About last night …

WaldoMax

Four NHL teams have clinched playoff spots.
Three of them didn’t celebrate by chugging big hits of suck juice.
And then there are your Montreal Canadiens.
Unlike the Chicago Blackhawks, Anaheim Ducks and Pittsburgh Penguins, the Canadiens don’t look like a team that’s ready for the 2013 playoffs.
Since sewing up a spot in the postseason, they’ve looked like the 2012 Montreal Canadiens.
Maybe worse, because a year ago fans weren’t expecting much from a last-place team.
Through 40 games of the truncated 2013 season, the Canadiens raised hopes and expectations to what may have been an unrealistic level.
But if the team we’ve seen in games 41 and 42 is the real Canadiens, the playoffs …
Well, let’s promise a phrase from 17th-century English philosopher Thomas Hobbes:
The Canadiens’ postseason could be nasty, brutish and short.

Last Thursday in Buffalo, the Canadiens outshot the Sabres 42-15 en route to the 5-1 win that put an “x” beside Montreal in the Eastern Conference standings.

Little did we know it stood for “execrable”.

After Monday’s 7-3 home-ice pasting at the hands of the non-playoff Flyers, veteran sportscaster Ron Reusch offered this grim assessment: “The Canadiens clinched a playoff spot, and they haven’t played a good period since.”

Tough to argue.

Down 3-0 after 10 minutes in Toronto Saturday night and down 2-0 to Philadelphia after less than six minutes of Monday’s game, the Canadiens – who had played brilliant first periods through much of the season, scoring first in 28 of their 40 starts – were on their back foot and chasing the game against the Leafs and Flyers.

In Toronto and even more egregiously back at the Bell Centre, the Canadiens seemed incapable of playing the disciplined style that had carried them to the lofty heights of first place in the Northeast Division. Where was the tenacious puck pursuit? Where was the lightning-fast transition game?

Where was the checking? After recording 36 hits in Toronto, the Canadiens had ONE (by Nathan Beaulieu) through 20 minutes and two through 40 against Philadelphia. Play that soft against the Flyers and you’re doomed.

And where was the franchise goaltender?

MIA at the ACC, Carey Price was better against the Flyers. Without his saves on three breakaways, the game would have been done and dusted after 20 minutes.

As it was, Price stood reasonably tall through a 17-shot first-period bombardment. And the game was tied early in the second period on a power-play goal by Brendan Gallagher – again, the best Canadiens forward … heck, the best Canadien skater … WTF, the best player in a red jersey.

The 2-2 deadlock lasted 24 seconds. Then Claude Giroux, who was brilliant, set up Jakub Voracek for an uncontested 12-foot wrister and the rout was on.

Gallagher was the best Canadien, but he wasn’t the only one who played well. P.K. Subban had two more assists and played like he hated the Flyers. Galchenyuk and Lars Eller were two forwards who managed to create some pressure in the Flyers’ zone.

The other 14 skaters? Varying degrees of awful, and some were worse than others. The group suck raised a few troubling questions:

• Was Alexei Emelin carrying his defence partner through 38 games? Watching Andrei Markov struggle, you wonder how he would fare in an 82-game season, with or without his Russian homeboy. And what if knee surgery makes Emelin as slow and contact-averse as Markov?

• Is it time for Carey Price to book a session with team psychologist Sylvain Guimond?

• Would Josh Gorges be playing Top Four minutes on a good hockey team? Would Francis Bouillon?

• What did David Desharnais do to merit 20:42 of ice time – more than any other forward on either team?

• If  Travis Moen was serious about challenging Wayne Simmonds, why did he wait until garbage time?

Because the tragic events in Boston forced postponement of the Bruins-Senators game, the Canadiens are still atop the Northeast Division.

But Boston is a point back, with a game in hand. And don’t look now, but the Leafs are four points off the division lead.

The Canadiens are in Pittsburgh on Wednesday. It might be time for Michel Therrien to cue up his Greatest Penguins Hits:

• There were moments of silence for victims of the Boston tragedy in Montreal, Chicago, Calgary, Nashville and Phoenix.

As a Montrealer who loves his city, I am dismayed to note the Bell Centre as the only venue where yahoos screamed during the brief ceremony.

Disgusting and depressing … the more so in contrast to what happened a week ago when the Liverpool football club in England remembered the Hillsborough disaster.

For a full minute at the great Anfield stadium, players linked arms and you could hear a pin drop.

But in Montreal, we can’t STFU for 10 seconds.

 

 

 

 

 

543 Comments

  1. DLN-CH4Life says:

    Those excuses for Fans should be blamed for the loss when they disgraced yesterdays dead.

    -DLN

  2. smiler2729 says:

    Slumps suck…

  3. The Dude says:

    And now the ‘Fans in the Bubble’ are going after Boone….Who’s got a PIN!

  4. Loonie says:

    Below it’s mentioned that “calling out” Gorges is the act of somebody who doesn’t have fairness in mind and doesn’t know anything about hockey.

    I’m curious as to why that is? Is it because there aren’t many players on the team who deserve praise lately? Is it because it’s a team game? Because Gorges is used in a role he shouldn’t be or too heavily depended upon? Because he’s been a solid player for a fair amount of time?

    There are players who happen to be on the ice when a goal is scored and then there are players who have a direct hand in the goal being scored. Gorges has had a direct impact on a lot of goals going into the Habs’ net lately.

    His leadership is great, but if somebody’s going to lead they need to be able to back up the talk and be an example.

    Nobody on the team is beyond reproach. The team’s problems extend well beyond Josh Gorges, but he isn’t without blame.

    • krob1000 says:

      My issues with Gorges are not related to his character. But for 3.9 million and given the makeup of the D I would either spend that money on a punishing 3 or 4 dman who is fear inducing or another top minute eater that can play two ways like Bouwmeester (who I think would have been perfect). The fact that the Habs have plenty of yung dmen coming odwn the pipe at affordable contracts means that we can get another top pairing type guy if you move someone. I would not mlove markov even if his role diminishes, Subban…nope, Emelin? nope, Diaz brings too muich to the table and will be affordable, Tinordi, Beualieu……Bouillon slides to a depth role that Dreewiskie currently has and to me the spot you upgrade is Gorges as upgrading Bouillon gives you no cap space.
      Regehr and Bouwmeester were pricey but Bouwmeester especially would have been perfect for next year. You probably recover most of your assests by oving Gorges in the offseason.

      • ed says:

        I find Boumeester way over-rated here by many posters.

        The guy is a fabulous skater, and……that’s where it ends.

        I remember the Panthers being extremely disappointed in the fact that his game was so average, and I think the Flames are probably feeling the same way today.

        He might be the 1st player in the history of the game to be THAT BIG, and THAT GREAT A SKATER – and still be that far from being a great player.

        He’s very average and way, way over paid.

    • issie74 says:

      I agree with you Loonie re: the players, there was a lot of blame to go around last night.

      Gallagher,Galchenyuk,Eller looked good and they also looked interested … it was not pretty.

      NorthTOHab

  5. habs-fan-84 says:

    Hypochondriac’s Inside Out.com

    • Bripro says:

      “Hypochondriac” ???
      Really? What diseases? What does everyone have here?
      Is it contagious? Where’s my rubber suit?
      Oh my God….. we should shut down the site. Yeah that’s it. Let’s shut down the site before anyone else gets it……

  6. jedimyrmidon says:

    So it looks like opposing teams are aiming high: looking to embarrass the Habs both on the scoreboard and physically. The Habs have become the target for complete and utter domination.

    Instead of realizing this, and rising up to meet the opponent, the Habs seem to all be looking behind them, waiting for a goal to be scored, AND forgetting that they still need to defend and play smartly. Who cares if goaltending seems to be shaky? It’s not an excuse to be even WORSE in front of Price or Budaj.

    So instead of an ‘us’ vs. ‘them’ game, it becomes ‘some of us’ vs ‘most of us & them’. They’re spectators in their own zone.

  7. jmsheehy19 says:

    1st of all, “Would Josh Gorges be playing Top Four minutes on a good hockey team?”

    Apparently top 5 in the league no longer constitutes “a good hockey team.”

    2ndly, “if the team we’ve seen in games 41 and 42 is the real Canadiens…”

    42 games is the sample size of the “real Canadiens,” not 2.

    C’mon Boone, tone down the overreactions. We’ve only lost 3 games consecutively once this season. And you know what, if we lose the next game to rematch that low point, it still doesn’t magically erase the success we’ve had this season.

    A little faith and perspective, for sanity’s sake.

  8. Timo says:

    As per TSN, NHL has requested an in-person hearing with White.

    • Alex_425 says:

      5+ games, we can assume?

      But I’m no expert….

    • Mick says:

      To bad for White. He has heart and showed it last year when we had no enforcer. Bad luck or brain dead?
      When will this team have an in-person chat with “Little David”.
      He had more minutes than every forward against the Flyers.
      What is up with the coaching staff? Why the f… do they prop this guy up.
      Why play “Little David” so often, why?

    • Kooch7800 says:

      I didn’t see anything that wrong with the hit. it was a bit of a charge but he didn’t target the head nor did he extend his elbow

      “Keep your stick on the Ice”

      • Alex_425 says:

        Neither did I, I was barely able to catch the second period last night.

        Just to clarify, I’m not being sarcastic when I say “5+ games?”, I just always thought that in-person hearings usually mean tougher suspensions than just over the phone. Is that still usually the case?

        But I’m no expert….

        • Kooch7800 says:

          You are right Alex it will be more than 5 games but I am confused as to why. White is not a repeat offender and I am still confused as to why he is being suspended period

          “Keep your stick on the Ice”

          • habs12 says:

            Cause the league will take any chance it can get to screw the Habs. Seriously though, I thought that he would get suspended, but over the phone hearing – maybe 3 games max. He targeted his head by raising/positioning his shoulder to hit it. The only reason why I can think it’s an in-person is cause Huskins got concussed from it and is now out.

        • Kooch7800 says:

          I was hoping someone could tell me why it was dirty..

          1) it wasn’t a blind side the D man saw him coming
          2) he didn’t go after his head
          3. The d man tried to dodge the hit and that was the main reason he got smoked in the head

          what are we missing?
          https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r-PQKhOc4s8

          “Keep your stick on the Ice”

    • Bripro says:

      5 games or more…

  9. habfan53 says:

    To Mike Boone

    Mike I would like to say I am dissapointed in you. You are a journalist and a good one, with an excellent command of the English language. Yet twice in the article above you drop the F bomb.
    No you did not spell it out you used acronyms both times, yes we get upset but there is no excuse. I am sure there are some young readers here and I object for their sake.

  10. ross says:

    Boone: The Toronto moment of silence had shouters too, though that doesn’t make it any better. I’m an ashamed Canadian that we couldn’t manage 15 seconds at *either* game without some apes hooting from the back rows.

  11. sprague cleghorn says:

    At practice this morning, it’s Weber in, Beaulieu out.

    … ‘ow could we forget that?

    • krob1000 says:

      I think I would prefer Drwiskie out. That could be a pretty potent second pp pairing with Weber and Beaulieu.

      • ebk says:

        potent for whom?

        • krob1000 says:

          There is more than the pp too….Drewisie rarely advances the puck. He almost always does the “safe” corss ice d to d pass…all that does is stop your forwards and allow the forecheck to set up. At least Beaulieu/Kaberle/Weber/Emelin/Diaz…everyone not named Gorges and Drewiskie and Bouillon is somewhere in the middle…all advance the puck and contribute more than people think.
          Our d is strong overall but I think the Drewiskie addition and Emelin loss combined make the d much weaker than they were a couple of weeks ago. Maybe Drewiskie needs time but as of now I see no way he can eat the minutes with Markov at even strength and he has little offensive value.

    • twilighthours says:

      Seriously? This is first move by MT I seriously dislike. They’ve let poor Weber rot on the bench for two months – what do they expect to get out of him now?

      I could go on, but have no zest. I think this is silly.

      • Loonie says:

        It’ll take the focus off of Markov and Gorges and their horrid play of late.

        Beaulieu wasn’t good last night but he wasn’t alone by any stretch.

    • HammerHab says:

      They should be replacing Beaulieu with Tinordi….he’s more likely to fill Emelin’s role than anyone else we have….a role we clearly need filled.

      ———————————–

      It’ll always be Habs Inside/Out to me

  12. A week ago we were scouting spots on the parade route and today we are ready to dismantle and rebuild this team into a playoff contender. Such is the bipolar nature of the fans and armchair GM’s of the Montreal Canadiens.

    The Canadiens need to get back to doing the simple things well. Too many forwards below the goal line giving up odd man rushes, D confused on assignments on who to cover in front of the net, bad line changes, bad zone clearances, the list goes on an on they aren’t executing the simple stuff. All it takes is one bad bounce when you aren’t executing and it ends up in the back of the net regardless of who you put between the pipes.

    Let the coaching staff do their jobs and have faith in the payers to pull their heads out of their collective rear ends and get back to winning hockey games the way they know how.

  13. HardHabits says:

    I slept great last night. Habs? Meh. They’re rebuilding and weren’t even supposed to be in the thick of things. But I gotta laugh at all the little Timo’s bitching at everything and nothing like their foetid rumblings are any more sweet sounding than the gas I just passed. I won’t read them, not more than a few sentences to get the gist because it’s the same venting, mindless and endless prattle.

    In life it helps to look at the positive. A truly clever person sandwiches a criticism between two compliments. It shows that you actually observe rather than just shoot your mouth off in rampant abuse.

    Some people, actually many people, here are in need of either a major sit down with a psychiatrist, either that or a physical therapist. It’s hard to imagine that anybody could be so hopeless and pathetic that the results of a hockey game, an event that their insignificant little bellowing has zero impact on, could so disturb them so.

    The Habs sucked last night and are getting exposed. It is based upon a few things. Price is not there. Mentally he’s either fatigued or unfocused. Emelin’s loss exposes the Habs softness and lack of size. The Habs clinched the play-offs and are coasting. The anti-climatic splooge just left their game limp. They’ll have to get it up in time for the play-offs. There is only one splooge left. Once in bed with the hot honey before their eyes and within reach I am sure the Habs will be engorged with desire and erect with purpose. They just need some gentle stroking in the meantime.

    So. Is this a Cup contending team? They looked it only a few days ago. Now they look like they’re in for a sweep at the hands the first team they meet.

    The good news is, this slump is happening now, in time to correct it for the games that really matter. I will be patient with this team. Like until 2015 patient.

    • twilighthours says:

      The positive sandwich. A critique between two slices of praise.

      • HammerHab says:

        you name the sandwich based on the middle part. nobody calls it a bread sandwich. so in this case it’s a negative sandwich or the preferred $hit sandwich.

        ———————————–

        It’ll always be Habs Inside/Out to me

        • HardHabits says:

          Wrong. The bread makes the sandwich as much as the meat. Would you eat smoked meat on anything other than rye? It’s a critical sandwich, and the meaty criticism is in between two hearty and healthy fibrous whole grain slices of complimentary and reasonable insights.

          The sh*t sandwich that so many love to chew upon is sh*t in between two slices of sh*t. With sh*t sauce and sh*t juice to go with it.

    • punkster says:

      Cute…s*it happens…they’ll work it out.

      ***SUBBANGIN’ NOW BABY!!!***

  14. Dr.Rex says:

    Personally I will support Price to the end, whether that end with the Habs is 2025 or 2013. But here are a few interesting questions.

    a) Why does Price get more respect form other fans?
    b) Can we honestly say his new pads have had no impact whatsoever on the last two games?
    c) IF he struggles like the last two games for every start til the playoffs what happens?
    d) IF his struggles continue into the playoffs what happens?
    e) Will Therrien ever treat Price, Armstong, Moen and DD with the same aggressiveness that he shows towards White, Subban and Eller?
    f) Will Prust have to fight every single game, and if so will Moen give him his shoulder to do his job moving forward?
    g) Goalies have been winning games consistently for teams like Toronto, Boston and Ottawa. HOW long will “the next Team Canada goalie” have until he is expected to do the same by the coaching staff?

    • NL Hab says:

      a) Because most Habs fans are morons and don’t realize a good goalie when the see one. Most are still caught in the glory years and expect everybody to be as good or better than Roy, Richard, Bealiveau, etc.
      b) His pads def had an impact
      c) We are screwed
      d) We are screwed
      e) No, Therrien likes to play favorites and outcast others. This will never change.
      f) Moen has done a complete 180 from the past few years. Cannot explain what happened to that guy. Hopefully this will be addressed in the offseason
      g) I would take Price as my # 1 starting goalie over any other goalie in the league. Some goalies will gave great years, but Price is consistent. He will win his Vezina trophies, you can count on that.

      Et Le But

    • Timo says:

      a) Because of his silky smooth hair, of course
      b) I heard it was his vodka binge drinking
      c) He will still be the starter
      d) Habs are out in 4 straight
      e) No. Therrien has shown that he is a phony when it comes to living by his own words
      f) Actually, I think that Prust will smarten up and say “Hey, these guys don’t do jasksh!t ans still collect their pay. Why should I bust my hump?”
      g) Next time we have a competent coaching staff.

      • Bripro says:

        OK what’s with you today?
        They go through a mild slump and your saying ” Next time we have a competent coaching staff. “???
        Seriously Timo?
        This year’s record doesn’t show the contrary?
        Let’s face it, this is not the most talented team in the NHL and the coaching staff have them playing well beyond what anyone expected.
        We should be happy they’ve offered us a very exciting season.
        And it’s not over yet….
        Oye… doomsayers…

    • Timooo says:

      We were blessed with outstanding performances in our past 2 cup wins…that won’t happen with Price. He isn’t that type of goalie. HE’s a very good golaie mind you, and techncially sound, but isn’t going to have the wow factor of Monsier Roy. The bar’s been set high in Montreal, and Price has so much to fulfill to get the respect he deserves. THis is THE HARDEST market to play goaltender in…bar none. What am I getting at? It’s this….Price is solid, and will do his job to allow our team to win games. He will NOT however, stand on his head to win games for the team on a regular basis. The team needs to play better in front (Notice how they do when Budaj is in net?)

      Timooo=Timo with more Cowbell!

  15. Kooch7800 says:

    Like commandant said earlier in the season…this team isn’t as good as first team in the east and are not as bad as last place either.

    I think this still rings true. We are only 40 plus games into a shortened season. If this was a full season we would only be at the half way point and this is where teams start dropping off or start to excel. We have some holes that need to be filled and our Defense is a little shaky as our upcoming prospects are not ready yet. We should have probably added someone at the deadline other than just Drewskie but I think MB is looking long term.

    I do think we should have went after Douglas Murray. We have 3 second rounders and could have given one up and a conditional for 2014 cause he is the type of d man we are currently missing.

    We are making the playoffs and at the start of the season every single poster here would have taken that as a win this season.

    I am not expecting a first round victory though

    “Keep your stick on the Ice”

    • Ghosts of the Forum says:

      To be honest, I’m not sure Murray is worth that, especially looking ahead to next year. I think MB did the right thing. I especially wouldn’t want him to trade away the Calgary or Nashville second rounders as they’ll be high.

      I have maintained since the Habs started playing so well that a first round playoff series win would be a successful season for this club. Everyone wants to win now, which is understandable, but if you look at this team, it’s very young and they are going to be very good for seasons to come.

      None of this is really disagreeing with what you’re saying, haha. Just a ramble. I do think people forget how young the team is though (including Pricey)

      • Kooch7800 says:

        I agree with you (minus Murray) and the only reason I say that is with the three 2nd rounders we could have moved one and still had a really strong draft. MB is a smart man though so who knows what he has up his sleeve.

        You are right about the team being young and I think they have some very strong pieces. Galchenyuk is the centre we have all been waiting for and in a year or 2 will be dominant.

        I do with that they would put Gallagher with some bigger bodies to protect him though. I am worried about him getting another knock on the noggin

        “Keep your stick on the Ice”

  16. bwoar says:

    Holy crap, I just realized the people I thought were trolls, were actually right all along! Well, this is certainly embarrassing.

    This team is a lot worse that it’s played through 40 games. I see it now. In the future I will get all my hockey advice from the REAL voices of reason: The Dude, adamkennelly, RetroMikey and of course the inimitable Timo, who actually like the Habs a lot more than most, and hasn’t been wrong yet.

    Bizzaro day. I guess I’m on the dark side from here on in. This team stinks and it’s hard to imagine we’re going to get any better with MB and MT at the helm. Where’s that Tank guy and what do I have to do to get in on this before we crap out in the first round?

    “thoroughbred”

    • twilighthours says:

      This paragraph is the best thing in my life today:

      “This team is a lot worse that it’s played through 40 games. I see it now. In the future I will get all my hockey advice from the REAL voices of reason: The Dude, adamkennelly, RetroMikey and of course the inimitable Timo, who actually like the Habs a lot more than most, and hasn’t been wrong yet.”

  17. Skeptical says:

    WOW! There’s so many smart people on this site I can’t understand how MB and MT keep their jobs.

    • Timooo says:

      MB and MT are frequent visitors to this site. Want to guess which ones they operate under?

      Timooo=Timo with more Cowbell!

    • Mustang says:

      According to some here at H I/O last week, MB and MT were the best GM and coach in the NHL. Everything they touched or did was golden. Every move, no matter how small or insignificant, was magic. P.K, was far better than Larry Robinson, Bobby Orr, or Doug Harvey while Carey Price was the best goaltender of all time. The team had gone from last to first and this was one of the most incredable turnarounds of all time. This week after 2 losses, the world has come to an end. The sky is falling. No one knows what they are doing, the GM has made stupid mistakes bringing in useless people that do not deserve to be in the NHL. The coach and half the players are bums and should be tarred and feathered.

      My take is that the team was playing better than anyone expected. The GM and coach had made some very good decisions that were panning out quite nicely. The players were working hard as a team and were having fun. For what ever reason, Price simply has not been very good in the past 2 games and his team mates have not been making it any easier for him. Many of the players have gone from a very hard work ethic to just going through the motions. Why has this changed? I don’t know. But I do know that they must either get their act together very quickly or their playoff run is going to be very short.

      In the mean time folks, RELAX.

  18. shiram says:

    There is only one person that can break the DD line, and he already did it once, will he do it again?
    Bergevin trading Cole was about the only time someone messed with the DD line.
    I wonder why it is so.

    • Ghosts of the Forum says:

      They were pretty good last night…had two of the goals. No idea what their +/- was, probably as deplorable as the rest of the team. But still, at least they were getting chances.

      Much more concerning has been the play of Pleky. He’s my favourite player on the team, but for the last few weeks he hasn’t seemed himself.

  19. adamkennelly says:

    who starts in Pit? is White done with the Habs for good – I think so. He’ll get a big suspension, and he deserves a few games but if you watch the play in real time, Huskins pulled back, which is what caused the contract to be directly on the end of his chin. Still – you need to be more careful when going after a player and target the chest.

  20. Dr.Rex says:

    Ryan White let his team down last night but at least he is showing signs of life and attempting to make an impact. Although White played less then a minute and put us in a hole he still played better then Moen last night.

  21. Jocko says:

    I knew this site was going to be in upheavel today. Two losses where the team took it on the chin is not something I am going to worry about. The positive things to take from this is that this stuff happens and is not reflective on the season as a whole. This is a good team, yeah it has holes, but every team does.

    Oh, and we are NOT the worst fans in the league, but by far the most passionate, win or lose. I personally could not see myself cheering for any other sports team with the tenacity I cheer for this team, win or lose!

    I don’t want to see Maurice tonight, I want to see The Rocket!

  22. L Elle says:

    What’s up boyz?
    He let up a goal again
    Again?
    Well, what’s up with this guy?
    Does he really suck it that much?

    No, man, I love him he is fine
    He saves a lot of nice goals for us
    I know he used to do nice stuff for us
    But what has he done for us lately?

    Used to be a time when he would steal games
    Used to brag about it all the time
    His fans seem to think that he’s so non chalant
    But fans say sieve is on their mind
    Who’s right?

    What has he done for me lately?
    yeah yeah
    What has he done for me lately?
    yeah yeah

    Used to score huge goals almost every night
    Skated until I thought he’d lose his breath
    Now it seems his skatin’ feet are always a step behind
    Good thing I know everything, the coach doesn’t
    Ain’t that a shame?

    What has he done for me lately?
    yeah yeah
    What has he done for me lately?
    yeah yeah

    Fans never ask for more than they deserve
    And you know it’s their truth
    They seem to think they’re God’s gift to this team
    I’m tellin’ you no way

    You ought to be thankful for the little guys
    But little guys are all soft and no good
    They’re always worn down and hurt, if only we had Parros
    GM says not this or next year Kaberle
    Who’s right, who’s wrong?

    Chorus

    Get with it

    Trade,demote

    I’m not fine

    What have you done for me lately?

    Chorus

    • habsfan0 says:

      As they say,love is blind.

      • L Elle says:

        Yes, and so is hate, apparently.

        • habsfan0 says:

          Doubt is not hate,my dear.

          • L Elle says:

            Everyone is a mirror image to us. Do you doubt yourself?

            I have faith in our team and it’s goalie(s). This is not blind love.

          • habsfan0 says:

            I too,have faith in our team.
            In our Number 1 goalie…not so much, as evidenced by his standing among NHL goalies in save %…currently sitting at #29.

            I’ve ALWAYS maintained Carey Price is a good to excellent regular season goaltender. However,IMHO,he is not a “MONEY” goalie who will rise to the occasion when the pressure is squarely on his shoulders..i.e….shootouts,regular season OT,and ESPECIALLY…playoff OT.

            At the age of 25,there is no doubt that CP is still very young and is still maturing and learning his craft. They say a goalie doesn’t truly reach his prime until his late 20′s or early 30′s. Time is definitely on his side. However,having said that, let’s not lose sight of the fact that CP was drafted in 2005..a full 8 years ago. He is not a novice,either,by any stretch of the imagination. And, while it may be eminently unfair to compare him with another goalie from a different era,the fact of the matter is,playing in Montreal comes with certain “burdens”. One of these “burdens” is that a goalie playing for the Canadiens will ALWAYS be compared to past greats in nets like Roy,Dryden, and Plante among others. Patrick Roy won the Conn Smythe & Stanley Cup in his rookie year at the age of 20 I believe by “rising to the occasion”. Whether CP can ultimately do the same at some point is open to debate. One thing I would suggest to perhaps rectify the situation,is change goaltender coach. Price appears to be way too comfortable with his current mentor, and replacing Groulx with someone like Patrick Roy might work WONDERS with Carey,as I believe his main problem is between his ears.

            If all this makes me a Price “hater” rather than a Price “doubter” in your eyes, then so be it.

          • L Elle says:

            habs0, it doesn’t matter what I think, and yes, maybe a change of coach might be recommended.

            Obviously, I see something in Price you don’t, and vice versa. Did you see our porous defense last night? No goalie great had to endure that.

            But still, we can have this conversation again in 10 years, and maybe then history will put us on the same page.

  23. jonny55 says:

    Completely agree with you about the total lack of class that some morons can’t keep quiet during a moment of silence. Embarrassing.

  24. ZepFan2 says:

    The trolls are in full force today. Too bad they weren’t around when the team was winning. Must have been sad days for these losers when the team didn’t lose for them.

    Happy days are here again for them today!

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  25. BostonRob says:

    As a Bostonian, I’d like to thank the fans for their respect last night. The few yahoo’s mentioned above were far outnumbered by pure class. Thank you.

    • Timo says:

      I just read today that one of the victims was an 8 year old boy waiting for his dad at the finish line. As a father, it is absolutely heartbreaking to read something like this.

      • KenD29 says:

        very sad. And his mother and sister were also injured.

        All About Work Ethic

      • Jocko says:

        Just tragic. Being a father as well, I can’t imagine what this man is going through. I am sure we can all pray for this man and his family to get through this.

        Just so completely senseless…..

        I don’t want to see Maurice tonight, I want to see The Rocket!

    • KenD29 says:

      sadly BostonRob, there are a few yahoos amongst the crowd. But the majority do not follow their lead, are with you and the many other people who have been affected by this terrible tragedy. Our hearts and prayers are with everyone.

      All About Work Ethic

    • frontenac1 says:

      Terrible occurrence yesterday in Boston . Stay strong and keep safe amigo.

    • Propwash says:

      BostonRob, may all who were affected by this tragedy stay strong. I’ve never been to the city, but all I hear are good things about it.
      We may be rivals as hockey teams, but this runs much deeper than that as human beings. I really hope whoever did this faces a real Boston beatdown.
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  26. New says:

    I think the GM said the goal this year was to make the playoffs and that anything could happen then. The team made the playoffs. Now they get to see how players play when the pressure is off, who mails it in, and who doesn’t like losing. Surprisingly some people give it their all, but really aren’t vested in the team and the cup, just in their careers. This sort of thing is pretty important to identify.

    There are boorish fans at the Bell? First time that has been reported. Must bus them in from Ontario or New Brunswick. The people in Quebec are so tolerant and reasonable that it can’t be them. Ottawa charters maybe.

  27. Ghosts of the Forum says:

    Guess we were sitting on a bubble the first 40 games and it’s the last two that have exposed the team for what it really is, eh?

  28. Timo says:

    Funny how I start hearing rumbling about MB and MT now that team’s weaknesses start getting exposed more and more. Of course, I know nothing about hockey. And it takes a seasoned GM who spent many many years in the NHL to see that our D is weak, that Desharnais is a joke, that 4th line is worthless, along with the second and the first lines. It was absolutely not obvious that Habs needed to be tougher, meaner, more aggressive. Who could have seen say 10 games in to the season that Desharnais would turn into… well… a little munchkin that opposition would swat like a fly. Who could ahve possibly seen that a 7th dmen who was a healthy scratch for most of the season wouldn’t replace Subban or Markov. I know I certainly could not have seen Moen being invisible after he was invisible last season. I totally thought he’d come out and play like Neil and score 30 goals on top of that.

    Damn, it take some serious brains and lifetime of hockey experience to have figured all this out. Thank god with got Marc Bergevin.

    • New says:

      Geez…Timo, you have any idea how many times you’re going to read:
      Timo, April 16, 2013 10:56 AM “Of course, I know nothing about hockey.”? It’ll probably end up as a signature or two.

    • Ghosts of the Forum says:

      Rumbling about MB and MT from where/whom?

      MT is a leading candidate for the Adams, two games doesn’t change that, haha.

      And MB is quickly garnering respect around the league as an astute, talented GM.

      • Timo says:

        Oh FFS, who gives rats ass about individual awards? What good is his candidate for the Adams if he doesn’t get past the first round? MB made more mistakes than good moves, so far, so the jury is still out on him.

        Are you going to brag that we have a Jack Adams candidate coach and an astute GM?

    • NL Hab says:

      I cannot understand how DD gets so much ice time. He is by far the worst player on our team and gets rewarded with more ice time. I’m not going to get into the Franco debate as it has been done so many times here. Therrien and Bergevin made a lot of great decisions this year, but not addressing the D at the deadline was a huge mistake. And Therrien feeling the need to get DD Going at all costs is completely unacceptable.
      If Galchenyuk or Eller had as much ice time and PP time as DD, they would have twice as many points as him. I’m happy he got his contract because he is a good story. However, the Montreal media are trying to convince everyone he is the 2nd coming of Marty St. Louis. So far the only people convinced of this are Bergevin and Therrien.

      Et Le But

  29. durocher says:

    I’ve slept on it, and still believe that MB should call up Tinordi and St-Denis ASAP. Tinordi is big, keeps it simple, and can help stabilize the D (even though he’s a rookie). St-Denis played well for us last year; he similarly keeps it simple and is a no-frills defenseman. I’d let Beaulieu sit to get some perspective from the pressbox. I’d also sit Moen, who may be the biggest disappointment on the Habs all season. Elevating Bourque so quickly may have been a mistake, too; he may need more time to get back into the swing of things.

    MaxPower-Pleks-Ryder
    Gally27-Eller-Gally11
    Prust-DD-Gio
    Bourque-Halpern

    Tinordi-PK
    Markov-Gorgy
    Cube/Drewiske/St-Denis

    • Timo says:

      When Tinordi played here last time there was nothing from him that would indicate that he’d do the things you say he would do. He looked as good (or as bad) as the rest of the D. I am not knocking him down, I am just saying that him, Bealieu or Pateryn – it won’t make any difference.

      • KenD29 says:

        have to agree with you re Tinordi. I was somewhat disappointed for a player of his size, did not use it to his advantage.

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        • NL Hab says:

          These guys are still 20 and 21 year old kids. Let them get there feet wet and develop before passing too much judgement. Tinordi has played what 3 or 4 games and you are disappointed?

          Et Le But

    • durocher says:

      After the season, we should dump Gio, Markov, and Moen; I’d sign Yale’s Antoine Laganiere; I’d also let Halpern walk (playing Dumont instead); I’d trade for NYR’s Brian Boyle

      MaxPower-DD-Gally11
      Bourque-Pleks-Ryder
      Gally27-Eller-Prust
      Laganiere-Dumont-Boyle
      White

      Gorgy-PK
      Emelin-?
      Cube-Tinordi

      • Dr.Rex says:

        Letting players walk for nothing? IS this BG or PG?

        Ain’t going to get anything worth while for Markov considering his true value. Giving away a 50 pt d man for nothing is the type of decision that would make you an honorary member of Mike Milbury’s lunch pale gang.

      • Dr.Rex says:

        But if anyone is willing to give up anything for Moen then yes make it happen.

  30. The Dude says:

    So the Therrien and MB magic is wearing thin but the good thing is the reality of the Gainey and Gauthier years are beaming through ‘follow the light at the end of the tunnel,lol’. As we all knew and still know the Habs team from last year and this is UNFK’N BALANCED. You can’t have an NHL team in our division this SOFT and unbalanced,then add a soft and small Defence and A LIL ABOVE AVERAGE GOALTENDING that’s way overpaid AND IN A NORMAL SEASON this team collapses like we have all seen before. And the way Toronto and Philly manhandled the Habs al la ‘BOY’S VS MEN’ was another total embarrassment.
    Look ,I love my Habs as much as anyone but you don’t have to have watched them for 50 year ‘like me’ to know this won’t work and if it does ,not for long before the wheels fall off! This team in the off season needs a reality check from MB,Therrien,Molson,Timmons and the rest of the scouts that in this NHL division you need a GIANT TEAM of Hockey PLayers whom are Warriors and Vikings that can make room for the smaller talent on the team while protecting THE FRONT OF THE NET and SCORING GOALS and BEATING UP BULLIES!

  31. Maksimir says:

    Here’s something for perspective…

    At the beginning of April – the Pens lost 4-1 & 6-1 in consecutive games… that’s a combined -8 goal diff… they got waxed in those games. They are still doing just fine.

    Montreal got beat 5-1 & 7-3 .. goal diff -8 … don’t hang them from the rafters yet… lets see how the next two games go.

    My single biggest concern right now is how they can fill the obvious gap on Defense with Emelin out.

  32. Leafsblow22 says:

    So Price has the yips… He’ll come around!

    I paid decent coin to be at the game on Saturday in TO- 100 level -Had not it been for the copious amounts of beer consumed pre-game and in-game that could have been pretty painful! The one consolation was that I photo-bombed the Jumbo-Tron with the Leafs Blow Jersey…

    But I digress, What happened to Therien’s meritocracy? Posters have been astutely pointing out that Eller has been consistently outperforming DD while securing inferior quality and quantity minutes… It was one thing when the team was ultimately winning but if this continues when does MT’s hand get forced?

  33. SteverenO says:

    talk about losing ugly.

    The losses are not as concerning as the wasted opportunities.

    The remaining games need to be considered as “training camp” for the playoffs. The playoffs start a new season and the coaching staff should use the remaining time to experiment with different olayers and combinations.

    1- It is unreasonable to rely ONLY on two defenceman to carry the powerplay. Bullion Gorges and Drewiske are definitely not inconsideration. Beaulieu does not seem to be ready. We absolutely NEED to develop a forward to play the point. There is still enough time to work on this in practice and game situations.

    2- It is become obvious that Markov is a tired player. he needs and deserves a rest. He should be given one or two games off between now and seasons end and a significantly reduced work-load the other games.

    3- Moen- Doing good work on the Pk and playing responsible defensively but not being a physical presence and contributing nothing at all ti the offense right now. Will he be useful in the playoffs? Maybe, he needs to be given a games off and the team needs to evaluate Blunden and Dumont in case Moen fails to “step up” his game.

    4: Defence: The return of Diaz will help, but not enough. Weber and Tinordi and maybe Pateryn and even Kaberle need to be evaluated. Gorges, and Bouillion along with Markov can each use a game or two off between now and the end of the season to allow us time to properly evaluate the available resources.

    By installing some youth and vigor in the lineup, and having some players who are fighting for a spot on the playoff roster (Weber, Dumnt, Blunden, Tinordi, etc.) the team should play a more energized game and while they may still lose, It is unlikely that they would look as bad as they have the last two games. There is no shame in losing, but it is unacceptable to be , outworked. outskated, and outhustled, especially in your home rink.

    Another benefit of not going with the “starting line-up” is that losing a game will not hurt the confidence of the team as they can believe that they lost because certain veterans weer being rested.

    Evenone playoff series takes a physical toll, I believe that trying to attain higher ranking (not as if that,s working anyway) is much less important than doing what is necessary to ensure our older and physically beat up players (Markov, Bouillion, Moen, etc.) are as fresh and as possible heading into the post season.

    regards,

    Steve O.

  34. CalgaryHab says:

    More embarrassing than the fact they were trounced in the last two games is that the two rookies have been showing the rest of the team how to play with intensity and how to work. This has been a season long issue with the likes of Gorges, Moen, Max and DD.

    Last night reminded me of when the habs acquired smallish but hard working Dr. Recchi (he hadn’t earned his doctorate yet) up against the Legion of Doom (the line that Savard help form). Recchi would be the only one busting his ass – trying to save face from being apart of such a lopsided trade – only for the habs to get pounded by the much larger and meaner Philly team.

    Today we have Gallagher being the biggest player in a Habs jersey, going to the dirty areas of the ice and doing what it take to be rewarded. Theoren Fleury once said that “there are bags of money sitting in front of the net, all you have to do is go get them”. Huge is the contract that Gally will one day sign.

    The bottom line is that a 5’9″ rookie shouldn’t have to lead this team – but he’s doing it anyway.

  35. Skeptical says:

    This team has given us fans a good year and that’s all you’re gonna get out of them. Some people on here had a parade planned for June. They must not know Hockey.

    This is a good team and they’re in the playoffs but because we are a soft team we’re not gonna do good. Accept the fact we made it to the playoffs. Don’t think Stanley cup it’s not gonna happen. We’ll see them for one round. Anything beyond that will be a bonus.

    If you think this way you won’t be surprised and you won’t be one of these people who want the coach fired, want price gone, want half of the team gone. like I said before. We have lots of talent but we don’t have the toughness to beat the tough teams on a nightly basis.

    Teams like Toronto, Philly, Boston, we have them beat by a mile when it comes to talent but. When they play us tough. We’re like schoolyard kids and we get whipped physically and on the scoreboard. we’ve seen it almost every time we play these guys.

    This maybe a little early to be talking like this but. Over the summer MB has to look for some tough Guys that can play hockey not fighters. They spend most of their time collecting their paycheck in the penalty box. Soft talent is not the answer in today’s NHL ….. One or two players on a team yes.

    Anyway. I’m proud of the Habs for what they’ve done this year. We have good management and coaching and I couldn’t ask for more from a Re-Building team.

  36. johnnylarue says:

    Here’s my ‘tldr’ post from last night:

    On Travis Moen:

    Vinny finally gave the straight goods on Moen on l’AC tonight. He said yes, Moen suffered a bad concussion last season–this is not a secret—and now just wants to play out his contract and retire with his brain intact.

    That means minimal fighting, minimal physicality.

    Was it dishonest of him to sign a 4-year contract knowing that he’d necessarily be less interested in the rough stuff? No. Bergevin knew he’d had a season-ending concussion and signed him anyway, probably expecting he’d be used more often as a defensive forward on a third line, as opposed to a full-on grinder on a fourth.

    And Moen had every right to expect this too, given that he’d been the de facto first/second-line substitute under the Count.

    Enter: Brandon Prust.

    I think Moen’s demotion to the fourth line bummed him out, and the fact that he has made a conscious decision not to be a physical player anymore gives you this: a big-bodied defensively responsible winger who doesn’t hit, score, or make plays, and whose primary attribute is not making mistakes.

    I obviously respect Moen for wanting to preserve his health and collecting his paycheque–and in fact, it’s his right to play hockey in any manner he chooses. Nothing in his contract says, “You are being paid to hit people.”

    But eventually he’s going to have to acknowledge that he’s making himself essentially useless as a hockey player in the process, and consequently prepare himself for some major changes in perspective over the next three seasons.

    Given that he is among a minority of big, physical players among Habs forwards, he simply has to play physical to be of real use to this team. He has to make this team bigger. By not doing that, and by claiming the roster spot of a more well-suited player, his presence effectively makes us smaller.

    The End.

    • KenD29 says:

      thus shame on Bergevin for signing him to a 4 year contract at his age of 33. Maximum 2 years would have been sufficient if that.

      Same goes with giving DD that 4 year contract. What was the rush giving him 4 years?! Could have waited until the end of this season before offering him an extension for that length.

      All About Work Ethic

      • Timo says:

        My biggest beef with Bergevin is that he was trigger happy to give money away to stiffs like Moen, Desharnais and Gorges, yet he had this ridiculously long penny pinching negotiations with Subban, by far THE best play this team had in the last 20 years. Now, Subban is a candidate for the best dman of the year, and he probably just waiting for the day to tell Bergevin – pay up, or I am the f out of here.

      • Un Canadien errant says:

        Travis Moen was not signed “to a 4 year contract at his age of 33″. He was 30 when he signed last summer. He will be 33 at the end of the contract.

        http://www.hockeydb.com/ihdb/stats/pdisplay.php?pid=45163

        He was an Unrestricted Free Agent last summer, so he had leverage and used it. To say that two years would have been sufficient is a team-biased perspective. If Marc Bergevin had offered just that, Travis Moen would have gone somewhere else. His agent would have known he’d get more somewhere else. Every team is looking for big tough wingers and playoff performers.

        He’s having a difficult season, and we all wish he would support Brandon Prust in the physical department, but to say he’s not worth the contract he signed last summer is revisionism, and not accurate. At the time, it was a reasonable deal that most were all happy about.

    • Habsbill24 says:

      No point wasting a buyout on Moen. Waivers and a permanent trip to Hamilton makes the most sense. Reduces the cap hit to 900k and gets him off the NHL roster. He has been a waste of space all season. Gomez like in his lack of usefulness.

  37. Dust says:

    I keep reading that when Diaz comes back our D will be ok. Maybe it’s just me, or my bad memory, but I don’t see it that way. Diaz will help our 2nd wave of the PP but thats it. I remember Diaz not being good in our own end. Not being able to handle people infront of our net. Also getting dominated along the boards so the punk was in our end for a prolonged period.
    Please tell me i have a bad memory cause i don’t think Diaz is the answer to what ails our defence right now. I see Diaz as a 5/6 who can help on the PP. Not a top four minute munching DMan that we lack.

    • KenD29 says:

      the one positive about Diaz coming back is you can cut back on Markov, Boullion and Gorges ice time. Not to mention having Bealieu either 7th or upstairs. Beaulieu has not played well the past two games…

      All About Work Ethic

  38. geo_habsgo says:

    A few people have mentioned Subban’s hot-dogging in some plays the last couple of games. If you notice, he only really tries those end to end rushes when the team is not playing well or when they are trying to come back late in the game. I think it is just part of his competitive nature. He thinks he needs to put the team on his back in tough situations and tries to do it all which tends to bite him in the ass. I wouldn’t worry too much about it.

    In other news, I really wish we had Colby Armstrong with us right now. He is the kind of guy they need in the room in slumps like these to get guys laughing and loosen up. Nothing to be gained from clenching the sticks too tight and developing a losing mentality.

  39. commandant says:

    Best thing right now might be a road game, even if it is Pittsburgh. After those two games it might be good to not have a crowd holding their breath everytime the opposition crosses the blue line.

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  40. William T Love says:

    No matter how much the Price zombies try to spin it.. Six goals on 29 shots is not a great night. Nothing wrong with the Habs overall. They have been playing great except for last night. If Price can go back to playing mediocre the Canadiens will be fine. Have to stay with what they did all year.. Last couple of games Price went for mediocre to awful.. Canadiens play best when they are aggressively forechecking. Even if Price plays bad the next game best way to protect him is to spent time in the oppositions end. When Habs try to play too defensively they just end up looking foolish in their own end. Their greatest asset is speed. Use it.

    • KenD29 says:

      are you serious about nothing wrong with the Habs?!

      Price had to bail out his D on 3 different breakaways in the first. If not for him, it would have been worse.
      D has been plain awful. Markov is -10 !! Worst D on the team for this stat.
      DD, what has he done since signing that nice contract?!
      You do not win too many games spending a whack of time in the penalty box.
      Plecs was awful last night.
      Moen another big contract signing and has been MIA all season.
      Pax for the most part, non existant for the past few weeks.
      Gionta another one MIA of late.

      No one hitting, taking bad penalties last night and Saturday night.

      There was allot wrong with not only Price but the entire team.

      All About Work Ethic

    • Small_Town_Boy says:

      Mr. Love

      Where is your troll nest located?

      • William T Love says:

        You obviously don’t know the meaning of a troll.. My family & I are 3rd generation Habs fans.. Stating facts doesn’t make someone a troll.. It just shows they want their team to win.

  41. Bill H says:

    I was in Buffalo for the game last Thursday. I can see now that I picked the right game to go to. When I watch on tv, I can turn it off or fast forward when things aren’t going well.

    Yes, we lost 2 stinkers. We have been hurt by injuries. But lamenting about what could have been done before the trade deadline does nothing. 20/20 hindsight, as they say. We still have a good team. We will turn it around.

    I am still hoping we nail down first place in the division, but if we don’t let the Leafs bring it on. We can handle them over 7 games.

  42. frontenac1 says:

    Time to kick start The Mojo again amigos! Sit DD and Moen.Bring up Dumont and Sortini. Send Nate back down and Bring up Tinordi. Start Budaj for a couple of games.The Mojo will follow.

  43. rhino514 says:

    No way Markov goes.
    He´ll take a pay cut and stay and the team needs him on the PP. He can still be effective with a lesser role for a few seasons

  44. HabsFanInTampa says:

    We’re missing our “character” guys on the team. Prust, Armstrong, Diaz and Emelin are sorely missed.

  45. adamkennelly says:

    D is suspect now and MB should have gotten Prust some help up front – he is going to regret it – no matter what anyone says – our team is still small and cannot handle getting pounded by a bigger team. unfortunately for all of us with semi-decent memories – last two games looked a helluva lot like last year…freakin D running around like imbeciles .

  46. rhino514 says:

    Not that Emelin is elite or anything, but losing a Dman was the last thing we needed. We have a good forward corps, a good goalie when surrounded by a decent defense, but our D was just borderline for a contending team. Take away our only real physical defenseman from that group and we are in trouble.
    Having said that, if we get Diaz back fast and the team can refocus, it´s still a good team. I like having guys like Prust and even Armstrong around for the playoffs, I think they can be catalysts and let the smaller forwards do their thing. Anyone know if Armstrong is back before the playoffs?
    Also, do we all agree that Moen, for whatever reason, just doesn´t have it anymore? Or will he reappear in the playoffs? It really doesn´t look like it to me.
    We are still in control of our destiny, we can still get a good seeding, heck we can still get second, but they HAVE to play well in pittsburgh and get their confidence back.
    No way can we lose home advantage, and (I can´t believe I´m going to say this) I do not want to face the Leafs. Pretty much anyone else.

  47. Loonie says:

    Good things and bad things.

    Good – You wouldn’t know it to read the game blog comments but Price turned it around last night. Stopped three breakaways, made several saves from in close but did let one stinker by.

    Bad – It looked like Markov had more giveaways in that game than he had in the previous games over the course of the season combined.

    Good – Alex Galchenyuk scored again, his eighth point in the last ten games.

    Bad – With a deficit, Desharnais played over twenty minutes. Seems Michel Therrien believes that our best chance at generating offense comes with Desharnais on the ice. I’m just a fan but that doesn’t appear to be a wise evaluation of our personnel.

    • ed says:

      the rebound control on the 1st goal was not good either. last week Price was dominating those shots and controlling those rebounds. if you check the replay I think you will see that the rebound was directed right back to a dangerous area, allowing Philly the 2nd opportunity to shoot and score on a bad luck deflection.

      • Loonie says:

        It was a hard, low shot from a wide angle. The rebound was put into an easy place for a defenseman to gain possession of the puck and turn up ice or reverse the puck behind the net.

        Just my opinion.

        • adamkennelly says:

          you’re not trying to say that Price was sharp – are you? He made some big saves but started the game sloppy and disinterested again. Budaj should have gotten the start. Price has a problem right now – I’d sit him for a while – let him work it out in practice.

          • Loonie says:

            He was average in my opinion. Not great, not terrible.

            But I try to look beyond the boxscore.

      • Mike Boone says:

        The rebound was right on the stick of Simmonds, the shooter.

        Mike Boone
        Hockey Inside/Out blogger

        • Loonie says:

          The puck was directed to the bottom of the circle and Beaulieu went to the front of the net instead of taking Simmonds.

          If Beaulieu doesn’t collapse to the front of the net the rebound is in the perfect spot for the puck to be taken harmlessly.

          • twilighthours says:

            Loonie, you know your hockey, so you know that this is just wrong. No goalie is ever coached to put a rebound out into the slot for a defenceman. Man, come on.

          • Loonie says:

            The puck wasn’t put into the slot.

            Check out the replay at TSN.

          • twilighthours says:

            Yes, that’s true. There have been so many goals as of late that I got confused. STill not great rebound control, but it was a tough shot to handle.

        • ed says:

          I watch Price’s rebound control as a key indicator on whether he feels confident and comfortable. Early on especially, if you see Price controlling the rebounds, absorbing shots into his equipment, or easily directing shots out of harm’s way, you can pretty much bet the house on him.

      • Cal says:

        Beaulieu blew that play on the first goal. Drewiske had the man to Beaulieu’s right and Beaulieu should have taken the shooter. He ended up turning into the Flyer Drewiske was covering- then the puck deflected in off him.
        That goal is not on Carey Price, rebound “control” bs or not.

    • Sportfan says:

      DD has really been unimpressive of late its time to give the other guys more chances to score over him.

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  48. mfDx says:

    The turning point was Nathan Bealieu’s end to end rush at the end of the Sabres game last week. His nifty moves were impressive, but seemed to have sparked a little competitive bug in Subban, who has since had a number of failed hot-dog end-to-end rushes reminiscent of last year.
    As the anchor fails to “keep it simple”, the ship sways form stern to whatchamacallit.

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  49. Arrow77 says:

    There are many factors why we suddenly suck (we clinched a playoff spot and the motivation dropped, Price’s slump,…) but Emelin’s injury is a concern. Having an injury to the one physical defenseman in our team that can play top-4 minutes is a problem that needs a solution. Either Bouillon or Gorges will have to raise its level and we have to hope Diaz’ comeback will help, if not in the physicality, at least in the amount of time spent on the ice.

  50. Small_Town_Boy says:

    Did someone step on a Troll nest or what? They are coming out in droves!

  51. HAB-Lib says:

    Ha Ha!

    Habs pick a good time to suck. Looks like an early first round exit, unless Bergevin makes a late season trade for Halak, injured or not.

    But u know it’s all Boone’s fault for jinxing the team.

  52. Fargo Habs Fan says:

    Really disappointed to see fans acting like idiots in the moment of silence yesterday. Fair or not, it reflects poorly on the great city and organization. Surprised Boone contrasted to Liverpool supporters though. Remember their Munich song?

  53. ed says:

    is it possible that the team is suffering a “let down”, a lack of motivation, since it clinched a playoff spot?

    When your leadership genuinely believes that they have accomplished what they were expected to do, simply make the playoffs, you see the following:

    - very few hits, and a lack of intensity in the forecheck and backcheck

    - very few blocked shots, players getting in harm’s way, placing the team ahead of their own well being

    - very few battles won against the boards and in front of both nets; leading to less puck possession, less defensive control of rebounds, and less garbage goals for the good guys.

    The leadership on the team need to find a way to right this ship going forward, and convince the players that the goal of just making the playoffs is not nearly enough.

    The team needs to believe that they can go deep in a playoff run, not simply believe that they can make the playoffs.

    • Loonie says:

      Starts at the top.

      Marc Bergevin said at the deadline presser that he was happy with the team making the playoffs.

      Huge rookie GM mistake in my opinion.

      • ed says:

        unfortunately we both agreed at that time that Bergevin had set the bar too low.

      • JF says:

        Vincent Damphousse said something similar on L’Antichambre last night. The bar was set too low. When your team is at or near the top of the Conference most of the way through the season, you should be aiming for the Cup, not just to make the playoffs.

        • Loonie says:

          I don’t think there was a “wrong” way for him to approach the deadline.

          But if you make a move you say it’s to supplement the talent you already have and if you don’t make a move you say it’s because you believe in the group you have.

          You don’t say “the playoffs are the goal”. That mentality is exactly why he ended up filling a vacancy.

  54. Maritime Ron says:

    It’s not about losing a game or 2 or 5 or a blowout, but it’s HOW you lose and taking care of your mates.

    From the Philadelphia Daily news:

    “It feels great,” Hartnell said. “We were quietly confident before the game. We played the right way tonight, too.”

    “When guys get hit, especially when they’re vulnerable, you need guys to step up and defend their teammates,” Hartnell said. “It was a great team victory.”

    Claude Giroux said. “We were going after other guys for our teammates. We need to have more of that.”
    ———-
    Who is took care of Gallagher and Eller last Saturday night when Kadri thought he was Milan Lucic? Who stuck up for Subban when Phaneuf started the slash with him? Besides Prust when he plays, WHO?

  55. habsguy says:

    WOW, I cant believe you guys. this team has given me lots to be proud of this year, not only are we in the playoffs, but we are at or near the top in alot of stats… 4th is wins, 4 in losses, 4 in points, 4th in goals for, 11th in goals against, we have THE MOST 20 point players in the league.
    Now we go through a tough few games and they’re no better than they were lastyear…
    You guys are all as bad as TIMO, but at least when we win, he isn’t here saying how great we are !!!!!

    • NL Hab says:

      As if you didn’t already know. Montreal probably has the worst fans in the league. I compare them to the Simpsons mob. When everything is going great, their is no better place to play, when we lose a couple/few games, we have to trade Price, fire the coaches, etc, etc. I actually feel pretty embarrassed for a lot of these people.

      The main reason for the poor play is that they have already clinched a playoff spot and are finding it hard to play with the same intensity as earlier in the season. They could conceivably drop down to as low as 5th in the Conference, so their is still obviously a lot to play for. However, you can almost tell that they just want to float through the remaining few games, without getting injured, and get the playoffs going.

      To the “fans” on here who have thrown Price and the rest of the team under the bus, go back to Springfield and join the Simpson’s mob. The rest of us here would like to rejoice with what this team has accomplished this year, and we look forward to a long playoff run, hopefully.

      Et Le But

  56. Ozmodiar says:

    As I’ve said before, the Habs need a 1st pairing d-man to play with Subban. Not necessarily an all-star. Just a minute eating shut-down type of player.

    With Diaz and Emelin in the line-up, they’re able to make it work by spreading the minutes fairly evenly across the 3 pairings. When one is hurt, the weakness is obvious. When both are out, the wheels come off.

    An ideal line-up would look something like:
    ??? – Subban
    Gorges – Diaz
    Markov – Emelin
    (Bouillon)

    Otherwise, you’re looking at Gorges or Markov on the top pairing, which isn’t ideal, IMO.

    • Loonie says:

      Problem is the team has to clear cap space to get that guy. So who do you trade?

      It has to be one of Plekanec, Markov or Gionta.

      The loss of any one of them would leave the team very weak at their respective positions in the short term.

      • Ozmodiar says:

        Ryder or Gionta’s cap space. The team wouldn’t be very weak @ RW if this happened. 5M for a 3rd line RW is pricey.

        • Loonie says:

          You have Subban, Eller, Markov, Gionta and Emelin due for new contracts a year from this July.

          Gionta’s salary and the difference between Subban’s now and what he’ll get is nearly a wash.

          Gonna need to let Markov walk or have him take a significant cut in pay.

          • Ozmodiar says:

            It’s not a problem, especially if Ryder’s cap is used.

            In 2014, they’ll be working with a higher salary cap and Gionta and Markov off the books. The only player that will get a significant raise at that time is Subban.

          • NL Hab says:

            Emelin will get a slight raise but nothing too significant. Eller should be due a big raise also. However, I get the feeling that he is not in the plans moving forward, and I think he could possibly be dangled as trade bait. Therien loves DD for some reason, and he is getting all of Eller’s PP time. Eller is a Top 6 forward and I would obviously prefer him on this team over DD, however, that is obviously not going to happen. Gionta and Markov will not be part of the plan moving forward. We have lots of Defensive depth in our system and currently on our roster. Kristo will be the new Gionta after next year.

            Et Le But

      • NL Hab says:

        No way in hell you get rid of Plekanec. I would cross him off of that list immediately. You are absolutely right with the other 2 guys. Both have 1 year left on there respective contracts so it could be as simple as a coin toss. However, I think that Gionta goes this summer.

        Et Le But

    • Maritime Ron says:

      Move Markov and his contract this summer. Go hard after one of Scuderi/Reghr with Subban. Ease in Beaulieu/Tinordi with Emelin Bouillon. Gorges Diaz is fine

  57. commandant says:

    Moving on to #7 on the Draft board.

    http://lastwordonsports.com/2013/04/16/ryan-pulock-2013-nhl-draft-player-profile-7/

    Go Habs Go!
    Your 2013 NHL Draft Headquarters, Now Open.
    http://lastwordonsports.com/

    • NL Hab says:

      The way Nashville and Calgary are playing, it looks like both of those 2nd round picks will be in the 32-36 range, which is great for us. Plus our own pick which will hopefully be the 30th overall selection.
      I know you do a lot of research with the upcoming draft. It was touted last year as a very deep draft, however, I’ve heard more and more through the internet recently that this draft year is going to be nothing spectacular. I know it is very hard to tell because these kids are still so young, but what do you think? Is there a lot of talent towards the end of the 1st round/early 2nd round?

      Et Le But

      • commandant says:

        Its about the same as last year, which is to say its an above average, but not spectacular draft.

        Last year people called the draft weak… I disagreed, and thought it was good, well stocked in defencemen, and a lot of players looked worse than they were due to injuries.

        This year I don’t think it lives up to the hype from earlier in the season, but its still above average.

        Go Habs Go!
        Your 2013 NHL Draft Headquarters, Now Open.
        http://lastwordonsports.com/

  58. HabFanSince72 says:

    When I heard Pierre McGuire raving about the Drewiske pickup I started to get worried. Sounds like Wrong-Way McGuire was wrong again.

    But what could Bergevin have done? Regehr, who isn’t exactly an all-star, cost two second round picks!

  59. keithmacv says:

    Good lord people, calm down…so we hit a low point in the season, it was bound to happen…Price needs to be better as I’ve said before but last night he was hung out to dry on at least 4 of those goals.

  60. Loonie says:

    At the end of the season the Habs have 45 players either on a pro contract or entering restricted free agency.

    Robert Mayer, Ian Schultz and Joe Stejskal are unlikely to have their rights qualified.

    That takes the total to 42.

    The organization has players to sign in Darren Dietz, Dustin Walsh, Magnus Nygren, Olivier Archambault and possibly others like Dalton Thrower, Daniel Pribyl and Mac Bennett.

    In other words, the team is creeping very close to the organizational limit for pro contracts and we could see quite a few faces heading to another organization soon.

  61. ont fan says:

    I remember a time in Pitts. when MT looked this disgusted. With a couple more games like the last 2, it will be interesting this summer. With all the light weight and small player talk that goes on here, this team is in for some real changes. It’s better to know now than the middle of next year. I don’t believe the Emelin injury brought this all on, but if this is the reality check for MB and the rest, I’m ready for some grittier, character players.

  62. arcosenate says:

    These games were awful of course, a waste of time to watch and hardly relective of what kind of team the Habs are this year. They have suffered a let down after clinching a spot. Happens.

    The playoffs are not going to feature any fighting, it will be skating that wins, not fisticuffs.

    Of course they need to get back to their previous hard skating team play, but it’s way too early to jump off the poop deck yet.

  63. Marcusman says:

    Our D was brutal last night…..Beaulieu looked completely out of place…he needs to be sent down and replaced. Why not Weber or even Kaberle……

    Let’s bring Pattern back up, add some size…our hero Markov looked slow and uninterested last night…..Georges missed clearing attempt on the third goal sunk us.

    AS for the forwards…sit Moen….let him stew. Play Dumont, Blunden….#32 has been a passenger all season long….zero contribution in 41 games….ZERO

  64. frontenac1 says:

    Habs are playing scared . They need a Heavyweight Enforcer.There are some playing in the CHL that could help.Max was lucky the Refs stepped in fast last night because Rosehill would have put him in the hospital.

  65. ebk says:

    The last two games can be summed up very succinctly. Price shat the bed against Toronto and the Defense returned the favor last night. End of story.

    Let’s see if this team has the character to rebound.

    Edit: On the bright side, No Crosby or Neal and more than likely, no Malkin on Wednesday.

    • Loonie says:

      Very well put.

    • ont fan says:

      I want to see Crosby, Neal and Malkin. This is the time of year that you have to see where you stand against the top playoff teams. We’re in the playoffs, we don’t need the points. 1st or 5th doesn’t make any differents. This team needs to skate and have a quick transition game going, or you pretty much see what you have. Take a night off and they get thumped.

  66. jackbutt says:

    My take on this game is that we all know the Habs are not a cup team yet. I’m not worried about the futur of the team. Good things are yet to come. Patience my fellow Habs fans, our time is coming.

  67. Steeltown Hab says:

    Gorges worries me going forward, love the intangibles, but his overall choppiness on ice and how lost he is with the puck is a bit much to handle.

    I’m not saying he needs to be dealt, but if there is an opportunity to deal him to a team looking to contend with something nice in return. Not saying they’d do it but St. Louis has to re-sign a ton of guys…including Pietraneglo and Shattenkirk.

    Maybe they part with Shattenkirk for a slightly cheaper, great leader in Gorges + a throw in. Hopeful thinking..

    ———————————

    Lars, PK, Galchenyuk, Pac, Emelin – @J_Perez22

    • DDO_Habs_Fan says:

      Thanks to the McDonaugh trade and getting rid of many 2nd round picks, the Habs have a gap between rookie Ds and vets. Maybe trading a couple of promising 20 year olds for a proven 24 year old is the answer? Who knows…

      “You’re always, always, always looking to make your team better. Always.”- Marc Bergevin

      • ari says:

        how about if they landed O’Byrne instead of drew ski?

        • DDO_Habs_Fan says:

          I think O’Byrne would have been a little better than Drewiskie as he is right-handed and right D is his natural D. You even see in one of the 24CH clips Drewiskie asking Subban if Boullion is a lefty…he must have been concerned about playing the right side. Anyway, MB must have thought he was not worth what the Avs were asking.

          “You’re always, always, always looking to make your team better. Always.”- Marc Bergevin

      • krob1000 says:

        …or they could have used one of their THREE 2nd round picks to lan another quality dman seizing the opportunity that is this season. They have gotten rid of Komisarek, ,O’BYrne, Mcdonagh, Streit, Valentenko and A first rounder in Fischer who was a bust. Second round picks having been traded has nothing to do with it.

        • DDO_Habs_Fan says:

          Timmins could have drafted a guy who would have been ready now. As for quality D-men available, only JayBo fits in that category and his contract was too expensive.

          “You’re always, always, always looking to make your team better. Always.”- Marc Bergevin

  68. adamkennelly says:

    I made a point yesterday of saying Budaj should have started the game. Risk was far too great putting Price in – all downside – no upside and lookie what played out. That was a dumb move by Therien. After the Toronto game he didn’t have a problem – now he does.

    Team has looked terrible over the last little while – save Buffalo game but that doesn’t count since my mens league team prolly could have won that game. Last night they are lucky they didn’t get the crap pounded out of them as well.

  69. habs001 says:

    The only centre the Habs have right now who can score goals is Plecks….The other centres all look like goal scorers in the teens…

    • DDO_Habs_Fan says:

      Eller is starting to get bullied badly. He needs to work his way out of it. DD was as usual…brutal defensively…Giroux embarrassed him.

      “You’re always, always, always looking to make your team better. Always.”- Marc Bergevin

    • Loonie says:

      The Habs are fifth in the league in goals scored per game.

      Putting pucks into the other team’s net doesn’t appear to be a problem. And you’re ignoring the goal scoring of Eller and Desharnais.

      Over a full season we would have Plekanec, Eller and Desharnais projecting to score 26 goals, 18 goals and 12 goals respectively.

      It’s also worth noting again that Eller’s production is coming from a defense first role with little to no powerplay time in a given game.

  70. Price07 says:

    Price is playing terribly, but it happens to all goalies. The timing is bad though. However, its easy to point the finger at a goalie, his mistakes are always the most obvious…thankfully, this time around I’m hearing/reading a lot of comments about people realizing how terrible the defense has been too. I knew Emelin was good but I have to admit I didn’t realize that the D would fall this far without him.

    Also, its good that Therrien learned from his old mistakes when he was too short tempered and all, he’s been great this season, but its time to lose it a bit…the team is asleep, ALL of them!

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  72. sanman_11 says:

    I think the Coach has been great and has been a players coach but now its time to bench a top 6. Not precautionary, send a statement out. Pick one, DD, MP, Gionta, but not Eller, BG, AG. He needs to get tough on this team and quickly.

    I’m a HABS fan not a Leaf blower.

  73. DDO_Habs_Fan says:

    Like I wrote last night…Emelin is working his way towards an extension and he is not even playing. That’s how bad this D is. I love Beaulieu but the Habs need more defense not offense. Subban-Gorges should eat the minutes. Then place a “rookie” with size with a veteran: Tinordi with Markov and Drewiskie with Boullion. I won’t even talk about the forwards because the D is the biggest issue. If it is not corrected, the Habs are toast. Good luck MT…

    “You’re always, always, always looking to make your team better. Always.”- Marc Bergevin

    • Loonie says:

      If you’re Therrien and you’ve had to sit through Gorges playing the part of an offensive contributor for the opposition over the last two weeks do you trust him with first pairing responsibility?

      That would be some incredible patience.

      • DDO_Habs_Fan says:

        He is a “leader” and needs to put “his money where his mouth is”. If he can’t do the job then at least he is not hiding behind an aging Markov (who just came off a major injury). If can’t eat minutes then get rid of him.

        I, and others, were criticized for suggesting to trade Gorges for Bouwmeester. Who would you rather have now? Emelin’s injury has exposed the Habs weaknesses on D.

        “You’re always, always, always looking to make your team better. Always.”- Marc Bergevin

        • Loonie says:

          You’re talking to the guy who’s championed the trade Gorges movement.

          But I would only trade him if I couldn’t add a piece who fits a top four role and would subsequently bump him to the third pairing.

          • DDO_Habs_Fan says:

            Agreed…this team needs a Pronger type. Unfortunately they don’t grow on trees…

            “You’re always, always, always looking to make your team better. Always.”- Marc Bergevin

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  74. Ozmodiar says:

    Are there any good bowling alleys in Pittsburgh??


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