About last night …


Every now and then, the old P.K. comes out to play.
And this is not an unalloyed blessing.
Look, let’s agree the greatest thing the general managers’ meeting can accomplish is the implementation of a coach’s challenge in the NHL.
If there were one, Michel Therrien could have tossed the flag or whatever in Overtime and a video review would have absolved P.K. Subban of making contact with his stick against the noggin of Buffalo’s ever-dangerous Mark Pysyk.
The high-sticking call would have been rescinded, the teams would continue their 4-on-4 battle and who knows how the game might have ended?
As it was, however, Subban was in the box watching his teammates heroically kill 1:59 of his penalty before pesky Steve Ott buried a rebound to secure two points for the Sabres, who probably won’t need them.

The Canadiens needed the point they earned.

It kept them atop the Northeast Division ahead of Boston, which lost 3-1 in Winnipeg. The Bruins still hold a game in hand, but they are two points behind the Canadiens.

Both teams play on Thursday: Boston at Ottawa, the Canadiens on Long Island. Until then – and perhaps beyond – Montreal has a first-place hockey team … albeit one that didn’t look it for long stretches of the game on Tuesday night.

Postgame attention was focused on Subban and the penalty that wasn’t really a penalty. But should the Canadiens’ most valuable skater have been going for a kill shot on an inoffensive Sabre (Pysyk had a shot on goal during the first period and was invisible thereafter) in an OT situation?

Of course not. But that’s what you get with P.K.: occasional, though increasingly rare, examples of the youthful and not entirely prudent exuberance that made the flamboyant defenceman a darling of the Bell Centre through his first two seasons.

P.K. was not the reason Buffalo won the game. The Sabres got two points because Jhonas Enroth made some big saves – particularly on a Brian Gionta shot that would have won it for the Canadiens in regulation – and because the home team played a sloppy game.

Woeful defensive zone coverage by the David Desharnais-Max Pacioretty-Brendan Gallagher line gave the Sabres their early two-goal lead. And the Canadiens’ attack couldn’t get into gear until the furious third-period rally that included 15 shots and goals by Pacioretty and Colby Armstrong.

The Canadiens had 34 shots on Enroth through 60 minutes (they had none in OT). But the significant numbers, for me, were the 23 shots the Sabres blocked (Mike Weber had six) and the 24 times Canadiens’ shots missed the net.

That’s a season high, and the number of misses indicates lack of patience and poor execution among Canadiens shooters.

Gionta, Alex Galchenyuk and Andrei Markov each missed the net four times. The general air of ineptitude in the offensive zone was frustrating to watch in a game that drew murmurs of discontent from the usual sellout crowd … although the sound might have been snoring, because long stretches of the game were dull.

Excitement, when it finally came, was generated by the DD line – seeking and nearly achieving redemption for its defensive errors – and by the new Lars Eller-Galchenyuk-Armstrong trio.

Gallagher was brilliant in beating Cody Hodgson and Tyler Myers behind the Buffalo net to set up the Pacioretty goal and nearly won it with his own unlikely shot off the crossbar.

Eller continues to use his size effectively in the offensive zone, and Galchenyuk picked up his first point in six games with a nifty pass to that sniper Armstrong.

The imminent return of Rene Bourque and, let us hope, Brandon Prust will confront Therrien with some interesting personnel choices. Although he did not juggle his lines in-game against Buffalo, the coach must have been tempted to do something to bring the Canadiens’ attack to life. Bourque and Prust would have helped.

The player whose return would be of greatest benefit has not been cleared to start skating. The Canadiens’ power play went 0-for-2 against the Sabres, and Raphael Diaz would really help. As it was, Josh Gorges was used on the second wave, and he’s just not enough of a point presence to be useful.

Jarred Tinordi played 11:13 in his Bell Centre debut. The rookie took a penalty for firing the puck over the glass but looked generally competent, as did his confrères on the Canadiens defence corps.

Markov topped the ToI list with 26:10. Markov is averaging 24:39 a game – almost two minutes more than P.K., who is 11 years younger (and whose knees are healthier). This is a concern as the playoffs approach.

But by then Diaz should be back.

And the snow that buried Montreal on the last day of winter will have given way to crocuses and Cup dreams.





  1. Say Ash says:

    LOONIE: I need your latest odds on one of Moen, White, Gorges or Bouillon scoring tomorrow.

    • Loonie says:

      Did you wager on my Armdog prediction? I know you were laughing when he potted one.

      If I had to pick any of the players you mentioned scoring tomorrow night I’d go with White.

      But, I’d like to add Desharnais to your list. Whenever he craps the bed he comes back pretty strong.

  2. Mr_MacDougall says:

    I thought Eller, Gallagher and Gionta were the best forwards for the Habs last night.

    The team is missing Prust, it seems when the team is playing poorly Prust always comes up with a huge shift to help change the momentum.

    • Sportfan says:

      We were really missing Prust, if this team hadn’t signed him who knows where we’d be right now. I’m not saying he is the only reason why we are winning, but his energy and the energy he brings to the team and on the ice was missing yesterday. At one point my girlfriend ask why can’t Moen help with that?


      • Mr_MacDougall says:

        Moen is a bumper, not a hitter.. he still bumps a lot, just not hard enough to move anybody off the puck… it’s too bad, he was great ing his contract year.

        The thing about Prust that impresses me is his consistency, every shift he seems to make more positive plays than negative, nothing flashy or dynamic, but the plays that help slant the ice. Prust, Galchenyuk, Gallagher was an impressive 3rd line.. way back when lol

  3. Timo says:

    So besides me, who else like little Davey a lot more at his past salary than his present? I am really hoping that they gave him a contract just so that they can move his rear end at the trade deadline. I hear Bobo is looking for some soft munchkins.

    If Therrien is trying to hang this loss on Subban (which is what he was hinting at last night) I am back on Therrien is a moron train. Most of the team sucked outright. Price with 2 saves on like 5 shots all game. Paccioraty taking an idiotic penalty in the end of the game. D can;t move the puck out. 3/4 of the forwards are sleepwalking. Yep, it’s all Subban’s fault.

    So, who would want DD?

    • HabinBurlington says:

      I don’t think I have turned down Double D’s in my life! 😉 Surprised you would though, shocked actually!

    • shiram says:

      I didn’t like the DD deal as there was no urgency in signing him and Eller was showing signs he could be better than DD.
      With a shrinking cap I’m sure some teams would be interested in trading for him, maybe this off season?

    • CalgaryHab says:

      As much as I like the feel good story that is DD. That’s a lot of money to feel good.

    • JF says:

      I didn’t get the impression Therrien was trying to hang the loss on Subban. He said the team was just going through the motions in the first period but that they played very well once they got their game going. He also gave a lot of credit to Jhonas Enroth. When he was asked what he thought of the play that led to the penalty, he simply said it was a bad play and they would address it and try to ensure it didn’t happen again. I actually liked that he didn’t blame the loss on poor officiating, but don’t see how you can say that his comment on Subban’s penalty was tantamount to pinning the loss on Subban.

      • Loonie says:

        Nearly every scoring chance the Habs had last night reminded me of Tim Thomas stopping Mathieu Darche’s one timer off of the faceoff in the playoffs two years ago. Thomas didn’t see the puck go to Darche and didn’t see the shot, he got ridiculously lucky when the puck hit him in the shoulder.

        Enroth looked intoxicated for most of the game.

    • veryhabby says:

      I have to believe that Therrien didn’t have a good look at the video before his press conference. It;s clear it wasn’t a high stick. But I guess he can still be upset about trying that hit at that time in the game. PK did say he was “talking too much” to the refs all game. So I think there are a lot of things Therrien can go over with him. But Therrien is not going to cut him down, he’s going to teach him.

      As for DD…who cares how much he is being paid. The fact is that TODAY he is our 2nd best O centre. And if in 2 -4 yrs from now Eller and GAlchenyuk pass him on that list…then fine. I have absolute faith that MB will do what is best for this team and not just stay with the guy cause he’s french or whatever others think. This contract gives Eller and Galchenyuk time to develop, while giving Patches a center that feeds him goals on his stick. So yes, he’s small, yes he losses puck battles. But he is a proven 50+ center who next year will make 3.5M. Not unfair. And if in a few years he in our #3 O centers…then great for the habs (cause it means Eller/Gal have developed amazingly), and who is to say he can’t be traded!!! There is nothing negative about this extension. It pays fair, it buys habs time to develop players, it is tradable.

  4. adamkennelly says:

    this team needs a large, crease clearing, Defensive D man for our playoff run but at this stage – we have no where to put him….that being said – are we open to trading Gorges? I know I am.

    • Mr_MacDougall says:

      If it is a ‘hockey trade’ i’d be on board. Gorges is under contract and very over rated by the media, so his stock would be high.. we are seeing that Hal Gill was more important than Gorges for our PK when it was deadly.

      In an ideal world PK and Markov would play together (Pronger Mcinnins, Lidstrom Rafalski)

      Is Diaz a #3? If so a partner for him would be desirable and have Emelin/Boullion/Tinordi as the bottom pairing.

    • veryhabby says:

      adam..Gorges hasn’t looked his stellar self this year. but I wonder if that’s more so cause the rest of our D corp is better. Gorges is no longer our 2nd best dman…cause Markov is back, cause Emelin has developed, cause Bouillion has played 100% to the best he can. No longer do we have slouches on our D corp. Gorges may just be the same Gorges as always, just the rest around him are better this year.

      Having said that, there seems to be something special about Gorges for this team. He is a hab thru and thru and would do anything for this team. Hard to trade away that leadership and heart. Ask NYR if letting Prust go was a good move. Gorges may not be a top Dman, but he is too important to this team right now.

  5. veryhabby says:

    As much as Pk’s non penalty was called changed the outcome of the game….I was just as upset with PAtches and the really dump penalty he took with a little over 2 min to play in the game. It was all MTL, you could almost feel they’d win it in regulation time but Patches runs over the goalie in the crease. It was a real dump penalty. Took away our chance to end the game in regulation time. And because there was no goal scored and then Pk took his penalty…most have not talked about it. 2- 2 min penalties in a spand of 3 minutes was not a good thing.

    • Say Ash says:

      Yup, real dump.

    • CalgaryHab says:

      I agree with you about Patches penalty – killed our momentum. Even though they generated some decent scoring chances with a man down, they were really pouring it on before Patches brain fart.
      I liked the fact that PK will take those runs at people at sometimes questionable periods of the game. It keeps the player carrying the puck across the line thinking about whats about to level him. Refs blew the call – plain and simple – not the first time and won’t be the last.

  6. habs001 says:

    Eller has shown very solid improvement this year..If he could become a goal scoring threat that would elevate him even more…goal scoring consistency will be his biggest challenge and if he is able to attain some of that than he has a chance of being an elite player…

    • veryhabby says:

      I can’t believe how strong he looks on the puck and how he can skate around people while rushing with the puck. Now if only he can make better plays right at the end….he would be elevated to the top 2 lines.

      For now he is going great on the 3rd line. As much as I like DD, he is aweful in puck battles and D zone coverage. this is when size wins out- strength to protect the puck and win battles. If Eller ever shows a greater O side to his game, DD is not finishing his 4 yr contract in MTL!

  7. habsfan0 says:

    If playoffs started today,#2 Habs would play #7 Toronto.

    Tampa Bay is only 5 points out of eighth spot,and by no means out of it.
    Tonight’s game vs the Laffs should be interesting. If the Leafs lose their 6th in a row, the collapse will be officially underway for another year.

  8. Lafleurguy says:

    Arrow77 offered some great insight. The forward lines can be rolled out and ice-time fairly evenly distributed. But as far as the defense is concerned, are Markov and Subban being overplayed, and physical and mental lapses happening as a result?

    “May you live in interesting times.”

  9. shiram says:

    People should keep in mind the expectations they had for this team back in the start of January.
    Many went as far as saying the Habs would not even make the playoffs, after all they finished last next season!

  10. Chuck says:

    The most frustrating part of the game for me was watching the team try to make unnecessarily difficult plays, especially when trying to exit their zone. Two botched clearing attempts (and the resulting poor coverage that comes from players assuming that the puck will be cleared) led directly to the slapshot from the slot and the close-in tip for the two Buffalo goals; these are the simple plays that Therrien was talking about when referring to Galchenyuk’s development.

    As he said, you have to work with what the other team gives you. You’re playing against NHL players, so you have to accept that a great deal of the time these guys know what they are doing and will defend you properly; sometimes the safest play is to bang it out along the boards instead of trying to make a nifty deke. We saw two glaring examples of that last night, with the Habs essentially beating themselves with poor situational awareness.

    Get the simple game right, and they’ll beat those weaker teams in the league with more regularity.

    Being a Hab fan is like buying real estate: only over the long-haul will you appreciate the true value of your investment.

  11. Loonie says:

    Yesterday I brought up the powerplay productivity of individual players with the team.

    Gionta and Desharnais have an abysmal 1 powerplay point per 20 minutes of powerplay ice-time. The counterpoint to this opinion was that their powerplay goals for while on the ice is 23. So collectively those two players accrue points on a third of the powerplay points their line generates. Their lack of point production is a concern for me because those two players are #1 and #2 in powerplay ice-time among forwards. It’s easy to say that they’re part of the glue keeping their line together and a big part of why their lines accumulate points on the powerplay. But why not try featuring Eller and Galchenyuk in their places for a couple of games? It could be the difference between a very good powerplay and an elite powerplay if all turns out well. If it doesn’t go well, you’ve tried in the case of Eller at the very least putting a more productive player in a position where the player he’s replacing has been weak.

    Here’s why I’m concerned about the extension David Desharnais got. First, it forces Galchenyuk to the wing for the indefinite future. He was doing just fine at centre early in the season but Eller took the reigns and made it impossible to keep the status quo. But the move that seemingly hasn’t been thought of is trying Desharnais on the wing. I would argue it’s time.

    Desharnais has only been a plus player in one quarter of the games this season. He more often than not is well below 50% in the faceoff circle and so the argument of Galchenyuk in the faceoff circle being weak is meaningless. If it doesn’t matter for Desharnais, why does it for Galchenyuk? Desharnais’ 22 even strength goals against is also highest on the team.

    He earned his contract with his play over the last two seasons, but it’s time for him to move to the wing. He’s too weak defensively to be relied on as the second most used centreman at even strength and hasn’t been producing enough as a centreman on the powerplay.

    Ryder – Plekanec – Gionta
    Pacioretty – Eller – Gallagher
    Desharnais – Galchenyuk – Armstrong
    Moen – Dumont – White

  12. HabsWinn-ipeg says:

    Only caught the last 6 minutes of the game last night – sounds like I saw the best part. A few thoughts:

    Lars Eller – couldn’t believe his rushes down the ice in the last few minutes. You could just see the Sabres backing off. If he starts to score consistently, he could become one of the Habs best players.

    Carey Price – not a Price basher. He’s 15-4-4 this year, with a .911 Sv% and a 2.35 GAA. Most teams would kill that have that kind of goaltending. Still, there’s something different about him this year. He seems to be down a lot, and then gets beat over the shoulder. But, he’s 15-4-4.

    We talk about when Prust/Bourque/Diaz come back. When I look at the lineup even with those guys, it’s not especially imposing. The Habs are winning with solid players/rising talent combined with a great system. What they lack at the moment is a true sniper (consistent 40 goal scorer) and a physical shut down D (Tinordi may be the answer there, but I’d feel better with a proven guy). Can MB find those guys, and what would the price be?

    Do I think that the Habs have a playoff team right now that can make it through around or two – yes. Do I think they can win the cup – yes, if Price takes it up a notch. But, it seems to me that they are a player or two short of being a favorite at this point.

    Having said all this, it sure is fun to watch them this year.

  13. Ozmodiar says:

    I think Tinordi will eventually help out on the PK. Someone just has to teach him the “Hal Gill fallen redwood manoeuvre”. Something tells me Boullion isn’t the guy.

    • Loonie says:

      I don’t think the issue on the kill is players Oz, I think it’s scheme.

      They carry their even strength philosophy over to the penalty kill and it kills them no pun intended.

      The defensemen vacate dangerous scoring areas when the puck is low and the forwards drop to cover. They leave far too much open ice in the defensive zone on the penalty kill.

      It needs overhauled in my opinion.

    • Mr. Biter says:

      Boullion’s here for this year , then he will be gone. I like how he’ plays but we have better D-men coming up , or unless we can un load Kabs.

      Mr. Biter
      No Guts No Glory

  14. arcosenate says:

    This is supposed to be a feel good story, because it didn’t happen but this is the most frightening things I have read in a while:

    .@JeffMarek says TB owners nixed Lecavalier for Price, Pacioretty, Subban/McDonagh, and a 1st. Every meddling owner should hear this story.

  15. habsfan0 says:

    Any word on who will start tomorrow’s game against the Islanders?Personally,I’d like to see Budaj get the start (he needs the work and has been really good recently)and save Price for the return game vs the Sabres.

  16. Luke says:

    Just need to point this out:

    Colby Armstrong’s goal last night launched him past legendary Canadien and Hockey Inside/Out Hall of Famer: Mike Blunden, for the all time scoring lead amongst ‘Most Unnecessarily Discussed 4th Liners’ in Habs history.

    Armstrong: 29gp 2g 3a 5pts
    St. Blunden: 40gp 2g 2a 4pts

    • Lafleurguy says:

      Colby is playing at a 3 to 4 million salary level, instead of the 1 mill he’s earning. Just trying out a new measuring stick. Okay, now off to stir the pot with said stick…..

      “May you live in interesting times.”

    • 2mins4lookinsooogood says:

      Blasphemy Luke! I hope you took the precaution of throwing some salt over your shoulder when you wrote that 🙂

      “Don’t crush that dwarf Alex Henry, hand me the pliers”

    • krob1000 says:

      This is an HIO myth…..that fourth liners do not matter. Fourth liners offensive numbers do not matter necessarily but 4th liners very much matter and if you have a 4th line tha can play even hockey you are in the money matchup wise…if you have a 4th line that can play plus hockey you are likely a cup contender.

      The whole game of hockey and all sport for that matter is so close that it becomes n a sense a numbers game in a number of different areas. Passes, passes denied, Passes forced, shots taken, shots on net, shots that miss, shots that were not taken, hits that land, hits that don’t, hits that take a guy out of position, hits that cause a guy to hurry, winning faceoffs clean, wingers winning faceoffs, pucks dropped poorly,etc, bad penalties, bad penalty calls, missed penalties,etc,etc,etc,

      There are thousands of “plays” in a hockey game and they ALL matter….whether made by a fourth liner or not…ideally you would like to optimize your opportunities by your players with a higher likelihood of scoring offensively and vice versa defensivley…but to insinuate as many do on here that 4th liners do not matter is ridiculous.
      The idea they are completely interchangeable to me is not valid either..players of a certain type are available and easy to come by but a better 4th lne is always important…more important than many other stats that people often attribute losses to like faceoff percentage, etc.

      A goal is often scored several minutes into continuous play without stoppage in play…does that mean that only the plays immediately preceeding that goal mattered? of course not…
      ANY area you can imporve your team is an improvement, any chances you can eliminate from the opposition and any chances and advantages you can have the better. 4th lines are an area where an advantage can definitely be gained…teams that have a 4th line they can trust against any line have a very distinct advantage. Teams built like Montreal where 3 lines can be expected to outscore the opposition and onte expected to play even hockey…I like the chances of a team like that.
      One point in the standings can be the difference in making the playoffs, altering your draft position, determining your opponent, having hoem ice or not, that game can be decided by one goal that could be attributed in part to a play a minute away from the goal.

      • Luke says:

        Oh, they matter. Boston’s success a couple years back was in part due to having the best 4th line in the league. But aside from Thornton… who else was on it?

        They matter. Decent 4th liners matter, of course… I just don’t think they deserve the amount of virtual ink they receive around here.
        They don’t make or break the team. If you give Buffalo the best 4th line in hockey it won’t make the Sabres a playoff team. It’ll make them harder to play against though…

      • JF says:

        One of the Habs’ biggest faults in recent years has been the attitude that the fourth line doesn’t matter. Pierre Gauthier in particular had a habit of exchanging fourth-liners to save insignificant amounts of cap space – Halpern for Dominic Moore, then Andreas Engqivst for Halpern, as though all these players were equivalent because the line itself was just a bunch of spare parts. And how many times under JM did we see a fourth line composed of the extra defenceman, whatever forward was in his doghouse, and any other spare body? This year we have a fourth line that can do its job; at the moment, we even have options on that line, with Dumont outplaying White and with Prust possibly slotting in on that line when he and Bourque return.

      • 2mins4lookinsooogood says:

        Krob, no arguement here on the importance of the 4th line – that we didn’t really have one since 2007-8 is the single most underrated problem the team had – but i think the tongue in cheek comment from Luke was also valid as it pertains to overstating a singular player as opposed to the concept of the line.

        Luke, Paille and Elbow Pad Campbell … interchangeable and terrific penalty killers and in Paille’s case, blazing speed but stone hands

        “Don’t crush that dwarf Alex Henry, hand me the pliers”

    • Steeltown Hab says:

      Great Goal by Colby, deserves credit for the finish.

      With a healthy lineup he’s still the obvious scratch in my mind though.


      Lars, PK, Galchenyuk, Pac, Emelin – @J_Perez22

    • Psycho29 says:

      I’ll take Armstrong’s hard work at $1M on my team anytime. (If I had a team that is)

  17. habsfan0 says:

    Exactly 2 weeks to trade deadline day.
    Some players will now start to get nervous.

    • Lafleurguy says:

      While others will happily join strong contending teams. They want to have former Blue Jackets’ Jeff Carter’s luck, and not Jack Johnson’s. Blue Jackets have fought their way to a tie for eighth currently.

      “May you live in interesting times.”

    • Kooch7800 says:

      I don’t think the habs will be very active other than maybe dumping some players if at all possible

      “Keep your stick on the Ice”

    • otisfxu says:

      Not sure the word is nervous,,,,,who would be nervous about getting traded? Unless of course you are a throw in to get a trade done and your new team sends you to the minors,,,,,,,so maybe DD might be nervous I guess,,,,,,,,,,,
      Seriously, the Habs as a team are playing well, but as individual players, we have about 5-6 guys who other teams would really want, and they are our best players.

  18. 2mins4lookinsooogood says:

    Meh. Some keystone cops defensive zone coverage and a first game game back fog – Not something to get overly concerned with.

    Probably had it been on the road, they would have converted the huge advantage in scoring chances and won a sloppy 5-2 game …

    My only issue is that in the last few games, they don’t seem to be as good on the forecheck and are allowing too many easy transitions for the other teams.

    Ottawa showed that the Islanders still have defensive issues and Buffalo won’t this lucky on Saturday.

    But really, win or lose, I can’t wait for Friday to see which cornerstone Canadien will be ordered traded for a tough guy with 3 NHL goals and how Budaj should be the number one goaltender.

    Ever More.

    “Don’t crush that dwarf Alex Henry, hand me the pliers”

  19. Habfan10912 says:

    We spend a lot times as fans picking apart individual players and plays. As fans that’s what we do. But this team is headed to the playoffs and there are some things that need to improve systemically. If this team is to have a long play off run at the top of this list I’d put the penalty kill unit. How is it with a team with Pleks, Gio, Gorges, Eller and Moen, all good penalty killers in the past, have not been a strength of the teams this season?
    Last I looked we were around the bottom third of the league at 79%. That’s got to get better and I’ll be damn if I can put my finger on why it isn’t.

    • habs-fan-84 says:

      The crazy thing is, as bad as we were last year, I seem to recall having a REALLY good PK.

    • Special teams absolutely. We need to be better for sure. I like the ping-pong we played earlier in the year and had a great power play. Then, meh… Seems also that we tend to get chocked in our own end when we are on the PK and wondering what Gorges is up too? I mean is he what we have to look forward to as a captain?

      Promote the Youth, Support From The Veterans and Remember the Heritage!

    • 2mins4lookinsooogood says:

      Hal Gill … and that’s what we need for Tinordi to be able to do on the PK. Use the long reach to close down the cross lanes (I cringe when Bouillion and Diaz are on the ice on PK) and the body to block out the crease entry and block shots.

      Historically, we are looking for a Sopel like rental for just this purpose, but Frankie B is problably going to be the odd man out.

      “Don’t crush that dwarf Alex Henry, hand me the pliers”

    • Lafleurguy says:

      A defence with the non-old Jaroslav Spacek, and Hal Gill broke up plays, and blocked shots far more effectively. Hardly a whisper this year about great shot-blocking, and I guess this is mostly a good thing. On the P.K. thing (the other pk topic), I remember Markov making a bad pinch in a loss a few weeks ago, and a key goal resulted. We have such great respect for Andrei that the posts just mildly referred to him as having lost a step. The criticism of PK’s bad plays is toning down a bit this year. Think about this: between his abilities and his cap-friendly contract, trading him could net you any player not named Crosby.

      “May you live in interesting times.”

      • Arrow77 says:

        Play Markov too much and you get tired legs. Play P.K. too much and his legs will still be there but his mind will be tired and he will make mistakes. Difference between old and new right there.

      • shandrew says:

        That’s interesting – I was having this conversation with my son last night. Could you get anyone not named Crosby for PK? Stamkos? Tavares? I don’t think so, but if it were possible MB would at least have to think about it. Thing is, PK has the potential to be a superstar dman for the next 10 years and those guys don’t come along very often. If he were traded, I think we’d regret it.

        • Lafleurguy says:

          In my defence, this is HIO, and I think other posters have gone over-the-top before! Cheers.

          “May you live in interesting times.”

          P.S……I remember what I was thinking……..P.K.’s contract amplifies his value, if he were at 5 mill/year, then he would be less valuable as a trade piece.

    • shiram says:

      Seems to me Pleks is not playing on the Pk as much as he was before, could be wrong though, haven’t checked the stats.

      I think I heard the RDS guy talking about going from a square PK formation to a diamond or something…

  20. adamkennelly says:

    Fact that we saw a lot of the old PK last night. Team was being frustrated by bad zone entries, blocked and missed shots and you could see him trying to do it himself a few times – never generated anything and screwed up a few times. He is not the reason we lost but didn’t have his best game. Gallagher is a stud…most visible Forward on the team right now.

  21. Lafleurguy says:

    Putting out a call for people to slam Gallagher. If only he were more accurate with his shot while lunging at full effort, the puck would have gone in instead of ringing off the crossbar. Needs more seasoning. Needs to work on this play in the “A.” Unlike HH, I’m dead serious.

    “May you live in interesting times.”

  22. OK, I’ve had enough of this “Price is our franchise goalie thing”. I’m not bashing him, I just want to put his performance in perspective. His best year was 2010 where he had 8 shutouts and his save % and GAA were not Vezina worthy. In each of his other years in his young career, have been in the .915 range and 2.3 range. Good and certainly being an NHL starter puts him in the top half of the leagues starters. But for those who think he is stellar, excellent, etc… I just don’t get it. He has his bad games like everyone else. He can be great too and is he our starter for the next five plus years? Yup! But is he a Vezina winning goalie? Not yet and likely not until his defense corps get their act together night in and night out, unlike our boys right now. So for you Price bashers, no need to dump on him. He’s good, just not the greatest. For you rose colored Price supporters… he’s no Dryden, Roy, Hextall, or even, it seems, Bobrovsky at this point. Let’s just hope he continues to improve into his late 20’s and early 30’s and brings those numbers gradually down. Let’s also hope that our boys keep scoring to steal games since our GAA isn’t that great this year (2.5 goals a night). ‘Nuff said!

    Promote the Youth, Support From The Veterans and Remember the Heritage!

    • hockeymaniac31 says:

      He had no chance on either of those 3 goals. I’ll admit at times this year he just needed to steal a game or 2 but you can’t rely on your goalie to do that game in and game out like they have in the past. why don’t you put the blame on the defense on letting him out to dry or is that too complicated for you to do than just blame the goalie for every goal that goes in.

      • I wasn’t talking about last night Maniac… I was talking in general. I also wasn’t blaming anyone. I was just laying out in a rational discussion, what we should expect from Price and what we shouldn’t at this stage in his development, because he’s still developing, but clearly, I touched a Price button that you and so many others have on their butts 😉

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        • krob1000 says:

          Being critical is one thing but being upset he is not a Vezina winner? You kind of lost me at Vezina? Let’s just trade the whole team becasuse I don’t see a Hart trophy winner in there?
          You do realize that it is a team sport and having a Vezina or Hart winner or both and a Norris trophy winner for that matter do not ensure the cup…right?
          He is what he is a reliable, top end starting goalie who will give you a chance to win every night….that is all a team can ask for….far easier to play for than a hot/cold goalie who may steal you games now and then but lose others. Price is steady as a rock as far as goaltenders go.

        • Arrow77 says:

          I agree with Maniac that the timing and place of your post made it look like you were blaming Price for the loss, even though the post itself didn’t. The problem with this topic is that the words “I’m not a Price basher but…” or something similar is starting to be equivalent of “I’m not racist but…”, i.e. the beginning of a sentence that will prove the exact opposite.

          I agree that Price never had a Vezina worthy season yet but that’s not what a franchise goalie is. A franchise goalie is a goalie you can build your team around and a goalie that can play as many games as Price and still post solid numbers is a goalie you can build a team around.

      • Cal says:

        Because you’re being snarky, it’s “hanging him out to dry”. So there. Nyah, nyah!
        Ah, I feel better now.

    • Lafleurguy says:

      Pittsburg, Detroit, and Chicago have won with non-Vezina trophy winning goalies. Price can do the job. Tony Esposito was just as good as Ken Dryden, but won six fewer cups than the former Leafs’ president. Team approach.

      “May you live in interesting times.”

      • Thank you Lafleurguy. That is absolutely true, which is why I mentioned that our D has to get more consistent (think Markov at the beginning of this shortened season and how he is now, good, not great, slower and off with shots). No question we can win the Cup with Price at his level now, we just can’t expect him to steal too many games if we don’t score. Ehnroth did a great job for Sabres last night and Price seems to perform better when he is fielding lots of shots instead of 20 or so in a game. Needs to keep on his feet and stay sharp.

        Promote the Youth, Support From The Veterans and Remember the Heritage!

        • Lafleurguy says:

          I also have been steamrolled by posts filled with rage, and it’s just the world today and probably always. Your opinion was well-thought out. I think most of us think more highly of Pricey though. Kept it 2-1 with some good saves.

          “May you live in interesting times.”

        • shandrew says:

          I have always been a staunch Price supporter, but oldschool’s comments have given me pause…damn!

    • habsfan0 says:

      I agree completely with your post, Lorne.
      Just for the record,however,there are no Price “haters” here.
      Only Price “doubters” of which I am one.

      It would be interesting to know if anybody knows what Price’s career NHL stats are in regular season OT,shoot outs,and playoff OT games.
      I.E.,”high pressure” situations.

      • Hmm… good question and measured comment, despite your choice of tie and jacket color. I must have pushed the wrong button on Maniac as he seems to have had far too much Price cool-aid at this time of the morning!

        Like the Fantasy News comments too: http://fantasynews.cbssports.com/fantasyhockey/players/playerpage/565838/carey-price

        Promote the Youth, Support From The Veterans and Remember the Heritage!

        • hockeymaniac31 says:

          Hey Price had over a .915 save % on a LAST place team last year. Like I said earlier the average fan will blame goaltending over bad D everytime. You can’t expect price or any goalie to stop a puck when its deflected or the guy is screened (most of the goals that are allowed by price are that way). We need D-men who can clear the crease so that doesnt happen. Price IS a top 5 goalie but his stats dont show it for the reason’s I have mentioned though

    • Luke says:

      Funny you rail against people overrating Price and compare him to not even being as good as Bobrovsky to validate your argument.

      Bobrovsky… he of the one good strech of hockey in his career…

  23. hockeymaniac31 says:

    For some reason the Habs just can’t beat Buffalo and the Islanders. And those are the only teams we play this week. NEED these 4 points coming up. Can’t wait for bourque to come back. Him playing with galchenyuk and eller will be exciting to watch only if he plays like he did before the injury.

  24. La Duke 16 says:

    It is going to be a fun 5 year ride!

    Eller is a late bloomer, but he is now very fun to watch.

    I can’t wait to see the line ups with Prust and Bourque coming back.

  25. Habitforming says:

    Therrien was pretty quick to jump on PK for that phantom call instead of watching a replay and seeing he didn’t touch him. Anyone else suprised by that? …. didn’t think so.

    I’ll disagree with Boone on the play as well that it wasn’t necessary to go for a big hit on the play. How many times have we seen a big hit provide a boost for the team? If he connected, the Habs would have won and no one would mention the turning point being the big hit he laid on Pysyk. In stead, a phantom call was made and now Therrien will “make him a better person” for it.

    • HabsFanInTampa says:

      “…..if he connected, the Habs would have won……” Do you have tonight’s winning Lotto numbers too?

    • Chuck says:

      Your crystal ball must be working better than mine to be able to say that the Habs would have won the game had P.K. connected with that hit.

      Regardless of the penalty call, it wasn’t a smart play in overtime.

      Being a Hab fan is like buying real estate: only over the long-haul will you appreciate the true value of your investment.

    • Mike Boone says:

      Jump-starting the team in OT? That’s a new one on me. Maybe he could start a fight during the Shootout.

      Mike Boone
      Hockey Inside/Out blogger

  26. calvee123 says:

    The Habs need to work on their penalty kill also. Hopefully this will come together soon as it is their Achelies Heel….

  27. Loonie says:

    Subban didn’t make a mistake with his attempted check. He saw a rookie defenseman rushing the puck with his head down and stepped up to hit him. If he misses, which he did the play is likely to result in Pysyk losing possession or going offside, which it did. The only mistake he made was losing control of his stick.

    The reward would have been a 4 on 3 rush for the Habs with a Sabre defenseman lying on the ice and out of the play.

    • habs-fan-84 says:

      Agreed. That play is hard wired into his system. Therrien didn’t like the call, but I get the feeling he didn’t like the play either. Like I said, if Subban makes that hit it’s the hit of the year and all are singing his praises, as it would have resulted in an odd man rush in Montreal’s favour. Therrien doesn’t want him taking himself out of the play to make the “big hit” and PK is going to have to adjust.

    • Mattyleg says:

      It was a reckless check that didn’t need to happen.
      He had his back to Pysyk.
      As soon as you turn your back on a player, you are in a bad position.

      —Hope Springs Eternal—

    • Ozmodiar says:

      A high risk, high reward play that didn’t work out. Generally speaking, these are called mistakes.

  28. habsfan0 says:

    Mike Robitaille on WGR radio in Buffalo this morning said the difference in last night’s game was goaltending.

  29. commandant says:

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  30. Lafleurguy says:

    Pretty good team but not at the Penguins’ or Blackhawks’ level. Happily, Bruins have trouble scoring. Sabres resembled the Habs of the three previous seasons. I’m surprised at the small number of harsh comments, especially when I visualize what the posting would have been like last year after a loss like this.

    Players don’t earn a contract based on one game. There are some that just aren’t fans of Desharnais. When he wins one for the team in a shootout, there’s light applause then a “meh.” He’s an important part of this team, and is here ’cause more expensive guys like Gomez, and Tanguay didn’t work out.

    Here’s a novel idea on what measuring stick can be used: points in the standings.

    Karma Burly! Cheers

    “May you live in interesting times.”

  31. LeHabfan13 says:

    Thursday on the Island if they Play like they did in the 2nd & 3rd periods last night they’ll come away with 2-points. anything less they’ll come away with 0-points. The Islanders will not be a cake walk ….

  32. calvee123 says:

    Well good morning to all HI/O people. I just want to wade into this topic of last night. I believe that Montreal needs these type of incidents ( like 6-0 drubbin from Toronto) to learn from so that this doesn’t happen come play-off time. This season, be it a short one, lessons come in all different ways. Had the Canadiens cruised to a 4-1 victory, this type of lesson would not be there to draw from. Penaltys in the last 5 mins of the game when you have all the momentum, then the penalty in the OT. These are hard to take, but take the lesson from them now, use them come play-off time. I personally am very happy how this season has gone. Some times as humans, we need to make a few mistakes to know what not to do……….. Just my thoughts

  33. krob1000 says:

    I unfortunately only saw the first last night….
    How did Emelin do in his fight? did he initiate that? I am just curious because that is now 2 fights and I hope he hasn’t become confident enought o start fighting again..not that he can’t…but moreso for his health as his development as been a big key to the teams success.
    I also see plenty of kudos going out to Eller…he and Galchenyu had a good game again I guess…nice to hear.
    The PK thing I saw the replay of..I can see where the call was made..but then againt he tv view is from pretty far away but I sort of get that one as crappy as it is in retrospect.
    At least the Bruins lost.

    • HabinBurlington says:

      Foligno I think had given Emelin an extra nudge after the play, Emelin returned the nudge and both players immediately engaged. Emelin didn’t really get any shots in, as he was trying to fight with his head near ice level so as to avoid getting hit. One could argue he did worse in this one than he did with Chara.

      Having said that, I think it may have helped spark the Habs. White is probably petrified to do such a thing, Moen seems to have forgotten he can fill this role and then the list of scrappers on this team runs dry with Prust out.

      Perhaps indeed it is time to see if a Clowe is available.

    • habs-fan-84 says:

      Emelin didn’t initiate the fight, he was essentially forced into it. That said, he stood up for himself with respect and it was good to see.

      He’s answered the bell twice now. With the way he hits, he’s going to have to drop ’em on occasion – he has, and good for him.

    • Luke says:

      Emelin absorbed about three shots and threw a looping overhand that didn’t connect.

      It wasn’t much of a fight and Foligno had thrown the majority of his three punches before Emelin had his gloves off.

      Bascially, Emelin and Foligno meet at the boards, F gives a shot E gives a cross-checkier shot and gets ready to give another but F has dropped his gloves and started throwing… AE looked surprised by it…

      I mentioned it at the beginning of the season, AE better expect it. With the way he plays, and now he’s adding the stick, he’s going to see a lot more fists.

  34. HabinBurlington says:

    So Jake Gardiner has indeed been set “Free” , the Leafs have sent another piece of their truculance down to the Marlies in order to play better hockey.

  35. habs-fan-84 says:

    So, Lars Eller once again had a very strong game, especially in the third. It’s been a joy to watch all year. Gionta had so many opportunities last night and was flying out there, too bad he wasn’t able to capitalize.

    I don’t want to be too hard on PK. Lots of people want to jump on him, but if he makes that hit, it’s the hit of the year and people are singing his praises. At the end of the day it was a missed call by the ref and shouldn’t have been a penalty. People will argue he shouldn’t even attempted that hit at that time in the game, but let’s be honest he’s still young and learning. A year from now I doubt he make’s that same play.

    We got a point and are still first in the Northeast (and Boston has finally almost closed the gap on games played). Let’s move on to Thursday.

  36. Ian Cobb says:

    Hope Bourque gets back soon, before he forgets his different play this year over last!

  37. JUST ME says:

    This one goes in the win as a team lose as a team category. This game was lost in the first period and not because of P.K. What we like about the guy is actually the same as what makes him take penalties he should not take. I am sure that Therrien did not even need to talk with P.K. about it but did it anyway.

    The thing is that we have to be ready for those games. For an unknown reason when we meet those teams Sabres,Islanders,Maple Laughs we tend to lose our rythm and actually try to follow the opponent and see how it goes.

  38. Bash says:

    Come on guys!
    Not even one like for naming Subban’s arse- foremost signature hit:

    The “Loose Caboose”

    “If all you have is a hammer, everything looks like a nail.” (anon)

  39. LeHabfan13 says:

    They lost because Enroth kept them off the scoreboard for 2-periods.
    The Habs were all over them in the 2nd and 3rd period and couldn’t beat Enroth for the 3rd goal.

    Good job by Enroth for stealing a game out shot 26 to 8 in the 2nd and 3rd period. Not so good a job by the Habs trying to beat him.

  40. munch17 says:

    So Gionta ( get rid of him ) has 16 points + 4, Lars ( he’ll never be a second line center ) has 16 points + 6 and Chucky ( should he go back to junior ) has 14 points + 9.
    Meanwhile playing top power play minutes DD has 16 points and is -3.
    At least Lars is now getting more minutes,
    And at least DD doesn’t have a no trade clause.

    • Phil C says:

      Just when I thought you were defending Habs’ players, you then bash DD. It’s okay for them all to have success, having three lines that can score is part of why they are winning.

      And they could trade DD in a heartbeat. Have a look around the league, 60 point centres are hard to find.

      • HabinBurlington says:

        It is imperative in life to have a common enemy, it is what rallies us together Phil. The Bruins well yah okay we all hate them, but come on you gotta get on the DD bandwagon of Hate man!!! 😉

        Edit:(as an fyi, the bandwagon has a very simple procedure to change the nameplate and number, it can easily be 76, 81, 31 etc….)

      • Steeltown Hab says:

        if DD is a 60 pt center, Kulemin is a 30 goal scorer. Let’s not be leaf fans okay.


        Lars, PK, Galchenyuk, Pac, Emelin – @J_Perez22

        • HabinBurlington says:

          Steeltown, I am not a huge fan of DD, but he is a Hab and he has been a solid point producing one. He does bring some nice offensive intangibles to the team. Do I think he was overpaid, perhaps slightly, but his production should make him tradeable if the need arises. He did have a bad game last night, but he has also had many good ones.

          Eller is getting his time and his due, so DD is not preventing him from excelling as many perceived. DD did get 60 points last year, he has produced numbers at every level he has played at. He is not having the start to this year we wanted, but I don’t think he is as weak a player as your portray.

          I do understand where you are coming from.

          CHeers bud.

          • Steeltown Hab says:

            Never spoke about Eller or DD as a player. Just the notion that DD is a “60-pt C” He’s on pace for 45pts over 82 this year. Just because he put up 60 last year doesn’t mean he’s a 60-pt guy for his career going forward, just as simple as that.


            Lars, PK, Galchenyuk, Pac, Emelin – @J_Perez22

      • otisfxu says:

        Like so many of you, including MB, you are dreaming when it comes to DD. Maybe at 1.5 M you could find a taker,,,but forget it at 3.5M. He’s another Gomez.

        I love the logic when it comes to DD. Everyone says how good he is, great that he is signed,,,then the next statement is always,,,if he doesn’t work out we can easily trade him!!! IF HE DOESN”T WORK OUT IT MEANS HE IS A DUD _ WHO WOULD THEN WANT HIM?

        • Phil C says:

          The logic is he is good AND he is tradable. The Habs are deep at centre, something will have to give eventually. The Habs can then trade from a position of strength to improve depth at other positions.

        • HabinBurlington says:

          Or it could mean we have an excess of players at that position but his production is good enough that he can be traded.

      • Steeltown Hab says:

        Just curious what kind of return you think they could get for Desharnais in a heartbeat.


        Lars, PK, Galchenyuk, Pac, Emelin – @J_Perez22

        • otisfxu says:

          other than a midget wrastler?,,,,,,,,,,probably not much. The name David Desharnais outside of Quebec would always be followed by the word Who?

  41. Habfan10912 says:

    Lars Eller is keeping the opponents off balance nearly as well as HardHabits does here. Bravo HH. Thanks for the laughs this morning. Post of the day! CHeers.

  42. Ian Cobb says:

    Even though Kerry Fraser said that there was no penalty made by PK and that the Reff made the wrong call, PK is still to blame for taking himself out of the play by trying to make a very high risk hit in overtime!

    Therrien told him before, to let the hits come to him and not go after the hit as he tends to do, for exactly the reason that occurred last night. I am sure Therrien will give PK an ear full. But as all of the kids, they are learning and getting better.

    Eller is going to be a large part of this team for years, his confidence is showing big time.
    Emilin fighting again! with a steel plate in his head! not good!
    Armstrong is our new scoring machine? And I thought he should be dumped overboard just a month ago.

    Gallagher is unstoppable, he is just like a black fly, he is in your face, your nose, your eyes and your ears. He drives their D crazy!

    We are a very well taught and coached team this year. It is fantastic how the coaching is bringing along each youngster game by game.
    We are going to make a noise in this years play offs. Not necessarily a cup this year, but it won’t be very long!

    • Habfan10912 says:

      You are right on about PK. He plays the game with enthusiasm and he’s learning to pick his spots. This type of play happened a lot last season and he’s cut down on these drastically this season. I’m sure it’s a learning experience for PK. He’ll be fine.

    • Luke says:

      I think if he had made contact, PK could have very easily been sent to the box for charging…

  43. Habfan10912 says:

    Happy 65th Birthday to the best player I ever disliked, Bobby Orr. Man, was he a good one to dislike.

    • Dunboyne Mike says:

      Is there a memoir about to be published?

      • HabinBurlington says:

        Yes, an authorized biography by Bobby himself is due out soon. There have been others written but never with Bobby involved, look forward to reading it. That was back when I still disliked the Bruins but respected them, today not so much.

        • bel33 says:

          Bob McKenzie just tweeted it’ll be out in October. I may (I know this is crazy) buy it for my buddy who for some reason likes the Bruins. lol

          • habsfan0 says:

            I wonder if this biography will mention Orr’s biggest disappointment in his professional career.
            Perhaps the 1971 series vs the Habs?

  44. Habfan10912 says:

    Good morning all. A point the team probably didn’t deserve but earned by absolutely dominating play for 15 minutes. Eller continues to prove so called experts like Pierre “I played with his Uncle at St. Lawrence where his Uncle was zamboni operator” McGuire wrong. This young man may yet develop into a star in this league. A big positive step forward for the organization.
    PK? All the things I love about him are the things that cause him to put himself into the type of position he was caught in last night. The kid is excitable and plays with such enthusiasm that every once in a while it happens. It still should not have been called though. I was watching a couple other games at the same time last night and there were two blatant high sticks call, one where the puck carrier had a stick wrapped across his throat, that went uncalled. But in our game they call a high stick penalty that wasn’t. Meh.
    Take the point but be left hungry for Thursday and Saturday boys. Go get em.

  45. Laramy87 says:

    First place in the division, large gap on other teams (save for Pittsburgh and Boston), ONE LOSS (ill repeat) ONE LOSS in regulation in the LAST 18 GAMES, and we are still complaining because we lost a game in OT. Buffalo often seems to be a team we struggle with and the fact that Habs only played 20 minutes last night and got a point I would say is pretty good.

    Some ppl just need to give their head a shake. Look at the positives of this season, not negatively over an OT loss. MT has done an excellent job in getting the boys focused after a loss so I expect a different team tomorrow in Long Island. Price haters are just as dumb as Leaf Fans. Run our franchise goalie out of town and be stuck with WHO? Thats all you need to think about.

  46. John Q Public says:

    Time for DD to be shifted to wing when bodies come back.
    Can’t win them all.
    2 refs = Double the stupidity!
    Stop F****** Snowing.

    • Luke says:


      Are you breaking up the Eller/Galchenyuk combo that is seemingly on the verge of domintating every moment the game that they are on the ice together?

  47. Bob_Sacamano says:

    All this talk about P.K. is ridiculous. Going for that big hit in OT wasn´t necessary but he still was very unlucky to get penalized. I also think it´s always good to get a point after a very bad first period and being down two goals. So I can´t complain about the OT loss in the end. For me one point is another step towards home-ice in the first round. I´m more than okay with that at the moment.

    I´m very happy with/for Eller. Where´s the “I´m not sold on Eller” group now? Where are the “Desharnais is better than Eller” guys? Feeling pretty stupid? Good.

    This team definitely has to improve shorthanded. Other than that, it might be the time to stop pretending DD is a first or second line center. He is not. Even Therrien knows that. Eller finally got more ice time than Desharnais in the last two games. Long may that continue as the team will benefit.

    • Steeltown Hab says:

      100 % agree with everything said. Eller is getting more Ice than DD now, but that brings down Gallagher and Paciorettys ice which is a problem.

      The issue with Desharnais, is you need to insulate him with physical guys, you put him out there with Gionta, Galchenyuk (at the moment) or Ryder, and the line is immediately soft. It’s tough setting the lines up when you have to cater these kind of conditions for one player.


      Lars, PK, Galchenyuk, Pac, Emelin – @J_Perez22

      • Bob_Sacamano says:

        That´s true. I think Plekanec should play between Pacioretty and Gallagher. Then we would have seven players: Eller, Galchenyuk, Prust, Desharnais, Bourque, Ryder and Gionta for the other six spots on the second and third line.

    • Ozmodiar says:

      > Where´s the “I´m not sold on Eller” group now?

      They’re morphing into the “thank MT for Eller’s development” group.

  48. Dickie9 says:

    I have posted it on the other thread and will post again.

    MB will regret the 14 million for 4 years.

  49. 24 Cups says:

    The 4th ranked Habs were playing the 26th ranked Sabres on home ice with Buffalo’s back-up in net. An easy two points, a perfect slam dunk. I know because I called it yesterday afternoon. I also got called on my call! Oh well, back to the drawing board.

    There were basically two games played last night. The Habs came out flat and had two goals scored against them because they couldn’t clear their own end. The first one was on Gorges, DD and Subban while the 2nd was the responsibility of MaxPac. Note: There is a cliché in sports that a player sometimes punches above his weight or plays bigger than he is. That’s certainly not the case for Josh Gorges. There is no way this guy plays like he’s 6’1″. This team will know it’s seriously in the hunt for the Cup when Gorges is getting 3rd pairing minutes. I can’t wait for Tinordi to pass him on the depth chart in a few years. Pardon me, I digress.

    Everyone is talking about the play of Gallagher and rightly so. He’s the best feel good story to hit town ever since Koivu arrived as a young kid from Finland. Having said that, I just love the way Eller continues to perform. His improved play has to the biggest story of the year in Habland.

    I thought the call on MaxPac in the crease was a cheap call. He stationed himself in front of the net (which Habs haven’t done for 20 years) and then somehow just fell over. Maybe he tripped on the goalie’s leg or stick. I don’t think it was intentional. As for Subban, he has to remember one thing (as do all Hab players). A penalty in overtime is basically an automatic goal for the other team. There is just no way to defend 4 on 3 as it becomes a shooting gallery for the other team. Although Andrei Markov came within a few seconds of doing so. I still think Markov’s presence on the ice, as well as his heavy TOI minutes, is one of the main reasons this team has turned around so dramatically. As for Subban, I think we need to remember two things. He’s still just in his 3rd year of NHL play. Secondly, fans can’t forget all the great things he does throughout a game just because he makes one miscue. A miscue that could have gone either way depending on the officiating. I’m still mystified that a two ref system is not any better than a one man show. It certainly has taken away the discretionary element of calling a game.

    Things still look great for the Habs. The only real concern has to be the slow mending injury to Diaz. Kaberle might still get to play a few more games if the Hab PP goes in the dumpster.

    • JF says:

      Good comments, Steve. Whenever we lose, people are ready to pounce on a single mistake and put the loss on that player. There are always going to be mistakes (and it seems that there will always be bad officiating), but we win or lose as a team. If we’d played the first two periods the way we played the third, we’d have won.

      Diaz is certainly a concern. It was a freak accident and didn’t seem at the time to amount to anything. He is doing what are described as “light workouts,” so hopefully he’ll be back by early April.

      When the team got going last night, they looked great. My main concern is the penalty kill, which is decidedly mediocre. It’s puzzling that in this one area of the game, the team is so much worse than last year, while in every other area they’re so much better. The penalty kill will need to be better in the playoffs.

    • Ian Cobb says:

      Good post Steve!
      Hope Bourque gets back soon, before he forgets his different play this year over last!

  50. 123456 says:

    wow that game started poor, all those jumping on PK for the OT hit you have to realize it was NOT a penalty – it was a poor call. the issue I have with that play is it was really a 2 on 2 and in that situation you do not take the body, habs did have 2 forwards on the backcheck but still at that point it’s not a body situation.

    having said that, the first goal was all on PK for not clearing the zone… but he was interfered with while trying to get back into the play (chaulk that up to a good play by the non scoring buffalo player).

    the comeback was good – not a bad thing to get a point. I would expect a lot better effort (esp early) in the next two games against teams a lot lower in the standings…..

    love this site, like the intelligent comments, the trolls are amusing.

  51. Cal says:

    If the Habs won them all we’d have nothing to bitch and moan about. Did anyone think they’d be 19-5-5? Hell, I was hoping for at best 6th in the conference this season, so this change in fortune is all bonus and great fun to watch. Okay, maybe last night wasn’t, but still the Habs are making me enjoy hockey again after decades of spinning their wheels.

  52. ed says:

    How good does Lars Eller look taking the puck through the neutral zone with great speed, then using his hands to make defenders miss and back off the blue line??

    How good does Lars Eller look using his size to beat off defenders down low, then using his burst to escape their checks against the boards, giving him time to control the puck and keep the play alive?

    How good does Lars Eller look on the back check, catching puck handlers from behind, forcing them to rush their plays, and often breaking up the plays all together??

    How good does Lars Eller look?

    We have seen Max and Subban develop into stars and now we are seeing the same with Eller.

    Eller will be a terrific, 3 zone, top 6 center in this league!!

    Fantastic player!

    • HabinBurlington says:

      It is unbelievable how tantalizing this guy is looking Ed. All credit to the pro scouts, PG etc.. for realizing what dividends that trade would pay off.

      • Cape Breton says:

        Hats off to MT as well for sitting Eller out earlier and pissing him off. A fantastic kick in the ass. And what a fun player to watch as a result.

        • Bob_Sacamano says:

          MT gets way too much credit here. Eller is playing great because he´s a great player. Pretty simple actually.

          • Marcusman says:

            Completely disagree…Eller waltzed back from Europe and expected his spot to be handed to him.. the coach put him in his place and Eller have responded .MT is an old school coach and rewards those who are working hard. .he’s 100% committed to the team, the system they are playing, he’s conditioning and even his diet.

            He’s showing tons of skill and potential at this point…he in generally one of our better players each night. ( mind you i was complaining about the coach putting Armstrong on their line, so what do I know!)

          • Steeltown Hab says:

            @marcusman “waltzed back from Europe and expected a spot to be handed to him” …WTF. Classic example of someone who is brainwashed by MTL media.


            Lars, PK, Galchenyuk, Pac, Emelin – @J_Perez22

        • Steeltown Hab says:

          Ya seriously scratching him didn’t make him the player he is today. If it did please scratch DD so he can develop a defensive game of any kind.


          Lars, PK, Galchenyuk, Pac, Emelin – @J_Perez22

        • Ozmodiar says:

          Eller was sat after 1 game. We don’t know what impact it had. The sample size prior to the benching is just too small.

          He’s better than last year, but that’s a natural progression at that age. He was playing pretty damn well in the Finnish league before this season, and we know MT had nothing to do with that.

          • Cape Breton says:

            A kick in the behind can do wonders for some and nothing for others. Perhaps, just perhaps, MT’s shoe woke Eller up from his snooze and helped him see the light.

    • Phil C says:

      As Bob McKenzie said last night, Eller is blossoming before our eyes.

      Pretty nifty pass from Galchenyuk on the Armstrong goal as well. He always knows where his line mates are.

    • Steeltown Hab says:

      Funny thing is you could see this all along, imagine the impact he would have between Pacioretty Gallagher. Reminds me of Mikko Koivu.


      Lars, PK, Galchenyuk, Pac, Emelin – @J_Perez22

    • Ozmodiar says:

      “Eller will be is a terrific, 3 zone, top 6 center in this league!!”

      fixed! 😉


  53. HabinBurlington says:

    Listening to PK talk about the penalty call was very re-assuring. I am not even so sure MT will have to say much or anything. PK already knows what he needs to do.

  54. MrNax says:

    Okay, I get that Diaz is good on the PP. Not great, but good. But if people think that he is an “answer”, they’re wrong. He is porous defensively. He is small and soft; the latter being the main concern. I’d rather PK have more of markov’s ice than Diaz. By a long shot.

    • commandant says:

      Porous defensively? Did you watch Diaz this season?

      Go Habs Go!
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      • HardHabits says:

        C’mon people. Admit it. Price is mediocre. Diaz is soft. Markov is old. Subban is careless. Gorges isn’t intimidating. Gionta, Gallagher and DD are too small. Prust isn’t a heavy-weight. Tinordi is inexperienced. The Habs don’t have a true bona fide #1 centre.

        This isn’t a play-off team. Unless the Habs trade away valuable assets for a rental they are going nowhere. Better to pack it in now while we still have a chance at a high draft pick.

        • Dunboyne Mike says:

          Keep going. I suggest Vincent Lecav. Plan the parade.

        • D Man says:

          Love it, Hard Habits. We must make a trade or we’re dead in the water.

          You can’t be both a Habs and a Leafs fan

        • dsturge10 says:

          Correct me if I am wrong but this team has gone 13-1-4 in its last 18 games. It would be quite hard for them to miss the playoffs at this point in the shortened season. With the depth this team has and if they can stay free of major injury, this team can go deep into the playoffs because for the first time in many years the players have secure, confident upper management and they are being coached. The Habs will not win every game. I thought they showed good character in battling back in the 2nd & 3rd periods last night. If PK had of made that hit and changed the momentum of the game, everybody would be demanding he win the Norris trophy today. Cheer up! Go Habs Go!

        • Cal says:

          My morning smile. Thanks, HH. 🙂

        • MrNax says:


          That’s funny, I don’t remember suggesting any trades. Nor do I remember tearing a strip off of the team. Oh wait… that’s because I didn’t! All I did was suggest that the team doesn’t improve that much (if at all) with the return of Diaz. For the record, I think the habs have a great team. Keep your own insecurities to yourself instead of projecting them on me… Thanks bud!

  55. Captain aHab says:

    PK will learn…I would rather he get that out of his system now than in the playoffs.

    On another note, why is there this impression that coaches will be able to review penalties? I doubt the league will allow that considering how bad its refs are.

    Me skull and crossbones arn’t the only thing I plan on raisin’ tonight.

  56. Cape Breton says:

    Very disappointed in P.K . Why in the name of Larry Robinson did he try to nail some no name dude into never ever land at that particular crucial point of the game? Sure, it probably wasn’t a high sticking penalty, but my oh my, what a brain dead attempt to knock a guy into concussionville.

    • Marc10 says:

      Low percentage play at the wrong time… He’ll learn. Let’s tone down the drama.

      • Cape Breton says:

        What drama? The fact is, a brain dead play by our fine young stud caused the Canadiens a game. He was looking to hog the limelight and it backfired. Yes, he will certainly learn, the hard way.

        • Dunboyne Mike says:

          First period and a half cost us the game.

          • Cape Breton says:

            At the time of PK’s penalty we were on a roll with lots of momentum. Sure it was a lousy 1st period, but we didn’t get a chance to keep mojo going in OT after a great 3rd.

          • Dunboyne Mike says:

            We should have had the Sabres buried by the end of two, not clawing our way back into it in the final 20 mins, exciting though it was.

            You’re right, of course, that PK made a bad play in OT. But you have to count up all the innumerable bad plays and non-plays and general somnambulance that resulted in PK’s moment having such significance.

    • wildwilly says:

      Watching the play, it was bad on a number of levels. Had PK actually connected, there’s a high likelihood one (or both) of them would have received a concussion. Two players connecting front-to-front at that speed often hurts the person giving the hit as much as the one receiving the hit. Pysyk was lucky enough to sidestep PK, making Subban have to shift his weight to restore his balance, which made his stick go up.

      I agree it was a reckless attempt that put him out of position, probably still should have been a penality of some sort, and completely unnecessary… Especially in overtime.

  57. HabinBurlington says:

    Well a full fledged praire flat effort in the 1st period which dragged into the 2nd like driving from Kenora to Saskatoon resulted in a 2-0 deficit. Along the way Enroth started to feel good and got into a zone where even when out of position pucks were hitting him. Not to mention the myriad of shots into Sabres shinpads and those other shots which appeared aimed at the end boards and glass.

    The team semed to play a periphery type game with not nearly enough around the net, including our power play. Then the little engine that could got the team going with his never say die effort in the dirtiest areas of the rink.

    In the end too little too late with a bad penalty taken by Max P. when all momentum was on our side, followed by a poor call on probably a poor decision by PK.

    I have never liked the loser point but found myself liking it last night. This team will be greatly aided by the return of Bourque and Prust as they seem to play their best hockey right in the other goalies kitchen which this team needs more of.

    In the meantime, the team got its wakeup call and should be ready for the Islanders and definitely ready for the Sabres again on Saturday.

    Onward and Upward boys, Go Habs Go!

  58. JF says:

    Why is it that the Habs are never ready to play teams near the bottom, even though most of their losses this season have come against non-playoff teams or a team like Toronto that is at this point only clinging to a playoff spot? The only really good teams to beat them have been Boston, Ottawa, and Pittsburgh in OT. They’ve lost twice to the Islanders and twice to Buffalo (albeit both times with the help of the officials). You would have thought the last game against the Islanders would have been enough of a lesson. Somehow the players and coaching staff have to find a way to be motivated for these games. Erasing the 2-goal deficit was heroic, but you aren’t always going to be able to come back and win it after a bad start. I’ll be seriously concerned if we see a repetition of this scenario on Thursday and Saturday.

    How about those Senators? Down 3-1 going into the third, they win it 5-3. Without their injuries, they might well be leading the Conference. Impressive, with a lineup made up of players most of us had barely heard of.

    • savethepuck says:

      Or another way to look at it is that the Habs are playing their best hockey against teams they will more likely face in the playoffs.

      “They don’t hang Conference Championship Banners from the rafters here”
      Carey Price

      • JF says:

        Yes, you can look at it that way. It would be nice if they would play their best hockey every game, but I guess no team is always at its best. Anyway, after that terrible first period, when I really thought it was all over, I’ll gladly take the loser point. Perhaps their failure to actually win the game will prevent their being complacent against the Islanders on Thursday.

        • HardHabits says:

          I hear you but…. 1 regulation loss since the 6-0 drubbing at the hands of the Leafs… which is exactly the same time that I changed to this current avatar.

          • Bill J says:

            Also the last game I saw with my dad at my side before he passed.

            I didn’t realize how well they had been playing since then… 🙂

            Edit: checked… 13-1-4

            Go Habs Go!

    • Chris says:

      Paul MacLean should be the Jack Adams Trophy winner this season based on what he has done with the Senators.

      Karlsson – 16 games
      Michalek – 15 games
      Spezza – 25 games
      Latendresse – 19 games
      Anderson – 15 games

      Take Price, Pacioretty, Plekanec, Cole/Ryder and Markov or Subban off the Habs for that many games and they are probably in deep, deep trouble.

      If he doesn’t win, it will be a travesty. The voters of that award are always swayed by great teams (Quenneville) or sudden turnarounds (Therrien, Boudreau), but MacLean has been the best coach in hockey this season.

      • HabinBurlington says:

        Perhaps Murray for GM of the year as well, his wise drafting and player moves resulted in Ottawa’s farm team winning the AHL championship two years ago. Now when the team has injuries they continue to bring guys up who know each other from that championship team.

        I mean no disrespect to Maclean, just that the substitutes are pretty good players. That trade for Kyle Turris last year is paying off huge dividends now as well.

    • Cal says:

      Even the dynasty Habs of the 70s found it difficult to get going against lesser light teams. That, and a more compact schedule make for some less than stellar games.
      Ottawa is the story this season and will be dangerous in the playoffs.

  59. Bash says:

    We needed a big hit by Subban or an end to end rush much earlier in the game to wake everyone up. Yes the call was missed but what the hell was he thinking? The “loose caboose” in overtime??
    Pacioretty seemed to lose sense of where he was and how close to the crease. Not the same brain fart.
    More troubling however, was how much we were pushed around all game.
    “If all you have is a hammer, everything looks like a nail.” (anon)

  60. smiler2729 says:

    Been on HI/O since the beginning and it still kills me to read these posters that are always throwing down their line combos and making up ludicrous trades… Adrian Aucoin lol

  61. Mike Bone says:

    Hey, wouldn’t Steve Ott be an upgrade on Armstrong or Moen on the Habs fourth line? We’ve been saying Prust needs some gritty help.

    • Dust says:

      buffalo gave up Roy to get Ott. They aren’t trading him unless we give up a lot. not worth it

    • savethepuck says:

      I don’t see Ott playing on Buffalo’s 4th line. I think he may be even playing on their 1st. Can’t compare apples to oranges.

      “They don’t hang Conference Championship Banners from the rafters here”
      Carey Price

    • I like Ott, he’s an Islander boy, and he’s exactly what Moen is supposed to be on our team. I had a quick look at both and it appears Ott has always had a little bit of talent where Moen looks like a badger his entire life.

      Anyway, win or lose, Armstrong and Moen have been the weak links on this team all season. At least Whitie skates his ass off every single shift and looks to hit someone.

      Up until Armstrong’s goal last night I was saying to myself that Eller and Galchenyuk look like they are playing short handed, give the puck to Armstrong and watch him turn it over.

      Happy we got the point because the Habs were bad last night.

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      • Dunboyne Mike says:

        On the other hand, a few days ago someone here did a very persuasive assessment of all the less obvious yet valuable work that Armstrong does. I would have been of your opinion, Sholi, until I read that and started trying to see it. Also, the surprising faith I’ve quickly developed in MT makes me reckon that the old favourites he’s brought in — and Bouillon for me requires far less persuasion — have vindicated his belief in them.

  62. smiler2729 says:

    “Both teams play on Thursday: Boston at Toronto, the Canadiens on Long Island. ”

    Buffalo plays Toronto…

    Jack Edwards is a clam.
    Gary Bettman is a bobblehead.

  63. Marc10 says:

    Well Enroth delivered for the going nowhere crew in Buffalo.

    At least we got the loser point and Armstrong scored a nice goal… Dare we dream Penguin Colby is thawing? That goal was nice!

    Can’t wait for Prust to come back. .. and Diaz.. and Bourque…

  64. Dunboyne Mike says:

    Possible biblical parallel here, with reference to throwing that first stone.

    Anyone who wants to throw it at either PK or the ref for the loss needs to wonder would they even FIND a stone to throw — because I would have thrown all available stones at almost the entire team throughout the first period and half of the second!

    Valiant third period, Gallagher brilliant, Colby great timing, etc. But the loss owes less to one play in OT than it does to the March 2013 Habs playing like the March 2012 Habs for a period and a half.

    (Who would blame a Sabres fan for relishing a sense of arrogance punished against the Division-leader that didn’t bother to turn up until the half-way point?)

    Hopefully an aberration. But if it happens again vs weak sides, wouldn’t you worry a little about the playoffs?

    Thought Price was better than good, and once we got going there were lots of good things. Among them, I kept seeing Bouillon make beautiful passes. Did he always do that?

  65. Bouleau noir says:

    Could have ended better, that said the soothing Jane works wonder, thanks Boone.

  66. Un Canadien errant says:

    Look, nobody said P.K. Subban was perfect. I’ve been laudatory in light of his recent improvements, both in terms of his production and on-ice behaviour, but we still expect him to have hiccups, that his trajectory will not be an unblemished arrow pointing ever upward. Some of the things that make P.K. who he is are high-risk, high-reward, you have to live with them, try to minimize them through constant coaching, and deal with them.

    We saw one of these in the overtime period, when P.K. went for a big, crunching, spectacular crowd-pleaser of a bodycheck in open ice on Mark Pysyk of the Sabres and whiffed. Now, that was bad enough, since the whiff would have led to a two-on-one, but it was compounded by the fact that the refs called the intrepid Mr. Subban for a high-sticking penalty. Now, the stick was held high, but it never made contact with Mr. Pysyk, so it was a blown call, but it’s cold comfort that the ensuing penalty was undeserved, and the goal scored by Steve Ott on the 4 on 3 was tainted.

    P.K. has been doing well this season in large part by not trying to do too much, and by not attempting the spectacular play instead of the solid, safe option, most of the time. He’s rushed the puck once in a while, but he seems to better recognize when to choose to do so, let’s say when the team is down a goal and time is winding down in the third. He’s gotten better at trusting his teammates, and they’re increasingly starting to trust him. So it was a little bit of a relapse for him to get out of position to try an open-ice check on an opposition rusher early in overtime. The benefit to the team was probably minimal even if he had connected solidly. We’re not going to beat him up for it, Coach Michel Therrien was asked about it by the Montréal press corps after the game and he expressed that he thought it was a poor play selection and that he’d deal with it, so it’s taken care of.

    While the Canadiens picked up a point, it’s disappointing for a few reasons that they didn’t win this game. They lost ground to the victorious Penguins, and failed to capitalize on a Bruins loss to the Jets. This was a game that based on the standings should have resulted in two points for the Habs. They were playing a team in turmoil, at home.

    It was also one of these games that the Canadiens have found a way to win this year. They have a never-say-die approach, and you had a sense in the third period as they stormed the ramparts that they would pull it off, that they wouldn’t fall in the trap of the trap game after all. When Colby Armstrong scored the tieing goal, you couldn’t help but smile at Michel Therrien’s crystal-ball-aided lineup divinations.

    With René Bourque closer to a return, and Brandon Prust next in line, the lineup will be solidified, and the hope is that disappointing results such as these will be turned into victories instead.



    • savethepuck says:

      Lost in a lot of the hoopla about a misguided penalty by PK ( even though the replay clearly showed his stick didn’t make contact ), is that in 23 games, PK has a grand total of 14 minutes in penalty minutes, or less than 1 minor penalty every 3 games. In the last 2 years, he has been a minor penalty machine, and that is something we all wanted him to correct. IMO, he has definitely improved that part of his game as much as the missed nets on the big slappers or the defensive errors. The last 20 games have been by far the best of his career, and certain fans insist on still cropping on him, or think the coaching staff is throwing him under the bus for pointing out his mistakes.
      He’s an incredible talent having a great season, he’s still learning his trade but having a great season. I have absolutely no worries about how he’s playing, or how he’s being coached.

      “They don’t hang Conference Championship Banners from the rafters here”
      Carey Price

  67. HabsTrueBlue says:

    If Subban deserves to be thrown under the bus by the coach and the fans for a hockey play mistake then so does Pacioretty. A penalty with 2.5 minutes left is not much better than a penalty in overtime. Bad coaching to call out Subban’s penalty and not Patches just because one penalty kill was successful and the other wasn’t.

    • Rad says:

      Subban’s penalty was much worse because it gave the Sabres a 4 on 3, which is vastly more dangerous than a 5 on 4. Also, I don’t think Therrien was calling out Subban as such, he was just answering a reporter’s question.

      • HabsTrueBlue says:

        That is wrong. It is much worse to have a penalty to kill with 2.5 regulation minutes left where if they score you probably lose the game and get 0 points versus a penalty in OT with a hard 4 on 3 kill but 1 point already banked?

  68. Habilis says:

    If the playoffs started today:

    Pens vs Rangers
    Jets vs Canes
    Bruins vs Sens


    Habs vs Leafs, 5k comments per game blog and everyone at the CBC has a stroke when the ratings come out.

    Do it, fate.

    Seriously though, pretty good opening round, right?

  69. Rad says:

    Is it clear now why Subban is not yet getting the big bucks? The kid doesn’t yet know how to throw a proper body check. Subban got lucky and caught Brad Marchand with his rear end once, a lifetime ago, and now the rear end hit seems to have become his signature move. Every time he trys to hit someone this way, he takes himself out of the play. With all the off-ice training he does in the Summer, you would think P.K. would take a few minutes to watch video on the fundamentals of delivering an effective body check. Hell, all he has to do is look across the ice to see how the Russian Tank lays out an opponent. Also to blame is the Montreal coaching staff, who should be tutoring Subban on this fundamental defensive skill. Undoubtedly Daigneault will be talking Subban’s ear off tomorrow. Let’s hope so.

    As for the wisdom of trying to go for a big hit like that in OT, that was strictly on P.K. Not too smart there, big guy.

  70. VancouverHab says:

    P.K. went for a lights-out legal hit on an opponent, the player dodges the check, Subban and his stick both miss the opponent….and Therrien is going to “[subtext of the quotation] make Subban a better person” ?


    This will end badly…you heard it here first.

    • savethepuck says:

      I would prefer to think PK has a lot thicker skin than some posters on here give him credit for. He knows the attempted hit was a mistake, he also knows he’s going to have to answer for it ( just listen to his post game interview ). There is no use over analyzing this situation.

      “They don’t hang Conference Championship Banners from the rafters here”
      Carey Price

    • Un Canadien errant says:

      Bollocks. First? You and a hundred Chicken Littles on here all predict the sky is falling, constantly, every day, for a thousand reasons.

      Lars Eller is being ruined by having to earn his icetime.

      P.K. is irreparably aggrieved by he and his agent being faced by a tough negotiator as his GM, and by being coached.

      Alex Galchenyuk is effectively castrated by being forced to play left-wing, instead of a centreman. How will he ever get his mojo?

      Try to keep some sense of proportion, I’ve told you a hundred million billion times already.

      • HardHabits says:

        Yes. Keep things in perspective. How can so many people exaggerate so?

        When Price lets in a stinker he’s the first to admit it. Fortunately he doesn’t read the comments of his most devoted worshippers.

        Same for PK. He knew his move was ill advised. A child could see that.

    • Marc10 says:

      Nothing will come of it.

      PK will be told it’s a bad idea to go for broke in a 2-2 game near the end of the game. He’ll adjust and we won’t see that type of low percentage play from him in critical situations.

      It’s called coaching… Repeat, repeat, repeat… Eventually they learn.

  71. durocher says:

    Exciting third period as the Habs roared back to tie up the game and send it to OT. Too bad about the OT loss, but you have to love a team that doesn’t quit and that is getting contributions from various sources. Army is pulling his weight, and Gally73 is proving he belongs. The one player I am most disappointed in is Moen, who has been invisible for too many games. I would trade him to NYR for Brian Boyle (Prust’s buddy, and a big body who can hit); I’d also trade Rene Bourque when he returns to Columbus for Adrian Aucoin (a veteran RH defenseman with some size) and prospect David Savard (a RH offensive homeboy defenseman with good size). True, Bourque has played well with Pleks and Gio, but we can’t demote Eller (one of our best players tonight) and Gally; and Prust belongs on the top 9 as well. So we don’t have room.

    This season:


    Next season:
    ?? (Clowe?)-Eller-Prust


  72. Hockey Bob says:

    Well at least the Bruins lost and Laffs keep sliding down even when they don’t play;) Laffs playoff dream will be a pipe dream by end of the month.

    • savethepuck says:

      Agreed, but still hope they beat the Bruins in regulation Thursday night. Their downward late season spiral can continue after that.

      “They don’t hang Conference Championship Banners from the rafters here”
      Carey Price

    • FANHABULOUS says:

      and eggs…
      “You will not regret picking me” – PK Subban.

      • Chuck says:

        What a ham…

        Being a Hab fan is like buying real estate: only over the long-haul will you appreciate the true value of your investment.

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