A good one gets away

And maybe a great one.

Guy Boucher has succeeded at every level of his coaching career, in the Q and, most recently, with the Bulldogs.

He has three university degrees, has studied psychology and is a master motivator and tactician who – in the phrase frequently used to describe him – “thinks outside the box.”

After Boucher turned down the Columbus offer, some hoped for the Bob McKenzie scenario: Bouchewr becomes an assistant or “associate” coach with the Canadiens, learning the ropes at the NHL level for a year before succeeding Jacques Martin, who would be moved upstairs.

Perhaps the Canadiens made that pitch.

But Steve Yzerman made a better one.

Boucher is going to a good situation in Tampa Bay. The Lighning have established stars in Vincent Lecavalier (who’ll be number one on the new coach’s psychological rehab list), Martin St. Louis and Ryan Malone.

Steven Stamkos had a breakout season in 2009-’10. Victor Hedman is considered a can’t miss star on the back end.

Yzerman learned his management chops from Detroit GM Ken Holland, who’s as close to a latter-day Sam Pollock as there is in the league. Stevie Y has the full support of Jeff Vinik, TB’s new owner (succeeding the two clowns); and Boucher will have the full support of Yzerman.

Added bonus: Boucher’s wife and young children move to a city that’s probably more liveable than Hamilton.

If Boucher leads the Lightning up the Eastern Conference standings, Canadiens fans will wonder what might have been.

What’s the point?

Guy Boucher, who doesn’t make rash decisions, thought it over and decided he was ready to become a head coach.

The Canadiens have a coach.

Jacques Martin has three years left on a rich contract that includes a hefty penalty clause if he’s sacked.

Martin just coached the Canadiens to the Eastern Conference finals.

So what could Pierre Gauthier do?

Fire Martin because Boucher is in a hurry?

That wasn’t going to happen.

So in the NHL’s shallow pool of French-speaking coaches, a potential superstar swims south.

 

64 Comments

  1. bwoar says:

     

    You’re right, my bad, JM uses the 1-2-2.  Obvious.  So you aren’t a fan of the trap, me either.  But it’s hardly a dangerous mirage that that system beat last year’s champs and this year’s “best” team in 7 games.  It’s oh-so-easy to say “Halak did it all himself” but it’s also disingenuous.  Martin didn’t outcoach 2 guys??  How about getting the matchups we wanted to shutdown the galaxy of stars on those teams?  Why were the opposing coaches unable to get their stars going?  Just Halak and Gill doing it?  Is it that hard to credit a wise veteran coach?  I don’t like him much either, but sheesh, he had to have done something right.  Again, you want proof, it’s spelled W-I-N-N-I-N-G.  And it doesn’t happen as a mere fluke 2 series in a row.

    The system is not to blame for lack of goalscoring.  A passive 1-2-2 is supposed to cause turnovers and use speed to make a team pay for mistakes; the CH has 2, count ‘em, 2 guys who can be counted on to score and once Philly shut them down, it was all over.  No system in the world will overcome a lack of finish.

    I think you’re the one driving your own image of the team, that is, one that is in the ground.  And you do it over losing an AHL coach – don’t you think there’s room to say, “let’s see what comes around this summer” before pronouncing doom and gloom and that we won’t see playoff hockey for a long time?

    The rough part is your collection of young players that are ‘ruined’, each of whom is a B-C-D-list hockey player for whom overzealous fans have constructed these amazing futures.  So since they aren’t blossoming, it’s the coach’s fault (he who has been around for 1 year only.)  The only guy in there who hasn’t hit his potential (or has he?) is Pacioretty, who was Pacio-not-ready but called up too soon due to injury.  Don’t even start blaming Martin for Latendresse, in the end he screwed his way out of town and players with his attitude are most unwelcome.

    I don’t mean this with any rancor MathMan, it’s just VERY early for the Habs world to be imploding when we just had a great playoff run, and we finally have a core of guys who know leadership is more than bringing the boys out to Copacabana to soak it up after a loss.

     

  2. Exit716 says:

    If Yzerman was such a hockey genuis why did Detroit let him walk?

     

  3. HardHabits says:

    5X STUPID

  4. Nina76 says:

    What else is new with the Habs……………..WE LOST AGAIN!!!!!!  nothing much to look forward to next year still the same old CRAP.

  5. HardHabits says:

    Nice. A quint!!!

  6. HardHabits says:

    The whole thing is a publicity stunt.

    Too many posters here were talking about the Flyers/Hawks series and it got the Habs brass nervous so they decided to put a monkey wrench in the HIO posts by putting the focus back on the Habs.

    Boivin: Tabarnac Pierre, tout le monde chez HHabsHHinsideHHout parle de la finale de la Coupe Stanley.

    Gauthier: Maudit, qu’est-ce qu’on fait?

    Martin: C’est evident! Laissez des autre equipes parler a Guy Boucher comme entraineur chef. Tout le monde vas parler de ca en place.

  7. HardHabits says:

    I can’t wait until Patrick Roy is GM.

  8. howtathor says:

    I couldn’t agree with you more. How many young players like O’byrne, S.Kostitsyn (who I still think is a good player, just lacking a coach who can communicate ie Guy Boucher), Maxwell. I feel sorry for the kids down on the farm cause they’ll never get a fair chance. I wonder how long it will take for Martin to kill Subban’s creativity and spirit? I could see it happening from game to game until PK was only a shell of his former self. 

    The CH just made the biggest mistake maybe in their history.

  9. Shublips says:

    Well said, Mike.  Whatchu gonna do?

    Sucks to lose Boucher but the Habs have three more years on Martin’s contract and after the playoff run the Habs went on, there was no way that he was going to be moved out.

    Great move by Tampa and Yzerman seems to be building a winner up there.  I predict that Boucher will get Lecavalier back to the 90+ point level pretty quickly.
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  10. JD_ says:

    TB has for years suffered the biggest TalentGap in the NHL, the difference between the talent on paper and actual position in the standings.

    Two dilettante fool owners and a GM who hires a buffoon sports personality – did anyone, anyone, actually believe Melrose was still a relevant coach? – and then quickly replaces him with a morally bankrupt, convicted felon, still fresh off his guilty plea.

    It always starts upstairs. Stevie Y and Boucher are going to make a difference. Yeah, they’re both inexperienced at this level and, although one might question the degree to which this team can improve, improve it will. It is almost inevitable.

    My hat’s off to Jeff Vinik for cleaning up one of the league’s more embarrassing messes, even if it came at Hamilton’s expense. If there’s one thing you can say about successful fund managers is that they are typically bright as hell and have good instincts and, in this case, I think it shows.

  11. doug19 says:

    ANOTHER FRENCH CANADIAN BAILS ON QUEBEC AND CANADA. they SURE DO SUCK!

  12. doug19 says:

    ANOTHER FRENCH CANADIAN BAILS ON QUEBEC AND CANADA. they SURE DO SUCK!

  13. doug19 says:

    ANOTHER FRENCH CANADIAN BAILS ON QUBEC AND CANADA. they SURE DO SUCK!

  14. doug19 says:

    ANOTHER FRENCH CANADIAN BAILS ON QUEBEC AND CANADA. they SURE DO SUCK!

  15. doug19 says:

    ANOTHER FRENCH CANADIAN BAILS ON QUEBEC AND CANADA. they SURE DO SUCK!

  16. mrhabby says:

    i give martin credit for adding some structure , discipline and accountability that seemed to be lacking over the last couple of years. not very innovative and very staid in approach and not much of a out of the box thinker like GB…i knda wish we had that.

    the games still have to be to be played though.

  17. amvanimere says:

    Calm down, everyone. He had a great run with a pretty good AHL team. It’s unfortunate that we lose him, but there was no way around that, realistically at least. Let him learn the NHL chops somewhere, and when the time comes, if he turns out to be a great coach I’m sure he’ll have no problem letting his contract run out in Tampa to come back to Montreal (after all, last time I checked his name wasn’t “Lecavalier”). The Wings have lost guys like Yzerman and McLellan; it’s the nature of the beast, move on…

  18. SlovakHab says:

    Rue Frontenac reports that he might take some of the Hamilton coaching staff with him. Ridiculous. Since when did  the NHL become a bush league with absolutely no protection of staff whatsoever?

    I am not disappointed the Canadiens lose him at all. He is not needed yet, we have had enough of unexperienced, young coaches (see: Carbonneau, Guy)

    I am disappointed the Bulldogs lose him. I think we lose a lot from having him develop our young players. Development is at least as important as drafting. Well there we go.

    PS. ***** Tampa Bay Lightning

  19. smiler2729 says:

    Yeah kinda goofy eh

  20. Mr. Biter says:

    Well the Tampa deal came out out of no where didn’t it? Good luck to GB, but for everyone out there predicting a rise by Tampa to 1st. place in one year thanks to GB’s coaching ability is really stretching it. I may be wrong and if anyone knows the answer please post back the last team to go from not being in the playoffs to first place in one year with a new coach (rookie NHL coach to make it harder)? I cannot think of any. 

  21. The Professor says:

    If you followed American Football, you’d know that they protect both their coaching and management staff. Teams have to give permission for other organisations to speak to their staff which is still under contract, and often do so by figuring out compensation ahead of time if the member of staff in question is poached.

  22. yathehabsrule says:

    ESPN reports the Boucher/Tampa deal still needs some ironing out.

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  23. Duracell3 says:

    Actually, Mopntreal could stop this to my understanding, the guy is under contract for multiple years. However it is the policy of most NHL teams not to get in the way of vertical movement of staff. If a team did, it might be harder to attract new staff.

  24. MathMan says:

    I’ll take the guy who hasn’t proven anything over the guy who’s proven his obsolescence any day.

    Hard to imagine Boucher could do worse than this year’s Martin as a NHL head coach. Only saving grace is that it’s kind of hard imagining next year’s Martin being more awful than this year’s version, too.

  25. yathehabsrule says:

    “Yzerman learned his management chops from Detroit GM Ken Holland,”

    True, but he learned a ton more from Wings Sr. VP Jim Devellano, who drafted him and put together the team (that included Holland) to find the players to build around him.
    Jimmy D was also the head scout that built the Islanders dynasty, and also happens to live half the year in Tampa.

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  26. longtimehabsfan says:

    It’s going to suck watching him come into the Bell Centre next year with Tampa.

  27. mrhabby says:

    lets remember GB has no NHL experience. coaching at this level and coaching at the AHL is different…millionaires and wanna be millionaires…will see how it all shakes down..scarey though.

  28. MathMan says:

    If Boucher-coached Tampa doesn’t finish comfortably ahead of Martin-coached Montreal, I’ll be pretty surprised.

  29. MathMan says:

    Ironic, isn’t it, that Halak’s brilliance might turn out to be the worst thing to happen the Habs in a decade?

    He carries Martin’s sorry ass to the playoffs, then carries him to the ECF and buys him an entirely undeserved immunity. A gong show of a coach who shouldn’t even have been retained under the playoffs — he was that awful — is kept, and the Habs let the best coach of their organization go to keep arguably the worst one they’ve had in a decade.

    Now the Habs are going to start next season with Martin, and if last season is any indication, it will be a continuing disaster. Martin will continue to wreck the team’s young players and drive the Habs into the ground. Hopefully, the Habs brass soon eliminates the problem, but what then? They’ll be in the market for a coach a few months to a year too late anyway.

    The Habs’ #1 area of need last season was for a coach with an understanding of modern hockey and strong development skills. That is still their biggest need. Martin is pretty much the opposite of that guy.

    Firing Martin to make room for Boucher might not be something that is
    done… but maybe it needed to be done regardless. From a hockey standpoint, it really should’ve been a no-brainer. We shouldn’t let a fluke playoff run blind us to how badly the team, and most especially the coach, has performed.

    I just hope that Gauthier quickly realizes and addresses the problem, and doesn’t start wrecking the team with panic roster moves to try to save his buddy. Given that the two are said to be tight, I’m not hopeful. It could turn out to be a very painful next 2-3 years for Habs fans, and 5-6 years just to recover from the mess.

    Cherish this season’s playoff run; there’s a very good chance there isn’t going to be any playoff hockey at the Bell Centre for a while.

  30. B says:

    I would like to hear more about the “hefty penalty clause” in Martin’s contract. That’s a new one for me. Does it mean that the Habs would have to pay him a huge bonus on top of the remainder of his contract should they see fit to replace him as head coach before his contract runs out? Any one have an idea on what kind of money that would be? Inquiring minds want to know.

  31. mrhabby says:

    wow over 600 posts all because a minor league coach leaves the family..

  32. mrhabby says:

     i guess iam a little jealous of what has happened. its a good move for boucher and the lightning since they seem to be putting together a good template for a winning team with some  excellent young players , some vets and of course the great steve y. they are a team on the rise for sure. its weird  as this is what i really wanted to happen with the habs and was hoping the molsons would reach out to steve y when gainey was stepping down and also keep a young,  innovative, agressive coach in the organization.

    this means boucher will not be with the habs anytime soon but you never know. the life of a bench boss is around 3-4 years depending how he advances the team etc,etc. thats when martin contract expries.

    that being said, the habs have to concentrate on the draft and improve from last year. its already an interesting start to the summer.

    ps..lets not get carried away…tampa bay have a long way to go before they are even close to respect

  33. Bryan says:

    The new CBA prohibits compensation for signing coaches.

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  34. Tighthead says:

    A coach is usually better on his second go round than the first.  We can likely get him in 3-4 years.

  35. SlovakHab says:

    Of course I follow football. However, I don’t want to get used to it in the NHL, where teams that are dead last are not demoted to a lower league. Where you get rewarded by top talent when you finish last. Or where you can’t just scoop good players for money and where the rich teams support the poor ones by revenue sharing.

    Nope.

    A team that doesn’t want to end up last to draft high needs to build well from within. Draft well and consequently develop it in the AHL, under an excellent coach and motivator. And we are losing one right now, to a team that has been rewarded several times for their terrible season.

    I simply don’t get this NHL logic.

  36. MathMan says:

    “AGAIN, the team COULDN’T SCORE. “

    Of course nobody could score. The system was not generating any offense in the form of scoring chances. The Habs spent the majority of the games in the defensive zone watching the other team bomb their goalie and trying not to get pasted TOO much; you’re not gonna score if you never venture in the offensive zone. It takes special talent to score in such conditions, which is why the bottom six crapped out offensively and only Cammy, Gionta, and Pleks could get many goals at evens.

    “The left
    wing lock is not a weak 5-on-5 system.”

    Martin doesn’t practice the left wing lock. That implies defending in the neutral zone and it’s not what the Habs do; they spend their time making a wall around the slot in the defensive zone.

    “Name a player who was any
    good who left the org?  Latendresse?  He was screwed the second he
    skipped AHL time.  He was named the best player on a cruddy team.  Nice.”

    Minnesota was all of one win behind Montreal. Latendresse was a guy that Montreal could have used.

    “So
    what – the loss of D’Agostini is keeping you up at night?  None of the
    coaches we had have been able to reach AKost or SKost (though I think
    Martin is finally getting through to the elder)”
    AKost was better under Carbo than Martin. So was SKost for that matter. Lats too. There’s also the likes of Pacioretty, Chipchura, etc. who got shipped out to Hamilton or elsewhere, and I’ll point out that Lapierre actually accomplishing something in the playoffs hardly makes up for him sucking all season long.

    “Can you elaborate on the track record of ruining
    young talent that Martin has built in your mind in one season?”

    Out of the team’s young players, Lats, Chipchura, and d’Agostini were shipped out; Pacioretty cratered and was sent to Hamilton; O’Byrne was basically used as reserves; Sergei Kostitsyn was benched for life. Pouliot had his hot streak, but reverted to the player he is (a borderline NHLer).

    Can you name two young skaters who were actually successful under Martin? I say two, because thanks to Martin’s bizarre love for Pyatt, there was one (even though poor Tom was thrown to the fire and sent into assignments he clearly wasn’t able to handle). You can point to Subban in the playoffs; given the track record and the visible conflict of styles here, it would not suprise me to see him finish next season in Hamilton.

    “JM
    outcoached both Bylsma and Boudreau, the entire hockey world knows it,
    it’s as obvious as the sun and the stars.”

    No it’s not. It is, in fact, clearly false… or if JM did outcoach these guys, I would be interested in seeing how one was supposed to tell given how thoroughly the Habs got dominated everywhere but the crease.

    “You want to blame the
    team’s poor showing (which truthfully wasn’t poor by any means) on the
    coach?”
    You focus to much on fluke wins and not enough on the fact that the team was playing poorly all season long. If the Habs play the next regular season like they did the playoffs, they will have their worst season in a long while. This is a lousy hockey club with good players, but playing lousy and who managed to scrape by because of unsustainably good goaltending.
    The key word is ‘unsustainable’.
    “The problem here is that
    you don’t use WINNING as a bar for success.”
    Winning by fluke and goaltending is not a good predictor of future success. From what I’ve seen, there is nothing to believe that the Habs team is a fundamentally sound club that can win regularly. It’s built on goaltending and wind. And with the players it has, it doesn’t need to be.
    I define success for a coach as getting the team to play well, which leads to long-term winning. The occasional fluke Cinderella run is not success. It’s a dangerous mirage.
    “So no roster moves are
    going to improve the team under JM?  Why not tune out for the next 3
    years, and save us the histrionics? “
    I care for the Habs; that’s why I hate to see them driven into the ground like that.
  37. HardHabits says:

    You think I don’t now that. One can still dream.

  38. likehoy says:

    in all professional sports, there is no protection for anyone but the players. everyone else is subject to be moved at a moment’s notice. if you follow soccer, you’d be used to it by now.

    - What if Jaro Halak’s hand was indeed shaking? What if you took the CHOKE out of Ovechkin? — History Will Be Made

  39. Chris says:

    If he had been signed mid-season, the standard practice is to compensate the other franchise.  Montreal traded a draft pick (3rd round, I believe) to Edmonton when they replaced Michel Therrien with Claude Julien in 2003.

    When a coach is signed by another team in the off-season, the NHL-wide convention is to not stand in the way of assistant coaches or minor league coaches being offered promotions with other teams.  So it would be surprising if any compensation was coming the other way.

  40. likehoy says:

    if guy boucher was such a hockey genius, why did Montreal let him walk?

    - What if Jaro Halak’s hand was indeed shaking? What if you took the CHOKE out of Ovechkin? — History Will Be Made

  41. bwoar says:

    AGAIN, the team COULDN’T SCORE.  Not until Moore arrived did we have a third line worth icing.  Our 2 best goal scorers had lengthy injuries.  Why is this so quickly forgotten?

    The left wing lock is not a weak 5-on-5 system.

    Name a player who was any good who left the org?  Latendresse?  He was screwed the second he skipped AHL time.  He was named the best player on a cruddy team.  Nice.

    Pleks: had a career year

    Halak: progressed quite nicely.

    Lapierre: again, improved in the playoffs

    Pyatt: OK so you did notice he got better.

    Pouliot: no surprise there.  But he played hurt as well.

    O’Byrne: the guy is not a reliable D-man yet.  He may never be, his hockey sense is very poor.  I wish people would face up to that.

    So what – the loss of D’Agostini is keeping you up at night?  None of the coaches we had have been able to reach AKost or SKost (though I think Martin is finally getting through to the elder)

    It is in the playoffs where young players take biggest leaps, and we saw that to a degree this year.  Can you elaborate on the track record of ruining young talent that Martin has built in your mind in one season?

    JM outcoached both Bylsma and Boudreau, the entire hockey world knows it, it’s as obvious as the sun and the stars.

    and Gomez: had a great second half and was effective all playoffs.  The bottom six: carrying some garbage players at the start of the year (D’Ags, S Kost, Laraque) got better once we took out the trash.

    You want to blame the team’s poor showing (which truthfully wasn’t poor by any means) on the coach?  What a joke.  How many CF’s did those “better” coaches make (each of whom had great goaltending) ??

    The problem here is that you don’t use WINNING as a bar for success.  So no roster moves are going to improve the team under JM?  Why not tune out for the next 3 years, and save us the histrionics? 

  42. Y says:

    We’re losing coaches and scouts left, right, and, centre

     

    Someone stop the bleeding

  43. rogieshan says:

    Not sure if this has already been answered, but do the Habs receive some unwritten form of compensation from Tampa for Boucher?

  44. bwoar says:

    I couldn’t disagree with you more (without doing it in 2 languages.)

    Bat-stuff insanity:

    1. “he Habs let the best coach of their organization go to keep arguably the worst one they’ve had in a decade.”

    ugh.  JM is better than Carbo.  Better than Therrien by a mile.  Better than Julien by a lot.

    2. “if last season is any indication, it will be a continuing disaster.”

    The only disaster last season was Andrei Markov’s injury.  And we still made the playoffs and rode hot ‘tending to the ECF.

    3. “We shouldn’t let a fluke playoff run blind us to how badly the team, and most especially the coach, has performed.”

    If you think the coach is the weakest link on the team, there’s no helping you.  JM isn’t exactly a big RH centre who scores goals.

    4. “ there’s a very good chance there isn’t going to be any playoff hockey at the Bell Centre for a while.”

    Complete rubbish.

    Boucher’s departure is unfortunate but not at all the end of the world.  You fans who are calling this move suicide are overreacting.  Probably have a trunkful of pics of ex-girlfriends you keep hidden from your wives, wondering what might’ve been.

    JM’s dithering with calling timeouts aside, and his reluctance to play O’Byrne aside, he’s a good coach who outcoached 2 inexperienced ones in successive series.

    Boucher is a green rookie.  Your kind would’ve found a way to hate him after consecutive losses – because that’s what coaching in Montreal is all about.  Being hated by millions of people who are sure THE OTHER GUY is always better.

  45. MathMan says:
    “JM is better than Carbo.  Better
    than Therrien by a mile.  Better than Julien by a lot.”
    If this is true, it would be nice for it to show on the ice at some point. Right now, he’s taken a team of solid 5-on-5 players and made them one of the worst 5-on-5 teams in the NHL — hardly a fantastic accomplishment. In fact, it’s been more of a disaster. Carbo made a comparable 5-on-5 team with a worse roster.
    “The
    only disaster last season was Andrei Markov’s injury.  And we still made
    the playoffs and rode hot ‘tending to the ECF.”
    Yes, but coaching had nothing to do with it — Martin’s ineffective system made it so that the team absolutely required unsustainable goaltending to win. Halak carried this team, and they had little else going for them.
    “If you think the coach is
    the weakest link on the team, there’s no helping you.  JM isn’t exactly a
    big RH centre who scores goals.”
    The weak 5-on-5 system is the biggest problem this team faces. The second biggest is player development at the NHL level — notice how Tom Pyatt is the only young player that didn’t spiral off badly in Martin’s hands, how practically all of them were shipped to Hamilton or other organizations? Do we really want to take the risk of putting Subban into his hand given that track record
    If the Habs had a big RH centre who scores goals, he’d be ineffectual in Martin’s system, just like he slashed Gomez’s effectiveness as a puck possession player, just like the bottom six were rendered completely ineffective. It’s not the team’s biggest need; frankly at this point roster changes are rather moot for the Habs.
    “JM’s dithering with calling timeouts aside, and his
    reluctance to play O’Byrne aside, he’s a good coach who outcoached 2
    inexperienced ones in successive series.”
    JM has outcoached nobody. His team was staggeringly and comprehensively outplayed for 13 of the first 14 playoff games. The only reasons it won those series was luck and Halak playing on his head. The amount by which the Canadiens was dominated was staggering.

    “Boucher is a green
    rookie.”

    I’ll take the rookie who hasn’t proven anything over the veteran who has proven his obsolescence any day.

  46. Xtrahabsfan says:

    If Boucher don’t want to be with the GREATEST HOCKEY CLUB in the World With the greatest Fans in the World then  he can GO SCREW HIMSELF,PERIOD!

  47. G-Man says:

    The Biggest mistake (maybe) in their history? Sorry, Houle/Tremblay trumps this by a mile. Habs just missed going to the Cup final and suddenly everyone in management sucks? Unreal.

  48. EricInStL says:

    Holland wasn’t ready to go, and also if you’re going to start somewhere might as well be with low expectations at first. If you do better all the credit goes to you. Also Detroit is on the decline in the West…. Tampa Bay has more upside.

  49. G-Man says:

    For the new Nordiques, right? He’ll never be GM in Montreal.

  50. SlovakHab says:

    nope. It would need to be an even number of negatives.

  51. EricInStL says:

    Will be interesting to see which players Boucher will try to get from Hamilton…..

     

  52. SlovakHab says:

    I think the chances of Boucher being successful NHL coach or not, are pretty even. So far, he has coached NHL hopefuls playing against other hopefuls. Mostly young, talented players, or older players with limited talent that only takes them this far. Now he’ll coach players who earn millions of bucks and have already achieved some success, even won Stanley Cup. Players that are almost as old as him. And do you think there might be a bit more pressure in NHL than in Hamilton?

    I have enjoyed watching the Bulldogs under GB. I am disappointed to see him leave. The NHL should do something so the teams can protect their coach assets.

    However, if he’s good, he might one day coach the Habs. Or he might not become a top NHL coach. Before we see what happens in the next few years, I am not ready to dump on Martin under whom we had a good season, or Gauthier, who got the GM position only recently.

  53. Mr.Hazard says:

    Stevie Y knows what he’s doing, and that makes me even more sad to lose Boucher. Oh well, expect TB to be going the Chicago route (up).

    “We didn’t give up and we are not giving up.” – Jaroslav Halak

  54. Odie Cleghorn says:

    Didn’t Scotty Bowman follow a similar path in his career? And, furthermore, what AHLer amongst us wouldn’t jump at the opportunity to move on up?

    Finally, Tampa has the perfect mix of youth,veterans, skill sets and,most importantly, realistic and achievable expectations, from its ownership, management, and fan base for a rookie coach to develop his “system”.

    Good luck Guy Boucher – will ye no come back again?

  55. zak says:

    I wonder how many bulldogs will end up in Tampa.

  56. benjo says:

    Mike, do the Habs get some form of compensation for the loss of Boucher and his coaches? My understanding is that he was under contract for another two years.

  57. The Big O says:

    Maybe its a good thing that a francophone coach gets his first nhl gig outside of montreal, we’ve trained enough of them already.  Martin has 3 yrs left here, Boucher signed a 3 yr deal in T-bay…so who knows…  Good luck to him though.

  58. avatar_58 says:

    “Added bonus: Boucher’s wife and young children move to a city that’s probably more liveable than Hamilton.”

    HEY

    Oh wait Tampa is in Florida right? Nevermind.

  59. JF says:

    The Habs must find a way to protect their talent.  We’ve just lost our entire Hamilton coaching staff, and it seems likely we’re about to lose Kirk Muller as well.  If these guys were under contract to us, there ought at least to be some form of compensation.  I just hope that when Boucher’s contract in Tampa is up, we’ll find a way to get him back.

  60. Chris says:

    We can get the compensation back that the Canadiens were forced to pay the Panthers when they hired the under-contract Jacques Martin.  :)

    Sometimes teams do agree to compensation, if the original team is loathe to part with the outgoing coach/GM.  Montreal traded a draft pick to Edmonton after they signed Julien mid-season, as Julien was under contract to the Oilers to coach the Bulldogs.

    But summer hirings usually don’t carry any compensation, as the unwritten rule is that NHL teams don’t stand in the way of their personnel climbing the ladder.

  61. OldGrover says:

    Enh.  I’m not that concerned.  Another great francophone coach in the NHL is a good thing for the Habs – it gives us another option post-Martin (who won at least some of the coaching battles this playoffs – being the 3rd last team standing is a damn good accomplishment in this age of parity, whatever we’d like as far as Montreal dynasties)

    What’s the average lifespan of a coach in the NHL?  3 years tops?  Coincidentally, that’s when we’ll be done with Martin…

  62. _Habsoloutly_ says:

    It really is amazing how many chicken littles there are here on H I/O running around yelling,  “the sky is falling,  the sky is falling!!!”.

  63. HardHabits says:

    More like Habsty Dumpsty having a great fall.

  64. HabsFanNorway says:

    Too bad, but you never know what will happen in the future. If Guy dreams about the Habs he will come back. Good luck Guy!

     

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