About last night …

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There’s an interesting sociological study to be done on the differences between English- and French-speaking Montreal Canadiens fans.
As is my habit on the drive home after nights at the Bell Centre, I flipped between the postgame broadcasts on TSN690 and 98,5 FM. The latter is the French radio voice of the Canadiens.
On Tuesday night, after the team’s 3-2 loss to Washington, Ron Fournier was on 98,5 offering a calm view that could be summarized by the phrase “You can’t win ‘em all.”
Over on 690, there were corresponding reasonable words from Conor McKenna and Tony Marinaro.
Then they opened the phone lines … and reason flew out the windows of 690′s Greene Ave. studios.

Why do the station’s callers take such delight in bashing Carey Price?

Was the Canadiens’ goaltender great against the Capitals?

Nope.

There might be a goal or two Price would want back … although Alex Ovechkin scores on many goaltenders these days, and the Eric Fehr goal was an epic schmozzle for which no individual should be blamed.

But for the first six-plus minutes of the first period – during which Washington had nine shots to none for the home team – Carey Price kept his team in the game with a series of excellent stops, the best of which was a lightning-quick leg save on Nicklas Backstrom.

The early heroics didn’t count for much among the Price-hating mouth-breathers. A subsequent caller described them as “morons” who are still second-guessing the choice of Price over Jaroslav Halak (currently the perennially injured number-three goaltender in St. Louis).

You don’t hear Price being raked on 98,5. Nor is he often a target on L’Antichambre.

But for a certain type of male, middle-aged (which you can discern from their voices) English radio listener, Montreal has a goaltending problem.

And the only way to shut them up is for Carey Price to lead the Canadiens on a deep playoff run.

We’re three weeks away from beginning to find out if that’s going to happen. But I would suggest the greatest challenge facing the Canadiens does not reside between the pipes.

Having avoided the injury bug for most of the season, the Canadiens are getting thin on D.

Josh Gorges and P.K. Subban were on for two of the Washington goals, Davis Drewiske and Andrei Markov for the other. Alexei Emelin’s physical presence was missed, as forwards Brandon Prust and Rene Bourque led the team in hits with six each. But the big hole in the blueline corps is the continuing absence of Raphael Diaz, who was concussed in a freak collision against Ottawa on Feb. 25 and hasn’t played since.

Diaz would give the team another offensive Dman to complement Markov and Subban.  As it is, however, teams can focus on the only two Canadiens blueliners who can hurt them.

Suban had one shot on goal and four blocked by the Capitals. Markov had two SoG and three blocked.

Brendan Gallagher had one shot on goal and four were blocked. His linemate, Max Pacioretty, had five SoG and seven blocked. Michael Ryder: two shots, five blocked.

Washington blocked 34 shots.  That was five more than Michal Neuvirth had to handle. John Erskine and John Carlson had seven blocks each. David Drewiske led the Canadiens with three of their 10 blocked shots.

Nine Washington shots missed the net, to 13 misses for the Canadiens. Opportunism, luck, bounces and, last but not least, officiating did not favour the home team.

But as Fournier told the non-morons listening to his show, you can’t win every game. The Canadiens battled, as they usually do, and there were some positives:

• The Canadiens were 41-24 on faceoffs.

• Faced with the league’s most dangerous power play, the Canadiens stayed out of the box and easily killed their one penalty, a first-period hook by Pacioretty.

• Lars Eller scored twice and continued to bring out the best in young Alex Galchenyuk, who assisted on both goals. Eller played 13:40, Galchenyuk 11:52. Compare this to David Desharnais’s 19:57, Brendan Gallagher’s 18:57 and Pacioretty’s 20:17. Or Plekanec’s 17:33 and Brian Gionta’s 16:25 and Michael Ryder’s 16:12.

Maybe the kids merit more ToI.

• Rene Bourque showed little rust and absolutely no timidity after his 21-game absence. He had the aforementioned six hits and went to the net consistently, playing 11:35 on the fourth line. Late in the third period, Michel Therrien put Bourque back on the Pleks line, moving Ryder to his natural RW with Eller and the kid and dropping Prust down with Travis Moen and Jeff Halpern. We’ll see if the coach goes with these combos in Buffalo on Thursday night.

By then, the Canadiens may be in fourth place.

Boston visits New Jersey Wednesday night to play the game they have in hand on the Canadiens. A win lifts the Bruins into first place in the Northeast Division.

That would be Carey Price’s fault.

 

 

 

 

 

400 Comments

  1. Arrow77 says:

    The one thing I realize only a few weeks ago is that in reality, Carey Price doesn’t need to be defended. A few years ago, when the Halakmania was going wild, maybe, but not today. There has been no indication that his teammates don’t believe in him, no indication that the management is close to give up on him – heck, even the notoriously tough Montreal medias are willing to cut him some slack until the playoff.

    Price has some haters but none of them are in position where it can affect him. We fight them because they’re posting on this blog but what chances do we have to convince them, really? And what do we gain if we succeed? There’s plenty of interesting people here to discuss with without having to feed those people’s anger.

  2. von says:

    The only thing that drove me nuts about last nights game was, to quote Therrien’s epic rant, how “soft” Ryder was on that first goal. Instead of playing the body, he attempted a lazy stick check on one of the most skilled players in the world – and got embarrassed.

    As Mike would say, not a highlight for the ‘Michael Ryder DVD collection’.
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    “Obviously it would be great, but they don’t really hang conference titles in this rink. They raise Stanley Cup banners.” – Carey Price

    • Loonie says:

      That bothers me a bit. It bothers me because what Ryder did on that specific play is what Desharnais has been doing for the majority of the season.

      Desharnais doesn’t get matched up against players like Ovechkin though.

      One handed pokes at pucks on the boards and in the high slot every shift and nothing’s done.

      Ryder has one soft play that results in a goal and it becomes noteworthy, but other player’s playing the same way routinely escape the coach’s wrath. I don’t like this inconsistency.

      • von says:

        Don’t get me wrong Loonie, I’ve always been a fan of Ryder. It’s just a play that stuck out in my mind over and over last night. If it was Desharnais, I’d say the exact same thing.

        I was losing my mind when Therrien had Desharnais and Patches out over Eller and Chuckie in the last minute. I thought that was a mistake.

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        “Obviously it would be great, but they don’t really hang conference titles in this rink. They raise Stanley Cup banners.” – Carey Price

        • Loonie says:

          I hear you, it was soft for sure. I don’t think that the end result of the play should dictate the discipline though.

          If somebody else is that soft on their check and it doesn’t result in a goal it shouldn’t change the corrective action in my opinion. Bad habits.

    • Mattyleg says:

      And he rode the pine accordingly.

      —Hope Springs Eternal—

    • arcosenate says:

      He could have stuck his hip out, that’s all it required, anyway, not going to get on Ryder, he’s been outstanding since his return.

    • derfab says:

      You get a chance like that to hit Ovechkin, you should be salivating. This is my only knock on Ryder. I guess he has learned to protect his ‘sniper shoulders’ but I’m also guessing a guy like Cole would have flattened Ovie and changed the game… For this alone I would not sign him.

  3. alfieturcotte says:

    Sorry Boonie, you are wrong. Price is paid among the top 3 goaltenders in the league but his stats (GAA/Sv %) are 10-15th. Plus, he has a habit of letting in softies in key moments. Let’s not forget the questionable career playoff stats….All this adds up to credible skepticism by fans. No reason to get down to the level of the Price supporters who post on this board and calling us “mouth-breathers”. About the only thing you got right in your assessment is that the only way to erase the doubt will be a deep playoff run. Isn’t that how most athletes are measured – performance when the steaks are high.

  4. Mondou6 says:

    Regarding Price, the issue I have is with his $6.5M salary cap hit.

    People say, “He’s a good goalie. He’s not the problem, etc.” All true, but they forget that we have a $60-something million salary cap. When you pay a goalie 10% of your entire budget, you need to get a Vezina candidate. Not a likeable good goalie.

    Would you say that for $6.5M a year, a goalie should occasionally be in the Vezina trophy discussion? If not, that’s kind of low expectations, no?

    Personally, I don’t think it’s smart to pay any goalie in the NHL 10% of your cap space. It’s way too much, when that money can be used for a top shelf game changer. Like Ovechkin last night, for example. I’d rather have a goal scorer like Ovechkin and an average goalie, than Price and an average forward. That’s what the salary cap comes down to. It has nothing to do with Price “bashing”. It’s a cap issue.

    • Clay says:

      Good points.

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    • Loonie says:

      I think they overpaid for him too. But here’s some potential logic for the over payment. No other potential or current player on this team can have a monetarily comparable value to Price. For example, when Subban’s contract negotiations come up Bergevin can justify not paying him more than Price both due to their relative positions being different and the expectations of Price being higher.

      Second is that Price is a game changer. We’re pretty spoiled when we see him make the first pass for a breakout, watch him clear the zone on the penalty kill and take it for granted when goalies around the league are flailing their bodies every which way to make saves that he makes look routine.

      There isn’t a goalie in the league who has more upside and in addition there isn’t a goalie in the league who plays the puck better at this stage in their career.

    • Mattyleg says:

      Oh man, really?
      You don’t think that most teams in the NHL would love the kind of consistency that Price brings to every game?
      We don’t have to worry ever about him handing the game to the other team. We are never worried, going into a game, how our goalie is going to play.

      Because of this, the team can prepare themselves before a game and not have any niggling doubts in the backs of their minds. If you don’t think that’s game-changing, then you’ve got to read up on hockey a bit more.

      And Price will be in Vezina discussions this year, and in years to come.

      —Hope Springs Eternal—

      • Clay says:

        I wish I could agree with you about Price being in the Vezina discussions this year, but I don’t think he is. That said, he’s having a very solid season.

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        • Loonie says:

          I agree Clay, he isn’t in the Vezina conversation and shouldn’t be. Having said that he’s a goalie who thrives on a heavy workload and he hasn’t had it this season.

          I think we’ll see a dominant goalie next year. Hopefully sooner.

    • Max says:

      I agree wholeheartedly.The thing is that Price is “good”,he’s a “good” goalie.Not great,not amazing or spectacular but “good”. Will he ever take it to the next level? Maybe so or maybe he will continue to be “good” for the rest of his career. “Good” goalies shouldn’t take up 10% of the salary cap though, and he’s getting paid on his potential which still hasn’t revealed itself yet and may never fully do so.

      • Loonie says:

        To say that he isn’t playing his best this year is fair. To say the potential hasn’t revealed itself is a memory lapse.

        2010-2011

        72 Games
        2.35 GAA
        .923 Save Percentage
        8 Shutouts

    • Bill H says:

      Ovechkin has a cap hit of $9.5M, not $6.5M, and he’s signed through 2021. And if Ovechkin played for Montreal, he’d be run out of town by now for showing up out of shape at training camp and coasting for half a season.

      • Mattyleg says:

        …and Montrealers would use it as a stick to beat him with for the rest of his career.

        —Hope Springs Eternal—

      • Ozmodiar says:

        Exactly!

        Last year Ovie had 38 G vs Pacio’s 33. $5M for a 5 goal differential, going forward.

        That goal differential can be made up with better goaltending. For example, a save % of .915 vs .900 is roughly 26 goals (assuming a 1750 shot season).

  5. Cal says:

    Fun with odd stats. Patrick Roy 85/86 regular season- save%87.5, 92/93 regular season- save %89.4
    With numbers like that heading into the playoffs, it really makes you think about exactly how good Price is. His worst season was a save percentage of 90.5%. How horrible.

    • Clay says:

      Different eras Cal. Roy’s numbers were good for that time. Not really fair to compare them.

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      • Cal says:

        Why not? People keep holding Price to the Roy standard. Roy shared goaltending duties with Hayward for three seasons AFTER his Cup win. Fans tend to forget that.

        • Clay says:

          Max answered your question perfectly just below Cal.
          But let me make this clear – what made Roy great wasn’t his regular season numbers. It was how he came through in the playoffs. I don’t hold Price to that standard, because Roy was IMO the best there ever was.
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          • Max says:

            I agree.No one was as stubborn and pig-headed as Roy.He got by on a minimal talent, but mentally he was a superstar.If he didn’t want that puck going in,it wasn’t going in.Price is the extreme opposite;seemingly very ho-hum and non-chalant.

      • Max says:

        Exactly,those were the days of the dozen one hundred point plus players and 20,50 goal scorers.Goalies looked tiny in net and wore very small equipment.Most of them played stand up and were often beaten by wobbly wristers from the blue line.

        • Cal says:

          Roy played butterfly like Price.
          Different eras notwithstanding, Price has played very well since his debut. The team has never had the depth in front of him as it does now, but it is still an untested playoff squad. Going to be fun this May.

  6. FlyAngler says:

    Is anyone else disturbed by the fact that the Habs seemed to have seen Chris Lee and Tim Peel a disproportionate number of times this season and that these two gentlemen have figured in a significant number of the team’s losses?

    Or how about the timing of their assignments to the last two Habs games in the midst of the last leg of the races for the Division and conference crowns?

    You would almost be tempted to think that maybe someone in the NHL’s Hockey Operations Department had a relative playing for the Boston Bruins wouldn’t you?

    Just sayin’

    “Elever le flambeau!…Raise the Torch!”

    • Cal says:

      Habs were interfered with all night without any calls. BS reffing as usual.
      My dad used to say the Habs had to beat the other team and the referees to get wins. To a great extent, that holds true today.

  7. derfab says:

    Though he will probably never be more than a 3rd stringer, Weber has shown that he can play at this level. With Diaz injured it should have been an easy decision to have him fill in, at least in part. With Emelin gone, I don’t see why they haven’t played him a little as a 7th and power play backup. He is the only other right-side D on the roster! That he has not packed his bags and gone back to europe is surprising.

    • Steeltown Hab says:

      It hasn’t been easy for Weber, really feel for the guy, after JM was using him on F, getting pretty much no shot this year + not getting dealt, he just practices that’s about it.

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    • Old Bald Bird says:

      Hopefully, management will take pity on him and move him over the summer. I have a feeling that he will become a very useful player for the right team — one that needs an offensive and PP D.

  8. Loonie says:

    Young Alex Galchenyuk has so much to look forward to.

    Hopefully he can focus on the words of those who appreciate what he brings when he’s a superstar and not worry about the gremlins who whine and moan when he doesn’t score two points every night.

    • Steeltown Hab says:

      He’s taking his game to another level, I hope he gets to hold down a top 9 C spot next year.

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    • Clay says:

      I question the sanity of anyone who doesn’t see the skill set Galchenyuk possesses. He is amazing me as a very young rookie. he will without a doubt be the best offensive player this team has had in decades. And he is responsible at both ends of the ice as well.

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    • jols101 says:

      Love that guy. Imagine what he will do when he gets more then 12 minutes of ice and some PP time. Look out…

  9. leehammer says:

    I was surprised last night. The way Carey was playing in the first, I thought to myself wow this is as good as this guy has looked all year. He looked unbeatable. Then somehow he got dazzled by that shot by Ovechkin and it rattled the confidence a little.

    Don’t get me wrong, I wouldn’t pin this one on Price, not a chance. For the people who think we have goalie problems, take a look at TB or Tor or Carolina or Philly or 25 other teams that would rather be in our position as far as goaltending is concerned.

    For me, what makes Price a unique goalie in the league is his ability to remain calm under pressure. That serves him particularly well playing in Montreal. But he is at his best when he rides that line between being calm and relaxed but also being focused and aggressive. I thought he was right on in the first period last night, and if he can perform at or near that level we have a really good chance this year and for years to come.

    • JF says:

      Good post. Nice to hear Price’s strengths being pointed out after a game in which he wasn’t always at his best.

    • I have all the respect in the world for goaltenders. They are like infanteers to me. They do the job that no one else will or can do. My ol man was a great goalie (PEI Senior), I remember in the 70′s listening to his Senior games on the radio and how the play by play made him sound invincible and watching his home games making these incredsible saves. When I go home I always take time to stare at his trophies on the wall, and he always said I had great defense in front of me.

      But to play goalie in Montreal, that’s tough. When they traded Halak, everyone was on pins and needles. I was nervous for him (Price), and then he played 72 games, 38 wins and .923%, and you knew we had something special.

      The last thing on this team that worries me is our goaltending.

      Because the key to success is scoring more goals than the other team :lol:

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  10. HNS says:

    I’m always there and very happy after a win. I wish Price would take this team to the promised land and I hope he proves me wrong when I say he sucks. Just because I don’t post doesn’t mean I’m not reading.

    • KenD29 says:

      good grief !

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    • So HNS what would you like for the organization to do with Carey Price this summer? In 2005 what would you have done differently? When the organization traded Halak what would you have done? It’s easy to say all almost every single message that Price sucks, but it offers zero respect to you and your message. Just trying to get more from you than Price sucks.

      And this goes for every member who wants a goalie change, would love to hear a solution other than Price sucks.

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    • HabsFanInTampa says:

      Really, HNS? Carey Price sucks? Whatever.

  11. Propwash says:

    I guess it’s Price’s fault that teams know to crowd the net and create deflections or screens because if he sees the puck, more often then not he’s gonna stop it.

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  12. TheSleeveen says:

    I am a life long habs fan and enjoy reading the posts here, but have come to the realizaiton that there is no pleasing many people who post regularly. When one stands back and looks at what is happening, the Habs are miles ahead of where they could be and where they were. Why do so many criticize them when they lose a game?? Do you really expect this team to go undefeated???

    The Habs will make the playoffs with a team that consists of a very good young nucleus of players that show great promise, Playing well this year will boost this confidence for next year. This year is a bonus year, the success comes as a surprise and seeing them in the fight almost every night makes me look forward to watching every game. This is one of the most promising teams the habs have had in years.

    I’m looking forward to a good playoff run, and if we are lucky, maybe a cup, as MB said, anything can happen once your in the playoffs, but I temper my expectations with realism for this year.

    Go Habs!!!!

  13. RetroMikey says:

    To me, Price is a good goalie, top 3 in the NHL? I dunno.
    All I have to say is which I’ve said along in my motto with the club….
    “We will win the Cup one day only with ? in the nets “

    • But mikey why are you never around after a Habs win and Price in nets? It’s fine you don’t the our goalie, but why is it you don’t support the team after a win?

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      • RetroMikey says:

        Hi Shane,
        I do go on this site after a win, I praise the team but am critical as well.
        The team is doing well, it’s expected to do with the talent we have and skill on the team….BUT can this team survive a long haul in the playoffs playing with its small roster?
        I say no, teams with bigger and more physical players with grit survive longer in the playoffs than a team of speed and skill in todays NHL.
        Montreal would fit perfectly if it played in the KHL but I will tell you and others, watch out for Toronto if we meet them. I smell an upset in the making if we met them as the lower seed.
        Bergevin should have made the trade for some bigger bodies and not worry about the “future”
        To me, the “future” is now as other teams have made trades to get better in the playoffs while we did squat.

        “We will win the Cup one day only with ? in the nets “

        • I have no worries about Toronto and Boston.

          The Habs have proven 25 times this season what it takes to win. Games against the two best teams in the conference have proven that. The others are just stepping stones.

          You’re signature represents who you are? Remember that.

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          • RetroMikey says:

            Playoffs will be cheap shots, roughing, hacking, etc…. and the referees will not call it, so expect our smallteam to be burnt out if we get pat the first or second round but I think they proved they did well this season and need to address this team will have to get bigger to compete against the other physical teams like Boston or Toronto, especially in the playoffs.
            Remember, it is illegal what you have done in the past by custom painting NHL players and selling them without the permission of the NHLPA.
            Are you still doing it? I hope not.

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  14. Steeltown Hab says:

    MT has done a great job this year, with regard to last night.

    - I can’t find the logic of how you put DD on the ice with the net pulled over Eller who scored 2 that night, Galchenyuk, or Gallagher who’ve all consistently been playing better hockey than him of late.

    - Time to wake up and realize that 67-51-11 isn’t our go to PP unit, Galchenyuk and Eller’s skills thrive on the PP, you can swap Prust with Gallagher for the PP.

    - Plekanec should be the TOI leader for centers every game, last night DD 19:57, Plek 17:33, Eller 13:40, thats bad line management IMHO.

    Does the lineup change for Thursday? Where should Bourque play?

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  15. JF says:

    The team played quite well last night after the first ten minutes during which Price kept them in the game. There were mistakes, unlucky bounces, bad calls, a questionable goal. These things happen. The one adjustment I would make is to give Galchenyuk and Eller more ice-time. Both have been great the last few games. So far this season, Therrien has rewarded merit with promotion or more ice-time, so I’m hoping he’ll make this adjustment.

    Rene Bourque looked good for his first game back.

    We need Raphael Diaz. He was reported to be skating last Wednesday. Since then, not a word, but, unless he has a setback, he should be in the lineup before too long.

    At least we broke the Bell Centre goal drought against the Caps. Next step is to beat them.

    • I didn’t think they played well at all. Less the last three minutes of the third, they perimeter hockey all night. Most of the shots directed at Neuvirth were weak, and there was little to no hitting (not our game anyway), but what erked me the most was that Markov and PK were a complete non-factor and that made the team look off. When PK is flying around knocking players over and firing pucks like crazy this Habs team wins!

      He’s the one common denominator in a Habs win.

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      • Clay says:

        I disagree Shane – I think that outside of the first 10 minutes the Habs played well enough to win.
        I have to admit that my jaw dropped seeing DD on the ice* with the goalie pulled though. IMO that was a coaching error.
        *Edit* as Steeltown Hab mentioned above.
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  16. John Q Public says:

    Chill Out !!!
    This team is a WIP if you haven’t noticed.
    Could the coach shakes things up a bit, Absolutely.
    Do people want last years team back ?
    Again Chill Out !!!

  17. HNS says:

    Too bad that has nothing to do with consistency. Good try.

  18. Strummer says:

    Price kept them in the game in that first 6 minutes.
    If he had not been so brilliant then there would have another route like they had in the Leaf 6-0 loss.

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  19. HNS says:

    Price held down the fort in the1st, shart the bed in the second and third. I don’t think there is any goalie more inconsistent than him. If he doesn’t take this team deep into the playoffs he’ll end up on the Islanders next season.
    People are still in the Price vs Halak world. Halak is better at getting his look at the puck in traffic.
    Then you hear he sucks with St. Louis. I’d say he doesn’t like It there. He was a hero here and a zero there. Wake up Pricebots. WTFU!!!!!!

  20. adamkennelly says:

    Habs were not out played – they were out shot blocked – prolly the biggest problem. These things happen…Price was not to blame, our forwards generated sufficent offense to win. I have no big problem with this loss – it happens. I would have left DD off the ice in the last minutes but I love the fact that Michel was using Eller and Chucky a lot…lookin good.

  21. in habs we trust says:

    boone you are so right above your observations.Living in s.ont.
    Carey Price is always the target when we lose,but when we win
    its always a good team effort.But Carey is in good company roy and even Dryden were also targets. Most complaints come from the me generation or the I have to have now generation.

  22. Chrisadiens says:

    Yet another reason for me learn French.

    Chrisadiens and HabFan10912, one of the few father son tandems on HIO.

  23. Thomas Le Fan says:

    Apparently, it has come as some surprise to a certain percentage of “fans” that this team could not go 48-0 this year. If only Price were not in net we might have done it! Well, that’s it! If we don’t breeze through the playoffs to the cup, a perfect 16-0, I’m outta here.

    There is no crying in baseball, “i” in team or “chuck” in Galchenyuk.

    • Mr.Habs71sv says:

      When Price wins a cup all is forgiven. I am not holding my breath. He is like a gate sometimes he is locked and other times he is open. He lacks the word “consistency”.

      Till next time….

      • KenD29 says:

        And what goalie locks the “gate” 100% of the time?!
        And guessing that Price or any other goalie for that matter is suppose to score goals and play d as well?!

        Thank goodness for Price as it would have been worse after the first period had he not “locked the gate”!

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  24. Loonie says:

    I think one of the biggest issues with the emotional ups and downs is Michel Therrien. He’s been all business and has done a fantastic job of making this team hard to play against.

    Like every other coach in professional sports he makes mistakes. In my opinion those mistakes have been over-reliance on Andrei Markov and a seemingly unwavering faith in Desharnais. Simply put it appears that Andrei Markov is no longer a defenseman who can be counted on more than others when protecting a lead and Deshanarnais at least this season shouldn’t be among our leaders at even strength and on the powerplay. The point is exaggerated with ready made replacements for these roles in Subban and Eller who are undoubtedly playing much better consistently. More frustrating still is that it seems Pacioretty is tied to Desharnais’ hip.

    In any event, regardless of how this season goes I’ll give the coach much more credit than blame but for the sake of this team’s success heading into the playoffs I hope that Therrien either sees these personnel adjustments as necessary or that Markov and Desharnais recapture the form that made them successful.

    • Habfan10912 says:

      Patches is important to this team and will be even more so in the playoffs. It’s time that MT separates him and DD. Got to get him going.

    • in habs we trust says:

      Loonie I agree totally about Markov.

      “R” Habs

    • Chris says:

      Any player logging heavy ice time against the top players on the other team is going to be made to look like a fool occasionally.

      For me, the proof is in the pudding…Markov is back and the team is excelling (Gionta is also notable in this regard). Andrei Markov’s return has pushed everybody back into more regular roles. I think Emelin’s growing pains sometimes exacerbated Markov’s weaknesses (he’s actually always been a guy who gives up a significant number of goals against.

      For example, Markov averaged about 20:45 minutes of even strength ice time per goal in 2007-08, a season where he was very much considered an elite defenceman and there were no worries about his knees or losing a step.

      This year he is averaging about 22 minutes of even strength ice time per goal. As strange as it is, the perception of Markov being a bigger vulnerability is just that…a perception. It looks a heck of a lot messier these days because of the lunges and dives and lost foot-races, but his performance is actually pretty much on par, if not better, with his career defensive performance in terms of the results on the ice.

      • ebk says:

        He’s not as good as he was but he’s still a very good hockey player. The one thing that worries me about him this year, is that he seems to generate way less offense in even strength situations than he used to. Mostly, though, it’s just nitpicking. He’s the Habs 2nd best D man by a country mile in all situations.

  25. ebk says:

    Cool, a whole day of the PriceBots vs the PriceNots

    • 24 Cups says:

      Earl – There are much bigger issues to worry about this morning. There is talk here in Ontario that the LCBO could shut down due to a strike action. Maybe the government could bring in the replaced workers from the Royal Bank to act as scabs.

    • Chris says:

      Are you as stoked as I am to see Ovechkin seemingly back in his form of old?

      I’d love to see him drop about 10 pounds. I think he could be right back there with Stamkos as the elite goal-scorer in the NHL while still maintaining enough mass to devastate people with hits.

      If Ovechkin can maintain this groove, the 2014 Olympics could get really fun.

  26. Maritime Ron says:

    Carey Price has yet to begin to write his story be that good or bad to come. There is no doubt a love/hate relationship exists to date, but a little perspective please. I also believe there is some jealousy from the haters when a 25 year old signs a $39M contract that will push his career earnings to over $47M when he reaches the ripe old age of 30.

    With all due respect to Bob Gainey as a player, his management of the team left much to be desired and Price was one of his mismanagement errors in rushing a 19 year old into the Montreal limelight. Price also didn’t help himself in the choice of his friends and outside activities. He was unable to handle Montreal and everything that came with it, yet who of us at either 19 or 22 actually could? What were WE all doing at the ages of 19 or 21 23? Did Gainey properly surround him? Add in the Halak love affair because of 2 playoff series wins and a circus last year….

    Price is now 25 and has lived enough experiences. His hopefully positive future and legacy begins now and will be written in the next 5-8 years with the Habs. If Bergevin can surround him with a good defensive corps, we may end up seeing some good things in the next several years. Then again, who knows.

  27. ed says:

    Price made several tough stops in the 1st 10 minutes or it could have been ugly last night. It could have been 3-0 very quickly.

    There are games when a team deserves to win and too many soft goals are being scored against them – and these are the games when a goalie can be “at fault”.

    I can’t easily recall too many games this season when Price was “at fault”; in fact, it is steady, consistent goaltending that has allowed the Habs to win so many games.

  28. Habfan10912 says:

    Good morning all. It amazes me how we can go from total jubilation from Saturday night to total doom and gloom after 60 minutes of hockey. Not a big deal to me. Sometimes the hockey gods are against you. Last night was an example.
    One move that is probably overdue in my mind is separating DD and Max. Whatever chemistry these two had last year is missing and Max is way to important a player to not be producing for us, especially come playoff time. In the first period I thought Patches had some zip to his game but didn’t/couldn’t maintain it through three periods.

  29. Habfan17 says:

    In order to “jump start” Patches, DD, Pleks and Gionta, I would put these lines together next game. It will add energy to a couple of lines and balance the size.
    Patches, DD, Bourque
    Prust, Pleks, Ryder
    Gallchenyuk, Eller, Gallagher
    Moen, Halpern, Gionta

    Habfan17

  30. HAB-PROFESSOR says:

    PRICE wanted the goal back that he flipped over his head, otherwise he was doing his job..

    the real culprit was the NHLREF SYNDICATE…LEE was at work last night, what sabotage…there should be an investigation by the RCMP.

    Every time we see LEE or that other guy that looks like LEE (maybe the Syndicate clones these guys)…I know we are in trouble.


    The N.A.G. (North American Grit) effect is the only path to success…
    GALLAGHER = FUTURE HAB CAPTAIN

  31. saskhabfan says:

    You would think after last years show,posters and radio callers would show alot more common sense with how well the team has played this year. But take into consideration the same posters who are whining about price on this site are the ones who are bitter halak (and huet before that) were traded. I wouldn’t take them too seriously,with their boy in st.louis playing 3rd string and becoming a burden on the teams healthcare sysytem and salary cap it shows PG traded the right goalie.

  32. Chris says:

    Name me a high-profile player, and I will give you countless examples of hockey fans bashing said player.

    Wayne Gretzky? He wouldn’t have been so dominant if the referees weren’t in his back pocket and he didn’t play with the Hall of Fame as his linemates.

    Sidney Crosby? Whiner, punk, etc.

    Alex Ovechkin? Lazy, Russian (this might be the most damning of epithets, as sad as that is), only plays for the money.

    Roberto Luongo? Head case in the playoffs.

    The Sedins? Useless if they can play with their wombmate.

    Paul Coffey? Couldn’t play defence.

    etc. etc. etc.

    Why do some people turn so much on star players? I don’t know…maybe they were spanked on the wrong end as children.

    But I will also toss out that people get really, REALLY sick of hype. If you hear nothing but how great a guy is, you start looking for his flaws.

    This is part of the reason why so many non-Leafs fans hate the Leafs. They get so much attention, and we get tired of that attention when there are 6 other Canadian teams.

    Carey Price is a good hockey player. But it really DOES get tiresome listening to people talk about the guy 24/7. If he doesn’t win, it’s the team that didn’t do enough. If he wins, there’s rarely mention of the team in front of him.

    I like Price. I’m content that he’s in net. But it sure would be nice if the discussion on every Montreal Canadiens site didn’t hinge around Price 99.9% of the time. There will always be trolls, frothing at the mouth with their dislike of Price. Ignore them. And there will always be fanbots who can’t see past their Carey Price goggles that the game is played by 20 players. Ignore them, too.

    My suspicion is that if people stop feeding the hype machine and stop addressing the trolls, the discussion will return to civility awfully fast.

  33. Max says:

    If Price was earning 3-4 million per,we’d all like him a lot more.He is way overpaid.

  34. Bash says:

    Now we have some line issues to be dealt with.

    DD PAC GALL are in a funk and surprisingly the rookie is not the problem.
    PAC only plays with power and aggression after he has been hit; other that than that he could be smaller than Gallager. DD has not played well for some time but continues to get a lot of ice time – the contract might have been a little too much. So what to do?? Move Gallgager over with someone else?

    ELLER and GALCHEN are flying but get relatively little ice time. Prust helps this line with toughness but lacks the skill set. He will have to be flipped with Ryder or Bourque and perhaps Gallager.

    Pleks and Gionta need some net crashing help. Maybe Bourque or Prust. The latter will have a hard time on the break but once on the zone he will provide more that perimeter shooting. I think Therien goes with Bourque here.

    The fourth line is what it is and has not hurt us all year. Maybe its time for DD to spend a little time there on the wing?? This would open the centre spot for Galchenyuk.

    In any event our D is obviously suffering. The simple answer is more punch from up front and of course a serious push down low to open up some shooting lanes for PK and Markov.

    It seems so obvious from this armchair!

    “If all you have is a hammer, everything looks like a nail.” (anon)

  35. mksness says:

    this is getting strange… hockey = team game

    Carey is a part of the team and the team has a great record. His stats shows he’s doing his part to help the team win games. Comparing gaa and SV% can be very misleading because they don’t tell the whole story.

    Teams that give up few shots but have high defensive brain farts will make your SV % look bad for you GAA might be respectable.

    Teams that give up lots of shots but more of the perimeter type but same about of brains farts will produce save gaa but with a high SV%.

    Anyways what i’m trying to say is for a team that is sitting second in the conference, price is doing his job and making some big saves to help the team win or keep the team in games. Come playoff time everyone will have to step up.

  36. CharlieHodgeFan says:

    A deep run in the playoffs will not make Price respected by many. That’s just the way it is. I was angry at the Halak trade and at the time, thought they’d traded the wrong guy. I see things in Price’s play I don’t like. But he remains a solid and not flashy positional goalie – not flashy but smart. He’s not going to give you too many crowd pleasing glove hand miracles, but he generally gets there and predicts well. Fire a knuckleball, and he’ll miss. But I can’t think of another goalie in the league I’d rather have in there now, and I do recognize that he remains quite young for his trade.

    He’s not Patrick Roy, and that’s what a lot of posters want. He’s Carey Price, a solid, reliable goalie who like every goalie tends to win more when his team scores three or more goals.

    Back in the day when I wasn’t a certain kind of bald middle aged guy, fans looked for heroes in hockey, which was a mistake. Now, there seems to be a mean -spirited quest for guys to hate. It comes in waves on HIO – Desharnais the French guy, Drewiske the trade that wasn’t the exciting trade they wanted, Gionta the small, Markov of the knees of pain, Moen the fourth liner, or Gorges the non scorer. As each guy makes split second decisions on the ice and guesses wrong, they join the carrousel of “humph”.

    Diaz, Bourque and Budaj were irrationally denounced and are now tolerated or even admired, but they will be loathed again. Someday, Gallagher may slow down or Galchenyuk will wear down, and they’ll go into the soup. That’s what hockey fans are for.

    In the end, it doesn’t matter. Price is a good goalie. Am I a Price lover? A Price hater? I don’t bother to denounce his misses – I was a total crapola goalie and missed enough slow shots that I’m impressed with his ability to gauge fast ones. And in a few years, he’ll be gone and someone else will be in nets – hockey players come and go and the TV show/soap opera of our hearts plays on.

    They don’t read this, they don’t listen to call in crazies and nothing said here has any effect on anything. It’s just interesting for us, that’s all.

  37. HabinBurlington says:

    I don’t know if it is just as simple as going to the dirty areas more, but the team struggles at time to score goals. If we score 3 goals a game we win or at least get game to OT.

    Would like to have seen Price make 1 more save, but would like to have seen the team score 1 or more goals.

  38. Old Bald Bird says:

    Things that make you go hmmm.

    Robert Rice ‏@SeriousFan09
    Lars Eller has 5 points on the PP with 21:59 TOI on the unit this season. Desharnais has 5 points with 105:58 TOI this year. #Facts

  39. Old Bald Bird says:

    Good for Cole. Still am in awe of what he did last year.

    Brandon Worley ‏@brandonworley
    Others may have gotten the points, but Erik Cole was the best player on the ice tonight for the Stars. Tremendous game.

    • HabinBurlington says:

      That is good to hear, I also am still grateful for what he did for this team last year. In fact I think DD is very very grateful for what Cole did for him last year.

  40. twilighthours says:

    My beloved HIO… It sometimes makes me yearn for the days of David aebischer or red light Racicot. Then we would know bad goaltending.

    Gotta go to work.

    Peace.

  41. Clay says:

    “Lars Eller… continued to bring out the best in young Alex Galchenyuk”; I see it the other way around actually – Galchenyuk is the catalyst, and he is bringing out the best in Eller.

    __________________________
    ☞ Montreal is the better of these two teams. No excuses for Bruins. Montreal is better.☜ ~ Jack Edwards

  42. twilighthours says:

    Remember, criticising price is not brain surgery. You can do it without sounding like an idiot or troll. Watch:

    Price was kinda weak on that first goal

    Or

    Price stinks *tonight*

    Or

    Price has had better games.

    Then, follow this comment up with several comments completely unrelated to price (after all, there has to be more to comment on, right?)

    • Clay says:

      I’m staying completely out of this one, except to say this. (<— I already said it ;) )

      __________________________
      ☞ Montreal is the better of these two teams. No excuses for Bruins. Montreal is better.☜ ~ Jack Edwards

  43. Danno says:

    Radio trolls?

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  44. Marc10 says:

    Incidentally, I don’t know that the 98.5 callers are any more rational than the 690 mob. Price gets his fair share of second guessing there too… It just depends on who’s calling up on a given day.

    It’s a shame we didn’t get the points. At the end of the day, Les Boys didn’t get the minimum 3 goals. Good on Eller for meeting his end of the bargain and good to see Bourque back!

  45. Cal says:

    It’s a shame Ovi scored on that weak wrister and that the second one was a pinball carom, but it could easily have been 3-0 Caps after the first 10 minutes.
    Good to see Bourque back hitting and shooting. Habs had a ton of chances and didn’t bury them.
    More time for Eller, Chucky and Prust? I have to say yes, as long as Pleks line is out against the other team’s #1 line.

    • twilighthours says:

      I agree

      Price stunk on the ovechkin goal. eller’s line was a mess on the 3rd goal (and can have train wreck shifts, so possibly why they don’t get more time, although DD’s line can be just as bad). The D looks shaky with two regulars out. The caps’ second goal was suspicious. Montreal wasnt good enough to win.

  46. twilighthours says:

    Suggestion for those who hate Price or think he isn’t a good enough goalie to (_____insert random accomplishment here________).

    1) make a list of goalies who you think are better, or would prefer to have
    2) go to the game highlight page on NHL.com.
    3) watch all the goals allowed this year by these goalies
    4) count how many times you thought “weak goal” or “shoulda had that” or “tough time in a game to give one up”
    5) gain perspective

  47. Marc10 says:

    So unwavering Price supporters are now morons. Nice…

    I suppose wavering in your support is a better approach? What a joke…

    I haven’t seen any reason thus far why not to support the kid. He’ll come of age along with his supporting cast. He’s still a kid even though he’s been here for quite a while.

    If Pricey had Duncan Keith, Seabrook and the rest of the Hawks in front of him, we wouldn’t even be having this discussion… He’d have a Cup and a Vezina in his back pocket. Maybe two…

    I think the Habs will get there. It’s premature to piss all over a kid who most nights does an excellent job of stopping pucks.

    We’re not anointing saints here, but there’s a point where constant criticism isn’t warranted and Boone is spot on at calling the naysayers out. It’s way over the top. Pricey’s just fine. With the right supporting cast he’s got as good a shot as anyone be they Lundquist, Quick or Fleury.

    • The Cat says:

      You know what I meant, but if youre gonna take it like that all I can say is you’ll get over it, I been called much worse on here without anyone having my back…People would not piss on Price if the fans and media would stop fawning over him. Its very simple, its kinda like how Madonna used to make the best and worst dressed lists at the same time.

      [Disclaimer]: I’m a hockey fan. I care about the habs, but probably not as much as you.

  48. The Cat says:

    I would humbly suggest that its the unwavering Price supporters that are ‘morons’ not that Im into name-calling but if we must…Whenever a criticism is thrown toward Price; Halak’s play comes into question as if pent frustration over Halak leaving is the only reason one could feel this way toward Price. This has nothing to do with anything.

    Price attracts criticism simply because there are many who blindly fawn over him and defend him. Its the same principle that annoys hab fans when the CBC fawns over the leafs. The kid doesnt suck but there is something unsightly about a group of people eager to anoint him elite or ready to give him the keys to the city before actually earning it.

    [Disclaimer]: I’m a hockey fan. I care about the habs, but probably not as much as you.

    • HabFanSince72 says:

      Name one person who has suggested giving Price the keys to the city.

      And which city? I don’t think Montreal even does that.

    • twilighthours says:

      It was mouth-breather, not moron. Get it straigh.

    • KenD29 says:

      Just wondering if the D have any accountability in any of the goals scored on Price?! Goal # 2 Markov is in the crease not tying up Fehr. Or how about how Ovi catches Ryder looking for his strap on goal #1 ? Ah, Price all your fault ;o)

      All About Work Ethic

      • The Cat says:

        Absolutely, its a team thing. But just cause theres a criticism toward Price doesnt mean its all his fault, its the unwavering Price supporters that go to that line instantly, wrongly assuming that the criticizer is putting ALL the blame on him, thus making them seem unreasonable. Price supporters use Machiavellian spins like Karl Rove did via the media with US democrats, making them look unpatriotic etc.

        [Disclaimer]: I’m a hockey fan. I care about the habs, but probably not as much as you.

        • twilighthours says:

          Then here’s a wild idea: criticize the D. Criticize the whole team. Criticize everyone proportional to what they deserve.

          Rather than just criticizing price, which is how you come off.

          • The Cat says:

            The problem with this forum is you cant see past posts. Not only do I preface an opinion on Price with ‘Price doesnt suck’ every time, I also predicted the habs would go to the finals this year. I also criticize other players. I wouldnt predict a finals appearance if I thought Price or the team suck. I didnt even criticize Price today yet youre kinda saying I did.

            [Disclaimer]: I’m a hockey fan. I care about the habs, but probably not as much as you.

          • twilighthours says:

            “today”

            There have been days that you’ve gone to town.

            But I’ll concede. Truce.

    • Old Bald Bird says:

      I know what you mean, Cat. But please admit that criticism of Price is somewhat over the top.

  49. WindsorHab-10 says:

    As Ron Fournier said, you can’t win them all.

  50. pmaraw says:

    How was Beaulieu? didn’t watch the game

    • Clay says:

      I thought he played great. Didn’t look out of place a bit.

      __________________________
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  51. thehabs21 says:

    so jordan subban is ranked 35 in the draft ranking …. so wouldnt it be interesting

    “I can’t really hear what Jeremy says, because I’ve got my two Stanley Cup rings plugging my ears”

    • thehabs21 says:

      had a good season too

      “I can’t really hear what Jeremy says, because I’ve got my two Stanley Cup rings plugging my ears”

    • Clay says:

      I would take the chance and draft him early second round if he is available. Look how well PK turned out…

      __________________________
      ☞ Montreal is the better of these two teams. No excuses for Bruins. Montreal is better.☜ ~ Jack Edwards

      • Fransaskois says:

        If he can’t handle the size issue in the NHL, I’d love to see him moved to the wing. Very gifted offensively, might get pushed around trying to score goals, won’t get pushed around resulting in a goal. Tough transition I’d imagine.

  52. scavanau says:

    Went to bed early last night as I had to be at work for 3am, I wake to see the 2nd period did us in again. Even though we outshot them. What the heck is going on in the locker room during the first intermission??

  53. Marc10 says:

    I think Price hasn’t come close to peeking yet. Those who bash him are probably comparing him unfairly to either Roy, Brodeur or Dryden… If not intentionally, at least subconsciously. Those three came into the League Hall of Fame ready…

    Most goalies come into this league and take a while to find their game. Many have a better supporting cast and then a few have a Steve Penny type playoff run and then fall on their face.

    Price is exceptional for a kid his age. His rebound control is amazing and yes, you’d have to question your sanity to think he’s to blame for the few hiccups we’ve had this year.

    He’ll get a chance to prove the doubters wrong just like MT did this year. I notice even the most hate filled yahoos on HIO and Team 690 have dialed their ill-informed rhetoric right back since Michel and co got the team on song.

    So will it be with the shameless Price bashers. He’s simply too good and the Canadiens too well run not to make you eat your words…

    Get ready for more crow haters. This one we’ll serve as a suppository.

    • Sassicaia says:

      I agree, I think the best is yet to come.

      Also, I get annoyed when people compare goalies from different eras without context.

      Brodeur is a great goalie, but he also lucked out in landing in NJ where the trap was perfected, and where he had a formidable defense in front of him. Stevens, Niedermeyer, et al.

      I think I would have done well in those circumstances.

  54. stevied123 says:

    I think both the naysayers and positive supporters make great points, the one thing i know forsure is that based on the amount of games he has under his belt and the way the 2013 habs are playing in front of him this years playoff run will be the biggest test of his career, if he fails , both his major contract and his “thoroughbred” moniker well come into MAJOR question. Pacioretty needs to define himself as a player , but on the other side one can also say he is sorely missing the space cole used to create. And thats how i feel about that.

    • Saintpatrick33 says:

      Agreed. This year’s playoff may be a defining moment in Price’s career one way or another. If he takes us as far as Halak did it will shut the haters up. If he fails it will give them more ammo. Should be interesting to see which way it goes.

  55. DorvalDrive says:

    Jedi. Lets hope they have home ice atleast, with four points on the life with the Leafs still fourth is no Guarantee.

    Timo. Im not sure about getting rid of all those players. I was hard on Gionta at the beggining of the season, and Max, I just think has post traumatic stress disorder still. Yess to DD, and Moen. But without Markov, which will be soon enough, and Gorges. The D, is looking horrible.

  56. jedimyrmidon says:

    At this point, I’m almost resigned to the fact that the Habs will *probably* face the Leafs in the first round of the playoffs.

  57. HardHabits says:

    Is it any wonder?

    Timonism – A form of bitter misanthropy, a despair leading to hatred or contemptuous rejection of mankind

    Timoism – A form of bitter mishabropy, a despair leading to hatred or contemptuous rejection of habkind

  58. habitual says:

    Boone can defend himself and Price doesn’t give a rat’s ass what you think.

    did you follow the game on radio? If you watched it on TV the first goal was a knuckler that dropped, the second was a fluke, and the third was screened.

    Price should be criticized when he deserves it. That was not tonight.

  59. Timo says:

    Who thinks that this Juicy Fruit commercial where they are stuck on a ride has to win the worst commercial of the year award?

  60. DorvalDrive says:

    Have to agree with Timo, Price has yet to prove himself as a clutch goaltender. It gets tiring hearing the same reasons to why the Habs lose, are because of the team, the refs, or defense. It seems its never his fault.

    So, since Montreal may be in fourth place come playoffs, and Toronto fifth. This weekends tilt could be a prevue, to what hasnt happened in almost 35 years. Lets see how he plays, cause we all know it wont be Budaj getting the start.

    • Timo says:

      And let me clarify something. There are a few players I’d get rid off first before Price. DD, Moen, Gionta, Pacioretty, Markov, Gorges…

      Goaltending is a unique position and for some reason goalies are expected to bail the team out when it sucks. They are also expected to shut the door in close game until one of the stiffs wakes up and pots a goal. But tis is life of an NHL goaltender and Price is being paid handsomely for his role. So, no sympathy, just win the games.

      • makka83 says:

        and he has lost wht? 7 games in regulation this season out of 28?

        • Timo says:

          I suppose. I don’t do stats. If you go to my comments about Price last year or year before you will see me defend him because last year he was NOT the problem. The team was atrocious. This season, team has a chance. It is only a feeling that I have based on what I see from Price that he will not give this team a chance to go deep into playoffs.

          You disagree. We both repeat the same thing till we turn blue. This is the way it is. Time will tell.

    • makka83 says:

      price has been good for the habs. I still don’t understand how anyone can say otherwise. also, he came in with high expectations and to naïve folks that means he’s the next Roy.
      you’re upset that carey hasn’t eon the cup by himself? cause I got news, not even Roy can win a cup with these guys.

  61. HardHabits says:

    The two best regular season’s the Habs have had since the 70′s were with Price in nets. As it stands he’s the cornerstone of their hopes for a championship.

    People like you however, tend to buy stock high and sell low.

  62. ooder says:

    just because people don’t slobber and wet their pants over Price doesn’t mean they are mouth breathers.
    he had a sh!t game, he has a few sh!t games, and it looks worst when the other goalies plays lights out.
    however, i have stated that come playoffs I have not seen anything from Price that can show me that he can elevate his compete level consistently for a stretch off time.
    prove me wrong Carrey, I really hope you do

  63. Mike Boone says:

    How did that HIO boycott work out for you?

    Mike Boone
    Hockey Inside/Out blogger

  64. Harditya says:

    You critique Price’s .915 save percentage yet you defend Halak’s .899 save %. We both know Halak is better than that, but by your logic if Price is a sieve, Halak must be an ECHL goaltender.

    By the way, have some respect for your elders. Perhaps others wouldn’t feel as disgusted to talk to you.

    • makka83 says:

      he’s just upset that he soiled his pants again today. switched to big boys pants too soon.

    • Timo says:

      I think people keep throwing Halak into fray is simply to get a rise out of others. Price vs Halak is not a debate anymore. Price’s inability to shut it down or carry the team on his shoulders when the first and second and forth line stiffs fail to do anything is.

      Now, I don’t know whether Jon is serious comparing Price and Halak but he is right in the fact that Price hasn’t won’t crap for the Habs where it counts and based on his performance even in a winning season there is little to indicate that he will.

      • Harditya says:

        I hope he takes his game to a whole new level in the playoffs, he’s due for a Cup run, or at least a few rounds. If not, then I would be the first one to admit that MB threw cash at him way too early.

      • makka83 says:

        Compared to whom? Who is that goalie that gave an indication he can win? MAF?
        And who on the habs has been clutch

  65. makka83 says:

    yikes. dumbest post of the year?

  66. Timo says:

    Of all teams, lets hope Habs play Bruins in the first round. Probably the only good chance they have seeing a second round hockey.

  67. makka83 says:

    There is a difference between bashing and criticizing. reality is, Price wins more than he loses this season. save% and gaa aren’t important in the playoffs.

  68. Timo says:

    Haven’t read a single comment yet but let me guess…

    1. Habs lost to a hot goaltender who played lights out
    2. No goalie in the NHL would stop the goals that Price let in
    3. Caps got lucky. The number of opportunities Habs had to score it was just a matter of lady luck not being on their side.

    Did I miss anything?

    Yes, I did. The useless piece of… that desharnais is and either by extension or on his own Max Pacioretty. I truly feel for Gallagher who is playing balls out every game but stuck with these two useless excuses for NHL hockey players.

    Defense as a whole sucks more than with Emelin and is softer than a peewee team.

    But, let’s not lose perspective here. Habs lost because

    1. Neuvirth was hot and that won’t happen again
    2. Not goalie in the league could stop lucky bounces that went into Carey Price’s net
    3. Lady luck was not on the Habs side

    Otherwise… no excuses.

  69. HardHabits says:

    Seems like the morons who flood the radio waves also flood these pages. The French-English thing also exists in comments section all over the Internet. Going to the Globe and Mail or National Post and reading the comments section versus Le Devoir or La Presse or TSN versus RDS and you can see a major difference in not just literacy but sanity. Maybe it’s because French is a more difficult language to be understand and be fluent in and sounds 100 times more eloquent than English when spoken properly. At any rate, from my reading the two languages, it appears that a large proportion of on line (and on air) anglophone community are virtual Neanderthals to the sophisticated francophones who appear to be more like an advanced variation of Homo Sapiens by comparison.

    Either that or they’re cloning Tony.

  70. Rob says:

    An interesting observation. I assumed the idiocy of ragging on one of the top goalies in the league was present in a certain percentage of “opinions”, regardless of language. I figure that, just like “you can’t win ‘em all”, you also have to accept that “there’s always gonna be morons around”. But if indeed this is isolated to native english speakers, then I’m curious as to the reason behind this.

    The Montreal Canadiens: sporting the best AND worst fans since 1909!

  71. frozengolf says:

    MT needs to play Eller and Chucky more. Give them DD minutes and see what happens.

    _________________________________________________________
    “We know that hockey is where we live, where we can best meet and overcome pain and wrong and death. Life is just a place where we spend time between games.”

    • chanchilla says:

      i think it’ll be good for both lines, DD has always been the kind of person to work his face off, cut his time, he’ll work hard to get it back i bet.

  72. donmarco says:

    I’m glad he’s calling out the idiotic morons for what they are. Idiotic morons. Fournier is right, you can’t win them all, and they came up against a team that may take a lot of people by surprise come the playoffs. The metrics say the Canadiens lost a close,game. The morons think otherwise.

  73. punkster says:

    25-9-5

    Freakin’ awesome season…no complaints from me.

    ***SUBBANGIN’ NOW BABY!!!***

  74. habs001 says:

    I am sure that management hopes Moen awakens for the playoffs because right now he does not even look like AHL quality player…if not, i believe his spot has to be available for another player next year…

  75. doogie says:

    Gee whiz some people are dumb. Price is very good. The rest of the team needs to play better in front of him on 99% of the games that he loses.


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