. Expect the same in his homecoming Saturday. Let’s hope that homeboy Care Price dominates in BC too…He’s (over) “due.”

    I never thought that playing with a 2 goal lead with an opponent’s net empty…for 4:20 (!!) could be THAT nerve racking. Fun.

    “Cannonading drive!!”

  54. commandant says:

    Revisiting the Bridge Contract vs Long-Term Deal Debate and the Montreal Canadiens Future
    http://lastwordonsports.com/2013/10/11/montreal-canadiens-should-take-a-page-from-mlbs-rays/

    A rant on the Tomas Hertl Controversy
    http://lastwordonsports.com/2013/10/11/think-hertl-power-is-a-bad-thing-sit-down-shut-up-and-listen-to-the-big-mick/

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    • Kooch7800 says:

      It is an interesting debate Ben. I know why they did it with Subban as he still had some major flaws in his game before he signed. But since has shown he is truely an elite player. I do think that will be a win-win as PK will get 8 mill plus on a long deal.

      With Galchenyuk though and Gallagher if they keep scoring and lead the team in scoring or are near the top what do you do?

      I think there would be just cause if they are both leading the team in scoring to signing long term deals now as you are setting the bar pretty high for other rookies coming up to avoid the bridge contract

      “Keep your stick on the Ice”

      • commandant says:

        I said last year that I would have gone long term with PK.

        I will say now, I would go long term with Galchenyuk.

        Gallagher I’d give a bridge to.

        To me, the long-term only goes to your absolute best forward, or absolute best defenceman. Its special and should be treated as such. You gotta do it sometimes, but can’t go like the Oilers either.

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        • Ozmodiar says:

          It was reported PK wanted a 5 year term. Had MB given him that contract, PK would be set to become a UFA at 28. Now, he’ll likely get him locked up for 8 years, and he won’t be a UFA until he’s ~ 33.

          Good decision by MB.

          Hopefully, he’ll do the same with Galchenyuk.

        • Kooch7800 says:

          The oilers will be in big trouble. PK i think has blown everyone away with how fast he has progressed. I wouldn’t be shocked to see him put up over 80 points this year. Ask me that before the start of last season and I would have been very doubtful.

          I agree Ben that you lock up Galchenyuk but Gallagher could very well lead this team in goals by the end of the year. That says something if he can do it. I think he was tied or within a goal of the team lead last year

          “Keep your stick on the Ice”

        • Propwash says:

          Long term/big money contracts scare me a little. We’ve seen player production drop off after these big signings time after time.

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          • commandant says:

            You make sure you know the player you have when you do it.

            In Subban and Galchenyuk you have two Gym Rat/Rink Rats who work hard and love hard work. I don’t see either guy resting on a big money deal.

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        • Cal says:

          If PK and Price got bridge contracts, every young Hab should. That includes Galchenyuk and Gallagher.
          It is the best way to manage the salary cap.

  55. theox_8 says:

    On the long drive from Edmonton to van last minute rash decision , not the craziest thing I have done but close !!

  56. Bill says:

    I missed the game and they won. Guess I am exiled until after the next loss.

    • Phil C says:

      “Guess I am exiled until after the next loss.”

      Sorry, but yes, that’s how it works.

      • The Jackal says:

        It’s true…. I did not watch game 2 in the playoffs and we won… I watched the next 3 games… My bad guys.

        Bill… we’ll keep you posted with the live blog

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        • GrimJim says:

          Great, that means I get to watch the rest of the season sitting on the floor in the corner of my son’s room instead of on the couch in front of the 40″ LCD screen.
          Thanks a lot guys…

  57. twilighthours says:

    Observations, probably all re-hashed from previous posters:

    1) Galchenyuk is something special, isn’t he? Slick, slick pass on Gallagher’s goal, and great hands to cradle and then rip that puck on the 3rd goal.

    2) Briere looked a bit better

    3) Desharnais did not

    4) Subban is the game. He owns it. He stands at the fulcrum and spins the game on its axis. It’s remarkable how good he is, and how he just keeps getting better.

    • krob1000 says:

      Galchenyuk is beyond special…let’s hope he keeps his head screwed on straight because if he does he could be Kovalev witha work ethic and for his prime years…what a treat that oculd be

    • Habfan10912 says:

      A perfect recap, twi. Especially #1 and #4.

      • krob1000 says:

        As great as Chara and PRonger are/were….the way that Erik Karlsson and Pk Subban control games right now is unreal. Every time you watch either team play it seems they just dictate how things will go…now if only we could get PK in shape enough to play 40 mins a night.

    • Luke says:

      What stood out most for me was, in the second I believe, when he held onto the puck, was about to pass, an oiler slid through his lane, he curled the puck out of reach of the slider and ripped a wrister into Dubnyk’s shoulder.

      Gallagher (I think) wound up taking the net off the moorings.

      Patience, skill, vision and the ability to react on the fly.

    • oldtimerguy says:

      even slicker was his soft little forehand to backhand nudge pass to Gallagher for an open netter which Gallagher missed…did you see that pass? it was gretzky’esque.

  58. Mavid says:

    GO HABS GO

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  59. Jerk Store says:

    I apologize if someone has already posted this, but here’s a link to an article by Francois Gagnon on the RDS web site calling out DD. It’s the first time I really see DD being taken to task in the francaphone media.

    http://www.rds.ca/hockey/canadiens/victoire-apaisante-pas-pour-desharnais-1.671735

  60. Small_Town_Boy says:

    Lets see what Budaj can do playing 60 games per season!

    Everyone blamed Price for the Ottawa disaster last spring. They scored 6 goals on Budaj in game 5 …

    Dat’s wha me tinks

    • JUST ME says:

      I have never read one comment stating that Budaj should start 60 games. Maybe just maybe Budaj should get more starts and maybe Price and the team would benefit from it ?

      Carey is the number 1 goaler and is being paid as is.
      You are going the other extreme to make your point but i am not sure that Price can start 82 games,play the olympics,endure the traveling,practices on and off ice without being tired physically or mentally.

  61. krob1000 says:

    Hey Flyangler…disagree completely re plekanec…you think he doens’t know how to manage the puck? has no skill? this is borderline lunacy. Pleks has been the most consistent puck manager for years on Montreal…you pointed out a turnover…that hit Galchenyuk’s stick…it was supposed to be a bank to the point but Galchenyuk tried to grab it.

    As far as chemistry goes….Pleks has had a revloving door and styles to play with for years. When playing with other skilled palyers he has proven he can be nearly a point per game guy…he was the odd man in so of course Gallagher and Galchenyuk looked better with each other? is this somehow surprising?

    It won’t take long for Pleks to adapt if they do opt to do that…but tossing him under the bus is a bit premature. Gallagher went offside on him, Pleks dumped it a couple times to areas and noone went to it( he is used to having a puck retrieval line and guys like Gio and Bourque or often Moen where that is the play…he used to play a puck possession game with Kovy adn Ak and was great at it)…he isn’t used to them and they aren’t used to him.

    Pleks has a great shot, is a great passer, can normally fly and is as heads up as they come. Your post IMO is completely off base and I don’t understand where you have been the last 5 years while Pleks has proven he can put points up time and time again with virtually anyone as wingers and has demonstrated season after season that he is the most skilled forward…the time has come to pass the torch in that dept but that doesn’t mean he isn’t skilled…only that the Habs now have more talent to add to the mix.

    Plekanec was on Montreals pp’s a few times when they were among the best in the league..he has a 24, 25 and two 18 point pp point seasons under his belt….not sure why you think he can’t play a pp?

    • Supersonic says:

      I agree. Some people will realise how useful he is only when he’s out of the line-up. For example, people say Markov is valuable when you look at the team’s record when he’s out of the line up but he’s also been injury prone

    • Cal says:

      Bang on, krob. Great defense of Pleks. And great offense by Pleks.
      It was a two way point, for Habs best two-way center.

  62. JF says:

    Peter Budaj seems to be picking up where he left off last season, when he went 8-1-1 and was generally excellent. He was excellent again last night, seeing the puck well, moving well, and stopping just about everything. He wasn’t required to be spectacular, as Price has been, but was very solid. His performance is another bit of proof that Pierre Gauthier knows something about hockey. I remember being less than ecstatic that summer when our big free agent signing was Peter Budaj to replace Alex Auld. I thought at the time it was a wash, but Budaj is better than Auld and has improved since coming to Montreal. I think I read at the time that Colorado had no goaltending coach, so Budaj would have benefited from the coaching here. Anyway, credit where it’s due – a good move by Gauthier.

    • Ali says:

      I’m going to say something but feel the need to preface it with the fact that I’m in no way advocating for Budaj to be the starter or anything like that.

      Price excels when he simplifies his game and minimizes his movement. Look at the Calgary game, on all the goals, even the ones that weren’t his fault, he finishes the play way out beside the net on all of them (specifically goals #1 and 3 vs Calgary), over committing to the slide on the initial play.

      Until Waite can fix this, you gotta give Budaj a few more starts.

  63. Blade says:

    Agree with Stevie Ray, and yes, I do believe the defense and the entire played better than the night before because they realized they laid an egg. Budaj was the beneficiary of that. Let’s just please be happy that we got the “W” and have two very competent goaltenders playing. On to Vancouver. Should be a good game!

  64. Sportfan says:

    I know I’m happy Howson was GM in Columbus at the time lol!

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  65. Stevie.Ray says:

    Don’t get why accepting that we have a good backup means we have to shit all over our starter.

    Budaj played well last night but he didn’t make any unbelievable saves. Price played well in the first three games and did make those saves. So far, you can’t fault Price for any goal allowed this season, and you can’t fault Price for the team only scoring two goals when he’s in net, and four when Budaj is in net.

    • Say Ash says:

      You think the defence plays tighter with Budaj in nets?

      • Stevie.Ray says:

        I think both goalies played well. Every game is different. The team as a whole was not as good Wednesday, as it was Thursday. Putting blame on an individual player is not fair, especially when Price has played very well every game and has been one of our better players on the ice every game he has played so far. We got a top 10 goalie in the NHL. Maybe higher. Twenty other teams would love to have him.

        And Budaj is good too. He played well for us last year when he was called upon, but it’s clear he just doesn’t have the skills as Price. Few do. But he is a competent NHL goalie and he appears to have the focus necessary to play after long breaks. We are lucky to have both of them.

        We are not weak in net by any means.

    • Timo says:

      I think Budaj made some awesome saves last night. However, I agree, Habs loses this season cannot be faulted on Price, especially not the Calgary loss.

      I thing it is a reasonable assumptions that D tighten up a bit in front of Budaj, though myself, I doubt it.


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